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Speaker 1: I know that that's sort of that thing that's almost

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Speaker 2: Can you tell can you tell the listeners Matthew as

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Speaker 2: what he peas? Has he always been like that?

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Speaker 3: He used to throw the peas under the table and

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Speaker 2: Oh really, even.

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Speaker 3: As a baby when you used to pure the veges,

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Speaker 3: And I took him to the doctor because I thought

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Speaker 2: What do you used to throw? What do you what

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Speaker 2: You know what's exciting about this? Experience. Right now, We've

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Speaker 2: We have in this room right now, there's three generations

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you excited part of this experience?

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Speaker 3: It's very good that we still all speak.

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Speaker 1: We have our moments. Yeah, Where's where's happy? Where's Joey?

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Speaker 3: He's flying in from Java today.

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Speaker 1: He had he's had a terrible experience.

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Speaker 4: He's the spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he Yeah, he was always a bit wild,

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Speaker 1: Every time and we get there made Andrew was good

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Speaker 4: So he was Joey was probably five or six. We

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Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, he used toggest to drag, drag his

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Speaker 3: And he was dragging his bottom across the Beefer was

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Speaker 2: He got his name. How did before? I want to

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Speaker 2: Because I don't know if I've ever really heard the story.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was at the karate club desk run by

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Speaker 4: Gary Sullivan. Yeah, and it was a Friday night. I

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Speaker 4: I thought, Jesus Christ, where's she come from? What a

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Speaker 3: Now my version of the story, girl I work with

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Speaker 3: karate dance state at my place. So I wasn't allowed

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Speaker 1: Was he a good sort.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was. I wasn't was he good football?

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Speaker 5: of course he was a relative of ours. Played for

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Speaker 4: He's still alive, Gary, but he's battling bad health.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know the story about that.

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Speaker 1: He played for Newtown, played the Newtown Jets with his

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I did many times, but one I remember

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Speaker 4: So he rings THESSOT police station. Because no mobiles in

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Speaker 3: Last dance? Was that?

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Speaker 1: Was always slow dance?

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Speaker 4: I couldn't stop your giggler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very fifty four years and fifty five years in February. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Back in those days. It's very traditional, right, you got

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Speaker 1: That was well, we did have to get married, so

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Speaker 2: I suppose to parents and stuff that you were pregnant.

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Speaker 3: Someone said, how to Gary proposed? And I said, I

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Speaker 2: And how curly? After that? Do you get married?

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Speaker 3: We got married six to February, and Matt was born

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Speaker 4: So girl and the girl's father lived in Coinsland, and

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Speaker 1: You know, Cooper asked me the other day. He was like,

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Speaker 1: And I thought, I thought, mate, it's Bobby Can. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He was funny, funny really what was he?

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Speaker 2: A charismatic millionaire?

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Speaker 3: He was impressed with himself, like last time we went.

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Speaker 3: Every woman that went past a look at her. Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, she's not a bad sort, and I was singing,

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Speaker 1: It's cheering for the Gold Coast.

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Speaker 1: Remember you said, I remember being a very young kid,

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Speaker 1: and he would like, this is like because June Mom's mom,

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Speaker 2: Well, just live at the well.

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Speaker 3: there and he'd bring his girlfriend. Well, Grandma could not

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Speaker 3: Take them with you now.

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Speaker 1: There it was the car used to drive us, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that red white big stripes.

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Speaker 1: We're up at the Gold Coast at Broad Boots, where

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Speaker 1: he lived near Draculas. Yes, come on, let's go, let's

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Speaker 1: we'll make the bands on playing there, and he just

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Speaker 3: They have to really shoot him.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's very much like you. You love you love getting

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Speaker 2: karaoke man, Gail. You loved singing dancing down. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Got four songs, so I can do that. I'm a believer.

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Speaker 3: Twist and shout. She was just seventeen and.

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Speaker 2: She was only said she was only.

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Speaker 1: She was just seventy, which is I saw her standing there.

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Speaker 4: Tell him the story about the rocks what not.

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Speaker 3: We went to the races and were at the rocks.

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Speaker 3: So when we went back to the Fortunes of Wars,

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So then when we come and sat down, when I

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Speaker 3: I said, okay. So then the far maid said, I've

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Speaker 3: I said, oh, can you just buy us a drink

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Speaker 4: Oh god, geez, I tell you it was there that night.

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Speaker 4: Was Kerry Hemsley, Oh buckets, Yeah, Kerry Hemsley an old

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Speaker 4: One of the right fellers.

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Speaker 3: Well they used to come up to Marcaus Sylvesters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right he was.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: We couldn't get anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Else, any place we could get on.

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Speaker 4: The council that only released so many every year, so

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Speaker 4: that's that bottle have been tempted to so out of

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Speaker 2: So do you have to with caravan do you have

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Speaker 4: You play weekly, rent.

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Speaker 2: Your rented everywhere? So that one because you eventually went

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Speaker 2: to Finger Bay Caravan Park. But the Middle Roight one,

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Speaker 2: what was that complete nudist beach?

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Speaker 4: It was a nudist boach.

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Speaker 2: And did you do you guys buy into that culture?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I remember Blake Service in his car one day that

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Speaker 4: that all you could see was us.

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Speaker 1: But I remember the first a gaz puts the cart,

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Speaker 1: he's put the caravan. We've part of the caravan, got

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Speaker 1: the n X up right. At this point, I, me

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Speaker 1: and Joey had no idea that was a nodistpech. He goes, right, boys,

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Speaker 1: what direct is going to have a swim? Well, it

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Speaker 1: was about five hundred meters over the scene dunes to

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Speaker 1: I look over and I'm going, fucking hell, it's like

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 2: How are you there?

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Speaker 1: About nine nine? I remember like the SCROTUMSLA had fucking

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Speaker 3: Andrew has been scarred because there was a blake worming

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Speaker 3: and he was and he had the belt on round

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Speaker 3: that's all he had on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're think of a nudist peach, you think

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Speaker 4: So this particular day, I said, where's the boys? I said,

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00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. She said, go and get them. Lunch

446
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 4: is ready. So I went out the yard to give

447
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 4: a whistle. No one there. Where the hell are they? Back?

448
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 4: Cat shut? I went down like an ear report in

449
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: the cariban. When I walked in, there sitting at the

450
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 4: table with a twist top or stubby and beer roote,

451
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 4: I said, what the hell you like? And I said,

452
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: we're practicing god on, hold hold us? How old nine

453
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 4: the seven?

454
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: Isn't there a story? Isn't there a story? Because you

455
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: gotta hate the caravan story stories. Isn't there a yarn

456
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: where one of the caravan neighbors had a kayak or something?

457
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, a cano.

458
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: I must have told that on Triple M. I reckon

459
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: three or four times every year on our show with

460
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: the audience, and that breaks on ofud. Hey, Maddie tell

461
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: us the the kayak story.

462
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So this blake was an old bricket. He

463
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: was he was he ruine our barstard. All the kids

464
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 4: who be playing cricket they'd hit the tennis ball up

465
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: against his caravan and he come out and take the

466
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 4: ball off them. Or they'd be playing football and the

467
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 4: ball would roll up and he and he take the

468
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: ball off them. Anywhy that? And he blues with him.

