1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apodjay Production. 2 00:00:10,961 --> 00:00:13,921 Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady. 3 00:00:14,321 --> 00:00:17,401 Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically 4 00:00:17,481 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't 5 00:00:21,201 --> 00:00:23,921 Speaker 2: call me crazy because I said it first. Whoever's trying 6 00:00:23,921 --> 00:00:26,121 Speaker 2: to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like, 7 00:00:26,241 --> 00:00:29,961 Speaker 2: just bring it on. Let's do it, Crazy Crazy Crazy 8 00:00:30,241 --> 00:00:36,641 Speaker 2: the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome 9 00:00:36,681 --> 00:00:42,401 Speaker 2: to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. I am extremely, 10 00:00:42,601 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: extremely excited about today's guest and today's podcast episode. It 11 00:00:48,601 --> 00:00:51,481 Speaker 2: kind of feels a bit full circle as well, because 12 00:00:51,521 --> 00:00:55,161 Speaker 2: this beautiful guest that I've got on today kind of 13 00:00:55,161 --> 00:00:58,881 Speaker 2: popped into my life randomly over a year ago, and 14 00:00:59,241 --> 00:01:02,481 Speaker 2: I actually went on her podcast and it was like 15 00:01:02,561 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: a terrifying, incredible, wild moment for me as much as 16 00:01:06,361 --> 00:01:08,801 Speaker 2: it was for her as well. And of course I'm 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,401 Speaker 2: talking about the beautiful Zoe Marshall. Hello, beautiful. 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,401 Speaker 1: I hope it wasn't terrifying for you. I like, was it? 19 00:01:17,481 --> 00:01:19,761 Speaker 1: Was it? Your first one? Talk to me about that? 20 00:01:19,801 --> 00:01:21,161 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to interview you right now. 21 00:01:21,241 --> 00:01:22,681 Speaker 1: Got that I slip. 22 00:01:22,721 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: I can't help it. Yeah, Like that was literally not 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: my first podcast, but you did break my home and 24 00:01:28,521 --> 00:01:33,321 Speaker 2: in regards to channeling, like doing a reading on a podcast, 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,241 Speaker 2: and that was like that felt this like the scariest 26 00:01:36,241 --> 00:01:38,801 Speaker 2: thing in the whole wide world. I feel like it 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,481 Speaker 2: was at a really transformative time for you, and it's 28 00:01:44,601 --> 00:01:48,361 Speaker 2: so beautiful to see you over a year later, and 29 00:01:48,401 --> 00:01:52,641 Speaker 2: it's like I actually just got goosebumps because it really 30 00:01:52,881 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: you've gone from the deep to arise, and like there's 31 00:01:58,321 --> 00:01:59,921 Speaker 2: so much in that. I said to you the other 32 00:02:00,001 --> 00:02:03,801 Speaker 2: night that like you're you are literally a phoenix, and 33 00:02:04,401 --> 00:02:08,921 Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk about this beautiful, incredible course and 34 00:02:10,281 --> 00:02:12,601 Speaker 2: kind of like it's so much more than that that 35 00:02:12,681 --> 00:02:16,761 Speaker 2: you've created around manifestation and not in just the like 36 00:02:17,641 --> 00:02:20,601 Speaker 2: here's how you manifest, here are the five steps and 37 00:02:20,641 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: you just imagine it. Like I'm so excited to hear 38 00:02:26,041 --> 00:02:29,921 Speaker 2: how you got how you went from the deep to arise. 39 00:02:31,441 --> 00:02:36,601 Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful question. So I remember when I spoke to you, 40 00:02:36,761 --> 00:02:40,481 Speaker 1: I was kind of in the midst of a existential crisis. 41 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,201 Speaker 1: I had been so overworked as a content creator on 42 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,641 Speaker 1: social media as well as sitting in vicarious trauma on 43 00:02:50,841 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: a lot of those deep episodes. I could never separate 44 00:02:54,881 --> 00:02:59,521 Speaker 1: myself from the guests, and their traumas range from you know, 45 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:06,041 Speaker 1: severe child sexual abuse to mass murders to ah, there 46 00:03:06,081 --> 00:03:10,881 Speaker 1: were aliens. I mean like, there was such a various range, 47 00:03:10,881 --> 00:03:16,921 Speaker 1: but essentially it was trauma and resilience based. And when 48 00:03:16,921 --> 00:03:19,481 Speaker 1: I saw you, I was in a really terrible spot. 49 00:03:19,761 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I had become so numb with my life. I had 50 00:03:26,561 --> 00:03:29,401 Speaker 1: had a recent health scare, I'd found a lump in 51 00:03:29,441 --> 00:03:32,921 Speaker 1: my breast, and we'd had a flood in our house, 52 00:03:33,001 --> 00:03:37,801 Speaker 1: And instead of processing those feelings healthily, I decided to 53 00:03:37,881 --> 00:03:42,361 Speaker 1: overwork and going to safety seeking behavior of making money 54 00:03:42,761 --> 00:03:45,481 Speaker 1: to feel safe. And the more I worked, the more 55 00:03:45,521 --> 00:03:48,041 Speaker 1: disconnected I got, and the more disconnected I got, the 56 00:03:48,081 --> 00:03:49,641 Speaker 1: more numb I got, and the more numb I got, 57 00:03:49,681 --> 00:03:53,801 Speaker 1: I just didn't even understand what life meant. And I 58 00:03:53,921 --> 00:03:58,761 Speaker 1: wasn't suicidal, but I was definitely like I was asking 59 00:03:58,801 --> 00:04:02,801 Speaker 1: my husband, are you happy? How do you feel? Do 60 00:04:02,881 --> 00:04:05,841 Speaker 1: you feel purposeful? Are you like in this in this loop? 61 00:04:05,881 --> 00:04:07,001 Speaker 1: Are you feeling. 62 00:04:08,601 --> 00:04:09,201 Speaker 2: Ugh? Like? 63 00:04:09,601 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Is this it? And he was like, in fact, I've 64 00:04:12,921 --> 00:04:16,601 Speaker 1: never been happier ever with my family, with my life, 65 00:04:16,681 --> 00:04:20,601 Speaker 1: with my career, with my purpose I'm very worried about you. 66 00:04:21,361 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to ship you off to a place called 67 00:04:24,641 --> 00:04:27,721 Speaker 1: Eden Health Retreat with one of your oldest friends, and 68 00:04:27,761 --> 00:04:33,721 Speaker 1: you're going to figure this out. And I was just 69 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,121 Speaker 1: there so angry, so angry, like I remember just being 70 00:04:38,161 --> 00:04:40,401 Speaker 1: like a petulant little child, like with the room they 71 00:04:40,401 --> 00:04:43,321 Speaker 1: gave me. I hated it. It was disgusting and it 72 00:04:43,361 --> 00:04:46,641 Speaker 1: was just a word. I was in the worst space. 73 00:04:47,081 --> 00:04:53,921 Speaker 1: And I had a beautiful nervous system reset session where 74 00:04:53,961 --> 00:04:57,001 Speaker 1: I had a breakdown and a breakthrough, and it truly 75 00:04:57,361 --> 00:05:01,361 Speaker 1: was the healing I needed to get where I am today. 76 00:05:01,401 --> 00:05:03,761 Speaker 1: But you're right, it's like full it's a full year 77 00:05:04,641 --> 00:05:07,161 Speaker 1: to her arrived here. You know, I had to get 78 00:05:07,161 --> 00:05:09,921 Speaker 1: to the point where I was. I got back from 79 00:05:10,001 --> 00:05:16,361 Speaker 1: that retreat and I shut down and walked half the team, 80 00:05:16,921 --> 00:05:19,601 Speaker 1: and then I was like it took me another you know, 81 00:05:20,201 --> 00:05:24,481 Speaker 1: six months to really go. I don't know how much 82 00:05:24,521 --> 00:05:26,841 Speaker 1: more of this I can do with social media. I 83 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,401 Speaker 1: think we have to change that. And then it took 84 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,241 Speaker 1: me another few months to be like, Okay, we're not 85 00:05:33,401 --> 00:05:37,721 Speaker 1: doing the deep anymore. Like I felt as such a 86 00:05:37,801 --> 00:05:43,241 Speaker 1: commitment to the listeners, like they're so cult like They're 87 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,841 Speaker 1: so obsessed and so supportive, and I was like, fuck, like, 88 00:05:48,961 --> 00:05:51,921 Speaker 1: how do I just not make this? It felt like 89 00:05:52,001 --> 00:05:53,801 Speaker 1: my service to the world to be able to share 90 00:05:53,841 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: these stories. And then I had this kind of epiphany 91 00:06:00,721 --> 00:06:05,561 Speaker 1: to hold this manifestation workshop really slap dash over three months, 92 00:06:05,601 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: one session a month with one of my coaches over 93 00:06:10,081 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: the years, and it just went so wild, like sold 94 00:06:13,681 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: out like bananas, and I was like, I recorded another 95 00:06:18,681 --> 00:06:22,281 Speaker 1: episode of The Deep that week, and it hit me 96 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: in the gut and I was like, this feels so awful. 