Speaker 1: Lately.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debate.
Speaker 3: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late
Speaker 3: Debate James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Freyer Leitch coming
Speaker 3: up tonight. Why do people as they get older start
Speaker 3: making noises every time they move?
Speaker 4: Don't look at me as if I'm the one to
Speaker 4: answer it, Freyer.
Speaker 3: But that question was asked of Adoptor's Advice column in
Speaker 3: his paper at the weekend. We'll tell you what they
Speaker 3: said a little later. Plus when we look at what's
Speaker 3: making news tomorrow, the government's green dreams in tatters as
Speaker 3: the price of green hydrogen set to explode metaphorically, of course,
Speaker 3: and calls for Aboriginal Australians facing court to have their
Speaker 3: cases dealt with by a female judge to ensure cultural safety.
Speaker 3: Will get to all of that a little later, but
Speaker 3: let's start with former Prime Minister Scott Morrison.
Speaker 4: Here's a question, does he deserve to be.
Speaker 3: Named in the King's Birthday honors list as he was today?
Speaker 3: Living aside the question about whether or not politicians should
Speaker 3: be recipients at all, there is the question of Morrison's
Speaker 3: leadership during the COVID nineteen pandemic, which was given as
Speaker 3: a prime reason for him being made a Companion of
Speaker 3: the Order of Australia. Today, I've got to be honest,
Speaker 3: I don't see why he would be honored for that.
Speaker 3: I'll give him this, it was a very difficult time
Speaker 3: in our history, unprecedented even I'll also give him this.
Speaker 3: I think he did a much better job than Bill
Speaker 3: Shorten or god forbid, Anthony Albaneze would have done had
Speaker 3: they been in charge at the time. But I'm just
Speaker 3: finding it hard to get my head around, Caleb and Freyer,
Speaker 3: how you could be Prime Minister of this nation at
Speaker 3: a time when human rights were trashed right across the
Speaker 3: country and get.
Speaker 2: Rewarded for it. It is strange. We should note, of course,
Speaker 2: that a lot of the things that were done during
Speaker 2: COVID were done by the States.
Speaker 4: But I want to come back to now, will the FED.
Speaker 2: Set up this national idea right? And the idea was
Speaker 2: everyone would get in a room and they would all
Speaker 2: come up with one idea and then they would all
Speaker 2: walk out of the room as a united group and
Speaker 2: do the same thing that very clearly didn't.
Speaker 3: Happen, which was a failure of leadership. And this is
Speaker 3: convened by Morrison.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm coming to. If you're the chairman
Speaker 2: of the board and the chairman of the board fails
Speaker 2: to get his members in line, then he's failed on
Speaker 2: that count, and that Morrison certainly failed on that count.
Speaker 2: I'll give him credit for a number of things. Certainly
Speaker 2: been one of the first people in the world to
Speaker 2: take up the fight to China on the origins of COVID,
Speaker 2: and he absolutely deserves applause for that and has never
Speaker 2: received as much as he deserved. And of course we
Speaker 2: were punished as a country for him doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: But you know, why do you deserve to get an
Speaker 2: ac for doing your job right? I mean the Order
Speaker 2: of Australia should be about people who have gone above
Speaker 2: and beyond their calling to do great things for the
Speaker 2: country and the community. If you're the Prime Minister and
Speaker 2: you've led the country through a time of crisis, I
Speaker 2: mean that's what you were employed to do. You weren't
Speaker 2: a volunteer. You didn't put yourself on the line in
Speaker 2: a situation that you didn't need to be in. Who
Speaker 2: haven't dedicated your life to doing things in your spare time.
Speaker 2: You were being compensated for doing that work. Am I
Speaker 2: that upset about it? No, because every other prime minister's
Speaker 2: had one as well as who is just another one
Speaker 2: in the long line, except for Paul Keating who refused one.
Speaker 2: But really, why do you deserve to get one for
Speaker 2: doing your job? You don't need a pat on the
Speaker 2: back to be told you did a good job as
Speaker 2: prime minister. The record can show whether or not you
Speaker 2: did a good job as prime minister, and I suppose
Speaker 2: in the end the record will show that Morrison's government
Speaker 2: was turfed.
Speaker 5: But I think the point as well, though, is that
Speaker 5: anyone who voluntarily takes up the role of Prime minister,
Speaker 5: who puts themselves into the public eye, who dedicates their
Speaker 5: life to public service, who puts their family at risk,
Speaker 5: who works tirelessly for the nation, should be honored. Whether
Speaker 5: you agree with the policies of certain prime ministers or not,
Speaker 5: I would say that I still do think the majority
Speaker 5: of our leaders hopefully do it out of public service
Speaker 5: and not out of personal gain, and that in and
Speaker 5: of itself should be honored.
Speaker 6: Prime ministers work harder than a lot of logic.
Speaker 3: Though, wouldn't you just give an Order of Australia to
Speaker 3: every single Prime minister.
Speaker 6: Well, they basically do too.
Speaker 4: Actually, I mean that's a dumb idea, right what everyone?
Speaker 2: I mean everyone deserves one because they've done some great
Speaker 2: work for the country, don't they.
Speaker 4: Want every nurse doctor?
Speaker 2: And surely the honor of the job is to have
Speaker 2: been prime minister at all.
Speaker 5: I agree the honor is to be prime minister. But
Speaker 5: it is also true that our prime ministers do work
Speaker 5: exceptionally hard, do put themselves in the public eye, do
Speaker 5: compromise their family.
Speaker 6: Think of someone like Peter Dutton.
Speaker 5: He has had twenty four to seven police guard federal
Speaker 5: Police Guard.
Speaker 6: On him since the mid twenty ten.
Speaker 5: His children have not known a life without being under
Speaker 5: constant surveillance. He can't go to a restaurant or a
Speaker 5: cafe or the grocery store, probably even now. And so
Speaker 5: I do think that politicians and certainly the Prime minister,
Speaker 5: put themselves in a unique position of leadership that we
Speaker 5: should honor. And often it's easy to disparage them and go,
Speaker 5: oh they did this wrong and that wrong, but ultimately
Speaker 5: they were just seeing.
Speaker 3: Such So what about Scott Morrison, do you reckon he
Speaker 3: deserves this specifically? I mean they named his leadership during
Speaker 3: the COVID pandemic as a key reason that he should
Speaker 3: be held up as a great Australian.
Speaker 4: You're going to go with.
Speaker 5: That, well, I think that a lot of the worst
Speaker 5: measures were done by the state premiers.
Speaker 6: And interestingly, in an interview.