469
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 4: So Matthew wanted to go the toilet, so he went out.

470
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 4: He did each canoe the next morning about sisters because

471
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 4: of us, all I'll do blasco and fishing. He come

472
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 4: out and all sorts of carry on. The dirty bastards.

473
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 4: He seen it. You in there, Get out of here?

474
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 4: What is what's going on? He said? One of your

475
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 4: kids shdoy?

476
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: And how did I say that?

477
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: Come of that? Mate? I said, they wouldn't do that.

478
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: Kids wouldn't do that.

479
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: How did he know it was human excrement?

480
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: I don't know.

481
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: For under the get up in the middle of the

482
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: night going up to the toilet, which is one hundred meters,

483
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: so I just do a ship under it.

484
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 4: I remember.

485
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: I remember the old you had to because it was

486
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: one of those caravan parks. You had to whack the

487
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: thongs on. You get a towel and you go and

488
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: have the shower and the toilet's up at the actual block.

489
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: All together because I remember when when Jack and I

490
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: were young and we'd always go up to Finger Bay

491
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: caravan Park. You know, we'd be having shower. It was

492
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 2: like my first exposed to a locker room because there'd

493
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: just be a bunch of old blokes in there and

494
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: you're just shower next to them in your thong to

495
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: save yourself from tinier.

496
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: Yep, that's right.

497
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 4: So what about what about the year we look at

498
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 4: after the boys Matt and Joe and the girls went

499
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: the boxing day races at Newcastle. We had all the

500
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: boys there, so Samuel was the only little fella.

501
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey son, your age.

502
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 4: And is We're playing up at the laundry block. Girls

503
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: up there doing some washing and they run in one

504
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: door and out there they're running around. All the kids

505
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: were there playing and Samuel goes missing. We couldn't find

506
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 4: him anyway. He'd gone about an hour. So I was

507
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 4: absolutely but was off our heads. We didn't couldn't find him,

508
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 4: didn't know what was going on over there. Put an

509
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: announcement over the bike at the caravan park. But little

510
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: boys being lost, you know. So anyway, a cousin of

511
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 4: mine founder found him and he got into an annex

512
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 4: followed one of the kids and going into an anix.

513
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: So we went up. They told us where it was,

514
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 4: so we went up and got him. You come with me,

515
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 4: and as we're coming down the road, you're walking behind him,

516
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: pushing him in the back saying you ain't getting the

517
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 4: fucking lunch nawny boy. Yeah, the age as him that

518
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: it was Boxing day, so everyone in the street was

519
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: out at the barbecue having a beer inside the addix,

520
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 4: and you swear poor old Samuel pushing him out in

521
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 4: the back of the head and say, you're a fucking

522
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: anawning boy.

523
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: Something's ever change?

524
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: He used to be, used to be some characters.

525
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about the day joe he got out of

526
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 4: bed the ship under the tree that.

527
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: Was matt again.

528
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the tree kicked a bit of sand over poor

529
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 4: old Shane Furnes across the road. Next day he's climbed

530
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: up the tree. When he jumped out, he jumps straight

531
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 4: into the ships, got it all through his toes and.

532
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: Oh my, when you look back on uh, you know

533
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: you had obviously Kate as well. But I imagine Matthew

534
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: and Joey would have been the two hardest work or

535
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: naughtiest who would have been the hardest to race out

536
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 2: of those two. Joe Joey was Oh.

537
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: He was very big headed, Yeah, and he like it.

538
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: Couldn't handle discipline if anyone tried to discipline, and he

539
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: hated them and teachers, coaches, football coaches anyway.

540
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 4: But he wasn't frightened of anything. He dow anything, wouldn't

541
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: he Yeah, would do anything. It was about a ten

542
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: foot surfety one day and all the other guys are

543
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 4: out in the world having the time of the life.

544
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 4: I had Kate and i'd take him for a walk.

545
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: I walked up the headly and have a look, and

546
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: he's Joel. He was about eight, nine year old. He

547
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been that on that green board.

548
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: He wouldn't have been what even younger, about seven.

549
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 4: He's out the surf. So this old guy was there,

550
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: and I knew he must excuse me. Would you take

551
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 4: Cake back to the caravan garlice? So I'm going to

552
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 4: go out My young black's out in the water, go

553
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 4: and get him. So I swam all the way out

554
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 4: here's through the waves, got out of their exhausted and

555
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: he said, Dave, what are you doing out here? I said,

556
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: you know, on the beach. What are you doing out here?

557
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: So what was was matthew a lot easier then in

558
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: that sense, like to raise.

559
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 4: He's a sleep all day. So we had no trouble.

560
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: Really, we were a big sleeper back then.

561
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: Well, Matt loved the cricket too, and that was on

562
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: in the holidays and he didn't like the surf because

563
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 3: he used to get chafed. So he go down and

564
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: he didn't want to get too dark, so he go

565
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: down the beach, have a swim, go back up, watch cricket.

566
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have thirty eight years we had there at

567
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: the park.

568
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: And who when we talk about, you know, being scale

569
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: young scully wags when they get into their teens, who

570
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: was who was getting into more trouble than in the

571
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: teenager years, Like in terms of going out and drinking.

572
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: Now, the boys didn't really get into trouble or go

573
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: out drinking at that stage because they were both trying

574
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: out for football, so they used to train on a Sunday,

575
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 3: so training through the work hardly ever went out.

576
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 4: What about the night you got running by the coppers

577
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: coming after the working club, Yeah, the park with a baton, Yeah, yeah, yes,

578
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: he was having a piss in this all? Mill?

579
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were having in public?

580
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went and I went to get back into

581
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: the pub to do a piss and they said no, no,

582
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: but we've locked up. Mate, So I'm walking. I've gone

583
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: up and around hot next couple up, what are you doing?

584
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: So I'm just in away and I couldn't get the

585
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: pub to a piss anyway. Hit bellow me with a

586
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: baton and then took me the police station fingerprint of

587
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: me and went court.

588
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: What was that was that?

589
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: Why?

590
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: Surely incessant? There's enough flads urinating in public.

591
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: That's something decent exposure?

592
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 4: It was? It was this couple was no good. I

593
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: knew where he drags. One afternoon, I knew it was

594
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: a work and I went around under chatty. Yeah totally.

595
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: What I thought of him?

596
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: And what and what what did you think of him?

597
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: I just told him as a grub and I'll do it.

598
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: But you know, things were used to do. Like I

599
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: look back now, something I like At the time, I

600
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: thought it was a little weird, but I looked back

601
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: it out and I think, fucking you guys must have

602
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: been Jesus. Like I used to get your where your bikini?

603
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I put come out and I put gals two piece

604
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: bikini on and I stand out in front of the

605
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: house and mister Whippi come past. I'd weighed mister Wibi

606
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: down and like he'd be just looking at me, and

607
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: I had the title bikinis will be driving past front

608
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: of the house and I'll be just out the front

609
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: and dressed.

610
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: And I thought it was hysterical. I still laugh him,

611
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: encouraged him.

612
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: I imagine that they would have stretched a lot of

613
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: your clothes back in the day then as well do

614
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: they do they bring a lot of their mates around

615
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: to the house.

