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Speaker 1: Apoche production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: Muscle comments in.

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Speaker 3: This episode, I speak with former Born star and pr

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Speaker 3: to the candy man Belinda Gavin.

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Speaker 1: But I could get a sex scene in one shot,

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Speaker 1: so two dicks. First scene. I was just like, do

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Speaker 1: you know what you got yourself into? Like fucking acting,

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Speaker 1: you fucking idiot. I don't know if there was a bush,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I was like, I could see your

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Speaker 1: whole pussy and I'm like, you know, I've lived my

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Speaker 1: whole life in the adult industry, American Gladiators. So I

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Speaker 1: went from Triple X, TOPG. Yeah, and even.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's let's begin with a little intake on you,

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Speaker 4: like growing up and how you got to where you

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Speaker 4: are right now, that's a story and yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: so we get to know you as a person.

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Speaker 1: So born in Sydney, actually born darling Hurst. It's at

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Speaker 1: Margaret's Hospital. Raised on the Gold Coast. We actually moved

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Speaker 1: to Melbourne for a tiny little bit. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I was probably five six something like that. Then we

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Speaker 1: moved to the Gold Coast. So spent most of my

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Speaker 1: Grade four to Grade twelve on the Gold Coast. As

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Speaker 1: a kid. I was always intrigued by horses from age five,

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Speaker 1: so I rode English most of the time. I was

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Speaker 1: a bit of a dad devil there and took it

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Speaker 1: to pretty big extremes, meaning with horses. Yeah yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I was the youngest of that crew that I

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Speaker 1: rode with, and so they would dare me to just

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Speaker 1: do crazy things. So I learned what was called a seat,

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Speaker 1: so I can sit on anything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get to that later.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. It gave me a good seat for lots of riding.

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Speaker 1: I became a champion in a few different environments. Then

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Speaker 1: I ended up going to Toowomba outside as soon as

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Speaker 1: I finished high school because I was one of my

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Speaker 1: best friends. We both ended up in primary school teaching actually,

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Speaker 1: and she said, oh, you should come to Womba and

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Speaker 1: go to YI. I was like, well, right, no worries.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to like help somebody who did

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Speaker 1: fashion shows. I was kind of a model at the time,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I was always told I was short,

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Speaker 1: and I was too fat, and I was this and

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Speaker 1: I was that. But anyway, I went off to Womba.

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Speaker 1: That was probably one of the best years of my

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Speaker 1: I ended up modeling a lot more lots of commercial staff.

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Speaker 1: I was not like editorial on the front pages of magazines,

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Speaker 1: but that didn't bother me because I was still making

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen hour as a fit model for

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Speaker 1: swimsuits for you know, even workout where back then shoe model,

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Speaker 1: hand model, fit model like Q size ten. Then quite

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Speaker 1: soon after that my booker from I was with Buckingham's

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Speaker 1: and then Vivian's and off in Brisbane, and then my

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Speaker 1: So my booker was in Sydney with Chadwick's at the

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Speaker 1: We went together. We arrived in the riots. So we arrived.

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Speaker 1: As we arrived, we we're flying through Hawaii and as

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Speaker 1: We were like, what the fuck are we doing? Oh

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Speaker 1: So we go to the school and there's like a

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Speaker 1: it was expensive there. I mean this is known too,

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Speaker 1: it was funding him. But I didn't have anyone funding me.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, we have to find a place.

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Speaker 1: We have to find a place to live, to move

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Speaker 1: We had to get to bed and so we drove down.

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Speaker 1: more bed area. So we're in a taxi. There's a

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Speaker 1: So we got out. We came around. It must have

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Speaker 1: so like I said, so I immediately got a job.

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Speaker 1: That encouraged us to lose our accent, and then we

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Speaker 1: I also went and got social Security cards straight away.

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Speaker 1: So this is back in the day where I didn't

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Speaker 1: he got a crush on me, and he'd throw me

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Speaker 1: I learned to bartend there after hours, so because everything

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Speaker 1: Later I realized the place changed hand and I became

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Speaker 1: And then someone else said they had. They were managing

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Speaker 1: I was with an agency that did a lot of

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Speaker 1: didn't like it. Actually, I physically couldn't do it because

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00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,801
Speaker 1: she was begging me. She goes, I'm going to get

426
00:22:44,801 --> 00:22:47,321
Speaker 1: in trouble from Playboy. They need an open leg shot.

427
00:22:47,561 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: So I had to like sit and do Sharon Stony

428
00:22:49,721 --> 00:22:52,561
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Like I was like, my legs just wouldn't.

429
00:22:53,041 --> 00:22:55,761
Speaker 1: I don't know. They just wouldn't open. I just was like, not,

430
00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:59,321
Speaker 1: it's just it's still a bit like yeah, it's still

431
00:22:59,321 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: a bit me for me. But anyway, the producer, one

432
00:23:03,241 --> 00:23:06,321
Speaker 1: of the female producers that was on the show, she said,

433
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,321
Speaker 1: you'd be perfect from one of my husband's to TV

434
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,641
Speaker 1: shows or movies. We're shooting in my Hawaii here, call

435
00:23:14,761 --> 00:23:16,761
Speaker 1: him and send him your details. Anyway, so I ended

436
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: up shooting in Hawaii as well, and then met this

437
00:23:20,281 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: crazy other softcore erotic movie star called Amy Lindsay and

438
00:23:25,801 --> 00:23:29,281
Speaker 1: we was terrorized them for years. But I still Amy

439
00:23:29,321 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: taught me she had rules. I'd go in and go,

440
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: all right, cool, let's go, and she'd go, no, you

441
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: can't kiss me, you can't touch me, you can't do this,

442
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: you can't do that. I was like, let's just just

443
00:23:40,681 --> 00:23:43,521
Speaker 1: get it on, you know what I mean, like forget

444
00:23:43,561 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah. I was very lucky because you know,

445
00:23:48,201 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: most of the people in the industry were professional. But

446
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: I did have one incident. The day still is quite

447
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: weird to me, and recently I looked at the footage

448
00:23:59,761 --> 00:24:02,001
Speaker 1: and there was a guy and he was he was

449
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,001
Speaker 1: not really a pro. He was kind of a ring in,

450
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: like somebody that we usually you worked with the same people.

451
00:24:06,721 --> 00:24:09,001
Speaker 1: And I mean I was shooting a lot. I was shooting,

452
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, easily, one to three movies a month, a lot, traveling, still, rodeoing.

453
00:24:15,961 --> 00:24:17,481
Speaker 2: This is soft porn, soft porn.

454
00:24:17,521 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, most of the time, I was a one shot wonder,

455
00:24:20,041 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: meaning back then they had tape, but I could get

456
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: a sex scene in one shot, so't they didn't have

457
00:24:25,481 --> 00:24:27,321
Speaker 1: to repeat it. They didn't have to really tell me

458
00:24:27,321 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: what to do. I knew she'd explained, or the director

459
00:24:29,761 --> 00:24:32,281
Speaker 1: would explain to me what to do, and there you go. Also,

460
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,481
Speaker 1: what was happening then porn was starting to cross over

461
00:24:35,721 --> 00:24:41,001
Speaker 1: where porn stars were shooting softcore as well, but it's

462
00:24:41,041 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: pretty heavily dialogued, so some of them were not we're failing.

463
00:24:45,721 --> 00:24:47,561
Speaker 1: I could come in and get my makeup done in

464
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: an hour and learn a script in an hour, so

465
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: I had some advantage over other people. So I get

466
00:24:53,921 --> 00:24:55,281
Speaker 1: a phone call in the morning, Hey can you turn

467
00:24:55,321 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: up on set for movie? Blah blah blah. Yeah, no worries.

468
00:24:57,681 --> 00:25:00,801
Speaker 1: But yeah, the one I mean the one time I

469
00:25:00,921 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: was violated, and I didn't want to be violated because

470
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,041
Speaker 1: there were other times. But the other guy I didn't

471
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: wear a patch, which the patch is like a big

472
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: band aid that you put over your pussy for this

473
00:25:15,001 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: exact reason, which is what I found out, you know.

474
00:25:17,241 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: And he was going down on me and he stuck

475
00:25:20,441 --> 00:25:22,481
Speaker 1: his tongue in my pussy and he's licking my pussy,

476
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can see it in the in

477
00:25:24,921 --> 00:25:29,041
Speaker 1: the thing. I'm just like, ah, but I don't stop.

478
00:25:29,281 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: I just finished the scene, you know what I mean.

479
00:25:31,241 --> 00:25:34,281
Speaker 1: I just complete the scene because I know it's only

480
00:25:34,321 --> 00:25:36,401
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, half an hour max, you know what I mean.

481
00:25:36,441 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: So I'm just like pushing his head away, pushing his

482
00:25:38,281 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: head away, and finished the scene, went home for the day,

483
00:25:41,561 --> 00:25:45,281
Speaker 1: came back the next day. I don't even remember it

484
00:25:45,761 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: passing through my brain, you know what I mean. I

485
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: just thought, what a fuck with? You know, turned back

486
00:25:49,241 --> 00:25:50,561
Speaker 1: up on sat in the next morning, and he came

487
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,881
Speaker 1: and talked to me, and I just lost it at him,

488
00:25:52,921 --> 00:25:54,601
Speaker 1: like lost it, like what the fuck are you doing

489
00:25:54,681 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: talking to me? Fuck offten, It's like what And the

490
00:25:58,001 --> 00:26:00,801
Speaker 1: director came over and said, what's going on? I go, well,

491
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: yesterday he's stuck his tongue in my pussy, and she

492
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,521
Speaker 1: flipped out and was like, what do you mean? Said yeah,

493
00:26:05,521 --> 00:26:07,521
Speaker 1: well he put his you know, we're talking about it.