Speaker 5: Scott Morrison gave to The Australian upon the announcement of
Speaker 5: his recognition, he actually said that he didn't support the
Speaker 5: universal vaccine mandates, he didn't support the school closures. So
Speaker 5: could he have been more vocal at the time, yes,
Speaker 5: but I know for a fact that behind the scenes
Speaker 5: and internally he was not happy with that decisions of
Speaker 5: the states. But then also the other factor that was
Speaker 5: considered was also his leadership in Orcus and our alliance
Speaker 5: with the United States and the UK, so there were
Speaker 5: other things that were considered as well. But really I
Speaker 5: think we just honor every prime minister with this, and
Speaker 5: so they were probably just picking out the most notable
Speaker 5: elements of his prime ministership and using that as the expt.
Speaker 3: I just will never get over the fact that at
Speaker 3: the start of the pandemic, the government led by Scott
Speaker 3: Morrison had a pandemic plan in the bottom draw put
Speaker 3: together by Tony Abbott as Health Minister, and that was
Speaker 3: discarded and we turned the country into a satellite effectively
Speaker 3: of communist China with lockdowns. And you're right, it was
Speaker 3: labor premiers and they played a very political game and
Speaker 3: they loved power, but it was power ceded to them
Speaker 3: by Scott Morrison when he called them all in and
Speaker 3: he believed that he could corral them and lead them
Speaker 3: in the same direction. Failed abysmally at that. And I'm
Speaker 3: not knocking Scott Morrison. It was a difficult time, but
Speaker 3: I don't see how you should be rewarded when Australians
Speaker 3: underwent such torturous human rights abuses and he was the
Speaker 3: prime minister.
Speaker 1: Job.
Speaker 2: I would warn against revisionism of Morrison's time as Prime
Speaker 2: minister as well, because he did at many points support
Speaker 2: publicly lockdowns, including in Western Australia where they remained lockdown
Speaker 2: well after the rest of the country, and Morrison still
Speaker 2: backed in Western Australia doing that, So he certainly supported
Speaker 2: that element.
Speaker 3: And he went very close to supporting vaccine mandates as well,
Speaker 3: but you.
Speaker 2: Know, nearly didn't. So he now says that's that's the
Speaker 2: state's fault. But you know. Look, if Daniel Andrews can
Speaker 2: can get a gong for his leadership in public health,
Speaker 2: that's what happened last year, then I suppose.
Speaker 4: If you're going to use that as the media.
Speaker 2: Is the least of ours. While we're talking about federal politics,
Speaker 2: we know not just the politicians, but the bureaucracy. One
Speaker 2: of the things they excel in is spending your money,
Speaker 2: and today's installment of money being in the rich man's world.
Speaker 2: It's the fact that there is at least one and
Speaker 2: a half million dollars of furniture for Parliament House currently
Speaker 2: being kept in storage. We don't entirely know why it
Speaker 2: is all sitting in storage, but according to the Department,
Speaker 2: there is one hundred sorry one and a half million
Speaker 2: dollars worth sitting in storage, including forty nine hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty in twenty one TV cabinets, forty thousand, one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty two dollars of fourteen cocktail and TV cabinets,
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand, five hundred and eighty eight dollars of
Speaker 2: executive desks eleven of them. The Department also admitted that
Speaker 2: after spending twenty three thousand, four hundred and sixty three
Speaker 2: dollars and sixty four cents on planning and design for
Speaker 2: a six stand desk for parliamentarians and eleven eight hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety five dollars and two cents on constructing It
Speaker 2: had deemed it not feasible to retrofit existing desks or
Speaker 2: sit stand capability, and it was an ongoing project. They
Speaker 2: have spent more than nearly four million dollars on furniture
Speaker 2: in the last decade alone, and now one and a
Speaker 2: half million dollars of it is sitting in two warehouses
Speaker 2: somewhere off site. Now, you know, I understand every now
Speaker 2: and again you might update your furniture, but I am
Speaker 2: a prolific user of Facebook, Marketplace and auction houses. So
Speaker 2: I will give a little tip to the bureaucrats at
Speaker 2: Parliament House. Just put it all on a truck, send
Speaker 2: it down to Lawsons where I go every Thursday, and
Speaker 2: just sell it at auction. What the hell are we
Speaker 2: doing with one and a half million dollars of furniture
Speaker 2: unused in warehouses?
Speaker 3: I had to last at that, you know, thousands of
Speaker 3: dollars on a what do they call it?
Speaker 4: A sit stand desk?
Speaker 3: Some wag in the Australian Comments section wrote, why would
Speaker 3: any of our politicians need a six stand desk Parliament?
Speaker 3: And our politicians never stand for anything, But when a
Speaker 3: public servant believes they deserve a twenty thousand dollar desk,
Speaker 3: that's when you know you've got a culture of entitlement
Speaker 3: in Canberra. And we all believe Parliament House should look good.
Speaker 3: You know, it shouldn't be like, you know, furniture from
Speaker 3: Ikea that's delivered in a flat pack and put together.
Speaker 2: It's our national teaching a thing or two actually.
Speaker 3: Indeed, but it's our national government place of meeting.
Speaker 4: It should look good.
Speaker 3: I don't begrudge them spending money on furniture, but to
Speaker 3: have one half million dollars worth sitting in storage somewhere like,
Speaker 3: sell it to Caleb, he'll buy it, he's got the money.
Speaker 2: Is it any good or not? Still? No?
Speaker 5: I loved the twenty thousand dollars desk that was custom
Speaker 5: made for a senior bureau.
Speaker 6: Just for it to be put into storage.
Speaker 5: But then after public outcry because this all came out
Speaker 5: in senate estimates earlier this year, they apparently have now
Speaker 5: taken it out of storage and it's now being used again,
Speaker 5: so probably after this story, they're now going to do
Speaker 5: a clearance of all their storage units. But not only
Speaker 5: do you have the wasted value one point five million
Speaker 5: dollars of furniture sitting there, you're also paying for it
Speaker 5: to sit in storage. It's just a waste of money
Speaker 5: no matter where you look. So yeah, flog it on
Speaker 5: Facebook market places.
Speaker 3: You've got storage. I presume it's all insured. There was
Speaker 3: also a sixty thousand dollars lounge.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's in storage.
Speaker 6: I'll have that kind of lounges. Sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: All the lounge you don't need because it's sitting in stall.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's very impressive.
Speaker 5: Look our our good friend, the Swedish doom Goblin, as
Speaker 5: she's been called here on Sky News, has been detained
Speaker 5: by Israeli defense forces off the coast of Gaza. She
Speaker 5: describes it as a kidnapping, which is rather insulting to
Speaker 5: the fifty five hostages still being held in Gaza for
Speaker 5: six hundred.
Speaker 6: And eleven days.
Speaker 5: But it really is just quite staggering the victim complex
Speaker 5: that they have. Gazans are literally risky their lives to
Speaker 5: protest against Haamas while they're sailing towards Hermas only condemning Israel,
Speaker 5: making no mention of the hostages, no mention of October seven.
Speaker 5: The double standards are honestly, really really shocking.
Speaker 6: So what do you guys, reckon?
Speaker 5: Will Israel have to show her the October seven footage?
