WEBVTT - Manifest With Zoe Marshall

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<v Speaker 1>Apodjay Production.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.

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<v Speaker 2>People are talking to me and they are not physically

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<v Speaker 2>in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't

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<v Speaker 2>call me crazy because I said it first. Whoever's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,

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<v Speaker 2>just bring it on. Let's do it, Crazy Crazy Crazy

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<v Speaker 2>the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. I am extremely,

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<v Speaker 2>extremely excited about today's guest and today's podcast episode. It

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feels a bit full circle as well, because

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful guest that I've got on today kind of

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<v Speaker 2>popped into my life randomly over a year ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I actually went on her podcast and it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a terrifying, incredible, wild moment for me as much as

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<v Speaker 2>it was for her as well. And of course I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the beautiful Zoe Marshall. Hello, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it wasn't terrifying for you. I like, was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? Your first one? Talk to me about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't want to interview you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Got that I slip.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help it. Yeah, Like that was literally not

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<v Speaker 2>my first podcast, but you did break my home and

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to channeling, like doing a reading on a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was like that felt this like the scariest

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the whole wide world. I feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>was at a really transformative time for you, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so beautiful to see you over a year later, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I actually just got goosebumps because it really

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<v Speaker 2>you've gone from the deep to arise, and like there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much in that. I said to you the other

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<v Speaker 2>night that like you're you are literally a phoenix, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to talk about this beautiful, incredible course and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like it's so much more than that that

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<v Speaker 2>you've created around manifestation and not in just the like

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<v Speaker 2>here's how you manifest, here are the five steps and

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<v Speaker 2>you just imagine it. Like I'm so excited to hear

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<v Speaker 2>how you got how you went from the deep to arise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, beautiful question. So I remember when I spoke to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of in the midst of a existential crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>I had been so overworked as a content creator on

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<v Speaker 1>social media as well as sitting in vicarious trauma on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those deep episodes. I could never separate

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<v Speaker 1>myself from the guests, and their traumas range from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>severe child sexual abuse to mass murders to ah, there

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<v Speaker 1>were aliens. I mean like, there was such a various range,

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<v Speaker 1>but essentially it was trauma and resilience based. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you, I was in a really terrible spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I had become so numb with my life. I had

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<v Speaker 1>had a recent health scare, I'd found a lump in

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<v Speaker 1>my breast, and we'd had a flood in our house,

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<v Speaker 1>And instead of processing those feelings healthily, I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>overwork and going to safety seeking behavior of making money

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<v Speaker 1>to feel safe. And the more I worked, the more

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<v Speaker 1>disconnected I got, and the more disconnected I got, the

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<v Speaker 1>more numb I got, and the more numb I got,

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't even understand what life meant. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't suicidal, but I was definitely like I was asking

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<v Speaker 1>my husband, are you happy? How do you feel? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel purposeful? Are you like in this in this loop?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Ugh? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this it? And he was like, in fact, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been happier ever with my family, with my life,

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<v Speaker 1>with my career, with my purpose I'm very worried about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ship you off to a place called

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<v Speaker 1>Eden Health Retreat with one of your oldest friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to figure this out. And I was just

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<v Speaker 1>there so angry, so angry, like I remember just being

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<v Speaker 1>like a petulant little child, like with the room they

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<v Speaker 1>gave me. I hated it. It was disgusting and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a word. I was in the worst space.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had a beautiful nervous system reset session where

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<v Speaker 1>I had a breakdown and a breakthrough, and it truly

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<v Speaker 1>was the healing I needed to get where I am today.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right, it's like full it's a full year

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<v Speaker 1>to her arrived here. You know, I had to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where I was. I got back from

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<v Speaker 1>that retreat and I shut down and walked half the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was like it took me another you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six months to really go. I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>more of this I can do with social media. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we have to change that. And then it took

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<v Speaker 1>me another few months to be like, Okay, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing the deep anymore. Like I felt as such a

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<v Speaker 1>commitment to the listeners, like they're so cult like They're

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<v Speaker 1>so obsessed and so supportive, and I was like, fuck, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I just not make this? It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>my service to the world to be able to share

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<v Speaker 1>these stories. And then I had this kind of epiphany

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<v Speaker 1>to hold this manifestation workshop really slap dash over three months,

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<v Speaker 1>one session a month with one of my coaches over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, and it just went so wild, like sold

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<v Speaker 1>out like bananas, and I was like, I recorded another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of The Deep that week, and it hit me

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<v Speaker 1>in the gut and I was like, this feels so awful.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm teaching people how to be in true alignment and

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<v Speaker 1>feel good all the time because they are magnetic to

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<v Speaker 1>more good things. Yet every week I am bringing in

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<v Speaker 1>someone else's trauma and I don't have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>have space. So I felt like what I was teaching

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<v Speaker 1>with this manifestation workshop and what I was living was

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<v Speaker 1>not aligned. So it was that day, in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I won't do this anymore. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very second. Yeah, so long story shot. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>answered that in like six minutes. No, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take twenty she monologues.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I was here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, So it wasn't like the deep was this slow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's been I wouldn't say it's an end,

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally an evolution. Like I think you need the

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<v Speaker 1>deep to arise, like quite literally, yes, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the difference between what I teach and what others

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<v Speaker 1>teach is that arise manifestation has been misunderstood and I

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<v Speaker 1>think accessed only by the privileged, yes, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel like, because I've sat with the most

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<v Speaker 1>horrendous stories and people of you know, across a spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, everybody needs to be able to access this work,

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<v Speaker 1>not just people that are white, affluent and bored.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, this needs to be accessible to if you

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<v Speaker 1>were seriously at rock bottom and you're not okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I started. And so I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing was born from and literally arise, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>the practical definition of a rizing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting to me because like obviously there's I

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<v Speaker 2>guess when I imagine the deep, and when you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how you it's like you you went so deep

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<v Speaker 2>into people's stories and so deep into your own, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've done so much, so much juicy deep

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<v Speaker 2>work within yourself. And then also understanding it and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>it within the realm of people outside of you. I

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<v Speaker 2>always think to be able to have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 2>go up, you also have to be able to hold

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<v Speaker 2>the capacity to go down. And the further that you can,

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<v Speaker 2>the deeper that you can go, the higher up that

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<v Speaker 2>you can arise as well, because I think it just

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<v Speaker 2>like really strengthens your I mean even like you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're listening to people's story and within every single episode,

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<v Speaker 2>in every single interview that you're doing, your capacity for

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<v Speaker 2>compassion understanding of others is just growing so exponentially, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think, like when you were talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just for the privilege. I think this is why

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<v Speaker 2>you can really hold that space so well, because you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard the story of so many Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's really important that everything is accessible,

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<v Speaker 1>like the education is accessible, the price point is accessible.