616
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was house was full. Yeah who was I

617
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: was coaching at the time up there when the waters

618
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: were growing up and there was all the footballers at

619
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: the house after the game. Yeah, drinking Johnson sleep the.

620
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: Night because when you was it you when you were

621
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: coaching gays and I believe you're your under twenties team

622
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: or your a grade that's not going to see they

623
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: stole you and took you to mad Monday and the

624
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: Gold Coast Is that right?

625
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: They abducted you, not the Gold Coast, Cassildill Bay. Yeah,

626
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: I was walking over the papers and the milk. The

627
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: bus pulls up and they said get in. I said,

628
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: where's yelled? They said, we're going for a drink, so

629
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: I said, oh, well, why not?

630
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: And then they took care all the way to there,

631
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: all right, Garl.

632
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: About seven o'clock that night, I said, oh, by your loves,

633
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: where the hell are you?

634
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: Or?

635
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: I said, cafil Bay at the pub?

636
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Did he disappear much gal?

637
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: Yep?

638
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: Another night? Another time it was pay day when they

639
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: used to go and or get their pay from the year,

640
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: and guy said, I promise, I'm undergoing. I have to

641
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: get the money. I'll be back. Okay, we might take

642
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: the kids for a picnic or something. Okay, anyhow, never

643
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: come home. And then the next thing I got a

644
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 3: phone call from the hospital and they said, has fallen

645
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: out of the car and he's up at the hospital.

646
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: We're getting all this metal out of his bottom. And

647
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, we'll just keep him up there.

648
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: How did you fall out of a car?

649
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: What does it?

650
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 4: Don't remember what happened, but all I remember someone said

651
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: to Norm Venderson who under There was Norm driving Kenny

652
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: Morris in the middle and I'm on the outside. It

653
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 4: was a single So to you, we're going down Aberdey

654
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: Road with bird drinking. She's like o'clock in the morning.

655
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: It was about nine o'clock at night and they spent

656
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: the door flew out and I thought grabb bushby, but

657
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: I fell out. My asked to hit the road and

658
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: they reckon. I read that old see Nobby's booch. So

659
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: the next day normal, Normal was working for Lifeguard Tires

660
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: and apparently this blake would be driving behind us and

661
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: he said, he Normal, something fell out at the back

662
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: of your youth last night. He said, no, that was John. Yeah,

663
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: I was a mess. You got no idea. I had

664
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: no skin on my head. It's tore me trousers off,

665
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: just shredded. The skin was off her eyes.

666
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: Just stop you drinking for a while.

667
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: Not till about Wednesday, I think games again.

668
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Dad get on the sauce. And Mom would say, now listen,

669
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: when he comes home, I'm going to lock the house. Mate.

670
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: You don't let him in the house. Right, he's going

671
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: to bang on the door. He's going to he'll try everything. Right,

672
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: next minute we're here, poomp boom.

673
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 6: Boom, kayle don't do Gail, Matthew, I'm going don't Matthew.

674
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: We went on anyway, I did just sleeping at the front.

675
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: Mind you do that to learn his lesson?

676
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you've been drunk and stupid, and with the

677
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: bed your.

678
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Bed weather as well.

679
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: Were you up a couple of times?

680
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: Is that?

681
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Is that stop now as well?

682
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: One day at the caravan park, we're playing cards. It

683
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: was a wet day, so all the blakes got together.

684
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 4: We're playing cards, and I think I drank forward in

685
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: large bottles, but I was pretty pissed. I went to

686
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: sleep on the bed. Used to.

687
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: You.

688
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, I woke up and I went, oh my god,

689
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: I was floating. But I didn't do it once or

690
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: twice in one night. The next day dragged pulled all

691
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: the shirts off of water with all the dinner, dragged

692
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: the mattress. What do you doing that first? She said,

693
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: I'm putting it out the drawing, will never sleep with it.

694
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: So everyone was coming past as kids went to bed guard.

695
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: Now Gary did.

696
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: With with mining up there, coops and Jack. There was

697
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: just an enormous drinking culture. And you know we went

698
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: sort of through the family by Hervey, uncle uncle Hervey, hurting.

699
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: The peers and herby Pearce and waded legs.

700
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: You know.

701
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: One one one day they used to drink. They used

702
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: to go to Foster. All the miners and says stock

703
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: Curry ever mine Western. They'd all going to Foster holidays.

704
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: So the culture was two o'clock they'd head down the pub.

705
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: They'd all come home forty seven. So they had five

706
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: hours of solid drinking. I'm talking about drinking six half

707
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: of doz of skewters an hour, you know, which is a.

708
00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: One day.

709
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: Herb be drunk fifty four schooners went.

710
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: He went down there at two o'clock, and there was

711
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: a dance on that night, so I forgured his wife's name. Anyway,

712
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: said all the other boys left about five because they

713
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: were come back to dance. And Herbie said, now I'll say,

714
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: just at such and such as wife, get dressed and

715
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: come down, we'll go to the dance. So behind the bar,

716
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: the barman every day used to mark every schooner Herbie had.

717
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 4: He had fifty four for the day.

718
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: And then went to the dance, to the dance. And

719
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: now did he danced imas you would have been hard

720
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: to hold up.

721
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: Probably didn't dance you get hold his rock.

722
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: Honestly, you wouldn't have to think.

723
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Out the drink, because isn't there a story of how

724
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: he drank the like a couple of blokes in it.

725
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: Because he was renowned for how many schooners you could

726
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: drink up and that way.

727
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: The bloke put a challenge up to him. He was

728
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: a timber cutter from a career and he heard about

729
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: Herbie's reputation as a drinker. So he come up there

730
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: to Foster waited for her. If you come in, and

731
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: he said, I've got a challenge for you. Might I

732
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: heard you can drink, you know? He said, I bet

733
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: you can't drink ten schooners in an hour. Herbie said, well,

734
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 4: I'm not going to try an aw because I'll go

735
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: in here all day. He said, but I'll I'll come

736
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: back tomorrow. You be tomorrow will try it. So the

737
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: boys used to go out too, So Herbie left the

738
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: ten utmast olve and hiss cover past there. He said that, man,

739
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 4: I'm going a bit early today, he says, so, oh jeez,

740
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going early, he said. Now I've got a

741
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: couple of things to do. So setting out the hour

742
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: sil he went to the pub.

743
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: So he drank.

744
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 4: He drank the ten schooners of an hour, just to

745
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: test himself. And he went up and he said, right,

746
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 4: I said the blake right, I'll take the.

747
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: Challenge, and then it knocked it out.

748
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: The next hour he done another ten.

749
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: So he went to the pub first, all just to

750
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: see if you can do it.

751
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what an unbelievable What's what's the most? Because girl

752
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: used to poor schooners at the pub as well. Right,

753
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: did you ever have to pall schooners four guys?

754
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

755
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: He come in and were you giving him free schooners?

756
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: No?

757
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: No, you're always challenging him. What's the most amount of

758
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: schooners you reckon? You ever had at a pub?

759
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: When I turned twenty one, I had twenty one schooners?

760
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: Oh well, I hardly ever used to drink that. I

761
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: was a mess. I was a mess when you drink

762
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: that that particular day.

763
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he actually borrowed someone's motibike, new motibike and

764
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: fell off it fell onto a car.

