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Speaker 1: I get atif cook, I'll get a cray Harper.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Welcome to my show, and me, welcome

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Speaker 2: to your show. We didn't talk about this being a

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Speaker 2: co share, but fuck it, I'm making a corporate decision.

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Speaker 1: Fabulous.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: It might remind me. You'll forget this and the listeners

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Speaker 2: will want to know. But I need to tell you something.

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Speaker 2: When we get off air about about work stuff.

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Speaker 1: Remind me, so your listeners remind me because I'll forget.

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Speaker 2: Can you remind me to remind you? You know? When

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Speaker 2: people say to me, can you remind me? I'm like,

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Speaker 2: fucking no, I'm sixty. My head is full of shit

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to fucking I'm trying to finish a PhD.

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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to remember stuff. It's like I feel,

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Speaker 2: I feel I'm near my kind of cognitive threshold with

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Speaker 3: What if you do? What is your thing for retaining information?

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Speaker 3: How do you figure that out?

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Speaker 2: Well? It depends in what realm. Like if it's with

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Speaker 2: with with dry academic jargon. I struggle, so I try

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Speaker 2: to make it interesting. But there's there's a theory that Okay,

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Speaker 2: so well, this is my theory. And my theory is

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Speaker 2: that if I hear it and then I write it down,

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Speaker 2: and then as long as it's something that's not overly complicated.

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Speaker 2: But if I hear it, then I write it down.

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Speaker 2: The more you write, the more you're likely to remember.

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Speaker 2: So we know that I forget what the number is,

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Speaker 2: but it's pretty significant percentage. So if you go to

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Speaker 2: a workshop and just listen versus go to a workshop

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Speaker 2: are exponentially greater versus sitting in a room like I

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Speaker 2: can I say this. I'm going to give him a

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Speaker 2: shout out. David from Queensland Rail. I'm going Queensland next

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Speaker 2: week to do a gig, right, And so I did

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Speaker 2: a gig for them two years ago for two hours, right,

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Speaker 2: And we sat yesterday, we're on the call and we're

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Speaker 2: talking about what I'm going to talk about next week

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Speaker 2: and talking about content and he said, okay, so these

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Speaker 2: are the things that you covered last time. Because last

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Speaker 2: time I sent him a bit of checklist of what

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Speaker 2: I was going to cover. Fuck, now that's distracting.

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Speaker 1: I'll just get him just turning my electric blanket on.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, she's playing. She's playing with a cat. Everybody

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Speaker 2: on the cats just here anyway, anyway, so old mate. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: We're talking about what I spoke about two years ago

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Speaker 2: for two hours, and he's like, which I understand, is like, look,

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Speaker 2: half the audience will be new, but we don't want

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Speaker 2: you to cover the same content. And I'm like, while

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Speaker 2: I understand that, of course I won't. But what's hilarious

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Speaker 2: is two years ago they heard me talk for two hours.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I could almost guarantee you that all of

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Speaker 2: but that's just about you know. I try to when

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Speaker 2: people remember stories because stories create emotional connection. Humor creates

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Speaker 2: emotional connection. But just fucking information unless that really relates

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Speaker 2: to you strongly, right then generally it doesn't have the

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Speaker 2: same emotional, psychological, or physiological impact because emotion lives in

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Speaker 2: the body right. But when I say, which I won't

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Speaker 2: But from back to your question, from our learning, I

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Speaker 2: as I can I teach it, I share it. So

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Speaker 3: I'm almost the opposite to you in that I'm a

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Speaker 2: A really good point. Actually, use it's really about retention.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like I feel like my head is a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's true, though, isn't. It's trying to it's

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Speaker 2: think understanding how you work is important, and what time

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Speaker 2: I realize I'm over talking. There's my self awareness moment.