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<v Speaker 1>That your emotional capacity or ability and understanding it's accessible.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? So it's not talking to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>as if I have done all of the work and

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<v Speaker 1>get all the nuances, like I'm meeting everybody where they're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think there's this real disservice that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teachers in a spiritual space take you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>they talk over people and above people, and it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>intellectualized and egoic. And I think that that has been

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<v Speaker 1>really important is this isn't just for the people that

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<v Speaker 1>have heard the word manifestation. It's for the people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what this even is, has never seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of it, like what a weird concept is?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that is it's also for them? Yeah that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well what is what is manifestation to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, So I think let me give you the

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream version first, which is I think there's a misconception

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<v Speaker 1>that you ask for something and you wait for it

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<v Speaker 1>to land in your lap. Yes, right, like, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually called a wish. That's not manifestation. So I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of re named the word co creation because what it

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<v Speaker 1>requires is for you to call in something and then

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<v Speaker 1>take aligned action alongside the universe, God, Mother, nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the angels, whoever, to co create this. So the energy

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<v Speaker 1>that you're putting out by your mindset, there's all of

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<v Speaker 1>these tools and techniques that we can get into, but

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<v Speaker 1>using gratitude priming and then taking physical action is magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>to the universe, but you need to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>right vibration to attract the thing you're asking. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you're asking for a meaningful, loving relationship but you

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<v Speaker 1>know internally that you really lack self worth or self love,

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<v Speaker 1>or you have trust issues with your past partners because

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<v Speaker 1>you witnessed your parents dynamic, or you've witnes something growing

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<v Speaker 1>up that's a block. So you can't just wish for something,

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<v Speaker 1>take the aligned action and then not address the blocks

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<v Speaker 1>because the blocks are very informative to what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in your subconscious And then we go into the subconscious

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<v Speaker 1>mind and we heal those blocks, and then we hand

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<v Speaker 1>it over to trust. Then you land in what I

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<v Speaker 1>call the abyss, which is when you've called it in.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done all the work, but you're waiting for it

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and you're like, where the fuck is my thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I've done all the work. And that's the trickiest part,

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<v Speaker 1>right because that's deep, surrendered, deep trust knowing what is

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<v Speaker 1>for you will find you. And then that can take

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how big your manifestation is. I could take weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>that could take months. So I've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years and I'm still so deeply uncomfortable in the abyss,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is the place in which you need to

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<v Speaker 1>trust that the thing is coming for you. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like baking a cake, right, You put all the

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<v Speaker 1>ingredients in and you mixed up. You put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the oven, but then you keep opening the oven and

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<v Speaker 1>pulling the cake out and pushing on the cake and

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<v Speaker 1>mixing the cake, and then you put it back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you pull it back out, then you put it

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<v Speaker 1>back in, then you pull it like, let the cake bake.

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<v Speaker 1>The time is going to go off. You've done everything

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<v Speaker 1>you needed to do, and wait for the cake to

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<v Speaker 1>arrive or arrive yes, right, And so I think that

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<v Speaker 1>this whole process and then celebration is the final part,

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<v Speaker 1>is truly celebrating that you did this thing. Every single person,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who you are, nor what matter your background,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the ability to do this. So we always

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<v Speaker 1>make it feel like a manifestation has to be a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>a person, money, a job like outside of us. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people purely want to manifest ease, yes, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy or connection, you know. So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to really meet people where they're at.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, like many many years ago, when I was

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<v Speaker 2>sort of first just like trying to dabble in the

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<v Speaker 2>manifestation thing. And I did the you know, I watched

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<v Speaker 2>the Secret, I read the book. I sat there like

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<v Speaker 2>imagining the new car that I was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in all of those Like I did all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, where the fuck is my car?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I manifesting? What is going on? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so interesting, like this journey right that you just

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<v Speaker 2>explained this, It's like you're having to be almost really

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<v Speaker 2>honest with yourself more than anything, because you can sit

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<v Speaker 2>there and you can say I deserve a new car.

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<v Speaker 2>I deserve a new car. I deserve a new car,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're subconscious, and like it's interesting we have like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we don't have a great connection with our subconscious,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're not really listening to what it's really telling

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<v Speaker 2>us or you know, as you said, where those blocks

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<v Speaker 2>kind of are living. But like when you're really honest

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<v Speaker 2>with yourself and it's like, well, do I really think

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm worthy of that? Probably not, like if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being completely honest with myself, no, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 2>meeting ourself in these places, like it's kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>journey you've been on. You have to get deep to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to actually figure out what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you deserve because there are these like these stories that

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<v Speaker 2>live within us that we haven't even met yet because

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<v Speaker 2>we try not to meet these parts of ourselves because

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<v Speaker 2>they're not as likable, they're not as like comfortable. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 1>It also has to be realistic, which is annoying for

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<v Speaker 1>some people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, say fifteen years ago, I really wanted to push, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I just really really wanted to push. And at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had a went from a ship box

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<v Speaker 1>like Hey and I or something that broke down all

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<v Speaker 1>the time that was like forty years old into a

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<v Speaker 1>v dub Golf. For me, that was a real realistic

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<v Speaker 1>step for where I was financially what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that felt like a Porsche, right, and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I treated that car love that car felt abundant.