494
00:26:07,561 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, well you put your tongue in

495
00:26:09,281 --> 00:26:11,641
Speaker 1: my pussy and this is fucking softcore. He goes, oh, well,

496
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: you looked like you wanted it. I'm like, fucking acting,

497
00:26:15,441 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: you fucking idiot, what do you call this? So I

498
00:26:19,521 --> 00:26:22,761
Speaker 1: got sent home and full pay, and but that was

499
00:26:22,801 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: the only time, and then I realized why they were

500
00:26:24,921 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: a band aid. Well, the other reason I realized that

501
00:26:27,281 --> 00:26:30,041
Speaker 1: they were a band aid was I got this check

502
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,201
Speaker 1: for something called too Hot for TV, and I thought, oh,

503
00:26:34,281 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: I wonder what that is. I don't know what that

504
00:26:37,001 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: would be. And then someone said to me, oh, I

505
00:26:39,961 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: saw you in a movie and I could see your

506
00:26:42,961 --> 00:26:46,281
Speaker 1: whole bush. I don't know if there was a bush,

507
00:26:46,321 --> 00:26:47,921
Speaker 1: but you know what. I was like, I could see

508
00:26:47,961 --> 00:26:51,801
Speaker 1: your whole pussy. And I'm like, well, explain to me

509
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: what was going on, because you shouldn't be able to

510
00:26:53,721 --> 00:26:56,321
Speaker 1: see anything. So what they explained to me was the

511
00:26:56,441 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: French movie. So the French movie they had sold it

512
00:26:59,961 --> 00:27:04,281
Speaker 1: to us, like, they couldn't on TV, they couldn't show

513
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: for frontal, but for a DVD release for sure. That

514
00:27:10,001 --> 00:27:13,761
Speaker 1: was a different story. So that's why you wear the patch,

515
00:27:14,321 --> 00:27:16,961
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't show the patch, that would edit that out.

516
00:27:17,001 --> 00:27:18,921
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, like who gives

517
00:27:18,921 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: a fuck? Really, you know what I mean? But now

518
00:27:21,041 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: we're here, you know what I mean. But just the

519
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,921
Speaker 1: way that you kind of find out about it all,

520
00:27:24,961 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: it's like there's no rule book, you know, you have

521
00:27:26,961 --> 00:27:28,961
Speaker 1: to just kind of go through things of your own

522
00:27:29,001 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: accord and set boundaries, be a tough bitch sometimes, like

523
00:27:32,761 --> 00:27:35,601
Speaker 1: my friend Amy was, and set boundaries. But a lot

524
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: of fun, a lot of a lot of you know,

525
00:27:39,201 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: lots of shoots, lots of the whole of two thousands,

526
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, on and off. I would have sometimes I've

527
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,201
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend and they didn't really like that, so.

528
00:27:50,201 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: Didn't meet you. Didn't they know about it before they

529
00:27:51,961 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: meet you.

530
00:27:53,521 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: Problem exactly? Well, you know, sometimes it just wasn't I

531
00:27:57,201 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: would do other movies, and I was still doing music videos.

532
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,761
Speaker 1: I was with an agency in LA that was one

533
00:28:04,761 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: of the all tattooed gay trainees, drag queens, everything. So

534
00:28:10,041 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: they would just kind of hire our whole agency to

535
00:28:13,921 --> 00:28:15,761
Speaker 1: do a bunch of music videos. So we were doing

536
00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:18,321
Speaker 1: all kinds of fun stuff. I was still rodeoing around

537
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: the country coming back black and blue. I mean, they

538
00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: had to cover my tattoos back then, That's how I was,

539
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,801
Speaker 1: and so they may as well just cover some bruises

540
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, I shot in the time thirty

541
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,161
Speaker 1: seven movies, seven TV shows that are on IMDb. There's

542
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: probably a few of them that are not on IMDb

543
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,561
Speaker 1: that never made the cut, but lots and lots of fun.

544
00:28:40,521 --> 00:28:43,401
Speaker 1: And then during that time, so when I was not

545
00:28:43,601 --> 00:28:48,641
Speaker 1: in front of the camera, I Amy Crazy. Amy said, Hey,

546
00:28:48,721 --> 00:28:51,321
Speaker 1: do you want to work production? Some friends of mine

547
00:28:51,361 --> 00:28:56,921
Speaker 1: are shooting porn and they need a PA, like a

548
00:28:57,081 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: production assistant. So a production assistant is like the lowest

549
00:29:01,801 --> 00:29:05,361
Speaker 1: level in the movie making business. I'm like, sure, worries,

550
00:29:05,361 --> 00:29:08,241
Speaker 1: what do we have to do? Yeah? Pick up condoms

551
00:29:09,441 --> 00:29:15,201
Speaker 1: an hand out paptel. Yeah, so that's where I started there. Luckily,

552
00:29:15,281 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: I quickly quickly grew because of my skill levels. I

553
00:29:19,521 --> 00:29:22,081
Speaker 1: mean I've done a lot of production. I'm pretty good

554
00:29:22,081 --> 00:29:24,841
Speaker 1: at organizing things like you know, like that, So I

555
00:29:24,921 --> 00:29:27,841
Speaker 1: went from PA. But we had some funny times as pas.

556
00:29:27,841 --> 00:29:30,921
Speaker 1: I mean one time in Malibu we're shooting and these

557
00:29:30,921 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: were big porn so lots of people. We went to

558
00:29:33,801 --> 00:29:37,841
Speaker 1: the local seven eleven grocery store. We got like, you know,

559
00:29:37,921 --> 00:29:45,841
Speaker 1: slabs of water, about fifty anima, about fifty Douche lube, condoms, cigarettes,

560
00:29:46,121 --> 00:29:49,641
Speaker 1: red Bull. We're just standing in line. This is at

561
00:29:49,641 --> 00:29:53,641
Speaker 1: eight o'clock in the morning too, like, hey, nothing going

562
00:29:53,681 --> 00:29:56,041
Speaker 1: on here. We're just gonna have a really great party,

563
00:29:56,561 --> 00:30:00,561
Speaker 1: you know. So, you know, we'd we'd come off SAT.

564
00:30:00,681 --> 00:30:03,321
Speaker 1: One time we went straight to Mexico. And when you're

565
00:30:03,361 --> 00:30:07,881
Speaker 1: on set you get caught in this world, this adult

566
00:30:07,921 --> 00:30:12,121
Speaker 1: world where really inappropriate things to say and to do

567
00:30:12,361 --> 00:30:15,281
Speaker 1: or normal. So you get back out in real life

568
00:30:15,281 --> 00:30:18,201
Speaker 1: and you know, we've got big dialdos that we brought over,

569
00:30:18,361 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: and these twelve people that are from Texas were just

570
00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:24,921
Speaker 1: like what We're like all clothes off. I'm like, where's

571
00:30:24,921 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: the big guy with the biggest deer? Like who's mine?

572
00:30:28,361 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like these people like, who

573
00:30:30,561 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: the fuck are these people?

574
00:30:31,801 --> 00:30:31,921
Speaker 5: Like?

575
00:30:32,001 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: During the trip was staying in this big house and

576
00:30:34,521 --> 00:30:36,401
Speaker 1: one time late at night there we had big screen

577
00:30:36,441 --> 00:30:39,401
Speaker 1: TV and I was looking, I'm like I think I'm

578
00:30:39,441 --> 00:30:42,121
Speaker 1: about to walk down the stairs in this movie. They're

579
00:30:42,161 --> 00:30:48,241
Speaker 1: like nah, nah, yep, here we go. Three two, Onda,

580
00:30:48,841 --> 00:30:50,881
Speaker 1: you're right, can't walking down the stairs and they were

581
00:30:50,961 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: just like, what the fuck? So yeah, it was always

582
00:30:54,681 --> 00:30:57,121
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, and I quickly moved up to

583
00:30:57,361 --> 00:31:01,921
Speaker 1: production manager for a company called Wicked Pictures with a

584
00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:06,801
Speaker 1: guy who was winning winning AVM at the time, shooting

585
00:31:06,801 --> 00:31:12,601
Speaker 1: with Jessica Drake story Meet Daniels, over all the big,

586
00:31:12,681 --> 00:31:20,761
Speaker 1: big guns, and yeah, I went, you know, film heaps

587
00:31:20,801 --> 00:31:23,321
Speaker 1: of stuff. Probably that he filmed one movie a month,

588
00:31:23,361 --> 00:31:25,641
Speaker 1: so for about a year, year and a half, I

589
00:31:25,641 --> 00:31:28,801
Speaker 1: guess I was shooting with him. And their movies were

590
00:31:28,961 --> 00:31:32,281
Speaker 1: a pretty big budget for porn, so fifteen thousand dollars,

591
00:31:32,321 --> 00:31:35,961
Speaker 1: which was big budget for porn, no longer soft porn.

592
00:31:36,121 --> 00:31:38,841
Speaker 1: But yeah, but still I wasn't. I mean, I was asked,

593
00:31:38,921 --> 00:31:40,001
Speaker 1: you know, do you want to be in the movie?

594
00:31:40,041 --> 00:31:46,081
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Was it my deal? Still not? I

595
00:31:46,121 --> 00:31:48,801
Speaker 1: don't know. I saw I saw some I saw some stuff,

596
00:31:48,881 --> 00:31:51,401
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When I was I think

597
00:31:51,401 --> 00:31:55,521
Speaker 1: that probably my my first or second shoot. There was

598
00:31:55,521 --> 00:31:59,321
Speaker 1: a guy who was who was a big star in

599
00:31:59,361 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: the adult industry and a guy you know that's kind

600
00:32:02,001 --> 00:32:03,801
Speaker 1: of hard for a guy, but he was used a lot,

601
00:32:04,481 --> 00:32:07,921
Speaker 1: and there was a young girl. She had to do DP.

