Speaker 1: Why on Sky News Bits and Sharry Good Evening.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 3: It's now officially November five, Election Day in the United States.
Speaker 3: It's just gone four am on the East coast, one
Speaker 3: am on the West. Voting will get underway in a
Speaker 3: couple of hours time, and when we sit here tomorrow night,
Speaker 3: this time we'll know whether Donald Trump is president or
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris or if it's too close to call, with.
Speaker 4: A final countdown.
Speaker 3: Now on, we have big coverage on the show tonight,
Speaker 3: Miranda Devine joins us from New York. She slams the
Speaker 3: media coverage of Trump. She says it's even worse than
Speaker 3: at the last election. She also accuses the Democrats of
Speaker 3: putting Trump backers in jail. Plus concerns already about voter
Speaker 3: fraud in Pennsylvania. I'll speak about this with Annalise Nilsen
Speaker 3: in Washington, and we'll get final predictions from Brnwin, Bishop
Speaker 3: Kayla Bond and more. Also on the show tonight, James
Speaker 3: Patterson will be on live as the Albanese government admits
Speaker 3: it is canceled a Palestinian visa over security concerns.
Speaker 4: Also coming up, the ABC.
Speaker 3: Finally admits it faked gunshots as it pursued. Heston Russell,
Speaker 3: a decorated former military commander, will speak with me about
Speaker 3: this later, but first tonight to a major story that
Speaker 3: the Albanezy government has given sixteen point eight million dollars
Speaker 3: in taxpayer funds for social cohesion to many groups that
Speaker 3: have promoted racism, anti Semitism and extremism. The Alberaneze government
Speaker 3: pretends to care about these issues, but it's simply lip service.
Speaker 4: It's a lie.
Speaker 3: In fact, it's quite the opposite. They're actually financially supporting
Speaker 3: groups that are peddling racism, conspiracy theories, are promoting extremism.
Speaker 3: This finding was meant to be for combating racism, Islamophobia,
Speaker 3: misinformation and disinformation sixteen million dollars. Yet one of the
Speaker 3: groups that's received funding from the Albanese government is the
Speaker 3: Lebanese Muslim Association.
Speaker 4: Home Affairs gave this.
Speaker 3: Group one point sixty five million dollars in March this
Speaker 3: year for supposedly their work promoting social cohesion one point
Speaker 3: six million dollars.
Speaker 4: This is the group that.
Speaker 3: On October eighth last year, so that Israel did not
Speaker 3: have the right to defend itself just hours after the
Speaker 3: terror attacks, when entire families were slaughtered in their beds
Speaker 3: and hundreds were kidnapped.
Speaker 4: Not one word of sorrow for.
Speaker 3: All the innocent people killed that day or the day before.
Speaker 3: Just two days earlier, Albanezi and Tony Burke had met
Speaker 3: with the group, as you can see in this picture here,
Speaker 3: and this Muslim group also joined with his book Career
Speaker 3: to hold a rally on the one year anniversary of
Speaker 3: the October seven attacks. Well, here was James Patterson in
Speaker 3: Satured Estimates, asking why this group deserves one point six
Speaker 3: million dollars in our taxpayer funds.
Speaker 5: This is, of course a rally on the anniversary of
Speaker 5: the largest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust, which
Speaker 5: the Prime Minister himself said shouldn't proceed. So again is
Speaker 5: the Lebanese Muslim Association who's involved in promoting events like
Speaker 5: this and appropriate recipient of a grant like that.
Speaker 3: But there was no apology for this funding, just excuses
Speaker 3: from Labor Minister Murray wat We'll take one.
Speaker 6: Notice those details, but I'd remind you that on numerous
Speaker 6: occasions the Prime Minister and Minister Burke and other member
Speaker 6: of our government have contempt condemned a range of hateful
Speaker 6: remarks made by a range of people concerning what's happening.
Speaker 3: In the Middle East, and the Albaneze government gave another
Speaker 3: group called Palestinian Christians in Australia more than half a
Speaker 3: million dollars in September this year, and here's Tony Burke
Speaker 3: meeting with the group back in December. But instead of
Speaker 3: promoting social cohesion, one official from the group has posted
Speaker 3: anti submitted conspiracies that the wall was never about her
Speaker 3: muss it was all about gas reserves.
Speaker 4: What rubbish.
Speaker 3: And a member of the group also shared a hateful
Speaker 3: offensive post claiming that Zionism is a continuation of Nazism
Speaker 3: and that the Palestinians are the final victims of a holocaust. Well,
Speaker 3: James Patterson provided further evidence about this group that's received
Speaker 3: half a million dollars in taxpayer funds in senate estimates.
Speaker 5: The treasurer of this organization posted it on Instagram. I
Speaker 5: can't prepat these words on handside because it would be unparliamentary.
Speaker 5: But she uses expletives about Israel. She said it's almost
Speaker 5: over for you roll. The whole world knows, they know
Speaker 5: your monsters, and that's putting it likely.
Speaker 4: F Israel. It's almost over for you.
Speaker 3: This doesn't sound like a group that should be receiving
Speaker 3: taxpay of funds for social cohesion.
Speaker 4: James Patterson went on.
Speaker 5: This treasurer of this association also posted the ALKACM logo
Speaker 5: targeting similar the inverted red triangle, along with the captions
Speaker 5: you poked, you pushed, you produdgt, you provoked, you played victim,
Speaker 5: you deserve to pay, You parasitic pariah, pretty clearly endorsing
Speaker 5: violence and terrorism against star of Israel. Is that an
Speaker 5: appropriate thing to post?
Speaker 3: Same answer as before, and as you saw their Labor
Speaker 3: Senator Murray what was on his phone messaging, playing, doing
Speaker 3: something with his phone. He was barely listening. He didn't
Speaker 3: bother to answer the question. He just said, same answer
Speaker 3: as before. Well, here's that post that James Patterson just
Speaker 3: spoke about, and you can clearly see the red inverted
Speaker 3: triangle which symbolizes from us with the words and they
Speaker 3: might be a bit small for you, but the words
Speaker 3: say you play victim, you deserve to pay. And as
Speaker 3: you saw, and let's play that again. When Labor Minister Murray,
Speaker 3: what was asked about this? He just sat looking at
Speaker 3: his phone doesn't murray, what care that taxpayer funds are
Speaker 3: going to organizations where some senior officials promote extremism and
Speaker 3: racism when those funds are meant to be for helping
Speaker 3: social cohesion in Australia. I mean, it's utterly absurd, It
Speaker 3: makes no sense. And there are many, many more examples,
Speaker 3: like the Albaneze government giving a group called Sydney Community
Speaker 3: Connect Ink one hundred and ten thousand dollars. That's despite
Speaker 3: the fact it had promoted a fundraising event with none
Speaker 3: other than Shaike Ibraham Dudoun, who, as you just saw.
