1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,801 Speaker 1: Approach production. 2 00:00:23,761 --> 00:00:25,921 Speaker 2: For the record. I'm don't try and make you uncomfortable. 3 00:00:26,721 --> 00:00:28,601 Speaker 2: Right for the record. You ain't trying to grow down 4 00:00:28,641 --> 00:00:31,521 Speaker 2: the stuff for your right for the record, laugh on 5 00:00:31,641 --> 00:00:34,601 Speaker 2: me going all the way way for the record. Ain't 6 00:00:34,601 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: trying to link, no, trying to wait stop for. 7 00:00:37,081 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: The record, for the record, for the for the record, 8 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: for the right. 9 00:00:45,081 --> 00:00:47,641 Speaker 2: For the ready record. 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,681 Speaker 4: For the record. 11 00:00:50,721 --> 00:00:52,201 Speaker 2: I don't try and make you uncomfortable. 12 00:00:52,521 --> 00:00:59,601 Speaker 1: That's right. Welcome back to the clink. We are into 13 00:00:59,641 --> 00:01:03,441 Speaker 1: the nineteenth season and we're coming to the pointy end 14 00:01:03,641 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: of it for two thousand and twenty six. I really 15 00:01:06,121 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed all our guests today. Today is another 16 00:01:10,401 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: special guest who I truly have a lot of admiration 17 00:01:13,681 --> 00:01:16,681 Speaker 1: and respect for a man that I met well over 18 00:01:16,721 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: twenty years ago playing rugby league. 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: We were both a lot younger, better looking. 20 00:01:22,241 --> 00:01:24,561 Speaker 1: But then again now I say that he's actually a 21 00:01:24,601 --> 00:01:27,281 Speaker 1: good looking chap. He hasn't really aged as much as 22 00:01:27,321 --> 00:01:29,881 Speaker 1: what I would say, but what he's definitely done is 23 00:01:29,881 --> 00:01:34,801 Speaker 1: phenomenal with his life since those days. Brad is an 24 00:01:34,881 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: indigenous artist who is absolutely. 25 00:01:37,961 --> 00:01:39,121 Speaker 4: Well known for his art. 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,401 Speaker 1: Now worked extremely hard and he has done some of 27 00:01:43,441 --> 00:01:46,441 Speaker 1: the most amazing pieces of Indigenous art, and I'll let 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,921 Speaker 1: him tell you all about it because he's gotten it 29 00:01:48,961 --> 00:01:50,881 Speaker 1: in the places that you and I would only ever 30 00:01:50,961 --> 00:01:53,961 Speaker 1: dream of. Brad is the first Nations man, a very 31 00:01:54,001 --> 00:01:59,681 Speaker 1: proud man and a massive community contributor. Brad Turner. Welcome 32 00:01:59,921 --> 00:02:00,561 Speaker 1: to the clink. 33 00:02:01,081 --> 00:02:02,361 Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks having me, Bro. 34 00:02:02,521 --> 00:02:06,401 Speaker 1: It's awesome, Rather than I was about to say, this 35 00:02:06,441 --> 00:02:10,041 Speaker 1: is one of those ones. It's long overdue, firstly, but 36 00:02:10,601 --> 00:02:14,161 Speaker 1: I feel within my heart now is the time so 37 00:02:14,281 --> 00:02:15,481 Speaker 1: many years ago, Brad. 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: So I'll just take you all back on a little 39 00:02:17,881 --> 00:02:18,641 Speaker 4: bit of a journey. 40 00:02:19,081 --> 00:02:23,921 Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago, Brad, maybe twelve, yeah, yeah, yeah, it 41 00:02:24,321 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: was a while ago that we sat down at the 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,001 Speaker 1: Rockey and we had our DNM. So let me just 43 00:02:29,041 --> 00:02:31,961 Speaker 1: take it back. I was the founder of a national 44 00:02:32,081 --> 00:02:36,401 Speaker 1: charity called the Heavy Hitters Foundation, and I've proudly been 45 00:02:37,121 --> 00:02:40,081 Speaker 1: involved in around the mental health space and wellness for 46 00:02:40,161 --> 00:02:42,441 Speaker 1: a long long time. A lot of people that have 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,281 Speaker 1: only just sort of come along may not know that, 48 00:02:44,361 --> 00:02:45,961 Speaker 1: but if you go and actually do a bit of 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,601 Speaker 1: research on my backstory, you'll understand why I became the 50 00:02:49,641 --> 00:02:52,681 Speaker 1: first person to cycle across Australia from east to West 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Tasmania done massive things within the space of the mental 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,321 Speaker 1: health space over the years, and Brad was somebody I 53 00:03:02,481 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: interviewed for our charity. At that stage in Brad's life, 54 00:03:07,361 --> 00:03:09,601 Speaker 1: it could have gone either way. It was a very 55 00:03:09,641 --> 00:03:13,241 Speaker 1: tough time Brad and I to the point where we 56 00:03:13,361 --> 00:03:17,081 Speaker 1: both were in tears, Brad sharing his story, me listening 57 00:03:17,121 --> 00:03:19,401 Speaker 1: and knowing each other so well, and there was so 58 00:03:19,481 --> 00:03:22,441 Speaker 1: much that I think a lot of us truly didn't 59 00:03:22,481 --> 00:03:24,881 Speaker 1: know about Brad that he was able to find the 60 00:03:24,921 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: strength within himself to. 61 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: Allow me to hear. 62 00:03:29,161 --> 00:03:31,321 Speaker 1: And I was forever honored and grateful for that. And 63 00:03:31,361 --> 00:03:34,521 Speaker 1: there are moments that we'll always have together and it 64 00:03:34,561 --> 00:03:38,641 Speaker 1: built a really beautiful trust and brotherhood and something that 65 00:03:39,401 --> 00:03:43,761 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of today. And today Brad is an 66 00:03:43,801 --> 00:03:48,361 Speaker 1: amazing artist. And when he tells your story, I truly 67 00:03:48,401 --> 00:03:51,401 Speaker 1: feel that you are going to be blown away. Now, Brad, 68 00:03:51,521 --> 00:03:55,521 Speaker 1: for those that don't know you, let's properly introduce you 69 00:03:55,561 --> 00:03:58,361 Speaker 1: and I'll allow you you tell everyone who you are, 70 00:03:58,681 --> 00:03:59,641 Speaker 1: where you're from. 71 00:03:59,601 --> 00:04:00,481 Speaker 4: And what you're all about. 72 00:04:01,081 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 6: So, yeah, Brad Turner, my name Indigenous artists. So I 73 00:04:04,761 --> 00:04:08,241 Speaker 6: was born on tweet forever lived on the Gold Coast. 74 00:04:08,241 --> 00:04:10,801 Speaker 6: They're southern and the best part grew up in like 75 00:04:10,881 --> 00:04:13,481 Speaker 6: that local area there in Crumblin. People used to call 76 00:04:13,521 --> 00:04:16,641 Speaker 6: it the mission. It's like government housing and that, but 77 00:04:16,761 --> 00:04:19,041 Speaker 6: it was the best. Like I didn't grow up my father, 78 00:04:19,201 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 6: so to me, I knocked around with the older boys 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 6: and they kind of protected me and my cousins, and 80 00:04:24,201 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 6: that looked after me, and he knew one way, like 81 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,001 Speaker 6: loyalty was really good there. But you also had elders 82 00:04:31,041 --> 00:04:33,401 Speaker 6: and you know, like where I feel like it's gone 83 00:04:33,401 --> 00:04:35,961 Speaker 6: a bit wrong now where if you mucked up, you 84 00:04:36,081 --> 00:04:38,121 Speaker 6: paid the price to the older people, they'd be looking 85 00:04:38,121 --> 00:04:39,161 Speaker 6: for you and you get dealt with. 86 00:04:39,521 --> 00:04:40,441 Speaker 5: It was a hierarchy. 87 00:04:41,961 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, not only that, Brad was a fantastic rugby league player. 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: He's a humble man and I don't know where you. 89 00:04:46,961 --> 00:04:50,241 Speaker 1: Won't sit here and praise himself too much, but this 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,961 Speaker 1: is a man that could have been at. 91 00:04:51,841 --> 00:04:54,121 Speaker 4: Any level within the rugby league space. 92 00:04:54,401 --> 00:04:57,801 Speaker 1: And you're a force to be reckoned with on the field. 93 00:04:57,801 --> 00:05:00,921 Speaker 1: And I thoroughly enjoyed playing beside you and also watching 94 00:05:00,961 --> 00:05:02,161 Speaker 1: you play in later years. 95 00:05:02,241 --> 00:05:04,001 Speaker 4: It was some thank you. 96 00:05:04,601 --> 00:05:07,361 Speaker 7: Well, you know, like a lot of your brothers just 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 7: naturally gifted and you were never a small fella, but 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,361 Speaker 7: you were a rock hard and fast fella, you know, 99 00:05:14,601 --> 00:05:18,041 Speaker 7: smaller and stature, rock hard and could fucking move. 100 00:05:18,761 --> 00:05:19,041 Speaker 1: Mate. 101 00:05:19,161 --> 00:05:20,721 Speaker 4: Whoever actually had. 102 00:05:20,561 --> 00:05:22,841 Speaker 1: To run into you, who really knew that they were 103 00:05:22,841 --> 00:05:26,321 Speaker 1: getting hit by Brad Turner. It was just always exciting. 104 00:05:26,361 --> 00:05:29,801 Speaker 1: It was always good, hard, tough footing. But you had 105 00:05:29,841 --> 00:05:32,881 Speaker 1: an amazing skill set. But life didn't turn out that 106 00:05:32,921 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: way and you didn't end up in that direction. In 107 00:05:36,001 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the end of playing you representative football to the levels 108 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: that you most definitely were able to play. And let's 109 00:05:43,361 --> 00:05:46,081 Speaker 1: talk about what that was like, because I think that 110 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: teenage years and moving into manhood was massive for you, 111 00:05:51,201 --> 00:05:51,601 Speaker 1: wasn't it. 112 00:05:52,001 --> 00:05:52,921 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, definitely. 113 00:05:53,041 --> 00:05:54,921 Speaker 6: Like I said before, I didn't grow up with my 114 00:05:55,001 --> 00:05:57,601 Speaker 6: dad and then you kind of look for certain things, 115 00:05:58,081 --> 00:06:00,121 Speaker 6: so you look to the older people that you hang 116 00:06:00,201 --> 00:06:03,241 Speaker 6: around with and stuff like that. And with football, I 117 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,161 Speaker 6: wish I had the mindset of what I do now 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,921 Speaker 6: to be like more adapted and focused and also know 119 00:06:11,121 --> 00:06:14,361 Speaker 6: that if you want something, you go get it. Like 120 00:06:14,401 --> 00:06:17,361 Speaker 6: then no one people can tell you no, but it's 121 00:06:17,401 --> 00:06:19,121 Speaker 6: up to you in the end what you do or 122 00:06:19,121 --> 00:06:22,081 Speaker 6: what you don't do, and those decisions actually they can 123 00:06:22,161 --> 00:06:25,321 Speaker 6: change your path, your life. So you feel something I 124 00:06:25,361 --> 00:06:27,881 Speaker 6: was taking out of that when I was younger. I 125 00:06:27,961 --> 00:06:29,721 Speaker 6: wish I'd go back to that and I'd be like 126 00:06:30,161 --> 00:06:33,161 Speaker 6: the times when people went come and train and do this, 127 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,681 Speaker 6: or move a different club or whatever. Then I probably 128 00:06:36,681 --> 00:06:40,161 Speaker 6: would have taken different opportunities for me to excel in 129 00:06:40,241 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 6: those areas, not just stay and do the fun stuff. 130 00:06:44,281 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: Do you think, too, Brad, a young Indigenous man without 131 00:06:48,561 --> 00:06:52,041 Speaker 1: his father, you're raised I guess by the community and 132 00:06:52,081 --> 00:06:55,561 Speaker 1: those around the cousins and obviously Mum, and you know 133 00:06:55,641 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: the mob that were around you for a young Indigenous man, 134 00:06:58,721 --> 00:07:01,401 Speaker 1: and I think this is important to step away from that. 135 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,001 Speaker 4: Even if contracts had come. 136 00:07:02,921 --> 00:07:04,841 Speaker 1: Up and you were offered to go play sort of 137 00:07:05,121 --> 00:07:08,401 Speaker 1: North Queensland or South in Sydney, or at that stage 138 00:07:08,401 --> 00:07:11,041 Speaker 1: you could have gone west. Do you really feel that 139 00:07:11,281 --> 00:07:13,801 Speaker 1: it would have been a tough journey for you to 140 00:07:13,841 --> 00:07:17,281 Speaker 1: be able to be comfortable and move away from your 141 00:07:17,321 --> 00:07:21,801 Speaker 1: people and actually really really you know, adapt to the 142 00:07:21,801 --> 00:07:25,161 Speaker 1: lifestyle of not having your mob around you, feeling lonely. 