1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: On scoring wilds Australia. This is the Reader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panety Show coming 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: up tonight. The Albaneza government stands accused of facilitating the 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: aggressive tactics of militant unions. 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 3: Are safer me you? 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: Boss? 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: John Zedka doubles down on his threats against the AFL. 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: The Great Douglas Murray joins me shortly to speak about 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: why young people in Europe are voting for right wing 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: parties and the latest on the hemas Israel Ceasepy talks. 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: John Ruddick responds to Peter Dutton's. 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Plan to ban youngsters from social media sides and which 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: Australian sports star. 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Has managed to lose millions in a property. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Dealkinsisco film will have the latest celebrity and world news 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: later in the hour, and of course left He's losing it, 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: featuring two of the unfunniest women in the country, including 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: this alleged comic Hannah Gatsby. 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 4: The idea that men are transitioning to become women so 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: they can dominate women's sports. You know, big up all 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: those amazing pers you get in women's sports. 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Joining me now, Sky News contributor Kosher Gator Kosher. Let's 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: start with the manner in which the union movement is 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: flexing its muscle. And it's not just in Victoria, but 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: across the country. As Jeff Chambers rights in the Australian labour, 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: sweeping industrial relations changes have emboldened ACTU secretary Sally McManus, 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: the organization's president Michael O'Neill, and other powerful union leaders 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: to exert their influence. Intersection between the labor federal government 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: and unions runs deep in Albanese's cabinet and Kosher he 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: notes that if ministers had to recuse themselves over conflicts 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: of interest with unions, the PM would be well running 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: the show practically by himself. 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: There won't be too many cabinet ministers there to help you. 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: True, I think most of them either worked for unions 35 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 5: or were members or were in leadership positions before. And 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 5: the heritage of the Labor Party and the Labor Party's 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 5: counterparts elsewhere is labor. The issue is this is one 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 5: of the issues of our time as well, that there's 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: a big tectonic plate shift happening around the working class 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 5: and the labor class for two reasons. One is technology 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 5: and AI and robotics and all of the stuff is 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: happening at an exponential pace is going to displace labor. 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: And the other is a self inflicted wound of immigration, 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: which both parties, including the labor have have had a 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: very heavy handed approach to that. And so people are 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: not happy, the working class everywhere. You're seeing them redressed 47 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 5: their agrievances and different venues. Membership is down, i think 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: for forty percent a few years ago, down to twelve percent, 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: and so they're figuring out ways to be relevant, I guess, 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 5: and to appease and appeal to the members of these unions, 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: and that's what all of the stems from. 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: Well, this is one of the contradictory points because the 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: union membership has plummeted. It was around forty percent now 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: it's closer to fifteen. And yet under this Albanese government, 55 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: and certainly under several state governments, they seem to be emboldened. 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: We've seen in Victoria the CMFMU boss John Secker's war 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: against the AFL. 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: Well that's becoming more and more unhinged. 59 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: Look at these posters the union has made up of 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: the AFL's head of umpire in Stephen mcbernie threatening him. 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: Until the end of the earth. 62 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: That's a direct quote, as like a spoof of a 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: wanted dead or alive poster. Mcbernie used to be the 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: head of the Australian Building and Construction Commission and the CMFM. 65 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: You want him to never work again nout threatening not 66 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: only his current employer, the AFL, but John Setka was 67 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: very clear when he spoke on radio that if the 68 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: AFL do back him, his next employer will also have 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: a similar campaign launched against it. So the question is here, 70 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: how long before just into Alan. 71 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: The Premier of Victoria steps in. 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: This is a union that donates millions to labor at 73 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: state level, at federal level. The relationship there is clear, 74 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: and yet the premier seems to be hiding. And even 75 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: federal ministers who have been critical of Setka's moves this 76 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: week haven't condemned him. They've said, oh, it's not a 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: good idea to take on the AFL if you want 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: to win hearts and minds. 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: It's a very weak response. 80 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 5: Indeed it is, and it probably goes back to who 81 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 5: their constituency is and who their electorate is, and how 82 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 5: much do they care and if they're not feeling the 83 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: pain from the electorate, they're not compelled to come out 84 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: and give a stronger response against it. Also, if they 85 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: really care about that constituency, the working class, there are 86 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 5: other policy positions around immigration, around cost of living, all 87 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: of that that they could do to improve how they're 88 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 5: resonating with that base. But instead, I think it's easier 89 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 5: to make examples of high profile people and CEO recruitment 90 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 5: and people at the top of these glamorous organizations. That's 91 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: maybe a cheap win and that's why they're keeping mom. 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: We had Tony Burke speaking on this issue earlier today 93 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: and he was treating it almost like a joke. He 94 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: was laughing and refused to answer a very straightforward question 95 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: about has John set gone too far? 96 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: I would have thought the answer was. 97 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: Yes, when you're threatening someone to the ends of the earth, 98 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: but no, he kind of squibbed his answer. And it's 99 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: not just that particular union or the AFL being strong armed. 100 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: The Transport Workers Union is warning virgin Australia against CEO 101 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: contender and front runner at this stage, Paul Jones. 102 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: They're saying his. 