WEBVTT - Sharri | 27 November 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:00.840 News. 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:02.560 This is Shari. 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.200 Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.800 filling in for Shari tonight. What's coming up on the 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.039 show The truth between Israel and Hesbella in full effect 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.760 with hopes of calm in the Middle East tonight. But 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.520 what happens next? Also tonight, Lydia Thorpe suspended following a 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.960 wild outburst in the Senate was just one of the 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.520 dramatic scenes that unfolded today. Liberal Senator Holly Hughes will 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.000 join me to break that down. Plus how out of 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.000 touch can the ABC chairman get Kim Williams unloaded on 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:36.640 the world's most popular podcaster, as the National Broadcaster's Radio 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.880 Ratings Tank. My take on that in a moment. But first, 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.760 the Albaneze government has become quite adept at cooking the 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.920 books to make the numbers look better. That's of course 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.600 what they did with the three hundred dollars subsidy for 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.000 power bills. It doesn't actually reduce the price of power 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.639 at all. It's a payment to power companies so they 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.960 can knock some money off the bill that they send you, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.120 which conveniently means that when inflation is calculated, power bills 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.520 have gone down and so inflation will go down, but 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.399 the actual cost of the commodity hasn't changed. You might 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.960 call it creative accounting. Well, Deloitte Access Economics has exposed 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.560 another dodgy way that Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi and Treasurer 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.240 Jim Charmers of course, problem with Bishop who's on this 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.240 program on a Tuesday, calls him the stake charmer. They're 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.039 diddling the numbers. It's called off budget spending, which is 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.319 where the government spends more money by declaring it as 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.880 an investment ie. That money goes through a government business 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.039 or lending scheme, which means it isn't included in the 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.000 underlying budget number, which is the one that we talk 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.760 about on Budget Night, surplus and deficit, etc. The Financial 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.760 Review reported today that based on Deloitte numbers, off budget 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.160 spending will go through the roof to eighty seven point 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.480 one billion dollars over the next four years. Now take 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.320 a look at this graph the AFR RAN. This shows 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.880 the off budget spending for the past couple of decades 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.120 and what Deloitte projects will be spent in the future. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.200 That's the red bit there. As you can see it 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.760 wasn't a thing before the NBN came along, and for 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.639 the most part was below ten billion dollars a year 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.560 after that, but it will explode to record levels under 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:23.720 Albanzi and Charmers, and this shows exactly what that means. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.120 The federal budget is actually about twenty billion dollars worse 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.400 off a year than what Charmers will tell you on 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.040 budget Night, very tricky. A large portion of this is 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.920 student loans, as you can see here, and things like 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:41.560 the Clean Energy Finance Corporation Snowy Hydro and the Housing 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.480 Future Fund. Now the student loan number, of course has 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.440 increased because the Albanesi government is for giving sixteen billion 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.480 dollars worth of student debt. So in effect, the government 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.720 uses this money, which isn't really counted in the budget, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.200 to achieve populist promises to buy off voters like writing 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.920 off student debt, and to achieve policy ends like funding 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.640 renewable energy. And because this money is spent directly on 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.680 things or putting money in people's hands, it is directly 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:16.040 inflationary and this is exactly what Reserve Bank Governor Michelle 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:22.280 Bullock has warned about high government spending fuels inflation economist 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.359 Chris Richardson told the AFR that discrepancy between the underlying 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.840 and headline figures had encouraged politicians to hide their trash there. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.280 He said, it's reached a point where the headline balance 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.080 is now becoming the figure that deserves more attention than 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.720 the underlying figure, and that is deliberately why they use 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.720 the other figure. The Center for Independent Studies also blew 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.120 the whistle on this last week in an excellent paper 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.760 by former Treasury official Gene Tunney. In his report, he 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.920 says that overall, off budget activities expand the reach of government, 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.360 are bad for transparency and new risks to government balance sheets, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.800 and ultimately can result in lower productivity and living standards. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.200 Off budget spending contributes to higher debt and interest payments, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:14.040 potentially leading to higher taxes, which can reduce productivity in 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.840 living standards. It also may exacerbate inflation. He writes that 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.240 much of the off budget spending in recent years has 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.360 been concerning, and that it will become more common as 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.760 quote a way for politicians to appear to be responding 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.719 to society's challenges while minimizing the direct budget impact, even 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.560 though they bring significant risks onto the balance sheet. The 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:42.159 report's conclusion says that taxpayers suffer through underperforming sorry investments 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.279 of taxpayer funds. It is bad for accountability and transparency 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.440 and makes the RBA's monetary policy task of controlling inflation 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.040 more difficult. In other words, this off budget spending, this 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.240 almost secret or hidden spending, if you like, under the 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.800 guise of investment, makes it's harder for you to get 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.280 an interest rate cut, all while the treasurer brags about 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:06.640 how good is budget numbers are. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:12.960 The Albanesi Labor government has delivered a second consecutive budget surplus. 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:14.520 We found savings in the budget. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.240 We delivered a second surplus. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.360 The big improvement is from less spending. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.440 We have turned two big. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.600 Liberal deficits into two big labored surpluses, bigger surplus, delivering 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.080 back to back budget surpluses for the first time in 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:28.240 nearly two decades. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.600 It's easy to appear a good economic manager when you're 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.279 pulling fiscal slights of hand, and that's effectively what the 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.680 Albanzi government has mastered. I mean, they push spending off 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.919 budget to hide from you what the books actually look like. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.400 They quote unquote reduce your power bill and the inflation 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.560 numbers in the process by giving your money that you 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.039 pay in taxes to your power company to essentially write 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.839 us off the bill. No changing cost, but it is 0:05:54.880 --> 0:06:01.320 a change in the numbers on the piece of paper. Now, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.400 if you're wondering why the ABC's viewership and listenership is 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.839 going through the floor, well, actually you probably do know, 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.400 because you're watching me instead of them for a reason. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.040 But just humor me for a moment. If you want 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.480 to know why, then just listen to its chairman Kim Williams. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.359 Today he was asked at the National Press Club about 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.280 the Joe Rogan effect, referring to the massive popularity the 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.479 biggest podcaster in the world and how the ABC should 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:27.880 adapt to a modern market. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.000 I'm not sure that I'm the right person to respond 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:37.480 to that question. I am not a consumer or enthusiast 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:43.120 about mister Rogan and his work. Shock, I am not 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:47.320 one of the three billion, and I'm unlikely to be 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:53.080 three billion and one anytime soon. I think people like 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:59.440 mister Rogan pray on people's vulnerabilities. They pray on fear, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:06.360 they pray on anxiety, they pray on all of the 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:12.280 elements that contribute to uncertainty. In society, and they entrepreneur 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:21.200 fantasy outcomes and conspiracy outcomes as being a normal part 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.320 of social narrative. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.480 So hang on a minute. The chairman of the National Broadcast, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.920 which has a large podcast, refuses to listen to one 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:35.000 of the most popular sorry podcast hosts in the world. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.280 I mean, has he no curiosity? It's his job to 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.120 listen to other people's products to know whether or not 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.720 his is any good. And not that I want to 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.080 be agist, but mister Williams is seventy two. Perhaps he 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.000 just hasn't quite moved with the times to chair a 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.000 media company in the modern world. And how can he 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.280 posit that Rogan is a conspiracy theorist when he doesn't 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.640 even listen to him. I mean, he's clearly just read 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.080 what someone else has said and taken it as gospel. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:05.200 But it got worse. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:12.000 I personally find it deeply repulsive, and to think that 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:18.960 someone has such remarkable power in the United States is 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:24.400 something that I look at him disbelief. I'm also absolutely 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.520 in dismay that this can be a source of public 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:35.240 entertainment when it's really treating the public as plunder for 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.880 purposes that are really quite malevolent. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.480 I mean, seriously, he just doesn't get it. Rogan has 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.600 about eleven million listeners per episode. Meanwhile, the ABC's radio 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.200 audience has been in free fall across most of the 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.000 country all year. The ABC just doesn't get it, and 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.200 it would seem they don't want to get it. Just 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.920 keep going down the same road and we'll see how 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:07.720 things turn out. Let's bring in now Liberal Senator Holly Hughes. Holly, welcome, 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.200 got It was an interesting time in the Senate today, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.719 wasn't it. Independent Senator Olidia Thorpe we found out this 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.320 evening has been suspended from the Senate after she tore 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.400 up motion papers and she stormed out of the chamber 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.520 flipping the bird. This was after and you can see 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.079 the photograph there, and there was this extraordinary meltdown from 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.880 fat Payment over paul In Hanson's attempt to initiate an 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.360 inquiry into her eligibility to be in Parliament due to 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.480 her Afghan citizenship. Here's a bit of how it unfolded. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.000 Because the documentation is not good enough, It would not 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.680 be good enough for anyone else here in this place. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.400 So why the protection racket is going on? 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.840 I don't know if that is not racist. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:51.520 What is it? 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.640 Senator Hansen has worn the burker in this place. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.040 Maybe it's time that she pack her burker and go 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.280 to Afghanistan and. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.400 Talk to the talib about this. I kept on giving you. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.400 The benefit of the doubt, Senator Hansen. 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:09.720 Despite your repetitive attempts to be racist to anyone who. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.040 Does not look like you. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.040 You're not just vindictive, mean nasty. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.760 You bring disgrace to the human race. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:19.920 I think the look on the face of Ralph for 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.400 Babet sitting behind Fatima payment there just about says at all. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.320 But I mean, this would have to be one of 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:30.559 the most extraordinarily childish displays on the part of both 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.280 Payment and Lydia Thorpe that I have ever seen in 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:35.320 Australian Parliament. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.400 So I actually feel like I need to take some 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.400 ownership here. I was on chamber duty yesterday in the 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:50.520 Ministerial seat when Pauline wanted to table the document with 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.760 regards to Fatima payment. It had gone to all the 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.640 whips the night before. Everyone had agreed that she would 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.920 be allowed to table these documents, which did not mean 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:07.880 Pauline would speak to them, and Marine Feruki actually did 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.000 not give her leave and for those not obsessed with 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:17.679 Senate process, any senator can deny leave to speak. So Pauline, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.200 as she was walking out of the chamber, I said 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.600 to well, well, why didn't you suspend standing orders? And 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.760 she sort of looked at me and went, I means 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.000 I can speak to it, can't I? And I went, oh, 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.240 yes you can. So I kind of feel like I 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.920 need to take some o ownership here to my part. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:42.080 But it happened this morning, and having been someone who 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.320 was struck out of the Senate by the High Court, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.200 mine was because apparently the election never ended in twenty sixteen, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.840 and therefore me taking a role meant that had officer 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.480 profit under the Crown, and I was neligible to stand. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.280 There's a lot of us that have been through Section 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.440 forty fours sitting in that place, and Senator Payment does 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.160 have some serious questions to answer. She did not take 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.839 reasonable steps. She is not written to anyone, She has 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.480 not endeavored in any official form to renounce her citizenship. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:20.400 But it is actually the Greens behavior, by purely and 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:26.959 simply vindictiveness denying Senator Hanson from tabling documents has led 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:31.400 to this whole frakka. But what happened with Senator Thought 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:36.720 today was I have to say, one of the more 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:41.439 disturbing things I've seen. She ripped up papers in Senator 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.880 Hanson's face and then threw them in her face. Now, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:51.520 I actually bumped into one of the press gallery photographers 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.840 this afternoon and I said, oh, I guess we're seeing 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:58.400 you later today because we knew the suspension motion was coming. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:03.040 But his comment may was thank goodness someone is doing 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.200 something because the next thing she does, or the next 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:11.160 thing that someone does, could potentially be physical. This is 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.840 not acceptable in any workplace at all, and it is 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:20.520 completely unacceptable behavior. But we're talking about this tonight and 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:25.880 the suspension is quite a momentous occasion, and the Greens 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.400 opposed it, and I mean, it just shows their blatant hypocrisy. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:35.640 And I'm reasonably confident because, like you, Caleb, I love 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.319 our sky viewers and I'm pretty sure none of them 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:44.400 vote Green. But to check the grains, well, they're paying 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:49.000 for a subscription unlike the ABC, to watch sensible opinion. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.160 But the Greens oppose. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.200 This, and they oppose this because Samainfall is due to 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.800 have a private Senator's Members bill in tomorrow on the 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:06.080 alleged genocide, but has from what I've heard and understand, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.800 around one hundred or more supporters coming for the senator members' bills. So, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.920 for those of us that know Lidiar, I think we 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.320 can safely assume there will be some form of attempted 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:25.840 entrance into the Senate because of this suspension. Under two 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.720 oh three of the standing orders, the black Rod is 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:34.440 entitled to block her entrance. Now, the black Rod is 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:40.400 a very big pseudo almost. I mean it's the staff. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.880 It's not a sword, but it's a big piece of gear. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.000 The Black Rod is entitled to hold her to that 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.720 and not allow her entrance. So you know, who knows. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.360 Maybe she sets a fire up into the entrance to 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:56.040 the chamber. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:56.880 I mean, it's. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:01.680 Just just don't know what this. No, no, you do 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.560 not know what this woman. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:07.280 It will be extraordinary seeing you tomorrow night. The conversation 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:12.640 will be about what happens tomorrow. Yes, I cannot imagine 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.160 Lydia is going to let this. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.920 Snib and look, we know what Lydia Thorpe is like, 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.680 the fact that she's even still there is just incredible. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.400 Holly Hughes, thank you so much for your time. Now, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.560 I know it might sound a bit like saying this 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.800 guy is blue, but and you read Ridge Pole has 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.480 found that Australians say the Alban Eazy government has the 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.680 wrong priorities and that they are no better off since 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.320 the PM was elected. And for the first time, this 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.600 poll says that the majority of people think Peter Dutton 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.720 is ready to lead the country, which is well up 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.040 from being twenty points behind a year ago. To discuss 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.240 this and more, I'm joined now by former Victorian Liberal 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:53.880 Party president Michael Kroger and Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Michael, 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.680 I think we all sort of had this in the 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.120 back of our head, certainly those of us here, all 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.520 three of us certainly would have thought this, But we 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.280 have it in black and white now that the majority 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.440 of Australians know and feel that they have gone backwards 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:09.400 under this government. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.920 Well, there are eerie similarities between the political dynamic of 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.120 play in Australia and that in America. There are some 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.560 obvious differences, of course, which we all know, but there 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:29.680 are some serious parallels. And what Albanezi doesn't understand what 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:35.800 these cosmopolitan inner city elites, these rootless cosmopolitans, as they 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.280 call them, the wealthy, upper class left wing elite here 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:45.080 in America don't understand is that the working middle class, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:50.120 the working class are actually very proud people, and they're 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.600 very proud of their achievements. They're interested in personal security, 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.120 which is their job, providing for their family, roof over 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:01.400 the head, for the kids, contributing to their community. And 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.800 these people are proud and they don't want to be 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.199 lectured to by Albanesi that they're dumb people without an education. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.679 You haven't got a university degree, Oh my goodness. You know, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.520 you don't go to the arts festivals, you don't watch 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:15.440 the ABC, et cetera, et cetera. And for as long 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.080 as Albo has lost the plot completely, which he has, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.720 and as part of the inner City, you know, Cambridg 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.640 Literati Labour's fortunes will continue to decline. And as I said, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.840 for weeks now, I think Dutton's favorite to win the election, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.440 and I think people are very comfortable with Peter Dutton 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:31.399 coming in as prime minister. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:32.360 Yeah. Well, this is the thing. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.520 I mean a lot of people have criticized Upton for 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.200 a long time for not being personable enough, and oh 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.040 you know, people think he's bold and mortnal this sort 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.760 of nonsense. And I have said for some time Gary 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.120 that you just give him time and he will come 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.360 into his own and people will compare him to Albanesi, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.960 and I'll go, Actually, this bloke looks like, sounds like, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.320 acts like a leader, and I think people have realized 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.399 that now. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.200 I've known Peter Dutton for thirty five years of it. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.080 As far as I'm concerned, he's a very personable bloke, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.199 a really terrific sense of humor. You know, he's just 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:12.040 he's really very down to earth, although amazingly tall and look. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.479 I think the guy the times will suit him. And 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.520 the point is that Peter is a bloke who's achieved things, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.919 but he doesn't act as though he is morally and 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.760 intellectually superior to everybody else. And that is really the 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.000 type of people Michael's just talking about. They believe they 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.040 are morally and intellectually superior to everybody else, and they 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.280 lauded over us. They think that the smartest people in 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.280 every room. Peter is a bloke who enters the room 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.640 and wants to meet people, wants to listen to them, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.600 actually wants to relate to them, who actually sticks up 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.320 for the trades, in the everyday doers, and that's the 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.320 sort of person I want as a Prime minister. I 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.600 reckon a lot more Australians are warming to that idea 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.439 on an hourly basis for acting. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.480 Now, this is interesting. The Sydney Morning Herald was reporting 0:18:55.480 --> 0:19:00.399 today that environment, our Environment Minister, sorry Tanya Plibasic, about 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.159 to secure a deal with the Greens last night to 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.680 establish a federal environmental protection agency. This was, of course 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.520 a promise that Labor made before the election, but the 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.520 PM intervened at the last minute and canceled the deal 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.520 because he was apparently worried it had given too much 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.040 rope to the Greens and it had turned into an 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.000 election issue next year. And they'd apparently been so confident 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.760 of a deal that journo's had been briefed to expect 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.840 an announcement last night, but at the last minute Michael 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.160 Albow comes through and says it's not happening. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:34.120 Yeah, amazing. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.439 But again, this is all about politics. This is all 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.359 about seats in Western Sia. It's got nothing to do 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.280 with the principle. He's been in favor of this principle 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.800 four years now. He ran for election on this policy. 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.560 But as soon as his pulses tell him there are 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:51.200 seats at risk in Western Australia because of this, he'll 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.800 lose three or four seats in WA. He's rung up 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.320 and junk the policy. But this is typical of Albow. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.360 There's no great principles involved any more. Everything's about politics, 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.679 as we see from the disgusting display he's put on 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.000 in relation to the Jewish community in Western said to 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.360 win seats in Western Sydney. It's one of the other 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.359 reasons why people have lost people have lost confidence in 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:12.760 this blake. 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.719 Yeah, most definitely. Now when I read this story after say, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.160 I nearly fell off my chair. The former Victorian CFM 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:23.919 you boss John Setka, he's launched a worker's compo, claim 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.000 saying that he's suffering from PTSD from running the Construction 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.440 Union Gary. He says that there's a number of things 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.399 that led to this. He received death threats apparently in 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.840 the job. But I mean, for heaven's sake, you're running 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.560 the CFMU, which we all know is full of thugs, 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.400 So what did you expect? He said when they had 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.280 that big protest out the front of the CFMU office, 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.320 when he wouldn't back in construction workers against vaccine mandates 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:54.159 that that contributed to his PTSD. I mean, could the 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:55.800 CFMU story get any better? 0:20:55.840 --> 0:21:00.080 Gary Well, I'm so sorry that he's having a metal 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.680 health crisis, but think of the one that the CFMU 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.640 is inflicted upon every day Australians. The cost of building's 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.640 gone thirty forty percent. They've wrought at every building site 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.679 they've been on. As far as I'm concerned, under the 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.440 guys of safety, it's back to the sort of staff 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.560 that the late warre Perry is to report on in 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.679 his Wrought report. I mean the nineteen eighty seven Wrought report. 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:25.000 I'll never forget the Darling Harbor project was in full 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.640 swing and the people on the work sites were smelling 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.400 Chinese food coming out of Chinatown in Sydney, and they 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.040 got and they were awarded a dim sim allowance, Caleb 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.679 because of the smell that got them back to work. 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.480 This is the sort of stuff that's ruined Australia's ability 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:46.280 to make anything anywhere. And Setka, I'm so sorry he's 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:50.399 having mental health issues because that's a serious claim. I 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.480 wish him well in his bid, but it seems like 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.800 money fixes everything in the CFMEU so good on him. 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.480 Yes, yes, sir, you are correct. If it is indeed true, 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.200 then then we wish him the best. But you've given 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:01.720 me an idea. 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:02.000 Gary. 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.440 There's a KFC down the road from our studios here 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.760 and I sometimes smell it, so I'm going to get 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:08.280 a KFC. 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:08.560 Alow. 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.520 Let's Michael Kroger, Gary Yard, great, thank you so much 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.000 for you. It's time still to come. The truth between 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.280 Israel and Hesbla has begun with hopes for lasting calm 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.480 in the Middle East. But what happens next that story after. 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:24.120 The break well. 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.720 Israel had a major win today with a cease fire 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.679 deal negotiated with Hezbolla in Lebanon, who they've been at 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.480 war with for nearly two months now. It means that 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.280 over sixty days, Lebanese forces will move into the south 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.000 and Israeli forces will pull out of the south and 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.800 go back to Israel, and Hezbla will have to move 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.280 north of the Latani River, which is what they were 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.960 meant to have done back in two thousand and six. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.639 In a joint statement, the US and France said the 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:53.480 agreement would cease fighting in Lebanon and secure Israel from 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:57.439 the threat of Hezbala and other terrorist organizations. Foreign Minister 0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:59.080 Penny Wong welcome the news today. 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.520 The people of Lebanon will welcome this cease far, the 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.919 people of Israel will welcome this seas far. What I 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.720 would say is that we hope that this is a 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:14.040 catalyst for a broader cease far in the region and 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:15.760 we look forward to the day when there is a 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.320