143 00:07:25,321 --> 00:07:29,561 Speaker 6: Definitely, Yeah, especially like it was my mum. I was 144 00:07:29,561 --> 00:07:31,921 Speaker 6: the only child for my mum. So she did everything, 145 00:07:32,401 --> 00:07:35,201 Speaker 6: you know, for me, and then with all the boys, 146 00:07:35,201 --> 00:07:37,121 Speaker 6: and I feel like I wouldn't have had that confidence 147 00:07:37,801 --> 00:07:39,801 Speaker 6: moving away and doing stuff like I wouldn't have been 148 00:07:39,801 --> 00:07:42,601 Speaker 6: sure of myself. Like where I'm at now, I'm like, 149 00:07:43,321 --> 00:07:45,601 Speaker 6: you give me something to do well, you say in 150 00:07:45,641 --> 00:07:47,641 Speaker 6: the art world, Now, if someone says, oh, I need 151 00:07:47,681 --> 00:07:49,881 Speaker 6: you to do twenty artworks and it's going to go 152 00:07:49,921 --> 00:07:51,681 Speaker 6: on the block or this and that, I don't doubt 153 00:07:51,761 --> 00:07:53,801 Speaker 6: when I pay, I know that's going on to some 154 00:07:53,841 --> 00:07:56,561 Speaker 6: way especial, and I know that's going to be a 155 00:07:56,561 --> 00:08:00,041 Speaker 6: star piece if it's put up in a room, you 156 00:08:00,081 --> 00:08:02,281 Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like where one of yourself would 157 00:08:02,321 --> 00:08:05,361 Speaker 6: have been probably would have been like I don't know 158 00:08:05,401 --> 00:08:07,281 Speaker 6: if I can do that. And then you turn to 159 00:08:07,401 --> 00:08:09,921 Speaker 6: silly not silly things, but as you know, like when 160 00:08:09,921 --> 00:08:11,681 Speaker 6: you're younger and you're hanging around old people and you 161 00:08:11,761 --> 00:08:14,441 Speaker 6: turn to like drinking early and you're doing silly stuff 162 00:08:14,441 --> 00:08:17,481 Speaker 6: like that, and then it just at all spirals type 163 00:08:17,521 --> 00:08:17,721 Speaker 6: of thing. 164 00:08:18,161 --> 00:08:21,201 Speaker 4: I suppose, Yeah, I think so. I think too. It 165 00:08:21,241 --> 00:08:22,881 Speaker 4: was predominantly the culture, wasn't it. 166 00:08:22,921 --> 00:08:24,321 Speaker 1: You know, like you didn't want to be on the 167 00:08:24,361 --> 00:08:27,081 Speaker 1: outer Yeah, yeah, and look, let's be honest. 168 00:08:27,281 --> 00:08:28,841 Speaker 4: I remember we we'd play footy. 169 00:08:29,121 --> 00:08:32,401 Speaker 1: It'd be a Sunday and Sunday night we'd be down 170 00:08:32,401 --> 00:08:34,921 Speaker 1: in Cooley at the pub after the league club on 171 00:08:35,001 --> 00:08:39,681 Speaker 1: a bender. That was just how this is true and 172 00:08:39,721 --> 00:08:42,121 Speaker 1: this is just half footy so to speak. You know, 173 00:08:42,281 --> 00:08:45,841 Speaker 1: not at any major elite level, but you always sort 174 00:08:45,841 --> 00:08:47,641 Speaker 1: of felt that, oh, well, shit, if I don't go 175 00:08:47,801 --> 00:08:49,921 Speaker 1: and the boys are going to be dirty, I'm going to 176 00:08:49,921 --> 00:08:53,041 Speaker 1: miss out or going to change in the player group. 177 00:08:53,121 --> 00:08:55,681 Speaker 1: So you're sort of you're locked down and you basically 178 00:08:55,801 --> 00:08:57,761 Speaker 1: just embraced it and you get you ass handed to 179 00:08:57,801 --> 00:08:59,401 Speaker 1: you by your missus if you had a missus when 180 00:08:59,401 --> 00:09:00,921 Speaker 1: you got home and you were the biggest prick for 181 00:09:00,961 --> 00:09:03,201 Speaker 1: the next week and you go and do it all again, 182 00:09:03,441 --> 00:09:06,001 Speaker 1: or you'd hopefully playing away and you just head on home. 183 00:09:09,161 --> 00:09:10,201 Speaker 5: It was that they wondered. 184 00:09:10,841 --> 00:09:14,281 Speaker 1: It absolutely was where did you go to school? Brad? 185 00:09:14,321 --> 00:09:16,041 Speaker 4: For those that aren't familiar with you. 186 00:09:16,641 --> 00:09:17,521 Speaker 5: Always in my area. 187 00:09:17,601 --> 00:09:19,921 Speaker 6: So I went to Crumben as a primary school and 188 00:09:19,961 --> 00:09:23,401 Speaker 6: then I went to PBC PVC Sensation or that they 189 00:09:23,401 --> 00:09:25,841 Speaker 6: were great for me, like I used to be always 190 00:09:25,841 --> 00:09:28,841 Speaker 6: in so much trouble, but they just always hung on 191 00:09:28,921 --> 00:09:30,761 Speaker 6: to me and he kept me trying to stay and 192 00:09:30,801 --> 00:09:34,361 Speaker 6: playing football. But yeah, like physical stuff for me too, 193 00:09:34,441 --> 00:09:37,081 Speaker 6: like I would just hit people or like you know, 194 00:09:37,161 --> 00:09:39,241 Speaker 6: like a fraction of kids ice soccer because he would 195 00:09:39,281 --> 00:09:42,441 Speaker 6: give me his calculator and then I set bins on 196 00:09:42,521 --> 00:09:47,241 Speaker 6: fire and offices and yeah, just like stupid stuff as 197 00:09:47,281 --> 00:09:47,921 Speaker 6: a young fellow. 198 00:09:48,401 --> 00:09:50,281 Speaker 5: But yet they still put so much time into me 199 00:09:50,361 --> 00:09:50,921 Speaker 5: there and then. 200 00:09:51,641 --> 00:09:53,801 Speaker 4: And honestly, brother, I hear you so you don't know why. 201 00:09:53,841 --> 00:09:57,281 Speaker 1: And I think, looking at you now, thank God, because 202 00:09:57,441 --> 00:09:59,881 Speaker 1: what a beautiful man that you are today, A great father. 203 00:10:00,241 --> 00:10:02,801 Speaker 4: You work in the education space, helping people. 204 00:10:03,321 --> 00:10:07,201 Speaker 1: You're always giving back and I look forward to sharing, 205 00:10:07,321 --> 00:10:09,921 Speaker 1: you know, in our chat this afternoon, of the great 206 00:10:09,961 --> 00:10:12,721 Speaker 1: things that you are doing, even in the rugby league space, 207 00:10:13,241 --> 00:10:15,641 Speaker 1: not just with young men but young women these days, 208 00:10:16,321 --> 00:10:18,521 Speaker 1: like you really are giving back and you have done 209 00:10:18,521 --> 00:10:19,841 Speaker 1: now for many many years. 210 00:10:19,921 --> 00:10:21,481 Speaker 4: It's not just been a five minute thing. 211 00:10:21,801 --> 00:10:24,681 Speaker 1: It's just you. It's who you are within your heart, 212 00:10:24,881 --> 00:10:27,201 Speaker 1: and I want to commend you for that because it 213 00:10:27,201 --> 00:10:29,521 Speaker 1: could have been quite easy, you know, to be that 214 00:10:29,641 --> 00:10:32,761 Speaker 1: bloke that was I was that guy you know that 215 00:10:32,921 --> 00:10:35,241 Speaker 1: has been as we've called it sitting at the league's 216 00:10:35,241 --> 00:10:37,841 Speaker 1: club every weekend because there's only two minutes from home 217 00:10:38,081 --> 00:10:40,441 Speaker 1: where you played most of your footy and everybody knows 218 00:10:40,481 --> 00:10:43,161 Speaker 1: who BT is. You know, like your pitches are all 219 00:10:43,201 --> 00:10:46,281 Speaker 1: over the walls. You've had the highest attributes there. You know, 220 00:10:46,361 --> 00:10:49,161 Speaker 1: you've had your ass handed tears in seasons and you've 221 00:10:49,201 --> 00:10:52,521 Speaker 1: played with some amazing people and everybody loves you because 222 00:10:52,521 --> 00:10:55,121 Speaker 1: you're just bloody, a good old, straight down the line bloke, 223 00:10:55,721 --> 00:11:00,241 Speaker 1: and you choose to just constantly not live in that 224 00:11:00,401 --> 00:11:03,521 Speaker 1: space but give, give, give, And that's something that I've 225 00:11:03,521 --> 00:11:06,321 Speaker 1: always loved and been proud of you before. Is just 226 00:11:06,361 --> 00:11:09,441 Speaker 1: a commitment. You're always going over and above. I can 227 00:11:09,481 --> 00:11:14,121 Speaker 1: personally say that some years ago and always in my hardships, 228 00:11:14,161 --> 00:11:17,361 Speaker 1: you reached out to me, both myself and well yourself 229 00:11:17,401 --> 00:11:18,401 Speaker 1: and your beautiful wife. 230 00:11:18,921 --> 00:11:21,641 Speaker 4: And I'll never forget was going through a very rough something. 231 00:11:21,761 --> 00:11:24,001 Speaker 1: Was just after I had actually got out of jail, 232 00:11:24,401 --> 00:11:28,041 Speaker 1: just finished six years and you know, we financially were struggling, 233 00:11:28,081 --> 00:11:30,481 Speaker 1: and both of you said, look, come and have a 234 00:11:30,561 --> 00:11:32,801 Speaker 1: chat with us. And you guys were on a different 235 00:11:32,841 --> 00:11:36,921 Speaker 1: journey at that stage, small business doing some great things 236 00:11:37,001 --> 00:11:39,801 Speaker 1: at that time, and you opened a door and an 237 00:11:39,801 --> 00:11:42,681 Speaker 1: offering to help me. And I don't forget any of 238 00:11:42,721 --> 00:11:45,161 Speaker 1: those sort of things, you know, and they're very special. 239 00:11:46,041 --> 00:11:48,161 Speaker 1: The one thing I would like to talk about first 240 00:11:48,201 --> 00:11:51,481 Speaker 1: of all, you as a man, and how you're still 241 00:11:51,521 --> 00:11:55,401 Speaker 1: here today because you went through an extremely tough time 242 00:11:55,441 --> 00:11:58,801 Speaker 1: with your mental health and by rights, you probably shouldn't 243 00:11:58,801 --> 00:12:01,761 Speaker 1: be here. Are you comfortable to talk to the people 244 00:12:01,761 --> 00:12:04,681 Speaker 1: about that, because I feel that the value in your 245 00:12:04,721 --> 00:12:08,121 Speaker 1: still brother could help somebody that's listening today. 246 00:12:08,681 --> 00:12:12,481 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think, like starting back when it happened, 247 00:12:12,561 --> 00:12:16,001 Speaker 6: like because I worked in the foundry in Corumbin and 248 00:12:16,041 --> 00:12:18,881 Speaker 6: then I had a workplace accident there, right, and you 249 00:12:18,921 --> 00:12:21,521 Speaker 6: know what the law and work cover and all that's like, 250 00:12:21,641 --> 00:12:25,281 Speaker 6: So they're constantly just watching how them doing all that stuff. 251 00:12:25,361 --> 00:12:28,761 Speaker 6: And then I lost movement in my left hand. I 252 00:12:28,881 --> 00:12:32,241 Speaker 6: ruptured like the Yeller nerve, so three of my fingers 253 00:12:32,281 --> 00:12:35,361 Speaker 6: on my left hand don't work. So they were like, 254 00:12:35,401 --> 00:12:36,841 Speaker 6: I would never be the same. You won't be able 255 00:12:36,881 --> 00:12:39,161 Speaker 6: to play sport do all this stuff. And for me 256 00:12:39,281 --> 00:12:41,641 Speaker 6: that played sport, I think you just hit me. And 257 00:12:41,721 --> 00:12:44,161 Speaker 6: then and because someone tells you you can't do something 258 00:12:44,201 --> 00:12:46,321 Speaker 6: at that time, and you're in the bad headspace. 259 00:12:47,001 --> 00:12:48,721 Speaker 5: Then I was like, oh shit, you know what I mean, 260 00:12:49,081 --> 00:12:50,361 Speaker 5: that's the end. What am I going to do? 261 00:12:51,081 --> 00:12:53,601 Speaker 6: So it kind of unraveled and I got to this 262 00:12:53,761 --> 00:12:56,521 Speaker 6: stage like where I was, yeah, like severely depressed and 263 00:12:56,841 --> 00:12:59,881 Speaker 6: did silly stuff to get rid of like pain wise, right, 264 00:13:00,241 --> 00:13:02,721 Speaker 6: instead of like hurting other people. Then I would self 265 00:13:02,721 --> 00:13:05,001 Speaker 6: harm and do stuff like that. And like I don't 266 00:13:05,161 --> 00:13:06,681 Speaker 6: like to say it out loud because I don't want 267 00:13:06,681 --> 00:13:09,321 Speaker 6: people to be triggered or anything like that, but it 268 00:13:09,441 --> 00:13:11,161 Speaker 6: was a part of a thing, and it's kind of 269 00:13:11,161 --> 00:13:15,481 Speaker 6: what got me through in some days. But in saying that, 270 00:13:15,481 --> 00:13:19,281 Speaker 6: that was probably the bottom of the barrel. And then 271 00:13:19,401 --> 00:13:22,241 Speaker 6: after that, like now, I tell you, like it took 272 00:13:22,241 --> 00:13:24,601 Speaker 6: me a while, but I tried to find something that 273 00:13:24,721 --> 00:13:28,081 Speaker 6: was creative and that was positive. So I took up 274 00:13:28,121 --> 00:13:30,281 Speaker 6: like photography because I could hold the camera and do 275 00:13:30,321 --> 00:13:33,601 Speaker 6: stuff like that. And then my wife at the time 276 00:13:33,761 --> 00:13:36,401 Speaker 6: was a pt and owned a gym, so she's like, 277 00:13:36,481 --> 00:13:39,281 Speaker 6: let's get you into some rehabilitation do some stuff. And 278 00:13:39,721 --> 00:13:43,481 Speaker 6: started doing stuff with my hand and shoulders and just 279 00:13:43,561 --> 00:13:46,601 Speaker 6: everything to try and make areas around it stronger. Then 280 00:13:46,681 --> 00:13:49,481 Speaker 6: after a certain amount of time, I got back to playing, 281 00:13:49,481 --> 00:13:52,281 Speaker 6: I was tag and then I represented austrain Indigenous. 282 00:13:52,361 --> 00:13:52,881 Speaker 1: I was tag. 283 00:13:53,121 --> 00:13:55,121 Speaker 6: So all the things that people told me I couldn't do, 284 00:13:55,441 --> 00:13:57,481 Speaker 6: I got back and was doing. I think that was 285 00:13:57,521 --> 00:14:00,161 Speaker 6: the lead thing that showed me a space where I 286 00:14:00,201 --> 00:14:02,801 Speaker 6: was like, they told me I've got a limit of 287 00:14:02,881 --> 00:14:05,761 Speaker 6: two point five, I'm going to test that, lin. So 288 00:14:05,961 --> 00:14:08,201 Speaker 6: even now when I go back to gym, I still 289 00:14:08,241 --> 00:14:10,841 Speaker 6: remember they're like, you're only ever going to be able 290 00:14:10,881 --> 00:14:13,721 Speaker 6: to lift two point five if that. Well, now I 291 00:14:13,841 --> 00:14:15,801 Speaker 6: go back to gym and like, it ain't big, right, 292 00:14:16,121 --> 00:14:19,161 Speaker 6: but the dumbbell. For me, what I'm doing twenty five 293 00:14:19,241 --> 00:14:22,361 Speaker 6: kilo rows is fucking big. And that's me saying I 294 00:14:22,401 --> 00:14:25,361 Speaker 6: can do more than two point five kilos. No one's 295 00:14:25,361 --> 00:14:26,841 Speaker 6: going to tell me what I can and can't do. 296 00:14:27,521 --> 00:14:30,121 Speaker 6: So change number the whole mindset of what people tell 297 00:14:30,161 --> 00:14:33,001 Speaker 6: you to do. Don't always think that that's your cover, 298 00:14:33,161 --> 00:14:36,081 Speaker 6: that's all you can do. Because the human brain is 299 00:14:36,121 --> 00:14:39,161 Speaker 6: a lot stronger than what we think. We can completely 300 00:14:39,321 --> 00:14:40,481 Speaker 6: change our whole life. 301 00:14:41,081 --> 00:14:41,841 Speaker 4: I love it, Brad. 302 00:14:41,921 --> 00:14:44,001 Speaker 1: And you know, like I said before, we had a 303 00:14:44,121 --> 00:14:47,641 Speaker 1: very deep dn M, you and I and we recorded 304 00:14:47,641 --> 00:14:50,361 Speaker 1: it and I actually still have that footage and I'll 305 00:14:50,361 --> 00:14:53,441 Speaker 1: always keep it close just to my heart because it's 306 00:14:53,841 --> 00:14:56,761 Speaker 1: it's such a special thing to look back on in 307 00:14:56,841 --> 00:14:59,161 Speaker 1: honor of the men that you are today and a 308 00:14:59,201 --> 00:15:03,841 Speaker 1: fine example of never giving up. Oh yeah, I remember 309 00:15:03,881 --> 00:15:07,921 Speaker 1: seeing you, know your face and even speaking the way 310 00:15:08,001 --> 00:15:10,561 Speaker 1: you speak now, the way your face is, the way 311 00:15:10,961 --> 00:15:13,841 Speaker 1: you smile, you know, the way you hold yourself. You 312 00:15:13,881 --> 00:15:17,161 Speaker 1: weren't doing that. You couldn't hold a conversation and you 313 00:15:17,201 --> 00:15:20,521 Speaker 1: were like this shy little brother from our bush that 314 00:15:20,641 --> 00:15:22,441 Speaker 1: just came in and you know, like I come in 315 00:15:22,481 --> 00:15:24,521 Speaker 1: off the miss some of them and they're back into 316 00:15:24,561 --> 00:15:26,641 Speaker 1: the city and they're all just like real shut down. 317 00:15:27,081 --> 00:15:29,721 Speaker 1: That was how you work, and you were I was. 318 00:15:29,681 --> 00:15:30,961 Speaker 5: A completely different person. 