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: Role with Quantus and the outsourcing of the job scandal 104 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: should see him not get this role again. They are 105 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: putting very direct public pressure on Virgin Australia to act 106 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: a certain way. 107 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: I think we're in this era of guerrilla tactics really 108 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: to get consequences or outcomes that we want. And people's 109 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: policy positions or decisions they made when they're own leadership rules, 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: following them on into any future rule that they ever 111 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 5: do is kind of what this is about. And it's interesting. 112 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: I'll have far reaching consequences too, where maybe it puts 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 5: off people from taking on certain leadership rules if we 114 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: come into this era where you're going to be subjected 115 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 5: to gorilla tactics. But I think more of that is 116 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: to come is that unrest fundamentally gets only worse now. 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: An Australian woman who saved a newborn girl in China 118 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: from certain death by adopting her raising her as her 119 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: own will not see that child be made as citizen 120 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: because of an intervention by Immigration Minister Andrew Giles. Alexandra 121 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: Yagelman rescued the hours old newborn in Jisu when her 122 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: birth parents expressed a desire to decapitate her because of 123 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: brain injury sustained at birth. 124 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 3: She raised the girl. 125 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: Ever since, the girl's now healthy, vibrant young woman, and 126 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: Angi's two other adopted siblings received favorable citizenship decisions from 127 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: the AAT having near identical circumstances to her. The immigration 128 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: ministers at the time of those decisions did not challenge 129 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: the outcome in the federal court, but Andrew Giles did 130 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: intervene and appeal the matter to the federal court, and so, sadly, 131 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: because Alexandra was an Angie's mum at the exact exact 132 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: moment of her birth, Ji cannot receive citizenship by dissent again, 133 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: a bizarre, idiotic decision by Giles, which is kosher frankly 134 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: hard to comprehend. Why would he intervene here and formally 135 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: appeal the aaight's decision. 136 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: It is strange and odd. Some speculate that he kind 137 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: of stepped in it last year with that Order ninety 138 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: nine that led to people with criminal backgrounds receiving prety 139 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 5: favorable treatment for immigration here, and so maybe he's trying 140 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: to swing the pendulum in the other direction. 141 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: It's great to be tough on a young girl who's 142 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: had It's. 143 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: An odd pick, very odd pick, and then another self 144 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 5: inflicted wound and unforced error sort of that. If you 145 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: want to be tight on immigration, which we just talked 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 5: about is one of the issues of our time. People 147 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 5: want more of a hawkish position on that across party lines. 148 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: That's where you should be playing and not making an 149 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 5: example of a case like this where he's only going 150 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: to lose. He doesn't look very good in the pr 151 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: battle or otherwise, and it's making no difference to actual 152 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: immigration policy. 153 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it be tough on crims, not little girls, would 154 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: be my general advice. Now, before you go, more signs 155 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: that the Albernezy government is a run by activist for 156 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: activist guy and uses Senior reporter Caroline Markers has got 157 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: this exclusive on the federal government granting millions of taxpayer 158 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: funds for a new cervical cancer campaign to an organization 159 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: accused of raising women from its messaging. ACN has used 160 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: terms like people with a cervix to describe women, as 161 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: also used the term front hole. 162 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: I wish I was kidding, Kosher, I'm not. 163 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 5: It's a few things. So one, we know this radical 164 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 5: assault on language, really, and you're just trying to make 165 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 5: everybody a sterilized widget because it is what we're saying 166 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: that you're somebody with cervix or whole or what have you. 167 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: And then the other thing is just taxpayer money. When 168 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: it's slashing around, they probably don't even know the federal 169 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: government down to that level of at the surface, it 170 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: feels like a good cause. Okay, it's a cervical cancer 171 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 5: screening campaign. Good thing. Millions of women die for cervical 172 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 5: cancer and that was put to an end with these 173 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: types of campaigns. Beneath the surface, though, there's like another 174 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: hidden agenda now or maybe not so hidden, of radicalizing language, 175 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: and they probably don't even think down to that next 176 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 5: level of death, just keeping it at the surface, and 177 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 5: that's a function of I think cowardice actually to address 178 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 5: this language issue, and also too much tax perimaney slashing 179 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 5: around and not enough of result. 180 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: That's it. 181 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: You're talking about more than three million dollars, so it's 182 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: not a pittance, and you're right, there's a lot of 183 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: money splashing around in that sector and not much oversight, 184 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: it seems. Koshagata, thank you so much for your time 185 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: joining me now, is best selling author of groundbreaking works, 186 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: including his latest The War on the West, is one 187 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: of the finest thinkers of his generation, Douglas Murray. Let's 188 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: start with the EU elections. Voters in twenty seven countries 189 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: of the European Union went to the polls, and as 190 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: you predicted, Europe's swing to. 191 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: The right continued. 192 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: Right wing parties recorded some stunning results in a number 193 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: of countries. 194 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: And it's a. 195 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: Contrast, quite a contrast to what we're about to see 196 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: in the UK, with a hard left Labor Party almost 197 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: certain to win in a landslide. 198 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 6: That's right, Reta, it's extraordinary. Next month, in July, the 199 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 6: British public will get to go to the polls after 200 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 6: fourteen years of Conservative majority rule. The Conservatives look set 201 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 6: to have a historic defeat. There's even poles this week 202 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 6: that would put them as the third party in Parliament, 203 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 6: beneath the Liberal Democrats. This would give a thumping majority 204 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 6: for Labor Party, even bigger than the Blair landslide in 205 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 6: nineteen ninety seven. 206 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: It's an astonishing prediction. 