1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: From the newsroom and news Still come today. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Good day there, I'm Andrew Bucklow. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 3: Well, it's been more than twenty years since the Barley bombings, 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: which killed two hundred and two people, including eighty eight Ossies, 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: but this week the atrocity has been back in the 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: headlines thanks to some new comments from convicted terrorist Umar Ptek, 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: who helped make the explosives for the attack. In just 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: a moment, we'll find out what he's had to say, 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: and then we're going to play you an incredibly emotional 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: interview with an Ossie woman who was injured and whose 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: mum was killed in the blasts. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 4: There's this void in me that I will never get 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: to see my mum again. I'll never get to hug her, 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: She'll never get to meet my kids. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: Joining me now is news dot com dot Au reporter Chantell. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: Francis Chantell. You wrote a story this week for our 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: Side about Umar Pateek. He's the man who assembled the 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: explosives used in the Barley bombings back in two thousand 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: and two. He's opened up about his new life recently. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 5: All right, so Uma went on the run after the 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 5: Bali bombings. He was eventually arrested in Pakistan in twenty 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 5: eleven and he was sentenced to twenty years in prison, 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 5: but then in December twenty twenty two, he was released 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 5: on parole after serving just over half of his sentence. 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 5: And we think he's living a fairly quiet life in 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 5: Indonesia now, But this week he launched his own coffee 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 5: roasting business. He told local media while he was spreaking 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 5: the venture, once I can coct at bombs and now 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 5: I can coct coffee. 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that statement has upset a lot of victims' families 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: and rightfully so. I mean, he really shouldn't be referencing 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: the attack while trying to promote his new business. 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: It's extremely distasteful. 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: UMA's also made headlines this week from what I understand, 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: for a comment he made about the bombings. 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Yep, he has so now. 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 5: Uma said the two thousand and two attack was to 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 5: retaliate the deaths of Muslims in Palestine. Previously, he said 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 5: there was no way he could have refused, But then 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 5: it's emerged this week that he is now claiming to 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: have pushed back on the plan to detonate bombs in Bali. 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: He claims he argued they should have gone to Palestine 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: and fight the Israeli army rather than blowing up and 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 5: I quote white people who have nothing to do with 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 5: those fairs. Ultimately, though, the other terrorists in the group 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 5: ignored his apparent objections. 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all know what happened next. 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: The Bali bombings, of course, took place in October twelve, 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: two thousand and two. One person who was there that 50 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: night was Christie Webster. She's an Aussie. She was just 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: fifteen years old at the time, and she was over 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: there holidaying with her mum, Robin, who. 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: Was tragically killed in the blasts. 54 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: Now, a couple of years ago, Christie opened up to 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: me about that horrific night, and I'm going to play 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: some of that conversation now. So it was a two 57 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: week trip from what I believe. On your last night 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: in Bali, you decided to go to the Sari Club. 59 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: What was it like in there that evening? 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: It was amazing. My atmosphere was alectic. 61 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: There was music, We were allowed to have some drinks, 62 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: and we ran into school friends that I knew from 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: back home, So girls we went to school with, and 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: like we weren't even supposed to be in Bali that 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: last night, our flights had been canceled, and then we 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: went shopping on the last day. 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Ranning to the. 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 4: Girls while we were shopping and they all said, let's 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: go to Sari Club. So my mom was like, yep, 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: let's do it. Let's go, let's go enjoy yell night. 71 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: At eleven pm, Christie's mum, Robin, told her daughter to 72 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: start saying her goodbyes. Is They were going to head 73 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: back to the hotel in just five minutes, but before 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: they could leave, a suicide bomber inside the pub across 75 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: the road from the Sari Club detonated a bomb in 76 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: his backpack. 77 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: What do you remember from that moment. 78 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: Well, after the first bomb had gone off, we just 79 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: assumed that a speaker had balloon or something. There was 80 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: a loud bang, but obviously, being we're on the dance 81 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: for myself and the other girls, my mom and Debbie 82 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: and Abby were at the front of the club. Yeah, 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: we just thought that a speaker had blown and the 84 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: music was going to come back on. Momentarily, we had 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: no idea of what was about to happen next. 86 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: Twenty seconds later, a second and more powerful bomb, which 87 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: was hidden inside a vehicle parked outside the Sari Club 88 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: was detonated by another suicide bomber. 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: I didn't think i'd cried, but. 90 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: Well, the next bomb went off and I just remember 91 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 4: being pinned down by debris. 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. 93 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: I came to, and I was just trapped underneath everything 94 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: and trying to get out. And as I've come out, 95 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: like I could just hear rows of flame, I could 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: hear screams. 97 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: I just didn't know what to do, where to look. 98 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: And then I saw. 