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<v Speaker 1>In that car. The next car was like we had

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<v Speaker 1>all these sponsored cars because of my husband's work. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you're deeply grateful we don't even have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for a car, you know, because it came through that

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<v Speaker 1>there's all these cars, right, And then there was a

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes and that felt great. And then I got my Porsche, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my dream car that I would manifest every day,

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<v Speaker 1>holding that steering well, seeing that symbol, doing that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be really honest, because I had evolved with

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<v Speaker 1>how I felt and what I was, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>I could co create. It didn't feel too It felt

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<v Speaker 1>really exciting and special to start, but it didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>so outside of me. Does that make sense? It felt

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<v Speaker 1>because it was realistic. We've gotten to this point where

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<v Speaker 1>you've leveled up, leveled up, leveled up, leveled up. But

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<v Speaker 1>then now because I've just gone through this whole health

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<v Speaker 1>scare thing again, you know, my husband wants a new

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<v Speaker 1>Car's like, take my car. I'll get a little MG,

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<v Speaker 1>a little yonda like, I don't care. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>the Porshe anymore. Right, what the push symbolized for me

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<v Speaker 1>and myself worth fifteen years ago, when I was broken

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just got out of this horrific relationship

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<v Speaker 1>and my mama died and my family betrayed me and

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<v Speaker 1>all the things happened, A Porshe symbolized to me all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I wanted to be and do and have.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have the push, I don't need it. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me any car like and give me anything like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need things to make me feel worth anything anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? Yes? Yeah, where do you like?

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually about to ask this in regards to manifesting,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess things first. Manifesting how you want to feel,

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<v Speaker 2>how you want your life to look like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>the things that like? What have you found in that

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<v Speaker 2>have you manifest kind of like that story where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you got the Porsche, but then it was like

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<v Speaker 2>more about what the Porsche represented. It's less about the

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<v Speaker 2>thing itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's it. It's never about the thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always about the feeling. It's exactly the same thing what

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<v Speaker 1>you think you want as in like a thing or

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<v Speaker 1>money or people or a house or a job. You

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<v Speaker 1>are looking for the feeling. So essentially it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People just name it differently. We're always looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like what it represents. Yeah. So so you might

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<v Speaker 1>say I really really want a job opportunity, or I

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<v Speaker 1>want a raise, or I want something to make me

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<v Speaker 1>feel more affluent, but truly you just want to feel heard,

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<v Speaker 1>respected and abundant. It's exactly the same thing. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can focus on that job being the thing, like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same edge. What do they call it, the same

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<v Speaker 1>side of the coin or yeah, something like that, the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. It's the same thing. It's just exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. So if the feeling, if you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to feel joyful and happy and you know, of service

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<v Speaker 1>and rich in all of the ways you could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>feel that starts internally within you. The universe will meet

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<v Speaker 1>you with opportunities, people, places, things fun like material stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that mirror that feeling. But you're feeling that anyway. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's kind of the secret. Not the book,

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<v Speaker 1>but the secret of all of this is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to feel that intrinsically in you at all times, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so when that moment comes up where you're like

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't actually deserve that, you're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that there's probably some you know, wiring here

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<v Speaker 1>from zero to seven, seven to fourteen. Let's go in.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a look, you know, and then we've got

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<v Speaker 1>the work. We've got the inner child work that we

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<v Speaker 1>can do. We've got the meditations, we've got all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've been in one of our workshops, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that we hold in our community. We have all

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<v Speaker 1>of these beautiful facilitators to get you into alignment and

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<v Speaker 1>face your blocks and move through them in lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways and tapping. You know, We've got all of

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<v Speaker 1>these modalities that work, and it just has to be

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<v Speaker 1>what works for you. You have to find your way

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<v Speaker 1>through this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, which I really love because I always think, like everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone has their different gateweight drug. Yes, true into themselves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what it really is, right. It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>actually meeting yourself, being honest with yourself about what it

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<v Speaker 2>is that you really want and why it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you think that you can't have that, and then figuring

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<v Speaker 2>out all the little different parts of you and the

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<v Speaker 2>stories within that that are kind of stopping that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really interesting because you know, it took me

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, as I'm sure it did with you

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<v Speaker 1>two to be public and to go Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about co creation and manifestation. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>media background, I have lots of peers in the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care anymore. This is the truest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>me and I have to share this with the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and Australia is not ready but it never will be,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll get it to be ready. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>did it, but for so long it stopped me because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Okay, so what are my credentials, what are

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<v Speaker 1>my I you know, what kind of evidence do I

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<v Speaker 1>have to share and show? And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy shit, my whole life is the evidence. Micky. You

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<v Speaker 1>can pick one area of my life and be like

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<v Speaker 1>house husband, this that work, and I'll be like it

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<v Speaker 1>was a manifestation, you know, every single element. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, now I'm not going to be scared anymore

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<v Speaker 1>of skeptics and of people that don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've I've got neuroscientists on board just for

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<v Speaker 1>the skeptics by the way. Yeah, but I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do this because people need it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it saved my life. Like and I know that sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but not manifestation in the way that you know it

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<v Speaker 1>with every modality and tool and technique around it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>deeply anchored in gratitude, deeply anchored in service, like all

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. That's we don't see that as manifestation,

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<v Speaker 1>but it truly is. You know, if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>like give it one title and then it's a lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't just kind of dip in and out. It

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<v Speaker 1>changes how you are in the world. It changes everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard this thing the other day. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>if you've heard this, but I think you really like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the word manifestation in French and also a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other languages, is that is how they that's their

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<v Speaker 2>word for kind of like protesting when they go out

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<v Speaker 2>on the streets when they and they don't call it

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<v Speaker 2>protesting it's like someone else it's like, but they call

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<v Speaker 2>it manifestation because manifestation to them is I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make change, We want things to happen, and so we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get out in the streets and make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>When I heard that, like, I've got full body shit,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, like seeing that on a collective level though,

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<v Speaker 2>like understanding that because often we think about manifestation and