Speaker 6: I've heard that as one of the options.
Speaker 5: Another one is organized a tour for her of Israel
Speaker 5: to see the apartheip for herself. Obviously, what she'll realize
Speaker 5: is twenty percent of the country is actually Arab Muslim
Speaker 5: and living perfectly happily in the supposed apartheid stay. But
Speaker 5: it really is interesting. Here's a little clip of her
Speaker 5: being detained by the Israelis.
Speaker 7: My name is Giffa Timber and I am from Sweden.
Speaker 7: If you see this video, we have been intercepted and
Speaker 7: kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational forces or
Speaker 7: forces that support israel. I. Urge all my friends, family
Speaker 7: and comrades to put pressure on the Swedish government to
Speaker 7: release me and the others as soon as possible.
Speaker 5: So these profound humanitarian activists and all the aid they
Speaker 5: were carrying, well, it amounted to less than a truckload
Speaker 5: over one thousand truckloads have entered Gaza in the last
Speaker 5: two weeks, so so much for this wonderful, miraculous humanitarian convoy.
Speaker 3: I had to laugh at Greta's video there, saying, if
Speaker 3: you were watching this video, it is evidence that I've
Speaker 3: been kidnapped by the IDF. She wishes, I mean, better
Speaker 3: to be kidnapped by the IDF than by her mask,
Speaker 3: which was the other option she was facing. And of
Speaker 3: course I think she wanted to be intercepted by the
Speaker 3: IDF because now she gets exactly what she was after.
Speaker 4: We had protests outside.
Speaker 3: Anti Albanesi's office today calling for Greta to be released
Speaker 3: by the IDF. We had Turkey calling Israel a terra
Speaker 3: state for kidnapping Greta Tunberg. We had the Iranians accusing
Speaker 3: Israel of piracy, and we had the United Nations Reperteur
Speaker 3: on Human Rights, Francesca Alberanzi saying that every port in
Speaker 3: the Mediterranean should be sending boats.
Speaker 4: With aid and solidarity.
Speaker 3: So it's not just about aid, it's also a political
Speaker 3: movement that's by her own admission, and that's exactly what
Speaker 3: Greta wanted. She never wanted to get to Gaza because
Speaker 3: that would.
Speaker 4: Have been awkward.
Speaker 3: What she wanted was to be intercepted by the IDF
Speaker 3: to have her moment.
Speaker 4: The only thing she.
Speaker 3: Didn't get was she didn't get aggressive nasty Israeli soldiers,
Speaker 3: which would have topped it off instead. And we saw
Speaker 3: some footage earlier where they're sitting in their life jackets
Speaker 3: being handed bottles of water and sandwiches by the very
Speaker 3: nice members of the IDF, who, as he said, Freyer,
Speaker 3: will show her a video of the atrocities committed on
Speaker 3: October seven. Penny Wong was on the boat because she
Speaker 3: could do with seeing that video and maybe Anthony Albanizi
Speaker 3: could get on a boat to Gaza, be intercepted by
Speaker 3: the IDF and see that video as well. But then
Speaker 3: she returned safely to her home. As the IDF have said,
Speaker 3: kidnapping not a bit she wishes.
Speaker 2: Well, well, let's be clear that the main contents of
Speaker 2: that boat is fossil fuels and hot air. But this
Speaker 2: is why they should have just let her sail on
Speaker 2: to Gaza. And as you said, they have given her
Speaker 2: exactly what she wanted, which is the photo opportunity to say, oh,
Speaker 2: I've been manhandled by the IDF and I've been taken
Speaker 2: away and they won't let me go to Gaza. Just
Speaker 2: let her go to Gaza. What did Israel have to
Speaker 2: lose in doing so? She'd rock up there if she
Speaker 2: meets some Hamas terrorists, that's her problem. I don't particularly care.
Speaker 2: By intercepting her, they've now created the perception or the
Speaker 2: image which she will now run with. And that's very
Speaker 2: clear from her video that the IDF has interfered in
Speaker 2: her opportunity to express her free speech and go about
Speaker 2: her free will, and you can't possibly go there. That's
Speaker 2: what she will now run with. So just let her
Speaker 2: make land and do what she wants. It's not our problem.
Speaker 5: No, But if she'd actually been able to land in Gaza,
Speaker 5: her mass would have used her for the ultimate propaganda stunt,
Speaker 5: just as they did when they were releasing the hostages.
Speaker 5: It would all be orchestrated, all to make Israel look
Speaker 5: terrible and her masks look wonderful.
Speaker 2: What's the propaganda stunt with gret With Greta off it,
Speaker 2: what we're going to do?
Speaker 5: Paraded Greta around, showing her the scenes of the genocide.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what they would have done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but to the peopleship. But who is that for?
Speaker 2: Is that for the people in Gaza outside you know.
Speaker 5: For the Western world, for the people outside of Gaza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyone who already agrees with Greater agrees with greater,
Speaker 2: and everyone who hates Greta hates greater. So what is
Speaker 2: using her as a propaganda to do to help?
Speaker 5: Well, what does any ha mass propaganda tool? Do People
Speaker 5: want an excuse to hate Israel and it gives them
Speaker 5: more of an excuse.
Speaker 3: Anyone who thinks israled in the wrong thing by preventing
Speaker 3: these people getting to a war zone clearly is biased
Speaker 3: in the first place.
Speaker 4: I mean it's her business.
Speaker 2: That's her business.
Speaker 3: Like if she wants to go to a wars, Israel
Speaker 3: getting hit on both sides, right, So they're accused of.
Speaker 2: I'm not hitting Israel. I'm not gonna hit Israel. As
Speaker 2: they letter get there, I'm to say, let her go.
Speaker 2: If you're an idiot, if you're dumb enough to get
Speaker 2: on a boat and float yourself into a war zone,
Speaker 2: good luck to you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying people say Israel have to keep you know,
Speaker 3: civilians safe in a war zone. So if they were
Speaker 3: allowed to if they if they were allowed to allow
Speaker 3: these civilians into a war zone, well then they'd be
Speaker 3: accused of not doing that.
Speaker 2: Oh, should just be more Darwinian about it. If you
Speaker 2: get yourself in trouble, you get yourself in trouble. I
Speaker 2: don't care.
Speaker 3: Let's come back to Australia, Sydney in particular. If you
Speaker 3: walk around the CBD, there's lots of monuments that you
Speaker 3: can check out. There's monuments of Captain Cook. Why would
Speaker 3: there be a monument of Captain Cook. Well, he sailed
Speaker 3: across oceans at a time when that.
Speaker 4: Was incredibly perilous.
Speaker 3: There's statues of Matthew Flinders who are circumnavigated inside or
Speaker 3: in shore.
Speaker 4: Australia.
Speaker 3: Was the first person to do it, Robert Burns, the
Speaker 3: famous Scottish poet. But of course the problem with all
Speaker 3: these statues, as is regularly pointed.