Speaker 4: Said this.
Speaker 7: That's a day of courage.
Speaker 3: And another speaker that Sydney Community connect promoted was Ahmed Bassal,
Speaker 3: who has posted conspiracies about Jews on his social media.
Speaker 3: He claimed that they run the Biden administration. Jews make
Speaker 3: up less than two percent of the population of your country,
Speaker 3: but they hold every senior level cabinet position in the
Speaker 3: Biden administration except Secretary of Defense. Well again, James Patterson
Speaker 3: quite rightly interrogated the government officials about this.
Speaker 5: Has some comments alongside that about how terrible it is
Speaker 5: that Jewish Zionists have taken over the US governments. Is
Speaker 5: that an appropriate person to receiving a social cohesion grant.
Speaker 8: So, Senator, what we are, what we were looking for,
Speaker 8: was organizations with track records of supporting their community, those
Speaker 8: with whom we have worked. We will take on notice
Speaker 8: the issues that you're raising today and come back to
Speaker 8: with more detail on due diligence.
Speaker 4: And that's Stephanie Foster. By the way.
Speaker 3: The Albanezi government appointed her as Home Affairs Secretary after
Speaker 3: sacking Mike Pizzulo, and she's the same official who took
Speaker 3: down the Australian flags from the website in what amounts
Speaker 3: to a clear case of council culture. And all this money,
Speaker 3: by the way, the sixteen million dollars for social cohesion
Speaker 3: was rushed out the door, as Stephanie Foster herself admitted.
Speaker 8: And we were trying to operate pretty quickly, just money out.
Speaker 3: James Patterson spent twenty one minutes grilling the officials on
Speaker 3: this topic, and the entire time he was given bureaucratic,
Speaker 3: nonsensical non answers. None of those present could give any
Speaker 3: explanation for why sixteen point eight million dollars in taxpayer
Speaker 3: funds were given to groups that promoted extremism and anti semitism.
Speaker 5: This is a fairly important question because a part of
Speaker 5: the rationale for some of this funding was the promotion
Speaker 5: of social cohesion, and it would be deeply ironic if
Speaker 5: taxpayers money went instead to groups who are undermining social cohesion,
Speaker 5: rather than promoting social cohesions. I'd like to know what
Speaker 5: due diligence the department or the government did to make
Speaker 5: sure that that wasn't the case, that no taxpayers money
Speaker 5: went to organizations promoting disharmony or extremism. We can take
Speaker 5: you're not able to tell me about those processes now.
Speaker 9: I think mischanting. You said you take it on notice center.
Speaker 3: So how and why these groups were given millions of
Speaker 3: dollars in funding, Well, no one can say, Labor minister Murray,
Speaker 3: what looks down at his phone? The officials can't answer,
Speaker 3: even though the Home Affairs Secretary is sitting right there.
Speaker 3: And by the way, there was no competitive tender for
Speaker 3: these grants, no independent process. The groups were hand picked
Speaker 3: for the millions of dollars in funding they received by
Speaker 3: the Albanzi government ministers, and some of them were even
Speaker 3: approached and invited to apply by labor ministers now, either
Speaker 3: the Home Affairs Department and the Albanzi government are so
Speaker 3: incompetent that they didn't do any proper checks before handing
Speaker 3: out cash. Cash that's meant to fix social cohesion and
Speaker 3: to combat misinformation, yet it was given to groups that
Speaker 3: promote her Mausk symbols and global conspiracies. So either they're
Speaker 3: deeply incompetent, or they know but simply don't care that
Speaker 3: they're funding groups that fuel conspiracies and extremism.
Speaker 4: It's one or the other.
Speaker 3: Incompetence or they're happy to perpetuate racism with taxpayer funds.
Speaker 3: Maybe they can take that question on Notice two and
Speaker 3: let's bring in shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson right now, James,
Speaker 3: it goes without saying that you are single handedly holding
Speaker 3: much of the Albanesi government to account. You've done a
Speaker 3: sensational job on many topics over the past two days.
Speaker 3: On this issue, do you think this is just utter
Speaker 3: disregard for the rise in extremism in social cohesion that's
Speaker 3: eroding on our streets.
Speaker 4: Or do you think this is a case of incompetence.
Speaker 5: Sharry, the Labor Party under Anthony Alberanezi has handed nearly
Speaker 5: tens of millions of dollars to extrememists, to hate preachers,
Speaker 5: to anti Israel radicals and to anti Semites.
Speaker 1: That can't be by accident.
Speaker 5: It is either through complete ill care for the spending
Speaker 5: of taxpayer money and no concern for the implications for
Speaker 5: our country, or it is a calculated attempt. I think
Speaker 5: that what the root of this problem is that the
Speaker 5: Lay Party is far more concerned about their own political
Speaker 5: interest than the national interest, because in addition to handing
Speaker 5: out this taxpayer money for social cohesion to extremists, they
Speaker 5: also happen to hand them out to organizations.
Speaker 1: In labor seats.
Speaker 5: In fact, seventy eight percent of the grants given out
Speaker 5: so far have been to labor seats. All of those
Speaker 5: seats are either under siege by the Greens all the
Speaker 5: Muslim Votes Matter movement. So it seems like their political
Speaker 5: interest to taking precedency over the national interest, and unfortunately
Speaker 5: that's what we've come to expect from Labour under Antthon Galbanese,
Speaker 5: and particularly in this portfolio under Tony Burke.
Speaker 4: It is so deeply disappointing.
Speaker 3: James Patterson, we've also seen the admission that one Palestinian
Speaker 3: who was given a VS fast tracked visa by the
Speaker 3: Albanesi government has now been moved to unshold detention. Their
Speaker 3: visa has been revoked, we're told on character grounds, but
Speaker 3: no proper explanation about why this person was given a
Speaker 3: visa in the first place and why it's now been canceled.
Speaker 1: You're right, Charry.