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: A couple of other people running towards a brick wall 100 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: or a wall, and as we ran there, people were 101 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: just screaming from a roof above, like just give us 102 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: your hands, give us your hands, and we've just tried 103 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: to reach up and they're just pulling us over these walls. 104 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: And I just remember looking down. 105 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 4: I had no bottoms on, no shoes, they'd all ripped off. 106 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 4: And turn around and my back has like being engulfed 107 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: in a flame. 108 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: Christy had a badly burnt back and her top lip 109 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: had been blown off by the force of the explosion. 110 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: As I've got to the top of the roof, I've 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: seen girls that I was on the dance for with 112 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: and we've run across this roof that had already caved in, 113 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: and then we had to jump down off this two 114 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: story building down in Tea, screaming arms below, and it 115 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 4: was just like a no look back moment. It was 116 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: just jumped down and then held on to the girls 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: and we just were running up and down the street screaming. 118 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: Could you find your mum? In that moment? Did you 119 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: know where she was? 120 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: No? Like get that moment. Everything was so so we 121 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: didn't even know what had happened. I just saw the girls, 122 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 4: and just seeing the girls was or that was keeping 123 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: us going. 124 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: I think, really, you guys, this is horrendous. It's huge, 125 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: it's scary. 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 4: People are burnt everywhere, it's an LPG container, there's people 127 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: did for everything. 128 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: So you got out onto the road. What was the 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: scene like outside the Sari Club? 130 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 4: To be honest, I just remember it just being like 131 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: a bomb site, really literally, and just people screaming and 132 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: running and I think we just adrenaline just kicks in. 133 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: We didn't know what we were doing or where we're going. 134 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: And then we were just lucky enough that this couple 135 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: from Perth, there were two brothers and their two partners 136 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: at the time, had found us and they grabbed us 137 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: to take us to safety. 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: Those brothers were Michael and Anthony, who spotted a badly 139 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: injured Christie stumbling out of the Sari club. 140 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: I passed out as soon as they picked me up. 141 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: I guess just because of everything, the emotion, the rawness, 142 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 4: the fact that I had burns to my back, my 143 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 4: lip had fallen off, the injuries. They were just trying 144 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: to get us to somewhere safe. I think we ended 145 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: up going back to I think it was Ashley, one 146 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: of the girl's grandparents who didn't go out that night. 147 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: We went back to their hotel room because that was 148 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 4: all that we knew where we could get back to. 149 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: And then they were just trying to get me into 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: the doctors, the hospitals, but everything was closed. So at 151 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: that point we were just waiting for doctors to come 152 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: back to our room to treat me, to find out 153 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: the severity of all of us and make sure we're safe. 154 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: Before we could figure out where we needed to go next. 155 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: All I just kept saying was where's my mum, What's 156 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: going on? Where am I? I was literally by myself 157 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: at this point with random strangers. 158 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: Christy, who was badly injured from the bomb blasts, was 159 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: waiting in a hotel room with the brothers from Perth 160 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: and their partners. They were on the phone trying desperately 161 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: to get Christie a spot on the first medical evacuation 162 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: flight out of Balley to Australia. Eventually a doctor arrived 163 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: to check on Christie's wounds. 164 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: They had a doctor come to me, but then they 165 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: said that I had to go out. There was nothing 166 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: more they could do to me. They just put me 167 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: into a bath and kept me sitting in a bath 168 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: just for my burns on my back, and they just 169 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: patted up my lip. But my lip needed to have 170 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: been stitched, so they were like, you have to go 171 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: and get. 172 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: Treatment, and then did you go to a local hospital? 173 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: A local hospital? But I couldn't get in. 174 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: I just remember I was in the back of a 175 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: van and opened up the doors and there was like 176 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: police with big massive guns out the back of it, 177 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: and they were just like you can't come in, like 178 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: there's no room, and they ended up taking me and 179 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: someone else I don't know, the person in there the 180 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: van with us to like a police medical center a 181 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: fair bit out of town to where I needed to 182 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: go to have my treatment done. 183 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: So you had treatment there. What happened next from that? 184 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: They got me back to the hotel with the girls, 185 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: and they just bought some clothes for me. So I 186 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: just remember them coming back with like a little sarong 187 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: and a T shirt, just something so I had something 188 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: gone and was dressed decently. And then they made the 189 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: phone call to my. 190 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: Dad, which was yeah. I just remember. 191 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: Him saying, put my daughter and put my daughter on 192 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: and I spoke to him. He's like the first thing 193 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: he could say is what were you doing in a 194 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: night club? 195 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Like being fifteen? 