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<v Speaker 2>like for ourselves and of course, but I never even

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<v Speaker 2>really thought about using it and seeing it in a

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<v Speaker 2>collective way. And I was just like, that's fucking cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And it makes sense, Like it just makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing about this is this isn't new. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like this has been around before we were around like

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<v Speaker 1>it just is. It's an energetic law, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>either believe it or you don't, but it's working anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I was like, Okay, well, if it's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get in on the good stuff, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have the ability to create anything you want, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're very confused by the laws and society's terms and

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<v Speaker 1>what our parents did, Like it's all so confusing that

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<v Speaker 1>we go there's got to be a better way. And

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<v Speaker 1>then people, you know, I think that's why in COVID

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, Manifestation was googled six hundred and sixty percent

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<v Speaker 1>more than any other time, and that just goes up

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<v Speaker 1>because I think people were finally at a point where

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, isn't systeming? Who am I now? What

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<v Speaker 1>can I do? What can I be? And so it

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<v Speaker 1>was this incredible you have infinite possibility in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's so true. It's like it took the

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<v Speaker 1>it took the veil away for all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>were skeptical, and now everyone's in and you can hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear that word on the street, you hear it

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<v Speaker 1>in shows, you're hearing it and you're like, Okay, great.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's becoming more mainstream, but do people actually know.

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<v Speaker 2>What to do, yes, and what it really means as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember like speaking of the co creation of things

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<v Speaker 2>and coming from I guess like a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>psychicy perspective, which of course that's what I'm here to do. Yeah.

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.481
<v Speaker 2>I remember this moment really clearly, and I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it on the podcast before that. I was literally

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen just cooking one day and one of

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<v Speaker 2>my kids went to put their hand near the stove

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, no, dulling, that is really hot,

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<v Speaker 2>and they fought me about it. They were like, why

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<v Speaker 2>can't I touch it? And I said, because it's hot,

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<v Speaker 2>it will burn your fingers. And it got to this

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<v Speaker 2>stage where eventually I just went, just trust me. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been on this earth longer than you have. And my

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 2>guides popped on in and they went, do you get that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand that it's a really similar thing? And

0:26:26.281 --> 0:26:29.121
<v Speaker 2>they basically showed to me in that moment that our

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with saw, Spirit, God, universe, guides, all of the above,

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<v Speaker 2>and us is really fucking similar to the relationship between

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<v Speaker 2>parent and child. If you are a parent, you know

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<v Speaker 2>and think about it, you know, like if your child

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<v Speaker 2>comes up to you and says, I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>do ballet, I really really want to be a ballerina

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<v Speaker 2>when I grow up, you, as a parent, will do

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<v Speaker 2>everything in your power to make that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>You are the universe. But you can't do it if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't tell you. And you can't make them a ballerina.

0:27:09.360 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>You can't make them a professional ballerina. You can give

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<v Speaker 2>them opportunities, you can like do everything that you can

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to support them. And you know, this is like like

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>you know within no, but I get it totally, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I and ever since then, I'm like, that makes

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<v Speaker 2>so much sense to me. Like spirit can't fucking like

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<v Speaker 2>make my arms and legs move and take me places

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<v Speaker 2>and call up the people I need to call up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can do that, and I can keep telling

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.721
<v Speaker 2>them this is what I really want to do. I

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 2>need you to help. I want you to help me

0:27:39.281 --> 0:27:43.001
<v Speaker 2>make it happen. And they're like, fuck, yes, get moving,

0:27:43.281 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:49.041
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is they're always expecting you to live

0:27:49.201 --> 0:27:52.321
<v Speaker 1>as you're higher self, Like they're always expecting you to

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.001
<v Speaker 1>like where the ones letting them down constantly from being

0:27:55.041 --> 0:27:57.761
<v Speaker 1>so human. You know, they're like we're ready, We're ready

0:27:57.801 --> 0:28:00.601
<v Speaker 1>to meet you, Like are you ready, Like we're still here,

0:28:00.721 --> 0:28:03.801
<v Speaker 1>like come on, let's do all the good stuff. And

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you're having this like know, spiral human experience totally, and

0:28:09.241 --> 0:28:12.441
<v Speaker 1>I think that of Huanity, right. And also just going

0:28:12.481 --> 0:28:14.281
<v Speaker 1>back to that parent thing, I was expecting you to

0:28:14.321 --> 0:28:17.721
<v Speaker 1>tell your child just to touch the stove, right, because

0:28:18.360 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>there's this also this element in the universe is like

0:28:21.360 --> 0:28:25.681
<v Speaker 1>you're the human is going to fuck up and do

0:28:25.761 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the cycle for as long as it needs to do

0:28:27.681 --> 0:28:29.321
<v Speaker 1>the cycle till it's ready.

0:28:30.281 --> 0:28:30.481
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.401
<v Speaker 1>So as much as the parent or the universe can

0:28:33.441 --> 0:28:38.001
<v Speaker 1>assist in the ballet or the safety that child will

0:28:38.081 --> 0:28:41.801
<v Speaker 1>need to learn, however many times it needs to learn,

0:28:41.881 --> 0:28:44.601
<v Speaker 1>we cannot take away. Of course, we keep them safe,

0:28:45.161 --> 0:28:48.801
<v Speaker 1>but we cannot take away their moments of discomfort in

0:28:48.841 --> 0:28:54.561
<v Speaker 1>the school yard or finding belonging or dealing with betrayal

0:28:54.721 --> 0:29:01.321
<v Speaker 1>like that is a human necessity to require depth and character,

0:29:01.641 --> 0:29:04.281
<v Speaker 1>and so we always want to like save our kids,

0:29:04.641 --> 0:29:08.121
<v Speaker 1>but they really need to experience all of it, right,

0:29:08.521 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And just like the universe is like, well, experience the

0:29:10.961 --> 0:29:13.841
<v Speaker 1>whole world. Yeah, and then come back to me and

0:29:13.881 --> 0:29:15.761
<v Speaker 1>tell me what you really want and then we can

0:29:15.801 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>do that together.