Speaker 4: Out, is that they are of white men.
Speaker 3: Well, you can breathe easy, because that problem is about
Speaker 3: to be addressed with a multimillion dollar five point five
Speaker 3: meter high statue about to be erected at Sydney's Circular
Speaker 3: Key of an Aboriginal woman who is also part whale.
Speaker 4: Coming up out of the ocean.
Speaker 3: The statue, as you can see on your screen there
Speaker 3: will be called Black Women Rising and the artist Ellison
Speaker 3: Page says the statue will speak to female power in
Speaker 3: a white man's world.
Speaker 4: She told media today this CBD.
Speaker 3: Is peppered with monuments of white men in history, and
Speaker 3: they are done in a way that is colonial.
Speaker 4: It's all linear.
Speaker 3: They're standing on sandstone plinths and doing something heroic, which
Speaker 3: is kind of the point of why you have a
Speaker 3: statue of someone because they did something heroic. She goes
Speaker 3: on to say, this bronze bubbles at the base as
Speaker 3: if she's forming out of water, as if she's this
Speaker 3: superhero with her energy and essence living within the Aboriginal
Speaker 3: women of Sydney today. She is everyone, every black woman,
Speaker 3: every mother, daughter, sister, auntie.
Speaker 4: She is country. I don't know if.
Speaker 3: That inspired either of you. It didn't inspire me. It
Speaker 3: kind of confused me because I sort of thought, if
Speaker 3: you're a bit annoyed that there's too many white men
Speaker 3: being honored with statues in Sydney, then by all means
Speaker 3: erect a monument to a black woman in Sydney. But
Speaker 3: maybe erect a monument to an actual black woman, not
Speaker 3: a mythical black creature half woman, half whale, and maybe
Speaker 3: honor a black woman or indeed an Indigenous man for
Speaker 3: something of note that they did. The artist says that
Speaker 3: white men are honored for heroic deeds, well honor an
Speaker 3: indigenous person for heroic deeds. There's plenty of indigenous people
Speaker 3: you could nominate who've done outstanding things.
Speaker 4: Why this mythical creature? I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Nivel Bonna. I mean, I suppose not
Speaker 2: a woman. So won't fit this particular idea, will it.
Speaker 2: I have to say, though, I'm not sure who's funded
Speaker 2: this because it's not clear whether it's funded by the
Speaker 2: council or by Lyndlease, because it's going in front of
Speaker 2: an apartment development. Right, If Lindles is paying for it,
Speaker 2: and they're paying a significant sum of money for it,
Speaker 2: then a free kick to them. You can do whatever
Speaker 2: the hell you want with your private money. If it
Speaker 2: turns out that there is public money being tipped into this,
Speaker 2: then it's a completely different story. But I have to say,
Speaker 2: as meaningless as this thing actually is, it's much better
Speaker 2: than most public art we see these days. I mean,
Speaker 2: there is absolute garbage around. So a big bronze statue
Speaker 2: of a half while half woman thing actually won't be
Speaker 2: that bad to look at compared to most of the
Speaker 2: we're subjected to now.
Speaker 6: But this is the thing.
Speaker 5: No one actually wants to go see modern art anymore.
Speaker 5: Many modern art galleries are struggling to attract visitors, so
Speaker 5: now they have to put it in the public sphere,
Speaker 5: so you can't possibly avoid it. This is just a
Speaker 5: way of getting people to look at terrible art. But
Speaker 5: it's also something that is not particularly original to Sydney.
Speaker 5: There are now bronze statues of random people in Florence,
Speaker 5: like this one of a black woman holding looking.
Speaker 6: At her phone.
Speaker 5: There's a similar one in a Times Square of an
Speaker 5: overweight black woman standing there. It's the glorification of the mundane,
Speaker 5: and it's not beautiful. It's not inspiring. It doesn't draw
Speaker 5: us higher into something transcendent. It doesn't inspire us to
Speaker 5: the heroic like those colonial statues do. I have no
Speaker 5: issue putting indigenous people into statues, but isn't it a
Speaker 5: little insulting to these successful Aboriginal women. You should be
Speaker 5: in the statue versus some fake mythological whale.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give us a specific example of someone that we
Speaker 3: can all admire and say, you know what, that person
Speaker 3: is a great role model, rather than a vague generality,
Speaker 3: which this monument is.
Speaker 2: And notwithstanding that, toppling a five meter tall bronze statue
Speaker 2: of this magnitude would be an exceptionally difficult task. But
Speaker 2: I do wonder if someone decides to lop it over
Speaker 2: many times whether they will say, oh, we won't put
Speaker 2: it back up again, because it would be too expensive
Speaker 2: to do so, as of course they have done with
Speaker 2: monuments to Captain Cook, who, by the way, was not
Speaker 2: involved in the first fleet or the colonization of this country.
Speaker 2: Let's go over to the United States. Of course, you
Speaker 2: would have seen these riots going on in LA right now.
Speaker 2: All of this sparked by, of course, Donald Trump doing
Speaker 2: what Donald Trump said Donald Trump would do, which is
Speaker 2: to deport illegal migrants from the United States. And because
Speaker 2: there has been a sweep through LA, they've rounded up
Speaker 2: a bunch of illegal migrants, many of them criminals, and
Speaker 2: deported them overseas. Are now being held in El Salvadorian
Speaker 2: prisons for at least a year, and then they'll work
Speaker 2: out what to do with them again after that. But
Speaker 2: the violence scenes that you have seen, and you can
Speaker 2: see some of it on the screen here, people rioting,
Speaker 2: setting self driving cars on fire. Of course, Donald Trump's
Speaker 2: now sent out the National Guard. People are having rubber
Speaker 2: bullets fired at them, And will come back to that
Speaker 2: in the moment, because I'm sure you've seen the footage
Speaker 2: tonight our journalist Lauren to Marzi being hit with a
Speaker 2: rubber bullet. But I mean, this is exactly what we
Speaker 2: were told would happen. And I don't mean we were
Speaker 2: told that there would be civil unrisk, but we were
Speaker 2: told that Donald Trump would clean up the streets and
Speaker 2: get rid of illegal migrants. And for some reason, the
Speaker 2: idea of enforcing the law and that's all he's doing
Speaker 2: enforcing the law now causes the left in the United
Speaker 2: States to absolutely go off. It's nut. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: not like we're talking about people who have been citizens
Speaker 2: of the United States being ripped away from their families
Speaker 2: and sent overseas that deserves riots in the street. We're
Speaker 2: talking about illegal migrants, many of them criminals, and that
Speaker 2: is how left us in the United States respond, Well.
Speaker 5: This is exposing just how bad Biden's border crisis really was,
Speaker 5: and I think Democrats trying to sweep it under the
Speaker 5: rug and say, oh, no, it's not really that bad.
Speaker 6: These are just some Laura abiding.