765
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: Because you were renowned as well. I remember all the

766
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: stories that Dad would tell us growing up, and you

767
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: would tell us from time to time about you were.

768
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: You were a local enforcer around town up in c I.

769
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: Don't know about that. A couple of times there was

770
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of blokes that wouldn't show

771
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: to respect to the older people.

772
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: I remember when we when we had lunch up there

773
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: with Bog, one of my friends. When we went up

774
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: with the Hunt of Valley with your mate Sternie, it

775
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: looked after us up the Hunt of Valley with the

776
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: bus charter. You were telling him a story about how

777
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: your old trick was if somebody was disrespectful, you'd go

778
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: and wait in the toilets, and not in like a

779
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: romantic way. You'd go in there and then when they come,

780
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: that's where you give him a bit of a bit

781
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: of a stern talking to that right.

782
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 4: Well, it happened once at Pruden's. I had a good

783
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: arm mate, Tidler Milligan, and I used to work in

784
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 4: the mines for him. He always wore a pork boy

785
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: hat felt poor. They aws dressed them backly, never ever

786
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: got married and lived on his own. Anyway, this bloke

787
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: kept knocking his hand off, this young bloke, pick it up,

788
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: give him back to Tidler, and I said, mate, cut

789
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: it out, leave him blame. And he kept doing it

790
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: so so so I'll fix you. So I went out

791
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: the toilet. I knew he'd have to have blurk shortly.

792
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: So I just went and sat on the pen and

793
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: left the door open a little bit wait for him

794
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 4: to come in. And then he comes.

795
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, when said because the bloke. The bloke ended

796
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: up telling some of my mates, mate, this is what happened,

797
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, and he said when I walked into toilet,

798
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: he said, Gary just came out of toilet and goes.

799
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: Surprise because remember remember when we were we us. He

800
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: went to the the Aussie not long ago, the pub

801
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: up there, one of the pubs, and there was a

802
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: bloke who came over and said, good ay, and I

803
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: you introduced me to him and he said, oh that

804
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: used to be that used to be Matt's under under

805
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: tens coach.

806
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: Oh Matt Barber.

807
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

808
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: And then there was apparently there was a bit of

809
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: a time when he gave Mattias spray and under tens

810
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: and you give him a little bit of a job.

811
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: Yea, he told he said the Gazz, your son's a

812
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: big head, so Gaz. The next morning, I remember getting

813
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: to the game and I'm looking at maps, got like

814
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: an eye that was shut and and and he was like,

815
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't look at me and the assistant coach is going,

816
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: oh you are right. He goes, yeah, I shouldn't have

817
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: said it, you know, you fucking shouldn't have said it, right,

818
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: And I'm going, what's going on here? And then someone said, yeah,

819
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: you roll me and beat up the coach. We're at

820
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: the time of the guy Joey played hooker for a

821
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: while one yeah played hooker anyway. This opposition coach told

822
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: his play out, when you're packing this crump, just kick

823
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Johns as hard as you can every time in

824
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: the shins.

825
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 4: I run into Andrew kicked you back. Yeah, yeah, And

826
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 4: I chipped him and I said, what do you doing

827
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: that for? That's not that's not you don't do that

828
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: your age anyway, And he said, oh, you said the

829
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: other bloke was kicking me. I found out that the

830
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: coach told him on a purpose, and I'll fix this again.

831
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: What do you go and kick him in the shin?

832
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah.

833
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: Some of the stuff, mate, you remember, Like I look

834
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: at them now, it's almost like sitcom stuff. Does everyone

835
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: up at the caravan now street everyone was like big drink.

836
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Its quite raucous, and all of a sudden, he's born

837
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: again Christians moved into the band next to us, remember that,

838
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: and that, like I'm talking hardcore Christians, that alcohol was

839
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: the Devil's thing. Mate, rock and roll music is like Satan's.

840
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: If you miss some rock and roll music, it will

841
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: ruin your mind. Leaning up in the Hell's.

842
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: Cooper, she remember we're watching Ray and she chipped me

843
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: about the kids watching that. She said, Dan, let that

844
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: into your house. She letting the devil in.

845
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: Well, he used to dress up like the devil, didn't

846
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: you remember? Once we got there once and we got

847
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: quite belligerent. She had chipped us about something. You know,

848
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: you don't listen to that music, and I fixed her.

849
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: So I went and got the ghetto blaster and put

850
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: JOJ Kale's cocaine on.

851
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: What about We had a party there one night and

852
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: Sludge was telling jokes and they packed up the next

853
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: day and they never come back. Yeah, because I was thinking,

854
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: oh no, I was just going to be filthy about this.

855
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: But we went Remember when we went to we went

856
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: to but Eye Barn or something, Yeah, and they had

857
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: extraps tattoo on and they played cocaine. She went and

858
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: got the bus and they said, come on, everyone's got

859
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: to lead because they want to go home. She said,

860
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 3: that's wrong.

861
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: That music got to get we're all dancing a time

862
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: sitting on the bush.

863
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: What about because being the parents of NRL players can

864
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: be tough. What about but when you ride the highs

865
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: like the ninety seven Grand Final was that? How did

866
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: you guys celebrate that as the parents? Were you back

867
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: at the least club with these guys or yeah.

868
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: We stayed at your mum and dads.

869
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was a day. That was a daytime

870
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: go that's right at the Sydney Foom.

871
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 3: So we got pretty yeah, oh well, it's unbelievable. We didn't.

872
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: We just thought we'll go back to the club and

873
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: meet everybody. When we got back there, we couldn't.

874
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: Get in hundred and undred thousand.

875
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: So they couldn't let us in. We got to the

876
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: door and they just said we can't open the doors,

877
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: can't let you in. So we'll stand with chiefs Mum

878
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: and dad, Harold and Judy, and then Harold said there's

879
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 3: people going in. They must be going into the kitchen.

880
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: Come on, let's follow them. So we did. We follow

881
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 3: them in and that's how we got into the function.

882
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: It was remember our bus went into people climbing the

883
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: sycamore trees, jumping on the bus and trying to kick

884
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: their way in. The whole city was in this frenzy.

885
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: Was even driving back. You know, we just couldn't believe

886
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: all the people on the side of the road, all

887
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: the overpasses, the roundabouts, people were having barbecues and that

888
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: on the roundabouts.

889
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: Did you drink for like, did you party as hard

890
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: as these boys did five days? You went for five days.

891
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: It didn't work for five days.

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Because remember because at the time, you don't like, the

893
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: birch Pa shut down and all the all the mines

894
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: were on strike, Dad, you mean the picket lines. Yeah,

895
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: and our bus driver used to buy them, the bus

896
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: driver when he was trying to bring the scabs in.

897
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So what happened The miners were on strike

898
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: and they bought the scabs in. We fared out later

899
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: they gus from the army, which they probably didn't want

900
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: to do it, but they bought them because they could

901
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 4: drive masoonery. So anyway, I was on the picket line

902
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: and a good made of mine who's not with Mcryan.

903
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 4: It was part of reasonable But I love the fight.

