1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: When Magic Raft begin on the Fox League. Oh my man, 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: every game live and add three to believe it. 3 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Look at that flood whoashcheck. 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: Tread check shirt folks. 5 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: Welcome to an old three sixty years a league from 6 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: every angle watch you buy NIV Joining me again James Graham, 7 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 3: Gordon Tallas and Buzz Rothfield Boys. We've got a big 8 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: show coming up. We've got a big weekend to magic 9 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: round every game. The only place you can see it 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: is right here, Live and ad break Free. 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: Must be looking forward to this weekend, guys. 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah really unbread headlined by the Sharks be the Roosters 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon. I think for me the Major Crown 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: I was part of the initial Magic ground over in 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: England and I absolutely love it. It's a fantastic occasion 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: for the fan. Obviously lots of groups will go up 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: there and celebrate, but for me, it's a great opportunity 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: for any fan that attends the game to single out 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: a player and watch exactly what they do. As fans, 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: we're naturally attracted to the ball and we bore watch 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: and we see where the players. But anyone that's going 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: on there that wants to be a student of the 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: game that's got aspirations to play in our game. Any 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: coaches just go and watch an individual player and see 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: what it takes to play an individual position. 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 4: Well in Queensland, now we've got four teams, but they 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: have every team up in queens and I know that 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: we look forward to it every year. They're starting to 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 4: build up around sun Cup Stadium already, the trucks are arriving, 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: the flags are going up. 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 5: So it's one of our favorite weekends. 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 6: It's a message event for Brisbane tourism and it's not whining. 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 6: I thought we'll give them two to three years and 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 6: then do we look at Melbourne, Do we look at Adelaide, 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 6: do we look at Sydney? But at Brisbane they keep 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 6: coming back and it's a wonderful opportunity. Different people have 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 6: a weekend away and watch it games, have a couple 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 6: of beers, buzz Absolutely, mate, I'm on the tools made, 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 6: I'm working. 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 5: You work. 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I'll be up there working. 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to the next to the start of 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: the show. It really is a crisis for the Blues. Injuries, 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: Tom Travoyevich, Nathan Cleary, two of the big guns for 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: the Blues going down just in time for Origin. It 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: is shocking. For New South Wales not good. They're not 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: good for their teams, their respective teams as well. This 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: was really hard to watch over the weekend, wasn't it. 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: I hate it. 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 6: I hate seeing champions limp off like that in despair 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 6: and they both now got a history, probably Turbo worse 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 6: than Nathan. 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 5: Mate. 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 6: I just don't like it. And again even at Magic Round, 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 6: we don't get to see them. And I love Cornalo 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 6: as you know, but I switch on the TV to 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 6: watch clear End Turbo. Wherever they playing, it doesn't matter. 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 6: And for Origin it's a massive blow for the Blues. 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: Did you have the same feeling when Ponger limped off? 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: I did, Tina to an extent. Yeah, what's your point 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Queensland lost players? Yeah, like we lose players to Nathan 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: Nathan what You're going to Philly spot with Mitchell Moses. 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: You're going to fill it with Mitchell Moses, who's absolutely unbelievable, 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 4: great kicking game. And Tommy Turbo when plays on South Wales, 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: you pick him out of position. He doesn't even play 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: number one, he plays number three. 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 6: Or I do think this is a Blues tactic. 68 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: To feel you feel make your team best. 69 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 6: You can't make the best. 70 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: Played in Game three last year was absolutely out saying 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: you've got stags, you got Crichton, You've got so many. 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: There's no replacement for You've got Zack Lomax. 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 6: That's kind of no replacements. 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: It's Queensland favorites this year. Never monsters make he's got 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: what a bad groin heat play last week? You know, 76 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: I no Flegler. The game's on. 77 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: The Queensland has had to be favorites now, Nathan pick 78 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: my side. 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 6: Next segment there look on Queensland our favorites. When Clearly 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 6: and Turbo went down, the tab had New South Wales 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 6: as a dollar eighting. 82 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: They're up to two twenty five influential listening Nathan Cleary. 