Speaker 5: For months now, the government has been assuring us that
Speaker 5: all the necessary checks have taken place, that there should
Speaker 5: be no concerns about any of the three thousand tourist
Speaker 5: visas handed out to Gaza residents who were seeking to
Speaker 5: come to this country, and that there was nothing to fear.
Speaker 5: But they've now been forced to admit that one person
Speaker 5: on shore has had their visa canceled on character grounds.
Speaker 5: And what that means is that person was granted a visa,
Speaker 5: has come to our country and either they've gone on
Speaker 5: to do something horrific in our community or a new
Speaker 5: piece of information has come to light about something that
Speaker 5: they've done in their past. Now, either way, it's not
Speaker 5: good for the Albanezi government because they assured us that
Speaker 5: all the necessary checks took place, that they weren't being reckless,
Speaker 5: that they didn't take any risks. But when you do
Speaker 5: as they did in this instance, refer two six hundred
Speaker 5: visas from Gaza to Asio on a single day and
Speaker 5: ask them to vet them, including after many of them
Speaker 5: had already been issued and many of them had already
Speaker 5: traveled to Australia, it is bound to end into years.
Speaker 1: And I fear that's what's happened to you.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I understand that you've also raised concerns that the Home
Speaker 3: Affairs Minister could be driving a vehicle, that it's potentially
Speaker 3: the case that it could have a listening device. Inate
Speaker 3: can you tell us what your concerns are and why
Speaker 3: you have made these comments.
Speaker 5: So? Yesterday and Senator Estimate shari I asked the Department
Speaker 5: of Home Affairs to explain the potential national and cybersecurity
Speaker 5: risks from internet connected electric vehicles made in China, and
Speaker 5: they stepped through some of the risks. They said it
Speaker 5: was possible for these evs to listen to the occupants
Speaker 5: while they're in the car. They said it was possible
Speaker 5: for these evs to track the movements of that person
Speaker 5: as they drive through our cities and our states. They
Speaker 5: said that it was possible for the external cameras on
Speaker 5: these vehicles to be recording other people and for that
Speaker 5: to be transmitted back to the owners. And they also
Speaker 5: said that if you plugged in an external device into
Speaker 5: that car, like a mobile phone, you could be compromising
Speaker 5: that device. I then asked them whether or not that
Speaker 5: briefed the Minister for Home Affairs on this issue.
Speaker 1: They said that briefed him multiple times.
Speaker 5: And then I asked them why it was the fact
Speaker 5: that Tony Burke is driving an Internet connected smart EV
Speaker 5: vehicle and they looked at their shoes, they looked at
Speaker 5: their floor, at the floor, they looked at the roof
Speaker 5: to avoid answering the question, but eventually had to admit, yes,
Speaker 5: our Minister for Home Affairs and Cybersecurity is driving around
Speaker 5: in a car that is a potential listing device for
Speaker 5: the Chinese Communist Party.
Speaker 3: Look unbelievable admissions that you've managed to extract and multiple
Speaker 3: issues at Senate Estimates this week. James Patterson, thank you
Speaker 3: for your time and let's bringing now Sky News host
Speaker 3: Kayla Bonden from a Speaker of the House Brunwin Bishop
Speaker 3: terrific to see both of you on the well the
Speaker 3: eve or the.
Speaker 4: Start of this US election.
Speaker 3: Really, Look, we have seen criticism of Donald Trump for
Speaker 3: being off message in the final critical week of the campaign,
Speaker 3: but he's told a journalist that apparently this is a
Speaker 3: deliberate strategy, and he calls it the weave. Have a look,
Speaker 3: he is.
Speaker 10: Out there, you know, talking about putting guns in Liz
Speaker 10: Cheney's face, the Madison Square Garden rally, all that that
Speaker 10: had and I said that there are that he's not disciplined,
Speaker 10: he doesn't have a message, and he.
Speaker 1: Was upset with that.
Speaker 10: He said the weave, that's what he calls it when
Speaker 10: he bounces around. Is why he got elected president.
Speaker 3: So Romin this is interesting because you know, Trump has
Speaker 3: said some utterly, you know, indefensible things in the past
Speaker 3: few days, but he claims.
Speaker 4: It's a strategy that works. As we just heard there.
Speaker 4: What do you think.
Speaker 11: I don't really think many of them metter very much.
Speaker 11: But I do think what meted was allowing that comedian
Speaker 11: to Israelly who said that Puerto Rican's the Puerto Rico
Speaker 11: was garbage because that got a bad bunny who has
Speaker 11: forty five million followers. Tremendously popular Puerto Rican singer songwriter
Speaker 11: well regarded influencing three hundred thousand Puerto Rican voters in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9: That matters.
Speaker 11: As for the rest of it, I think we've become
Speaker 11: used to hearing the different ways that Donald Trump speaks.
Speaker 11: We've been listening to it since twenty twenty two in
Speaker 11: this last iteration, or even before, of course, well even
Speaker 11: before he's been at it since twenty twenty two in
Speaker 11: this iteration. So I think a lot of people have
Speaker 11: factored it in. I think that people are not influenced
Speaker 11: by it particularly, but I think they are influenced by
Speaker 11: the question he asks, are you better off now than
Speaker 11: you were four years ago?
Speaker 4: That is right on message?
Speaker 11: I mean, and if I can just add immigration, right
Speaker 11: on message one percent.
Speaker 3: But I think that was you know, that journalist's point
Speaker 3: that he should have been sticking to his core messages.
Speaker 3: But we've seen this scattered approach in the Republican campaign.
Speaker 3: I mean, Caleb, we even saw Bizarly Tucker Carlson say
Speaker 3: that blame abortions for hurricanes. I mean, they should all
Speaker 3: of the key Republican figures who have a big following
Speaker 3: should be saying sensible things are on message and not
Speaker 3: these wacky things like blaming abortion for hurricanes.
Speaker 12: Well, yes, I mean that is patently bizarre, right what
Speaker 12: Trump is doing now. Look, the reality is there's no
Speaker 12: one sitting at home in America right now. I mean,
Speaker 12: I know it's the middle of the night, but there's
Speaker 12: no one sitting at home in America going, Am I
Speaker 12: going to vote for Trump or Harris? If you're voting
Speaker 12: on a policy point of view, or you're just in
Speaker 12: team Red or team Blue, you've already decided that you're
Speaker 12: going to vote and who you're going to vote for.