904
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 4: I loved the anyway, what happened. The scabs are on

905
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: the bus and the bus pulls up, so Mick opens

906
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: the door with you thro all the luggage, so the

907
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: bus couldn't get through the gate. So the driver gets

908
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: off and said that mcdad did that again, put the

909
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: door big jumped on the bus and locked the door

910
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 4: so the driver couldn't get back in. So he's in

911
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: there with the scabs and there's about fifty of them

912
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: in there, and he's sallow. What he thinks of him?

913
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: Braves th oversea and they never said a word. Blake's

914
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: never said a word. But anyway, he was in there

915
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 4: half an hour. There's you get half an hour anyway

916
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: if you fish up, open the door, let the driver on.

917
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: Remember, wasn't the driver our bus driver with the knights

918
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: was at another another time you jumped on the bus

919
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: and was getting to job him And he says, oh, no, Gary,

920
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: it was.

921
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't remember.

922
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: I pleased the fifth wasn't there. I remember just telling

923
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: me a stro when I was out there not long

924
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: ago about you must have been doing some work out

925
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: of mine or maybe a steel factory when you're about

926
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: ninety Yeah, and you yeah, we.

927
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 4: Were first married, we had no money. So I got

928
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: off from the job. I was working for McAuley Brothers,

929
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: a curry and they build them had a special smellder

930
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 4: up at Barriber and I got an opportunity to go

931
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: up there work and I had to sign a contract

932
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: to go and I had to say nine months the

933
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: last or three weeks and I come home guard. I said,

934
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: where can you come home? Because it was really good money.

935
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: We're working seven days a week, four hours a day,

936
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: and everything I was getting I was sending it home

937
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 4: to guild in the bank and yeah. So guy said,

938
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 4: what are you doing home? And I said, I missed it.

939
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't tell them that I had blue with the boss.

940
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 4: The boss was a rural arrogant bars or let it

941
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: get it, and he used to chip you all the time,

942
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: you know, don't do that, don't do this, do that,

943
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: you know, and I know what I'm doing, mate, No

944
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: You're not do it my way and all this sort

945
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: of stuff. So I had enough of just so the

946
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: doctors over it and he said, well you can go home.

947
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: I didn't lose my job to take cross, but anyway

948
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: sent me.

949
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: So we had to live with MM longer because.

950
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 4: Years years later, years later girl was working one Friday

951
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: night and I used to take the boys over to

952
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: the Trots and he wouldn't believe it. He is this

953
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: blog at the Trots. He comes over, what's the shape

954
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 4: the head to say, hello, I just go away, baite,

955
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: I don't to talk.

956
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: It's lucky, lucky you did, I mean, yeah, yeah, well.

957
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: What happened there? Years later, I'll watch what are they cool?

958
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 4: At Church six six thirty on Sunday night, A Current Affairs,

959
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: Current Affairs. There was a stayer in there about they

960
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 4: have one in West Australia and they couldn't get anyone

961
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: to work, so they hired Aboriginal people and after a

962
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: couple of years kids were born with short, little short

963
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: arms with hands from the call, like the little mine babies.

964
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, right yeah, And they found these deformities in

965
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: so the government just shut on down and straight away.

966
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: And what they did sixty minutes when this factory where

967
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: they were milling asbestos and they had a past scrape

968
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: and they run across the girders like that. It was

969
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: just like tar picking it up. That's what was getting

970
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: in the lungs. It was killed people. Yeah, so it

971
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: was very dangerous, yeah, very dangerous.

972
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, did going back for a second to being the

973
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: parents of NRL players and even the grandparents of Jack

974
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: and I, which I imagine would have a couple of

975
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: lot of shit for. But did did you have any

976
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: incidents with people in the in the stadiums or people

977
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: sort of putting ship on the boys when you were

978
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: growing up?

979
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: Growing up?

980
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean you had a stink after full time? Yeah

981
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: st George, Yeah, yeah, he was a corporate box. So

982
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: right after they grabbed him, yeah.

983
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: Seeking about about boys beand girls girls not carrying on.

984
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: And then Matt come out and Gaz was yelling out

985
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: back at him, and Matt come out and he jumped

986
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: up into the box. And after that, Gary and I

987
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: always had an escort to our car. I don't know

988
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: if it was an escort the security, so I don't

989
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: know if it was to make sure we didn't create problems,

990
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: didn't come here.

991
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: What about what about that blog from Nelson's bay he

992
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: used to play front row against. Yep, he's dead there.

993
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: I think he died drug overdose. I think anyway, he's

994
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: causing trouble up in the in the in the in

995
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: the club after the game, So all the parents and

996
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: girlfriend and mates, and that used to see it at

997
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: the back of the bar. The players had come out

998
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 4: of the shed with it all over, drink together before

999
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 4: we went home. So this particular blake is kicked out

1000
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: because he's playing up, so he comes down. He decides

1001
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: to cause a bit of trouble. So it's zero Australia,

1002
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: little boo. He starts say, mate, he said, your two

1003
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: boys saw rooting each other and all this sort of

1004
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: stuff and called them names and girls and all that

1005
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: sort of stuff. And I said, I've had enough of this,

1006
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: so I've got in by the throat and I read

1007
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: him up against the brick wall, and I'm trying to

1008
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: punch you, but riving McCormack's got out of you by

1009
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: the expert that threshes flew in your mum, she got

1010
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: two figures up his pushing over his nose. Call him

1011
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: all sorts of basards, because.

1012
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: Look we the John's families had some different different fights

1013
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: in their time. But Trish, Trish hates in a whole

1014
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: different way. Did you did you guys get electrician initially?

1015
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: Did you have any good interactions with her?

1016
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1017
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: Did you make it good? Because she can she can

1018
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: get quite fiery aggressive.

1019
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: The time she blew up with me one night, called

1020
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 4: me a lot of educated idiot, which of course is true,

1021
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: educated idiot.

1022
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: The first time.

1023
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a fairly jack. Actually, the first

1024
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 4: time I brought trisho.

1025
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we were was going to work and he

1026
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: was having lunch and he went, hey, girl, Matt's you.

1027
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: He's got a sheller with him.

1028
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: He never bought a girl there before.

1029
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: Joey stay over that time time. So NaN's out, Mom

1030
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: and Dad and Nan and Joey and Kate. Kate was

1031
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: like me and Kate were always really really tight.

1032
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: He used to go and get the cuddle every morning.

1033
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: Because Kate's quite quite younger, she's ten years young.

1034
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: So there's a so so she come in in the

1035
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: mornings Saturday morning and she jump jump in and cuddle

1036
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: me and wake me up. So this sular night, I

1037
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: had a girl next to me in bed and I'm

1038
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: laying there. Next minute I fell jump over and I've gone,

1039
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: oh fuck it. So she jumps over and she and

1040
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: then she's.

1041
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: Looking and then she come out to me and said,

1042
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: there's a girl in there with Matt. It's Peaky's girlfriend.

1043
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: Matt port her home because Peaky left her out and

1044
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: I went, all right, yeah, and so I just thought

1045
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: I'd better tell you. So when I said, Matt, get

1046
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: that girl up, get her out of there, or she

1047
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: walked out, was like the walk of shame. We're all

1048
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: sitting there, did.

1049
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: Like was there a rule of the boys can bring

1050
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: girls home back in the day?

1051
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: Like what was that was the first I would have

1052
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: got tested?