602
00:32:09,801 --> 00:32:12,521
Speaker 1: I don't think she'd ever done a scene before. So

603
00:32:12,681 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: two Dick's first scene. I was just like, do you

604
00:32:15,521 --> 00:32:18,721
Speaker 1: know what you got yourself into? Here's the enema, here's

605
00:32:18,801 --> 00:32:23,521
Speaker 1: the like, and she's all like, oh, yeah, this is great,

606
00:32:23,561 --> 00:32:29,961
Speaker 1: this is great, this is great. And the guy I'm

607
00:32:30,001 --> 00:32:32,681
Speaker 1: looking at his dick and he has blisters on his dick,

608
00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:35,961
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm staring at it, and he goes,

609
00:32:35,961 --> 00:32:41,601
Speaker 1: don't tell anyone, don't say anything. I'm like, dude, are

610
00:32:41,641 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? He's like, oh, I need to

611
00:32:45,281 --> 00:32:50,001
Speaker 1: do the scene. So that was like I I didn't

612
00:32:50,041 --> 00:32:51,801
Speaker 1: have any say you know, I was just a PA

613
00:32:51,921 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: back then, and I was just like, oh, this is

614
00:32:54,281 --> 00:32:54,961
Speaker 1: not so good.

615
00:32:55,041 --> 00:32:55,321
Speaker 2: Yeah.

616
00:32:55,481 --> 00:32:57,321
Speaker 1: I'm like, hopefully he's going to put a condom on,

617
00:32:57,401 --> 00:33:02,921
Speaker 1: right or something. I'm like, huh, choice of Yeah, I

618
00:33:03,001 --> 00:33:05,641
Speaker 1: don't think so either. But yeah. The girl came out

619
00:33:06,241 --> 00:33:09,841
Speaker 1: after a scene and obviously must have had herpes and

620
00:33:10,281 --> 00:33:14,561
Speaker 1: her ass was just throttled, tears coming down her eyes,

621
00:33:14,601 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, Okay, did you know what

622
00:33:18,481 --> 00:33:21,841
Speaker 1: you're getting yourself into? Yes, but my boyfriend wanted me

623
00:33:21,881 --> 00:33:26,921
Speaker 1: to and I'm like, fuck, man, you know, but going

624
00:33:26,961 --> 00:33:30,481
Speaker 1: into the adult industry, there's no U turn you know

625
00:33:30,521 --> 00:33:34,841
Speaker 1: what I mean, there's no Oh, maybe I misjudged here,

626
00:33:35,481 --> 00:33:38,001
Speaker 1: you really And I taught people that I told people,

627
00:33:38,321 --> 00:33:40,401
Speaker 1: you know, even softcore for me. I mean, I tried

628
00:33:40,441 --> 00:33:44,241
Speaker 1: to turn around. Probably two thousand and nine or eight,

629
00:33:44,721 --> 00:33:47,561
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, we shot American Gladiators, so I

630
00:33:47,601 --> 00:33:52,561
Speaker 1: went from Triple X TOPG. And even then I was

631
00:33:52,641 --> 00:33:56,201
Speaker 1: released as a porn star. They knew everything that I did.

632
00:33:55,841 --> 00:34:00,761
Speaker 1: They knew everything, and TMZ leaked it and it was

633
00:34:00,801 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: like right before the show, and it didn't bother me,

634
00:34:04,001 --> 00:34:05,681
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I knew what I was doing.

635
00:34:06,401 --> 00:34:08,721
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything that I was ashamed of. I

636
00:34:08,761 --> 00:34:11,761
Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything that I regretted. I wasn't you know,

637
00:34:11,761 --> 00:34:13,641
Speaker 1: I didn't sell my soul to the devil or anything

638
00:34:14,321 --> 00:34:17,241
Speaker 1: to me. I was acting. I'd studied acting for the

639
00:34:17,281 --> 00:34:20,721
Speaker 1: past fifteen years and now I was working as an actor,

640
00:34:20,921 --> 00:34:22,881
Speaker 1: and so I was proud of what I did. And

641
00:34:22,921 --> 00:34:25,521
Speaker 1: you know, it's not easy. I didn't just didn't just

642
00:34:25,601 --> 00:34:27,041
Speaker 1: land in my laps. So I didn't just come and

643
00:34:27,081 --> 00:34:28,561
Speaker 1: hand it to me. I had to work hard. I

644
00:34:28,641 --> 00:34:31,201
Speaker 1: to audition, and I had to fucking get my gear

645
00:34:31,281 --> 00:34:33,481
Speaker 1: off every time in an audition. Hey look at me,

646
00:34:35,081 --> 00:34:37,841
Speaker 1: I don't have big fac hits. I don't have you know,

647
00:34:37,961 --> 00:34:39,881
Speaker 1: my butt was too big back then because I was training.

648
00:34:40,441 --> 00:34:45,881
Speaker 1: It was before having a big butt was trendy. So yeah,

649
00:34:45,881 --> 00:34:47,921
Speaker 1: it was a lot of a lot of work, but

650
00:34:48,201 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: it was work that I had been that I went

651
00:34:52,081 --> 00:34:55,641
Speaker 1: to America for, so for me, it was fine. But

652
00:34:56,201 --> 00:34:58,241
Speaker 1: there was still a part of me that wanted to

653
00:34:58,281 --> 00:35:02,001
Speaker 1: do mainstream acting. So when I did Gladiators, I was like, Okay,

654
00:35:03,321 --> 00:35:08,001
Speaker 1: maybe this is the end. They did a movie, one

655
00:35:08,041 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: more movie before the end with them and a guy

656
00:35:14,001 --> 00:35:17,481
Speaker 1: called Nick Manning, who I had. What happened was it

657
00:35:17,521 --> 00:35:19,721
Speaker 1: was became increasingly difficult for me because I was a

658
00:35:19,721 --> 00:35:22,681
Speaker 1: producer and then I was production manager, so that was

659
00:35:22,761 --> 00:35:25,881
Speaker 1: just underneath the director. So I would be yelling at people,

660
00:35:26,761 --> 00:35:30,321
Speaker 1: the actors if they weren't fucking everyone on the set,

661
00:35:30,481 --> 00:35:32,001
Speaker 1: they would want to fuck them, you know what I mean,

662
00:35:32,041 --> 00:35:36,161
Speaker 1: They just all want to fuck. So oh yeah, I'd

663
00:35:36,161 --> 00:35:38,881
Speaker 1: be the director and I'd be outside like looking for

664
00:35:38,921 --> 00:35:42,161
Speaker 1: a shot. Okay, here's the shot here. I'd be like,

665
00:35:42,201 --> 00:35:43,681
Speaker 1: where the fuck is in the window? What are you

666
00:35:43,721 --> 00:35:46,721
Speaker 1: guys doing get Away from Eric get Away? No? No,

667
00:35:47,401 --> 00:35:50,321
Speaker 1: they'd be like secretly fucking somewhere because they didn't get

668
00:35:50,321 --> 00:35:56,001
Speaker 1: to fucker in a scene. And so I couldn't do

669
00:35:56,041 --> 00:36:00,041
Speaker 1: any scenes with guys really because I'd be boss one

670
00:36:00,121 --> 00:36:02,561
Speaker 1: day and the next day they'd be fucking me. And

671
00:36:02,601 --> 00:36:04,321
Speaker 1: it just was not It was becoming difficult. So for

672
00:36:04,321 --> 00:36:08,001
Speaker 1: a while I did girl girl scenes for my own acting,

673
00:36:08,681 --> 00:36:14,361
Speaker 1: and then for the last, my last hurrah, I was like,

674
00:36:14,401 --> 00:36:15,721
Speaker 1: whatever I'll shoot.

675
00:36:15,361 --> 00:36:17,201
Speaker 2: So I girl girl scenes. Did you need that? Did

676
00:36:17,241 --> 00:36:20,721
Speaker 2: you need the band aid? Did?

677
00:36:23,281 --> 00:36:28,001
Speaker 1: Sometimes band aids, but sometimes not, And yeah, it would

678
00:36:28,001 --> 00:36:31,241
Speaker 1: be It's still funny. Like there's one movie that I

679
00:36:31,281 --> 00:36:33,961
Speaker 1: shot with my best friend Amy. She'd never been with

680
00:36:33,961 --> 00:36:35,841
Speaker 1: a girl, and it was for the guy who gave

681
00:36:35,921 --> 00:36:37,721
Speaker 1: us our green card, who we went to Hawaii with,

682
00:36:37,761 --> 00:36:40,361
Speaker 1: and to get your green card was was huge. So

683
00:36:40,561 --> 00:36:43,641
Speaker 1: for the deal, we said we do the green card

684
00:36:43,721 --> 00:36:46,761
Speaker 1: movies were studio movies, and then he had his own

685
00:36:46,881 --> 00:36:50,201
Speaker 1: side company and he did. He had this movie called

686
00:36:50,201 --> 00:36:53,241
Speaker 1: Bikini Airways, and I talked to my friend into do it.

687
00:36:53,321 --> 00:36:57,121
Speaker 1: I said, don't worry. It's like four pages of dialogue,

688
00:36:57,161 --> 00:36:59,321
Speaker 1: fourteen pages maybe, which you know, a script is about

689
00:36:59,401 --> 00:37:02,161
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty. Don't worry, it's not going to

690
00:37:02,241 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: go anywhere. So, I mean, it was a week's worth

691
00:37:06,481 --> 00:37:11,921
Speaker 1: of work. We were she had We've just been in Mexico.

692
00:37:12,361 --> 00:37:14,881
Speaker 1: She'd torn her racl so she was on painkillers and had,

693
00:37:15,721 --> 00:37:19,121
Speaker 1: you know, bandage on crutches. And we're doing this bikini Airways,

694
00:37:19,121 --> 00:37:26,881
Speaker 1: which is about strippers on an airplane. So and she's

695
00:37:26,921 --> 00:37:29,041
Speaker 1: doing her first girl girl scene with three of us.