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Speaker 2: love teachers, They're amazing, but not everyone fits ideally into

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Speaker 2: What was it called? It will come to me? But anyway,

431
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: just if you want to listen to it, everyone, I

432
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: think it was called my Stroke of Insight or something

433
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: like that, doctor Jill Balty Taylor, and she spoke about

434
00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: when her the left side of her brain show down,

435
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 2: and so literally the left hemisphere of her brain shut down,

436
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: so she couldn't read or write or discern numbers or

437
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: she was obviously still alive and the right side of

438
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: her brain was still as she calls it online, but

439
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: the left side of her brain had gone offline, including

440
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: I guess the amygdala which is the emotional epicenter of

441
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: the brain where fear arises from, and all of that.

442
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: And even though this horrible thing she was having a

443
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: massive stroke, she said it was the most blissful, beautiful,

444
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: amazing experience she'd ever had in her life.

445
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

446
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when she they were amazed that she

447
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: lived because like, the whole left hemisphere is shut down,

448
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: and then it took her years years of rehab and

449
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: therapy and anyway, she did that amazing talk, amazing talk

450
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: on TED. It's probably twelve years old now, my stroke

451
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 2: of inside I think it's called. Yeah, but then we

452
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: had her on the show and yeah, she was talking

453
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: about which is no news, but you know how adaptable

454
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: the brain is. You know neuroplasticity. We didn't know that,

455
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: but now we know that the brain can. We used

456
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: to think if the part of the brain that does,

457
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: for example, find motor skills has damaged, then you're going

458
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: to be fucked forever. But now we know that other

459
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: parts of the brain can adapt to take on that role.

460
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: But we didn't know how to train it. We didn't

461
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: know how to train it. Now now you know, all

462
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: the geniuses that operate in that space know how that works.

463
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: I found it really interesting.

464
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: I was talking to Kevin McGhee the Grand Prix Motors

465
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: of Grand Prix Superstar yesterday and he.

466
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Speaker 1: Had a brain injury and had to have a brain

467
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: he's something. I think he had something taken out of

468
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: his brain.

469
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: I can't remember exactly, so he had an accident, how

470
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 3: to take it out and when anyone was getting back

471
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: on the bike in next to no time in a

472
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: matter of months to race again.

473
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: Was this on a show or just out and about

474
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: you met him?

475
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: No, this on a show because him and Ben Felt

476
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: and the fastest blind man on a motorcycle are the

477
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: guests at the event that I'm am seeing in a chooka.

478
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: Can I just say, can I just say that term

479
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: that sentence the fastest blind man on a motorcycle is

480
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: maybe the most ridiculous sentence or unexpected sentence. How the

481
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: fuck does a blind as somebody who rides motorbikes?

482
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually gets you into a fascinating and this

483
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: is one of the things that fascinated me. So he

484
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: did add to go do all this neurological testing to

485
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: get preble to get back on the bike.

486
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: They do all this like.

487
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: Reaction time testing, and the eurologists is like, well, go

488
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: get your gear on and get going because your reaction

489
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: time is four times faster than the average human.

490
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: And just thinking about that.

491
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: To go what actually goes into becoming greater to sport?

492
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: What do you really need to train? Do you really

493
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: need to fang around a track or do you need

494
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: to go? How do I best get a result in

495
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: training my reaction time because that's what's getting me the

496
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: wins on the track. And I think it's fascinating and

497
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 3: same goes. One of the biggest things I was fascinated

498
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: about was when I got back on my bike recently

499
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: and I'm going around a bend and I'm observing myself

500
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: going I don't know what I'm physically doing. It's funny

501
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: because all I do is look where I want to go,

502
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: and the bike goes there. Because that's just what's happening.

503
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: But if I had to tell someone, if I had

504
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: to tell Ben who's got no vision, how do you

505
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: translate that?

506
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: It's actually fascinating.

507
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. I mean that. That makes me nervous

508
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: thinking about that.

509
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: No, two hundred and seventy k's an hour.

510
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: By the way, that's how fast he goes.

511
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, two hundred and seventy one k's in our world

512
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: record twenty eighteen.

513
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: They did it first time Kevin navigated him.