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: His influence on any game of football is that. And 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: obviously New South Wales with the injuries that they've got 85 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: in their backup halves as well, it doesn't look good 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: for them. But I think, just on a personal level 87 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: for Nathan Cleary, unfairly, I believe the one shot that 88 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: people have a Nathan Cleary, this champion half back, is 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: that he's never dominated origin. I don't agree with that. 90 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: And to see the opportunity rob from him is really disappointing. 91 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: He missed a large chunk of last year's State of 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Origin as well, so we didn't get the chance to 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: dominate there, and I just really feel for this potential. 94 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, who knows what he could become in terms 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: of the future of the game. 96 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 5: It's Penless best Chance's best chance to go. 97 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: No one else je that. 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 6: That's a really good comment because I've argued and argue 99 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 6: and argue that this guy should be alongside John's and 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 6: things because he steered a club to three straight titles 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 6: in the salary cap era. 102 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: But you're right. 103 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 6: People keep saying he hasn't done on the Origin starf. 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: And it just looks well he hasn't. 105 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: To be fair, that's the question. I love him a legend, 106 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: and what he's. 107 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: Been Evans outplays him like. 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: The sad part is Nathan clear is he's won three 109 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 4: three Premierships in a row and no one will ever 110 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: take that from him. It's gone down a history books. 111 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: Is he one of the best players of his era? Absolutely? 112 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 4: Has he dominated State of Origin like Thurston, like Lockier, 113 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: like John's like Fitdler, like Langer, like Lewis, like. 114 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: He hasn't gone. No, believe he will. I believe he will. 115 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. 116 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: There has been a lot of injuries and I've been 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: asked to put my team up for the New South fALS. Listen, 118 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: it's a couple of weeks early, but I've given it 119 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: a crack. I would like to have done this in 120 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks time. Now I'm going to go 121 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: with Tedesco. I know that Edwards if he made it, 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: I'd be very happy, and he's been outstanding leading the 123 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: dali Ms. So we're going to stick with the captain 124 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: to on the wing with Krich and I think Crichton 125 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: needs to be there a bit of an asterisk with 126 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: Best now. Best is the incumbent center and played great 127 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: on the weekend and I think for now, if he 128 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: continues his form, stick with him. He could be a 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: contentious one. The reason I went with him at Okar 130 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: and Adokar is the incumbent, but I love his height, 131 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: I love his power and his ability to bring the 132 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: ball back and start our sets for New South Wales, 133 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: I think will be invaluable. Heines is another one that 134 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: I'm going with for the time being, and I thought 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: about Burton, but I think heines is earn't the right 136 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 3: there in five eight the partner moses obviously with the 137 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: injuries there, these two I think are the best right now. 138 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: Paynehass chorus our Chaboevitch is a must and we know why. 139 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: And Leam Martin the same now angers Krichton. I've gone 140 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: back row on that left hand edge. I would play 141 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: Martin on the right angus. He's in great form. You know, 142 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: he's still got to carry that form over the next 143 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. I believe to be selected, but he 144 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: deserves it right now, ye know. And then this was 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: a tough one too. Mckinnis on the bench. I think 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: mckinnis he is like a rock in the middle. He 147 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: makes his tackles. He can play a number of positions, 148 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: but I feel like he'd suit origin. He'll get the 149 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: job done, and he's tough. He's tough and resilient. Oli 150 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: Kuat who brings a bit of variety off the bench. 151 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: He's being size, speed and agility as well. For how 152 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: big is Barnett's the big one there. I think he's 153 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: earned the right. Yes, the Warriors are struggling at the moment, 154 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: but that's not true his fault and I think he 155 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: deserves that right and lean you returning s. I think 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: just Leny's built for origin coming off the bench. He's 157 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: got that power. Now I've got Burton as a eighth 158 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: men because I'm got to film. They may pick him, 159 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: and you could pick him in a number of positions. 160 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: They may go for him in the centers. They could 161 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: up with him at five to eight or on the 162 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: bench instead of mckinnis. 