696
00:37:29,801 --> 00:37:33,401
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're just having a hilarious time. I don't

697
00:37:33,401 --> 00:37:34,961
Speaker 1: even know how we made a movie out of it,

698
00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:37,281
Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean, but very very clever, you

699
00:37:37,361 --> 00:37:39,481
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's probably one of the

700
00:37:39,481 --> 00:37:42,041
Speaker 1: biggest cult movies that I've ever done. Like it's just

701
00:37:42,081 --> 00:37:45,681
Speaker 1: turned into one of those movies. So during that time,

702
00:37:45,761 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: I'd gotten married to the one guy. He didn't work out,

703
00:37:48,481 --> 00:37:50,481
Speaker 1: although I paid him the money five grand.

704
00:37:50,921 --> 00:37:53,041
Speaker 2: So you paid him five grand to get married, so

705
00:37:53,081 --> 00:37:54,841
Speaker 2: you get that green cart. Yes, So it wasn't really

706
00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:55,361
Speaker 2: true love.

707
00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:57,841
Speaker 1: No, it was just a it was a plan. Probably

708
00:37:57,881 --> 00:37:59,561
Speaker 1: one of the biggest mistake was I fucked him.

709
00:37:59,601 --> 00:38:01,801
Speaker 2: But so so let me get this straight.

710
00:38:02,081 --> 00:38:05,841
Speaker 3: You paid him, you didn't like him just for a

711
00:38:05,841 --> 00:38:07,201
Speaker 3: green cap, but you still fucked him.

712
00:38:07,361 --> 00:38:11,401
Speaker 1: He had a big cock and he gave me one

713
00:38:11,441 --> 00:38:14,881
Speaker 1: of those lonely loaly massages. I thought this would seal

714
00:38:14,921 --> 00:38:17,001
Speaker 1: the deal, you know what I mean. So I don't

715
00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:18,841
Speaker 1: know whether it did because I had a boyfriend at

716
00:38:18,881 --> 00:38:20,481
Speaker 1: the time and I thought he had a girlfriend. So

717
00:38:20,801 --> 00:38:23,161
Speaker 1: that was the understanding. The way that I found out

718
00:38:23,201 --> 00:38:25,321
Speaker 1: that he actually did have a girlfriend was I went

719
00:38:25,401 --> 00:38:30,281
Speaker 1: to I was friends with the girl with She was

720
00:38:31,721 --> 00:38:35,681
Speaker 1: a locations manager this and she was Marilyn Manson's girlfriend

721
00:38:35,681 --> 00:38:37,281
Speaker 1: at the time, and she said, I'm doing this party

722
00:38:37,281 --> 00:38:42,761
Speaker 1: for Carrie Fisher and Penny Marshall and that's Princess Leiah

723
00:38:42,761 --> 00:38:45,121
Speaker 1: and Laerna Shirley and do you want to do you

724
00:38:45,161 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: want to help me blow balloons up? I'm like, fuck yass.

725
00:38:48,121 --> 00:38:53,121
Speaker 1: So I went to Penny ma Carrie Fisher's house early

726
00:38:53,241 --> 00:38:55,081
Speaker 1: and we blew up balloons and there it was a

727
00:38:55,081 --> 00:38:57,441
Speaker 1: party full of all the stars that was their birthday parties.

728
00:38:57,921 --> 00:39:03,281
Speaker 1: And there's my husband with Carry Fisher's daughter. Wow, And

729
00:39:03,321 --> 00:39:06,801
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, hello. He hadn't been calling me

730
00:39:06,881 --> 00:39:08,641
Speaker 1: because he was supposed to get a bank account. He

731
00:39:08,681 --> 00:39:10,041
Speaker 1: was supposed to you know, do all this stuff. And

732
00:39:10,081 --> 00:39:12,201
Speaker 1: he was just ignoring me, and I was like, what

733
00:39:12,281 --> 00:39:13,641
Speaker 1: the fuck's going on. I was like, oh, well, now

734
00:39:13,681 --> 00:39:17,841
Speaker 1: I know what's going on. So I had to get divorced.

735
00:39:18,201 --> 00:39:21,241
Speaker 1: And then I thought, now I need to get married again.

736
00:39:21,761 --> 00:39:27,161
Speaker 1: And I was bartending for New Year's Eve at the

737
00:39:27,281 --> 00:39:29,721
Speaker 1: Mayan Downtown, which is a huge club. It was like

738
00:39:29,761 --> 00:39:31,841
Speaker 1: a gay club happening, and there was this hot guy

739
00:39:31,921 --> 00:39:35,081
Speaker 1: coming up and eventually I said to him, I gave

740
00:39:35,121 --> 00:39:37,481
Speaker 1: him free water all night and I said, oh, it's

741
00:39:37,481 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: a shame. He goes, what do you mean it's a shame.

742
00:39:39,481 --> 00:39:42,281
Speaker 1: I said, it's a shame you're gay because you're super hot.

743
00:39:42,441 --> 00:39:45,921
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not gay. I was like, okay, So

744
00:39:45,961 --> 00:39:50,521
Speaker 1: I married him and got my green carent that's I

745
00:39:50,521 --> 00:39:52,881
Speaker 1: didn't have to pay for him. Okay, no, finally, and

746
00:39:52,921 --> 00:39:55,721
Speaker 1: you know we're still friends to this day. So I

747
00:39:55,761 --> 00:39:58,001
Speaker 1: tried to make it work. He just didn't really have

748
00:39:58,121 --> 00:40:04,201
Speaker 1: enough tools in his toolbox for marriage. He uh, but

749
00:40:04,281 --> 00:40:06,561
Speaker 1: we did have. We it was four and a half years.

750
00:40:06,721 --> 00:40:09,041
Speaker 1: I was going to my therapist and saying, look, I

751
00:40:09,681 --> 00:40:11,561
Speaker 1: gotta get a green card. I'm gotta stay married for

752
00:40:11,641 --> 00:40:13,961
Speaker 1: two years. So tell me what I need to do,

753
00:40:13,961 --> 00:40:16,201
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I'm a brawler and

754
00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:19,401
Speaker 1: I'm like, do not push me. And he was on

755
00:40:19,681 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: plenty of steroids and so yeah, it was like kind

756
00:40:22,481 --> 00:40:28,921
Speaker 1: of volatile at times. But we got there and eventually

757
00:40:28,961 --> 00:40:30,721
Speaker 1: I got my green card. I mean, I got my

758
00:40:30,921 --> 00:40:36,961
Speaker 1: residential alien card. So that lasts for a while. I

759
00:40:37,081 --> 00:40:40,321
Speaker 1: was able to work. You know, I was already still working.

760
00:40:40,401 --> 00:40:43,921
Speaker 1: I was working on my visas and whatever. But yeah,

761
00:40:43,921 --> 00:40:51,121
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, maybe I'll go mainstream, and I guess

762
00:40:51,201 --> 00:40:53,681
Speaker 1: two thousand and six that kind of blew up. I

763
00:40:53,681 --> 00:40:58,001
Speaker 1: came back to Australia for a little bit. Met an

764
00:40:58,001 --> 00:41:05,201
Speaker 1: Australian guy invited him to America. Didn't think he'd come

765
00:41:05,241 --> 00:41:08,641
Speaker 1: to America. I'd take him to Aspahn and we're snowboarding

766
00:41:08,681 --> 00:41:11,721
Speaker 1: and then he proposes to me. So of course they

767
00:41:11,721 --> 00:41:14,881
Speaker 1: said yes, I know. Yeah, he had a big cocktail.

768
00:41:19,601 --> 00:41:21,481
Speaker 2: The musu.

769
00:41:23,161 --> 00:41:25,441
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, something to keep a girl happy.

770
00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,921
Speaker 1: The good thing about Lee was that we came home

771
00:41:28,961 --> 00:41:33,841
Speaker 1: to Australia. He didn't deal with America very well. He

772
00:41:33,921 --> 00:41:36,721
Speaker 1: had a really thick accent and they couldn't understand him,

773
00:41:36,921 --> 00:41:39,441
Speaker 1: and it was really frustrating for him. They would be

774
00:41:39,481 --> 00:41:41,721
Speaker 1: like what what all the time? Anyway, and plus I

775
00:41:41,801 --> 00:41:46,281
Speaker 1: was making I was bartending at an amazing restaurant in Malibu,

776
00:41:46,361 --> 00:41:50,721
Speaker 1: making bank there and personal training, so we you know,

777
00:41:50,721 --> 00:41:53,241
Speaker 1: we were making enough money. He was brick laying as well,

778
00:41:53,281 --> 00:41:57,041
Speaker 1: actually with an Australian guy, but it just it wasn't

779
00:41:57,081 --> 00:41:58,561
Speaker 1: working for him. So I said, Okay, we'll go home

780
00:41:58,561 --> 00:42:01,601
Speaker 1: and you can do it anyway. That worked out better

781
00:42:01,761 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: because my mom passed after two years of being back

782
00:42:04,441 --> 00:42:07,081
Speaker 1: here in Australia. Yeah, but yeah, came back, broke up

783
00:42:07,081 --> 00:42:11,041
Speaker 1: with him, the prick player. You know. I came back

784
00:42:11,081 --> 00:42:13,761
Speaker 1: to Australia and we were staying with mates of his

785
00:42:13,841 --> 00:42:16,401
Speaker 1: that were all trades. And believe me, I don't mind

786
00:42:16,441 --> 00:42:19,681
Speaker 1: smoking pot, but they're like pulling cones from three o'clock

787
00:42:19,721 --> 00:42:21,361
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. And I'm like, you guys fucking think

788
00:42:21,401 --> 00:42:24,921
Speaker 1: that this is hard work. You're working from six till

789
00:42:25,001 --> 00:42:29,321
Speaker 1: three and then you're sleeping and like pulling cones. So

790
00:42:30,001 --> 00:42:32,801
Speaker 1: and then I was having to hang clothes on a

791
00:42:32,841 --> 00:42:36,441
Speaker 1: clothes line. I know it doesn't sound like a lot,

792
00:42:36,601 --> 00:42:40,321
Speaker 1: but you don't use a clothesline in the States. You

793
00:42:40,481 --> 00:42:44,001
Speaker 1: use a dryer, so you just put clothes in the dryer.