97 00:06:26,481 --> 00:06:29,801 Speaker 1: I'm teaching people how to be in true alignment and 98 00:06:30,041 --> 00:06:33,361 Speaker 1: feel good all the time because they are magnetic to 99 00:06:33,401 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: more good things. Yet every week I am bringing in 100 00:06:37,281 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: someone else's trauma and I don't have the ability to 101 00:06:39,961 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: have space. So I felt like what I was teaching 102 00:06:44,921 --> 00:06:48,161 Speaker 1: with this manifestation workshop and what I was living was 103 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: not aligned. So it was that day, in that moment, 104 00:06:51,601 --> 00:06:53,561 Speaker 1: I was like, I won't do this anymore. It was 105 00:06:53,641 --> 00:06:56,681 Speaker 1: very second. Yeah, so long story shot. I mean I 106 00:06:56,721 --> 00:07:00,681 Speaker 1: answered that in like six minutes. No, that's. 107 00:07:01,401 --> 00:07:04,161 Speaker 2: You can take twenty she monologues. 108 00:07:05,161 --> 00:07:05,481 Speaker 1: Listening. 109 00:07:05,481 --> 00:07:06,041 Speaker 2: I was here for it. 110 00:07:07,201 --> 00:07:09,801 Speaker 1: But yeah, So it wasn't like the deep was this slow, 111 00:07:10,721 --> 00:07:12,721 Speaker 1: you know, it's been I wouldn't say it's an end, 112 00:07:12,761 --> 00:07:15,441 Speaker 1: It's totally an evolution. Like I think you need the 113 00:07:15,521 --> 00:07:20,601 Speaker 1: deep to arise, like quite literally, yes, right, And I 114 00:07:20,641 --> 00:07:24,121 Speaker 1: think the difference between what I teach and what others 115 00:07:24,201 --> 00:07:32,761 Speaker 1: teach is that arise manifestation has been misunderstood and I 116 00:07:32,801 --> 00:07:38,001 Speaker 1: think accessed only by the privileged, yes, you know. And 117 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: now I feel like, because I've sat with the most 118 00:07:41,881 --> 00:07:48,201 Speaker 1: horrendous stories and people of you know, across a spectrum, 119 00:07:48,241 --> 00:07:51,201 Speaker 1: I go, everybody needs to be able to access this work, 120 00:07:51,321 --> 00:07:56,241 Speaker 1: not just people that are white, affluent and bored. 121 00:07:56,761 --> 00:07:56,961 Speaker 2: You know. 122 00:07:57,401 --> 00:08:00,121 Speaker 1: It's like, this needs to be accessible to if you 123 00:08:00,201 --> 00:08:02,361 Speaker 1: were seriously at rock bottom and you're not okay, because 124 00:08:02,361 --> 00:08:04,921 Speaker 1: that's how I started. And so I think that's where 125 00:08:05,721 --> 00:08:09,161 Speaker 1: this whole thing was born from and literally arise, meaning 126 00:08:10,641 --> 00:08:17,681 Speaker 1: the practical definition of a rizing. 127 00:08:17,921 --> 00:08:22,601 Speaker 2: It's so interesting to me because like obviously there's I 128 00:08:22,641 --> 00:08:24,921 Speaker 2: guess when I imagine the deep, and when you talk 129 00:08:24,961 --> 00:08:28,201 Speaker 2: about how you it's like you you went so deep 130 00:08:28,281 --> 00:08:31,481 Speaker 2: into people's stories and so deep into your own, and 131 00:08:31,521 --> 00:08:35,921 Speaker 2: I think you've done so much, so much juicy deep 132 00:08:36,001 --> 00:08:39,601 Speaker 2: work within yourself. And then also understanding it and seeing 133 00:08:39,641 --> 00:08:43,521 Speaker 2: it within the realm of people outside of you. I 134 00:08:43,601 --> 00:08:46,681 Speaker 2: always think to be able to have the capacity to 135 00:08:46,761 --> 00:08:49,201 Speaker 2: go up, you also have to be able to hold 136 00:08:49,201 --> 00:08:52,361 Speaker 2: the capacity to go down. And the further that you can, 137 00:08:52,441 --> 00:08:56,201 Speaker 2: the deeper that you can go, the higher up that 138 00:08:56,241 --> 00:08:58,921 Speaker 2: you can arise as well, because I think it just 139 00:08:59,041 --> 00:09:02,881 Speaker 2: like really strengthens your I mean even like you know 140 00:09:02,921 --> 00:09:08,361 Speaker 2: you're you're listening to people's story and within every single episode, 141 00:09:08,361 --> 00:09:12,481 Speaker 2: in every single interview that you're doing, your capacity for 142 00:09:12,561 --> 00:09:19,361 Speaker 2: compassion understanding of others is just growing so exponentially, And 143 00:09:19,401 --> 00:09:21,481 Speaker 2: so I think, like when you were talking about this 144 00:09:21,521 --> 00:09:24,881 Speaker 2: isn't just for the privilege. I think this is why 145 00:09:24,961 --> 00:09:28,321 Speaker 2: you can really hold that space so well, because you've 146 00:09:28,681 --> 00:09:33,401 Speaker 2: heard the story of so many Yeah, I think so. 147 00:09:33,721 --> 00:09:38,481 Speaker 1: And I think it's really important that everything is accessible, 148 00:09:39,041 --> 00:09:43,641 Speaker 1: like the education is accessible, the price point is accessible. 149 00:09:44,481 --> 00:09:52,041 Speaker 1: That your emotional capacity or ability and understanding it's accessible. 150 00:09:52,161 --> 00:09:55,441 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So it's not talking to somebody 151 00:09:56,201 --> 00:09:59,041 Speaker 1: as if I have done all of the work and 152 00:09:59,561 --> 00:10:02,561 Speaker 1: get all the nuances, like I'm meeting everybody where they're at. 153 00:10:02,721 --> 00:10:07,001 Speaker 1: Like I think there's this real disservice that a lot 154 00:10:07,001 --> 00:10:12,161 Speaker 1: of teachers in a spiritual space take you know, and 155 00:10:12,201 --> 00:10:16,241 Speaker 1: they talk over people and above people, and it becomes 156 00:10:16,401 --> 00:10:21,921 Speaker 1: intellectualized and egoic. And I think that that has been 157 00:10:21,921 --> 00:10:24,841 Speaker 1: really important is this isn't just for the people that 158 00:10:24,921 --> 00:10:27,521 Speaker 1: have heard the word manifestation. It's for the people that 159 00:10:27,681 --> 00:10:30,201 Speaker 1: don't even know what this even is, has never seen it, 160 00:10:30,321 --> 00:10:33,521 Speaker 1: never heard of it, like what a weird concept is? 161 00:10:33,561 --> 00:10:36,361 Speaker 1: Like that is it's also for them? Yeah that makes sense. 162 00:10:37,001 --> 00:10:40,321 Speaker 2: Yeah, well what is what is manifestation to you? 163 00:10:41,361 --> 00:10:44,321 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, So I think let me give you the 164 00:10:44,361 --> 00:10:48,521 Speaker 1: mainstream version first, which is I think there's a misconception 165 00:10:48,681 --> 00:10:51,921 Speaker 1: that you ask for something and you wait for it 166 00:10:51,961 --> 00:10:53,921 Speaker 1: to land in your lap. Yes, right, like, but that's 167 00:10:53,961 --> 00:10:59,601 Speaker 1: actually called a wish. That's not manifestation. So I've kind 168 00:10:59,641 --> 00:11:04,081 Speaker 1: of re named the word co creation because what it 169 00:11:04,201 --> 00:11:08,841 Speaker 1: requires is for you to call in something and then 170 00:11:08,961 --> 00:11:14,041 Speaker 1: take aligned action alongside the universe, God, Mother, nature of 171 00:11:14,041 --> 00:11:20,121 Speaker 1: the angels, whoever, to co create this. So the energy 172 00:11:20,161 --> 00:11:25,961 Speaker 1: that you're putting out by your mindset, there's all of 173 00:11:26,001 --> 00:11:28,201 Speaker 1: these tools and techniques that we can get into, but 174 00:11:28,561 --> 00:11:36,441 Speaker 1: using gratitude priming and then taking physical action is magnetic 175 00:11:36,881 --> 00:11:41,601 Speaker 1: to the universe, but you need to be in the 176 00:11:41,681 --> 00:11:45,601 Speaker 1: right vibration to attract the thing you're asking. And so 177 00:11:45,881 --> 00:11:50,241 Speaker 1: if you're asking for a meaningful, loving relationship but you 178 00:11:50,321 --> 00:11:55,201 Speaker 1: know internally that you really lack self worth or self love, 179 00:11:55,441 --> 00:12:00,801 Speaker 1: or you have trust issues with your past partners because 180 00:12:00,881 --> 00:12:05,921 Speaker 1: you witnessed your parents dynamic, or you've witnes something growing 181 00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:09,641 Speaker 1: up that's a block. So you can't just wish for something, 182 00:12:10,361 --> 00:12:13,921 Speaker 1: take the aligned action and then not address the blocks 183 00:12:14,721 --> 00:12:17,801 Speaker 1: because the blocks are very informative to what's going on 184 00:12:17,881 --> 00:12:20,721 Speaker 1: in your subconscious And then we go into the subconscious 185 00:12:20,761 --> 00:12:24,801 Speaker 1: mind and we heal those blocks, and then we hand 186 00:12:24,841 --> 00:12:27,721 Speaker 1: it over to trust. Then you land in what I 187 00:12:27,801 --> 00:12:30,081 Speaker 1: call the abyss, which is when you've called it in. 188 00:12:30,641 --> 00:12:32,401 Speaker 1: You've done all the work, but you're waiting for it 189 00:12:32,441 --> 00:12:34,641 Speaker 1: to happen, and you're like, where the fuck is my thing? 