514
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: He got his lefts and right it's wrong and sent

515
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: him into a baile hay.

516
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Fuck that fuck that. I used to train Todd and

517
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Rick Kelly and Michael Caruso and James Moffatt who were

518
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: the Nissan Motor Racing V Supercar team, right, and I

519
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: used to go to their warehouse factory fucking high performance

520
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: center in Brayside and they had this incredible gym there

521
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: just for the drivers, Like, so four blokes, they've got

522
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: this incredible gym. But they also had this which you've

523
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: probably seen, this amazing thing on the wall, which is

524
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: a reaction time training device. And so there's like all

525
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: these let's just call them, big buttons on a wall

526
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: that lights up, and so you've every time one lights up,

527
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: you've got to hit it. So it's you would fucking

528
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: this because you're ADHD and you're super You're like a

529
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: fucking you're like a cat watching a mouse. You're like

530
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: ready to spring. Right, Yeah, you would fucking love this,

531
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: you'd because you'd be so high and you wouldn't get

532
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: off it because you want to keep beating your time.

533
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: But what it does is it it'll like I can't

534
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: remember the number, but it might it might have light

535
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: up like sixty times. And so one of the kind

536
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: of it's almost like a you don't like the round

537
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: blue lights on top of a cop car. Yeah, like

538
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: half the size of that, maybe a third the size

539
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: of that, but it lights up and you got to

540
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: hit it. When you hit it, the next one will

541
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: light up. When you hit that, the next one will

542
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: light up and so on. So how long before the

543
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: next one light lights up is determined by how quickly

544
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: you hit the one before, right, So I think it's

545
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's eighty eighty like it goes well.

546
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: The first time it took me sixty five seconds and

547
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: then sixty two seconds, and then you know, and then

548
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: I think I was with I can't remember. It might

549
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: have been Michael Caruso. Anyway, one of the drivers. They

550
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: told me how it works, and I'm fucking around with it.

551
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm like a fucking dinosaur with boxing gloves on. And

552
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: then then he jumped on and did all eighty or

553
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: whatever it was in about like twenty two seconds, like

554
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: it was as the moment that it lit up he

555
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: touched it, and they're all lighting up in different spaces.

556
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: It's like a one meter square maybe a bit bigger. Yeah,

557
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, yeah, this is so it is

558
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: in answer to your question reaction time. But then you think, also,

559
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: obviously you need skill, Obviously you need fucking big balls metaphorically,

560
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, like you need talk about equanimity, talk about chaos,

561
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: like fucking ducing a bike is chaos.

562
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in the.

563
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Middle of the in the middle of people trying to

564
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: pass you outside inside undercut, you turn two, turn three,

565
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: fucking straight, heavy braking, lean in, knee on the ground,

566
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: elbow on. That's fucking chaos. And in the middle of

567
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: all of that. You've got to be the opposite of chaotic.

568
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

569
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

570
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: There was one instance where he kept shifting to the

571
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: left right and they couldn't figure it out. And what

572
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: was happening was every time he had to do a

573
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: gear change, so the pressure when he takes his foot off,

574
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: puts it back on. And when you've got and this

575
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: is the thing, when you got visual feedback, your body

576
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: just does what the subconscious does what it does, and

577
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: it's understanding. I love this because this is what I

578
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: do with training boxing. All the time. People are there

579
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: looking at things, controlling things, and I'm training the stuff

580
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: that they're controlling but not controlling, and then trying to

581
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: teach them by the methods of the things they do control.

582
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: And so every time he shifts his the gears and

583
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: takes pressure off both pedals and then puts it back on,

584
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: he's shifted, you know, a couple of inches to the left,

585
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: and like you do that on a track so many

586
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: times and then next.

587
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Minute you're wait way too close to the wall.

588
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: Fuck that that is just so terrifying the thought of

589
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: a blind person riding a fucking high performance motorbike and

590
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: they can't see what's going on.