794
00:42:44,601 --> 00:42:47,281
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is ridiculous, and they were

795
00:42:47,321 --> 00:42:50,121
Speaker 1: all saying, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't fucking can't. Cunt.

796
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:53,081
Speaker 1: I was just like, why what am I doing? Why?

797
00:42:53,201 --> 00:42:57,321
Speaker 1: Why why am I here? And so yeah, we broke

798
00:42:57,441 --> 00:43:01,921
Speaker 1: up and I kind of was just chilling out on

799
00:43:01,961 --> 00:43:05,921
Speaker 1: the Gold Coast and thought, you know, yeah, getting back

800
00:43:05,961 --> 00:43:09,401
Speaker 1: into mainstream. I hadn't done any movies. Then for a

801
00:43:09,441 --> 00:43:15,241
Speaker 1: while my mom passed. I get a little bored on

802
00:43:15,281 --> 00:43:18,241
Speaker 1: the Gold Coast. Yeah, it was do I go back

803
00:43:18,241 --> 00:43:22,281
Speaker 1: to the States, which I really wanted to do. What's

804
00:43:22,321 --> 00:43:24,641
Speaker 1: going to happen? Now? You know? That was my thing?

805
00:43:24,721 --> 00:43:27,561
Speaker 1: I just maybe it was running away. My brothers always say, oh,

806
00:43:27,601 --> 00:43:30,041
Speaker 1: you just run back to the States, am I I'm

807
00:43:30,081 --> 00:43:33,961
Speaker 1: in sounds like the Gold Coast is so boring at times,

808
00:43:33,961 --> 00:43:36,761
Speaker 1: like I love it, but it's compared to La. You know,

809
00:43:36,801 --> 00:43:39,641
Speaker 1: I need a big city, I need action, I need

810
00:43:39,681 --> 00:43:42,881
Speaker 1: stuff happening. Otherwise I get bored and I act out.

811
00:43:44,201 --> 00:43:47,641
Speaker 1: So then I started to organize to go back to

812
00:43:47,681 --> 00:43:49,801
Speaker 1: the States. When I had been over there for that

813
00:43:49,841 --> 00:43:53,521
Speaker 1: three months. My old agency sponsored me. So this was

814
00:43:53,561 --> 00:43:55,841
Speaker 1: a big deal. Like I now was able to get

815
00:43:55,881 --> 00:43:59,921
Speaker 1: an acting visa, when in the past it had been

816
00:44:00,441 --> 00:44:02,881
Speaker 1: a modeling visa. And by the way, that time that

817
00:44:02,921 --> 00:44:05,721
Speaker 1: I came back, I had to give up my green

818
00:44:05,761 --> 00:44:08,401
Speaker 1: card because to be able to keep the green card,

819
00:44:08,521 --> 00:44:10,521
Speaker 1: or it's not a green card at that point, it

820
00:44:10,641 --> 00:44:13,521
Speaker 1: was a residential alien card. Yeah, So to be keep

821
00:44:13,521 --> 00:44:16,241
Speaker 1: my residential alien card, I had to spend sixty months

822
00:44:16,761 --> 00:44:19,241
Speaker 1: at thirty months in my country in thirty months in

823
00:44:19,281 --> 00:44:22,401
Speaker 1: the States, and that hadn't happened, so that was nil

824
00:44:22,401 --> 00:44:24,361
Speaker 1: and void. So I had to start again. So here

825
00:44:24,401 --> 00:44:27,921
Speaker 1: we go now with an acting visa, got all the paperwork.

826
00:44:27,961 --> 00:44:29,921
Speaker 1: You know, you have to make a file that's thick

827
00:44:30,041 --> 00:44:31,761
Speaker 1: so you can get through. We end up if I

828
00:44:31,801 --> 00:44:34,681
Speaker 1: go back to the States. And it was right when

829
00:44:34,801 --> 00:44:38,281
Speaker 1: the Paris bombings were on, but I didn't know. I'd

830
00:44:38,321 --> 00:44:40,121
Speaker 1: gone out with my girlfriends the night before. It was

831
00:44:40,241 --> 00:44:45,801
Speaker 1: a huge night and just a mess. I get off

832
00:44:45,801 --> 00:44:50,921
Speaker 1: the other end and the the customs officer, I've got

833
00:44:50,921 --> 00:44:52,761
Speaker 1: four bags because I'm going to ask, but my best

834
00:44:52,761 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: friend's getting married. They paid for my flight. I didn't

835
00:44:55,561 --> 00:44:59,201
Speaker 1: want to use my visa because I was on act

836
00:44:59,321 --> 00:45:02,201
Speaker 1: a different type of visa. There was no time period

837
00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:04,561
Speaker 1: from it. It's supposed to be a project related, but

838
00:45:04,601 --> 00:45:06,081
Speaker 1: I didn't have a project to go to, so I

839
00:45:06,081 --> 00:45:07,401
Speaker 1: didn't know whether they were going to give me a

840
00:45:07,481 --> 00:45:10,361
Speaker 1: year or two years or what. So I was like,

841
00:45:10,401 --> 00:45:13,881
Speaker 1: I don't want to waste three months December to January.

842
00:45:14,401 --> 00:45:17,801
Speaker 1: You know, I'll just go on the est VISI waver

843
00:45:18,081 --> 00:45:21,201
Speaker 1: but I'll take an extra suitcase and i'll leave it there.

844
00:45:22,601 --> 00:45:24,921
Speaker 1: So I'm almost out, I'm texting my best friend who's

845
00:45:24,961 --> 00:45:27,081
Speaker 1: at the other end, and I'm like, this is faster

846
00:45:27,161 --> 00:45:29,481
Speaker 1: than I've ever been through here. I'll see in a minute.

847
00:45:29,641 --> 00:45:32,081
Speaker 1: And the next thing, the guy's like, huh, why have

848
00:45:32,121 --> 00:45:33,881
Speaker 1: you got four bags? What are you doing moving here?

849
00:45:34,441 --> 00:45:34,521
Speaker 3: Like?

850
00:45:34,721 --> 00:45:39,081
Speaker 1: No, over there, and the guy was like, hey, so

851
00:45:39,441 --> 00:45:44,081
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably you know one word before that,

852
00:45:44,161 --> 00:45:46,001
Speaker 1: but the second kind of sentence was like, oh, well,

853
00:45:46,001 --> 00:45:48,321
Speaker 1: when was the last time you smoked weed? I was like,

854
00:45:48,441 --> 00:45:51,961
Speaker 1: probably the last time I was in Colorado. Big mistake

855
00:45:52,001 --> 00:45:55,641
Speaker 1: as well. So just for anybody listening, if you're on

856
00:45:55,681 --> 00:45:59,961
Speaker 1: a visa waiver, especially the est one, you tick a box.

857
00:46:00,001 --> 00:46:02,361
Speaker 1: I know, we all tick the box. Yes no, no, no, no, no.

858
00:46:02,761 --> 00:46:04,921
Speaker 1: That one of those boxes is saying that you've never

859
00:46:05,161 --> 00:46:08,961
Speaker 1: broken a federal law in your country or in their country.

860
00:46:09,281 --> 00:46:12,361
Speaker 1: Smoking weed is a federal offense in the USA. Still,

861
00:46:12,961 --> 00:46:15,321
Speaker 1: So that was a thirteen hour in jail and turned

862
00:46:15,361 --> 00:46:19,721
Speaker 1: around like my life was over right, no acting visa,

863
00:46:20,041 --> 00:46:24,001
Speaker 1: no USA. I'm just like, this is my world just

864
00:46:24,041 --> 00:46:26,441
Speaker 1: came crumbling down. Yeah, And I came home with my

865
00:46:26,481 --> 00:46:29,081
Speaker 1: tail between my legs and thought, what the fuck am

866
00:46:29,121 --> 00:46:31,121
Speaker 1: I going to do now? And the next thing, my

867
00:46:31,161 --> 00:46:33,561
Speaker 1: good old mate Travis Bain, and the candyman calls. When

868
00:46:33,601 --> 00:46:36,561
Speaker 1: he goes I think I've got something for you, I'm like,

869
00:46:36,761 --> 00:46:39,081
Speaker 1: what he goes, just come to the mansion. I'd worked

870
00:46:39,081 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: with Travis on a couple of parties, but just we'd

871
00:46:42,481 --> 00:46:46,041
Speaker 1: always we'd met each other in Miami, Florida, and we'd

872
00:46:46,041 --> 00:46:48,481
Speaker 1: always We're gonna have the best parties in Australia. Well

873
00:46:48,561 --> 00:46:50,521
Speaker 1: la la la. So we had a few parties that

874
00:46:50,521 --> 00:46:52,761
Speaker 1: were really good. And then when I arrived at his

875
00:46:52,841 --> 00:46:57,081
Speaker 1: house this night, he uh he was going racing, and

876
00:46:58,161 --> 00:47:00,881
Speaker 1: I was like, awesome, I can do this for sure.

877
00:47:01,161 --> 00:47:03,721
Speaker 1: So I left the car job, went and worked for

878
00:47:03,761 --> 00:47:06,281
Speaker 1: him as his event manager. He also had free choice

879
00:47:06,361 --> 00:47:09,161
Speaker 1: who they had conventions, conferences and things like that. So

880
00:47:09,281 --> 00:47:12,001
Speaker 1: we're doing a bunch of stuff. But yeah, we went racing.

881
00:47:12,601 --> 00:47:14,521
Speaker 1: I was with him for the past four or for

882
00:47:14,561 --> 00:47:17,921
Speaker 1: four and a half years, and we did. We had

883
00:47:18,041 --> 00:47:21,881
Speaker 1: the biggest, most baucherous You didn't live in now, I

884
00:47:21,881 --> 00:47:24,561
Speaker 1: didn't live in Travis, and I like brothers. But you know,

885
00:47:24,601 --> 00:47:27,961
Speaker 1: we built the party from about five hundred people at

886
00:47:28,001 --> 00:47:33,241
Speaker 1: about five hundred thousand dollars budget to about fifteen hundred people,

887
00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:36,241
Speaker 1: three hundred staff and a one point five million dollar

888
00:47:36,241 --> 00:47:37,721
Speaker 1: budget for a twelve hour party.