190 00:12:34,681 --> 00:12:39,361 Speaker 1: I've done all the work. And that's the trickiest part, 191 00:12:39,481 --> 00:12:43,161 Speaker 1: right because that's deep, surrendered, deep trust knowing what is 192 00:12:43,201 --> 00:12:46,401 Speaker 1: for you will find you. And then that can take 193 00:12:46,481 --> 00:12:48,921 Speaker 1: depending on how big your manifestation is. I could take weeks, 194 00:12:48,961 --> 00:12:51,801 Speaker 1: that could take months. So I've been doing this for 195 00:12:51,881 --> 00:12:55,681 Speaker 1: twenty years and I'm still so deeply uncomfortable in the abyss, 196 00:12:56,001 --> 00:12:58,641 Speaker 1: but it is the place in which you need to 197 00:12:58,921 --> 00:13:01,881 Speaker 1: trust that the thing is coming for you. It's kind 198 00:13:01,881 --> 00:13:04,881 Speaker 1: of like baking a cake, right, You put all the 199 00:13:05,121 --> 00:13:06,521 Speaker 1: ingredients in and you mixed up. You put it in 200 00:13:06,601 --> 00:13:08,641 Speaker 1: the oven, but then you keep opening the oven and 201 00:13:08,681 --> 00:13:11,001 Speaker 1: pulling the cake out and pushing on the cake and 202 00:13:11,041 --> 00:13:12,361 Speaker 1: mixing the cake, and then you put it back in. 203 00:13:12,401 --> 00:13:13,641 Speaker 1: Then you pull it back out, then you put it 204 00:13:13,641 --> 00:13:16,201 Speaker 1: back in, then you pull it like, let the cake bake. 205 00:13:16,601 --> 00:13:19,241 Speaker 1: The time is going to go off. You've done everything 206 00:13:19,241 --> 00:13:21,441 Speaker 1: you needed to do, and wait for the cake to 207 00:13:21,601 --> 00:13:27,481 Speaker 1: arrive or arrive yes, right, And so I think that 208 00:13:27,841 --> 00:13:31,361 Speaker 1: this whole process and then celebration is the final part, 209 00:13:31,481 --> 00:13:35,281 Speaker 1: is truly celebrating that you did this thing. Every single person, 210 00:13:35,841 --> 00:13:38,681 Speaker 1: no matter who you are, nor what matter your background, 211 00:13:39,281 --> 00:13:43,241 Speaker 1: you have the ability to do this. So we always 212 00:13:43,361 --> 00:13:47,081 Speaker 1: make it feel like a manifestation has to be a thing, 213 00:13:47,561 --> 00:13:52,241 Speaker 1: a person, money, a job like outside of us. But 214 00:13:52,321 --> 00:13:57,281 Speaker 1: sometimes people purely want to manifest ease, yes, yes, and 215 00:13:57,281 --> 00:14:00,961 Speaker 1: and enjoy or connection, you know. So I think you 216 00:14:01,041 --> 00:14:04,081 Speaker 1: have to really meet people where they're at. 217 00:14:04,481 --> 00:14:07,481 Speaker 2: I remember, like many many years ago, when I was 218 00:14:07,521 --> 00:14:10,161 Speaker 2: sort of first just like trying to dabble in the 219 00:14:10,801 --> 00:14:13,361 Speaker 2: manifestation thing. And I did the you know, I watched 220 00:14:13,361 --> 00:14:17,081 Speaker 2: the Secret, I read the book. I sat there like 221 00:14:17,241 --> 00:14:19,801 Speaker 2: imagining the new car that I was going to be 222 00:14:19,921 --> 00:14:22,361 Speaker 2: in all of those Like I did all of that, 223 00:14:22,801 --> 00:14:25,121 Speaker 2: and I was like, where the fuck is my car? 224 00:14:25,521 --> 00:14:28,481 Speaker 2: What am I manifesting? What is going on? And it's 225 00:14:28,561 --> 00:14:31,841 Speaker 2: just so interesting, like this journey right that you just 226 00:14:31,961 --> 00:14:36,641 Speaker 2: explained this, It's like you're having to be almost really 227 00:14:36,681 --> 00:14:40,081 Speaker 2: honest with yourself more than anything, because you can sit 228 00:14:40,121 --> 00:14:42,881 Speaker 2: there and you can say I deserve a new car. 229 00:14:43,041 --> 00:14:45,201 Speaker 2: I deserve a new car. I deserve a new car, 230 00:14:45,321 --> 00:14:49,041 Speaker 2: but you're subconscious, and like it's interesting we have like 231 00:14:49,161 --> 00:14:52,881 Speaker 2: you know, we don't have a great connection with our subconscious, 232 00:14:52,881 --> 00:14:54,841 Speaker 2: so we're not really listening to what it's really telling 233 00:14:54,921 --> 00:14:56,801 Speaker 2: us or you know, as you said, where those blocks 234 00:14:56,881 --> 00:15:01,041 Speaker 2: kind of are living. But like when you're really honest 235 00:15:01,081 --> 00:15:04,561 Speaker 2: with yourself and it's like, well, do I really think 236 00:15:04,721 --> 00:15:07,841 Speaker 2: that I'm worthy of that? Probably not, like if I'm 237 00:15:07,881 --> 00:15:10,921 Speaker 2: being completely honest with myself, no, you know, and like 238 00:15:11,081 --> 00:15:14,561 Speaker 2: meeting ourself in these places, like it's kind of the 239 00:15:14,641 --> 00:15:16,521 Speaker 2: journey you've been on. You have to get deep to 240 00:15:16,561 --> 00:15:19,121 Speaker 2: be able to actually figure out what it is that 241 00:15:19,161 --> 00:15:22,641 Speaker 2: you deserve because there are these like these stories that 242 00:15:22,761 --> 00:15:26,401 Speaker 2: live within us that we haven't even met yet because 243 00:15:26,441 --> 00:15:29,041 Speaker 2: we try not to meet these parts of ourselves because 244 00:15:29,041 --> 00:15:32,521 Speaker 2: they're not as likable, they're not as like comfortable. You know, 245 00:15:32,601 --> 00:15:33,601 Speaker 2: it's a lot easier. 246 00:15:35,081 --> 00:15:38,281 Speaker 1: It also has to be realistic, which is annoying for 247 00:15:38,361 --> 00:15:38,921 Speaker 1: some people. 248 00:15:39,041 --> 00:15:39,241 Speaker 2: Yeah. 249 00:15:39,281 --> 00:15:48,281 Speaker 1: Right, So, say fifteen years ago, I really wanted to push, right, 250 00:15:48,401 --> 00:15:53,441 Speaker 1: I just really really wanted to push. And at that point, 251 00:15:53,721 --> 00:15:57,241 Speaker 1: I think I had a went from a ship box 252 00:15:57,361 --> 00:15:59,641 Speaker 1: like Hey and I or something that broke down all 253 00:15:59,681 --> 00:16:03,481 Speaker 1: the time that was like forty years old into a 254 00:16:03,601 --> 00:16:08,681 Speaker 1: v dub Golf. For me, that was a real realistic 255 00:16:08,721 --> 00:16:11,121 Speaker 1: step for where I was financially what I was doing. 256 00:16:11,161 --> 00:16:14,961 Speaker 1: But that felt like a Porsche, right, and the way 257 00:16:15,001 --> 00:16:17,521 Speaker 1: that I treated that car love that car felt abundant. 258 00:16:17,521 --> 00:16:21,281 Speaker 1: In that car. The next car was like we had 259 00:16:21,321 --> 00:16:23,681 Speaker 1: all these sponsored cars because of my husband's work. And 260 00:16:23,681 --> 00:16:25,481 Speaker 1: then you're deeply grateful we don't even have to pay 261 00:16:25,481 --> 00:16:27,721 Speaker 1: for a car, you know, because it came through that 262 00:16:28,201 --> 00:16:30,321 Speaker 1: there's all these cars, right, And then there was a 263 00:16:30,361 --> 00:16:35,921 Speaker 1: Mercedes and that felt great. And then I got my Porsche, right, 264 00:16:36,561 --> 00:16:39,601 Speaker 1: I got my dream car that I would manifest every day, 265 00:16:39,721 --> 00:16:42,881 Speaker 1: holding that steering well, seeing that symbol, doing that thing. 266 00:16:43,961 --> 00:16:47,881 Speaker 1: And to be really honest, because I had evolved with 267 00:16:48,561 --> 00:16:53,521 Speaker 1: how I felt and what I was, I thought that 268 00:16:53,641 --> 00:16:58,801 Speaker 1: I could co create. It didn't feel too It felt 269 00:16:58,841 --> 00:17:01,161 Speaker 1: really exciting and special to start, but it didn't feel 270 00:17:01,201 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: so outside of me. Does that make sense? It felt 271 00:17:04,361 --> 00:17:08,001 Speaker 1: because it was realistic. We've gotten to this point where 272 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,561 Speaker 1: you've leveled up, leveled up, leveled up, leveled up. But 273 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,721 Speaker 1: then now because I've just gone through this whole health 274 00:17:14,761 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: scare thing again, you know, my husband wants a new 275 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: Car's like, take my car. I'll get a little MG, 276 00:17:21,241 --> 00:17:23,561 Speaker 1: a little yonda like, I don't care. I don't need 277 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: the Porshe anymore. Right, what the push symbolized for me 278 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,841 Speaker 1: and myself worth fifteen years ago, when I was broken 279 00:17:30,921 --> 00:17:34,521 Speaker 1: and you know, just got out of this horrific relationship 280 00:17:34,561 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: and my mama died and my family betrayed me and 281 00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: all the things happened, A Porshe symbolized to me all 282 00:17:40,961 --> 00:17:43,641 Speaker 1: the things that I wanted to be and do and have. 283 00:17:44,441 --> 00:17:47,561 Speaker 1: Now I have the push, I don't need it. Give 284 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: me any car like and give me anything like, I 285 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:56,761 Speaker 1: don't need things to make me feel worth anything anymore. 286 00:17:56,921 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yes? Yeah, where do you like? 287 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,761 Speaker 2: I was actually about to ask this in regards to manifesting, 288 00:18:07,441 --> 00:18:12,761 Speaker 2: I guess things first. Manifesting how you want to feel, 289 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: how you want your life to look like, what are 290 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,841 Speaker 2: the things that like? What have you found in that 291 00:18:17,921 --> 00:18:19,921 Speaker 2: have you manifest kind of like that story where it's 292 00:18:19,961 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: like you got the Porsche, but then it was like 293 00:18:23,681 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: more about what the Porsche represented. It's less about the 294 00:18:26,721 --> 00:18:27,361 Speaker 2: thing itself. 