591
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: I will post the link to in the typ group too,

592
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: and I'll send it to you. There's a link to

593
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: the video of Heaven behind the bike as he's no no,

594
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: I think it's on the dash of the bike that

595
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: Ben's riding as he's doing this.

596
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: And I watched it and I felt sick with nerves.

597
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: You've just got the bike.

598
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: You can feel the bike, you can see the bike shattering,

599
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: and it's just like, oh, especially if you know what

600
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: it feels like to ride a bike and you just

601
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: see the gauge going up, and it's just insane.

602
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: I tell you what. You don't want to have happened.

603
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Your colms to break down.

604
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: That's happened. That's happened. He's done that.

605
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Fuck that you're heading into a corner and you phone

606
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: go offline. You can't get that.

607
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: He ends up so in tune with the look and that,

608
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: like he said, by the time we've done however many

609
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: laps around the track, and comms did drop out once

610
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: or twice, it didn't matter because he knew exactly where

611
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: he was on the track and on the circuit, and

612
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 3: he said, I wish that I could get my vision

613
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: back now, just because I'd be a much better writer

614
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: because everything else is so heightened because it doesn't have

615
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 3: the vision.

616
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: So if we extrapolate everything that we've spoken about so far,

617
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: you know what makes you know, what makes us a

618
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: good learner, what makes a good teacher, what's the ideal

619
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: environment to like some things are practical, but we need

620
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: to do some theory before the prack. Tell me about

621
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: teaching boxing. Tell me about what makes somebody a good

622
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: student in the boxing space? Which students you feel like

623
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: some sorry I'll shut up up to this, like some boxers.

624
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: It seems to me like you can only learn boxing

625
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: by doing it. Of course.

626
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a process of I think, being able to

627
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: really listen and understand to and get into your body.

628
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: So it's about getting into your body. And for me,

629
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 3: like I wasn't a natural at it, and that's why

630
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: I love it so much, and I think that's what's

631
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: made me very good at figuring it out and teaching

632
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: it to others. Because when you can just do something,

633
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 3: it's really hard to know, Like what we've just spoke about,

634
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: if you're just good at something, you haven't analyt had

635
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: to analyze all the different things that are getting in

636
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: the way or out of the way of you being

637
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: good at that thing. So boxing is we think we're

638
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: making choices, but the choices we're making are happening before

639
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: the movements, right, So by the time a glove moves towards.

640
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: My face, there's not enough time for me to move

641
00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: out of the way.

642
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: So what's actually happening is my subconscious is identified what

643
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: happens before a punch, and I've trained that reaction. But

644
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: where I think the choice is happening actually isn't where

645
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: it's happening. So it's understanding what position do I have

646
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: to be and how do I have to hold myself.

647
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: If I hold myself in a.

648
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: Different posture, the things that I choose to do will

649
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: be different. So sometimes it's just it's just the way

650
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: you hold your posture that's going to make you make

651
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: a different choice. You can have the same amount of bravery,

652
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: like if I, for example, if I stand really upright

653
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: with my head up and my shoulders back, and someone

654
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: throws a punch at my face, and even if I'm

655
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: throwing a punch back at the same time, I will

656
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: pull my head back and lift it up and out

657
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: because the body will always keep you safe. So the

658
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: body goes, shit, there's something coming to my face, Get up,

659
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: get out.

660
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: Whereas if I just.

661
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: Engage my core, crouch down, round the shoulders forward, that

662
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: same thing happens, and I will my head I know

663
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: safe for that to punch me in the top of

664
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: the head, and I will step forward and I will drop.

665
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: My knees will drop, so I won't lift my head

666
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: up and pull out. My knees will drop down and

667
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: I'll throw a punch straight away. And that's that's not

668
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: it's a choice, but it's not a choice. It happens

669
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: despite what you want to do. And that's the frustrating

670
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: part of boxing. Do you train, train, train, train, train,

671
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: You get in the ring, you're stand in front of

672
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: someone and everything you've trained for straight changes, and you're.

673
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck?