319 00:15:31,041 --> 00:15:33,881 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were just you, just you were here, but 320 00:15:33,961 --> 00:15:34,841 Speaker 1: you weren't here brother. 321 00:15:35,321 --> 00:15:35,921 Speaker 4: Yeah. 322 00:15:36,001 --> 00:15:38,201 Speaker 6: I think what they say that like you're like a 323 00:15:38,201 --> 00:15:41,321 Speaker 6: shell of yourself, which is kind of what I was. 324 00:15:41,561 --> 00:15:43,521 Speaker 6: I was like even embarrassed to see some of my 325 00:15:43,561 --> 00:15:46,201 Speaker 6: best mates that I knew for like since I went 326 00:15:46,241 --> 00:15:47,001 Speaker 6: to primary school. 327 00:15:47,201 --> 00:15:48,761 Speaker 5: But there was probably like a couple. 328 00:15:48,481 --> 00:15:51,121 Speaker 6: Of turning points where one day my wife got one 329 00:15:51,161 --> 00:15:52,641 Speaker 6: of my best mates to come over. 330 00:15:52,801 --> 00:15:56,761 Speaker 5: And that was one and then another day was with like. 331 00:15:56,761 --> 00:15:58,681 Speaker 6: Because at the point where I was real I was 332 00:15:58,681 --> 00:16:02,321 Speaker 6: seeing like psychiatrists and a psychologist like in a mental 333 00:16:02,361 --> 00:16:02,921 Speaker 6: health clinic. 334 00:16:03,401 --> 00:16:04,561 Speaker 5: So it was like doubling up. 335 00:16:05,201 --> 00:16:07,561 Speaker 6: Even too scared to hold paper clips at one time, 336 00:16:08,001 --> 00:16:10,561 Speaker 6: simply because I would fear that I would use them 337 00:16:10,601 --> 00:16:13,721 Speaker 6: to do something. That's how crazy I was in my mind. 338 00:16:14,041 --> 00:16:16,641 Speaker 6: And then because of the injury, they tried to give 339 00:16:16,641 --> 00:16:20,361 Speaker 6: me epilepsy tablets, right, and then when they did, it 340 00:16:20,481 --> 00:16:23,841 Speaker 6: caused me to have these daylight and visions that were crazy, 341 00:16:23,921 --> 00:16:26,241 Speaker 6: like seeing bodies on the side of the road or 342 00:16:26,281 --> 00:16:29,561 Speaker 6: little kids or like it was random. So after taking that, 343 00:16:29,761 --> 00:16:32,441 Speaker 6: I called them. I just went myself cold turk, and 344 00:16:32,441 --> 00:16:34,801 Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm not taking that shit. There's a fucking 345 00:16:34,801 --> 00:16:37,481 Speaker 6: another way. I just tried to get back into like 346 00:16:37,881 --> 00:16:41,401 Speaker 6: physical stuff from walking and every day I was like 347 00:16:41,921 --> 00:16:45,601 Speaker 6: behind the camera, right, capturing something that's beautiful all the time, 348 00:16:45,681 --> 00:16:48,561 Speaker 6: like a positive image. That's what I wanted to capture 349 00:16:48,881 --> 00:16:51,681 Speaker 6: the whole time. So I trained my brain to then go, 350 00:16:52,161 --> 00:16:55,041 Speaker 6: you know what, I'm looking for the fucking positive every day. 351 00:16:55,441 --> 00:16:58,161 Speaker 6: I'm going to stop looking for the negative, because when 352 00:16:58,161 --> 00:17:00,961 Speaker 6: we get down that road, we always look for a negative, right, 353 00:17:01,481 --> 00:17:03,241 Speaker 6: where I'm telling you, Now, if we get up every 354 00:17:03,241 --> 00:17:06,041 Speaker 6: morning and we look for positive and we start up 355 00:17:06,121 --> 00:17:08,721 Speaker 6: day that way, you again have a fucking way better day. 356 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:10,961 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've been in a bit of a 357 00:17:11,041 --> 00:17:13,241 Speaker 1: rut the last couple of weeks, just with injury, and 358 00:17:13,281 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get myself around it. I've got severe 359 00:17:15,441 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: nerve pain arthritis through my hips, and I'm not running. 360 00:17:19,241 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: I haven't run familiar month, which is as you know, 361 00:17:21,801 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: my wellness. And I'm away very early in the morning 362 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: because i have insomnia. And I've always thought, okay, well. 363 00:17:28,561 --> 00:17:29,521 Speaker 4: I'm up, I'm out. 364 00:17:29,801 --> 00:17:32,001 Speaker 1: I'm going to go walk or run, and I'm going 365 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: to rise with the sun, you know, And that was 366 00:17:34,201 --> 00:17:37,561 Speaker 1: my thing to be present when the sun rises because 367 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,321 Speaker 1: of the day was going to be a good day. 368 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,041 Speaker 1: I felt just this different feeling across my mental space 369 00:17:44,481 --> 00:17:45,481 Speaker 1: and me in general. 370 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,281 Speaker 4: You know, I just felt alive. I felt just good. 371 00:17:48,321 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, sure, I only slept for x amoun hours, 372 00:17:50,721 --> 00:17:53,321 Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because I knew that I'd started 373 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:55,761 Speaker 1: my day the right way. You know. You talk about 374 00:17:55,761 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: your photography, and I just had a flashback and I 375 00:17:58,721 --> 00:18:02,121 Speaker 1: remember standing. So I had some photos done Brad did 376 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: some professional photos of myself. I was training to become 377 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,881 Speaker 1: the first person in the world to cycle across Australia 378 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: from Snapper Rocks on the Gold Coast to Codoslow Beach 379 00:18:11,681 --> 00:18:16,041 Speaker 1: in Perth, which I accomplished very proudly. But leading up 380 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,561 Speaker 1: to that, Brad had a really big part of a 381 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: section of that which captured some of those moments leading 382 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,321 Speaker 1: into that training. He came down with the camera. He said, right, 383 00:18:27,521 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: we're going to get some some cool shots here, and 384 00:18:29,961 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: we did a couple of shuits together, didn't we We 385 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,001 Speaker 1: did another one at Cooley, the back Lane way, and 386 00:18:35,041 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: then we did the cane fields and there is a 387 00:18:37,761 --> 00:18:41,281 Speaker 1: shot of me looking directly up these cane fields. Now, 388 00:18:41,281 --> 00:18:44,521 Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, Tomiwen Mountain in 389 00:18:44,801 --> 00:18:47,481 Speaker 1: a massive mountain and then you've got mount warnings surrounding 390 00:18:47,681 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: the beautiful Woolen Bar. 391 00:18:49,681 --> 00:18:51,401 Speaker 4: In the Bungelung country. 392 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,681 Speaker 1: The side roads are just when they're grown massive, massive 393 00:18:55,721 --> 00:18:58,881 Speaker 1: cane fields, so you get lost very quickly. But had 394 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,321 Speaker 1: it's supplied a tunnel and here I am with my 395 00:19:02,441 --> 00:19:05,481 Speaker 1: back and I had my clothing brand and our motto 396 00:19:05,561 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: was Yanna ya and a you are not alone and 397 00:19:08,801 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: I had my back to the camera with our logo 398 00:19:12,561 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: on the back, and I had my bike on my shoulders, 399 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,921 Speaker 1: and it was like I was just walking into this 400 00:19:18,961 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: tunnel with this message that you were not alonely. 401 00:19:21,201 --> 00:19:24,361 Speaker 8: Remember that photo you took, it just said so many 402 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 8: I say, you know, a picture says a thousand words, 403 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,241 Speaker 8: and that has just forever been etched into my mind. 404 00:19:31,281 --> 00:19:34,001 Speaker 1: In fact, I'll probably throw it off this week, just 405 00:19:34,001 --> 00:19:36,521 Speaker 1: just just to have a flashback because it is such 406 00:19:36,521 --> 00:19:39,001 Speaker 1: a special moment. You know, Like there was a great 407 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,561 Speaker 1: group of photos that we took, but that one particular 408 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,921 Speaker 1: one that you took of me, it was just an 409 00:19:44,961 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: amazing photo and it just said so much. And the 410 00:19:48,201 --> 00:19:51,801 Speaker 1: passion that you put into your photography was next level 411 00:19:52,041 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: because you know, you sort of took on something that 412 00:19:54,961 --> 00:19:58,201 Speaker 1: was a challenge that you enjoyed that you become very 413 00:19:58,241 --> 00:20:01,561 Speaker 1: good at. But once again, it evolved around art. 414 00:20:02,321 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think too, like with the art, as you 415 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 6: get to use your brain, you know, for creative stuff, 416 00:20:08,441 --> 00:20:10,601 Speaker 6: like I was saying, it does train you to look 417 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,561 Speaker 6: at the beautiful side of life and the positive stuff, 418 00:20:14,921 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 6: not always the dark. 419 00:20:16,441 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 5: You've got to do it. 420 00:20:17,441 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 6: The more you do it, I know it's hard like 421 00:20:19,561 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 6: in today's day and age, you know, like there's always 422 00:20:22,801 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 6: stuff going on. But if you've got to turn the 423 00:20:24,761 --> 00:20:27,041 Speaker 6: TV off for a while and just get down the beach, 424 00:20:27,481 --> 00:20:30,761 Speaker 6: go have a swim, Like watch the sunset. There's so 425 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,561 Speaker 6: much cool shoot out there that you don't see, you 426 00:20:32,561 --> 00:20:33,761 Speaker 6: if you just lock yourself away. 427 00:20:34,921 --> 00:20:37,201 Speaker 1: Brother. The kids just said to me before, they said, Dad, 428 00:20:37,241 --> 00:20:39,601 Speaker 1: you've you know, you've been recording podcasts after. 429 00:20:39,441 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 4: And what's for dinner? 430 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:42,401 Speaker 1: What are we doing? You know, I said, you know what, 431 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: We're going to go and sit and watch the sunset 432 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,481 Speaker 1: and grab a pizza and share it. That's mad about 433 00:20:47,561 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: in prospective that that right there, what you just said 434 00:20:50,561 --> 00:20:53,001 Speaker 1: is so relevant. And that's how I feel right now. 435 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: Is you know, I've been cooped up for the last 436 00:20:55,481 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: four or five hours. I spent eight hours yesterday volunteering 437 00:20:58,921 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: for a men's mental health charity event. 438 00:21:01,201 --> 00:21:04,561 Speaker 4: On the mic. You know, just going and watching that sunset. 439 00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:08,201 Speaker 1: I will give me this, this beautiful calmace coming back 440 00:21:08,241 --> 00:21:08,961 Speaker 1: into the home. 441 00:21:09,201 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: Let's say, hope to finish. 