WEBVTT - Inside the battle for the soul of the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 1>Lads, Johnny, thank you very much, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Well tonight it's not the night that we wanted for

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal Party, or for our coalition, or indeed for

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<v Speaker 1>our country.

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<v Speaker 2>As I saw Dutton on Saturday night giving his concession speech,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw grace.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier on I called the Prime Minister to congratulate him

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<v Speaker 1>on his success tonight. It's an historic occasion for the

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party and we recognize that.

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<v Speaker 2>And he took complete responsibility for the loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we didn't do well enough during this campaign. That

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<v Speaker 1>much is obvious tonight, and I accept for responsibility for.

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<v Speaker 2>That which someone in the Liberal Party described to me

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<v Speaker 2>as a demolition to the party. I mean, what humiliation

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<v Speaker 2>for Dutton twenty four years in Parliament and there he

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<v Speaker 2>is the first opposition leader to lose his seat.

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<v Speaker 4>From Schwartz Media, I'm Ruby Jones. This is seven am.

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<v Speaker 4>The Liberal Party's sole searching has begun as it looks

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<v Speaker 4>to select a new leader and consider its future direction.

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<v Speaker 4>But as some in the Liberal Party call for a

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<v Speaker 4>return to its traditional values, the question of where to

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<v Speaker 4>now is complicated firstly by Peter Dutton having led the

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<v Speaker 4>party further to the right and then the election itself

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<v Speaker 4>having wiped out so much of the party's moderate wing. Today,

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<v Speaker 4>chief political correspondent for the Saturday paper Karen Bullow on

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<v Speaker 4>what's next for the Liberal Party. It's Tuesday, May six,

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<v Speaker 4>So Karen, I thought we could begin by talking about

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Dutton's speech on election night. He took to the

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<v Speaker 4>stage after it was clear that the Liberal Party had

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<v Speaker 4>been decimated and he had lost his own seat. One

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<v Speaker 4>of the other things that Dutton said was that the

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<v Speaker 4>Liberal Party will rebuild. Obviously, that is a very big

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<v Speaker 4>task after a political wipeout like this. So tell me

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<v Speaker 4>a bit about the questions that the party is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be asking itself as they try and work out

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<v Speaker 4>the way forward.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, it's going to be a big job, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a big job after the twenty two loss.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we saw an election review then by Jane

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<v Speaker 2>Hume and Brian Locknane, major recommendations at that time which

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<v Speaker 2>have largely been ignored, especially to do with women. Labor

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<v Speaker 2>does have a super majority now of eighty seven, but

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<v Speaker 2>the coalition have to build on what we see at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment of like thirty eight thirty nine. But they

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<v Speaker 2>have to sort out the leadership first, that's a big question,

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<v Speaker 2>how are they going to go forward? And then they'll

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<v Speaker 2>do another review about what went wrong. Hopefully they'll listen

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<v Speaker 2>this time. In the meantime, what we're left with is

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<v Speaker 2>anger and frustration. So many different arguments about what went wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But one Liberal MP told me on background that it

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<v Speaker 2>was choosing to run without proper policy development and that

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<v Speaker 2>was reflecting arrogance, shows that they weren't really listening to

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<v Speaker 2>backbenches and highlights that you shouldn't let Peter Kredlin, the

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<v Speaker 2>former chief of staff to Tony Abbott run your campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was this criticism about Coalition members pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>only talking to the sky after dark crowd, which is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much an echo chamber.

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<v Speaker 3>And I argue that we need a national Register of

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<v Speaker 3>child sex offenders.

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<v Speaker 5>If you were PM, would you bring that in?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, very much soon. I think it's important. We

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<v Speaker 1>tried to push it when we're in government. The States

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<v Speaker 1>largely weren't interested.