889
00:47:38,361 --> 00:47:38,881
Speaker 2: Wow.

890
00:47:39,281 --> 00:47:42,561
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty fun. Twenty eighteen was like the

891
00:47:42,641 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: last party that we had.

892
00:47:44,081 --> 00:47:47,961
Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you think he had them parties? What

893
00:47:48,041 --> 00:47:48,161
Speaker 2: was it?

894
00:47:48,321 --> 00:47:52,241
Speaker 1: The beginning? The beginning was to promote free choice. Okay,

895
00:47:52,801 --> 00:47:56,201
Speaker 1: you know, you can't promote cigarettes. So the parties were

896
00:47:56,201 --> 00:48:00,961
Speaker 1: always a way to promote free choice. And then it

897
00:48:01,081 --> 00:48:04,521
Speaker 1: just grew, you know, it grew, it became more slick,

898
00:48:05,841 --> 00:48:09,721
Speaker 1: the control by the end of it, never if it

899
00:48:09,721 --> 00:48:12,281
Speaker 1: got out of control. You know, one year, I remember,

900
00:48:13,161 --> 00:48:15,801
Speaker 1: and I mean we would bust people in, you know,

901
00:48:15,961 --> 00:48:19,441
Speaker 1: so they're in free drinks. You can't buy a ticket,

902
00:48:19,601 --> 00:48:24,121
Speaker 1: you have to apply and Travis accept you yeah, and

903
00:48:24,161 --> 00:48:27,721
Speaker 1: there's no I mean, if somebody snuck into one of

904
00:48:27,761 --> 00:48:29,961
Speaker 1: those parties, I'd love to know how someone tried to

905
00:48:29,961 --> 00:48:32,121
Speaker 1: come in via boat. One year, but we have security

906
00:48:32,161 --> 00:48:36,881
Speaker 1: all around property and everywhere. But one year, the police

907
00:48:36,921 --> 00:48:40,441
Speaker 1: came and they said they were going to search the place,

908
00:48:41,161 --> 00:48:43,681
Speaker 1: and obviously we didn't know what people have gone.

909
00:48:43,761 --> 00:48:43,921
Speaker 2: No.

910
00:48:44,001 --> 00:48:46,361
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the first party that we had a lot

911
00:48:46,401 --> 00:48:50,241
Speaker 1: of people dropped, but it was summertime and we didn't

912
00:48:50,241 --> 00:48:53,121
Speaker 1: have a triage, our own triage. So we had like

913
00:48:53,241 --> 00:48:58,241
Speaker 1: seven ambulances come and go from twelve twelve pm to

914
00:48:58,521 --> 00:49:00,441
Speaker 1: one point. So I was like, okay, next year, we

915
00:49:00,481 --> 00:49:03,601
Speaker 1: need our own ambulance, our own triage here, and we

916
00:49:03,801 --> 00:49:05,641
Speaker 1: just take care of them because some of them were

917
00:49:05,721 --> 00:49:08,361
Speaker 1: just you know, overheating. One got a bitten by spider,

918
00:49:09,441 --> 00:49:13,281
Speaker 1: you know, things like that. So then we kind of

919
00:49:13,281 --> 00:49:17,481
Speaker 1: contained it all. But the police said that they were

920
00:49:17,521 --> 00:49:19,481
Speaker 1: going to come in and search the place, and Travis

921
00:49:19,561 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: just said, no, don't worry, we'll just shut it down.

922
00:49:21,521 --> 00:49:24,401
Speaker 1: And that was at ten pm, so we had to

923
00:49:24,441 --> 00:49:26,921
Speaker 1: call I had to call all the buses and then

924
00:49:27,041 --> 00:49:29,161
Speaker 1: get you know, a thousand people out of the house

925
00:49:29,761 --> 00:49:33,401
Speaker 1: who were pretty drunk. The party started at twelve pm,

926
00:49:33,561 --> 00:49:35,721
Speaker 1: so by ten pm pretty drunk.

927
00:49:37,441 --> 00:49:39,321
Speaker 3: You think it's weird that you can have a party

928
00:49:39,321 --> 00:49:42,641
Speaker 3: with strangers, you know what I mean, like inviting people

929
00:49:42,681 --> 00:49:44,921
Speaker 3: from the public eye, Like it's not like all of them,

930
00:49:44,961 --> 00:49:46,961
Speaker 3: Like I know a few celebrities used to go to them,

931
00:49:47,441 --> 00:49:50,681
Speaker 3: but they weren't really big celebrities, like like you know,

932
00:49:50,721 --> 00:49:53,561
Speaker 3: people from fucking you know, maybe the first site and

933
00:49:53,641 --> 00:49:56,161
Speaker 3: people like that Love Island, Matanna, but.

934
00:49:56,041 --> 00:49:59,641
Speaker 1: The majority of the people are outside. So the VIP

935
00:49:59,841 --> 00:50:01,601
Speaker 1: room was the only part of the house that was

936
00:50:01,641 --> 00:50:06,841
Speaker 1: open really and his bedroom for the girls that were invited.

937
00:50:07,241 --> 00:50:11,041
Speaker 3: Okay, so all the girls invited were allowed to.

938
00:50:10,681 --> 00:50:15,161
Speaker 1: No his special girls, the girl special girls who were

939
00:50:15,201 --> 00:50:19,121
Speaker 1: invited for the party, So they were probably staying the

940
00:50:19,241 --> 00:50:22,081
Speaker 1: night there for the party, and.

941
00:50:22,041 --> 00:50:23,801
Speaker 3: So they it's just not just the girls who stayed

942
00:50:23,801 --> 00:50:26,201
Speaker 3: lived there, it's girls who especially being invited.

943
00:50:26,361 --> 00:50:30,841
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, So there were there was sixty paid models

944
00:50:31,241 --> 00:50:34,841
Speaker 1: that were paid for twelve hours that were either angels,

945
00:50:35,001 --> 00:50:39,721
Speaker 1: candy girls, or something else. But yeah, because there was

946
00:50:39,801 --> 00:50:43,241
Speaker 1: majority girls, like it was seventy percent girls, very few

947
00:50:43,241 --> 00:50:47,241
Speaker 1: guys got invited, which made girls feel safe. They felt safe,

948
00:50:47,521 --> 00:50:49,521
Speaker 1: they could party, they could do what they wanted to.

949
00:50:50,361 --> 00:50:54,281
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be harassed by drunk guys, you know what

950
00:50:54,281 --> 00:50:57,681
Speaker 1: I mean. And if any guys were acting like that,

951
00:50:57,721 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: they would be ejected immediately. So it was a safe

952
00:51:01,081 --> 00:51:03,561
Speaker 1: environment for the girls to be free and to be

953
00:51:03,721 --> 00:51:06,841
Speaker 1: nude or to wear as little possible as they wanted

954
00:51:07,161 --> 00:51:11,081
Speaker 1: to calm dressed up, to have a great time. And yeah,

955
00:51:11,281 --> 00:51:15,161
Speaker 1: it was, you know, our slice of the Playboy Mansion,

956
00:51:15,161 --> 00:51:17,441
Speaker 1: I guess, the updated version of it. And it was

957
00:51:17,481 --> 00:51:18,721
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, and it was a lot of

958
00:51:18,721 --> 00:51:23,121
Speaker 1: work bump in and bump out, you know. And I

959
00:51:23,161 --> 00:51:26,041
Speaker 1: guess it was all getting mid ready for my last

960
00:51:26,121 --> 00:51:30,281
Speaker 1: hint with sex bo because yeah, that's a big event.

961
00:51:31,121 --> 00:51:34,241
Speaker 1: But Kevin Mack, who owns sex Bow and the Toutoo expos,

962
00:51:34,721 --> 00:51:38,801
Speaker 1: he came and saw me at the candy Shop mansion.

963
00:51:39,161 --> 00:51:41,761
Speaker 1: Because I always wanted Travis to be involved with sex Bo.

964
00:51:41,801 --> 00:51:43,961
Speaker 1: I thought it was perfect for him. I don't think

965
00:51:44,041 --> 00:51:46,881
Speaker 1: Trav was ever really ready to you know, he's got

966
00:51:46,881 --> 00:51:49,401
Speaker 1: a young family who's never really to just give into

967
00:51:49,441 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: the adult world, because like I said before, once you're

968
00:51:52,961 --> 00:51:56,121
Speaker 1: in there, it's hard to turn around. And you know,

969
00:51:56,161 --> 00:52:00,201
Speaker 1: he created a bit of a stir with the dogs

970
00:52:00,241 --> 00:52:02,921
Speaker 1: on leash thing. They weren't even leashes. That was their

971
00:52:02,921 --> 00:52:08,721
Speaker 1: bikini straps. I'm like serious, But anyway, that's what helped

972
00:52:08,761 --> 00:52:11,281
Speaker 1: him to go viral. And he went with it, you

973
00:52:11,281 --> 00:52:12,721
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he just played along with it

974
00:52:12,761 --> 00:52:15,561
Speaker 1: because that's what Trevor loves to do. So yeah, keV

975
00:52:15,681 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: came and but Sexbot came back hard in twenty twenty

976
00:52:19,041 --> 00:52:24,921
Speaker 1: two and it was a huge, huge success, huge shows Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne,

977
00:52:25,121 --> 00:52:27,521
Speaker 1: and it was like we were living the dream again.