1053
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: And they had double bunks.

1054
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: He's on the top bunk.

1055
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: Okay, just quick. Some of the blokes over the years,

1056
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: right some of it. Because one of the things I

1057
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: do remember as a kid is like new blokes all

1058
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: playing practical jokes on each other. And there was a

1059
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: bloke I think you just passed gray paint ye because

1060
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: I remember you tell.

1061
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: Them about night. We had everyone around and next in

1062
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: the fireber came smash the door, smashed the door in,

1063
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 3: and they were going to find us because they said

1064
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: they could have been could have been a fire and

1065
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: they're at our place and someone had rung and said

1066
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: there was a fire at our place. And then all

1067
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 3: the boys said it was painy, so gaz rips into

1068
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: paining and then he left. But we never turned out.

1069
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: They didn't find us but we had to get a

1070
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: new door.

1071
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: For There was just always shenanigans. Yeah, up with the

1072
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: caravan part at home. As you said, there was always

1073
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: like you know, always players like you know, we're Dad coaching.

1074
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: There was just always blokes around like Panda Barry Andrews

1075
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: For people that don't know, he was a legend at Cronulla.

1076
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: Then he you at the Roosters and then broke his

1077
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: arm and just went, you know, and decided to come

1078
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: to set up and play ragular League and Dad coached him.

1079
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: But he and Dad were best mates. So Panda just

1080
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: get blind and then turn up at harm. I remember

1081
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: that time one of the boys, one of the centers, Pender, said, mate,

1082
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: what do you keep fucking dropping the ball? When I

1083
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: kept firing because a gun player? And the Santa goes, mate,

1084
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: you passed, You passed the ball too hard? He goes

1085
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: fucking passed the bat? Oh yeah right, So he loves

1086
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: the Pube comes straight over to our place and he

1087
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: gets me and Joey and it's right in front.

1088
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: Of like right out of bed. He got him out

1089
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: of bed and stood him in front of this glass

1090
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: door and thrown balls at him.

1091
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: At full blast like you know from the other side

1092
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: of the room. Just mate, right over, right out of

1093
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: the ball as hard as you can't. He just fire

1094
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: it and bang. Is that too hard? No fucking yeah,

1095
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: no worries. And he goes back to the part and says, mate,

1096
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: those two little idiots they can catch.

1097
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: Who was the How the bloke used to come around

1098
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: play the boys Nintendo all the time?

1099
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: Terry Great, Terry Reagan.

1100
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 4: You ever heard Terry Reagan sty No, I haven't went.

1101
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: He went. He left us in eighty two, went to

1102
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 4: the Roosters first, and.

1103
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: He went Roosters, and he went Balmint Tigers, and then

1104
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: finished at the Candle played in the eighty seven Grand

1105
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: Final against But mate, you don't at those clubs. Everyone's

1106
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: got Terry Reagan's stories. He was fucking crazy, so they

1107
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: there was once Laurie Daily loves to tell this story.

1108
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: He said, rego, we train on a Friday night. If

1109
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: we're playing on the Sunday, which is just about always,

1110
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: he said, rego go to the pub. And he'd have

1111
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: about fourteen schooners and hop in his car and drive home.

1112
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: So he said, mate. And he had a lawnmown business,

1113
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: so he said, mate, this particular night I've trained, go on,

1114
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: slam slamm the schooners and and he's dry driving home

1115
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's an RB two just

1116
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: up the road. What am I going to do? So

1117
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: he pulls, He pulls the his car over the side

1118
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: of the road, pulls that, pulls out the mower and

1119
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: the whippersip and everything. Anyway, he just starts mowing some

1120
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: bloke's lawn out the front right. This bloke comes out

1121
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: and goes, mate, what are you doing? And he goes, oh, mate,

1122
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: there's an RB two up the road. Mate, I've just

1123
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: jumping up here. May if you let me do this, mate,

1124
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: I'll know your lawn for free. He goes, you're too

1125
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: an't He goes, yeah, it's right mate. He goes on,

1126
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: detective sergeant, when you finish, go out the back about

1127
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: the back.

1128
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 2: To Did he let him? Didn't get in trouble?

1129
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: No, no, let him? But made some of the things.

1130
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: He lived with us for a while, didn't he?

1131
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: Yes.

1132
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 4: He rings him up every now and then. He's very

1133
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: passionate about rugby league, Oh, very very passionate. And he's

1134
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: always got a wins about someone, you know, some club

1135
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: or something. But he's good. He's good. We got invited

1136
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: to his wedding. He got he married Colige Gavilot Horsetralia.

1137
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: From from uh some of the other stuff, remember like

1138
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: you said you found a bag of pot and things

1139
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: like that in the house because he was a standover

1140
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: man for the Tromboli's notorious crime crime gang down in

1141
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: Griffith and he was a standover man there. So he

1142
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: caught wind of him and then he came up and

1143
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: played for cessnot some characters in their sides.

1144
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: He left in eighty two. Jimmy Walsh come from Gloucester

1145
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 4: in eighty three, didn't he. So Jimmy took over Willie

1146
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 4: uh Terry Reagan's flat. So before Rugo left, he pushed

1147
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: the better side and shot on the carpet. Then he

1148
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 4: pulled the bed back, so Jimmy and Vickie moved into

1149
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 4: the unit. Vicky used to say to Christious smelling that user,

1150
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is anywhere. One day she

1151
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 4: got our now to look under the bed. It is

1152
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: his bloody big tur.

1153
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Just on a serious turn here a little bit like so, Dad,

1154
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: you were the best junior coming through at Curry Curry

1155
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: and Curry Carry has produced most rugby league nationals of

1156
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: any town city in Australia's produced that many. It's unbelievable.

1157
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: Sixteen I think.

1158
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, your next door neighbor was Johnny Sadler. He's not

1159
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: used to live over the over the back, over the back. Yeah,

1160
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: Johnny Sadler and Garry Salov and Billy Hamilton, all those

1161
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: players incredible players. But mate, when and Dad met, Dad

1162
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: went to cessnot because Curry. Curry signed Johnny Raper, didn't they. Yeah,

1163
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: so the great, the immortal Johnny he went to Curry.

1164
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: So Dad went to sesnot when he was young. But

1165
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, mate, when cesnot played Curry, you

1166
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: can go to all heavy derbies all around the world,

1167
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, Liverpool, Evert and everything. Nothing would have been

1168
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: more violent in the crowd and the.

1169
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: Games and that ten flights on the on the hill

1170
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: like a whole I.

1171
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: Mean sometimes just to bring in the right squad. To

1172
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: remember that time at cesnot the whole hill was just

1173
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: it was just like a right like a ball.

1174
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: In book broad Is it still like that still?

1175
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: So you get the crowd as they used to get.

1176
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: I remember being a kid, it was terrifying.

1177
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 4: I went to stock in seventy three. The year after

1178
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 4: they won the premiership with seventy two and they matched Systo.