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<v Speaker 2>And not listening to the wider community and their concerns,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in a cost of living election, and where were

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<v Speaker 2>these policies?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And so obviously there's a lot going on behind

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<v Speaker 4>the scenes, lots of phone calls, people doing the numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>How long could all of this take before we have

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<v Speaker 4>an opposition leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the first thing that the party has to do

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<v Speaker 2>is wait. They have to wait, unfortunately, until all the

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<v Speaker 2>seats counted and all have been declared, and that will

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<v Speaker 2>take some days. And then all these calls are being

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<v Speaker 2>made behind the scenes to get support. The MPs have

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<v Speaker 2>to come together in Cambria as a party room to

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<v Speaker 2>decide who is going to be put forward and who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be chosen as the next leader and deputy

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<v Speaker 2>leader and also I would say for the position of

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<v Speaker 2>Manager of Opposition Business. So we need a leadership team

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<v Speaker 2>for the Liberal Party. But in the meantime, the deputy

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<v Speaker 2>Opposition leader is the acting leader of the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there any word yet on who the front runner is?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Angus Taylor has been talked of for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. He's certainly very ambitious and he is in

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<v Speaker 2>a very prominent portfolio of shadow treasurer. But he has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of baggage as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's start with surprise from the budget, the tax cuts,

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<v Speaker 6>all the coalition suport.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, can I say this is a budget for the

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<v Speaker 7>next five weeks, not for the next five years and beyond.

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<v Speaker 7>And what was offered was a bribe, an election bribe

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<v Speaker 7>of seventy cents a day starting in a year's time.

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<v Speaker 7>And frankly, this is not even going to touch the

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<v Speaker 7>sides of the economic pain that Australian households have felt

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<v Speaker 7>over the last two and a half years since labor's

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<v Speaker 7>been empowered.

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<v Speaker 2>We've also got Dan Tiern, who also did well up

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<v Speaker 2>against Alex Dyson, the Independent candidate in Wannen to retain

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<v Speaker 2>his seat. And we've got Susan Lee who's the deputy

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<v Speaker 2>Opposition leader currently acting Liberal leader. She's holding the ford

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment until they sort it out.

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<v Speaker 5>We need more homes. State governments have failed us. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>be honest. We're stepping right up here and we're saying

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<v Speaker 5>we will provide the impetus to actually build these homes

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<v Speaker 5>at local government level, and local governments around the country

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<v Speaker 5>have got projects waiting to go. They talked to me

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<v Speaker 5>about them all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the three people being spoken of at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but no clear number one. There's also a chance for

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<v Speaker 2>the Defense spokesperson, Andrew Hasty. He's widely seen as a

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<v Speaker 2>potential future Liberal leader, but perhaps now is not his time.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to say though, that being opposition leader

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<v Speaker 2>after such a trouncing is a poison chalice and would

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<v Speaker 2>be very difficult for someone to carry through to the

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<v Speaker 2>next selection. So there is a certain thought that perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>they might give the job to the woman and Susan

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<v Speaker 2>Lee might have to step into that role, which is

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<v Speaker 2>quite difficult to carry through to the next selection. And

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully we'll sort it out pretty soon because Parliament will

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<v Speaker 2>resume as soon as the Prime Minister sorts his site

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<v Speaker 2>out as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And you mentioned that Angus Taylor carries a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>baggage As the Shadow Treasurer, he probably had the highest

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<v Speaker 4>profile during the election campaign other than Peter Dutton. So

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<v Speaker 4>does the fact that the coalition's message on cost of

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<v Speaker 4>living failed to cut through? Does that failure lie with

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<v Speaker 4>Angus Taylor? And will that hinder his chances to become

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<v Speaker 4>the leader?

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<v Speaker 2>That is a live potential. I have to say. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the Coalition members that are coming out at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>the likes of Andrew Bragg comes to mind. He's a moderate,

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<v Speaker 2>he has been pointing out the economic message failure during

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't do enough on the economy, and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think we did enough to capture the center of the

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<v Speaker 6>Australian public support, and I think ultimately that's where the

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<v Speaker 6>campaign went wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have to then take the next step forward

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind and go, well, who's responsible for that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Angus Taylor and Jane Hume came up with a number

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<v Speaker 2>of those policies and they didn't really cut through. So

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<v Speaker 2>now that is being pointed out by people such as

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Bragg, but also Holly Hughes, no friend of Angus Taylor,

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<v Speaker 2>They've got some history. She's also pointing out the failings

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<v Speaker 2>of Angus Taylor. So that's very much out in the

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<v Speaker 2>media at the moment.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm on the record publicly, so I'm not worried about

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<v Speaker 8>saying this. I've said it before.