207 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 6: And I think all the polls show that it's basically 208 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 6: immovable now. And it's the result of something that you 209 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 6: and I have talked about before eat, which is the 210 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 6: extraordinary failure of the Conservative Party under now five prime 211 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 6: ministers to do what. 212 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: The public has asked them to do. 213 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 6: I mean, for instance, David Cameron came in in twenty 214 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 6: ten promising to bring net migration down from the hundreds 215 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 6: of thousands a year to tens of thousands, and the 216 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 6: latest figures were almost a million. So the British public, 217 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 6: from disgust at the Conservative Party and its treacher in 218 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 6: failure of any attempt to really keep its mandate, is 219 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 6: going to be voted out. And in the British system 220 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 6: there's really only one way to do that, which is 221 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 6: to be voting in labor. Meantime, as you say, the 222 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 6: whole of the European continent is going to the right 223 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 6: and to parties indeed which until very recently were described 224 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 6: as far right. I noticed that the new one that 225 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 6: the media is doing is calling parties hard right, which 226 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 6: is a strange and right. And it seems that hard 227 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 6: right is what we now have to call parties that 228 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 6: we used to call far right once they actually get 229 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 6: into power or become the main party representing their country 230 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 6: in the European Parliament. 231 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: It's an astonishing turn up, it is. 232 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: And with the EU elections we saw in France, Marine 233 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: Lippenza national rally had a remarkable result. Macron's now called 234 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: a snap poll for later in the month. And it's 235 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: interesting that in France, as elsewhere in Europe, it's largely 236 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: young voters who are veering to the right again, a 237 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: significant departure from what we see in other parts of 238 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: the West. 239 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: In France, they've. 240 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Got a charismatic twenty eight year old Jordan Bardello who's 241 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: using social media really effectively to connect with young voters. 242 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: Do you see that trend. 243 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: Being replicated in countries like Australia and US and UK 244 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: where young voters tend to vote for left wing parties, 245 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: often even Labors not left wing enough for them. They're 246 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: opting for parties left of labor. 247 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean that's been the trend and the expectation. 248 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: But the European continent is bucking that trend. And I 249 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 6: think there are some obvious explanations for that. One is 250 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 6: that the technocrats who've been in charge turn out not 251 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 6: to be all that good at being technocrats. 252 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, take the case of Emmanuel Macron, an. 253 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 6: Respected figure. He came from nowhere blue right through the 254 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 6: center of French politics when he first ran now he 255 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 6: had a reputation as being an efficient technocrat. He wasn't 256 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 6: especially inspiring, but that he could sort of do the business. Particularly, 257 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 6: people believed him when he said that he could take 258 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 6: charge of the economy. He was one of the grown 259 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 6: ups in the room. 260 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know, two weeks ago. 261 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 6: Standard and Poor downgraded the French economy just ahead of 262 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: the EU election, and that is something which I think 263 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 6: has been massively overlooked by the foreign press. You know, 264 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 6: when somebody says, look, I know migrations out of control. 265 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 6: I know that we have serious security problems. I know 266 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: that people keep on blowing stuff up in our country 267 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 6: or trying to blow stuff up. After all, there was 268 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 6: an attack that was thwarted just a couple of weeks 269 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 6: ago from an islam Is cell that we're trying to 270 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 6: attack the forthcoming Paris Olympics. Okay, you know, I'm trying 271 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 6: to keep on top of that. The main thing is 272 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 6: I'm in charge of the economy and I can do 273 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 6: a good job. When that proves not to be the case, 274 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 6: I think the voters think quite understandably. Look, the thing 275 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 6: you said you could do, you couldn't do, and there's 276 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 6: all this other stuff you haven't done. We'll try someone else. 277 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 6: And I think that's what's happening actually across the continent. 278 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: But you're right, Reto, it's a really interesting reversal of 279 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 6: what was expected to be the trend. Maybe we've all 280 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 6: been led astray by this weirdo far left fringe in 281 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 6: all of our countries who sort of portray themselves as 282 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 6: the voice of the next generation. Maybe they're not, maybe 283 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 6: they're not at all, and the young French and others 284 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 6: are actually going to the right. Jordan Bardella is one example, 285 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 6: and the media are descinately trying to portray his victory 286 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 6: in exactly the terms I predicted they would. The BBC's 287 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 6: Europe editor, I don't know if he spends any time 288 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 6: in Europe, has written about the far right being on 289 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 6: the march. Interestingly enough, Rita, on Monday night of this week, 290 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 6: the far left were on the march in Paris, with 291 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 6: leading left wing politicians among their midsts, protesting and indeed 292 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: in the end rioting and having to be dispersed by 293 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 6: the Paris police. But you know what, Rita, none of 294 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 6: the media, weirdly have said the far left is on 295 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 6: the march. Why it's almost as if they believe only 296 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 6: the far right is ever able to march, whereas the 297 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 6: far left is, of course, this entirely benign force, which 298 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 6: is of course who the media really. 299 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Want to be in charge, so don't show them as 300 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: being in a bad light. 301 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: And they declined to even call them far left. 302 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: It's just left wing parties, even if they are characterized 303 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 2: that way or extreme left is never used as it 304 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: is for right wing parties. We've seen Donald Trump recently 305 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: joined TikTok. He's trying to reach those young voters. It 306 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: was a surprise move. He's had great success so far 307 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: in reaching a new audience. Let's have a look at 308 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: his latest post hereies with YouTube star logan Paul. 309 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: Is he taking note of what is. 310 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: Happening in Europe and recognizing younger voters have to be 311 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: reached via these new platforms It can be quite difficult 312 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: to get through. 313 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: To them in the mainstream media. 