163 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: But that's the seam I come up with bars Can because. 164 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: No, I don't I actually like the side you picked 165 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 6: Joseph on the wing, Okay, why I think we need 166 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 6: to pick players who are absolutely committed long term, will 167 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 6: die for the New South Wales sky blue jersey. Joseph, 168 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 6: can I hold on? Can I say, Joseph Sali? His 169 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 6: dream is to wear a Wallaby jersey or a new 170 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 6: South Wales. He has made a decision. He has made 171 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 6: a decision. 172 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: His dream has never been to put a blue jersey. 173 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: I don't know that exactly, but you can't speak for him. 174 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 6: Well, he wants a Wallaby jersey, he wants He's. 175 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Leaving the game if we don't have. 176 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 6: Reasons to finish Josh had Car this could take a while, 177 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 6: right or the form winger in the camp, Zach Lomax 178 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 6: on that wing with the other side. 179 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Now we have have no problem with either of them. 180 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: But I would go with Swala first, that's all. 181 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: And I disagree. I don't think you do need to 182 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: look at the future and people that want to be 183 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: in our game. Michael McGuire needs to pick a team 184 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: to win a game in Sydney for game one. That's 185 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: all his objective. He picks for now. What's going to 186 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: happen at the end of the year is relevant under 187 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: so much pressure. 188 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 6: Listening to Queenslanders tell us what the Maroon's jersey means 189 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 6: to that state and how there's more passion that it's 190 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 6: bigger than the sky blue jersey. 191 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: Right. 192 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 6: I want players committed to New South Wales, not the 193 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 6: Wallabies next my opinion. 194 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's communed to that jersey, you 195 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: haven't spoken. 196 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 6: It wouldn't have jumps. 197 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: That's that's that's not true at all. 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: What did you jump because you've got more money because 199 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: he doesn't want to play for yourself. 200 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Also, if you look at the predicament that Michael maguire 201 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: is in Gordon spoke about some of the middle forwards 202 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: that are missing for Queensland. So look, part of constructing 203 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: a game plan is about playing to your strength, but 204 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: also looking at how to defeat the opposition. Now, how 205 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: to defeat the opposition might be looking at some of 206 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: their perceived and he used this word weaknesses. You said 207 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: it not me perceived weaknesses and that maybe through the 208 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: middle because they're missing Flaggler and they're missing Tina. So 209 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: if you use if you use the big winger like 210 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: a he he's going to try. He's going to take 211 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: the ball through the middle of the field harder. 212 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 6: And more difficult, can bring the football back, not. 213 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: As strongly as surely he No, I don't agree, and 214 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: he's playing. 215 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: Ordinary, so just keep the numbers. 216 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: So we'll look at the Dalian team of the week, the. 217 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 6: Pick the side on form and I think Zach makes 218 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 6: has had a better season than everyone watching this show 219 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 6: will agree with me. 220 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: Part I agree much perhaps is but to do the 221 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: job that's in front of Michael maguire and the new 222 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: South Wales state of origin. It's not about picking team 223 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: of the year. I know that you just said that 224 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: you would pick much beast off his Dalian Id just used. 225 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 6: It as a small part of. 226 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: My also points in terms of it's easiest. 227 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 6: I used it as part of my argument to explain 228 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 6: what great form he has been in for guy he 229 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 6: didn't want to be in the wing and he's committed 230 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: to rugby league, says Josh Hadow Carr, who has got 231 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 6: the job done for New South Wales so many times 232 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 6: in the past. When he last played for Australia on 233 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 6: the Kangaroo tour on the World Cup, he was the 234 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 6: Kangaroo Player of the tournament. He's a very good footballer. 235 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 6: He's making the most of every opportunity at cannab That 236 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 6: would be great there. 237 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: And so Josh picked because I can imagine him bringing 238 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: that ball back with great power, quick play the balls, 239 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: great under the high ball. And he's an aggressive he's 240 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: got he's got that tenacious aggressive. 241 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 6: Uh And what do we do next year? Might go 242 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 6: to one of the guys. 243 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: We're talking about. 