1179
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 4: Maitland played in the Grand final seventy so they opened

1180
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 4: the season at Synock. So Sesnock played Maitland and it

1181
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 4: was the football ground was an noble because they used

1182
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 4: to play cricket there in the summer. There was that

1183
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 4: many people there that they had to get the kids

1184
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 4: and put a between the sideline and the fence so

1185
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: the kids could see. We couldn't run on the ground,

1186
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 4: we had to walk and step over the kids singing

1187
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 4: on the playing fields. There was that many people well,

1188
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: and I remember I think it was about twenty cents

1189
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: to get in for an adult, nothing for kids. And

1190
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: I heard someone say after the game, the Donnie Scayfield,

1191
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 4: So what was the gate takers today? He said, I

1192
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: think it was five thousand dollars that's how many people.

1193
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: In.

1194
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: Yeah? Is that?

1195
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Gal?

1196
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: Did you did you hate watching Gary play because that's

1197
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: from a different era, that's as violent as a sport gets.

1198
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: No, I didn't worry me.

1199
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: I hate.

1200
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: I worried me more watching the boys play.

1201
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you that who what did like?

1202
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: You had your partner. You got this got your sons, but.

1203
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: Look back on But it would be when we go

1204
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: to Curry and Place versus Curry. I'm telling you now, mate,

1205
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: they like the crowd would find me and Joey when

1206
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: we're young. Boys may may be full going adults punts

1207
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: the shit out of us. You know. I go you mum,

1208
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: and sometimes women when I see him, boys spat on me.

1209
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: One day, Like the level of rivalry between those two

1210
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: towns was just insane.

1211
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 3: Well there was even people would get up like seven

1212
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, go down to the ground and

1213
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: park trucks, tabletop trucks outside so they could stand on

1214
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: the trucks because they knew would get in wat fence.

1215
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. And Dad's the size of the dad coach.

1216
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: They'd start the season all the time, play one of

1217
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: the big Sydney sides. So one year Balmain blocker Roach

1218
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: still says, he goes, mate, I'll never forget we played

1219
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: your dad's side. He said. I was a young bloke

1220
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: and I'm up against a blow called Willy Tarry. Willy

1221
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: Terry is a North Coenslander. The dad signed to come

1222
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: down and he said blockers standing there, fucking blocker can fight,

1223
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: and Blocker went, I'm going to teach you a lesson today,

1224
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: old man. And he said, Willy Tarry as about to packet,

1225
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: helped me off and just went bang. He said, Maddie

1226
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: hit me that hard, he said, I literally ship my

1227
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: pants said he hit me bal main beats. That's not

1228
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: that ninth to thirteen nine. Then the next year they

1229
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: played new Town. Newtown that year made the Grand Final

1230
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: and I think Newtown but you're six to two or something,

1231
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: so made it was. It was top class football, but

1232
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: violent beyond earth.

1233
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, very violent. I remember when I first started to

1234
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 4: play a grade. All the old blokes used to say,

1235
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 4: you've got to get your arm up, as I used

1236
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: to get knocked out a fair bit. So you're run

1237
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: into the ruck with the ball and then you have

1238
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: arm cocked up. Well, I don't say you wouldn't cop

1239
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 4: a stiff up said like, it wasn't a pedally that

1240
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 4: they knock out.

1241
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: How do you see the modern game now, then, because

1242
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: you've lived through basically three or four different generations of

1243
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: rugby league, I don't like it. You don't like them

1244
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: modern game?

1245
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 4: No, they don't like it at all there's no contest

1246
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: anymore for the ball, so that they can't kick the

1247
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 4: ball in the ruck. The scrums are a waste of time,

1248
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 4: but may as well just have a bunny scratch between

1249
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 4: two blokes, get to have they reads together and try

1250
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: the ball in the middle so you can rake back

1251
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: the first. But it's just I don't think it's tough,

1252
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but uh there's a big there's

1253
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 4: a big gap between eight and the bottom tobes. You

1254
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 4: can only pick the top eight every year. Just who

1255
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: they buy and what they've got. It's the same as

1256
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 4: the women's game. The women's go, you'll forget about it

1257
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: now it's going to be Roasters and Brisbane now they

1258
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 4: let just your southwill gather Risband. I don't know why

1259
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: Newcastle that we're going to have to level that out.

1260
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: It's too unfair. Again, just to finish, we'll say this

1261
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: like when we talk about you know, the different eras,

1262
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: to let people know this is going to sound. When

1263
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: you first started playing at Cessnock, you bake the day

1264
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: of the game. You used to meet at the pub,

1265
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: is that right? And have a few students they did.

1266
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: Col and Gordon Bradley, the twin boys. They grew up

1267
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: with the Marion Curry. They used to go out and

1268
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: I went with and they'd have four minutes before they.

1269
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 4: Played the day of the game. The day of the game,

1270
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 4: and Cole said me, one day, you come down the pub, Gas,

1271
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 4: I said, what for? You said, I have a beer?

1272
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 4: I said, no, I'm not here before I play. I

1273
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: wouldn't have one the night before.

1274
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't. You didn't do that.

1275
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 4: No, I couldn't have played. But the old days, when

1276
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 4: I first started playing grade, they used to drink wine.

1277
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 4: They have sherry in the shed or musket and all

1278
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: the Fords used to share a bottle around and they

1279
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 4: knocked the bottle off between the sixers. What yeah, what?

1280
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: What was the theory behind that?

1281
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: Why?

1282
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: Wine is that?

1283
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 4: So? You used to make clear clear your lungs, say

1284
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: you can breathe it?

1285
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: And what about the coal mines games? Just quickly, you know,

1286
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: working down there you took I remember Gas used to

1287
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: say to me, what do you want to do your life?

1288
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: I'll be a coal miner, he said, I'll fix you.

1289
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: You took me down there and went fucking hell the

1290
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: place she used to drink down there, down the mines.

1291
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: No, not down the mines, but they used to drink

1292
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: before when I was working afternoon shift. A lot of blokes.

1293
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 4: She used to play golf of a Friday, so then

1294
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: they'd have half of us as skewness. And it wasn't

1295
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 4: the place to go half half pissed too, because you

1296
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 4: had to be aware of what was going on around

1297
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 4: you all the time. A lot of the tragedy. Yeah,

1298
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 4: if I got time to tell them about the shaft

1299
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 4: we got caught in the shaft. Yeah, this story. What

1300
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 4: happened was a Friday night. We were working swing shifts,

1301
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 4: so we started at sixth night finished at two in

1302
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: the morning, but we used to work right through the

1303
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: Saturday and doing double shift. So this night we're all

1304
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 4: prepared for the double shift. Anyway, been raining about forty

1305
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,479
Speaker 4: eight hours, and we had three big dams at the mine,

1306
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: which just used to pump the war out of the

1307
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 4: dams and up the top that had filled it down

1308
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 4: to the second one filled it own a third and

1309
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 4: then they'd pumped back down the pit and we'd use

1310
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 4: it again to clear all the dust used to hose

1311
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 4: it down and all that sort of stuff. So we

1312
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 4: used a lot of water anyway, what happened. The top

1313
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 4: then burst and all the water from the three dams

1314
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: come down the hill and where we used to get

1315
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 4: in the sharer in the in the cage to go

1316
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: down the mine, which was eighteen hundred feet the water

1317
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 4: was the lowest point on the property. So the water

1318
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 4: was just going down on a big drain. So the

1319
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 4: pit flooded and worried boy and we were sort of