Speaker 12: You've got a cohort of people who don't know whether
Speaker 12: they're going to vote or not. You're not going to
Speaker 12: win them over on policy because they've had a long
Speaker 12: time to work out what the candidate's policies are. The
Speaker 12: game that Trump is playing now is to get those
Speaker 12: who are left behind, or those who are not necessarily
Speaker 12: going to go out and vote, to go and vote.
Speaker 12: He can't appeal to them on policy. He appeals to
Speaker 12: them by being Donald Trump and saying, look, come on,
Speaker 12: you've got to come out and vote. He's being an entertainer.
Speaker 12: That's what he's doing now, because that's the last ditch
Speaker 12: effort to get extra votes in that ballot box because
Speaker 12: talking policy now ain't going to.
Speaker 3: Change it because it cuts through the more outrageous the
Speaker 3: more his comments get played. Want to get final predictions
Speaker 3: from both of you. Bronwin, what do you think? How
Speaker 3: is this election going to go?
Speaker 2: I think Trump will win.
Speaker 11: And I think I don't think it'll take forever to
Speaker 11: find out either.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Hayla yep?
Speaker 12: I think it'll be Trump. Look as to whether we
Speaker 12: know tomorrow and night are in the next few days,
Speaker 12: who knows, But I suspect there is still a strong,
Speaker 12: silent Trump vote out there that we haven't seen much
Speaker 12: in the polling, and that he will do better than
Speaker 12: the polls have told us.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know whether what factoring in.
Speaker 9: None of us know.
Speaker 11: We're told this still on a knife edge because people
Speaker 11: will repeat it at nitem, but we don't know how
Speaker 11: much those polls have actually been used as campaigning tools
Speaker 11: because many of them belong and are affiliated to political movements.
Speaker 11: So I think there are I think it's been dishonest
Speaker 11: a lot of those polls, and I think the shy
Speaker 11: voter is still a factor.
Speaker 3: I actually speak about that phenomenon, the shy voter with
Speaker 3: Miranda Devine a bit later, and she says it's now
Speaker 3: the frightened Trump voter.
Speaker 4: As opposed to the shy voter.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you both about domestic politics now.
Speaker 3: It has actually been a full week since the Prime
Speaker 3: Minister Anthony Alberezi had a press conference. Now the opposition
Speaker 3: isn't going hard in question time on the Quantus upgrades
Speaker 3: scandal because they've had a few issues of their own.
Speaker 3: But clearly he's still worried about it. Otherwise he would
Speaker 3: be fronting the media. What do you think, Brnwin, Well,
Speaker 3: he's in a dilemma, isn't he dead? He spun his
Speaker 3: boy from Struggle Street done good. I understand what the
Speaker 3: ordinary people are going through. And then he's cozied up
Speaker 3: with Alan Joyce and we've had the upgrades, and we've
Speaker 3: had the support for the Yes case.
Speaker 11: We've bought the four point three million dollar house, which
Speaker 11: tells a lot of people you've lost touch.
Speaker 4: You may have started off.
Speaker 11: Here and this was your story, but you have now
Speaker 11: moved away from us. And I think that's going to
Speaker 11: be very difficult for him to shift, because that is
Speaker 11: something that mister Dutton can really hone in on. It's
Speaker 11: a message that will resonate with a lot of people
Speaker 11: who are working hard, not being able to pay their mortgage.
Speaker 9: And then we've got the.
Speaker 11: Snake charmer telling us it's all wonderful, really, it's all fixed,
Speaker 11: it's all going to be roses on the way ahead
Speaker 11: when they know it's not for them. So that's the
Speaker 11: biggest dilemma I think they've got with that problem, the
Speaker 11: fact Transport Minister he's seems to have perhaps been in
Speaker 11: breach of the Ministerial Code and the Qatar decision thrown
Speaker 11: in for good measure.
Speaker 3: A lot of questions still on the guitar decision and
Speaker 3: whether he spoke to anyone.
Speaker 4: In Quantus or not. Caleb.
Speaker 3: I think Albertiz is messaging that we've heard this week
Speaker 3: that the worst of the cost of living crisis is behind.
Speaker 3: Australia is incredibly dangerous. People see him the cliff Top mansion,
Speaker 3: they hear about the upgrades, they hear him saying everyone's
Speaker 3: doing fine, when the reality isn't the case, as we
Speaker 3: heard from the IRBA governor today.
Speaker 12: I mean, he can spin it any way he wants,
Speaker 12: but has anyone seen their power bill go down in
Speaker 12: the last month. Has anyone seen their grocery bill go
Speaker 12: down in the last month. Has anyone seen their petrol
Speaker 12: bill go down in the last month? If you look
Speaker 12: at the markers, actually petrel has been a little lower recently,
Speaker 12: but still if you go and fill up today, it'll
Speaker 12: be two dollars and say since But if you look
Speaker 12: at the markers for inflation, as in, if you break
Speaker 12: it down to the products that have been going up
Speaker 12: and down, it is the essentials that have continued to increase.
Speaker 12: Other parts of the economy have subtracted, but the essentials
Speaker 12: have not. And that's what the cost of living crisis
Speaker 12: is about. That's what people are paying for every day
Speaker 12: until there is an interest rate cut, which of course
Speaker 12: we learned today there's not going to be one any.
Speaker 4: Time, probably not going to even happen before until we're
Speaker 4: on the next right election.
Speaker 12: He can spin it however he wants, but people won't.
Speaker 11: Buch Right, We've got to go think that cut's going
Speaker 11: to help him all that much.
Speaker 3: I just don't think there will be one before the
Speaker 3: next election. Browan Bishop Kaylebond. We'll see you, of course
Speaker 3: at ten o'clock.
Speaker 4: Pleasure now, still to.
Speaker 3: Calm the ABC finally admits that a doctored video to
Speaker 3: accuse Heston Russell of war crimes. Well, a decorated military
Speaker 3: commander will be on the show. Plus, Morada Devine joins
Speaker 3: me from New York, saying the media treatment of Trump
Speaker 3: has been even harsher than at the last election when
Speaker 3: they buried the Hunter laptop story. That's after this quick break,
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Well, the the US election is mere hours away.
Speaker 3: New York Post and Daily Telegraph columnist Miranda Devine joined
Speaker 3: me a little earlier to discuss the blatant media bias
Speaker 3: against Trump, her prediction for the outcome, and how the
Speaker 3: result will impact us here in Australia. Have a look,
Speaker 3: Miranda Devine, so great to see you again. Congratulations on
Speaker 3: your new book. And you've, of course had Steve Bannon there.