244 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 6: We're playing against the British lines. 245 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: Good, let's move on about half so that this is 246 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: really the big one. 247 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: I mean, there's not many options. 248 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: So Moses is back this week from all imports, is 249 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: he or there's a chance he's playing, there's a chance, 250 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: and I think Nicko Heines deserves a chance, like I 251 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: really do. 252 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 5: So everybody was up in arms. He's got that opportunity. 253 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: When months the skipped across and hit Tabo for he 254 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: made he run past. Clearly he run a past a 255 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: few players. Nico got the blame for that. If you 256 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: want to pick was he Dullian player of the year. 257 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 6: Made, I'm too scared. I'm just going to nod from 258 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 6: here on. 259 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: But like the origin generally is for big bodies that 260 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 4: can play, and if they're a bigger bye and can 261 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: do the job, you normally pick them because it is 262 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: a beast out there. So I think Nico Heines Caronal 263 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: is on top of the table. You think he's full 264 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 4: of confidence, if he's Calf's right, You think you give him. 265 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 5: The first credit. You would think, unless. 266 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: So because some of the suggested to pick him in 267 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: the seventh position. If he played seven, who would you 268 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: put six? 269 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: I would have low I there only that he's had 270 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 6: a full season of forty, where Moses is a little 271 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 6: bit underdone, so I'd go Heins. 272 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I just wonder how much Michael Maguire's decision on his 273 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: spine players will be affected by the loss of Nathan Cleary. So, 274 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the Tedesco versus Edwards debate, does he 275 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: go with experience heines versus lou Eye. Does he pick 276 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: players that have been there before because they have had 277 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: such a disastrous news with spine players in terms of injury? 278 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Does he pick players does he you know, people who 279 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: he may have picked to be with Nathan as opposed 280 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: to now people with more experience. It's a big day 281 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: lemmath for Marker mcguayh. 282 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I respect what you said there, but I 283 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 6: think the fallback debate and I views almost I think 284 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 6: Teddy in the last three weeks has been outstanding since 285 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: coming back. And I don't even regard at a topic 286 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 6: now to you. 287 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Guys, well, there's a lot of noise about it. There is, 288 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: and rightly so. In terms of the form of Edwards, 289 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: I mean what a player. I mean, he's a great 290 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: play and it's unfortunately he's up against Teddy who is 291 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: the captain. And as I said earlier, if he was 292 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: to be picked, I'd be okay with that. Now let's 293 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: move on to there is another team that New South 294 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: Fars are playing against Gordy Queen. 295 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: Yes, obviously response you know, like he's made a lot 296 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: of mistakes at the moment, but because he's trying so much. 297 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: Xavier Coach, I think he's back in the next couple 298 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: of weeks. Cobbo goes back to the wing. I know 299 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: he's playing Santa's Bell Holmes and Tabria Forde. I think 300 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: he comes back in the next couple of weeks. So yeah, 301 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: there's a few guys that haven't had a lot of 302 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: footy in the last month, but they've done the job. 303 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: In Queensland Jerseys as that's what we've always picked. Monster 304 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: and Cherry Evans picked themselves. Lindsay Collins with no ten 305 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: o fleg it's really important. With the front row, Mofood 306 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: Awacer was absolutely outstanding, is they I think it was 307 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: twelve carries in the first half for like one hundred 308 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: and forty odd meters. Grant for feeder Nani Carrigan, Hunt, 309 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: cot A, Hopgood and Walsh and obviously with the benches, 310 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: guys like Maxpoth, there's a few that are pushing like 311 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: around it. There's like a Jaden Sewer, There's Max Poth. 312 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: There's a few guys that are around cafusies around like 313 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: they're just sort of around. 314 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 5: But if they went with that, I think that's what 315 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: I can get it. It's a strong term. 316 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: Jimmy Varr's thoughts on this Tia you want to pick. 317 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 6: Up half from No, I can't pick that turn apart. 318 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 6: I think it's a good side and it shows why 319 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 6: the tav had Queensland favorites. It's a very settled lineup. 320 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 6: A couple of boys there are the hammer in the four. 321 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 6: Jersey hasn't played a lot of forty everyone else has. 322 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 6: You're right, Welsh hasn't been going enormous, but just a superstart. 