295 00:18:27,921 --> 00:18:30,641 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's it. It's never about the thing. It's 296 00:18:30,761 --> 00:18:34,801 Speaker 1: always about the feeling. It's exactly the same thing what 297 00:18:35,041 --> 00:18:37,521 Speaker 1: you think you want as in like a thing or 298 00:18:37,561 --> 00:18:41,321 Speaker 1: money or people or a house or a job. You 299 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: are looking for the feeling. So essentially it's the same thing. 300 00:18:45,801 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: People just name it differently. We're always looking for a 301 00:18:48,801 --> 00:18:52,721 Speaker 1: feeling like what it represents. Yeah. So so you might 302 00:18:52,801 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: say I really really want a job opportunity, or I 303 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: want a raise, or I want something to make me 304 00:19:01,201 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: feel more affluent, but truly you just want to feel heard, 305 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,761 Speaker 1: respected and abundant. It's exactly the same thing. But you 306 00:19:10,801 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: can focus on that job being the thing, like, it's 307 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,281 Speaker 1: the same edge. What do they call it, the same 308 00:19:17,321 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: side of the coin or yeah, something like that, the 309 00:19:20,721 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: same thing. It's the same thing. It's just exactly the 310 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,801 Speaker 1: same thing. So if the feeling, if you just want 311 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:32,441 Speaker 1: to feel joyful and happy and you know, of service 312 00:19:32,761 --> 00:19:37,761 Speaker 1: and rich in all of the ways you could possibly 313 00:19:37,801 --> 00:19:42,321 Speaker 1: feel that starts internally within you. The universe will meet 314 00:19:42,321 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: you with opportunities, people, places, things fun like material stuff 315 00:19:47,721 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: that mirror that feeling. But you're feeling that anyway. And 316 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of the secret. Not the book, 317 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,761 Speaker 1: but the secret of all of this is like, yeah, 318 00:19:59,801 --> 00:20:06,241 Speaker 1: you want to feel that intrinsically in you at all times, right, 319 00:20:06,441 --> 00:20:08,521 Speaker 1: And so when that moment comes up where you're like 320 00:20:08,561 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: but you don't actually deserve that, you're like, oh, okay, 321 00:20:12,201 --> 00:20:15,041 Speaker 1: I understand that there's probably some you know, wiring here 322 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,041 Speaker 1: from zero to seven, seven to fourteen. Let's go in. 323 00:20:18,241 --> 00:20:20,681 Speaker 1: Let's have a look, you know, and then we've got 324 00:20:20,681 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: the work. We've got the inner child work that we 325 00:20:22,761 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: can do. We've got the meditations, we've got all of that. 326 00:20:26,721 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, you've been in one of our workshops, you 327 00:20:29,481 --> 00:20:31,801 Speaker 1: know that we hold in our community. We have all 328 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,321 Speaker 1: of these beautiful facilitators to get you into alignment and 329 00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:41,321 Speaker 1: face your blocks and move through them in lots of 330 00:20:41,321 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: different ways and tapping. You know, We've got all of 331 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: these modalities that work, and it just has to be 332 00:20:48,761 --> 00:20:50,881 Speaker 1: what works for you. You have to find your way 333 00:20:50,921 --> 00:20:51,361 Speaker 1: through this. 334 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,241 Speaker 2: Yes, which I really love because I always think, like everyone, 335 00:20:55,481 --> 00:21:04,241 Speaker 2: everyone has their different gateweight drug. Yes, true into themselves. Yeah, 336 00:21:04,241 --> 00:21:06,801 Speaker 2: because that's what it really is, right. It's just like 337 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: actually meeting yourself, being honest with yourself about what it 338 00:21:11,801 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: is that you really want and why it is that 339 00:21:14,481 --> 00:21:17,241 Speaker 2: you think that you can't have that, and then figuring 340 00:21:17,281 --> 00:21:20,041 Speaker 2: out all the little different parts of you and the 341 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: stories within that that are kind of stopping that. 342 00:21:23,761 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because you know, it took me 343 00:21:27,681 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: a long time, as I'm sure it did with you 344 00:21:29,441 --> 00:21:33,321 Speaker 1: two to be public and to go Okay, I'm going 345 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: to talk about co creation and manifestation. I have a 346 00:21:38,281 --> 00:21:41,801 Speaker 1: media background, I have lots of peers in the industry. 347 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,281 Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. This is the truest thing for 348 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,561 Speaker 1: me and I have to share this with the world, 349 00:21:51,001 --> 00:21:53,961 Speaker 1: and Australia is not ready but it never will be, 350 00:21:54,041 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: so I'll get it to be ready. And I just 351 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: did it, but for so long it stopped me because 352 00:22:01,041 --> 00:22:04,761 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, so what are my credentials, what are 353 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: my I you know, what kind of evidence do I 354 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: have to share and show? And then I was like, 355 00:22:10,001 --> 00:22:14,321 Speaker 1: holy shit, my whole life is the evidence. Micky. You 356 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: can pick one area of my life and be like 357 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: house husband, this that work, and I'll be like it 358 00:22:20,721 --> 00:22:26,201 Speaker 1: was a manifestation, you know, every single element. So I 359 00:22:26,281 --> 00:22:28,121 Speaker 1: was like, now I'm not going to be scared anymore 360 00:22:28,281 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: of skeptics and of people that don't want to know. 361 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've got neuroscientists on board just for 362 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: the skeptics by the way. Yeah, but I was like 363 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: I have to do this because people need it, and 364 00:22:43,721 --> 00:22:46,521 Speaker 1: it saved my life. Like and I know that sounds crazy, 365 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,401 Speaker 1: but not manifestation in the way that you know it 366 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: with every modality and tool and technique around it, you know, 367 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,241 Speaker 1: deeply anchored in gratitude, deeply anchored in service, like all 368 00:22:58,281 --> 00:23:01,201 Speaker 1: of this stuff. That's we don't see that as manifestation, 369 00:23:01,281 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: but it truly is. You know, if you wanted to 370 00:23:03,801 --> 00:23:07,321 Speaker 1: like give it one title and then it's a lifestyle. 371 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: You don't just kind of dip in and out. It 372 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: changes how you are in the world. It changes everything. 373 00:23:15,041 --> 00:23:17,161 Speaker 2: I heard this thing the other day. I'm not sure 374 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,521 Speaker 2: if you've heard this, but I think you really like it. 375 00:23:20,001 --> 00:23:24,001 Speaker 2: So the word manifestation in French and also a lot 376 00:23:24,001 --> 00:23:27,881 Speaker 2: of other languages, is that is how they that's their 377 00:23:27,961 --> 00:23:33,161 Speaker 2: word for kind of like protesting when they go out 378 00:23:33,201 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: on the streets when they and they don't call it 379 00:23:35,681 --> 00:23:38,641 Speaker 2: protesting it's like someone else it's like, but they call 380 00:23:38,681 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: it manifestation because manifestation to them is I want to 381 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,281 Speaker 2: make change, We want things to happen, and so we're 382 00:23:46,321 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: going to get out in the streets and make it happen. 