Speaker 5: Peaceful people who just want to come to America and
Speaker 5: make a better life. Well, inherent in being an illegal
Speaker 5: migrant easier, not Laura abiding. But anyway, Gavin Newsom actually
Speaker 5: wrote to Trump asking him to rescind the deployment of
Speaker 5: the National Guard, saying California has this under control. But
Speaker 5: then just moments later the LA Police chief said officers
Speaker 5: were overwhelmed. And then you have other Democrats like Tim
Speaker 5: Waltz who accused Ice of being the new Gestapo. You're
Speaker 5: the mayor of Boston who said, I so basically neo
Speaker 5: Nazis it is. I mean, on the one hand, they
Speaker 5: can't actually grapple with the fact that they have let
Speaker 5: their cities get this bad. Now finally someone's coming in
Speaker 5: to clean up the mess. But then they are also
Speaker 5: actively putting in danger these law enforcement officials by creating
Speaker 5: hysteria and comparing them to Nazis.
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Tim wall So, I remember his wife
Speaker 3: saying that during the Black Lives Matter protest, she opened
Speaker 3: the windows of her home so she could smell the
Speaker 3: fumes of the fires set by the rioters. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Democrats want this kind of thing, and Trump's had
Speaker 3: to send in the National Guard because the mayor of
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, she has blatantly encouraged this. She said when
Speaker 3: Trump sent ice into California to remove illegal she said,
Speaker 3: we will.
Speaker 4: Not allow this to happen.
Speaker 3: And then she made comments to the effect that her
Speaker 3: office was liaising with community groups about the protests, which
Speaker 3: was sort of a subtle message that you have permission
Speaker 3: to do whatever you want to do. Nothing is going
Speaker 3: to be done, so she's actively encouraging it. Gavin Newsom, Well,
Speaker 3: he doesn't know what to do, and we all know
Speaker 3: that's the case because we're not surprised by it because
Speaker 3: remember the fires, I mean, they had a natural disaster.
Speaker 4: He'd know what to do about that. Now they've got rioting.
Speaker 4: He doesn't know what to do about that either.
Speaker 3: And there's only one way to deal with rioting, and
Speaker 3: that is to come down hard and fast, because if
Speaker 3: you don't, it spreads. And so Trump has got to
Speaker 3: come in and deal with this. Now one little thing,
Speaker 3: it's a minor thing, but it annoys me. How Donald
Speaker 3: Trump fives off tweets where he refers to Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 3: a's Gavin new scum.
Speaker 4: I just wish Trump.
Speaker 3: He's got the law on his side, he's got a
Speaker 3: mandate that he won at the election. I just don't
Speaker 3: know why he has to resort to rubbish like that, which.
Speaker 4: Just demeans him and the office.
Speaker 3: And he seeds the high moral ground over and over
Speaker 3: when he doesn't need to.
Speaker 2: I mean he does that all the He's always he's
Speaker 2: always needs to do it. He doesn't need to, but
Speaker 2: he's always gone for the jugular. So look, I think
Speaker 2: of all the things going on at the moment, that's
Speaker 2: probably on the mark.
Speaker 3: But we saw the images on our TV, right, you
Speaker 3: don't need to go for the jake you. Gavin Newsom
Speaker 3: is condemned by the images he's allowing us to see
Speaker 3: in his city.
Speaker 4: But this is not by silly tweets.
Speaker 2: From Trump, but I mean the fact that this is
Speaker 2: just the response to law and order being enforced. I mean,
Speaker 2: would these people prefer maybe they would would prefer to
Speaker 2: live in an anarchist world. I mean they want the
Speaker 2: world without borders and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: Any resistance to Trump is justified.
Speaker 2: One thing though, and I'm sure you've seen the footage
Speaker 2: tonight is the Lauren to Marzi from the Channel nine
Speaker 2: being hit by a rubber bullet. Now, I don't know
Speaker 2: how many times you've seen this footage. I've watched it
Speaker 2: over a few times tonight. Keep your eye on the
Speaker 2: left hand side of the screen. With one of the
Speaker 2: coppers with his gun with the rubber bullet in it.
Speaker 2: He seems to turn around and fired directly at Lauren
Speaker 2: for no particular reason.
Speaker 1: Take a look.
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing I can think of is
Speaker 2: that there was a car turning into that lane, so
Speaker 2: he's sending a warning. But then wouldn't you just shout
Speaker 2: get the hell out of the way. You know, look
Speaker 2: amongst lots of stuff that's going on there at the moment,
Speaker 2: I get that this is reasonably minor. Lauren Tomazie was
Speaker 2: all right. She made it across at six o'clock. She
Speaker 2: said she was fine. But there was no call for that.
Speaker 5: Well, it's always going to be chaos in that kind
Speaker 5: of a situation. What I don't like is anti Trump
Speaker 5: people using that as evidence that Trump is going too
Speaker 5: hard on the protesters, when I actually read somewhere that
Speaker 5: the person who fired the shot was an LAPD officer
Speaker 5: not even under Trump's control. So look, we'll see it's
Speaker 5: always chaotic in these sorts of situations. But there is
Speaker 5: a feud that is dividing the internet. Two of the
Speaker 5: biggest names in women's sports, Riley Gaines and Simone Biles,
Speaker 5: have erupted into an online feud. It all began when
Speaker 5: Riley Gains, who is a former swimmer and women's rights activist,
Speaker 5: posted a photo of a Minnesota team that won a championship,
Speaker 5: but they won it with a trans player, and she said,
Speaker 5: of course your comments are turned off. Your star player
Speaker 5: is a boy. Not controversial for Riley Gaines to say.
Speaker 5: But then out of nowhere came former Olympic gymnast Simone Biles,
Speaker 5: who absolutely ripped into Riley Gains for this. She said,
Speaker 5: pick on someone your own size. We should be uplifting
Speaker 5: trans people, or making sport more inclusive, or perhaps finding
Speaker 5: a transgender category in all sports, and then she called
Speaker 5: Riley Gaines straight up a sore loser now rightfully. The
Speaker 5: internet then exploded when Simone Biles said this because she
Speaker 5: won her Olympic medals in the female category. If she
Speaker 5: had been competing against men as she wants in her
Speaker 5: inclusive utopia, she would never have won the gold medal
Speaker 5: because of men's physical strength and advantage. And then the
Speaker 5: funniest part was an old tweet of Simone Biles came
Speaker 5: back to bite her back in twenty seventeen. She tweeted,
Speaker 5: good thing guys don't compete against girls, or he'd take
Speaker 5: all the gold medals. Riley Gains responded to this and said,
Speaker 5: don't you hate it when your past self undermines your
Speaker 5: current nonsensical argument. And that's the point everyone, deep down knows.