323 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 5: I like that side. First choice spine. 324 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: That's your first choice spine right there from week one 325 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: of the season. Coach Billy Slater, if he had his 326 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: dream spine everybody fit and firing, that's the one he picks. 327 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: And obviously with Hunt and Hunt and Grant, I know 328 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: that they swapping whoever starts, but they'll play similar minutes. 329 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: You know. 330 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 5: It already depends how the game's going. 331 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: And like Lindsay Collins like, yeah, it's probably time for 332 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 4: him to own the forward pack. You would think he's 333 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: got a big responsibility, doesn't especially but with no Gilbert 334 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: as well. 335 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 5: That's someone there's a to put that one down to 336 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: you guys. We've got another yeah. 337 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: Easy for coins. Yeah you got it in the bag. 338 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: Gordy favorite one nil coins New South Wales. 339 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: They'll be saying it's the worst of a New South Wales. 340 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: Where still count his money. 341 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: Dog no worst seven A quaincidence A right. 342 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about this for a couple of weeks now. 343 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: Colla ended a nine game losing streak in amy Park 344 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: Banks in part to Harry Grant's controversial sin binning before halftime. 345 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: He is how it all unfolded. 346 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 7: The float for Monstar the flat ball is a figure 347 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 7: for you t and it's Raemas Smith who stores well 348 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 7: camp Munster had sat back and what this game up? 349 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: Five? It's the Storm twelve Romelas six. 350 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 7: Atkinson we got collected on the way through there and penalty. 351 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 7: This has become a real misde owner in the game 352 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 7: that that ain't like. 353 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 5: From record. 354 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 7: That look from Harry Grant tells you everything you need 355 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 7: to know. That a little week from Daniel Atkinson used 356 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 7: to play for Melbourne's Storm. I think Michael, now we 357 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 7: have the definitive line in the sand. 358 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 6: That's it now. 359 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 7: Any contact as middling as. 360 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 8: It's seen, whether you like it or not, yea, that 361 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 8: is now game. We've seen the danger with it down 362 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 8: the middle, so girball. 363 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 7: And this game has completely changed complex. It's a too 364 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 7: brific catch. Cima la tala that he got away, he 365 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 7: burned Welsh then. 366 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 9: He goes as surely gotta claim that massive scale. 367 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 7: This is sub night for the Cronulla Sharks. 368 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: That was a turning point thanks to Ashley and Martin 369 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: medical hair centers and the debate rages over that sin 370 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: bin to Harry Grant up against the Caronula Sharks. Atkinson 371 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: puts the kick in, Harry Grant comes across, makes contact 372 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: with the leg and he's given ten minutes in the bin, 373 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: which was significant at the time term in the context 374 00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: of the game. 375 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your opinion on this one. 376 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 6: I'll open the batting here. I'm all for foul play policing. 377 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 6: That was the most pathetic sin binning I've ever seen 378 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 6: on a rugby league field. 379 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: It really was. 380 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 6: I've got stats to back it up. There have been 381 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 6: eleven incidents this year where players charging down kickers have 382 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 6: come into contact with the kickers legs. Two of those 383 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 6: eleven have gone to the sin bin. That one was 384 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 6: possibly a penalty, possibly a penalty. I would have been happy. 385 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: I would have been happy if they'd let the game go. 386 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 6: But to have two senior referees, g Adam g in 387 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 6: the box and the other fella grad Atkins on the 388 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 6: field to come up with a decision like that, you're 389 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 6: asking people to kick television, so. 390 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: Let's ask someone they kicked the ball. I think they're 391 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 4: trying to make it black and white. They can't talk 392 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 4: about I realize that, but they're trying to say you 393 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: are not allowed to come in contact with the leagus, 394 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 4: whether it's sin binning or not. If it's consistent, the 395 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: fans will move on with it. I don't think it's 396 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: a sind in, but it's where the game wants to head. 397 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: And first and foremost, I think it's embarrassing. 398 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: I think for our game to send Harry Grean off 399 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: for ten minutes in a critical moment, one of our 400 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: biggest stars, I think it takes it away from the 401 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: game and the fans as well. I think it's it's 402 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: crazy just quickly this was This happened the week before 403 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: and this was worse and there wasn't even a penalty, right, 404 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: Nick Romi goes straight to the league and that's a 405 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: match winning play. If he gets a penalty there, they 406 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: win the game. Here the Cowboys takes. 