383 00:23:49,201 --> 00:23:51,441 Speaker 2: When I heard that, like, I've got full body shit, 384 00:23:52,281 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: and yeah, like seeing that on a collective level though, 385 00:23:55,041 --> 00:23:59,561 Speaker 2: like understanding that because often we think about manifestation and 386 00:23:59,681 --> 00:24:03,001 Speaker 2: like for ourselves and of course, but I never even 387 00:24:03,201 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: really thought about using it and seeing it in a 388 00:24:06,281 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: collective way. And I was just like, that's fucking cool. 389 00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: And it makes sense, Like it just makes perfect sense. 390 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:18,681 Speaker 1: And the other thing about this is this isn't new. Yeah, 391 00:24:18,721 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: like this has been around before we were around like 392 00:24:22,201 --> 00:24:26,041 Speaker 1: it just is. It's an energetic law, and so you 393 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,641 Speaker 1: either believe it or you don't, but it's working anyway. 394 00:24:29,201 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: And that's why I was like, Okay, well, if it's happening, 395 00:24:32,481 --> 00:24:34,961 Speaker 1: I want to get in on the good stuff, because 396 00:24:35,001 --> 00:24:38,601 Speaker 1: we have the ability to create anything you want, but 397 00:24:38,681 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: we're very confused by the laws and society's terms and 398 00:24:43,761 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: what our parents did, Like it's all so confusing that 399 00:24:47,761 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: we go there's got to be a better way. And 400 00:24:50,001 --> 00:24:52,681 Speaker 1: then people, you know, I think that's why in COVID 401 00:24:53,561 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Manifestation was googled six hundred and sixty percent 402 00:24:58,241 --> 00:25:01,241 Speaker 1: more than any other time, and that just goes up 403 00:25:01,281 --> 00:25:03,401 Speaker 1: because I think people were finally at a point where 404 00:25:03,441 --> 00:25:07,881 Speaker 1: they were like, isn't systeming? Who am I now? What 405 00:25:07,921 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: can I do? What can I be? And so it 406 00:25:10,681 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: was this incredible you have infinite possibility in this world. 407 00:25:16,521 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: You know, that's so true. It's like it took the 408 00:25:21,201 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: it took the veil away for all the people that 409 00:25:24,521 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: were skeptical, and now everyone's in and you can hear it. 410 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: You hear that word on the street, you hear it 411 00:25:29,721 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: in shows, you're hearing it and you're like, Okay, great. 412 00:25:32,441 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: So it's becoming more mainstream, but do people actually know. 413 00:25:35,041 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: What to do, yes, and what it really means as well. 414 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,241 Speaker 2: I remember like speaking of the co creation of things 415 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: and coming from I guess like a bit of a 416 00:25:45,681 --> 00:25:50,801 Speaker 2: psychicy perspective, which of course that's what I'm here to do. Yeah. 417 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,481 Speaker 2: I remember this moment really clearly, and I think I've 418 00:25:53,521 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: mentioned it on the podcast before that. I was literally 419 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: in the kitchen just cooking one day and one of 420 00:25:59,441 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 2: my kids went to put their hand near the stove 421 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:05,481 Speaker 2: and I was like, no, dulling, that is really hot, 422 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,921 Speaker 2: and they fought me about it. They were like, why 423 00:26:07,961 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: can't I touch it? And I said, because it's hot, 424 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,761 Speaker 2: it will burn your fingers. And it got to this 425 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,761 Speaker 2: stage where eventually I just went, just trust me. I've 426 00:26:16,761 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: been on this earth longer than you have. And my 427 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: guides popped on in and they went, do you get that? 428 00:26:23,441 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: Do you understand that it's a really similar thing? And 429 00:26:26,281 --> 00:26:29,121 Speaker 2: they basically showed to me in that moment that our 430 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,801 Speaker 2: relationship with saw, Spirit, God, universe, guides, all of the above, 431 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: and us is really fucking similar to the relationship between 432 00:26:39,561 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: parent and child. If you are a parent, you know 433 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,401 Speaker 2: and think about it, you know, like if your child 434 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: comes up to you and says, I really want to 435 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,561 Speaker 2: do ballet, I really really want to be a ballerina 436 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,281 Speaker 2: when I grow up, you, as a parent, will do 437 00:26:58,441 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: everything in your power to make that happen. 438 00:27:02,241 --> 00:27:03,561 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are the universe. 439 00:27:03,681 --> 00:27:05,761 Speaker 2: You are the universe. But you can't do it if 440 00:27:05,801 --> 00:27:09,281 Speaker 2: they don't tell you. And you can't make them a ballerina. 441 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: You can't make them a professional ballerina. You can give 442 00:27:11,681 --> 00:27:14,561 Speaker 2: them opportunities, you can like do everything that you can 443 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: to support them. And you know, this is like like 444 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: you know within no, but I get it totally, you know, 445 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,801 Speaker 2: and I and ever since then, I'm like, that makes 446 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: so much sense to me. Like spirit can't fucking like 447 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,161 Speaker 2: make my arms and legs move and take me places 448 00:27:30,201 --> 00:27:32,001 Speaker 2: and call up the people I need to call up. 449 00:27:32,441 --> 00:27:34,561 Speaker 2: But I can do that, and I can keep telling 450 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,721 Speaker 2: them this is what I really want to do. I 451 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: need you to help. I want you to help me 452 00:27:39,281 --> 00:27:43,001 Speaker 2: make it happen. And they're like, fuck, yes, get moving, 453 00:27:43,281 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: you know. 454 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:49,041 Speaker 1: And the thing is they're always expecting you to live 455 00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:52,321 Speaker 1: as you're higher self, Like they're always expecting you to 456 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,001 Speaker 1: like where the ones letting them down constantly from being 457 00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:57,761 Speaker 1: so human. You know, they're like we're ready, We're ready 458 00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:00,601 Speaker 1: to meet you, Like are you ready, Like we're still here, 459 00:28:00,721 --> 00:28:03,801 Speaker 1: like come on, let's do all the good stuff. And 460 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: you're having this like know, spiral human experience totally, and 461 00:28:09,241 --> 00:28:12,441 Speaker 1: I think that of Huanity, right. And also just going 462 00:28:12,481 --> 00:28:14,281 Speaker 1: back to that parent thing, I was expecting you to 463 00:28:14,321 --> 00:28:17,721 Speaker 1: tell your child just to touch the stove, right, because 464 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: there's this also this element in the universe is like 465 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,681 Speaker 1: you're the human is going to fuck up and do 466 00:28:25,761 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: the cycle for as long as it needs to do 467 00:28:27,681 --> 00:28:29,321 Speaker 1: the cycle till it's ready. 