314 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure he is. 315 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 6: I mean, of course, Donald Trump's extraordinary success in twenty 316 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 6: sixteen was in large part the result of him using 317 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 6: Twitter so well. Of course, you know the then pretty 318 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 6: elon musk. Twitter couldn't forgive itself for being used in 319 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 6: this way and was obviously mortified, but remember how well 320 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 6: he used Twitter. All the ad money that his opponents 321 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 6: were spending on the traditional networks, he didn't need to 322 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 6: spend because everyone was writing about him and talking about 323 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 6: him on the basis of any moment's tweet. His two 324 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 6: thumbs saved millions and millions of dollars of ad campaign spending. 325 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 6: But this time it's sort of inevitable. He'll try other 326 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 6: mediums and the TikTok will be one of them, and 327 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 6: we'll see if it works. We'll see there's no reason 328 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 6: why young Americans are going to have to vote Democrat 329 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 6: any more than why a young French voters are going 330 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 6: to have to vote for the far left parties there. 331 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 6: But you know, Trump is, of course an extremely engaging performer, 332 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 6: and he's a man who grew up in the media. 333 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 6: You know, he was a television star before he was president. 334 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 6: He's very very aware and very canny about using media 335 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 6: and social media. 336 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: So it'll be very interesting. 337 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 6: I suspect that his rivals will do everything they can 338 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 6: to cut off this way of accessing directly the public, 339 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 6: but there won't be very much they can do. 340 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about the Hamas Israeli war, the US 341 00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: backed ceasefire proposal, the negotiations there are continuing. Her Mass 342 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: sent back an unworkable counteroffer. Even the US Secretary of 343 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: State Anthony Blincoln acknowledges that the war's going to go 344 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: on with that unworkable counter from her Mask. They're refusing 345 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: to agree to a plan that would include the release 346 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: of hostages in exchange for a cease fire. But it's 347 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: worth noting Douglas that the Biden administration has the likes 348 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: of National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, who has said some 349 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: of the amendments proposed by her Mass are minor and anticipated. 350 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: It's almost like he's negotiating on their behalf. So much 351 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: for not negotiating with terrorists, it seems the Biden administrations 352 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: some who are negotiating on behalf of terrorists. 353 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 6: I find this latest round of peace talks that be 354 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 6: an extraordinary set of events. Israel Is trying to get 355 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 6: the remaining hostages back performed or the IDF performs. Special 356 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 6: Forces performed an extraordinarily impressive raid this past week in 357 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 6: which they rescued for four of the poor Israelis who 358 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 6: are stolen from the Nova Party on the seventh October 359 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 6: last year, and have been tortured and more in captivity 360 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 6: all the last eight months. So the Israelis want to 361 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 6: find a way, of course, to get the hostages back 362 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: with the Americans and other interlocutors. They've got this plan, 363 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 6: and this plan would bring an end to the war. Now, 364 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: who is the party that refuses to bring an end 365 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 6: to the war. It's Hamas. And I wonder, rita, whether 366 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 6: all the morons protesting on the streets of Australia and 367 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 6: America and everywhere else in the West calling for ceasefire 368 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 6: will register for even a moment that a ceasefire actually 369 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 6: is on the table once again. And who is it 370 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 6: that has rejected it? 371 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Hamas? 372 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 6: And you know, I wonder whether any of these morons 373 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 6: will notice this. 374 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I doubt it. 375 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 6: But if the war is going to go on, everybody 376 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 6: can say now with one hundred certainty, as you could 377 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 6: for the last eight months. 378 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: The reason that there is no ceasefire is because of Hamas. 379 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, the morons as you call them, marching in 380 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: the streets in Australia. They never mention her mass. It's 381 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: always like her mass don't exist. 382 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: And you are going to. 383 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: Be involved in a debate next week where you will 384 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: argue that anti Zionism is anti Semitism. Tell me why 385 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: you think that is the case, Because there are many 386 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: on the left in particular, who argue that being anti 387 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: Israel being anti Zionist is not the same I'm as 388 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: being anti Semitic, and they point often to the fact 389 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: that there are prominent Jews who call themselves anti Zionists. 390 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to keep my power dry for Toronto 391 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 6: on Monday night. 392 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: It's a giving it away. I'm not giving anything away. 393 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a topic that's incredibly important because just 394 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 6: look at the way in which this word Zionist is 395 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 6: now thrown around. 396 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: I mean, the the. 397 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 6: The disgust with which it's thrown around, the way in 398 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: which this word that describes this noble, wonderful concept of 399 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 6: Jewish statehood is being used as a slur. And you know, 400 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 6: as I say, once again, I've seen it myself. 401 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: So recently in Australia, in Melbourne and Sydney, you had 402 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: protestas screaming about Zionists. Zionists. 403 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 6: Do they know what they're talking about? I don't think so. 404 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 6: So I do want to set the record straight on 405 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 6: some of that. I think that this is an extraordinary 406 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 6: moment where there should be a moment of clarity in 407 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 6: the West about this, and instead, I think that we're 408 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 6: seeing an explosion of bigotry. And I'm looking forward to 409 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 6: getting into the weeds in Toronto on Monday. So I 410 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 6: think it's sold out, But anyone who wants to come 411 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 6: to Roy Thompson Hall, perhaps they can bribe their way 412 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: to get a ticket. 413 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. 414 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I pity whoever is facing you in this debate. 