442 00:21:12,241 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: But in the big picture of things, it does. And 443 00:21:14,761 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: I think if everybody took a moment to just appreciate, 444 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,321 Speaker 1: like you said, the vision of beauty of what we 445 00:21:20,681 --> 00:21:24,161 Speaker 1: do see, because we all do focus on the negativity. 446 00:21:24,321 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: And this is about you and your journey. You know 447 00:21:26,441 --> 00:21:29,001 Speaker 1: you were looking at such darkness to the point where 448 00:21:29,681 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: you didn't want to be here, that's all you know. 449 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: I remember you breaking down and just just telling me 450 00:21:36,001 --> 00:21:38,801 Speaker 1: you were done. You know you couldn't see it out 451 00:21:40,001 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: now putting that in perspective, how looking back on that 452 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,761 Speaker 1: now and look you still and we all do still 453 00:21:47,801 --> 00:21:50,561 Speaker 1: going to have up and down days. But Brad's also 454 00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:54,481 Speaker 1: a dad, an amazing father, And how does that make 455 00:21:54,521 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: you feel? Thinking? Because obviously you wouldn't have this conversation 456 00:21:58,281 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: a lot. I wanted to be very conscious about our 457 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: conversations today and not be triggering. I think that you, 458 00:22:05,281 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: as a man, have become strong enough for us to 459 00:22:07,281 --> 00:22:09,801 Speaker 1: have this dialogue right now. So thank you for allowing 460 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,561 Speaker 1: me to have you publicly speaking about this. Because you 461 00:22:12,561 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: have adult children that no doubt we'll probably listen to this. 462 00:22:16,521 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: I hope they're doing a big shout out. How do 463 00:22:18,921 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: you think you would have felt if you had gone 464 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: down that road and things have been different? And okay, 465 00:22:26,521 --> 00:22:29,561 Speaker 1: let me just say you didn't leave us, but you 466 00:22:29,681 --> 00:22:33,801 Speaker 1: left yourself with permanent damage or injuries or mental health issues. 467 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: You were never going to come back from the detrimental 468 00:22:36,961 --> 00:22:37,881 Speaker 1: effect that they would. 469 00:22:37,681 --> 00:22:39,361 Speaker 4: Have had on your beautiful wife and children. 470 00:22:40,041 --> 00:22:43,721 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was kind of lucky at that stage 471 00:22:43,721 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 6: because the daughter was still like a younger, you know. 472 00:22:46,281 --> 00:22:48,521 Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, my wife, she was there the whole 473 00:22:48,521 --> 00:22:50,761 Speaker 6: time and just start through it. And it was funny 474 00:22:50,761 --> 00:22:53,001 Speaker 6: because one day we were just like it would have 475 00:22:53,001 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 6: been going on for nearly two years. I reckon, and 476 00:22:55,921 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 6: she goes, we just can't keep doing this, Like you 477 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,241 Speaker 6: just can't keep doing this, And it. 478 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: Was that as well. There was many little steps along. 479 00:23:02,681 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 6: The way, but having my mindset like I have, like 480 00:23:06,201 --> 00:23:07,801 Speaker 6: I knew I had it in the back of my 481 00:23:07,921 --> 00:23:12,161 Speaker 6: mind when she said that, I'm like, that's it, it's 482 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 6: got to change. But I did that old weird like 483 00:23:15,721 --> 00:23:19,641 Speaker 6: people might say, this sounds like bullshit, But one day 484 00:23:19,681 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 6: at a time, that's that's your key, one hundred percent. 485 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,721 Speaker 6: If you can do one day at a time, every 486 00:23:24,721 --> 00:23:27,121 Speaker 6: morning you get up, you've got a brand new day, 487 00:23:27,481 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: and you shouldn't take that for granted. As we get older, 488 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,001 Speaker 6: like I remember when I was a young fellow, real 489 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 6: young I'd be like, oh, you know, I'm never going 490 00:23:35,001 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 6: to be like those lads or the older followers. And 491 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 6: it's not sad getting older, but it fucking is because 492 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,481 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, Hipty, of your friends you still 493 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,521 Speaker 6: they might not be here. 494 00:23:44,441 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: Anymore, which is exactly what has happened. It has happened. 495 00:23:48,241 --> 00:23:51,001 Speaker 1: It's happened, you know so many times too, whether it's 496 00:23:51,041 --> 00:23:52,681 Speaker 1: some great man that we both know. 497 00:23:52,761 --> 00:23:57,001 Speaker 6: And yeah, so I don't know. Man, I try and 498 00:23:57,041 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 6: make sure everything is. I'm very calm now with everything 499 00:23:59,721 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 6: I do and deliver, especially because I'm surrounded by a 500 00:24:02,721 --> 00:24:07,801 Speaker 6: house full of girls right when I deliver stuff to them. 501 00:24:08,041 --> 00:24:10,361 Speaker 6: I'm not going to yell at them and carry on, 502 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 6: but I will try and talk to them in a 503 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 6: good manner. And you know, ask it the arrival or 504 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 6: is there something we can do? Or if the situation 505 00:24:19,561 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 6: is ship, how can we change it? How can we 506 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 6: make it better? So I think I've learned so much 507 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,401 Speaker 6: like in that time and I probably not needed that, 508 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,001 Speaker 6: but being at that level where I was to coming out, 509 00:24:31,001 --> 00:24:33,041 Speaker 6: now I can do anything. 510 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: Now I want to say a big shout out and 511 00:24:35,801 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not going to unless I'll let 512 00:24:37,801 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: you speak her name because I think out of respect. 513 00:24:40,681 --> 00:24:46,321 Speaker 1: But your beautiful wife, she has just been an absolute 514 00:24:46,481 --> 00:24:47,721 Speaker 1: soldier and I've seen it. 515 00:24:47,721 --> 00:24:51,281 Speaker 4: First team, the commitment and love. She's a weapon that 516 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:54,001 Speaker 4: she is putting, and she's. 517 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:57,801 Speaker 1: The hardest worker in the fucking room. You've got to 518 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,961 Speaker 1: be a worker now, Oh, without doubt and a big 519 00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:03,561 Speaker 1: shout out, she's. 520 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,001 Speaker 5: The one that she's the high on the camera person. 521 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: She's not like me, no, hence why I know that. 522 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,521 Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to disguise too much about 523 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: your father line like you're doing it. Next time she's 524 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,001 Speaker 1: save me, she'll just probably put one on my chin. 525 00:25:19,281 --> 00:25:20,001 Speaker 1: She's hilarious. 526 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: Oh she's a crack up. 527 00:25:21,961 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: But I know, like, how hard do you think it 528 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,801 Speaker 1: would have been for her to be able to watch 529 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: the man she loves, you know, and the man that 530 00:25:29,961 --> 00:25:34,521 Speaker 1: she fell in love with become totally different persons, because 531 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,561 Speaker 1: without her love and support, you may not have been here. 532 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: Because she grabbed your boy the ball, so to speak, 533 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,801 Speaker 1: and slapped you around the head and sort of said, hey, 534 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,601 Speaker 1: I'm here with you are weak in this together, Yeah, 535 00:25:46,681 --> 00:25:48,521 Speaker 1: let's work at getting you well. 536 00:25:49,001 --> 00:25:50,761 Speaker 5: Oh, it would have been devastating. 537 00:25:51,481 --> 00:25:54,041 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just don't even know, you know what I mean, 538 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 6: Like takes one tough woman to be able to do 539 00:25:57,201 --> 00:26:01,321 Speaker 6: that and loyal So for me like that loyalty, Oh, 540 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:02,881 Speaker 6: I would never cross that, you know what I mean. 541 00:26:02,921 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: She's my one, my only. Yeah, she's the fucking best. 542 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we forget about those people, and you know, 543 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,521 Speaker 1: me included not having immediate family as such other than 544 00:26:14,961 --> 00:26:18,241 Speaker 1: I guess your partner and your children, but the parental 545 00:26:18,321 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: thing or you know, the uncles and armies that are 546 00:26:20,801 --> 00:26:23,761 Speaker 1: close to or whatever. Some of us just don't have it, 547 00:26:23,961 --> 00:26:26,961 Speaker 1: even to the point of what your dad me with mum. 548 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,761 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have that. So yeah, you know 549 00:26:29,801 --> 00:26:33,281 Speaker 1: where do you turn? You know, like everybody has this. 550 00:26:33,681 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, mate, she'ld be right. Tomorrow's another day. 551 00:26:36,201 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: You'll get through it. And we had this conversation yesterday 552 00:26:39,281 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: at this event, something that I made very clear and 553 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,721 Speaker 1: people can say what they want about it, and I'll 554 00:26:44,721 --> 00:26:48,161 Speaker 1: tell you about just a little scenario at this event yesterday, 555 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,321 Speaker 1: and I seen these two influences that are very well known. Obviously, 556 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm on the MICA all day with Jay Phillips, with 557 00:26:56,801 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: my brother in law, and you know, we thoroughly enjoyed it. 558 00:27:00,521 --> 00:27:03,041 Speaker 4: But eight hours NonStop and we watched these two. 559 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Influences just straight around like they were just a shit. 560 00:27:06,921 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: And at no stage did they want to come up 561 00:27:10,441 --> 00:27:14,321 Speaker 1: and introduce themselves to us or talk about men's mental 562 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,201 Speaker 1: health in any way, shape or form. But yet they 563 00:27:17,201 --> 00:27:20,561 Speaker 1: publicly get on their pages and they sprewk themselves up 564 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,281 Speaker 1: and they're doing their funny skits. 