407 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 5: Out his let. 408 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: He's training to his league, right, but just let me 409 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: finish you quickly. So it's an embarrassing call. I understand 410 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: what the anerl are trying to do. They're trying to 411 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: protect the players. I mean, I look, everyone knows to 412 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: look after lockey liss. He snapped his league in half. 413 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: Similar not not well, it was a lot worse than that, 414 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: but I know the severity of what can happen, and 415 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 3: players can be put out for the season. I get 416 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: it right, we've got to protect our kickers. But there's 417 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 3: got to be common sense. There really has to be 418 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: common sense, and there's got to be consistency. There's no consistency, 419 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: like Buzz just said, and we've seen, like you said, 420 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 3: nine other incidences where players have not even barely been penalized. 421 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: They are only given ten in the bin. Harry barely 422 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: touched his leg. It was just a reaction of Atkinson, 423 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 3: which you can't blame you because the players are doing it, 424 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: but it's common sense. 425 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: Do we have any common sense? 426 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: I get it, but there can't be because as soon 427 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: as there is, players bend the rules and they milk it. 428 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: But I think there is so for me, this protection 429 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: of the of the kickers and what the NL training 430 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: to implement here has gone too far. So there's a 431 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: difference between making contact with a kicker's leg and attacking 432 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: the legs of the kicker or the player kicking the ball. 433 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I think that should be outlaw. I've made that mistake 434 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: in doing that myself, attacking where the ball will be 435 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: and taking the legs of the kicker that lately so 436 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: should be gone. But if you actually look at that, 437 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: Harry Grant doesn't go anywhere near the legs. He actually 438 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: actually occupies the space and where the foot of Atkinson 439 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: goes In no way is this file play. I'm delighted 440 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: that Harry Grant Melbourne storm easy to take. 441 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 6: Sois Cup yesterday Brad Schneider, the Penrith deputy who will 442 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: be which they need now too, Yeah, which he was 443 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 6: charged down, but here it is here. 444 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: I think. 445 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: So there you see, that's that's bad. 446 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: That's bad if you attack the legs of the kicker. 447 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 6: And you know what I do when you get the 448 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: luckey ilias Brad Schneider incident, I give him a six 449 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 6: to eight week band. I would come down very very heavy. 450 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: On But what mentions the game brought on himself because 451 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 4: they would just come and everybody would just hit the 452 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: kicker every time they kicked that they'd come and put 453 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: the kicker on the ground. 454 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 5: Didn't you. I'm pretty sure you were trained. 455 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: To put kick pressure on from the inside, but attack 456 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: the legs. 457 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: And they kept on hitting the kicker, hitting the kicker, 458 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 4: and it started getting late. They went no, So then 459 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: they've started going at the lead. So do the players 460 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: bring this on themselves? Because because none of them like 461 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 4: it when it happens to their own number seven, they 462 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 4: all come in and push and grab their handbags and starts. 463 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: If you can see the intent for someone so like 464 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: that example that you can see there's no that they 465 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: go towards the kicker and it's clear that they're in 466 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: that line of sight. But if you just go like 467 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Harry Grant did and you don't attack the legs, then 468 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be a. 469 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 6: Penalty putting any danger at all. 470 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Exactly, and he didn't. 471 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 5: He could almost Grant could make it. 472 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: Look like an accident, exactly advocate. They can all done 473 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: in and look away. 474 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: I generally they came and made stronger content. It happens 475 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: a lot. But I don't even think Harry was even 476 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 3: trying to No, I don't think. 477 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 5: I don't think Harry was. I think it's I think 478 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 5: it was a poor decision the other. 479 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 4: But if you leave it into the player's hands and 480 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: you come back with common sense, they'll just starting a bit. 481 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 5: Hard, I think hard, and they will look away. They 482 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 5: will okay, So what's going to happen? 