415 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: You're not a man I would want to be all 416 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: out debate, particularly on an issue like this, because I 417 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: know you're passionate about it, and the debate is timely 418 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: because we now have people marching in America and elsewhere 419 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: in the West calling on his bulla to murder Zionus 420 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: and it's just disturbing footage. A quick look, and I 421 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: also want to get your reaction, Douglas, to what we've 422 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: seen unfold after the rescue of those four hostages, so 423 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: much criticism of Israel's tactics and the alleged collateral damage 424 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: from the rescue mission. Was there another way for Israel 425 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: to rescue its people. Should they have issued a warning. 426 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: As the BBC suggested before launching the mission. 427 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 428 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 6: First of all, on the Hasbala people just notice again, 429 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 6: like the KKK, these people don't have the confidence to 430 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 6: show their faces. Isn't it interesting that they're calling for 431 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 6: supports for genocide terrorist organization, but weirdly they cover their faces. 432 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe they're not so sure of their views, maybe 433 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 6: they're not so proud of them. Maybe they know that 434 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 6: Mummy wouldn't be so proud of them. Who knows. As 435 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 6: for as for the sort of the raid, this week, 436 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 6: much of the media reported it as the release of 437 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 6: four Israeli hostages. 438 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: They weren't brave Israelis. 439 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 6: Who are superbly trained went in and freed and rescued 440 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 6: these all three men and one woman. And the reporting 441 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 6: on this has been absolutely despicable. 442 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: You mentioned the. 443 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 6: BBC journalist who asked an Israeli official why they didn't 444 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 6: give an advance warning of the raid in Gaza. 445 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 446 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 6: That's like asking somebody why they didn't go up to 447 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 6: somebody and say I'm so sorry I can't come to 448 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 6: your surprise birthday party. 449 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole point of a record like this 450 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: is that it's a surprise. 451 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 6: And the reason is that if you'd have given advanced 452 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 6: warning to Hamas in Gaza, then the hostages would most 453 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 6: likely have been killed or spirited away to a tunnel 454 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: that Hamas has built at all of our expense in 455 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 6: the West. I mean, I'm stunned, as I've said to 456 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 6: you before, read the simple lack of empathy with the 457 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 6: situation that the Israelis are in. 458 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: They have more than one. 459 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 6: Hundred hostages still held by Hamas and islamage he had 460 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 6: and terror groups and journalists and others so called journalists 461 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 6: in Gaza. They want to get the hostages home. If 462 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 6: Hamaz wanted to end the war, it could end it 463 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 6: tomorrow by handing over the hostages. Israel found the opportunity 464 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 6: to get four of the hostages out. They were being 465 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 6: harbored in civilian homes, the civilian area, and there is 466 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 6: a war going on there. And you know the people 467 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 6: who say, you know there was collateral damage, there were. 468 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: People killed, innocent people killed. 469 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 6: I wouldn't believe the Hamaz figures, by the way, and 470 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 6: those are the ones that most of the media have 471 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 6: run with as any But even if any innocent civilians 472 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 6: were killed, obviously that's sad. But you know, the problem 473 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 6: is is that it's almost like there's a moral lesson 474 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 6: in this. Don't kidnap people and hold them in your house. 475 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good lesson that would reduce your 476 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: chances of being involved in something like this. Before you go, 477 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm interested in your take on this debate that's happening 478 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: online poll from twenty twenty three is causing a great 479 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: deal of debate among atheists, many of them embarrassed by 480 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: the results. The poll found that atheists more like to 481 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: support miners undergoing gender transition than any other religious belief, 482 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: and only one in three douglas of atheists support a 483 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: ban on transitioning miners. 484 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: How can that be? 485 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Where atheists that I am one, I was opposed to 486 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: hold science based, evidence based beliefs, and I have trouble 487 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: reconciling that with these results. 488 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 6: Well, you know, Rita, I don't think that anyone has 489 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: or any one group has a sort of. 490 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Prerogative on reason and rationalism. 491 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 6: Atheists tend to say that they want to adhere in 492 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: their moral frames to principles of reason and rationalism. I 493 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 6: would simply say that this is a demonstration of something 494 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 6: we've seen many times before, which is that the most 495 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 6: reasonable and rational people can sign up to the most 496 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 6: unreasonable and irrational cults. The Gender we Were transition cult 497 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 6: is one of the cults of our time. In previous ages, 498 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 6: some of these people would have tried to work how 499 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 6: to turn base metals into gold. 500 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: But we don't live in an age of alchemy. We 501 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: live in the. 502 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 6: Age of bizarre transition surgery, where where cac handed and 503 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 6: wicked surgeons tried to turn boys into girls and girls 504 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 6: into boys, and they have as much success as alchemists 505 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 6: did in the past. I'm very sorry for atheists who've 506 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 6: fallen for this, but I would say that it should 507 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 6: be a warning to them that actually. 508 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: Even if you make reason and rationalism. 509 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 6: Your gods, you may fail to live up to your ideals. 510 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 6: And these people in that pole reader most certainly have 511 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 6: failed to live up to those ideals. 512 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: Douglas Marry, it's always a pleasure. Thank you for time, 513 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: this evening great pleasure. 514 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: Thank you still to come. 515 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: And lefties losing it and Peter Dutton under attack by libertarians. 516 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: Over his plan to ban under sixteens from. 517 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: Social media, welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it, 518 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: and I regret to inform you that alleged comic Hannah Gansby. 519 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: Is added again with this confused. 520 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: And painfully unfunny die tribe against men who think it's 521 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: wrong for biological males to invade women's sport. They may 522 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: not want their daughter's disadvantage in sporting events. They may 523 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: not want a scholarship their loved one has worked years 524 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: to achieve, going to a male identifying as a female. 525 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: Apparently these men must shut up to make miserable Mona 526 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: Hannah happy. 