565 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:24,801 Speaker 4: But it couldn't be bothered to give us two minutes 566 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,241 Speaker 4: of their time. 567 00:27:25,281 --> 00:27:26,801 Speaker 1: Now, I wasn't going to run over with the mark 568 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: and go, oh hey, someone say here you go. We 569 00:27:29,561 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: are there as men for exactly what we're here talking 570 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: about today. We lose too many and women. I think 571 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,761 Speaker 1: now we can openly speak men and women, but we 572 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: lose too many good humans through mental health decisions. You know, 573 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,561 Speaker 1: they take a short term fixture thinking that it's going 574 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: to fix a long term problem when it's not. It 575 00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:51,521 Speaker 1: leaves everybody with a life sentence behind that does care 576 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: and he's there for you and to love you. I 577 00:27:55,241 --> 00:27:58,241 Speaker 1: get really pissed because people do this are UOK. Day, 578 00:27:58,321 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you'll be all right. You know, we do this 579 00:28:00,241 --> 00:28:02,841 Speaker 1: November Day, you know, what my attitude is, stick them 580 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: fucking right up your ass. And how about every single 581 00:28:05,521 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: fucking day you'd be conscious about asking somebody are you okay? 582 00:28:10,561 --> 00:28:13,561 Speaker 1: Or just being observant. I mean, I walk around my kid. 583 00:28:13,681 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: My kids have been raised to walk around and if 584 00:28:15,921 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: they says someone in the playground, it might not be 585 00:28:17,761 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: there buddy, or they'll just go up and sit down 586 00:28:19,761 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: this and hey mate, are you okay? And ask that question. 587 00:28:23,241 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: You and I both know, bro, that moment you're not 588 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,201 Speaker 1: thinking about anything other than getting away from the pain, 589 00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:32,001 Speaker 1: that won't leave your mind. So that if somebody was 590 00:28:32,041 --> 00:28:35,001 Speaker 1: able to come up to you and re trigger your 591 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,481 Speaker 1: thought pattern by just asking are you okay? Or hey, buddy, 592 00:28:38,521 --> 00:28:40,481 Speaker 1: what's going on? You don't look good? Or if it's 593 00:28:40,521 --> 00:28:42,641 Speaker 1: a mate, hey I'm coming to grabby. 594 00:28:42,361 --> 00:28:43,121 Speaker 4: We're going for a walk on. 595 00:28:43,121 --> 00:28:45,681 Speaker 1: The beach, kick a footy, whatever, whatever it might be, 596 00:28:45,761 --> 00:28:47,921 Speaker 1: have a feed out of coffee, who cares what it is. 597 00:28:48,401 --> 00:28:54,401 Speaker 1: But taking that initial moment to just say hey I'm here, bro. Yah. Yeah. 598 00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:57,081 Speaker 1: You know people these days, you know, it's all so 599 00:28:57,161 --> 00:28:59,561 Speaker 1: easy to talk about it, but take action. And I'm 600 00:28:59,561 --> 00:29:02,201 Speaker 1: massive on this action word because that is my life. 601 00:29:02,561 --> 00:29:04,561 Speaker 1: If I'm going to do something. I take action. Yeah, 602 00:29:04,761 --> 00:29:07,481 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like yourself now with everything you're doing 603 00:29:07,521 --> 00:29:10,601 Speaker 1: with the young people today, it is action. You're turning up, 604 00:29:10,641 --> 00:29:13,881 Speaker 1: you're being present, You're giving your best to those young 605 00:29:13,921 --> 00:29:16,681 Speaker 1: people to be the best that they can be, believe 606 00:29:16,721 --> 00:29:20,601 Speaker 1: in themselves, having that one percent better everyday attitude. 607 00:29:21,001 --> 00:29:21,801 Speaker 5: Yeah. 608 00:29:21,841 --> 00:29:24,401 Speaker 6: I love the words you use to like because I 609 00:29:24,441 --> 00:29:26,841 Speaker 6: always say to the girls and that as well, like 610 00:29:27,041 --> 00:29:28,841 Speaker 6: I want you to believe in yourself, but I'm like, 611 00:29:29,561 --> 00:29:30,321 Speaker 6: I believe in you. 612 00:29:30,761 --> 00:29:32,841 Speaker 5: We believe in you. Like it's positive reinforcement. 613 00:29:32,881 --> 00:29:33,361 Speaker 4: I'm telling you. 614 00:29:33,801 --> 00:29:35,841 Speaker 6: The more you can do it that might change someone's 615 00:29:35,921 --> 00:29:39,441 Speaker 6: mindset from someone that doesn't have that support where and 616 00:29:39,481 --> 00:29:42,281 Speaker 6: even with my mates right like some of my closest ones, 617 00:29:42,321 --> 00:29:44,441 Speaker 6: they might go through hard stuff and that. But I'll 618 00:29:44,441 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: tell you what if you have a good circle and 619 00:29:46,241 --> 00:29:48,881 Speaker 6: they just text you out of the blue and they're like, Rah, 620 00:29:49,081 --> 00:29:50,401 Speaker 6: we're going to go what's the footy? 621 00:29:50,441 --> 00:29:51,041 Speaker 5: Would you like to. 622 00:29:50,961 --> 00:29:52,961 Speaker 6: Come or whatever? Like, it can change your whole week, 623 00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:56,521 Speaker 6: can change you that you feel, and shit, it's a 624 00:29:56,521 --> 00:29:58,921 Speaker 6: simple thing to do. Like I always go to. 625 00:29:58,801 --> 00:30:00,441 Speaker 5: My mates, I'm like, what are you doing? 626 00:30:00,561 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 6: Or they'll message and go oh, you want to go 627 00:30:02,761 --> 00:30:04,401 Speaker 6: for a feedbra, And I'm like, yeah, sweet. 628 00:30:04,441 --> 00:30:06,161 Speaker 5: When I leave them, I love your brother. Oh, I 629 00:30:06,281 --> 00:30:08,041 Speaker 5: see my boys, I love them, you know, I makers 630 00:30:08,201 --> 00:30:08,761 Speaker 5: same same. 631 00:30:08,961 --> 00:30:12,281 Speaker 4: You don't know yep. And I think that's so important. 632 00:30:12,361 --> 00:30:13,241 Speaker 5: It's not embarrassing. 633 00:30:13,361 --> 00:30:15,761 Speaker 1: No, And you know, like hearing that from another man 634 00:30:15,881 --> 00:30:18,081 Speaker 1: like you know me, I'll always give a brother a hug. 635 00:30:18,201 --> 00:30:20,001 Speaker 1: I don't care in public. Oh kiss a brother la 636 00:30:20,081 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: on the cheek, I say, proud of I love you, bro, 637 00:30:22,521 --> 00:30:24,841 Speaker 1: And you know what I mean that. And it's something 638 00:30:24,921 --> 00:30:27,921 Speaker 1: that I feel that it just has such a positive 639 00:30:27,961 --> 00:30:31,321 Speaker 1: impact on people's lives, and it's something that we must 640 00:30:31,641 --> 00:30:34,641 Speaker 1: be more conscious of because all the words in the 641 00:30:34,681 --> 00:30:37,921 Speaker 1: world mean fuck all. If you're not taking action and 642 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:41,201 Speaker 1: you're not actually being present and acknowledging what the true 643 00:30:41,321 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: situation is, or your bullshit little post and or your 644 00:30:44,521 --> 00:30:48,561 Speaker 1: chitter chat, it means nothing from seeing you. And this 645 00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: is the point of where I'm heading with all this, 646 00:30:50,281 --> 00:30:54,081 Speaker 1: because it is so relative to how you were knowing 647 00:30:54,561 --> 00:30:57,561 Speaker 1: how dark it was for you. Your world fell apart 648 00:30:58,201 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: from everything you knew because you're a part of a community, 649 00:31:01,681 --> 00:31:04,801 Speaker 1: your football, that was your life, you grew up, You 650 00:31:04,841 --> 00:31:06,161 Speaker 1: know the phone stopped ringing. 651 00:31:06,401 --> 00:31:08,961 Speaker 4: You get sick, you get ill, people think something's wrong 652 00:31:09,001 --> 00:31:10,521 Speaker 4: with you. People drop off. 653 00:31:11,001 --> 00:31:13,161 Speaker 1: You start to sort of question your own sort of 654 00:31:13,201 --> 00:31:13,881 Speaker 1: worth and stuff. 655 00:31:13,961 --> 00:31:15,761 Speaker 4: Oh have I even got a mate? 656 00:31:16,081 --> 00:31:19,241 Speaker 1: I don't get invited anywhere, but I've learned to go now, 657 00:31:19,361 --> 00:31:21,961 Speaker 1: well I don't care. Well, I care, but I don't 658 00:31:22,001 --> 00:31:24,041 Speaker 1: care to the point where I'm not going to do 659 00:31:24,081 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: my heading over it and think I will someone say 660 00:31:26,561 --> 00:31:28,641 Speaker 1: mustn't like me, or I mustn't be good enough to 661 00:31:28,641 --> 00:31:31,561 Speaker 1: be in this circle. Years ago, when I was running 662 00:31:31,561 --> 00:31:33,361 Speaker 1: around doing whatever I was doing, and I was the 663 00:31:33,401 --> 00:31:37,281 Speaker 1: fucking man, I was invited everywhere I was, I couldn't. 664 00:31:37,321 --> 00:31:39,201 Speaker 1: I couldn't fit in in a week or a weekend 665 00:31:39,281 --> 00:31:42,521 Speaker 1: the amount of invitations. Next minute, I'm pinched on a 666 00:31:42,561 --> 00:31:45,041 Speaker 1: fucking accessory to murder. Fighting for five years wearing an 667 00:31:45,041 --> 00:31:47,641 Speaker 1: ankle bracelet, and do you think I have got one 668 00:31:47,681 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: phone call from the people that I thought were my mates? Nothing? 669 00:31:51,681 --> 00:31:54,561 Speaker 1: You know, five years of walking the lonely road, and 670 00:31:54,601 --> 00:31:57,001 Speaker 1: it's a hard time. And I had many thoughts in 671 00:31:57,041 --> 00:31:59,561 Speaker 1: those five years to why go through this? 672 00:31:59,841 --> 00:32:00,761 Speaker 4: What's my purpose? 673 00:32:01,121 --> 00:32:05,601 Speaker 1: But thank god, people like yourself, you know, to connect 674 00:32:05,681 --> 00:32:08,161 Speaker 1: with my children are old enough to look at me 675 00:32:08,201 --> 00:32:10,001 Speaker 1: and say, hey, Dad, what's up? 676 00:32:10,641 --> 00:32:13,641 Speaker 4: And at that moment you realize, yeah, that's why. 677 00:32:13,481 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm here is for these young men and women that 678 00:32:16,641 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: are my children, you know what I mean? And I 679 00:32:19,001 --> 00:32:22,961 Speaker 1: know that you yourself, You've got a beautiful family. Let's 680 00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:26,041 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, moving forward on that because there's 681 00:32:26,041 --> 00:32:29,561 Speaker 1: so much positive in your life. You're a busy fucker man, brother, 682 00:32:30,761 --> 00:32:33,601 Speaker 1: You're a busy busy man. Like. Can we talk on 683 00:32:33,641 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: the secret of what might be happening with in around 684 00:32:37,481 --> 00:32:40,601 Speaker 1: women's rugby league or is that still very quiet at 685 00:32:40,601 --> 00:32:41,001 Speaker 1: the moment? 686 00:32:41,481 --> 00:32:42,801 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there may be. 687 00:32:43,321 --> 00:32:46,441 Speaker 6: The Tuban Seahawks love their first women's rugby league team. 688 00:32:46,521 --> 00:32:51,601 Speaker 6: Ever so luckily I'll be coaching that team there congratulations, 689 00:32:51,641 --> 00:32:53,841 Speaker 6: rounded by lots of kids right like I do, and 690 00:32:54,201 --> 00:32:56,761 Speaker 6: also have an Indigenous girls team as well that I 691 00:32:56,841 --> 00:32:59,881 Speaker 6: take the Queensland Murray Carnival and stuff like that. The 692 00:32:59,961 --> 00:33:03,481 Speaker 6: girls from this area now in that team there. It 693 00:33:03,561 --> 00:33:06,041 Speaker 6: don't quite me exactly, but there's around ten to twelve 694 00:33:06,081 --> 00:33:11,001 Speaker 6: kids that either in Brisbane Titans Bulldogs or Brewster's Academy 695 00:33:11,121 --> 00:33:14,561 Speaker 6: just from this local area. We're talking like sixteen year 696 00:33:14,601 --> 00:33:16,201 Speaker 6: olds to eighteen year olds. 697 00:33:16,241 --> 00:33:19,601 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you this too. This is 698 00:33:19,641 --> 00:33:21,761 Speaker 1: the other side of the commitment that I just want 699 00:33:21,761 --> 00:33:25,721 Speaker 1: people to understand. Can you just mathematically put it in? 700 00:33:26,361 --> 00:33:29,081 Speaker 1: How many kilometers once you're in season and training in 701 00:33:29,161 --> 00:33:34,361 Speaker 1: preseason that you're putting in weekly picking art, going to 702 00:33:34,681 --> 00:33:37,321 Speaker 1: coming home? And this is on top of your own 703 00:33:37,441 --> 00:33:40,401 Speaker 1: artwork that you are you know, like you've got commissioned pieces, 704 00:33:40,441 --> 00:33:43,761 Speaker 1: You've got art orders coming out of your backside that 705 00:33:43,881 --> 00:33:46,921 Speaker 1: take so long and so much of your top How 706 00:33:46,961 --> 00:33:49,601 Speaker 1: many kilometers a week do you reckon you do supporting 707 00:33:49,601 --> 00:33:52,641 Speaker 1: these young women and giving them their hope and dreams. 708 00:33:53,161 --> 00:33:54,081 Speaker 5: It would be huge. 709 00:33:54,321 --> 00:33:59,641 Speaker 6: Like you've got like Monday train and Wednesday train and Tuesday, 710 00:33:59,721 --> 00:34:02,401 Speaker 6: Thursday myself Saturday games that may. 711 00:34:02,241 --> 00:34:05,921 Speaker 5: Be in Brisbane or the north side of Brisbane. A 712 00:34:06,081 --> 00:34:07,121 Speaker 5: hundreds of k's a week. 713 00:34:07,561 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: But even the trainer, the trainer's not next door up 714 00:34:10,001 --> 00:34:12,281 Speaker 1: the road. Do you go on bloody what fifty sixty 715 00:34:12,361 --> 00:34:14,001 Speaker 1: seventy k's down south? 716 00:34:14,441 --> 00:34:17,601 Speaker 6: Well, you know, when my daughter was playing Further Titans 717 00:34:17,641 --> 00:34:20,721 Speaker 6: in Lismore, we're on an hour and a half drive down, 718 00:34:20,721 --> 00:34:22,321 Speaker 6: hour and a half back and then she trained there 719 00:34:22,321 --> 00:34:26,401 Speaker 6: for two hours so that was like a Sunday and 720 00:34:26,441 --> 00:34:27,081 Speaker 6: a Wednesday. 