Speaker 3: He was just released from prison. We keep hearing this
Speaker 3: line from Kamala Harris that Trump is going to put
Speaker 3: his political enemies in prison, but really we've seen the
Speaker 3: precise opposite. We've seen the jailing of key Trump figures.
Speaker 3: Isn't this subverting democracy in the same way that the
Speaker 3: Democrats accused Trump of doing?
Speaker 4: On January the sixth, one hundred percent.
Speaker 13: And in fact, what you've heard from the Democrats, and
Speaker 13: they're very successfully cemented this narrative around the world and
Speaker 13: in half of America, is that it's actually the.
Speaker 9: Republicans and Trump who is.
Speaker 13: An authoritarian who's going to throw his political opponents in
Speaker 13: jail and use the military to try and keep power.
Speaker 13: What you're actually seeing is that there are Trump advisors
Speaker 13: who've gone to jail. Steve Batten, you just mentioned, he
Speaker 13: spent four months in jail in a federal jail, which
Speaker 13: is not a nice place to be, for defying a
Speaker 13: subpoena by Nancy Pelosi, the most vindictive and probably powerful
Speaker 13: Democrat of the last decade.
Speaker 9: She was Speaker of the House, and she set.
Speaker 13: Up this bogus January sixth committee which had, you know,
Speaker 13: the only Republicans on it were Trump deranged Republicans like
Speaker 13: Liz Cheney, the daughter of Dick Cheney, the Iraq War warmonger.
Speaker 2: So that was a real.
Speaker 13: Star chamber, and Steve Bannon got legal advice saying that
Speaker 13: he didn't have to go and give evidence to this
Speaker 13: committee because it was not properly constituted, because it didn't
Speaker 13: have the right amount of Republicans and Democrats. His legal advice,
Speaker 13: I guess didn't stand up in a court of law,
Speaker 13: because he was then charged with contempt of Congress and
Speaker 13: sent to jail. There are other Trump staffers and Trump
Speaker 13: supporters who've been sent to jail or just as Donald
Speaker 13: Trump has been subjected to law fair from various Democrat
Speaker 13: jurisdictions around the country, including federally and in New York,
Speaker 13: his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani is also been bankrupted, sued,
Speaker 13: you know, disbarred, hauled over the coals.
Speaker 9: And this is all just seems.
Speaker 13: To be retribution against anybody who supports Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Miranda.
Speaker 3: At the last presidential election, your Hunter Biden laptop scoop
Speaker 3: was buried by the mainstream media. This time around, do
Speaker 3: you think the media has been any fairer?
Speaker 9: Actually, it's been worse.
Speaker 13: I mean, there hasn't been as egregious and obvious an
Speaker 13: incident as the censorship of the New York Post and
Speaker 13: our Hunter Biden laptop stories. But every day you're seeing
Speaker 13: another sort of sign of injustice and partiality.
Speaker 9: From sort of big media.
Speaker 13: Just the other night we had on Saturday Night Live,
Speaker 13: you had Kamala Harris appeared very soft sort of performance,
Speaker 13: and there were all sorts of other sort of pro Democrat,
Speaker 13: pro Kamela bits and pieces in that show.
Speaker 9: It might have been just a full hour ad for her.
Speaker 13: And there was no reciprocal invitation to Donald Trump. And
Speaker 13: so the Federal Election Commission that's against.
Speaker 9: Their law, their rules.
Speaker 13: There has to be equal time this close to an election,
Speaker 13: and so they had to give Donald Trump equal time.
Speaker 13: And he chose the Sunday night football which is probably
Speaker 13: more viewed, and he got a free ad on the football.
Speaker 3: Look, we're now hours away from Americans voting. The polls
Speaker 3: are very close. The reports are that the race is deadlocked,
Speaker 3: although Trump does appear to be slightly ahead in the
Speaker 3: seven battleground states. Miranda, how are you reading this crucial contest.
Speaker 13: Look, my gut tells me that Donald Trump will win.
Speaker 13: But I've been wrong before. I was wrong in twenty twenty. Look,
Speaker 13: it's a very difficult thing to gauge. What I will
Speaker 13: say is that Pennsylvania is probably the most crucial state.
Speaker 9: It has nineteen electoral.
Speaker 13: Votes, the most of all those other battleground states. And
Speaker 13: so you know, the adage is that if Donald Trump
Speaker 13: wins Pennsylvania, he wins.
Speaker 9: And so I've been.
Speaker 13: To Pennsylvania a couple of times during the campaign and
Speaker 13: quite recently, and there really was a distinct pro Trump
Speaker 13: atmosphere in Well. For instance, I went to a penn
Speaker 13: State game and a lot of young students gen z
Speaker 13: is I guess women, young women. They were very keen
Speaker 13: to wear MAGA hats and to talk about how they
Speaker 13: were voting, and they'd registered, et.
Speaker 9: Cetera, and they're going to vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 13: So and then you know, even in Pittsburgh, which was
Speaker 13: a sort of a more difficult, more Democrat, went went
Speaker 13: heavily for Biden. They I talked to some people there
Speaker 13: and they were quite positive. They said, people Trump supporters
Speaker 13: are more inclined to put their signs out this time
Speaker 13: than they did last time. I don't know what that
Speaker 13: means really. So Pennsylvania I think is looking quite good.
Speaker 13: It's neck and neck in the polls, but honestly, who knows.
Speaker 13: I think Trump is in a better shape than he
Speaker 13: was in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty in terms of
Speaker 13: the national poll, which doesn't really matter, but it is
Speaker 13: an indication of how well he'll do in the battleground states.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the critical point, isn't it. People
Speaker 3: voting for Kamala it will be mostly an anti Trump
Speaker 3: vote because she hasn't actually articulated any of her policy
Speaker 3: positions in a clear way, and she's avoided so much scrutiny.
Speaker 4: But Maradija's finally.
Speaker 3: My feeling is that this is one of the most
Speaker 3: critical elections in recent American history, with so much at
Speaker 3: stake on a global level, the rise of our enemies.
Speaker 3: They're now working together. It really matters now who the
Speaker 3: leader of the free world is, doesn't it?
Speaker 9: Absolutely?
Speaker 13: And I think what we've seen in the Biden years
Speaker 13: is just foreign policy blunder after blunder.
Speaker 9: It's been a disaster.
Speaker 13: Really started early on in his administration with the Bungled
Speaker 13: withdrawal from Afghanistan, and it's continued on like that, their
Speaker 13: sort of foked tongue attitude towards Israel, the Ukraine War,
Speaker 13: which I think Trump's quite right.