196 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: And yeah, I just that voice in my head right now. 197 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: You must have just been so confused about I still 198 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: don't know what's happening to my mom. 199 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, I thought my mom. 200 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: I thought my mom would be out looking for me, 201 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: not me looking for my mom. I mean I never 202 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: got the chance to go out looking for my mom 203 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: because they just needed to get me home and get 204 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: the medical treatment, and I guess'd be back home with 205 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: family and people that I knew. So I just remember 206 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: going back to our hotel room to get everything so 207 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: that I could obviously fly home. 208 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: On the flight, I went to get my passport. 209 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: And everything that I need, and I remember just going 210 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: to the hotel and back in the day like when 211 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: you had to go to like a safety deposit box. 212 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: I remember them saying, oh, here all the messages, and 213 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: it was all the messages I'd left for my mom, 214 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 4: like Mom, I'm fine, Where are you? Mam, I'm fine, 215 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: and message after the message went unanswered, and yeah, I 216 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: thought she was out there just still looking for me, 217 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: and I still had hope. 218 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: How long after the attack did you get back on 219 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: a plane to come back to Australia. 220 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: I was on the part of the first evacuation flights 221 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: out of there back to Sydney, so I think it 222 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: was maybe within twenty four to forty eight hours. 223 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: When Christie arrived back in Australia. She was still unsure 224 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: if her mom was dead or alive. 225 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: We had forensics at our house back in Sydney a 226 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: week two weeks later, just going through everything from hair 227 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: follicles to going through everything in our bedroom just. 228 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: So that they could take back to try not to 229 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: find my mum. 230 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: As the days went on, Christy and her family realized 231 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: that the chances of her mum being found alive were 232 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: pretty slim and eventually they received the news that they'd 233 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: been dreading. 234 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: I just remember we got sat down. The police came 235 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 4: to our door, and then I just remember our dad's 236 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: sitting us down. At this point, there was still always 237 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: an influx of people. There was fifty to one hundred 238 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: people at our house daily, and the police came in up. 239 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: All our family were there, like my immediate family, and 240 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: they confirmed that my mom had been identified and that 241 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: her flight would be arriving home with her coffin in 242 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: a couple of days. 243 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: We'll be back in just a moment. Welcome back. 244 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: You're listening to a chat with Christy Webster, who lost 245 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: her mum in the Barley bombings. 246 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 6: This is a horrific and challenging and traumatic time for 247 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 6: our country. There is a deep sense not only of 248 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 6: shock and disbelief, but a very deep sense of anger 249 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 6: and a desire on the part of the Australian community 250 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 6: to ensure that those responsible are brought to justice. 251 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: Well that was former Prime Minister John Howard back in 252 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: two thousand and two. Christy, When you go through something 253 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: like this, being caught up in a terror attack, losing 254 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: your mum, losing some of your friends, I mean, how 255 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: long does it actually take to sync in? 256 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: I guess it was still so surreal. 257 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: Like I when we got home, I was in and 258 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: out of hospital for the first couple of weeks, just 259 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: getting treatments, so and then I'd come home seeing all 260 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: my family and friends and like. 261 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: The house full of florals. 262 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: I obviously knew something big had happened, but never really 263 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: believed it or. 264 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Wanted to believe it. 265 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: I guess it's I mean, I still don't believe it 266 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: to this day, but I guess the reality of your 267 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: mum not coming home from work or picking up from 268 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 4: school again, or taking you your school formal, I think 269 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 4: that's when it all started to sink him, that this 270 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: is life, This is it. 271 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: What would you say when you look back on that event? 272 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: Is your main emotion now? Is it sadness? Is it anger? 273 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: Is it regret? 274 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 4: I guess just sadness. I guess there's an emptiness. There's 275 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: this void in me. I will never get to see 276 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: my mom again, I'll never get to hug her, She'll 277 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: never get to meet my kids. And I guess just 278 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: knowing that she was my best friend and. 279 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: I've never had that again, and personally do you still 280 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: live with any injuries physical or mental from that attack? 281 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 4: Not physical, I guess just mentally and emotionally. I think 282 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: the hardest parties, as I just said, having kids and 283 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 4: knowing that my mom never got to meet them, my 284 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: wedding day, my mom. 285 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Never got to be there and get me ready. 286 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: All those little things that we take for granted, they're 287 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: the big things. They're the things that matter the most, 288 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: and the things that I never got to experience. 289 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: To finish with, Christy, tell me a little bit about 290 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: your mum. What was she like? 291 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: Um? 292 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: She was beautiful, she was lovely. She was an entertainer. 293 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: She was always the life of a party. She was 294 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: my inspiration, she was. 295 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: My hero, my best friend. 296 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Christy Webster chatting to me back in 297 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. 298 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. I'll chat to you 299 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: again tomorrow. 300 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: Follow or subscribe to from the newsroom wherever you get 301 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: your podcasts.