721 00:34:27,521 --> 00:34:29,761 Speaker 5: Now I have another young girl of Stacey. 722 00:34:30,001 --> 00:34:32,121 Speaker 6: She goes to Kebra, So I'll drop her at the 723 00:34:32,121 --> 00:34:34,761 Speaker 6: train station a varsity every morning and I go back 724 00:34:34,761 --> 00:34:36,721 Speaker 6: to my door. We'll take her to PBC because she 725 00:34:36,841 --> 00:34:39,361 Speaker 6: goes there, and then I'll do the same in the afternoon. 726 00:34:39,401 --> 00:34:42,921 Speaker 6: But then I also take her to seagulls training, which 727 00:34:43,001 --> 00:34:45,281 Speaker 6: is like twenty minutes down the road, and they train 728 00:34:45,361 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 6: there for two hours and then I come back. 729 00:34:47,281 --> 00:34:51,721 Speaker 5: And in between that man in my artwork and stuff 730 00:34:51,721 --> 00:34:55,641 Speaker 5: you don't want, and I also have like bulldogs and 731 00:34:55,761 --> 00:34:57,361 Speaker 5: McCaw cocker teel. 732 00:34:58,841 --> 00:35:03,921 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is absolute chaos, but you manage it so well. 733 00:35:03,961 --> 00:35:04,801 Speaker 1: You really do an end. 734 00:35:04,801 --> 00:35:06,681 Speaker 4: Look, it's not sort of hide from the truth. I'm 735 00:35:06,681 --> 00:35:08,321 Speaker 4: sure there's moments there where you put. 736 00:35:08,121 --> 00:35:10,201 Speaker 1: The hands in there and just go fuck, you know, 737 00:35:10,361 --> 00:35:11,441 Speaker 1: like you're only human. 738 00:35:12,161 --> 00:35:15,521 Speaker 6: But I think footy season sometimes of a night I 739 00:35:15,561 --> 00:35:16,761 Speaker 6: literally don't even get to that. 740 00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:19,001 Speaker 5: I come and eat and then share, and then I'm 741 00:35:19,041 --> 00:35:20,641 Speaker 5: like I'm out, I'm gone. 742 00:35:25,401 --> 00:35:27,041 Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't change it, to be honest with there, 743 00:35:27,041 --> 00:35:29,721 Speaker 6: because it keeps me going and keeps me moving and 744 00:35:29,881 --> 00:35:31,761 Speaker 6: keeps me in the footy scene, because you know, I 745 00:35:31,801 --> 00:35:34,721 Speaker 6: love the footy scene, and I'm lucky enough to have 746 00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:36,841 Speaker 6: a few friends like up in Brisbane and that so 747 00:35:36,921 --> 00:35:39,481 Speaker 6: we get to take some of the girls to physically 748 00:35:39,561 --> 00:35:42,041 Speaker 6: see what an NRL W day would be like. So 749 00:35:42,081 --> 00:35:44,121 Speaker 6: the girls can go in and view their stuff and 750 00:35:44,441 --> 00:35:46,681 Speaker 6: they get to meet some of the players, and so 751 00:35:46,801 --> 00:35:48,921 Speaker 6: I'm lucky in that respect as well, and I get 752 00:35:48,961 --> 00:35:51,241 Speaker 6: to hang around some of those awesome people. 753 00:35:51,841 --> 00:35:54,321 Speaker 1: You've also too, been very lucky enough to have some 754 00:35:54,401 --> 00:35:58,921 Speaker 1: of the amazing players in our NRL have your artwork 755 00:35:58,961 --> 00:35:59,721 Speaker 1: on their boots. 756 00:36:00,441 --> 00:36:01,801 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, boots, Yeah yeah. 757 00:36:02,081 --> 00:36:04,441 Speaker 6: Reno the place for the Broncos or Adam Reynolds of 758 00:36:04,481 --> 00:36:07,321 Speaker 6: the people name, he's got a few massive pieces in 759 00:36:07,481 --> 00:36:10,681 Speaker 6: his house there. Actually he's got Prince his daughters and 760 00:36:10,681 --> 00:36:13,841 Speaker 6: that have Prince as well in there. Lovely people. If 761 00:36:13,841 --> 00:36:17,161 Speaker 6: you haven't met n and his family, the best people ever, So. 762 00:36:17,521 --> 00:36:22,321 Speaker 1: You just yeah, it's phenomenal. I think the thing is 763 00:36:22,361 --> 00:36:25,841 Speaker 1: to watching the doors open for you, And I guess 764 00:36:25,881 --> 00:36:28,801 Speaker 1: that's you know where the words never give up, Because 765 00:36:29,281 --> 00:36:30,921 Speaker 1: let me ask you, did you ever think that you'd 766 00:36:30,921 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: be in the position that you're in now and that 767 00:36:33,081 --> 00:36:35,921 Speaker 1: you would be known as an indigenous artist and your 768 00:36:36,041 --> 00:36:38,481 Speaker 1: art would be in some of the most amazing places. 769 00:36:38,601 --> 00:36:42,401 Speaker 1: And we'll talk in a second about where they actually 770 00:36:42,481 --> 00:36:44,961 Speaker 1: are and what you have achieved through your art, because 771 00:36:44,961 --> 00:36:48,561 Speaker 1: that's phenomenal. Is it something that you still slap yourself 772 00:36:48,561 --> 00:36:51,641 Speaker 1: at times and go, wow, people loved. 773 00:36:51,481 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 6: What do I was only in bed this morning talking 774 00:36:55,521 --> 00:36:58,561 Speaker 6: to the wife and I'm like, I'm so grateful, Like 775 00:36:58,721 --> 00:37:00,561 Speaker 6: I love what I do every day and I would 776 00:37:00,601 --> 00:37:02,881 Speaker 6: never want to change it, Like I'll get to just 777 00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:07,001 Speaker 6: do all this cool stuffed all these awesome people and 778 00:37:07,081 --> 00:37:09,841 Speaker 6: even when I do like art shows or whatever and Sidney, 779 00:37:09,961 --> 00:37:12,401 Speaker 6: Melbourne and Brisbane, like it's the best thing ever. Like 780 00:37:12,481 --> 00:37:14,601 Speaker 6: people come up and they take photos with you and 781 00:37:14,641 --> 00:37:17,361 Speaker 6: do all stuff, and it's just a great feeling to 782 00:37:17,401 --> 00:37:19,881 Speaker 6: be surrounded by people that are happy and positive and 783 00:37:20,361 --> 00:37:23,321 Speaker 6: celebrate the artwork, you know, and what that artwork in 784 00:37:23,361 --> 00:37:23,761 Speaker 6: their house. 785 00:37:24,601 --> 00:37:26,881 Speaker 1: When you talk about artwork in the house, you've also 786 00:37:27,041 --> 00:37:34,521 Speaker 1: had commissioned work where you've been able to do doner covers, pillows, sheets, curtains. 787 00:37:34,601 --> 00:37:38,281 Speaker 1: Was it as well, Like let's talk about lamps. Can 788 00:37:38,321 --> 00:37:41,761 Speaker 1: we discuss the brands and the company that? Yeah, is 789 00:37:41,761 --> 00:37:43,041 Speaker 1: that Okay. 790 00:37:42,961 --> 00:37:46,081 Speaker 6: We had this thing right with and it was only 791 00:37:46,121 --> 00:37:49,281 Speaker 6: about I know, maybe eight months beforehand. My wife goes, 792 00:37:49,481 --> 00:37:51,441 Speaker 6: let's try and aim to do a She had all 793 00:37:51,481 --> 00:37:53,481 Speaker 6: these goals, let's try and get you to do a 794 00:37:53,561 --> 00:37:56,681 Speaker 6: thing with the Dares, and so like all the time, 795 00:37:56,721 --> 00:37:58,961 Speaker 6: I was like, let's do this, let's do that, and 796 00:37:59,001 --> 00:38:00,441 Speaker 6: I'm going to do it with the Dares. And then 797 00:38:01,001 --> 00:38:03,601 Speaker 6: eight months later they rang while I was out footage 798 00:38:03,601 --> 00:38:09,561 Speaker 6: training always foot track. It interested in doing it. So 799 00:38:09,601 --> 00:38:13,561 Speaker 6: I had a national campaign with Australia and New Zealand, 800 00:38:13,601 --> 00:38:16,481 Speaker 6: but it was when COVID hit, so it was only online, 801 00:38:16,801 --> 00:38:19,321 Speaker 6: but it was empty because it sold out like it 802 00:38:19,361 --> 00:38:23,121 Speaker 6: was the second fastest collab at that time to sell out, 803 00:38:23,521 --> 00:38:26,081 Speaker 6: like a record time. And it had like yeah, Doner's 804 00:38:26,201 --> 00:38:30,481 Speaker 6: bath mats, candles, lamps, everything. 805 00:38:30,121 --> 00:38:34,321 Speaker 5: Bro like clocks, wour clocks. It was crazy. The Dars 806 00:38:34,361 --> 00:38:35,001 Speaker 5: were amazing. 807 00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:38,521 Speaker 6: They did so much good stuff, Like they they learned 808 00:38:38,521 --> 00:38:41,721 Speaker 6: the Ugen Bear language to pronounce that for their customers 809 00:38:42,161 --> 00:38:44,561 Speaker 6: and so we had it on the tags. They had 810 00:38:44,601 --> 00:38:46,481 Speaker 6: all my stuff on there and they had Yuga Bear 811 00:38:46,561 --> 00:38:51,001 Speaker 6: language and English so people would represent an attached to 812 00:38:51,081 --> 00:38:56,641 Speaker 6: the artwork. I've also been lucky enough to do bed footwear. Now, 813 00:38:56,641 --> 00:38:59,521 Speaker 6: we only did three hundred pairs of them, and I've 814 00:38:59,561 --> 00:39:01,721 Speaker 6: got one pair of male shoes that have only been 815 00:39:01,721 --> 00:39:04,921 Speaker 6: made in their gold label with Brad Turnacy Future stuff. 816 00:39:05,521 --> 00:39:08,121 Speaker 6: But out of those three yeah, out of those three 817 00:39:08,241 --> 00:39:11,481 Speaker 6: hundred pairs, they sold them all. But every pair we 818 00:39:11,601 --> 00:39:15,041 Speaker 6: gave back fifty dollars charity to an indigenous charity. So 819 00:39:15,121 --> 00:39:17,041 Speaker 6: out of that one collabor we're able to give back 820 00:39:17,041 --> 00:39:19,601 Speaker 6: twenty one thousand, five hundred. I think it was to 821 00:39:20,001 --> 00:39:22,401 Speaker 6: an indigenous charity, which is something epic, you know what 822 00:39:22,401 --> 00:39:22,601 Speaker 6: I mean. 823 00:39:22,641 --> 00:39:24,521 Speaker 5: If I was doing a normal job, that'd be something. 824 00:39:24,361 --> 00:39:26,441 Speaker 4: I'd never be able to do phenomenon. 825 00:39:26,601 --> 00:39:27,121 Speaker 5: So I've done that. 826 00:39:27,241 --> 00:39:30,241 Speaker 6: I do like Bear and Boho, which are like nappies 827 00:39:30,401 --> 00:39:33,481 Speaker 6: and wet pack bags and all cool stuff. I've done 828 00:39:33,561 --> 00:39:38,161 Speaker 6: Billy Bones club and artwork for mayof Day. Oh mate, 829 00:39:38,481 --> 00:39:40,561 Speaker 6: the list goes on. That's crazy jerseys. 830 00:39:40,961 --> 00:39:44,361 Speaker 1: You know what I love too is just seeing and 831 00:39:44,441 --> 00:39:46,441 Speaker 1: for everybody out they'll get Brad to tell you what 832 00:39:46,601 --> 00:39:49,561 Speaker 1: he's actual insta page is because everyone and we'll put 833 00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:52,321 Speaker 1: it in the actual link, you know, go and have 834 00:39:52,401 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: a look at his artwork. It is and we only 835 00:39:55,521 --> 00:39:58,321 Speaker 1: spoke about this the other day. I've been around a 836 00:39:58,321 --> 00:40:01,841 Speaker 1: lot of Indigenous artwork. I grew up in an indigenous community. 837 00:40:02,121 --> 00:40:06,441 Speaker 1: I've seen traditional art, and this is just a whole 838 00:40:06,521 --> 00:40:11,321 Speaker 1: new level of Indigenous art. And there's just such a 839 00:40:11,521 --> 00:40:15,121 Speaker 1: uniqueness to it, such a flow to it that I 840 00:40:15,161 --> 00:40:18,201 Speaker 1: can't exactly put it into words. But it just actually 841 00:40:18,241 --> 00:40:21,241 Speaker 1: swarms with calmness it is when you look at it. 842 00:40:21,241 --> 00:40:24,081 Speaker 1: It's just the colors and the way that you paint 843 00:40:24,481 --> 00:40:29,001 Speaker 1: it represents like just a calm flow. It's not like 844 00:40:29,721 --> 00:40:32,401 Speaker 1: bang in your face, just sitting on the wall. It's 845 00:40:32,521 --> 00:40:34,321 Speaker 1: just there's something in it. 846 00:40:35,161 --> 00:40:35,561 Speaker 4: I don't know. 847 00:40:35,961 --> 00:40:38,601 Speaker 1: Like I said, I can't put it into words. Give 848 00:40:38,641 --> 00:40:41,321 Speaker 1: everybody you're right in your Instagram, Yeah. 849 00:40:41,241 --> 00:40:44,801 Speaker 6: So Brad Turner Creative and just yeah, jump on there 850 00:40:44,801 --> 00:40:46,681 Speaker 6: and have a look. They had lots of different stuff there, 851 00:40:47,441 --> 00:40:49,961 Speaker 6: but like you said, it's very calm, like that's kind 852 00:40:49,961 --> 00:40:51,481 Speaker 6: of something that I want to bring all the. 853 00:40:51,441 --> 00:40:53,161 Speaker 5: Time to people's houses and that. 854 00:40:53,881 --> 00:40:57,721 Speaker 6: And also there's always underlying layers, Like in my artworks, 855 00:40:57,721 --> 00:40:58,641 Speaker 6: there's probably about. 856 00:40:58,441 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 5: Five layers of backgrounds. 857 00:41:00,521 --> 00:41:04,881 Speaker 6: So over time you'll see when the light changes or whatever, 858 00:41:04,881 --> 00:41:07,121 Speaker 6: you will pick up different gold flex or you might 859 00:41:07,161 --> 00:41:10,481 Speaker 6: see it like smiles or like it's crazy where you'll 860 00:41:10,481 --> 00:41:13,401 Speaker 6: see heavy texture or you'll see no texture. It's just 861 00:41:14,201 --> 00:41:17,801 Speaker 6: bleeds in everywhere, and it's all completely different, but very calming. 862 00:41:17,881 --> 00:41:18,841 Speaker 6: It's not in your face. 863 00:41:20,081 --> 00:41:24,521 Speaker 1: Can I ask you? And I do understand indigenous culture 864 00:41:24,561 --> 00:41:27,561 Speaker 1: and I understand and they've learnt over the years to 865 00:41:27,601 --> 00:41:30,401 Speaker 1: be able to read certain artwork because obviously a lot 866 00:41:30,441 --> 00:41:34,961 Speaker 1: of it represents different dream time or you know, meeting places, 867 00:41:35,081 --> 00:41:41,641 Speaker 1: watering holes, activities and family. So I do understand all that. 868 00:41:42,401 --> 00:41:48,481 Speaker 1: I don't understand your art like I have a gift 869 00:41:48,521 --> 00:41:52,321 Speaker 1: of it, but it is just so unique that yeah, 870 00:41:52,481 --> 00:41:56,041 Speaker 1: I can read into it so many different ways. And 871 00:41:56,921 --> 00:41:59,641 Speaker 1: what is it the right way? Like where do you 872 00:41:59,721 --> 00:42:04,961 Speaker 1: get the inspiration to continually bring something fresh and evail 873 00:42:05,321 --> 00:42:09,561 Speaker 1: that changes the dynamic of your artwork that it's not stale, 874 00:42:09,721 --> 00:42:11,841 Speaker 1: you know, you're not getting that same just dot pain 875 00:42:12,041 --> 00:42:16,601 Speaker 1: and yeah and water hole lines or serpents and every piece. 