Speaker 9: When he says it never would have happened under him.
Speaker 13: You just look at Donald Trump, who is uncontrollable and
Speaker 13: therefore regarded by the Blob, which is the sort of
Speaker 13: Kabbal of the Cia, the Pentagon, the State Department, The
Speaker 13: Blob is the name that was given by the Obama people,
Speaker 13: But they have a pretty malign and opaque foreign policy agenda,
Speaker 13: which the Trump just ignored, and he just treated foreign
Speaker 13: policy like a property developer from New York and just
Speaker 13: on first principles and using common sense and logic.
Speaker 9: And so under him, Iran was on its knees. It
Speaker 9: was broke.
Speaker 13: It was unable to fund proxies to attack Israel as
Speaker 13: they did last October seven. Putin was in his box.
Speaker 13: He didn't invade any of his neighbors like he did
Speaker 13: under Biden and under Barack Obama, both of whom were
Speaker 13: puppets of the Blob, and Isis, for instance, was vanquished
Speaker 13: North Korea. Barack Obama told Donald Trump at the beginning
Speaker 13: of his administration that the biggest threat the world faced
Speaker 13: and that he would have to deal with was North
Speaker 13: Korea setting off all these nuclear tests. And Donald Trump
Speaker 13: was mocked mercilessly for what he did. But his bromance
Speaker 13: with Kim Jong wun and calling him Little Rocketman and
Speaker 13: so on, and it was unorthodox, but it worked. He
Speaker 13: put him in his box, and we had the Abraham Accords,
Speaker 13: which gave the promise of peace in the Middle East.
Speaker 13: It was a great success Donald Trump's foreign policy as
Speaker 13: well as his domestic economic policy.
Speaker 9: And now I think it's a really clear choice.
Speaker 13: And for Australians looking at America, I think that they
Speaker 13: should view a Trump presidency as a positive for Australia
Speaker 13: and for Australia's security.
Speaker 3: Miranda Devine, terrific to see you as always, Thanks so much.
Speaker 3: All right, coming up after the break, Why the ABC
Speaker 3: has been dragged to kicking and screaming into an apology
Speaker 3: over doctoring a video in reports accusing Heston Russell of
Speaker 3: war crimes, Plus concerns Albanezi will keep rates higher for
Speaker 3: longer with his cash splash design to win the election.
Speaker 4: That's after this break. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Well, the ABC has today been forced into a humiliating
Speaker 3: apology after finally admitting that it edited fake gunshots into
Speaker 3: video footage, and it did this in reports that wrongly
Speaker 3: accused Heston Russell.
Speaker 4: Of war crimes.
Speaker 3: We've been covering this heavily on my show and today
Speaker 3: here was the ABC's director of News, Justin Stevens insenate estimates.
Speaker 14: We sincerely regret and apologize those editing errors in the
Speaker 14: video clips, including two members of the second Commando Regiment.
Speaker 14: And that's why we removed the video when it was
Speaker 14: brought to our attension.
Speaker 3: And you'll remember that last time the ABC officials said
Speaker 3: they weren't apologizing to Heston Russell despite losing the defamation
Speaker 3: case against him.
Speaker 4: It's just so appalling.
Speaker 3: Let's bring in now Sky News contributor Gary Hargrave and
Speaker 3: former RSL New South Wales president James Brown.
Speaker 4: Welcome to you both. Gary.
Speaker 3: This is one of the most egregious cases of journalism,
Speaker 3: of doctoring a video footage in order to wrongly accuse
Speaker 3: someone of war crimes.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the most grubby journalism.
Speaker 3: And yet the ABC have behaved appallingly throughout.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and they say there's nothing to see here. They
Speaker 15: won't name who edited the whole thing. They said it
Speaker 15: was unintentional, it was accidental. I mean, you know, the
Speaker 15: dog ate their homework. This is not good enough. They cannot,
Speaker 15: for the moment, for even a moment, pretend that they
Speaker 15: are impartial. The idea of actually throwing a bit more
Speaker 15: lard on the fire while they're cooking the sausage to
Speaker 15: make it sizzle more to sell the story is appalling
Speaker 15: stuff and it really isn't the way the ABC was.
Speaker 15: I worked there in nineteen eighty seven, a long time ago.
Speaker 15: It was a younger bloke. My hair was very brown.
Speaker 15: But you know, let's face it, you just don't do
Speaker 15: that stuff. You've got to respect your viewers better than that.
Speaker 15: You just can't make stuff up, Shari.
Speaker 4: That's the problem, James.
Speaker 3: We know that veteran suicide has been a really sad,
Speaker 3: tragic issue.
Speaker 4: We just had the Royal Commission and.
Speaker 3: We've seen that veterans say it's this type of pursuit
Speaker 3: by the ME that has contributed to mental illness.
Speaker 16: You would think the National Broadcaster would set the bar
Speaker 16: extraordinarily high before it points at someone who's put their
Speaker 16: life on the line for the country on multiple occasions
Speaker 16: and accuses.
Speaker 1: Them of being involved in a murder.
Speaker 16: They didn't do that here, and apology has been far
Speaker 16: too long in the coming.
Speaker 1: They've dug in.
Speaker 16: They're protecting their own they're protecting a journalist who was
Speaker 16: trying to sell a book on this at the same
Speaker 16: time and had an interest in.
Speaker 1: Sexing the story up. They've done the wrong thing by
Speaker 1: Heston Russell, and they really need to apologize to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, and that apology came far too late.
Speaker 3: Now the IBA has left interest rates on holds in
Speaker 3: its cup day meeting today the cash rate remains at
Speaker 3: four point three five percent and it's going to likely
Speaker 3: stay this way until next year.
Speaker 4: Here was Governor Michelle Bullock today.
Speaker 17: Public demand is offsetting a lot of weakness in the
Speaker 17: private sectorm side. So we still, with those circumstances, have
Speaker 17: inflation coming back to target in a reasonable way. My
Speaker 17: reading when I speak privately to the Treasurer and when
Speaker 17: I hear him speak on television and radio, is that
Speaker 17: he's fully aware of the inflationary implications of his own policies.
Speaker 3: Well, he may be aware, but is the Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: Because we saw Gary that that Alban Eazy just announced
Speaker 3: on Sunday sixteen billion dollar pledge to help, you know,
Speaker 3: basically buy young votes from the Greens. So do you
Speaker 3: think the Prime Minister actually gets the message that he's
Speaker 3: got to stop spending in order to bring down inflation,
Speaker 3: in order to cut interest rates.