674
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 3: Like I know what to do and now I'm not

675
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: doing it. And then you've got to go to the

676
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: drawing board and go, what's happening? How am I managing

677
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: my anxiety? What's that doing in my pasture? Where's the

678
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: actual what part of the chain of events is affecting

679
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: what I want to do compared to what I'm doing?

680
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny how that stuff that we do

681
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: on autopilot that we don't have time to go, oh,

682
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: this is happening. Oh what's the appropriate response? Oh, you

683
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: know what I'll do? Like there isn't that time. The

684
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: other day, I was riding to the gym and I

685
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: you know, I started riding motorbikes when I was five

686
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: or six, and I started riding all the time on

687
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: the road when I was eighteen, which is forty two

688
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: years ago. And There's not really many days of my

689
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: life where I'm not riding a motorbike. Right, So there's it,

690
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: you know, which not say I'm the best rider in

691
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: the world, but it is to say that I'm very

692
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: very very very experienced, right. And it was funny because

693
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, when you're on a motorbike, you've got you know,

694
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: you've got a front break with for those who don't know,

695
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: you have a front brake and a back break, and

696
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: the front brake is pulled in with your right hand.

697
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: The clutch obviously where it is in a car, you know,

698
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: but the clutch on a motorbike is the left lever,

699
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: and then the gear changes at your left foot and

700
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: the back wheel brake or the back brake is the

701
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: right foot, and then you've got indicators left and right

702
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: and canceling on your left thumb, and then you've got

703
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: you know, fucking high beam also on your left thumb,

704
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: and you you know bunch of things right, But you

705
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: just ride along and you don't think about what you're doing.

706
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: And the other day this lady just pulled out, just

707
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: happened to be a lady like I was riding along

708
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: Ludston Street. She just pulled out. She didn't see me,

709
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: and I nearly fucking plowed into her. And if I

710
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention, and I wasn't a good writer, I

711
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: would have just ridden into her. And within I don't know,

712
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: not one second. I would say, one tenth of one second,

713
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: my thumb was on the horn and like, and I'd

714
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: probably toot my horn on my motorbike once or twice

715
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 2: a year. It's not like it's something like you yeah,

716
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: but it's just so funny. This thing happens, and you're

717
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: straight away reacting, and then all of a sudden she

718
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: realized she was just pulling in front of a vehicle,

719
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: which was me on my vehicle, and it all turned

720
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: out okay, and obviously she wasn't I trying to kill me,

721
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: but she almost did. I was thinking when I got

722
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: to the gym, I was thinking, if that wasn't me,

723
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: if that was someone who got their license two weeks ago,

724
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: that would have been.

725
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Messy, oh one hundred percent.

726
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: And that's what my biggest fit, that was the biggest

727
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: cause for my nerves and anxiety getting back on was

728
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: the realizing in the moment that I didn't have that

729
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: that wasn't automatic.

730
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: For a while, that I didn't have those automatic.

731
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: I was thinking so hard about the controls of the

732
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: bike that including traffic and all of the other things

733
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: I need to focus on. I was like this, this

734
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: is too much of my head.

735
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: But you know what's great. I mean, we know that,

736
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: like one of the things that gets spoken about a

737
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: lot is not enough, and I think needs to be

738
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: spoken about more. But increasingly we're talking about improving cognitive

739
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: function as we get older. Right, And this is going

740
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: to be this is going to sound like a stretch,

741
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: but I absolutely mean it while writing, and I'm fully

742
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: acknowledging everyone motorcycles in general, it's not a safe hobby.