527 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 4: I think it's adorable how so many men are all 528 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 4: of a sudden very concerned about women's sport. That's new, 529 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: that's real new, Like the idea that men are transitioning 530 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: to become women so they can dominate women's sports. You know, 531 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 4: pick up all those amazing perks you get in women's sports. 532 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Perks. 533 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: It may have escaped Hannah's attention, but there are actually 534 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: great perks in women's sport, from the sense of achievement 535 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: to scholarships, sponsorships, selection in sporting events, from local carnivals 536 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: to be Olympics. It's worth remembering that this lefty losing 537 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: it is a loved by the humorless leftist media. Just 538 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: look at the critics ratings of her Netflix special Nenette. 539 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: It received one hundred percent, but the audience score, as 540 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: you can see there, is a pitiful twenty six percent. 541 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: Now to another unfunny comic who doesn't have a Netflix special, 542 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: but she sure has abundant reserves of vile bitterness and 543 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: anti Israeli hate. Here is far left comic Sarah Bartello 544 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: mocking Jews who are currently under attacked by anti Semites. 545 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: Apparently it's all their own fault. Talk about victim blaming, said. 546 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 7: VH, how can I help you? Yes, you've come through 547 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 7: to the Zionis Victim Hotline. Yeah for sure. Okay, so 548 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 7: you're feeling triggered and threatened right, Well, it is on 549 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 7: the rise, that's for sure. Can I ask what was 550 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 7: the incident? Really? 551 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: A watermelon budge? These people? 552 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 7: These people have their no shame. 553 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a lot to deal with. 554 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I can definitely empathize. Did you mention October seven? 555 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 8: You did? 556 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: That's great, that's good. 557 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 7: Oh, they about the seventy six years of occupation. Interesting, 558 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 7: they're really learning about the history that we've been trying 559 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 7: so hard to cover. 560 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: Up all these years, are they. 561 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: Okay? 562 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 7: So here's what I think you should do. I think 563 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 7: you should wear as many Star of Davis as you can. Yep, 564 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 7: the same Star of David that we used to brandish 565 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 7: Palestinian prisoners, amongst other things, and just call it Andie Semitic. Yeah, yeah, 566 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 7: it works like a charm growth. 567 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: Now let's end on a positive note. Let's take a 568 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: minute and admire a Christian man who politely and methodically 569 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 2: school's a dude who questioned him about his Christian beliefs. 570 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 8: You said, I'm from Africa. You are surprised that we 571 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 8: from Africa worship at White Month. 572 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 9: Yes, And I. 573 00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 8: Said, you Muslims colonize many countries, and you impose Islam 574 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 8: and a god from Arabia on those countries that you 575 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 8: went Allah was not known in Africa, was known only 576 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 8: in Arabia because Arabic language, right, The Jews never mentioned 577 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 8: Alah in all their books. 578 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: You can. 579 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 8: The best you can get close to is Alaha, which 580 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 8: is not the same anyway. So the name Alli is 581 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 8: not known by any of the previous prophets. It's a 582 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 8: new name. And according to the Torah, we don't need 583 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 8: to follow a God that is not known by our fathers. Now, 584 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 8: for you to say we Africa's worship a white man, 585 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 8: it shows you're ignorant. Why I'm saying you're ignorant, respectfully, 586 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 8: it is because Jesus is not from Europe, He's from Israel. 587 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 8: They are not white people. 588 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: Joining me now is New South Wales Liberterranian Pete John Raddick. 589 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 5: John. 590 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: Let's start with the hard left counselor who wants landlords 591 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: to pay quadruple the amount of cancel tax that owner 592 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: occupiers would pay. 593 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: This is a plan that's been considered in Mary Back. 594 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: This counselor was on seven News doubling down on this lunacy. 595 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 10: Landlords and property investors are actually causing the housing crisis. 596 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 10: So we don't actually need any landlords. They are all 597 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 10: proper investors that don't produce anything. They don't actually create housing. 598 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 10: If you look at where if you look at where 599 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 10: the overwhelming proportion of the overwhelming where that's not lending 600 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 10: goes to, it actually actually got new. Most lending goes 601 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 10: to for property investors goes to existing homes rather than new. 602 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 10: So it's actually not true that investors produce anything. What 603 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 10: they do is they actually hold homes and then rent 604 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 10: them out at exorbitant rates. So we could actually really 605 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 10: do without, really do without, James without, and that would 606 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 10: be better. 607 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: There you go, Jona, They don't need landlords in Rebecca. 608 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: Never mind that around the third of the residents of 609 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: that council happened to be renters. 610 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 9: Well, reader, I've got a prediction, and that is that 611 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 9: our young counselor friend is never going to win the 612 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 9: Nobel Prize for Economics because look, what we need to 613 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 9: understand is that housing is just another form of investment. Okay. Now, now, 614 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 9: if people don't think they're going to get a good 615 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 9: return out of investing in housing, they'll invest in the 616 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 9: stock market or other private investments. So we need to 617 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 9: make it. We need to be very pro landlords, pro development. Now, 618 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 9: where this person is coming from is he doesn't have 619 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 9: the right solution, but there is a crisis, and he 620 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 9: has touched on the fact that there is a crisis. 621 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 9: The crisis is caused, particularly in Sydney and Melbourne, by 622 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 9: excessive planning and zoning laws and the government meddling, meddling, 623 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 9: black tape, green tape, red tape everything. There is one 624 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 9: city in the United States, which are bolished planning laws. 625 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 9: In the nineteen fifties, it's called Houston, fifth biggest city 626 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 9: in the United States, no planning laws. If you own 627 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 9: private property, you can do with it whatever you want. Now, 628 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 9: if we have that in Sydney and Melbourne, which is 629 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 9: what our party is stand for, we're going to see 630 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 9: a housing boom. We're going to see rents come down 631 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 9: and prices come down, and. 632 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: We're going to see some weird developments. Though, John, let's 633 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: not forget that. But let's go back to the economic 634 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: illiteracy of this particular counselor. He explained his understanding of 635 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 2: what would happen if property investors exited the market. 