978
00:52:28,681 --> 00:52:31,721
Speaker 1: It was still hard, hard work, you know, like one

979
00:52:31,841 --> 00:52:35,081
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to two hundred exhibitors at that point

980
00:52:35,121 --> 00:52:38,041
Speaker 1: we had our own. It was like a full stage show,

981
00:52:38,201 --> 00:52:44,241
Speaker 1: so there was thirteen performers and four different acts, four

982
00:52:44,441 --> 00:52:49,481
Speaker 1: acts of costumes, so costume changes, a sex ed stage,

983
00:52:49,641 --> 00:52:55,601
Speaker 1: a kink corner, two strip rooms and yeah, twelve thousand

984
00:52:55,641 --> 00:52:59,401
Speaker 1: to fifteen thousand people through the door over the weekend. Yeah,

985
00:52:59,561 --> 00:53:01,121
Speaker 1: and big, big nights, you know.

986
00:53:01,161 --> 00:53:05,161
Speaker 2: Like enjoying the sex perner. You enjoy it.

987
00:53:05,401 --> 00:53:09,601
Speaker 1: So twenty twenty three was a big year as well,

988
00:53:09,641 --> 00:53:11,721
Speaker 1: a lot of work for me. So at the beginning

989
00:53:11,761 --> 00:53:14,681
Speaker 1: of this year, there was some changes that happened and

990
00:53:15,041 --> 00:53:18,281
Speaker 1: one of the changes was that I finished full time work. Okay,

991
00:53:19,121 --> 00:53:23,121
Speaker 1: so I'm still working with them. I'm, you know, managing

992
00:53:23,161 --> 00:53:28,081
Speaker 1: the content creators, managing the entertainment and on site as

993
00:53:29,201 --> 00:53:33,561
Speaker 1: as a coordinator event coordinator, which the stress is gone

994
00:53:33,961 --> 00:53:36,841
Speaker 1: day to day, which is great, but it also gave

995
00:53:36,841 --> 00:53:44,001
Speaker 1: me time to do some of my own things. Adventure well, yeah,

996
00:53:44,321 --> 00:53:47,841
Speaker 1: I've always been about making money. And when I first

997
00:53:47,921 --> 00:53:50,521
Speaker 1: got to Sexpo Kevin, I would have been there a

998
00:53:50,561 --> 00:53:52,361
Speaker 1: couple of days and he sent me to the award

999
00:53:52,441 --> 00:53:55,641
Speaker 1: show because sex Bo was nominated for an award. So

1000
00:53:55,721 --> 00:53:57,721
Speaker 1: me being me, i went and I just kind of

1001
00:53:58,361 --> 00:54:01,401
Speaker 1: sucked in everyone. I was like, oh yeah, let me

1002
00:54:01,401 --> 00:54:03,761
Speaker 1: get to know all of you guys. And so for

1003
00:54:03,841 --> 00:54:08,601
Speaker 1: the next years it was great. It was an amazing

1004
00:54:08,641 --> 00:54:12,321
Speaker 1: gala event. The Adult Choice Awards really turned it on.

1005
00:54:12,721 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: Everyone looking gorgeous, Everyone's so much fun. The after party

1006
00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:20,161
Speaker 1: is amazing. And so the next year I really wanted

1007
00:54:20,161 --> 00:54:22,041
Speaker 1: to I think it must have been a big birthday

1008
00:54:22,081 --> 00:54:25,521
Speaker 1: for me, and so I really wanted to have my

1009
00:54:25,641 --> 00:54:27,881
Speaker 1: own suite and stay a few more days in Sydney.

1010
00:54:27,881 --> 00:54:31,361
Speaker 1: I was born in Sydney, so yeah, it was it

1011
00:54:31,441 --> 00:54:34,081
Speaker 1: was going to cost some money, and my friend who

1012
00:54:34,121 --> 00:54:37,521
Speaker 1: I knew, managed some girls, some escorts. He was too

1013
00:54:37,521 --> 00:54:40,561
Speaker 1: busy doing the award show. So I thought, oh, I

1014
00:54:40,641 --> 00:54:42,561
Speaker 1: knew a friend of mine and she'd give me this number.

1015
00:54:42,601 --> 00:54:45,721
Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, well, maybe I'll try this. So

1016
00:54:45,801 --> 00:54:50,601
Speaker 1: I called this dinky, dinky brothel in the middle of Melbourne,

1017
00:54:50,601 --> 00:54:53,921
Speaker 1: somewhere I don't even know where it was. So I thought, oh,

1018
00:54:54,041 --> 00:54:56,441
Speaker 1: maybe I'll just try one day week, one night a week,

1019
00:54:56,881 --> 00:54:58,601
Speaker 1: and so I had to go down there and work

1020
00:54:59,121 --> 00:55:05,761
Speaker 1: and it was crazy, like fifteen minute, half hour. It

1021
00:55:05,841 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: was just like I was just like, what's going on here?

1022
00:55:08,561 --> 00:55:11,041
Speaker 1: But I was making money. So I was making you know,

1023
00:55:11,201 --> 00:55:12,921
Speaker 1: maybe even just a thousand dollars a night, but it

1024
00:55:12,961 --> 00:55:16,201
Speaker 1: was an extra thousand dollars on the salary that I

1025
00:55:16,241 --> 00:55:20,321
Speaker 1: had that was going to pay for my fun. So

1026
00:55:20,561 --> 00:55:22,921
Speaker 1: I did that and went to the awards and it

1027
00:55:23,081 --> 00:55:25,401
Speaker 1: had an amazing time and had all this money that

1028
00:55:25,441 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: I thought I could spend and didn't feel guilty about

1029
00:55:27,961 --> 00:55:29,521
Speaker 1: it because I didn't have to pay, you know. I

1030
00:55:29,681 --> 00:55:32,241
Speaker 1: made it my way and did what I want to

1031
00:55:32,281 --> 00:55:34,881
Speaker 1: do with it. And then I told my friend who's

1032
00:55:35,281 --> 00:55:38,081
Speaker 1: PA in the business, you know, for privates, and He

1033
00:55:38,201 --> 00:55:41,201
Speaker 1: was like, what, what the fuck? What are you doing?

1034
00:55:41,801 --> 00:55:44,361
Speaker 1: He goes, actually, it's probably good because once I start

1035
00:55:44,441 --> 00:55:48,481
Speaker 1: paying you, then you'll appreciate me. So we talked about it,

1036
00:55:48,481 --> 00:55:51,161
Speaker 1: and then yeah, I started side hustling while I was

1037
00:55:51,201 --> 00:55:54,601
Speaker 1: still working for sex Bo. But you know, one or

1038
00:55:54,641 --> 00:55:58,681
Speaker 1: two clients a week at six fifty year pop was

1039
00:55:59,161 --> 00:56:02,841
Speaker 1: just exactly I'm not trying to you know, I'm not

1040
00:56:02,881 --> 00:56:07,001
Speaker 1: trying to rip anyone off the normal type of rate.

1041
00:56:07,801 --> 00:56:09,601
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was our goal, you know, a couple

1042
00:56:09,641 --> 00:56:12,841
Speaker 1: of clients a week to just supplement my income. And

1043
00:56:14,081 --> 00:56:16,721
Speaker 1: it was fun, you know. I found that during my

1044
00:56:16,881 --> 00:56:20,721
Speaker 1: dating life, I guess I was always like I felt

1045
00:56:20,721 --> 00:56:24,721
Speaker 1: like a real annoyance because I never could get late enough.

1046
00:56:24,841 --> 00:56:27,601
Speaker 1: I was never sexually satisfied. I was like always like

1047
00:56:27,881 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: when are you gonna fuck me? When are you gonna

1048
00:56:29,521 --> 00:56:31,161
Speaker 1: fuck me? When are you gonna fuck me? And then

1049
00:56:31,241 --> 00:56:34,001
Speaker 1: that I was told that's really unattractive. So I was like, okay,

1050
00:56:36,241 --> 00:56:39,801
Speaker 1: just walk around nude or something like hello. You know.

1051
00:56:40,001 --> 00:56:43,681
Speaker 1: Dating it's like, well, now, okay, sure I want to

1052
00:56:43,721 --> 00:56:45,241
Speaker 1: fuck you, but you first you got to feed me.

1053
00:56:45,681 --> 00:56:47,761
Speaker 1: And then like, at least I'm not gonna fuck you

1054
00:56:47,801 --> 00:56:51,081
Speaker 1: on the first day, because I don't even know if

1055
00:56:51,081 --> 00:56:54,281
Speaker 1: I like you yet. So dating was always just such

1056
00:56:54,321 --> 00:56:58,681
Speaker 1: a yawn to me because I'm not really looking for

1057
00:56:58,721 --> 00:57:04,561
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. So this turned out to be perfect solution. Yeah.