743
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: I recognize that. But also Tip Scott full writing gear

744
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: with body armor in a great helmet, great gloves and

745
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: all of that. So as protected as you can be,

746
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: she is. But apart from having fun, and apart from

747
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: the brain chemistry that's going on, and apart from you know,

748
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: just the fucking thrill factor, Like, it's actually cognitively enhancing

749
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: because you've had to retrain your brain to become very

750
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: familiar with this thing that you'd become less familiar with,

751
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: and to retrain your brain around these new skills. Right,

752
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: even the automaticness of what I was talking about before

753
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: with horn, the indicator, the light's lib lot, low beam,

754
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: high beam, break clutch, you know, front break, back break, Like,

755
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're using this new language with

756
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: your body, this new language, these new skills, and for

757
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: you to get from A to B, you need to

758
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: become very good at this language of riding this thing

759
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: and interacting and becoming one with this thing. So the

760
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: biology and the technology kind of merged, the technology of

761
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: the motorbike and the biology of the human. And it

762
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: sounds bullshit, but you watch someone who's great. It's just

763
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: one unit moving, it's not some blob sitting awkwardly on

764
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: top of this missile it's like this fucking I don't know.

765
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: It's this synthesis of technology and biology and performance. And

766
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: if you ride, you get that. You know, when you

767
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: first get back on a bike, you're the blob. Yes,

768
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: You're the awkward blob. Yes.

769
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 3: And there were days when I would get on it

770
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: and feel it, one with.

771
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: It and be like, awesome, we're there.

772
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: And then another day where I'd get on and I'll

773
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: be a bit clunky and a bit rusty on the

774
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what is going on?

775
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: And the moment I felt like that, I was very overthinking.

776
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: I was trying to control it, like controlling the punch

777
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: in a boxing ring. Yeah.

778
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: I think it's so important as we get older that

779
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: we consciously and I know I say this a lot,

780
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: but I think people don't really get it, Like I

781
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: need to be careful what I say here now. But

782
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time with my mum and

783
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: dad lately, and you know, obviously they're in their mid

784
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: eighties and obviously there's going to be cognitive decline, and

785
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: I get all of that, but you know, I went

786
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: out to dinner with them on Sunday night and there

787
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: was this old dude there and he's eighty six or

788
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: eighty seven, like fucking hell, his brain was like a

789
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: sharp fifty year old And I was talking to him

790
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: and he still works, like he has a farm and

791
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: he's still And I'm not saying we should all be

792
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: working mid eighties. But the point is not that he works.

793
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: The point is that he's constantly using his brain. He's

794
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: constantly solving problems. He's constantly having to do things, make decisions,

795
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 2: manage things, coordinate things, create plans, make hard decisions, take action,

796
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: create outcomes, adapt and adjust. And because he's you know,

797
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure part of its biology, but for sure part

798
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: of its lifestyle and behavior. And then I look at

799
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: people with respect who basically just hang up the gloves,

800
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: you know, at a certain age, and really don't do

801
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: consciously do anything to keep their brain firing. They just

802
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: kind of metaphorically or perhaps literally, just retire to the couch.

803
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: And no, we don't need to all work until we're

804
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: eighty five, and we don't need to be you know,

805
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: curing cancer and joining the space program. But to realize that,

806
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: just like you need to walk and move and try

807
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: to retain some physical strength, you've got to use your

808
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: fucking brain, because if you don't, it's going to fall apart,

809
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: you know. So I think that lifelong learning is such

810
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: a crucial component but overall health.

811
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was training Mark the other day, and one

812
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: of my favorite things about that is like he comes

813
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: in at sixty six years old, often mentioning that he's

814
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: sixty six years old with shittyknes that don't work and

815
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: can't this and can't that. And one of our recent conversations,

816
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: he was like, you know, one is just managing his emotions.

817
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: It's like he manages his emotions differently. He goes like,

818
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm angry.

819
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: A need more. I deal with emotions differently.

820
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: And also the way he can walk out on stage

821
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: when he has nerves. He goes like, the way I

822
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 3: manage nerves and manage going on stage has transformed. And

823
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: he looks around him at people in around his age group,

824
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: and he sees the decline and now he's not bound

825
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: by that.

826
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: M It's great.

827
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: It's the best.

828
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean. And also we're talking about Mark Seymour, everyone

829
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: from Hunters and Collectors, who now is doing his own

830
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: solo thing and just an album called The Boxer out now.