636 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 10: So, yeah, so we do have a lot of renters 637 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 10: in Merriybeck. So the purpose of this proposal is to 638 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 10: change the ownership composition of property in Merriybeck so that 639 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 10: we actually have fewer investors. And so what we're trying 640 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 10: to do here is to make it unattractive for investors 641 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 10: to invest in Merriyback so that they leave. And then 642 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 10: what will happen is those houses won't disappear, they don't 643 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 10: fall off the face of the earth. What happens is 644 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 10: that they become available for somebody else, particularly first home 645 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 10: by So what we're doing is we're reducing the number 646 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 10: of investors in Merybeck and making more homes available for 647 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 10: first home buyers to purchase. J I think is a 648 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 10: great outcome. 649 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 2: It's a great outcome because most renters join are ready 650 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: to buy property, they have deposit the bank approval that 651 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: doesn't have a genius like this to make it happen 652 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 2: for them. If this is the state of local councils 653 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: or some local counselors, it helps explain why we have 654 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: a housing crisis because we've got policies at the federal, state, 655 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: and local government level that frustrate developers, make people invest 656 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: their money elsewhere, and meanwhile rents are skyrocketing. 657 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 9: Well, look, if this genius had his way and set 658 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 9: all the housing policies in this country, what would happen 659 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 9: is there would be no new houses built, and so 660 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 9: we would have the existing stock, and the existing stock 661 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 9: would go into decay because no one would say it's 662 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 9: just not worth me owning an investment property and renovating 663 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 9: it and keeping it in good shape. So look, it's 664 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 9: very sad that we can have people like this elected 665 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 9: to council. The Australian voters neglect local council. It's very 666 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 9: powerful little form of government, particularly for practical things like this. 667 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 9: So yes, the people that voted for this guy have 668 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 9: got some explaining to do it. 669 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, I think people don't even know 670 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: who they're voting for with local council elections. They don't 671 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: know what the policies are, which party. 672 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: Affiliation they may or may not have. 673 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's how we get a lot of 674 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: the counselors because people are obliged to vote, they're obliged 675 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: to participate in this process or they're going to get fined, 676 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 2: and they don't know what they're voting for. And as 677 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: we covered last night, the number of rental properties in 678 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: Victoria has fallen over ten thousand in just three months. 679 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: Another reason why rents are going up now the coalition 680 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: is announced they're behind a ban on social media accounts 681 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: for youngsters. Peter dust And has announced that his party 682 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: will raise the minimum age for social media platforms from 683 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: thirteen to sixteen years of age within the first one 684 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 2: hundred days of. 685 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: A coalition government. John, what are your thoughts on this proposal. 686 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 9: Well, I'm deeply disturbed by it. Peter Dutton's better better 687 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 9: than Olbow, that's obvious, but I mean Peter Dutton's got 688 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 9: an authoritarian streak in him. Now what now the two 689 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 9: things that whenever, whenever the regulators want to increase the 690 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 9: power of the state and shut down the power that 691 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 9: the freedom of the Internet. They have two bogey mens, 692 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 9: they say, terrorists and pedophiles, the two worst people and 693 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 9: the two worst groups of people in the world. So 694 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 9: they say, look, we need to regulate the internet to 695 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 9: stop those two groups. Okay. Now, the reality is is 696 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 9: this at the moment, Yes, you've got to be thirteen 697 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 9: to open a Facebook account whatever it is. Okay, but 698 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 9: the kids just say yeah, they take a butt, say yeah, 699 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 9: I'm over thirteen. But what they're going to do by 700 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 9: lifting it to the age of sixteen, you're going to 701 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 9: need your digital ID, the good old digital ID brought 702 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 9: into us by the due oply liberal and labor Okay, 703 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 9: and so then you really are going to have to 704 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 9: be over the age of sixtent Now that means that 705 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 9: we're all subject to the government approving our access to 706 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 9: the internet, and it means the government's going to be 707 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 9: able to know what we're looking at on the Internet. 708 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 9: So we're going to fight for Internet freedom and unfortunately 709 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 9: Peter Dutton just does not get it. 710 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: John Ruddick, I think it's an issue we're going to 711 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 2: discuss some more in the weeks and months to come. 712 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time. This evening still 713 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: to come. 714 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan fear a Trump presidency and which Australian sporting. 715 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 3: Superstar has lost millions on a real estate deal. 716 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panny Show joining me now as 717 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 2: Entertainment and Royal reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey NBA player Ben 718 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 2: Simmons has copped a big loss on his is a 719 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 2: million dollar mansion. Multimillion dollar mansion in California. He bought 720 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: his Hidden Hills house for twenty six point eight million 721 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. 722 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 3: We're using Australian figas here. 723 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 2: A year later he listed it for thirty four point 724 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: eight million, that's US twenty three million. 725 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: There was zero interest and his finally now. 726 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 2: Completed the sale for eighteen point thirty million. 727 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: Kinz. That's a loss of more. 728 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: Than eight million dollars At a time when property prices 729 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: are going up. 730 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 3: How did he manage this. 731 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 5: Well? 732 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 11: I mean, I think we might delve into it more 733 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 11: when we talk about Goldie Hahn and Kurt Russell. But 734 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 11: I think that no one wants to live here. I mean, 735 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 11: LA's pretty lax when it comes to crime. In twenty 736 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 11: twenty two, we had three hundred and ninety seven murders. 