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

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<v Speaker 8>Concerns about his capability. I feel that we have zero

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<v Speaker 8>economic policy to sell. I don't know what he's been

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<v Speaker 8>doing for three years.

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<v Speaker 4>And Karen under Peter Dutton, the Liberal Party has been

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<v Speaker 4>more to the right. There's been this focus of immigration.

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<v Speaker 4>There was of course the opposition to the Voice to Parliament,

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<v Speaker 4>and then more recently he waded into the quote unquote

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<v Speaker 4>culture wars, talking about Australian flags on Australia Day and

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<v Speaker 4>welcome to country. So do you think that the Coalition

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<v Speaker 4>is going to start to walk away from those sorts

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<v Speaker 4>of topics, those sorts of talking points now that Dunton

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<v Speaker 4>is out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very much your wait and see. They're certainly being

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<v Speaker 2>advised to stop doing that and they should focus more

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<v Speaker 2>on the economic message rather than matters of culture.

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<v Speaker 9>We saw you wearing a make Australia Great Again hat

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<v Speaker 9>at a time when Donald Trump poison to the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We are seing the likes of the firebrand senator in

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<v Speaker 2>an aperture Price come out and say in a statement

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<v Speaker 2>that the Coalition should have in fact stood taller on

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<v Speaker 2>some of these issues and shouldn't go backwards and go

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<v Speaker 2>more to the center.

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<v Speaker 9>Will you give a speech in which you used a

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<v Speaker 9>Donald Trump statement to make Australia great again? So can

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<v Speaker 9>I come back to the question are you partly responsible?

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<v Speaker 9>Can I the Liberal Party? Let me come back to

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<v Speaker 9>Peter Dutton's loss of his seat.

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<v Speaker 10>Let me come back to the question. That's a whole

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<v Speaker 10>lot of muddet just slung right there. Can I just say,

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<v Speaker 10>in terms of wanting this country to be great. Donald

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<v Speaker 10>Trump doesn't own those four words, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But on the other side, the numbers of the moderates

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<v Speaker 2>are even smaller now than they were in the last election,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were being gutted then and certainly they're very

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<v Speaker 2>small in number now. And so while the moderates that

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<v Speaker 2>are left are calling for the coalition to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the center, and that's where the the main votes are,

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<v Speaker 2>the main election fights usually are, they are still being

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<v Speaker 2>dragged further to the right.

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<v Speaker 4>After the break the infighting in Labor over its new

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<v Speaker 4>Karen Anthony Albanezi is set to renew his ministry as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Before the election, he said that he would keep his

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<v Speaker 4>core leadership team in play, but he wouldn't be drawn

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<v Speaker 4>on what that would mean for other cabinet ministers, so

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<v Speaker 4>people like Catania Plibasac for example. So let's talk a

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<v Speaker 4>bit about their relationship and what is the heart of

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<v Speaker 4>the tension.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, basically, while they were friends back in the early days,

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<v Speaker 2>for them within the Labor Party, it does come down

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<v Speaker 2>to who backed who when Albanzi was running for the

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<v Speaker 2>leadership and who backed Bill Shorten. Tania Plibersek backed Bill Shorten,

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<v Speaker 2>and so therefore there is this view on Albanzi's side

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<v Speaker 2>of the betrayal, and this has played out ever since

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty two election win. When Albanesi was giving

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<v Speaker 2>out the portfolios, despite a great standing within the party,

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<v Speaker 2>she was actually you know, tipped by Julia Gillard as

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<v Speaker 2>a future Labor prime minister. He gave Plebisek the environment portfolio,

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult for a Labor minister to champion because you

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<v Speaker 2>have to do tough things like approve coal mines and

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<v Speaker 2>our mental reform has been a tough gig and for

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<v Speaker 2>whoever does get the environment portfolio going forward, it still

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<v Speaker 2>will be a tough gig. You know, the Prime minister

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<v Speaker 2>has had this huge election win. He has the power

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<v Speaker 2>to do pretty much whatever he wants with whoever gets

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<v Speaker 2>whatever portfolio. But at the same time, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>says he has to sort of respect the caucus, respect factions.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an institutionalist, he loves the Labor Party and it's

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<v Speaker 2>for him to sort out amongst the factions the left

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<v Speaker 2>and right, and for the.