1320
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 4: about one hundred meters higher than where the shaft stopped

1321
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 4: at the bottom. So we got word we had to evacuate,

1322
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: and that was everybody. So we got we got the

1323
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 4: pit bottom. By that stage the water was up to

1324
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 4: our waists. The cage was waiting for us, and the

1325
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 4: manager was there. The other manager was there, the black

1326
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 4: charge everybody that day. He was there and he had

1327
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 4: a sheet of paper cool at your name jumping. He

1328
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 4: made sure that Lydd never left anyone behind. So we

1329
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 4: organed in. The shaft was overloaded because when only holed

1330
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 4: about maybe thirty thirty people, so I remember correctly, and

1331
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 4: we probably had twice as many blokes. And so they

1332
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 4: said right over and shut the gates, let's go. So

1333
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 4: they rang up, they rang the bills three times that

1334
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 4: mony the winds driver could hit the three bills, so

1335
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 4: we're right to go. Clear. We started going up. We

1336
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 4: got up nine hundred feet in the power and off

1337
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: the wind shouse got plooted and we're suspended in the air,

1338
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 4: and I think we're in there nine hours. Anyway, what

1339
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 4: happened They finished up, They lowered a walk he talked,

1340
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 4: He down on a y rope down to us and

1341
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: the under managed charge. He got on the and they said,

1342
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: what's happened is the water's gone over the transformer and

1343
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 4: it's flooded. We've run the energy company to come out,

1344
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 4: bring a transformer out. We're going to try and get

1345
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 4: this out. We're going to hook the new transform up

1346
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 4: and we'll start and we'll winches out. So they took hours,

1347
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: and anyway, I didn't we're there for no one anyway.

1348
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 4: So anyway, they hooked the power up and they loaded

1349
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 4: the thing back down again. They said, right, everyone braced themselves,

1350
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 4: were right to go. So they turned the power on

1351
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 4: and the brakes wouldn't work, and we started to go.

1352
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 4: We dropped about one hundred foot and they slammed the

1353
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 4: emergency brakes on and we're bombed up and there like that,

1354
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 4: and it was that scary. If the rope will broke,

1355
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: we're all dead. Anyway, they loaded it down and they

1356
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 4: said we're gonna We're got to get another one. So

1357
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 4: they had to bring another. They didn't have enough power

1358
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 4: in that generator to pull us all out. It was

1359
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 4: too heavy, the case was too heavy. So they hooked

1360
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 4: another one up. The speaking down again and they said, right,

1361
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: we're going to try again. So sure enough we got up,

1362
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 4: but we're only creeping like that. The whole thing was vibrating.

1363
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 4: Blokes were crying like when we got out, blokes actually

1364
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: come back to work. It was that scary.

1365
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: Did you go back?

1366
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? I did? But anyway, pretty emotional stuff. This. So

1367
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 4: when we got to the surface, they have these steel

1368
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 4: foot They lift the cage up above the level of

1369
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 4: the ground. These steel fruit come out and they set

1370
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: the cage on it and then they opened the gates

1371
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 4: and let you out. So what happened on the gate

1372
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: side we would get out, those foot didn't come out.

1373
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 4: There's something wrong. The the back ones come out and

1374
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 4: they sat the cage down and the weight come off

1375
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 4: the rope and we tipped like that, tip sideways and

1376
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 4: it sjammed, so we couldn't get the gates up. We

1377
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 4: couldn't get the men out, and blacks were screaming, yelling,

1378
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 4: and they said staying, don't try and get out, staying

1379
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 4: to stay in the cage. So they got everybody. They

1380
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 4: dragged blacks back off trying to climb over the over

1381
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 4: the gate, dragged blacks back in and they'd lifted it

1382
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 4: up and they got a hammer and they built it

1383
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: into the stool foot because they finished something. They come

1384
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 4: in and sat the cage out the gates. So we

1385
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: all got out. So the mine manager was there, the

1386
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 4: police were there, the fire we gave resume mine's rescue

1387
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 4: were there. Everyone the hundreds of boot will support this stuff.

1388
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: And that was it. But anybody they run home, didn't they?

1389
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 4: They rang all the bloke's parents informed of what was

1390
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: going on and tolerbant. Circumstance was very emotionally.

1391
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember you wake something and I didn't you.

1392
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: You said it's looking pretty bad. Dad's going yeah, yeah,

1393
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: well i'll tell you what after that. I think we

1394
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: need a drink.

1395
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 4: Guess I had to drink.

1396
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: Give Uncle Herbie a call.

1397
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, thanks for coming on. We've been wanting to

1398
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: get you on for ages.

1399
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 4: Very good.

1400
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: We could get, we could we could get you could

1401
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: talk tell stories for hours later on three part four,

1402
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: we'll see how long we're all kicking.

1403
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: I had another one four years, but we don't have time.

1404
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: Quick one. We got a quick one.

1405
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, go on, go on, let's kick it, just quick one.

1406
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: Don't worry about Jack.

1407
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: When I was when I was a junior Curry. When

1408
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 4: I was a junior Curry, we used to play. They

1409
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 4: used to They never had Bendy plays for the team.

1410
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 4: They're lucky to get us a third grade side, and

1411
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 4: they'd be all short for the reserve grade, so they

1412
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: used to bring unders up. We were allowed to play

1413
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 4: five games through the year of reserve grade. So movie

1414
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 4: good mate Race. He was playing in the center and

1415
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 4: I was playing lock and we played South new Castle.

1416
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 4: We had a black name Eardie O'Brien and Curry was

1417
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: an old old front rower, old tough as aniles, old bloke.

1418
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 4: So we're playing against South and they brought this kid

1419
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 4: down from Narrow broy and he was about six foot five.

1420
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 4: This kid, big bloke, hard to handle, and Ernie was

1421
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 4: into me. He said, gas, get into this blog. Don't

1422
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 4: you over and I'll do me best. And I couldn't

1423
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 4: handle him, you know, he's British, be carefuy with's sort

1424
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: of a block. So we get into the schedule. Outside

1425
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 4: Ernie said, don't you worry, Ernie. I'll sort him out

1426
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 4: the second half right over. So Ernie's locked him up

1427
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 4: and he's going wak a home building. They're both on

1428
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 4: the ground and Ernie saitting there. Kenny bow was referee.

1429
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 4: He said, come on, Ernie, get up, and he said

1430
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: I can't. He said why not? He said, I'll ship me.

1431
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 4: So he said, are you kidding me? He said no.

1432
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: He said see here from bucket and the sponge and

1433
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: another pair of shorts. So Patyas was a trader. He

1434
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 4: come running there. What's wrong? And he said, on the

1435
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 4: your shorts shipped yourself. So so they brief the shorts

1436
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: out and give me the buck and warded all the

1437
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 4: two two teams, who all stood around in said of

1438
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 4: the crowd couldn't see we're piercing ourself far. So anyway

1439
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 4: they wash you up against guys. Kenny Bayer gives a

1440
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 4: shout to appenalty for Caserne wouldn't get up. The next

1441
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 4: we hear this rural laughter from the hill. Pat's over

1442
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 4: there and he's got the shorts up showing the crowd

1443
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 4: pull the ship over the back of the short, good

1444
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 4: old day.

1445
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: Let's go