Speaker 15: No, and he doesn't care. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: The premise has lost complete touch with the reality.
Speaker 15: Not that I think it was awfully close to the
Speaker 15: economic reality of this, that they're feeding inflation with every
Speaker 15: announcement they make. And in fact, I think the cruel
Speaker 15: trick on a lot of university students with the hexsteat
Speaker 15: is that they're actually saying to them the threshold's gone up,
Speaker 15: so you don't have to pay off your HEX debt
Speaker 15: until you hit over sixty something sixty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 15: I mean that in itself is going to drive the
Speaker 15: problem Shari until I actually have say, an interest holiday
Speaker 15: on the debt.
Speaker 1: Young people who want.
Speaker 15: To get ahead, get the debt out of their their
Speaker 15: personal economic circumstance, maybe borrow money at a later stage
Speaker 15: for a house. They're not going to be able to
Speaker 15: do that, so they're going to have a moratorium on
Speaker 15: the interest that's being charged. But right now the government
Speaker 15: doesn't care. They just want to win the election. They
Speaker 15: don't care how they wrecked the economy in the process.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my concern, James, that we're going to be
Speaker 3: seeing over the next few months until the federal election,
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister making a lot of spending promises, throwing
Speaker 3: a lot of cash around because you know, he just
Speaker 3: doesn't he's putting politics ahead of it over the need
Speaker 3: to bring down rates and bring down inflation.
Speaker 16: The Prime Minister's got the cash gun funded by the taxpayer,
Speaker 16: locked and loaded and ready to spray.
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen it in a lot of areas.
Speaker 16: We saw that decision on Sunday, which really just moves
Speaker 16: that sixteen billion dollar debt to other tax payer. On
Speaker 16: Monday morning, we found out that the government doesn't have
Speaker 16: seven billion dollars it needs to pay for military communications satellites.
Speaker 16: Ed Hughesick goes to lunch with a quantum computer company
Speaker 16: in the United States. The taxpayer comes away with a
Speaker 16: billion dollar bill. The National Reconstruction Fund is pumping hundreds
Speaker 16: of millions and billions of dollars into futuristic industries like forestry.
Speaker 16: This is labor giving money to the people that keep
Speaker 16: it in power. The IMF, the World Bank have all
Speaker 16: said that inflation rates in Australia are far too high.
Speaker 16: Michelle Bullock has come as close to saying that the
Speaker 16: government is out of control on spending as she can
Speaker 16: without losing her job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite extraordinary comments today. I mean she was
Speaker 3: being careful. Yeah, Gary, do you want to add something there?
Speaker 15: Just simply that the narrative from the Reserve Bank included
Speaker 15: the idea that they might not get to lower interest
Speaker 15: rates till May next year, which is when the elections due.
Speaker 15: So you know, I think they're actually saying that if
Speaker 15: you don't run the election, if you run the election early,
Speaker 15: there's no interest rate reduction. So I thought that was
Speaker 15: also an interesting little sidebar comment from Michelle. But and
Speaker 15: she has she's got as far as she can go
Speaker 15: to keep the gig.
Speaker 1: She's got to sort of pull it back a bit.
Speaker 15: But I think we got the messies Will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been surprisingly strong, there's no question about that. Now,
Speaker 3: as we've been speaking about us heads to the polls
Speaker 3: in the next few hours, we're told, according to the polling.
Speaker 4: The races neck and neck.
Speaker 3: Now we've seen the former Prime Minister Tony Abbott come
Speaker 3: out and say that there's no need for Australia to
Speaker 3: worry about a Trump presidency. Abbott says he was a
Speaker 3: good president for Australia last time and there's no reason
Speaker 3: to think he wouldn't be again.
Speaker 4: James.
Speaker 3: We are seeing the Albanezy government trying to make in roads.
Speaker 3: We've seen Penny Wong meeting with Mike Pompeo. But it
Speaker 3: would definitely be easier for them if it's a Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris presidency.
Speaker 1: No question, no question.
Speaker 16: They would have been to the same camps and the
Speaker 16: same conferences with many of the people that would end up.
Speaker 1: In a Harris administration.
Speaker 16: I mean President Trump, some of the people who's likely
Speaker 16: to appoint to senior roles in the Pentagon and the
Speaker 16: State Department, people that I know personally, who I think
Speaker 16: would have the best interest of Australia at heart after
Speaker 16: they do their duty to America, and who understand the relationship.
Speaker 4: Well, you've worked closely in US politics.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 16: Look, I've met President Trump. I've met a number of
Speaker 16: the people around him. I know how they think. We
Speaker 16: don't have to be terrified about the kind of administration
Speaker 16: that they would run.
Speaker 1: It would be attuned to Australia's interests.
Speaker 16: The President understands the importance of Australia internationally. I think
Speaker 16: there's only really one area where we would see some
Speaker 16: potential friction, and that's on Ukraine and Russia.
Speaker 1: But largely the President would be supportive of what we're
Speaker 1: trying to do in our part of the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Gary Hargrave James Brown. Great to see
Speaker 3: you both tonight, Thank you very much for your insights,
Speaker 3: and then still to come on the show. As I said,
Speaker 3: just hours away from the polls, there are already fraud
Speaker 3: claims in a critical battleground state. Plus Nancy Pelosi hits
Speaker 3: out at Trump's mental acuity after ignoring Biden's problems for years.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get the latest from Washington with Annalise
Speaker 3: Nielsen after the break. All right, well, before we wrap
Speaker 3: up the show tonight, let's get a final check in
Speaker 3: on the ground in the US with our Washington correspondent
Speaker 3: Annalise Nilsen. I spoke to her a little earlier about
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi's final insult, fraudulent voter registrations, and Kamala Harris's
Speaker 3: star studded lineup here she is Analie Nielsen.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi has had a final jab at Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: saying that his brain is deteriorating. Do these kind of
Speaker 3: insults work in the final days of the campaign.