831
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, he's he does not move like

832
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 2: a guy whose next big birthday is seventy.

833
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sixty eight, settled down. No next big day.

834
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: That big birthday, Yes, sixty seven now, isn't he yeah

835
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: sixty eight? Yeah, And he moves like a forty five

836
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: year old. Forty year old, and I mean a good

837
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: forty forty five like on stage and his energy and

838
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: also you know how when some singers get old, their

839
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: voice gets shit got better? Voice is the same or

840
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: better better?

841
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

842
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well it's been good. I've learned a lot. I've

843
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: learned a.

844
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Lot me too. You must have ticked the box on

845
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: my learning style.

846
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I do my very best. Well, I hope

847
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: you get better. You've been a little bit shit, you've

848
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: been a bit crooked, but you did rock up. You

849
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: didn't wing or sook once, So fucking.

850
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: Win out.

851
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: We're hanging out with me. It's therapeutic, isn't it?

852
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: True story?

853
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. Yeah, I mean I'm like a big

854
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: fucking pill.

855
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: With it here.

856
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: I am just taking my medicine, rocking up and taking

857
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: my medicine.

858
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: Have you noticed how short my hair is? I just

859
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: got back from Danny the barber?

860
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Oh, well done, Danny looking sharp harps.

861
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: Danny the barber speak. I'm going to lead with this,

862
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: Danny the speaking of intelligence. Like this dude. You know

863
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: those people that you just want to be around. Yeah,

864
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: this guy like his I mean, obviously it's his own business,

865
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Speaker 2: so and he does great and hiss, but his social, emotional,

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Speaker 2: situational intelligence it's off the scale. When I go in,

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Speaker 2: it's like he's just met his best friend that he

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Speaker 2: hasn't seen for twenty years. His energy is crazy. And

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Speaker 2: this sounds weird, but even when he puts his hands

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Speaker 2: on you, like when he will touch his shoulder or

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Speaker 2: he'll touch your neck because he's shaving this or cutting

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Speaker 2: that or trimming that, it's just funny. It's one of

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Speaker 2: those people. I like being around him and every time,

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't do this for every time I go in.

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Speaker 2: I overpay him every time. And even though I overpay

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Speaker 2: by quite a lot, every time, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: getting the better deal. And it's like I'm only going

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Speaker 2: there forty percent for the haircut, Yeah, it's sixty percent

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Speaker 2: for the experience. Yeah, And that dude he is there's

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Speaker 2: a kind of intelligence that he has that you cannot teach.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. That's a kid.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point to make to anyone that's running

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Speaker 3: their own business or thing.

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Speaker 2: Whether or not you're a personal trainer or a barber,

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Speaker 2: or an accountants or a fucking podcaster. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: can be the person that people love to be around

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Speaker 2: because of your energy and your mindset, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's contagious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love.

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Speaker 2: There are some people I love being around. He's one

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Speaker 2: I often walk past because it's one hundred meters away.

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Speaker 2: I just go in and give him a hug. We

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Speaker 2: fucking hug each other. I go, hey, y'ar mate, He's

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Speaker 2: like good, and then I walk out. He goes, love you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta love you, mate.

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Speaker 3: I just keep walking And do you go and buy

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Speaker 3: hair growth supplements so that you can get more haircuts

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Speaker 3: so your hair growth faster.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I do do when I'm getting

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Speaker 2: what I do do when I'm getting a coffee. I

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Speaker 2: often walk up there and ask him if he wants one,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I want. You know, he's cutting head

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Speaker 2: like a motherfucker, and he's you know, sometimes he's probably

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Speaker 2: on his feet doing that. Like I often go past,

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Speaker 2: there's three people waiting I'm like, when does this guy

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Speaker 2: have a wheel, or a pool or a sandwich. I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine that. Oh sorry everyone, I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: go have a shit. I'll be back in six minutes.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think about that. That's something for everyone to

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Speaker 2: think about as we close out another episode of The

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Speaker 2: Youth Project. Thanks Tim, Thanks helps Boom