0:29:17.561 --> 0:29:21.161
<v Speaker 2>How do you look at because like even speaking to that,

0:29:21.441 --> 0:29:24.201
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you and I both kind of can

0:29:24.281 --> 0:29:28.041
<v Speaker 2>feel into the hardest moments of our life are also

0:29:28.561 --> 0:29:32.401
<v Speaker 2>there's so much gratitude in that sometimes because without it,

0:29:32.481 --> 0:29:37.281
<v Speaker 2>that's where we learned so much understanding, capacity for others,

0:29:37.361 --> 0:29:41.001
<v Speaker 2>so much compassion. It gives us strength, it gives us resilience.

0:29:41.321 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>There's so much that's to it. So how do you

0:29:43.521 --> 0:29:46.241
<v Speaker 2>explain that to people? Like, do you do we try

0:29:46.281 --> 0:29:48.841
<v Speaker 2>and find gratitude in the hard times.

0:29:49.841 --> 0:29:53.641
<v Speaker 1>I think there's two types of people, Okay. I think

0:29:53.681 --> 0:29:58.481
<v Speaker 1>that there are people that experience trauma and they come

0:29:58.561 --> 0:30:01.881
<v Speaker 1>through it and grow and see the world differently and

0:30:02.401 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>have have more breadth and depth and understanding. And then

0:30:06.041 --> 0:30:11.201
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a smaller group of people that let

0:30:11.241 --> 0:30:15.281
<v Speaker 1>trauma define them and ruin them. You know, it makes

0:30:15.321 --> 0:30:18.321
<v Speaker 1>them bitter, it makes them smaller, it makes them loop

0:30:18.361 --> 0:30:20.881
<v Speaker 1>in the negative. They don't want to come out. They're

0:30:20.961 --> 0:30:24.281
<v Speaker 1>so okay with being defined by their trauma. This is

0:30:24.321 --> 0:30:27.121
<v Speaker 1>who they are now, this is where they find their meaning,

0:30:27.241 --> 0:30:33.681
<v Speaker 1>this is their identity. And it's funny we cannot impose

0:30:33.801 --> 0:30:38.761
<v Speaker 1>anything on anybody. All I know is that from my

0:30:39.001 --> 0:30:46.481
<v Speaker 1>experience and my last most recent traumatic experience, was I

0:30:46.601 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>really got that choice again. I think it comes up

0:30:49.281 --> 0:30:52.561
<v Speaker 1>every time. It comes up every time that we're given

0:30:53.561 --> 0:30:59.361
<v Speaker 1>a difficult moment. We can either spiral into the unknown

0:30:59.601 --> 0:31:04.241
<v Speaker 1>and wanting answers and wanting certainty and wanting control, or

0:31:04.281 --> 0:31:09.241
<v Speaker 1>we can trust that this has happened, it was going

0:31:09.281 --> 0:31:14.041
<v Speaker 1>to happen, it was supposed to happen, and from that experience,

0:31:14.201 --> 0:31:16.801
<v Speaker 1>we trust that whatever is meant for us will be.

0:31:17.881 --> 0:31:23.881
<v Speaker 1>And when I was waiting for this diagnosis or these

0:31:23.961 --> 0:31:27.401
<v Speaker 1>results for a lump in my breast, this is the

0:31:27.441 --> 0:31:31.881
<v Speaker 1>second time we've done this now in eighteen months. The

0:31:31.961 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>first time was a very different experience for me. So

0:31:34.521 --> 0:31:38.081
<v Speaker 1>I can't say that the second time was different because

0:31:38.081 --> 0:31:42.561
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't experienced the first right, But the second experience,

0:31:44.001 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely padded by all of the knowledge and practice that

0:31:48.241 --> 0:31:54.161
<v Speaker 1>I'm currently in, was like, I literally can do nothing

0:31:54.481 --> 0:31:58.161
<v Speaker 1>with this information until I hear what it is. There

0:31:58.241 --> 0:32:02.361
<v Speaker 1>is nothing helpful about me going into worst case scenarios

0:32:02.761 --> 0:32:06.121
<v Speaker 1>planning my funeral, talking to my husband and about remarrying.

0:32:06.481 --> 0:32:11.641
<v Speaker 1>Doing all of those things, which essentially is putting those

0:32:11.641 --> 0:32:14.721
<v Speaker 1>things into as a vibe, putting them out there. It's

0:32:14.801 --> 0:32:18.041
<v Speaker 1>not helpful. It's not helpful to my nervous system, it's

0:32:18.041 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>not helpful to the energy that people are picking up

0:32:20.201 --> 0:32:22.081
<v Speaker 1>around me. So what I'm going to do is, I'm

0:32:22.121 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>purely going to trust that the greatest gifts are coming

0:32:26.761 --> 0:32:30.201
<v Speaker 1>whatever the result is. If the result was cancer, and

0:32:30.241 --> 0:32:32.121
<v Speaker 1>it was this is our process and this is what

0:32:32.161 --> 0:32:35.041
<v Speaker 1>we're doing, and this is your life, and you've got

0:32:36.321 --> 0:32:39.001
<v Speaker 1>X amount of time to live, that is my story

0:32:40.281 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and there it has to be surrendered to that and

0:32:42.601 --> 0:32:45.241
<v Speaker 1>trust in that. And that's incredibly hard and I'm sure

0:32:45.321 --> 0:32:49.041
<v Speaker 1>so triggering for so many people listening, and hard for

0:32:49.121 --> 0:32:51.801
<v Speaker 1>me to even say, having lost a mother that way

0:32:52.681 --> 0:32:54.801
<v Speaker 1>and all of the fallout and pain of that, like

0:32:54.841 --> 0:32:58.361
<v Speaker 1>I can't even I can imagine it as a child myself,

0:32:58.401 --> 0:33:00.361
<v Speaker 1>but to put that onto my own child, I cannot

0:33:00.361 --> 0:33:04.401
<v Speaker 1>even fathom. But what else would I do with this information?