468 00:28:30,281 --> 00:28:30,481 Speaker 2: Right. 469 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,401 Speaker 1: So as much as the parent or the universe can 470 00:28:33,441 --> 00:28:38,001 Speaker 1: assist in the ballet or the safety that child will 471 00:28:38,081 --> 00:28:41,801 Speaker 1: need to learn, however many times it needs to learn, 472 00:28:41,881 --> 00:28:44,601 Speaker 1: we cannot take away. Of course, we keep them safe, 473 00:28:45,161 --> 00:28:48,801 Speaker 1: but we cannot take away their moments of discomfort in 474 00:28:48,841 --> 00:28:54,561 Speaker 1: the school yard or finding belonging or dealing with betrayal 475 00:28:54,721 --> 00:29:01,321 Speaker 1: like that is a human necessity to require depth and character, 476 00:29:01,641 --> 00:29:04,281 Speaker 1: and so we always want to like save our kids, 477 00:29:04,641 --> 00:29:08,121 Speaker 1: but they really need to experience all of it, right, 478 00:29:08,521 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: And just like the universe is like, well, experience the 479 00:29:10,961 --> 00:29:13,841 Speaker 1: whole world. Yeah, and then come back to me and 480 00:29:13,881 --> 00:29:15,761 Speaker 1: tell me what you really want and then we can 481 00:29:15,801 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: do that together. 482 00:29:17,561 --> 00:29:21,161 Speaker 2: How do you look at because like even speaking to that, 483 00:29:21,441 --> 00:29:24,201 Speaker 2: you know, like you and I both kind of can 484 00:29:24,281 --> 00:29:28,041 Speaker 2: feel into the hardest moments of our life are also 485 00:29:28,561 --> 00:29:32,401 Speaker 2: there's so much gratitude in that sometimes because without it, 486 00:29:32,481 --> 00:29:37,281 Speaker 2: that's where we learned so much understanding, capacity for others, 487 00:29:37,361 --> 00:29:41,001 Speaker 2: so much compassion. It gives us strength, it gives us resilience. 488 00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: There's so much that's to it. So how do you 489 00:29:43,521 --> 00:29:46,241 Speaker 2: explain that to people? Like, do you do we try 490 00:29:46,281 --> 00:29:48,841 Speaker 2: and find gratitude in the hard times. 491 00:29:49,841 --> 00:29:53,641 Speaker 1: I think there's two types of people, Okay. I think 492 00:29:53,681 --> 00:29:58,481 Speaker 1: that there are people that experience trauma and they come 493 00:29:58,561 --> 00:30:01,881 Speaker 1: through it and grow and see the world differently and 494 00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: have have more breadth and depth and understanding. And then 495 00:30:06,041 --> 00:30:11,201 Speaker 1: I think there's a smaller group of people that let 496 00:30:11,241 --> 00:30:15,281 Speaker 1: trauma define them and ruin them. You know, it makes 497 00:30:15,321 --> 00:30:18,321 Speaker 1: them bitter, it makes them smaller, it makes them loop 498 00:30:18,361 --> 00:30:20,881 Speaker 1: in the negative. They don't want to come out. They're 499 00:30:20,961 --> 00:30:24,281 Speaker 1: so okay with being defined by their trauma. This is 500 00:30:24,321 --> 00:30:27,121 Speaker 1: who they are now, this is where they find their meaning, 501 00:30:27,241 --> 00:30:33,681 Speaker 1: this is their identity. And it's funny we cannot impose 502 00:30:33,801 --> 00:30:38,761 Speaker 1: anything on anybody. All I know is that from my 503 00:30:39,001 --> 00:30:46,481 Speaker 1: experience and my last most recent traumatic experience, was I 504 00:30:46,601 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: really got that choice again. I think it comes up 505 00:30:49,281 --> 00:30:52,561 Speaker 1: every time. It comes up every time that we're given 506 00:30:53,561 --> 00:30:59,361 Speaker 1: a difficult moment. We can either spiral into the unknown 507 00:30:59,601 --> 00:31:04,241 Speaker 1: and wanting answers and wanting certainty and wanting control, or 508 00:31:04,281 --> 00:31:09,241 Speaker 1: we can trust that this has happened, it was going 509 00:31:09,281 --> 00:31:14,041 Speaker 1: to happen, it was supposed to happen, and from that experience, 510 00:31:14,201 --> 00:31:16,801 Speaker 1: we trust that whatever is meant for us will be. 511 00:31:17,881 --> 00:31:23,881 Speaker 1: And when I was waiting for this diagnosis or these 512 00:31:23,961 --> 00:31:27,401 Speaker 1: results for a lump in my breast, this is the 513 00:31:27,441 --> 00:31:31,881 Speaker 1: second time we've done this now in eighteen months. The 514 00:31:31,961 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: first time was a very different experience for me. So 515 00:31:34,521 --> 00:31:38,081 Speaker 1: I can't say that the second time was different because 516 00:31:38,081 --> 00:31:42,561 Speaker 1: I hadn't experienced the first right, But the second experience, 517 00:31:44,001 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: definitely padded by all of the knowledge and practice that 518 00:31:48,241 --> 00:31:54,161 Speaker 1: I'm currently in, was like, I literally can do nothing 519 00:31:54,481 --> 00:31:58,161 Speaker 1: with this information until I hear what it is. There 520 00:31:58,241 --> 00:32:02,361 Speaker 1: is nothing helpful about me going into worst case scenarios 521 00:32:02,761 --> 00:32:06,121 Speaker 1: planning my funeral, talking to my husband and about remarrying. 522 00:32:06,481 --> 00:32:11,641 Speaker 1: Doing all of those things, which essentially is putting those 523 00:32:11,641 --> 00:32:14,721 Speaker 1: things into as a vibe, putting them out there. It's 524 00:32:14,801 --> 00:32:18,041 Speaker 1: not helpful. It's not helpful to my nervous system, it's 525 00:32:18,041 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: not helpful to the energy that people are picking up 526 00:32:20,201 --> 00:32:22,081 Speaker 1: around me. So what I'm going to do is, I'm 527 00:32:22,121 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: purely going to trust that the greatest gifts are coming 528 00:32:26,761 --> 00:32:30,201 Speaker 1: whatever the result is. If the result was cancer, and 529 00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:32,121 Speaker 1: it was this is our process and this is what 530 00:32:32,161 --> 00:32:35,041 Speaker 1: we're doing, and this is your life, and you've got 531 00:32:36,321 --> 00:32:39,001 Speaker 1: X amount of time to live, that is my story 532 00:32:40,281 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: and there it has to be surrendered to that and 533 00:32:42,601 --> 00:32:45,241 Speaker 1: trust in that. And that's incredibly hard and I'm sure 534 00:32:45,321 --> 00:32:49,041 Speaker 1: so triggering for so many people listening, and hard for 535 00:32:49,121 --> 00:32:51,801 Speaker 1: me to even say, having lost a mother that way 536 00:32:52,681 --> 00:32:54,801 Speaker 1: and all of the fallout and pain of that, like 537 00:32:54,841 --> 00:32:58,361 Speaker 1: I can't even I can imagine it as a child myself, 538 00:32:58,401 --> 00:33:00,361 Speaker 1: but to put that onto my own child, I cannot 539 00:33:00,361 --> 00:33:04,401 Speaker 1: even fathom. But what else would I do with this information? 540 00:33:05,481 --> 00:33:08,961 Speaker 1: Is the information and then turning up to the information 541 00:33:09,121 --> 00:33:14,481 Speaker 1: with deep trust you have your accessibility to having options 542 00:33:14,521 --> 00:33:17,121 Speaker 1: around that is so different. How you're going to respond. 543 00:33:17,241 --> 00:33:19,921 Speaker 1: I mean, cancer loves stress. Do I want to be 544 00:33:19,961 --> 00:33:21,801 Speaker 1: in a stress response. Do I want to be in 545 00:33:21,801 --> 00:33:24,321 Speaker 1: a gratitude response to where I want to be surrounding 546 00:33:24,321 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: myself with joy and laughter and funny films, just like 547 00:33:27,481 --> 00:33:29,401 Speaker 1: The Secret. Does you know there's that woman that talks 548 00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:34,841 Speaker 1: about her cancer experience. It's like you get to arrive 549 00:33:35,001 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: to information in different ways, and that's the power I 550 00:33:40,321 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: think of a rise and co creation. It's like you 551 00:33:43,361 --> 00:33:46,401 Speaker 1: don't just get this shitty thing to happen and that's 552 00:33:46,441 --> 00:33:48,081 Speaker 1: the end of the line, and you just spiral in 553 00:33:48,121 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: the world. Shit, It's like, no, we now, okay, this 554 00:33:51,401 --> 00:33:55,241 Speaker 1: is an initiation, right, like the phoenix rising out of 555 00:33:55,321 --> 00:34:00,321 Speaker 1: the fire. Again, this is another opportunity And so what 556 00:34:00,321 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: are you going to do? 557 00:34:03,401 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: How old was your mom when she was? Was she? 558 00:34:07,401 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: And she when she was d one? So like ten 559 00:34:14,521 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: years older than me now, which is like crazy, yeah 560 00:34:17,481 --> 00:34:18,561 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah. 561 00:34:18,641 --> 00:34:23,041 Speaker 2: Interesting, Like so for anyone who hasn't heard sort of 562 00:34:23,081 --> 00:34:25,321 Speaker 2: like the backstory of it, and because I did actually 563 00:34:25,321 --> 00:34:31,961 Speaker 2: want to talk about this because it's almost the cycle 564 00:34:32,281 --> 00:34:35,641 Speaker 2: of this, and I guess listening to it from an 565 00:34:35,681 --> 00:34:40,121 Speaker 2: outsider's perspective and someone who was like sat with you, 566 00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:42,521 Speaker 2: you know last year when you were going through this like, 567 00:34:42,601 --> 00:34:45,801 Speaker 2: as you call it, existential crisis, after you've just had 568 00:34:45,921 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: sort of like just heard this potential diagnosis to then 569 00:34:50,641 --> 00:34:54,801 Speaker 2: like a year later, Arise is literally about to launch 570 00:34:55,721 --> 00:35:01,921 Speaker 2: and you hit the same potential diagnosis. Yeah, to move 571 00:35:02,081 --> 00:35:05,161 Speaker 2: through it and the story to look different is it's 572 00:35:05,241 --> 00:35:06,241 Speaker 2: really interesting. 