483 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: We will finish this off. What's going to happen next? 484 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Though? 485 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: Is it going to be black and white? 486 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: Is it going to be if you touch a foot 487 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: of a kicker it's tending the dinner, or it's a penalty, 488 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: like where are we going to go for me? 489 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: It's a very critical call what happens. 490 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: I think we can all live with black and white consistency. 491 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: And if Josh Aloyer can get away and just the penalty, 492 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 6: Harry Grant can as well. If there's a bad one 493 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 6: like the two were soon New South Wales Cup, they 494 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 6: should be instant sand ups. 495 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: You can't used to drink water one either, because we 496 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: really want games being decided by things like that, to 497 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: drink quarter one in the area. 498 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: Do we want that given a penalty? 499 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: I don't think that was a penalty. 500 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: Do you want our fans to be watching games? 501 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 6: I think so fans will tolerate if they're consistent. 502 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: That's right. I don't even think consider. 503 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: I brought the alloy one up a few weeks ago, 504 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: and I was disappointed that. 505 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 5: Johnson jump up and kick the goal. 506 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: That's what the players are doing now right, it's anyway, Okay, 507 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: let's talk about this one. The slap in the face, 508 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: the slap on the face, Bromage, Jesse bromige On, Taborivitch 509 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: there he is. 510 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: What do we think of this? 511 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: One of the worst player the walls I've ever seen 512 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: for a top one. By the way, he might have 513 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: been concussed. 514 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: On hope. 515 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: This is wrong on so many levels, so many levels, 516 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: and I will save the most important one of why 517 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: this is wrong to the end. So the first challenge 518 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: is they challenge the decision of a knock on. So 519 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: they go and check that Tommy Taboyovitch knocks the ball on. 520 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: There is no interference. Then they start to look has 521 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: there been a disruptor? We go nitpicking? 522 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 5: Has been a disruptor? 523 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: No? Then they look at high contact. Okay, has there 524 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: been high contact? 525 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: Yes? 526 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: Well yes, but you go back and watch any game 527 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: of rugby league and almost examine every single rule and 528 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: tell me if there is isn't high if you what 529 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: could be defined that high contact. But here's why this 530 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: is wrong. So players milking things one of the big 531 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: bug bearers. So now if I'm going into a tackle 532 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: and we're seeing you know when players get clipped around 533 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: the jaw or around the neck and they know they'll 534 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: hear me out good if they stay down, we don't 535 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: like it. And they wait and they play that game 536 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: of cat and mouse with the bunker. They don't get 537 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: the call. They're waiting, they're waiting. You know what I 538 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: tell my players to do. Now, just drop the ball, 539 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: knock on. I'm going to challenge that, sir or man, Hey, 540 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: we get to check out with the video. F it 541 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: goes to get challenged, have there's contact been made? I 542 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: get remember, I get the decision. You can't encourage this behavior. 543 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 5: That's why it's got to be black and white. 544 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: You can't encourage that because players now if they feel 545 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: like they've been clipped, will purposely just dropped the ball 546 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: and then challenge it. 547 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 6: But Jimmy, can't we just come back to common sense 548 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 6: we experienced people in them. 549 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 4: Because then you see the decisions two have been seeing. 550 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 6: Anyone with common sense could say because common sense buzz 551 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 6: but it was yeah, but I'm talking. 552 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 4: About it is falling or whatever, and there is Harry's 553 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: got to go to the bin and we don't like. 554 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: His hands, decision, Brum's hand. It's almost a hit level. 555 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: It's wrong on so many levels. Don't be surprised to 556 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: see coaches encourage their players after they've had the faintest 557 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: of touch to the head or neck, not take a dive, 558 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: just drop the ball. 559 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 3: We're going to get to a break into sticking around 560 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: plenty more account and following in our three sixties, Captain 561 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: Tom Didn't sits down with Jake Duke in the latest 562 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: edition of Face to Face