0:33:05.481 --> 0:33:08.961
<v Speaker 1>Is the information and then turning up to the information

0:33:09.121 --> 0:33:14.481
<v Speaker 1>with deep trust you have your accessibility to having options

0:33:14.521 --> 0:33:17.121
<v Speaker 1>around that is so different. How you're going to respond.

0:33:17.241 --> 0:33:19.921
<v Speaker 1>I mean, cancer loves stress. Do I want to be

0:33:19.961 --> 0:33:21.801
<v Speaker 1>in a stress response. Do I want to be in

0:33:21.801 --> 0:33:24.321
<v Speaker 1>a gratitude response to where I want to be surrounding

0:33:24.321 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>myself with joy and laughter and funny films, just like

0:33:27.481 --> 0:33:29.401
<v Speaker 1>The Secret. Does you know there's that woman that talks

0:33:29.441 --> 0:33:34.841
<v Speaker 1>about her cancer experience. It's like you get to arrive

0:33:35.001 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to information in different ways, and that's the power I

0:33:40.321 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>think of a rise and co creation. It's like you

0:33:43.361 --> 0:33:46.401
<v Speaker 1>don't just get this shitty thing to happen and that's

0:33:46.441 --> 0:33:48.081
<v Speaker 1>the end of the line, and you just spiral in

0:33:48.121 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the world. Shit, It's like, no, we now, okay, this

0:33:51.401 --> 0:33:55.241
<v Speaker 1>is an initiation, right, like the phoenix rising out of

0:33:55.321 --> 0:34:00.321
<v Speaker 1>the fire. Again, this is another opportunity And so what

0:34:00.321 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>are you going to do?

0:34:03.401 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 2>How old was your mom when she was? Was she?

0:34:07.401 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>And she when she was d one? So like ten

0:34:14.521 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>years older than me now, which is like crazy, yeah

0:34:17.481 --> 0:34:18.561
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Yeah.

0:34:18.641 --> 0:34:23.041
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Like so for anyone who hasn't heard sort of

0:34:23.081 --> 0:34:25.321
<v Speaker 2>like the backstory of it, and because I did actually

0:34:25.321 --> 0:34:31.961
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about this because it's almost the cycle

0:34:32.281 --> 0:34:35.641
<v Speaker 2>of this, and I guess listening to it from an

0:34:35.681 --> 0:34:40.121
<v Speaker 2>outsider's perspective and someone who was like sat with you,

0:34:40.121 --> 0:34:42.521
<v Speaker 2>you know last year when you were going through this like,

0:34:42.601 --> 0:34:45.801
<v Speaker 2>as you call it, existential crisis, after you've just had

0:34:45.921 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of like just heard this potential diagnosis to then

0:34:50.641 --> 0:34:54.801
<v Speaker 2>like a year later, Arise is literally about to launch

0:34:55.721 --> 0:35:01.921
<v Speaker 2>and you hit the same potential diagnosis. Yeah, to move

0:35:02.081 --> 0:35:05.161
<v Speaker 2>through it and the story to look different is it's

0:35:05.241 --> 0:35:06.241
<v Speaker 2>really interesting.

0:35:07.041 --> 0:35:17.241
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's heavily confronting. Yeah. And there's something about like

0:35:17.481 --> 0:35:21.801
<v Speaker 1>losing a parent and going through a trauma that you

0:35:22.041 --> 0:35:27.081
<v Speaker 1>feel you're stained with the potential of having the thing

0:35:27.721 --> 0:35:31.641
<v Speaker 1>and having their experience. You know, I'm sure lots of

0:35:31.721 --> 0:35:35.521
<v Speaker 1>people that have lost a parent to cancer feel like

0:35:35.561 --> 0:35:38.521
<v Speaker 1>a shadow lurking around them that it could maybe be

0:35:38.641 --> 0:35:41.881
<v Speaker 1>them one day, you know, even though you like can

0:35:41.921 --> 0:35:45.841
<v Speaker 1>go about your life normally, it's always just there if

0:35:45.881 --> 0:35:47.881
<v Speaker 1>there's a pain, or if there's a twinge, or if

0:35:47.921 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a something. And so I think it's been a

0:35:55.001 --> 0:36:02.121
<v Speaker 1>really huge lesson for me around my grief, but also

0:36:02.241 --> 0:36:03.841
<v Speaker 1>around what my story is.

0:36:04.481 --> 0:36:04.681
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:04.721 --> 0:36:09.201
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think as children, we model our parents

0:36:09.321 --> 0:36:13.761
<v Speaker 1>so much from the way they behaved, the way they work,

0:36:13.801 --> 0:36:15.841
<v Speaker 1>and what industries they're in and all of the things

0:36:15.881 --> 0:36:18.001
<v Speaker 1>that even when they get a disease with there's some

0:36:18.041 --> 0:36:22.721
<v Speaker 1>part of us that thinks there's modeling in that, and

0:36:22.801 --> 0:36:27.841
<v Speaker 1>I just have to really trust that it's just not

0:36:27.961 --> 0:36:31.881
<v Speaker 1>my story, you know, But also like really learn from

0:36:31.921 --> 0:36:37.401
<v Speaker 1>the things that were presented to me through that two

0:36:37.481 --> 0:36:43.401
<v Speaker 1>weeks of waiting, you know, like are you best suited

0:36:43.601 --> 0:36:47.361
<v Speaker 1>to the amount of work, busy chaos that you're kind

0:36:47.401 --> 0:36:53.361
<v Speaker 1>of inclined towards. Are you stressing more than is needed?