Speaker 7: Well, look, it works for the Democrat base. But this
Speaker 7: isn't just Nancy Pelosi. This has been a lot of
Speaker 7: Democrats using this attack line, And the reason I think
Speaker 7: it's so significant is they've never acknowledged there's any issue
Speaker 7: with Joe Biden. Even when he stepped side, it was
Speaker 7: for the good of the party, it was that he
Speaker 7: was polling better. They've never acknowledged that there's an issue there,
Speaker 7: and they still haven't. He's still the president of the
Speaker 7: United States, and so I think it's a misfire in
Speaker 7: that Americans have really lost trust and how that issue
Speaker 7: has been covered, That the media didn't cover that he
Speaker 7: was having issues as he sought to run again, and
Speaker 7: the fact Kamala Harris has only been in this race
Speaker 7: for a few months.
Speaker 2: Because of that.
Speaker 7: So I think it is an alarming thing that they're
Speaker 7: focusing on, and I think it's worth calling out as
Speaker 7: we come into these final days of the election that
Speaker 7: they have been using this attack line to say that
Speaker 7: they think Donald Trump's in cognitive decline. Whatever you think
Speaker 7: of the guy, if you think he's nuts when you
Speaker 7: look at him.
Speaker 2: He can get up there for hours.
Speaker 7: He does weave, as he calls it, he goes off
Speaker 7: on tangents, But it is not the same kind of
Speaker 7: thing that we're seeing with Joe Biden, where he's looking
Speaker 7: like he's confused, he has.
Speaker 2: Issues walking and freezes.
Speaker 7: It is a completely different thing, and Somocrats to now
Speaker 7: be pulling this out, I think is worth paying attention to.
Speaker 3: Look, there's an issue in Pennsylvania where there are concerns
Speaker 3: about fraudulent voter registrations and ballot applications. How concerning is
Speaker 3: this and how will it be dealt with?
Speaker 7: So, look, this is one of the really interesting challenges
Speaker 7: of this election as they've been putting more effort into
Speaker 7: getting people to cast.
Speaker 2: Ballots early and by mail.
Speaker 7: One of the things that they do in some states,
Speaker 7: and remember in the US, election rules are set in
Speaker 7: each state differently. They're administered by the state, the Secretary
Speaker 7: of States and the local counties. And so what they
Speaker 7: do is they hand out these forms for voter registration.
Speaker 7: Anyone can fill them out and put them in.
Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily mean you have a balance.
Speaker 7: So what they found in Lancaster County was twenty five
Speaker 7: hundred were flagged for potential fraudulent applications to get a ballot.
Speaker 7: So that doesn't mean that there's a ballot that's been
Speaker 7: put in the box, that there's an issue, but it
Speaker 7: does mean that someone was trying to get their hands
Speaker 7: on fake ones. So they found that a certain percentage
Speaker 7: of these have been found to be fraudulent. They do
Speaker 7: have to go through them. Sometimes people just.
Speaker 2: Don't fill them out correctly.
Speaker 7: But this is the concern that this could be happening
Speaker 7: at county levels, and when we're talking about these election
Speaker 7: results being as tight as we anticipate them to with
Speaker 7: the polling as it is now, we could be talking
Speaker 7: about a state being decided by just a few thousand votes.
Speaker 7: It happened last election that key battleground states were decided
Speaker 7: by ten thousand votes, and so these issues can be consequential.
Speaker 7: What we're seeing different this time is that the Republican
Speaker 7: Party especially has been very on the front foot about this.
Speaker 7: Laura Trump today has said that there are two hundred
Speaker 7: and thirty thousand poll watchers and poll workers on behalf
Speaker 7: of the Republican Party keeping an eye on how these
Speaker 7: ballots are cast, and that's just as important in America
Speaker 7: as who you're casting the ballot for.
Speaker 3: Annalise, We've seen a lot of celebrities come out for
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, particularly in recent days.
Speaker 4: Does this resonate with American voters.
Speaker 7: Well, look, it does work with younger voters in particular.
Speaker 2: We know that they can be quite fickle.
Speaker 7: They can have a strong opinion but perhaps not end
Speaker 7: up casting a ballot at the end of the day
Speaker 7: in a country with votings not compulsory. But the key
Speaker 7: thing it does is get them unearned media. And so
Speaker 7: this is the concept where they get a celebrity out
Speaker 7: there and they get Good Morning America covering it the
Speaker 7: next morning is their lead instead of a policy announcement,
Speaker 7: and that's still good for the campaign. They get social
Speaker 7: media traction, they get TikTok videos, and younger people especially
Speaker 7: become more engaged with it.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing it does is just kind
Speaker 2: of normalize it.
Speaker 7: If you're someone who's sitting on the fence and your
Speaker 7: favorite celebrities are all hanging out with Kamala Harris, you
Speaker 7: start to just become normalized to her presence. And especially
Speaker 7: important for someone who hasn't been on the campaign trail
Speaker 7: that long. A few months ago, she was still running
Speaker 7: to BVP, So I think it all helps her on
Speaker 7: that front in saying that not many people will ever
Speaker 7: say to you, oh, I wasn't going to vote for
Speaker 7: Kamala Harris, but then Taylor Swift told me too, so
Speaker 7: I did.
Speaker 2: But you never know.
Speaker 7: Some of those younger voters. She does have a pretty
Speaker 7: devoted following.
Speaker 4: And Alie, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: You have to worry if there are voters who are
Speaker 3: taking voting advice from celebrities. But I suppose if there
Speaker 3: are sound young voters and they don't know which way
Speaker 3: they're going, then they might just follow Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, you've got.
Speaker 3: Big figures like Elon Musk and Joe Rogan just today
Speaker 3: as well came out to.
Speaker 4: Endorse Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Now, just before I go in around, you may have
Speaker 3: seen this news that a courageous female student has been
Speaker 3: detained after walking in the street in her underwear. Now,
Speaker 3: she was initially disciplined by the Morality police for not
Speaker 3: wearing a head covering and so in protest at around
Speaker 3: strict Islamic dress code, she's stripped down to her underwear.
Speaker 3: She was arrested and she's now reported to be in
Speaker 3: a psychiatric ward. Now we see this constant obsession with
Speaker 3: ISA in the media and at university students, but you
Speaker 3: have to ask why they aren't protesting this shocking treatment
Speaker 3: of women in nations like Iran and likewise. You probably
Speaker 3: haven't heard that Benjamin Ettna who has offered millions of
Speaker 3: dollars to those who can safely release the hostages. And
Speaker 3: it's Amus who is killing off yet another ceasefire hostage deal.
Speaker 3: All right, make sure you tune in tomorrow night at
Speaker 3: eight o'clock. We'll have the full details on the US election.
Speaker 3: Right now, here's Paul Murray.