1058
00:57:05,361 --> 00:57:09,721
Speaker 1: So when at the beginning of the year, I had

1059
00:57:10,681 --> 00:57:13,441
Speaker 1: decided to stop full time work, my dad is getting

1060
00:57:13,481 --> 00:57:18,081
Speaker 1: older and my job had taken priority. And when my

1061
00:57:18,201 --> 00:57:20,121
Speaker 1: dad said to me one time, oh, you know, I

1062
00:57:20,121 --> 00:57:22,201
Speaker 1: don't want to bother you at work or I don't

1063
00:57:22,241 --> 00:57:24,321
Speaker 1: want to burden you with this, and I know I

1064
00:57:24,321 --> 00:57:26,881
Speaker 1: shouldn't be calling you during work hours, I was like,

1065
00:57:27,121 --> 00:57:31,361
Speaker 1: what am I? What is this? Why? Why I Why

1066
00:57:31,401 --> 00:57:34,601
Speaker 1: have I made this for me and my dad? No,

1067
00:57:34,841 --> 00:57:36,681
Speaker 1: you should be able to call me any time, Dad, like,

1068
00:57:37,641 --> 00:57:42,561
Speaker 1: you should be my priority. But I'm so I'm such

1069
00:57:42,601 --> 00:57:46,721
Speaker 1: a hard worker that the job overtook my life and

1070
00:57:46,761 --> 00:57:50,801
Speaker 1: it's such a huge job thinking about every aspect of it,

1071
00:57:50,881 --> 00:57:53,521
Speaker 1: especially as you get closer to the show. It was

1072
00:57:53,561 --> 00:57:56,201
Speaker 1: just like, that's how I function I functioned like a

1073
00:57:56,241 --> 00:57:59,041
Speaker 1: helicopter and just making sure that we're ticking all the

1074
00:57:59,041 --> 00:58:01,961
Speaker 1: boxes and all of this is done, and more stuff

1075
00:58:02,001 --> 00:58:05,241
Speaker 1: would come up, which is great, but at the end

1076
00:58:05,241 --> 00:58:07,881
Speaker 1: of the day, it was stressing me, making me sick,

1077
00:58:07,921 --> 00:58:11,561
Speaker 1: and my dad, you know, had said that and I

1078
00:58:11,601 --> 00:58:14,441
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I just got to just got to stop,

1079
00:58:14,761 --> 00:58:18,361
Speaker 1: just gotta find something else. So then I thought, maybe

1080
00:58:18,361 --> 00:58:22,841
Speaker 1: I'll just do this full time. So now it's only

1081
00:58:22,881 --> 00:58:25,841
Speaker 1: been a couple of months. You know, it was really

1082
00:58:25,881 --> 00:58:28,841
Speaker 1: great at Sexpo for me to tell people that I've

1083
00:58:28,841 --> 00:58:32,201
Speaker 1: started working full time as an event manager and that

1084
00:58:32,361 --> 00:58:36,601
Speaker 1: I'm escorting. And still it's hard. There's so much judgment.

1085
00:58:36,721 --> 00:58:40,401
Speaker 1: It's so hard for me to sit here and kind

1086
00:58:40,441 --> 00:58:44,321
Speaker 1: of proclaim it. Where at Sexpo it feels normal, you know.

1087
00:58:44,441 --> 00:58:48,961
Speaker 1: It's it's such a great environment where people were proud

1088
00:58:48,961 --> 00:58:51,041
Speaker 1: of me. They're like, oh go girl, you go like

1089
00:58:51,641 --> 00:58:55,041
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. You know, in my circle of friends,

1090
00:58:55,481 --> 00:58:58,561
Speaker 1: sure it's accepted. Am I like out there on the

1091
00:58:58,561 --> 00:59:01,281
Speaker 1: Gold Coast on the local radio going hey, I'm an escort?

1092
00:59:02,201 --> 00:59:05,681
Speaker 1: No why because people are fucking judgmental, you know what

1093
00:59:05,761 --> 00:59:09,601
Speaker 1: I mean. And although I'm not hurting anybody in my

1094
00:59:10,241 --> 00:59:13,481
Speaker 1: over here, you know, I've lived my whole life in

1095
00:59:13,521 --> 00:59:19,881
Speaker 1: the adult industry. I've seen the judgment and it sucks.

1096
00:59:20,001 --> 00:59:23,041
Speaker 1: But you can't I can't change that. And I mean,

1097
00:59:23,081 --> 00:59:25,321
Speaker 1: at this point, now I want to be I want

1098
00:59:25,321 --> 00:59:27,601
Speaker 1: to be truthful, and I want to stand up for

1099
00:59:27,801 --> 00:59:31,201
Speaker 1: and I want to be a voice for sex workers,

1100
00:59:31,481 --> 00:59:34,521
Speaker 1: for the adult industry, and for people that you know,

1101
00:59:34,881 --> 00:59:37,121
Speaker 1: have not had a choice. I've had a choice. I've

1102
00:59:37,121 --> 00:59:40,201
Speaker 1: had a great life. I've been able to choose whether

1103
00:59:40,241 --> 00:59:42,081
Speaker 1: or I wanted what I want to do. Some people

1104
00:59:42,161 --> 00:59:44,641
Speaker 1: don't choose this life. Some people may be born in

1105
00:59:44,681 --> 00:59:48,441
Speaker 1: it or may just not have any other options. You know,

1106
00:59:48,841 --> 00:59:51,241
Speaker 1: I could go and do other things tomorrow as well,

1107
00:59:51,281 --> 00:59:55,561
Speaker 1: but I'm having a great time making a bunch of money,

1108
00:59:55,921 --> 00:59:58,441
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm going to milk this while I can.

1109
00:59:58,521 --> 01:00:00,521
Speaker 1: This is not going to last forever, I know. You know,

1110
01:00:00,641 --> 01:00:03,001
Speaker 1: I'm very clear on that too. You know, I had

1111
01:00:03,001 --> 01:00:08,161
Speaker 1: a meeting last weekend with a beautiful, amazing couple that

1112
01:00:08,201 --> 01:00:11,521
Speaker 1: I'm going to do resort takeovers with adult resort takeovers,

1113
01:00:11,881 --> 01:00:14,001
Speaker 1: and you know, we were planning things that we're going

1114
01:00:14,081 --> 01:00:16,201
Speaker 1: to do. And but that's the environment that I want

1115
01:00:16,201 --> 01:00:19,041
Speaker 1: to be in. Even these people that are going on

1116
01:00:19,081 --> 01:00:22,841
Speaker 1: these resort trips with us, half of them have separate lives.

1117
01:00:22,961 --> 01:00:25,561
Speaker 1: Like even the people that I was hanging out with,

1118
01:00:26,241 --> 01:00:28,881
Speaker 1: they don't tell their friends what they're doing that, they're

1119
01:00:28,881 --> 01:00:32,721
Speaker 1: making that, they're going on these holidays and it's with

1120
01:00:32,761 --> 01:00:35,801
Speaker 1: a bunch of swingers and you know, nothing may happen,

1121
01:00:36,001 --> 01:00:38,561
Speaker 1: but we're all hanging out nude, that's for sure, you know,

1122
01:00:38,681 --> 01:00:42,841
Speaker 1: and talking about sex and and and maybe pleasing each

1123
01:00:42,841 --> 01:00:46,241
Speaker 1: other or you know, thinking about it or you know,

1124
01:00:46,681 --> 01:00:50,321
Speaker 1: like wow, you know what I mean. So that's the

1125
01:00:50,401 --> 01:00:52,321
Speaker 1: kind of world that I want to live in. And

1126
01:00:52,401 --> 01:00:56,841
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if, as we call it, civilian society

1127
01:00:57,081 --> 01:00:59,801
Speaker 1: is ready for it at all, you know what I mean,

1128
01:00:59,841 --> 01:01:01,001
Speaker 1: because they're so judgmental.

1129
01:01:01,601 --> 01:01:04,041
Speaker 2: I mean, so what's your what's your what's your name?

1130
01:01:04,081 --> 01:01:04,881
Speaker 2: On them?

1131
01:01:07,721 --> 01:01:10,761
Speaker 1: Well, on my stage name for since two thousand, well

1132
01:01:10,801 --> 01:01:14,441
Speaker 1: since probably a bit before that has been Kylie Wyote.

1133
01:01:15,081 --> 01:01:17,401
Speaker 1: So it's a couple of different ones. Kylie Wyote was

1134
01:01:17,401 --> 01:01:20,561
Speaker 1: the one that I chose because obviously Kiley Coyote and

1135
01:01:20,601 --> 01:01:24,641
Speaker 1: it was quite funny. But Disney wouldn't let me, Warner

1136
01:01:24,681 --> 01:01:27,841
Speaker 1: Brothers wouldn't let me use Kylie Wyote sometimes. Okay, so

1137
01:01:27,841 --> 01:01:30,681
Speaker 1: I do use Kylie Biscayne, but yeah, it's Kylie Wyote.

1138
01:01:31,001 --> 01:01:35,121
Speaker 2: Well, okay for anyone out there, Yeah.

1139
01:01:34,561 --> 01:01:37,161
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty if you google Blindagava. If you

1140
01:01:37,201 --> 01:01:39,721
Speaker 1: google Kylie Wyote, it'll both come up. It'll come up

1141
01:01:39,761 --> 01:01:42,921
Speaker 1: with with everything. It'll come up with clips from movies,

1142
01:01:42,961 --> 01:01:49,441
Speaker 1: all my movies because back then there was no porn

1143
01:01:49,521 --> 01:01:51,361
Speaker 1: hub to kind of put them on. That was just

1144
01:01:51,441 --> 01:01:53,561
Speaker 1: it was late night TV and they just were out

1145
01:01:53,601 --> 01:01:57,041
Speaker 1: there already, So you can watch them all and for free.

1146
01:01:58,081 --> 01:01:59,481
Speaker 1: The only things that I aren't for free are my

1147
01:01:59,521 --> 01:02:04,881
Speaker 1: only fans. Of course I have only like everyone during

1148
01:02:05,601 --> 01:02:09,041
Speaker 1: it struck. Yeah, that's easy for me, you know, shoot

1149
01:02:09,041 --> 01:02:12,921
Speaker 1: photos or to shoot little videos is easy. Probably now

1150
01:02:12,961 --> 01:02:15,081
Speaker 1: that I'm full time, which has only happened in the

1151
01:02:15,121 --> 01:02:18,481
Speaker 1: past couple of months, I'd hope to have time to

1152
01:02:18,521 --> 01:02:21,681
Speaker 1: shoot some more content. And now on OnlyFans they can

1153
01:02:21,761 --> 01:02:22,401
Speaker 1: see my pussy.

1154
01:02:24,001 --> 01:02:24,481
Speaker 2: Thank you for that.

1155
01:02:26,401 --> 01:02:29,201
Speaker 5: Well, no, thank you WELLINORV for coming on and sharing

1156
01:02:29,241 --> 01:02:32,601
Speaker 5: your life in LA and sharing your life now at

1157
01:02:32,681 --> 01:02:37,281
Speaker 5: Sexpo and now you're escorting, and I hope you get

1158
01:02:37,361 --> 01:02:38,881
Speaker 5: a lot of jobs and money.

1159
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Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for having me on.