Speaker 5: Any professional athlete would know that men have a substantial
Speaker 5: physical advantage just by virtue of their biology. She knew
Speaker 5: that somehow eight years ago she knew that, But now
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: She's fallen victim to the woke mind virus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Simone Biles got eleven Olympic medals competing in a
Speaker 3: female sport against females, earned millions of dollars, and retired
Speaker 3: and then started saying how males should be allowed to
Speaker 3: compete in female sport, which seems a little easy. Not
Speaker 3: only that, but she wants to take on Riley Gains,
Speaker 3: we did face a male in her sports. Riley Gains
Speaker 3: achieved fame or notoriety, depending on where you sit on
Speaker 3: the issue when she complained had the temerity to be
Speaker 3: upset that. Remember Leah Thomas, the biological male who was
Speaker 3: dominating university swimming and beat Riley Gains. So Riley Gaines
Speaker 3: knows what it is to be penalized in female sport
Speaker 3: having to compete against a transgendered athlete.
Speaker 4: For Simone Biles.
Speaker 3: To win all their medals, take all her money and
Speaker 3: then sit back righteously pontificating on we need to support
Speaker 3: trans people in female sports is pretty rich.
Speaker 2: Well, mus Biles could simply put her money where her
Speaker 2: mouth is and go back to competing and compete against men.
Speaker 2: If she's that confident that this isn't an issue, then
Speaker 2: that's what you go and do. It's also interesting to
Speaker 2: note that Gymnastics USAY, which is of course the governing
Speaker 2: body for gymnastics in the United States, has now pulled
Speaker 2: their transgender entrance policy from its web site, and previously
Speaker 2: they updated it about five years ago and changed the
Speaker 2: rules so that you didn't have to have gender assignment
Speaker 2: surgery or anything in order to be able to compete
Speaker 2: in gymnastics, so you can be a biological mail and
Speaker 2: have taken very few steps to change anything about yourself
Speaker 2: and compete as a woman. And amidst all of this,
Speaker 2: they've now pulled that from their website. So it makes
Speaker 2: you wonder what's going on behind the scenes in the
Speaker 2: governing body and how they're now thinking about all of this.
Speaker 2: If it turns out that Simone Bile's going off at
Speaker 2: chops about this actually causes them to review this policy,
Speaker 2: then maybe she's done a good thing.
Speaker 5: And I think that's exactly what's happened, because Riley Gaines
Speaker 5: has said many athletes who are still competing professionally for
Speaker 5: Gymnastics USA have contacted her privately behind the scenes, saying
Speaker 5: they support her stance on the issue and that women's
Speaker 5: sports should be protected for women. And this is the thing,
Speaker 5: I don't know why people are still trying to make
Speaker 5: this argument or fight this fight.
Speaker 6: This is a ninety ten issue.
Speaker 5: I honestly, it's not even partisan, it's not political, it's
Speaker 5: just basic common sense. So this would seem like a
Speaker 5: real pr headache for Simone Biles to get into for
Speaker 5: zero gain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Why she would want to do this, who knows, but
Speaker 3: I guess it makes her look righteous in the eyes
Speaker 3: of the work. Want to show you a headline that
Speaker 3: I've got, to be honest, really confused me. In the
Speaker 3: Herald Sun today. It's regarding school policies on mobile phones
Speaker 3: in Victoria. The headline reads, teachers and education experts call
Speaker 3: for wearable devices to be banned in school phone policy.
Speaker 3: In other words, Victorian government schools have banned mobile phones,
Speaker 3: and for good reason. Obviously, they are a massive distraction
Speaker 3: for young people, not to mention the bullying that goes
Speaker 3: on with regards to social media. We don't need mobile
Speaker 3: phones in schools. But writing their policy they forgot to
Speaker 3: include things like Apple watches, evidently, and so now teachers
Speaker 3: are saying we need to ban those as well. And
Speaker 3: then you've got kids with their AirPods listening to I
Speaker 3: guess they can get them to their laptops if they
Speaker 3: don't have their mobile phones, calling for those to be
Speaker 3: banned as well.
Speaker 4: This seems to me to be so obvious.
Speaker 3: I can't believe they didn't write this into the policy originally,
Speaker 3: but hopefully they will. As a parent of children, I
Speaker 3: know very well how their devices are a massive distraction,
Speaker 3: and they're honest enough to admit it to me themselves
Speaker 3: that having a phone at school was not a good
Speaker 3: thing to do.
Speaker 4: So the Victorian government should quickly deal with this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the evidence is very clear and the ban
Speaker 5: just on mobile phones has already been quite effective. There
Speaker 5: was a survey of students which found that eighty seven
Speaker 5: percent of them said they were now less distracted, eighty
Speaker 5: one percent said they were learning better. Teachers have reported
Speaker 5: improved behavior. Obviously, you reduce the harm from online bullying,
Speaker 5: the mental health impacts. So I mean, but this is
Speaker 5: just classic bureaucrats. Well, we'll write this whole policy, but
Speaker 5: forget the most obvious thing, like kids will always find
Speaker 5: a way around a band.
Speaker 2: Indeed, before we get to a break, you'll remember a
Speaker 2: little while ago, the CFMU went to administration because it
Speaker 2: came out that they had links to biker gangs. So
Speaker 2: you would think that with all of that going on,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be doing anything remotely near a biki gang
Speaker 2: at the moment, But no, it turns out that is
Speaker 2: not the case because the CFMU, it turns out, has
Speaker 2: been sponsoring the boxer son of a member of the
Speaker 2: Hell's Angels. Sir Danny Bolt is the father. He's the
Speaker 2: member of the Hell's Angels, and you can you saw
Speaker 2: there on the screen before Jesse Bolt so very clearly
Speaker 2: showing off his c CFMU sorry sponsorship. Then, of course
Speaker 2: we're not suggesting that mister Bolt has done anything wrong
Speaker 2: or that he himself is a member of the Hell's Angels,
Speaker 2: just that his father is a member of the Hell's Angels.
Speaker 2: But you would think when you're in a bit of
Speaker 2: trouble from the federal government you've gone into administration because
Speaker 2: there is clear evidence that you've been a little too
Speaker 2: those to biking gangs and that they've infiltrated your union,
Speaker 2: that you would take steps to get as far away
Speaker 2: from even the whiff of a biking gang as possible.
Speaker 2: But apparently not. You know, when you've got the sons
Speaker 2: of baking members walking around in boxing competitions, that's where
Speaker 2: union money needs to be spent.
Speaker 3: And there you go, Caleb Bond lamenting the lack of
Speaker 3: wisdom and common sense from the CFM EU court.
Speaker 4: We're going to go to a break.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
Speaker 3: including calls for Aboriginal Australians who are going to court
Speaker 3: to be given female judges so that they feel culturally safe.
Speaker 4: That's coming up in a month.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program. Let's take a look at
Speaker 3: what's making news tomorrow. We'll start with the Australian Caleb.
Speaker 3: The government's way looking at me like that.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, I'm just waiting. I'm waiting to
Speaker 2: jump into that.