573 00:35:07,041 --> 00:35:17,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's heavily confronting. Yeah. And there's something about like 574 00:35:17,481 --> 00:35:21,801 Speaker 1: losing a parent and going through a trauma that you 575 00:35:22,041 --> 00:35:27,081 Speaker 1: feel you're stained with the potential of having the thing 576 00:35:27,721 --> 00:35:31,641 Speaker 1: and having their experience. You know, I'm sure lots of 577 00:35:31,721 --> 00:35:35,521 Speaker 1: people that have lost a parent to cancer feel like 578 00:35:35,561 --> 00:35:38,521 Speaker 1: a shadow lurking around them that it could maybe be 579 00:35:38,641 --> 00:35:41,881 Speaker 1: them one day, you know, even though you like can 580 00:35:41,921 --> 00:35:45,841 Speaker 1: go about your life normally, it's always just there if 581 00:35:45,881 --> 00:35:47,881 Speaker 1: there's a pain, or if there's a twinge, or if 582 00:35:47,921 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: there's a something. And so I think it's been a 583 00:35:55,001 --> 00:36:02,121 Speaker 1: really huge lesson for me around my grief, but also 584 00:36:02,241 --> 00:36:03,841 Speaker 1: around what my story is. 585 00:36:04,481 --> 00:36:04,681 Speaker 2: Yeah. 586 00:36:04,721 --> 00:36:09,201 Speaker 1: You know, I think as children, we model our parents 587 00:36:09,321 --> 00:36:13,761 Speaker 1: so much from the way they behaved, the way they work, 588 00:36:13,801 --> 00:36:15,841 Speaker 1: and what industries they're in and all of the things 589 00:36:15,881 --> 00:36:18,001 Speaker 1: that even when they get a disease with there's some 590 00:36:18,041 --> 00:36:22,721 Speaker 1: part of us that thinks there's modeling in that, and 591 00:36:22,801 --> 00:36:27,841 Speaker 1: I just have to really trust that it's just not 592 00:36:27,961 --> 00:36:31,881 Speaker 1: my story, you know, But also like really learn from 593 00:36:31,921 --> 00:36:37,401 Speaker 1: the things that were presented to me through that two 594 00:36:37,481 --> 00:36:43,401 Speaker 1: weeks of waiting, you know, like are you best suited 595 00:36:43,601 --> 00:36:47,361 Speaker 1: to the amount of work, busy chaos that you're kind 596 00:36:47,401 --> 00:36:53,361 Speaker 1: of inclined towards. Are you stressing more than is needed? 597 00:36:53,521 --> 00:36:55,601 Speaker 1: Like what could change in your lifestyle? I want to 598 00:36:55,601 --> 00:36:57,441 Speaker 1: get rid of everything too, Mickey, Like I want to 599 00:36:57,481 --> 00:37:00,441 Speaker 1: get like the car and clothes, and I just don't 600 00:37:00,481 --> 00:37:04,401 Speaker 1: want things. I just I also want to get back 601 00:37:04,441 --> 00:37:07,041 Speaker 1: into the world. Like I think when we work so 602 00:37:07,201 --> 00:37:10,921 Speaker 1: heavily and we have small children and we're addicted to 603 00:37:10,961 --> 00:37:16,641 Speaker 1: the doing, we're actually not even outside experiencing life apart 604 00:37:16,681 --> 00:37:19,201 Speaker 1: from traumas that hit us that we're forced to deal with, 605 00:37:20,121 --> 00:37:23,561 Speaker 1: Like what are we actually doing outside of ourselves? What 606 00:37:23,601 --> 00:37:25,681 Speaker 1: are we experiencing in the world that we can come 607 00:37:25,721 --> 00:37:30,641 Speaker 1: back and be great and with more depth and breadth 608 00:37:30,681 --> 00:37:32,921 Speaker 1: apart from just trauma, you know. 609 00:37:34,361 --> 00:37:37,641 Speaker 2: I think we underestimate the power of tools, And I 610 00:37:37,681 --> 00:37:42,721 Speaker 2: think like a rise is in my experience so far 611 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:49,841 Speaker 2: of it is just having really potent tools because the 612 00:37:49,921 --> 00:37:53,441 Speaker 2: thing is like a lot of the time we especially 613 00:37:53,481 --> 00:37:56,161 Speaker 2: in moments where we are just like I don't know 614 00:37:56,201 --> 00:37:59,881 Speaker 2: what I'm doing anymore. I'm really flustered. We need tangible shit. 615 00:38:00,601 --> 00:38:03,801 Speaker 2: We need things that are going to be like if 616 00:38:03,841 --> 00:38:07,281 Speaker 2: I do this, you know, like there're things that because 617 00:38:07,321 --> 00:38:11,441 Speaker 2: even just the intention of whatever the tool is, and 618 00:38:11,481 --> 00:38:13,721 Speaker 2: you know, we said, everyone's got their own different gateway 619 00:38:13,801 --> 00:38:17,521 Speaker 2: drug whatever works for them. But the intention of going 620 00:38:17,641 --> 00:38:20,321 Speaker 2: this is going to help me, this is going to 621 00:38:20,401 --> 00:38:23,161 Speaker 2: help bring me out of this is so powerful. 622 00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:27,321 Speaker 1: There is no way, and I've got a neuroscientist to 623 00:38:27,401 --> 00:38:31,601 Speaker 1: prove it that you don't practice this and your life 624 00:38:31,641 --> 00:38:35,841 Speaker 1: doesn't change for the better. There is no way that 625 00:38:35,961 --> 00:38:41,241 Speaker 1: if you start your mourning ritual and you can choose 626 00:38:41,281 --> 00:38:46,041 Speaker 1: what that looks like, but that's anchored ingratitude. There's some priming, 627 00:38:46,121 --> 00:38:49,321 Speaker 1: visualization manifestation in there, and you go into the world, 628 00:38:49,881 --> 00:38:53,481 Speaker 1: whether you stub your foot out of the bed and 629 00:38:53,521 --> 00:38:57,521 Speaker 1: your dog's vomited on the couch, right, the way you 630 00:38:57,561 --> 00:39:00,321 Speaker 1: will look at that if your mourning ritual is in 631 00:39:00,441 --> 00:39:07,681 Speaker 1: place vastly different. You are in control your mind, your 632 00:39:07,681 --> 00:39:11,681 Speaker 1: rearticular activation system. The way the tissue from the back 633 00:39:11,681 --> 00:39:14,241 Speaker 1: of your eye is connected to your brain. The way 634 00:39:14,281 --> 00:39:19,121 Speaker 1: you see the world if you've set yourself up for success, 635 00:39:19,401 --> 00:39:23,481 Speaker 1: is vastly different. So every single day me and the 636 00:39:23,561 --> 00:39:25,481 Speaker 1: kids get up, the first thing we say is it's 637 00:39:25,521 --> 00:39:28,041 Speaker 1: going to be a great day. Oh yeah, like that 638 00:39:28,321 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: when you're in an alpha state, when you wake up 639 00:39:30,921 --> 00:39:34,201 Speaker 1: saying something. And it could be opportunities find me. It 640 00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:37,521 Speaker 1: could be ease and flowers everywhere. It could be I 641 00:39:37,561 --> 00:39:40,121 Speaker 1: am deeply safe and loved. It could be any of 642 00:39:40,161 --> 00:39:44,841 Speaker 1: those things. You know that that is starting you and 643 00:39:44,881 --> 00:39:51,081 Speaker 1: you're in this alpha state between waking and sleeping. It's potent, right, 644 00:39:51,761 --> 00:39:54,721 Speaker 1: So you're using that and you're anchoring in and then 645 00:39:54,721 --> 00:39:57,721 Speaker 1: you start your morning ritual. Your reticular activation system is 646 00:39:57,761 --> 00:40:01,721 Speaker 1: looking for evidence to find that you're correct. Our brains 647 00:40:01,801 --> 00:40:04,561 Speaker 1: want to know that we're right. So you say it's 648 00:40:04,601 --> 00:40:08,801 Speaker 1: a great It will find evidence. It will go Oh, 649 00:40:08,841 --> 00:40:11,241 Speaker 1: the dog vomited on the couch. Thank god, it has 650 00:40:11,321 --> 00:40:14,721 Speaker 1: a really highly intellectual immune system that it can purge. 