0:36:53.521 --> 0:36:55.601
<v Speaker 1>Like what could change in your lifestyle? I want to

0:36:55.601 --> 0:36:57.441
<v Speaker 1>get rid of everything too, Mickey, Like I want to

0:36:57.481 --> 0:37:00.441
<v Speaker 1>get like the car and clothes, and I just don't

0:37:00.481 --> 0:37:04.401
<v Speaker 1>want things. I just I also want to get back

0:37:04.441 --> 0:37:07.041
<v Speaker 1>into the world. Like I think when we work so

0:37:07.201 --> 0:37:10.921
<v Speaker 1>heavily and we have small children and we're addicted to

0:37:10.961 --> 0:37:16.641
<v Speaker 1>the doing, we're actually not even outside experiencing life apart

0:37:16.681 --> 0:37:19.201
<v Speaker 1>from traumas that hit us that we're forced to deal with,

0:37:20.121 --> 0:37:23.561
<v Speaker 1>Like what are we actually doing outside of ourselves? What

0:37:23.601 --> 0:37:25.681
<v Speaker 1>are we experiencing in the world that we can come

0:37:25.721 --> 0:37:30.641
<v Speaker 1>back and be great and with more depth and breadth

0:37:30.681 --> 0:37:32.921
<v Speaker 1>apart from just trauma, you know.

0:37:34.361 --> 0:37:37.641
<v Speaker 2>I think we underestimate the power of tools, And I

0:37:37.681 --> 0:37:42.721
<v Speaker 2>think like a rise is in my experience so far

0:37:42.761 --> 0:37:49.841
<v Speaker 2>of it is just having really potent tools because the

0:37:49.921 --> 0:37:53.441
<v Speaker 2>thing is like a lot of the time we especially

0:37:53.481 --> 0:37:56.161
<v Speaker 2>in moments where we are just like I don't know

0:37:56.201 --> 0:37:59.881
<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing anymore. I'm really flustered. We need tangible shit.

0:38:00.601 --> 0:38:03.801
<v Speaker 2>We need things that are going to be like if

0:38:03.841 --> 0:38:07.281
<v Speaker 2>I do this, you know, like there're things that because

0:38:07.321 --> 0:38:11.441
<v Speaker 2>even just the intention of whatever the tool is, and

0:38:11.481 --> 0:38:13.721
<v Speaker 2>you know, we said, everyone's got their own different gateway

0:38:13.801 --> 0:38:17.521
<v Speaker 2>drug whatever works for them. But the intention of going

0:38:17.641 --> 0:38:20.321
<v Speaker 2>this is going to help me, this is going to

0:38:20.401 --> 0:38:23.161
<v Speaker 2>help bring me out of this is so powerful.

0:38:23.401 --> 0:38:27.321
<v Speaker 1>There is no way, and I've got a neuroscientist to

0:38:27.401 --> 0:38:31.601
<v Speaker 1>prove it that you don't practice this and your life

0:38:31.641 --> 0:38:35.841
<v Speaker 1>doesn't change for the better. There is no way that

0:38:35.961 --> 0:38:41.241
<v Speaker 1>if you start your mourning ritual and you can choose

0:38:41.281 --> 0:38:46.041
<v Speaker 1>what that looks like, but that's anchored ingratitude. There's some priming,

0:38:46.121 --> 0:38:49.321
<v Speaker 1>visualization manifestation in there, and you go into the world,

0:38:49.881 --> 0:38:53.481
<v Speaker 1>whether you stub your foot out of the bed and

0:38:53.521 --> 0:38:57.521
<v Speaker 1>your dog's vomited on the couch, right, the way you

0:38:57.561 --> 0:39:00.321
<v Speaker 1>will look at that if your mourning ritual is in

0:39:00.441 --> 0:39:07.681
<v Speaker 1>place vastly different. You are in control your mind, your

0:39:07.681 --> 0:39:11.681
<v Speaker 1>rearticular activation system. The way the tissue from the back

0:39:11.681 --> 0:39:14.241
<v Speaker 1>of your eye is connected to your brain. The way

0:39:14.281 --> 0:39:19.121
<v Speaker 1>you see the world if you've set yourself up for success,

0:39:19.401 --> 0:39:23.481
<v Speaker 1>is vastly different. So every single day me and the

0:39:23.561 --> 0:39:25.481
<v Speaker 1>kids get up, the first thing we say is it's

0:39:25.521 --> 0:39:28.041
<v Speaker 1>going to be a great day. Oh yeah, like that

0:39:28.321 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>when you're in an alpha state, when you wake up

0:39:30.921 --> 0:39:34.201
<v Speaker 1>saying something. And it could be opportunities find me. It

0:39:34.241 --> 0:39:37.521
<v Speaker 1>could be ease and flowers everywhere. It could be I

0:39:37.561 --> 0:39:40.121
<v Speaker 1>am deeply safe and loved. It could be any of

0:39:40.161 --> 0:39:44.841
<v Speaker 1>those things. You know that that is starting you and

0:39:44.881 --> 0:39:51.081
<v Speaker 1>you're in this alpha state between waking and sleeping. It's potent, right,

0:39:51.761 --> 0:39:54.721
<v Speaker 1>So you're using that and you're anchoring in and then

0:39:54.721 --> 0:39:57.721
<v Speaker 1>you start your morning ritual. Your reticular activation system is

0:39:57.761 --> 0:40:01.721
<v Speaker 1>looking for evidence to find that you're correct. Our brains

0:40:01.801 --> 0:40:04.561
<v Speaker 1>want to know that we're right. So you say it's

0:40:04.601 --> 0:40:08.801
<v Speaker 1>a great It will find evidence. It will go Oh,

0:40:08.841 --> 0:40:11.241
<v Speaker 1>the dog vomited on the couch. Thank god, it has

0:40:11.321 --> 0:40:14.721
<v Speaker 1>a really highly intellectual immune system that it can purge.