Speaker 4: Look of anticipation is okay? Let's start with you that.
Speaker 2: Did you think the look was?
Speaker 4: It was just a weird look that government's green dreams
Speaker 4: are in trouble?
Speaker 1: Kalon.
Speaker 2: Can you blame me for giving a weird look when
Speaker 2: I have to look at this bloke sitting next to
Speaker 2: me every night while we're talking about the green dream.
Speaker 2: High price hydrogen bombshell. The initial cost of producing green
Speaker 2: hydrogen from Australia's two largest projects will be more than
Speaker 2: four times the price of rival energy sources, posing a
Speaker 2: fresh setback for Labour's bid to deliver a major new
Speaker 2: export industry by twenty thirty and meet net zero goal.
Speaker 2: Singapore based Intercontinental Energy, a co owner of two mega
Speaker 2: developments in western Australia, where a combined one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty six billion dollars has conceded. Initial costs for delivering
Speaker 2: green energy from the facilities was estimated at between eight
Speaker 2: and eleven dollars a kilogram. I mean, look, I don't
Speaker 2: know how many more holes can be shot in green energy.
Speaker 2: Of course, Twiggy's given up on all of his big projects.
Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of the projects in the pipeline haven't
Speaker 2: gone past the development or approval stage. And yet we've
Speaker 2: still got the federal government carrying on about how good
Speaker 2: it is, even though of course they had to bail
Speaker 2: out down in South Australia because of course the steel
Speaker 2: works down there weren't working, which were meant to be
Speaker 2: fueled by hydrogen green hydrogen. On and on it goes.
Speaker 2: Can we just admit that it's not going to happen?
Speaker 5: Sorry, you got the Albanezi government has already spent eight
Speaker 5: billion dollars trying to kickstart this industry and they're hoping
Speaker 5: to build it to a fifty billion dollar industry with
Speaker 5: sixteen thousand jobs, but there is literally no investors, so
Speaker 5: they're spending all this money on a pipe dream. Meanwhile,
Speaker 5: they're criticizing nuclear, which is a tried and tested technology
Speaker 5: that is green, that people will invest in, that is
Speaker 5: working around the world.
Speaker 6: Seriously stupid and that's my problem.
Speaker 3: They're dismantling a very reliable, very cheap energy grid for
Speaker 3: speculative projects. Also on the front page, there's some good
Speaker 3: news on energy. Dan Teen says the coalition will take
Speaker 3: their time to work out whether or not they'll walk
Speaker 3: away from net zero, so that is still being discussed
Speaker 3: by the coalition and they probably won't go with Dutton's
Speaker 3: plan to have the Commonwealth buy or pay for nuclear power,
Speaker 3: but certainly lift the ban on nuclear power. So there
Speaker 3: is some common sense, thank god, on this topic.
Speaker 2: We'll see where their land. I mean, if they want
Speaker 2: to generate energy, they could burn all that furniture that
Speaker 2: they're being installed they're not using a parliament house and
Speaker 2: get the energy out of that. Or I'll give a
Speaker 2: shout out to Spencer Housen, former radio host at the
Speaker 2: ABC and four BC in Brisbane, sent me a message
Speaker 2: a little earlier and said Parliament should put all of
Speaker 2: that furniture up on Give It, which is a platform
Speaker 2: where charities can get hold of furniture and money and
Speaker 2: whatever that they need to distribute to people and give
Speaker 2: it out to the needy. What a great idea that
Speaker 2: would be. Another story on the front of the ODS tomorrow,
Speaker 2: Indigenous Cultural Safety lawship. This one is insane exclusive from
Speaker 2: Ellie Dudley. Judges in the nation's largest criminal jurisdiction should
Speaker 2: consider allowing cases involving Aboriginal Australians to be heard in
Speaker 2: a closed court or before a female judicial officer in
Speaker 2: order to enhance cultural safety, according to provisions inserted in
Speaker 2: a new South Wales bench book. The Equality Before the
Speaker 2: Law bench Book, which was compiled by the state's judicial
Speaker 2: watchdog and acts as an overview of legal procedure for judges,
Speaker 2: instructs judicial officers to be wary of their own unconscious
Speaker 2: racial and cultural biases when presiding over childs that involve
Speaker 2: Indigenous people. But the idea that you would have, I mean,
Speaker 2: and this is what we're talking about, different levels of
Speaker 2: justice for different classes of which is no justice at
Speaker 2: all correct along racial lines. I mean, this is why
Speaker 2: people voted against the Voice. They didn't want any legal
Speaker 2: recognition that people were different. Because we all agree, or
Speaker 2: most of us agree anyway, that every man should be
Speaker 2: equal and woman equal before the law. You go down
Speaker 2: this road, we are not all equal before the law.
Speaker 3: How do you ever have reconciliation and have one country
Speaker 3: when you keep dividing everything up, even to the point
Speaker 3: where certain people get different context for their criminal trial
Speaker 3: based on race. It's insulting to judges to suggest they
Speaker 3: can't create a fair environment in which someone's case is heard.
Speaker 3: It's insulting to indigenous people to suggest they are so
Speaker 3: traumatized by the events of two hundred years ago that
Speaker 3: they can't possibly sit in a.
Speaker 4: Court of law the same as the rest of us.
Speaker 3: And it's insulting to the rest of the country to
Speaker 3: suggest that somehow a certain group gets special privileges i e.
Speaker 3: Closed court, a more sympathetic judge based on race.
Speaker 5: It's also so funny that this is in the Equality
Speaker 5: before the Law bench book, more like Inequality before the Law.
Speaker 5: But anyway, moving on to the Herald Sun now, the
Speaker 5: headline reads Vlad's crude war chest. Australia is helping bankroll
Speaker 5: Moscow's war on Ukraine, the Kremlin reaping one point eighty
Speaker 5: five billion dollars in tax on fuel shipped here despite
Speaker 5: a ban on importing oil from Vladimir Putin's regime. Russia's
Speaker 5: windfall is more than the one point five billion Australia
Speaker 5: has sent to Ukraine in aid, so on net by
Speaker 5: about three hundred and fifty million dollars, Australia is actually
Speaker 5: supporting Russia.
Speaker 6: That news to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would seem to be a pretty poor result
Speaker 3: for this country. For the Australian government to have that
Speaker 3: going on and not to make some changes to it.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it just makes a mockery of the
Speaker 2: idea of sanctions. And this has of course been the
Speaker 2: major problem in Europe is that they made themselves so
Speaker 2: reliant on Russian gas and resources and then they don't
Speaker 2: know how to wean themselves off of it. If you're
Speaker 2: giving these powers to a dictatorial state like Russia, what
Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen.