876 00:42:16,961 --> 00:42:20,881 Speaker 4: It's just a completely different look and feel. 877 00:42:21,921 --> 00:42:22,161 Speaker 5: Yeah. 878 00:42:22,601 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 6: It's funny because when I first started, I did all 879 00:42:25,521 --> 00:42:30,121 Speaker 6: the traditional symbols. I had your rainbows, campfires, all stuff 880 00:42:30,121 --> 00:42:32,641 Speaker 6: like that, correct, and then I started with moons and 881 00:42:32,641 --> 00:42:35,281 Speaker 6: stuff like that as well. But then because it was 882 00:42:35,321 --> 00:42:37,961 Speaker 6: COVID and it was like exploding, everyone was buying stuff 883 00:42:37,961 --> 00:42:41,081 Speaker 6: for their house, right because they couldn't go outside. Then 884 00:42:41,201 --> 00:42:43,561 Speaker 6: lots more people jumped in and were doing exactly the 885 00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:47,761 Speaker 6: same thing. Sometimes people would nearly copy exactly your work, 886 00:42:48,121 --> 00:42:51,721 Speaker 6: you know, for about maybe an hour two hours. I've 887 00:42:51,721 --> 00:42:53,721 Speaker 6: seen a few times where people were copying and I 888 00:42:53,801 --> 00:42:55,721 Speaker 6: was like, oh, this is crap, you know what I mean, 889 00:42:55,761 --> 00:42:59,881 Speaker 6: Like people were just pretty much copying exactly work. But 890 00:42:59,921 --> 00:43:03,081 Speaker 6: then I thought to myself, you know what, it's okay 891 00:43:03,081 --> 00:43:06,721 Speaker 6: to pain. It's everybody's work, right, all Indigenous people paint. 892 00:43:07,001 --> 00:43:09,001 Speaker 6: You can't say to people, well you can't paint that, 893 00:43:09,241 --> 00:43:12,121 Speaker 6: or that's my stuff, because it's not only my stuff. 894 00:43:12,521 --> 00:43:14,361 Speaker 6: So I thought to myself, you know that it's a 895 00:43:14,401 --> 00:43:18,241 Speaker 6: positive that people are painting indigenous artwork and people want 896 00:43:18,281 --> 00:43:20,441 Speaker 6: it in their house. I'm going to go and I 897 00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:24,121 Speaker 6: checked out like Fingle Beach stream time, of course my 898 00:43:24,201 --> 00:43:26,601 Speaker 6: favorite places. I'm always there looking at the rocks and 899 00:43:27,281 --> 00:43:29,921 Speaker 6: tracks and just how the weather erodes everything and the 900 00:43:30,041 --> 00:43:34,201 Speaker 6: shell grip, Cook Island all that stuff. So every time 901 00:43:34,481 --> 00:43:37,721 Speaker 6: there's like a storm or there's sunrise, sunset. I try 902 00:43:37,761 --> 00:43:39,721 Speaker 6: and base it off those colors that are in and 903 00:43:39,761 --> 00:43:40,761 Speaker 6: around those areas. 904 00:43:41,361 --> 00:43:45,761 Speaker 9: Do you go capture that? Do you take a capture exactly? Yeah, Yeah, 905 00:43:46,561 --> 00:43:49,321 Speaker 9: I take my camera. I sit up there. Sometimes I 906 00:43:49,401 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 9: might sit there for an hour, hour and a half 907 00:43:50,961 --> 00:43:54,081 Speaker 9: and just watch and just do stuff. And I'm actually 908 00:43:54,121 --> 00:43:57,281 Speaker 9: filmed up there for a few releases. But yeah, it's 909 00:43:57,361 --> 00:43:59,961 Speaker 9: it's a special place. You can feel the magic up there, 910 00:43:59,961 --> 00:44:00,841 Speaker 9: you know what I mean, like. 911 00:44:01,121 --> 00:44:03,521 Speaker 1: Oh, br it's your people's that's that's your mob, that 912 00:44:03,681 --> 00:44:06,361 Speaker 1: set's home. Yeah, you know, That's what I was going 913 00:44:06,441 --> 00:44:09,041 Speaker 1: to ask next, to be able to sit on country 914 00:44:09,401 --> 00:44:13,761 Speaker 1: and actually just breathe and just be so centered and 915 00:44:13,801 --> 00:44:17,561 Speaker 1: grounded and you're just sitting there and you're just oh yeah, 916 00:44:17,841 --> 00:44:20,161 Speaker 1: just taking it all in. I mean a lot of 917 00:44:20,201 --> 00:44:24,001 Speaker 1: our indigenous people can't always get back to their country 918 00:44:24,041 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: to have that. Yours is ten minutes down the road. 919 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:30,761 Speaker 1: You're stomping on your ground, your ancestors ground, you know, 920 00:44:31,001 --> 00:44:34,121 Speaker 1: and your bloodline. How does that feel? And do you 921 00:44:34,201 --> 00:44:38,801 Speaker 1: feel that that gives you great inspiration and the spirits 922 00:44:39,121 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: you know are coming with you through your art from 923 00:44:42,001 --> 00:44:44,041 Speaker 1: those moments, Oh, one hundred percent. 924 00:44:44,721 --> 00:44:46,641 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I've had some weird times when 925 00:44:46,641 --> 00:44:47,201 Speaker 5: I'm painting that. 926 00:44:47,241 --> 00:44:48,681 Speaker 6: And I used to say it all the time when 927 00:44:48,721 --> 00:44:52,281 Speaker 6: I started my grandmother who passed away like only when 928 00:44:52,281 --> 00:44:55,801 Speaker 6: I was young. Sometimes when I'm painting and I'm doing stuff, 929 00:44:55,881 --> 00:44:58,081 Speaker 6: it's like I see through her eyes. 930 00:44:58,401 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 5: It's a weird thing to say. 931 00:44:59,521 --> 00:45:02,281 Speaker 6: I know it, and people no, Na, No, there's a 932 00:45:02,361 --> 00:45:06,681 Speaker 6: random thing that may happen sometimes when I'm painting something 933 00:45:06,721 --> 00:45:08,641 Speaker 6: and I'm like, I feel like I've done it before, 934 00:45:08,721 --> 00:45:11,921 Speaker 6: I've seen it before. Yeah, I always feel like she's 935 00:45:12,001 --> 00:45:15,081 Speaker 6: right there when I'm doing stuff. Well, I just need 936 00:45:15,081 --> 00:45:18,921 Speaker 6: that little bit of extra motivation. A big thing for 937 00:45:18,961 --> 00:45:22,921 Speaker 6: me is black cockatoos. Never i feel like I'm doubting 938 00:45:22,961 --> 00:45:25,081 Speaker 6: my path somewhere or another. 939 00:45:25,961 --> 00:45:26,961 Speaker 5: It might be that day. 940 00:45:26,921 --> 00:45:28,481 Speaker 6: When I feel like, oh I am I doing the 941 00:45:28,561 --> 00:45:31,521 Speaker 6: right thing, and then they will fly past, although I'll 942 00:45:31,521 --> 00:45:34,081 Speaker 6: make a noise and I'm like, I know where I'm going. 943 00:45:34,561 --> 00:45:36,961 Speaker 5: It's a weird thing, but that's the feeling that I have. 944 00:45:37,601 --> 00:45:40,681 Speaker 1: Brother, I'm like that with eagles, Like I have eagle 945 00:45:40,681 --> 00:45:43,121 Speaker 1: feathers on me and I have ever since I was 946 00:45:43,161 --> 00:45:46,401 Speaker 1: a young kid. I just know at the moment I 947 00:45:46,481 --> 00:45:49,201 Speaker 1: see an eagle. I'm safe, I'm in the right place. 948 00:45:49,841 --> 00:45:52,881 Speaker 1: The resemblance of what that bird means to me is 949 00:45:53,001 --> 00:45:57,761 Speaker 1: so far beyond an animal. It has such an impact on. 950 00:45:57,721 --> 00:45:59,681 Speaker 4: Me and spirit. 951 00:45:59,761 --> 00:46:03,201 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and myself and Jeremy Donovan did a 952 00:46:03,241 --> 00:46:07,561 Speaker 1: trip to Townsville together, up to community up there, and 953 00:46:07,761 --> 00:46:11,361 Speaker 1: he's a proud Palm Island man and he's got obviously 954 00:46:11,361 --> 00:46:14,201 Speaker 1: bloodlines and connections down here in Bungelong Country as well. 955 00:46:14,801 --> 00:46:17,521 Speaker 1: But Jeremy and I we were just taking a walk 956 00:46:18,041 --> 00:46:20,721 Speaker 1: where the casino is al along the shoreline. 957 00:46:20,761 --> 00:46:23,001 Speaker 4: They're heading out towards the little. 958 00:46:22,761 --> 00:46:25,481 Speaker 1: Magnetic island out there, and I looked up to the 959 00:46:25,521 --> 00:46:27,281 Speaker 1: tree and I said, Broz, look at that, and there 960 00:46:27,321 --> 00:46:32,961 Speaker 1: was per black cockatoos and that moment, him and I 961 00:46:33,321 --> 00:46:37,001 Speaker 1: just standing there sharing that moment, and they didn't flinch. 962 00:46:37,401 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: They were right above us and they were just sitting 963 00:46:40,081 --> 00:46:40,801 Speaker 1: there watching. 964 00:46:40,601 --> 00:46:45,121 Speaker 4: Us as a pair, and that was just so powerful. 965 00:46:45,361 --> 00:46:48,881 Speaker 1: We knew that we were meant to be there, and 966 00:46:48,961 --> 00:46:52,041 Speaker 1: as you say, you know, Fingle, what a blessed and 967 00:46:52,081 --> 00:46:53,241 Speaker 1: spiritual place to be. 968 00:46:54,201 --> 00:46:57,161 Speaker 6: It was crazy because I did my last fare in 969 00:46:57,241 --> 00:47:02,121 Speaker 6: Sydney and it's like carriage works so near redfern on 970 00:47:02,161 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 6: that there. 971 00:47:02,521 --> 00:47:04,881 Speaker 1: I know the carriage works used to be the old yards, mate. 972 00:47:04,881 --> 00:47:06,961 Speaker 1: We used to hit all the red rattlers in there, 973 00:47:07,521 --> 00:47:11,321 Speaker 1: spray the old panels on the red ratlers. 974 00:47:12,241 --> 00:47:15,521 Speaker 6: Well, because the first couple of hours was real quiet, 975 00:47:15,601 --> 00:47:18,801 Speaker 6: right with stuff, and then something, I had to go 976 00:47:18,841 --> 00:47:20,641 Speaker 6: back out to the car and grab something. And when 977 00:47:20,681 --> 00:47:24,641 Speaker 6: I did, six flew past Nah, I went back inside. 978 00:47:24,881 --> 00:47:27,281 Speaker 6: I sold three artworks in twenty minutes. 979 00:47:27,881 --> 00:47:30,841 Speaker 1: Bro, That's that's unheard of. Because you've got the bridge, 980 00:47:30,841 --> 00:47:33,041 Speaker 1: You've got every street just straight over the edge there, 981 00:47:33,361 --> 00:47:35,361 Speaker 1: which obviously is a lot different today to what it 982 00:47:35,401 --> 00:47:38,681 Speaker 1: once was. But y, the amount of the amount of 983 00:47:38,921 --> 00:47:43,161 Speaker 1: traffic and people and trains and just it's unheard of. 984 00:47:43,961 --> 00:47:47,081 Speaker 1: That's not an environment that you would expect to see 985 00:47:47,481 --> 00:47:49,281 Speaker 1: black cockatoos exactly. 986 00:47:49,961 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 5: And so I show took twenty one artworks and sold 987 00:47:52,521 --> 00:47:53,081 Speaker 5: them all out. 988 00:47:53,521 --> 00:47:55,521 Speaker 1: That is phenomenal. And how are you looking at the 989 00:47:55,521 --> 00:47:59,481 Speaker 1: moment with your artwork? You're obviously pretty busy at all times. 990 00:47:59,561 --> 00:48:01,721 Speaker 1: There's always something going on. Yeah. 991 00:48:01,801 --> 00:48:06,121 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm doing this big tickets called So it's 992 00:48:06,161 --> 00:48:08,801 Speaker 6: a set of three and it's going over like this 993 00:48:08,841 --> 00:48:11,881 Speaker 6: fireplace in Sydney, like one of the old antique type 994 00:48:11,881 --> 00:48:12,721 Speaker 6: of fireplaces. 995 00:48:12,961 --> 00:48:13,841 Speaker 5: It's going to be epic. 996 00:48:13,881 --> 00:48:16,361 Speaker 6: And then also just was doing one for the Loss 997 00:48:16,401 --> 00:48:19,401 Speaker 6: Brown Place with the Titans and Queensland Maroons and a 998 00:48:19,481 --> 00:48:20,321 Speaker 6: Julle Ruise player. 999 00:48:21,081 --> 00:48:22,121 Speaker 5: So I just finished that one. 1000 00:48:22,161 --> 00:48:24,481 Speaker 6: We'd be delivering to her this week as well, and 1001 00:48:24,481 --> 00:48:27,881 Speaker 6: then I'll probably start working on for the Brisbane art 1002 00:48:27,921 --> 00:48:30,041 Speaker 6: there and the block as well. So I've got to 1003 00:48:30,041 --> 00:48:33,641 Speaker 6: create some other stuff for the Block twenty six that's coming. 1004 00:48:33,481 --> 00:48:34,081 Speaker 5: Up as well. 1005 00:48:34,481 --> 00:48:36,121 Speaker 1: I was just going to say I didn't know whether 1006 00:48:36,161 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: I was allowed to bring that up about the block, 1007 00:48:38,041 --> 00:48:40,681 Speaker 1: but that is something that you've now spoken on. How 1008 00:48:40,681 --> 00:48:43,841 Speaker 1: did it feel, you know, having your artwork on a 1009 00:48:43,961 --> 00:48:47,401 Speaker 1: national TV that you know everybody's watching and you can't 1010 00:48:47,441 --> 00:48:48,121 Speaker 1: miss the art. 1011 00:48:48,881 --> 00:48:53,321 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was pretty emotional the first time. Like I 1012 00:48:53,321 --> 00:48:56,481 Speaker 6: think I was like, what the heck, like it's actually 1013 00:48:56,521 --> 00:48:59,241 Speaker 6: on there. The wife she was a bit emotional when 1014 00:48:59,281 --> 00:49:02,001 Speaker 6: she first seen. She's like, this is so good business, epic. 1015 00:49:02,281 --> 00:49:02,761 Speaker 4: And it is. 1016 00:49:03,081 --> 00:49:06,241 Speaker 6: It's amazing just to have it in the TV space 1017 00:49:06,321 --> 00:49:10,281 Speaker 6: and like I said, people wanting it in their house 1018 00:49:10,361 --> 00:49:13,801 Speaker 6: and like keen to know the stories and the symbols, 1019 00:49:13,841 --> 00:49:16,361 Speaker 6: and like I've been lucky enough, I think. I think 1020 00:49:16,441 --> 00:49:19,281 Speaker 6: last year I sent five pieces down so there was 1021 00:49:19,321 --> 00:49:21,921 Speaker 6: in like lots of little minis in different areas, and 1022 00:49:21,921 --> 00:49:24,641 Speaker 6: then two on a hallway. 