651 00:40:15,601 --> 00:40:17,521 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a little hug and clean up, 652 00:40:17,521 --> 00:40:21,441 Speaker 1: and thank god it's okay, versus the dog vomited on 653 00:40:21,481 --> 00:40:25,081 Speaker 1: the couch. You know what I'm saying. So it changed 654 00:40:25,121 --> 00:40:28,281 Speaker 1: your perspective changes in everything. And I think that is 655 00:40:28,841 --> 00:40:33,001 Speaker 1: you are then a magnet for miracles when you're in 656 00:40:33,041 --> 00:40:36,281 Speaker 1: that space, like you'll see you'll see all of the 657 00:40:36,281 --> 00:40:38,761 Speaker 1: things and you'll be like, ah, is this a coincidence 658 00:40:38,801 --> 00:40:40,721 Speaker 1: that the genes that I was about to purchase yesterday 659 00:40:40,721 --> 00:40:44,561 Speaker 1: in my cart are now fifty percent off? Like all 660 00:40:44,561 --> 00:40:46,321 Speaker 1: of these things, You'll just be like, is this, Oh 661 00:40:46,321 --> 00:40:49,001 Speaker 1: my god, I just bumped into an old friend. I 662 00:40:49,041 --> 00:40:51,441 Speaker 1: was just thinking about them, or I just got whatever. 663 00:40:51,481 --> 00:40:55,201 Speaker 1: It is. Like, we call them micro manifestations, and as 664 00:40:55,241 --> 00:40:59,361 Speaker 1: they evolve and as they develop, you build evidence you 665 00:40:59,401 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: can go into the bigger ones. 666 00:41:00,721 --> 00:41:03,961 Speaker 2: What I really loved about just that practice and everything 667 00:41:04,001 --> 00:41:06,921 Speaker 2: that you explain the science of it all was that 668 00:41:07,081 --> 00:41:10,801 Speaker 2: you wake up deciding, not deciding, but remembering that you're 669 00:41:10,841 --> 00:41:15,001 Speaker 2: in control. And I think that is really really, really powerful, 670 00:41:15,041 --> 00:41:19,441 Speaker 2: that autonomy and recognizing that. It's like it's not everything 671 00:41:19,521 --> 00:41:22,641 Speaker 2: happening to you. It's like, Okay, I'm in control of 672 00:41:22,641 --> 00:41:25,281 Speaker 2: my body. I'm in control of my mind and my life, 673 00:41:25,401 --> 00:41:29,121 Speaker 2: and I'm going to really relinquish that control instead of 674 00:41:29,161 --> 00:41:31,841 Speaker 2: letting it have control over me exactly. 675 00:41:32,001 --> 00:41:34,681 Speaker 1: It's kind of like are you on the back foot 676 00:41:34,761 --> 00:41:36,641 Speaker 1: or you on the front foot. Yeah, And that's why 677 00:41:36,761 --> 00:41:39,121 Speaker 1: I'm saying, even to the skeptics, even if you took 678 00:41:39,201 --> 00:41:43,041 Speaker 1: spirituality and magnetism and the universe and all that out 679 00:41:43,041 --> 00:41:49,801 Speaker 1: of it, you still will have the scientific backed stuff 680 00:41:49,961 --> 00:41:53,201 Speaker 1: that works, you know. And so I think that this 681 00:41:53,561 --> 00:41:59,041 Speaker 1: is life changing for everybody, and I feel sad. I 682 00:41:59,081 --> 00:42:03,321 Speaker 1: feel sad that people haven't had access to it, you know, Yeah, 683 00:42:03,601 --> 00:42:08,081 Speaker 1: was it such simple stuff? Can you before we finish up, 684 00:42:08,121 --> 00:42:12,401 Speaker 1: can you explain a RISE for us? Because I know 685 00:42:12,641 --> 00:42:14,561 Speaker 1: so many people be listening to this now and they 686 00:42:14,601 --> 00:42:15,561 Speaker 1: will be like, what is it? 687 00:42:15,761 --> 00:42:17,641 Speaker 2: How the fuck do I get apart? How do I 688 00:42:17,841 --> 00:42:18,361 Speaker 2: join this? 689 00:42:19,441 --> 00:42:24,961 Speaker 1: A Rise is a platform about co creation, but there 690 00:42:24,961 --> 00:42:29,081 Speaker 1: are different pathways in right your gateway drug. So there 691 00:42:29,161 --> 00:42:34,201 Speaker 1: is the community element. The community is filled with like 692 00:42:34,281 --> 00:42:37,321 Speaker 1: minded people. It's the place when you start doing this 693 00:42:37,481 --> 00:42:40,401 Speaker 1: work and you're like, oh my gosh, my friends are 694 00:42:40,441 --> 00:42:43,481 Speaker 1: judging me, my family's judging me. Who can I share 695 00:42:43,521 --> 00:42:45,801 Speaker 1: this with I've had a huge win or I'm having 696 00:42:45,881 --> 00:42:50,521 Speaker 1: a huge block. So that is a membership that gives 697 00:42:50,561 --> 00:42:55,041 Speaker 1: you access to the course for free within the price, 698 00:42:55,201 --> 00:42:57,761 Speaker 1: and then you've got access to me. So there's lots 699 00:42:57,761 --> 00:43:00,961 Speaker 1: of questions that come up, and I'm available to you. 700 00:43:01,041 --> 00:43:03,641 Speaker 1: We do Q and A over three days. You also 701 00:43:03,721 --> 00:43:07,841 Speaker 1: have amazing facilitators once a month come in and hold 702 00:43:07,961 --> 00:43:09,361 Speaker 1: workshops that you were a part of. 703 00:43:09,561 --> 00:43:12,801 Speaker 2: You saw that that was that's so good. 704 00:43:13,321 --> 00:43:16,681 Speaker 1: Kundolini Activation workshop was like mind blowing. So every week, 705 00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:19,641 Speaker 1: so there's it's a it's a place that you're held. 706 00:43:20,121 --> 00:43:22,121 Speaker 1: All the work is in that community. 707 00:43:22,401 --> 00:43:22,561 Speaker 2: Right. 708 00:43:22,881 --> 00:43:25,681 Speaker 1: But you might go, I'm really new. I just want 709 00:43:25,721 --> 00:43:27,601 Speaker 1: to try out this course. I don't want to go 710 00:43:27,721 --> 00:43:29,161 Speaker 1: all in yet. I just want to see if it's 711 00:43:29,161 --> 00:43:32,001 Speaker 1: for me, the course is then for you. That's one 712 00:43:32,081 --> 00:43:33,761 Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine bucks. It was supposed to be 713 00:43:33,801 --> 00:43:38,561 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars and I was like, it has to 714 00:43:38,601 --> 00:43:42,241 Speaker 1: be affordable. It cannot be two thousand dollars, even though 715 00:43:42,281 --> 00:43:45,281 Speaker 1: the value is two thousand. I was like, we cannot. 716 00:43:45,841 --> 00:43:49,121 Speaker 1: So I've taken a little hit there, but I believe 717 00:43:49,441 --> 00:43:52,081 Speaker 1: that the people need it. Yeah, I wonder if we 718 00:43:52,121 --> 00:43:55,201 Speaker 1: give them a code today, I'm just going row yeah, fuck, 719 00:43:55,281 --> 00:43:58,321 Speaker 1: yeah go people should we give like if you use 720 00:43:58,361 --> 00:44:01,761 Speaker 1: the code mickey, yeah, you get twenty five percent off. 721 00:44:01,841 --> 00:44:04,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, I'll put it on my stories too. 722 00:44:04,121 --> 00:44:07,441 Speaker 1: And then we have the app is almost being developed, 723 00:44:07,801 --> 00:44:10,721 Speaker 1: it's almost done. And then I'm writing the book as 724 00:44:10,801 --> 00:44:16,201 Speaker 1: we speak, so we're almost done. So it's truly a movement. 725 00:44:16,241 --> 00:44:19,881 Speaker 1: Oh and there's workshops in person workshops. So the first one. 726 00:44:19,921 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm already sharing all of this because 727 00:44:22,001 --> 00:44:25,201 Speaker 1: it's I'm not even allowed, but we have gotten wrong 728 00:44:26,601 --> 00:44:30,561 Speaker 1: Eden retreat where I had the nervous breakdown. Yes, I 729 00:44:30,881 --> 00:44:34,001 Speaker 1: this is such a fun manifestation story. I said to 730 00:44:34,241 --> 00:44:37,321 Speaker 1: my colleague Jewels, I said, you and I are going 731 00:44:37,401 --> 00:44:38,921 Speaker 1: to go away. I want us to go to a 732 00:44:38,961 --> 00:44:42,401 Speaker 1: health retreat. She was like, yeah, great. Sure. In my 733 00:44:42,641 --> 00:44:47,121 Speaker 1: inbox that day, the new GM of Eden was like, 734 00:44:47,241 --> 00:44:50,521 Speaker 1: I'd love to host you to come back to Eden. 735 00:44:50,601 --> 00:44:53,081 Speaker 1: It's been a year. I feel like our brand's aligned. 736 00:44:53,561 --> 00:44:55,561 Speaker 1: And I was like, thank you so much, nice to 737 00:44:55,561 --> 00:44:59,241 Speaker 1: meet you. It would only be if my colleague can 738 00:44:59,281 --> 00:45:03,561 Speaker 1: attend with me. He said, absolutely, no problem. So then 739 00:45:03,601 --> 00:45:05,761 Speaker 1: I say to him, I have an op oportunity for you. 740 00:45:06,561 --> 00:45:11,481 Speaker 1: I would love to host a workshop for Eden, and 741 00:45:11,521 --> 00:45:14,601 Speaker 1: he said, I'll do one better. I think we do 742 00:45:15,041 --> 00:45:19,081 Speaker 1: Eden and arise for like five days over New Year's Eve. 743 00:45:20,161 --> 00:45:23,721 Speaker 1: You can bring in whatever facilitators you want. David the 744 00:45:23,761 --> 00:45:26,041 Speaker 1: medium is going to be there and I get to 745 00:45:26,161 --> 00:45:31,641 Speaker 1: hold these incredibly powerful events. Now, so all of this 746 00:45:31,761 --> 00:45:34,921 Speaker 1: is in the works. Tickets are not available for that. 747 00:45:34,961 --> 00:45:38,961 Speaker 1: I should definitely email them that I've shared all of 748 00:45:39,001 --> 00:45:44,401 Speaker 1: this and sorry. But you can access the course, you 749 00:45:44,401 --> 00:45:47,641 Speaker 1: can join the community. I promise you. It will change 750 00:45:47,681 --> 00:45:50,841 Speaker 1: your life. There's no way it cannot. 751 00:45:50,561 --> 00:45:53,321 Speaker 2: Put me on the waiting list. I'm coming, you're there. 752 00:45:53,721 --> 00:45:57,841 Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine us together like bia 753 00:45:58,001 --> 00:46:00,081 Speaker 1: ceremony and oh my god, it'll be amazing. 754 00:46:00,721 --> 00:46:03,321 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on to the village, 755 00:46:03,361 --> 00:46:08,921 Speaker 2: crazy lady, for sharing your beautiful story to just see 756 00:46:09,041 --> 00:46:11,561 Speaker 2: like the cycle come to where it is. Thank you 757 00:46:11,681 --> 00:46:15,401 Speaker 2: so much, Beautiful, you have created something magical. You're amazing.