Speaker 3: It's got the front page of the Towns called bulletin
Speaker 3: awful conditions in Cleveland, leading two shorter sentences. Cleveland is
Speaker 3: a youth detention center in towns or young crims get
Speaker 3: out quicker because juvenile offenders being locked in their rooms
Speaker 3: for days on end. And that is an example of
Speaker 3: some of the unusual and harsh conditions. The paper says,
Speaker 3: being considered by judges when reducing sentences in Queensland courts
Speaker 3: awful conditions in judd in jail. I wasn't aware that
Speaker 3: jails were supposed to have pleasant conditions or nice conditions.
Speaker 4: You guys think, but I.
Speaker 3: Don't think you should get a shorter sentence because prison
Speaker 3: was more unpleasant than you thought it might be.
Speaker 2: I'm lid to believe you can get hold of sky
Speaker 2: and use in some New South Wales prison. So if
Speaker 2: you're watching from prison tonight, hollo, But I mean, this
Speaker 2: is ridiculous if you are a child who's committed enough offenses,
Speaker 2: because of course you don't want to be locking up
Speaker 2: kids willy nearly in jail. But if you've got to
Speaker 2: the point where that is consideration youth detention for you,
Speaker 2: you've gone pretty far down the line. And so now
Speaker 2: we're saying, well, it might be a hard time for you,
Speaker 2: so we'll lock you in your room. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what your parents should have been doing. And surely the
Speaker 2: reality is, of course there'll be bail conditions whatever on
Speaker 2: all of this sort of stuff that if you breach it,
Speaker 2: the coppers can come around and then you will be
Speaker 2: in the clink. But if you are the sort of
Speaker 2: kid who has disobeyed your parents or your parents have
Speaker 2: no control over you, are we seriously going to believe
Speaker 2: that mister judge saying you must stay in your bedroom,
Speaker 2: dear boy, is actually going to stop them from committing crime.
Speaker 3: And typically they're locked in their room for days on
Speaker 3: end or in their cell because there's either rioting happening
Speaker 3: in the prison and so it's for their own safety,
Speaker 3: or it's because they have been able to be trusted
Speaker 3: in general population.
Speaker 5: And most of youth crime is being driven by serious
Speaker 5: repeat offenders. So maybe if when they went to prison
Speaker 5: it was such an awful experience they never wanted to
Speaker 5: go back, we could reduce the rates of recidivism.
Speaker 4: All right, So I go on.
Speaker 2: We'll go to the Daily Telegraph tomorrow where it says
Speaker 2: more fool you as senior Breaucrat warn sports codes should
Speaker 2: not be fooled by Premier Chrisman's plans to hack More Sorry,
Speaker 2: Hack Sorry More Park golf course in half, saying there
Speaker 2: was nothing in the decision for new facilities. The warning
Speaker 2: is contained in secret internal emails released via an order
Speaker 2: of Parliament, which suggests building new sporting facilities would require
Speaker 2: mass tree clearing, which would never get enough support from
Speaker 2: the community for a government to actually go through with it.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole idea was ridiculous in the first place,
Speaker 2: that you're going to cut a public golf course in
Speaker 2: half and then turn half of it into parkland for
Speaker 2: people to walk around. It's already parkland. I mean, just
Speaker 2: leave it alone. It's a public golf course available for
Speaker 2: the benefit of the public, as opposed to private golf courses.
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know why they're persisting with it.
Speaker 4: Could not agree more.
Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
Speaker 3: Why do people as they get older make noises every
Speaker 3: time they move? We'll talk about that and more in
Speaker 3: just a moment. I've got no idea why. Caleb and
Speaker 3: Freyer asked me to introduce this particular topic, But there
Speaker 3: was a letter to a doctor's advice column at news
Speaker 3: dot com dot Au over the weekend asking why do
Speaker 3: people as they get older start groaning when they type
Speaker 3: their shoelacers and make other movements.
Speaker 4: The letter said, Dear doctor Zach, I don't know what's
Speaker 4: happening to me.
Speaker 3: But in the last twelve months, I've started to make
Speaker 3: what my partner is describing as old people noises. Why
Speaker 3: is it every time I bend over to put my
Speaker 3: shoes on, I groan? And why is it whenever I
Speaker 3: get up from the couch, I make a noise? Why
Speaker 3: is it when I get out of bed, I make
Speaker 3: a noise? It's really annoying. Well, I don't know any
Speaker 3: bad thing about this, of course, But apparently the doctor
Speaker 3: replies that you're not falling apart.
Speaker 4: It's audible adaptation.
Speaker 3: Where in your key postural muscles you die ram your
Speaker 3: pelvic floor, your abdominals, they get weaker as you get older,
Speaker 3: and so when your body is trying to stabilize caleb
Speaker 3: as you bend down to tie your shoes. So I'm
Speaker 3: told it comes out as a noise or a groan,
Speaker 3: and then it becomes a habit, and then you become
Speaker 3: one of those old people who's making noises left, right
Speaker 3: and center every time your move. There's a lot to
Speaker 3: look forward to with aging. But of course I've got
Speaker 3: decades to find out what any of this really means.
Speaker 2: And on that note, actually, no, no, we've still got
Speaker 2: a few minutes of this show lift. Haven't we remember
Speaker 2: when Chris Norman got done living next door to Alysee
Speaker 2: he got with Susie Quattro and they started stumbling in. Well,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has found his moment for that as well.
Speaker 2: You mon't call it his Biden moment. Walking up the
Speaker 2: stairs of Air Force one.
Speaker 1: And what there he goes.
Speaker 2: He nearly fell, but he rights himself. He did a
Speaker 2: slightly better job, it should be said, than Biden. Of course,
Speaker 2: you will remember this faous footage when well he every
Speaker 2: time he tried to hit. I am waiting and I'm
Speaker 2: sure it will come eventually for the anti Trump people
Speaker 2: to tune this out and say, look, it's proof for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump can't make his way. He is just as
Speaker 2: bad as Joe Biden. Even Marco Rubio fell on the stairs.
Speaker 2: Maybe all this time we were a little harsh on
Speaker 2: Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: Maybe more difficult having just done an old man's story,
Speaker 3: who hasn't heard going up Biden one is like, that's
Speaker 3: next leak?
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? He made a grown as.
Speaker 5: No steep stairs, but Biden definitely stumbled worse. Zebra was
Speaker 5: on the loose for a full week. It's shut down
Speaker 5: highways everyone was looking for this zebra, but I'm pleased
Speaker 5: to say it has been found and returned home in
Speaker 5: spectacular fashion. This is somebody's pet zebra in Tennessee being
Speaker 5: airlifted by helicopter home. I mean, I didn't know you
Speaker 5: were able to have pet zebra firstly, but look at
Speaker 5: that majestic vision.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's quite incredible.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you, as a zebra escape if you're going
Speaker 3: to get that sort of right at the end of.
Speaker 2: It, I was going to say, like, this is no
Speaker 2: encouragement for him to stop that behavior. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: just like people jump out of plane for fun. He's like,
Speaker 2: holy I will be escaping now.
Speaker 4: No board toy ride. That's it from us stick around.
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