1023 00:49:24,961 --> 00:49:26,241 Speaker 5: Just very lucky and. 1024 00:49:26,721 --> 00:49:30,521 Speaker 1: Grateful that I look at that, Brad, and I think 1025 00:49:30,521 --> 00:49:33,401 Speaker 1: to myself, you know, like all those years ago, we're 1026 00:49:33,401 --> 00:49:36,121 Speaker 1: sitting at the bottom of the rock. For those when 1027 00:49:36,161 --> 00:49:38,481 Speaker 1: I say the rock, I'll explain it because a lot 1028 00:49:38,561 --> 00:49:41,801 Speaker 1: of you wouldn't understand. But where we live here on 1029 00:49:41,841 --> 00:49:44,481 Speaker 1: the Gold Coast, we have a very special place and 1030 00:49:44,601 --> 00:49:47,121 Speaker 1: it is I believe, a very spiritual place, which is 1031 00:49:47,161 --> 00:49:55,481 Speaker 1: criminally and the rocks there a very powerful, very powerful 1032 00:49:55,481 --> 00:49:58,201 Speaker 1: place to just sit and just take it all in. 1033 00:49:58,241 --> 00:50:01,241 Speaker 1: And Brad and I we did exactly that, and we 1034 00:50:01,321 --> 00:50:07,561 Speaker 1: recorded and you know, I think about that time and 1035 00:50:07,601 --> 00:50:11,121 Speaker 1: then here we are, and you know, what a beautiful 1036 00:50:11,161 --> 00:50:13,401 Speaker 1: thing for you to experience, and then you know, to 1037 00:50:13,481 --> 00:50:17,721 Speaker 1: know that there is your artwork sitting there on National TV. 1038 00:50:19,001 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: Life could have been so much different, but yet you're 1039 00:50:22,041 --> 00:50:25,721 Speaker 1: able to grab it and get through it. And this 1040 00:50:25,881 --> 00:50:28,121 Speaker 1: is why I really, you know, wanted to have you 1041 00:50:28,161 --> 00:50:30,681 Speaker 1: on here, because you are an inspiring man that has 1042 00:50:31,001 --> 00:50:35,321 Speaker 1: the living proof of self belief and knowing that no 1043 00:50:35,361 --> 00:50:37,561 Speaker 1: matter what, if you chip away at something or you've 1044 00:50:37,601 --> 00:50:40,001 Speaker 1: reached even to reach out, you know a lot of 1045 00:50:40,041 --> 00:50:41,521 Speaker 1: men won't reach out you. 1046 00:50:41,201 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 4: You did. 1047 00:50:42,201 --> 00:50:45,041 Speaker 1: You tried your best to just explain yourself and ask 1048 00:50:45,121 --> 00:50:48,281 Speaker 1: for help, you know, but then you tried to work 1049 00:50:48,321 --> 00:50:51,641 Speaker 1: on yourself most of all. And I think that you 1050 00:50:51,681 --> 00:50:54,401 Speaker 1: know that right there is just phenomenal. 1051 00:50:55,641 --> 00:50:55,881 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1052 00:50:55,961 --> 00:50:58,401 Speaker 6: I think like when you said you hit the nail 1053 00:50:58,401 --> 00:51:01,481 Speaker 6: on the head there, it's not weird to work on 1054 00:51:01,521 --> 00:51:04,201 Speaker 6: yourself like it's a good thing. Yeah, because if you're 1055 00:51:04,201 --> 00:51:06,401 Speaker 6: in your best version and then everyone around you can 1056 00:51:06,441 --> 00:51:11,401 Speaker 6: bet the same. But totally believe, like you with you 1057 00:51:11,481 --> 00:51:14,521 Speaker 6: cycling across Australia and everything you do, if you set 1058 00:51:14,561 --> 00:51:17,041 Speaker 6: your mind to it, you can do whatever you want 1059 00:51:17,441 --> 00:51:20,441 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. That's what you want to teach your kids. 1060 00:51:20,441 --> 00:51:24,321 Speaker 6: And you know nothing is too big. If you really 1061 00:51:24,321 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 6: want it, you can go get it. I love that 1062 00:51:27,521 --> 00:51:28,321 Speaker 6: you believe. 1063 00:51:29,161 --> 00:51:31,921 Speaker 1: I want to ask you two things, Brad, because it 1064 00:51:32,041 --> 00:51:33,481 Speaker 1: is starting to get on in the day and I 1065 00:51:33,521 --> 00:51:36,041 Speaker 1: know we've both got families that we need to go 1066 00:51:36,081 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: and sit down and have our dinners with every guest 1067 00:51:40,481 --> 00:51:41,121 Speaker 1: that comes on. 1068 00:51:42,601 --> 00:51:44,641 Speaker 4: Pretty much, you got it. 1069 00:51:44,681 --> 00:51:46,521 Speaker 1: But I ain't tonight because I'm going to go sit 1070 00:51:46,561 --> 00:51:50,361 Speaker 1: down and watch the sunset. But I wanted to ask 1071 00:51:50,441 --> 00:51:52,881 Speaker 1: you the questions that I ask all my guests. And 1072 00:51:52,921 --> 00:51:55,841 Speaker 1: we leave a digital imprint and a digital toolbox for 1073 00:51:55,921 --> 00:52:00,561 Speaker 1: all our listeners that you know maybe hoping or wanting 1074 00:52:00,561 --> 00:52:03,001 Speaker 1: to try and better themselves, but are struggling to find 1075 00:52:03,001 --> 00:52:05,681 Speaker 1: those moments that are going to give them the hope 1076 00:52:05,801 --> 00:52:06,521 Speaker 1: or the tools. 1077 00:52:07,321 --> 00:52:08,401 Speaker 4: If you could give two. 1078 00:52:10,041 --> 00:52:14,241 Speaker 1: Two really good sort of pieces of advice for those 1079 00:52:14,281 --> 00:52:18,361 Speaker 1: out there listening today, what would Brad Turner say to 1080 00:52:18,481 --> 00:52:20,281 Speaker 1: them looking back. 1081 00:52:20,081 --> 00:52:25,161 Speaker 4: To where life was to where you are today. 1082 00:52:24,361 --> 00:52:30,561 Speaker 6: Oh, mate, Like, be grateful for every day, take chances, 1083 00:52:30,841 --> 00:52:32,481 Speaker 6: but believe in yourself. 1084 00:52:33,521 --> 00:52:34,841 Speaker 5: And nothing's ever too big. 1085 00:52:36,161 --> 00:52:39,841 Speaker 6: Like if you really feel like you want to do something, 1086 00:52:40,161 --> 00:52:43,121 Speaker 6: but it's not too big, there's no limitations. The only 1087 00:52:43,161 --> 00:52:45,841 Speaker 6: limits in your head, and if you really want to 1088 00:52:45,841 --> 00:52:49,041 Speaker 6: do it, you can. You can do stuff. But I 1089 00:52:49,281 --> 00:52:51,401 Speaker 6: just always come back to earth, like, you've got to 1090 00:52:51,401 --> 00:52:54,401 Speaker 6: believe in yourself and you've got to have people believe 1091 00:52:54,441 --> 00:52:57,641 Speaker 6: in your right because if you have that cheer squad 1092 00:52:58,241 --> 00:53:02,161 Speaker 6: all those close people, surround yourself with those people and 1093 00:53:02,321 --> 00:53:05,441 Speaker 6: just go hard every day. But look for the positive. 1094 00:53:05,721 --> 00:53:07,841 Speaker 6: You've got to find the positive every day. Try and 1095 00:53:07,841 --> 00:53:10,561 Speaker 6: get out of that mindset of gone, oh shit, this 1096 00:53:10,681 --> 00:53:14,401 Speaker 6: happened to me. Okay, it happened, but what can we 1097 00:53:14,401 --> 00:53:17,641 Speaker 6: do or how can we make it better? Don't get 1098 00:53:17,681 --> 00:53:21,561 Speaker 6: stuck in that little path where you're like shit, you know, 1099 00:53:21,601 --> 00:53:23,281 Speaker 6: because that's what drags you down. 1100 00:53:24,041 --> 00:53:28,721 Speaker 5: The more they pile on top, it's like it just 1101 00:53:28,721 --> 00:53:29,321 Speaker 5: squashes you. 1102 00:53:30,321 --> 00:53:31,041 Speaker 4: So look for. 1103 00:53:31,001 --> 00:53:34,561 Speaker 6: Something you can do and you love. Look for something 1104 00:53:34,641 --> 00:53:38,361 Speaker 6: positive every day. So as you get up that that morning, 1105 00:53:39,681 --> 00:53:42,881 Speaker 6: I'd look for something positive straight away then stay that. 1106 00:53:44,561 --> 00:53:47,401 Speaker 1: I love that. And something that I've taken from our 1107 00:53:47,481 --> 00:53:52,041 Speaker 1: chat today is just looking through the lens, you know, 1108 00:53:53,201 --> 00:53:55,321 Speaker 1: just looking through that lens and trying to find that 1109 00:53:56,001 --> 00:53:56,921 Speaker 1: time with my camera. 1110 00:53:56,961 --> 00:54:00,761 Speaker 6: It's like if you look through like even if you go, 1111 00:54:00,881 --> 00:54:03,321 Speaker 6: if you get your phone when you get home later 1112 00:54:03,441 --> 00:54:06,601 Speaker 6: or you're down the beach, ye look through that camera 1113 00:54:07,321 --> 00:54:08,361 Speaker 6: and take that photo. 1114 00:54:08,481 --> 00:54:10,961 Speaker 5: I'm telling you now you're going to be like, fuck, 1115 00:54:11,041 --> 00:54:14,241 Speaker 5: this world is epic. This sunset is amazing. 1116 00:54:14,561 --> 00:54:17,121 Speaker 6: How good is it when you get the kids on 1117 00:54:17,161 --> 00:54:20,161 Speaker 6: the back you if you're sitting there with a pizza 1118 00:54:20,241 --> 00:54:22,761 Speaker 6: or whatever, take a photo of them too, just eating 1119 00:54:22,761 --> 00:54:24,321 Speaker 6: their pizza sunset. 1120 00:54:25,121 --> 00:54:28,161 Speaker 4: How can you be that exactly? It's a beautiful memory. 1121 00:54:28,641 --> 00:54:29,961 Speaker 4: When's your next exhibition? 1122 00:54:30,081 --> 00:54:33,361 Speaker 1: For those that want to know more about you personally 1123 00:54:33,681 --> 00:54:37,121 Speaker 1: your art maybe even purchase or engage with that, how 1124 00:54:37,161 --> 00:54:38,201 Speaker 1: can they best find you and. 1125 00:54:38,801 --> 00:54:39,841 Speaker 4: Your exhibition please? 1126 00:54:41,241 --> 00:54:45,361 Speaker 6: So definitely best find me at on Instagram at Brad 1127 00:54:45,441 --> 00:54:50,161 Speaker 6: Turner Creative or it's Brad turnycreative dot com. And then 1128 00:54:50,281 --> 00:54:53,481 Speaker 6: my next exhibition will be in Brisbane. It's an affordable 1129 00:54:53,561 --> 00:54:57,081 Speaker 6: art there and it's Mother's Day weekend. If you ever 1130 00:54:57,161 --> 00:54:59,961 Speaker 6: want to turn up and go have a look, just 1131 00:55:00,001 --> 00:55:02,601 Speaker 6: send me a message because I get some VIP tickets 1132 00:55:02,601 --> 00:55:05,081 Speaker 6: that I can send out the people and caution I 1133 00:55:05,121 --> 00:55:07,401 Speaker 6: think where I think tickets are usually about fifty dollars, 1134 00:55:07,921 --> 00:55:09,521 Speaker 6: so you can come in and have to walk around 1135 00:55:09,601 --> 00:55:11,921 Speaker 6: and usually they give you a glass of shampers, so 1136 00:55:12,321 --> 00:55:14,761 Speaker 6: you bring your missus or whatever or your friends or 1137 00:55:15,081 --> 00:55:17,881 Speaker 6: girlfriends and then just go have a look around and 1138 00:55:17,961 --> 00:55:21,681 Speaker 6: check out all the art. Yeah, you can't eat it. 1139 00:55:21,721 --> 00:55:24,641 Speaker 6: I think there's something like fourteen thousand go through there 1140 00:55:24,681 --> 00:55:28,001 Speaker 6: over three days. And wow, Sydney one day's around eight 1141 00:55:28,041 --> 00:55:30,961 Speaker 6: eight thousand and same as Melbourne, so probably about a 1142 00:55:31,001 --> 00:55:35,161 Speaker 6: crowd eight eight thousand that go through and by artworks. 1143 00:55:35,161 --> 00:55:37,921 Speaker 6: I think Sydney last year they sold three point five 1144 00:55:37,961 --> 00:55:39,881 Speaker 6: million in artwork in three days. 1145 00:55:40,481 --> 00:55:42,721 Speaker 4: Wow, that's phenomenal. 1146 00:55:42,761 --> 00:55:43,121 Speaker 1: Crazy. 1147 00:55:43,641 --> 00:55:46,361 Speaker 4: And look, guys, it's something that I think. 1148 00:55:46,161 --> 00:55:48,841 Speaker 1: That if you're in Brisbane, get amongst it and like 1149 00:55:48,881 --> 00:55:51,041 Speaker 1: Brad said, get in contact with him, or even drop 1150 00:55:51,081 --> 00:55:54,561 Speaker 1: a message into my account and I'll put you in 1151 00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:58,561 Speaker 1: contact with Brad. Who'd be lucky enough to get a 1152 00:55:58,601 --> 00:56:01,041 Speaker 1: couple of VIP passes and slide on in there and 1153 00:56:01,081 --> 00:56:03,921 Speaker 1: really experience what it's all about and get to meet 1154 00:56:03,921 --> 00:56:08,041 Speaker 1: Brad himself. Look, Brad, I want to just say personally, 1155 00:56:08,121 --> 00:56:10,681 Speaker 1: thank you for your time today. I love you mate, 1156 00:56:10,841 --> 00:56:15,321 Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of you, and I would love well. 1157 00:56:15,641 --> 00:56:17,081 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say too much Brad, and I've 1158 00:56:17,081 --> 00:56:19,961 Speaker 1: got a little bit of something in the pipeline. Stay 1159 00:56:20,001 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: tuned for twenty twenty six is all I'm going to say, 1160 00:56:22,521 --> 00:56:29,361 Speaker 1: because we've got something coming. It's going to be special, 1161 00:56:29,681 --> 00:56:31,521 Speaker 1: it's going to be funny, and I think you're going 1162 00:56:31,561 --> 00:56:35,881 Speaker 1: to all enjoy it. And yeah, I thank you everybody 1163 00:56:35,881 --> 00:56:39,401 Speaker 1: who's taken the time to listen today. And look, guys, 1164 00:56:39,521 --> 00:56:43,161 Speaker 1: just remember one percent better every day, take every day 1165 00:56:43,161 --> 00:56:46,561 Speaker 1: as it comes, and know that there are people out 1166 00:56:46,561 --> 00:56:48,961 Speaker 1: there that you can reach out to and just be 1167 00:56:49,081 --> 00:56:53,601 Speaker 1: kind and thank you Brad once again. Mate, love you 1168 00:56:53,881 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: and thank you very much for your time. 1169 00:56:55,521 --> 00:56:57,921 Speaker 4: Thank you, ro appreciate you. 1170 00:56:58,121 --> 00:56:58,961 Speaker 5: I'll catch you, bro. 1171 00:56:59,521 --> 00:57:01,761 Speaker 1: There you go. Guys, the click. 1172 00:57:03,201 --> 00:57:05,481 Speaker 2: For to reck. Don't try and make you the book 1173 00:57:06,161 --> 00:57:08,161 Speaker 2: right for the record. You ain't trying to grow downy 1174 00:57:08,161 --> 00:57:11,161 Speaker 2: stuff for you. Ride for the record, laugh on me 1175 00:57:11,281 --> 00:57:14,281 Speaker 2: going all the way way for the record. Ain't trying 1176 00:57:14,281 --> 00:57:15,321 Speaker 2: to link, no, trying to waste. 1177 00:57:15,521 --> 00:57:16,281 Speaker 1: Stop all that. 1178 00:57:16,401 --> 00:57:22,001 Speaker 3: For the record, for the record, for the for the record, 1179 00:57:22,921 --> 00:57:26,801 Speaker 3: for the record. Yeah, for the record, for the record. 1180 00:57:38,001 --> 00:57:41,081 Speaker 1: M hm hm