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<v Speaker 11>States, Richard Males in defense, Penny Wong in foreign affairs,

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<v Speaker 11>Jim Chalmers in Treasury, Don Farrell in Trade, and Katie

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<v Speaker 11>Gallaher in finance bring a stability to the show that

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<v Speaker 11>is really important.

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<v Speaker 2>During the campaign he did say that the main leadership

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<v Speaker 2>group with the likes of Jim Chalmers's treasurer, the Deputy

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister's Defense Minister, Katie Gallaher as Finance Minister, those

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<v Speaker 2>sort of leadership group members will stay the same. But

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<v Speaker 2>it did appear that everything else was up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you have a wider cabinet reshuffle but leave

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<v Speaker 2>those leaders in place that you named.

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<v Speaker 11>We're not getting ahead of ourselves in terms of the

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<v Speaker 11>broader issues and the caucus makeup. Of course, the caucus

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<v Speaker 11>elect the front bench, but quite clearly the leader's team

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<v Speaker 11>and the economic team are important we will have.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what's being sorted out now. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be fascinating to see who gets what. But he did

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<v Speaker 2>say that Plebisik would stay as a cabinet minister.

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<v Speaker 4>And Anthony Albanezi always said that he wanted to be

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<v Speaker 4>a two term prime minister, that he was thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>the next election when he won the first one, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think because of that, his first term was quite measured.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't want to go beyond his first term mandate.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think the question now that a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people have is that with this huge victory, is there

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<v Speaker 4>a case for a more bold Alberisi government. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>think we will see that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ambition was certainly put to the Prime Minister by

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<v Speaker 2>journalists during the camp and it was something that he

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<v Speaker 2>addressed at the first Prime minister or press conference back

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<v Speaker 2>at Parliament House when he got back to work.

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<v Speaker 12>We're not getting carried away. We're in an orderly government.

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<v Speaker 12>We're being a reform government. The thing that I reject

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<v Speaker 12>is the idea that we haven't been ambitious. Look at

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<v Speaker 12>our agenda on the clean energy economy, on childcare, on

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<v Speaker 12>gender equality, on education, where we went beyond where we

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<v Speaker 12>said we would.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't problem.

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<v Speaker 2>He does have space, though I would say to be

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<v Speaker 2>more ambitious. What he has now is a large mandate

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<v Speaker 2>from the voters, being that he has a seat buffer

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<v Speaker 2>so large, and a lot more possibility of getting items

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<v Speaker 2>through the Senate, even though he has to depend on

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens. But I do know, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the two term strategy, he's a prime minister

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<v Speaker 2>who's now confidently looking at the possibility of a third term.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also I would have to say, he really talked

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<v Speaker 2>about big reforms of past labor governments, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>that we're talking there about medicare and superannuation, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>been talking up himself about the move towards universal Chelsea's

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<v Speaker 2>something he's going to set in and have a legacy item.

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<v Speaker 2>But certainly this is a prime minister who has confidence,

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<v Speaker 2>he has swagger, and he'll probably need to check himself

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<v Speaker 2>throughout his term to not get ahead of himself like

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<v Speaker 2>he promised he wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Karen, thank you so much for your time today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Also in the news today, US President Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 4>praised Anthony Alberzi on his election victory, telling reporters in

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<v Speaker 4>the US the pair are very friendly, while proclaiming to

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<v Speaker 4>have quote no idea who the other person is that

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<v Speaker 4>run against him. The statement comes as Alberanzi confirmed in

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<v Speaker 4>his first Prime ministerial press conference that he had a

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<v Speaker 4>warm conversation with Trump and promise the two leaders would

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<v Speaker 4>meet soon, and in the same Prime ministerial press conference,

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<v Speaker 4>Albanesi confirmed his number one priority for the new government

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<v Speaker 4>is reducing student debt. The government promised to cut student

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<v Speaker 4>debt by twenty percent if re elected, amounting to about

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen billion dollars of debt forgiveness applied to Hex's help debt,

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<v Speaker 4>as well as vocational education and apprenticeship support loans. Albanzi

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<v Speaker 4>said he expects the legislation to pass before the start

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<v Speaker 4>of the next financial year. I'm Ruby Jones. This is

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<v Speaker 4>seven am. See you tomorrow.