0:40:15.601 --> 0:40:17.521
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give it a little hug and clean up,

0:40:17.521 --> 0:40:21.441
<v Speaker 1>and thank god it's okay, versus the dog vomited on

0:40:21.481 --> 0:40:25.081
<v Speaker 1>the couch. You know what I'm saying. So it changed

0:40:25.121 --> 0:40:28.281
<v Speaker 1>your perspective changes in everything. And I think that is

0:40:28.841 --> 0:40:33.001
<v Speaker 1>you are then a magnet for miracles when you're in

0:40:33.041 --> 0:40:36.281
<v Speaker 1>that space, like you'll see you'll see all of the

0:40:36.281 --> 0:40:38.761
<v Speaker 1>things and you'll be like, ah, is this a coincidence

0:40:38.801 --> 0:40:40.721
<v Speaker 1>that the genes that I was about to purchase yesterday

0:40:40.721 --> 0:40:44.561
<v Speaker 1>in my cart are now fifty percent off? Like all

0:40:44.561 --> 0:40:46.321
<v Speaker 1>of these things, You'll just be like, is this, Oh

0:40:46.321 --> 0:40:49.001
<v Speaker 1>my god, I just bumped into an old friend. I

0:40:49.041 --> 0:40:51.441
<v Speaker 1>was just thinking about them, or I just got whatever.

0:40:51.481 --> 0:40:55.201
<v Speaker 1>It is. Like, we call them micro manifestations, and as

0:40:55.241 --> 0:40:59.361
<v Speaker 1>they evolve and as they develop, you build evidence you

0:40:59.401 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>can go into the bigger ones.

0:41:00.721 --> 0:41:03.961
<v Speaker 2>What I really loved about just that practice and everything

0:41:04.001 --> 0:41:06.921
<v Speaker 2>that you explain the science of it all was that

0:41:07.081 --> 0:41:10.801
<v Speaker 2>you wake up deciding, not deciding, but remembering that you're

0:41:10.841 --> 0:41:15.001
<v Speaker 2>in control. And I think that is really really, really powerful,

0:41:15.041 --> 0:41:19.441
<v Speaker 2>that autonomy and recognizing that. It's like it's not everything

0:41:19.521 --> 0:41:22.641
<v Speaker 2>happening to you. It's like, Okay, I'm in control of

0:41:22.641 --> 0:41:25.281
<v Speaker 2>my body. I'm in control of my mind and my life,

0:41:25.401 --> 0:41:29.121
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to really relinquish that control instead of

0:41:29.161 --> 0:41:31.841
<v Speaker 2>letting it have control over me exactly.

0:41:32.001 --> 0:41:34.681
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like are you on the back foot

0:41:34.761 --> 0:41:36.641
<v Speaker 1>or you on the front foot. Yeah, And that's why

0:41:36.761 --> 0:41:39.121
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, even to the skeptics, even if you took

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<v Speaker 1>spirituality and magnetism and the universe and all that out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you still will have the scientific backed stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that works, you know. And so I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is life changing for everybody, and I feel sad. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel sad that people haven't had access to it, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was it such simple stuff? Can you before we finish up,

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<v Speaker 1>can you explain a RISE for us? Because I know

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<v Speaker 1>so many people be listening to this now and they

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<v Speaker 1>will be like, what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>How the fuck do I get apart? How do I

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<v Speaker 2>join this?

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<v Speaker 1>A Rise is a platform about co creation, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are different pathways in right your gateway drug. So there

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<v Speaker 1>is the community element. The community is filled with like

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<v Speaker 1>minded people. It's the place when you start doing this

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<v Speaker 1>work and you're like, oh my gosh, my friends are

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<v Speaker 1>judging me, my family's judging me. Who can I share

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<v Speaker 1>this with I've had a huge win or I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a huge block. So that is a membership that gives

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<v Speaker 1>you access to the course for free within the price,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you've got access to me. So there's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of questions that come up, and I'm available to you.

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<v Speaker 1>We do Q and A over three days. You also

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<v Speaker 1>have amazing facilitators once a month come in and hold

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<v Speaker 1>workshops that you were a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw that that was that's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Kundolini Activation workshop was like mind blowing. So every week,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's it's a it's a place that you're held.

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<v Speaker 1>All the work is in that community.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you might go, I'm really new. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to try out this course. I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>all in yet. I just want to see if it's

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<v Speaker 1>for me, the course is then for you. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty nine bucks. It was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars and I was like, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be affordable. It cannot be two thousand dollars, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the value is two thousand. I was like, we cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've taken a little hit there, but I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the people need it. Yeah, I wonder if we

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<v Speaker 1>give them a code today, I'm just going row yeah, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah go people should we give like if you use

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<v Speaker 1>the code mickey, yeah, you get twenty five percent off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, perfect, I'll put it on my stories too.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have the app is almost being developed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost done. And then I'm writing the book as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak, so we're almost done. So it's truly a movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and there's workshops in person workshops. So the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm already sharing all of this because

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm not even allowed, but we have gotten wrong

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<v Speaker 1>Eden retreat where I had the nervous breakdown. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>this is such a fun manifestation story. I said to

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<v Speaker 1>my colleague Jewels, I said, you and I are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go away. I want us to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>health retreat. She was like, yeah, great. Sure. In my

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<v Speaker 1>inbox that day, the new GM of Eden was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to host you to come back to Eden.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a year. I feel like our brand's aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, thank you so much, nice to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you. It would only be if my colleague can

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<v Speaker 1>attend with me. He said, absolutely, no problem. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I say to him, I have an op oportunity for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to host a workshop for Eden, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I'll do one better. I think we do

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<v Speaker 1>Eden and arise for like five days over New Year's Eve.

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<v Speaker 1>You can bring in whatever facilitators you want. David the

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<v Speaker 1>medium is going to be there and I get to

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<v Speaker 1>hold these incredibly powerful events. Now, so all of this

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<v Speaker 1>is in the works. Tickets are not available for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I should definitely email them that I've shared all of

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<v Speaker 1>this and sorry. But you can access the course, you

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<v Speaker 1>can join the community. I promise you. It will change

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<v Speaker 1>your life. There's no way it cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>Put me on the waiting list. I'm coming, you're there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, can you imagine us together like bia

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony and oh my god, it'll be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for coming on to the village,

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<v Speaker 2>crazy lady, for sharing your beautiful story to just see

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<v Speaker 2>like the cycle come to where it is. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much, Beautiful, you have created something magical. You're amazing.