737 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 11: That was up almost twelve percent from the previous year, 738 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 11: a fifty three percent increased pre pandemic. This year, violent 739 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 11: crime is almost three percent compared to March twenty twenty five. 740 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 11: Three robberies have increased nine point five Rita. It is 741 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 11: so bad that the stores plaster large security images of 742 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 11: their shoplifters on the storefront, so trying to humiliate and 743 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 11: stop people from shoplifting. I mean, everybody's moving to Austin 744 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 11: and Nashville, which I know I saw you visit some 745 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 11: of those places recently over the over the last year. 746 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 11: So I just think everybody is fleeing and no one 747 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 11: wants to live here anymore. 748 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 7: Yeah. 749 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: The La Times had an article four years ago about, 750 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 2: oh this the numbers fleeing California. They're all the lower 751 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: socioeconomic people. Rich people are actually moving to California, and 752 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 2: then they ran a story four years later a few 753 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 2: months ago saying, had the rich we're now fleeing California, 754 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 2: and obviously the crime rate and the high state taxes 755 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 2: would have a lot to do with that. Now now 756 00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: the Californian resident, Prince Harry is unraveling under the stress 757 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 2: of all the court cases and family dramas he's been under. 758 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 2: Sources told Heat magazine he's less able to remove himself 759 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 2: from the situation than she is. She being Megan, as 760 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: he's still clinging onto the hope of a family reconciliation 761 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: that she feels isn't going to happen. It's much more 762 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 2: painful for him because he's not been getting any proper 763 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 2: updates on Kate or his dad. In her view, it 764 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: would be a terrible idea to take another trip to 765 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: the UK right now. He needs a summer of healing 766 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 2: and non confrontation. The magazine is also saying that Harry 767 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 2: and Meghan have plans to leave America Kinsey if Trump 768 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,399 Speaker 2: is reelected, with an insider saying if Trump does win, 769 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 2: they fear he's going to cause trouble for a lot 770 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 2: of people, not just them, but they presume that'd be 771 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: high targets because he's been pretty open about his disdain 772 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: for them. If he's in charge and pulling the strings 773 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: with immigration, it's safe to say he'll do his best 774 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: to make life as hard as possible for both of them. 775 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 2: They fear it would be a disaster for democracy, and 776 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 2: on a personal level, they have to leave America. 777 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 3: That sounds like a campaign ad for Trump. 778 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: Kinsey, I don't know if that's going to scare too 779 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 2: many people off voting for Donald Trump. 780 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, Miiley Cyrus told us the same thing, 781 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 11: and she's living pretty comfortably still in the United States. 782 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 11: My favorite line this came from Heat magazine was the 783 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 11: Duke of Sussex is being urged by his wife to 784 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 11: take a break, take a break from what his bond 785 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 11: want do. Yeah, exactly what does he do? And they 786 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 11: said it's hard. It's hard for her to see him 787 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 11: clinging to the walls or climbing the walls. 788 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 3: The way he's been doing. 789 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 11: And she wants them to take a break from all 790 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 11: the toxicity, which is wild because somebody might want to 791 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 11: tell her that she is the toxicity. 792 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 793 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 4: Oh? 794 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I laughed when I read that line about he. 795 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 3: Needs to take a break. 796 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: These two are the most underemployed millionaires in Hollywood day. 797 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: You really do wonder what they do to fill their days, 798 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: because other than venting in the media every now and 799 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: then about how horrible everyone is to them. What's happening 800 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 2: with her lifestyle website that was about to take off 801 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: and then we've stopped hearing about it? 802 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 11: Or her podcast Lemonada announcing her podcast that she was 803 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 11: going to relaunch a podcast. We've got American Revie Orchard. 804 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 11: Nothing tangible on the website. Yet what happened to meet 805 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 11: me at the Lake is that in production with Netflix. 806 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 11: Is Megan still doing her cooking show? No recent shooting 807 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 11: for Harry's Polo show. It all seems very up in 808 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 11: the air. So maybe they are literally taking a break, reader, 809 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 11: because where are they? 810 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 6: What are they doing. 811 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 3: Now? 812 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 2: Former Neighbors star Holly Villance has been very outspoken in 813 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: her support for Nigel Farage and now she's an Her 814 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: billionaire husband have held a fundraiser for Donald Trump at 815 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: the Chelsea Mansion in London. 816 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: They were charging up to forty. 817 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 2: Thousand dollars per person to attend an evening with that 818 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 2: Donald Trump Junior you can see there and Kinsey we 819 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 2: hear Holly herself gave a speech along with Donald Junior. 820 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: She is getting rather political, isn't she? 821 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 11: Oh, she absolutely is. She said she would campaign for 822 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 11: Farage if he needed her help. And it was actually 823 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 11: Farage that took her tomorrow Lago where they spent over 824 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 11: an hour with President Trump, and she said she couldn't 825 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 11: believe how interested he was in them and their lives 826 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 11: and how many questions he asked. She said he was 827 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 11: just so curious and not as tough as she expected 828 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 11: him to be, so she was pleasantly surprised by him. 829 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 11: But I think that she really does believe in the 830 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 11: Trump campaign along with the Farage campaign, and she said 831 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 11: she endorses Trump because she believes if America is strong, 832 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 11: the UK will be strong, and the world will be strong. 833 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 2: Discofild, thank you so much for your time this evening, 834 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 2: and that's it from me. 835 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 3: Tonight. 836 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 2: Up next is Newsnight, Don't forget Left is Losing It 837 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: tomorrow at. 838 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 3: Nine point thirty pm. Goodnight,