WEBVTT - Credlin | 17 September 0:00:02.350 --> 0:00:08.059 Peter Credlin, live from News 24. 0:00:08.060 --> 0:00:10.480 Good evening. Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up 0:00:10.500 --> 0:00:13.660 tonight on Credlin. Well, finally, a number from Labor on 0:00:13.700 --> 0:00:19.340 net overseas migration, 292,000, far higher than any of the 0:00:19.410 --> 0:00:21.790 other political parties that have got office on the table. 0:00:22.250 --> 0:00:26.430 Nothing much, though, today in terms of new overall policy. 0:00:26.470 --> 0:00:29.230 Despite the hype, I'll get you across the details in 0:00:29.290 --> 0:00:32.990 just a moment. Pauline Hanson and One Nation targeted again 0:00:33.090 --> 0:00:37.950 by students at rallies today. The ignorance is breathtaking. Perhaps 0:00:38.030 --> 0:00:40.630 another day in school would have been a better use 0:00:40.810 --> 0:00:45.140 of their time. A shrine, not a soapbox. That's the 0:00:45.220 --> 0:00:49.220 argument from critics who've raised alarm over plans to include 0:00:49.340 --> 0:00:54.950 Indigenous frontier conflicts and contested history at the Australian War Memorial. 0:00:55.310 --> 0:00:58.110 I'll speak to someone who's campaigning hard to stop this 0:00:58.650 --> 0:01:02.900 in a moment. And that hard-fought win today for veterans, 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.199 after weeks of backlash, the Albanese government forced to axe 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.240 its allied health cap. And the toll, well, it was 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.339 there for all to see. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.060 I know what it's like to carry a coffin. 0:01:15.500 --> 0:01:17.660 I know what it's like when your friends are no 0:01:17.700 --> 0:01:18.120 longer there. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:28.750 So, this is personal for me, because it's my family, 0:01:28.890 --> 0:01:29.480 it's my people. 0:01:32.300 --> 0:01:33.940 What a beautiful man. We'll get to that in a moment. 0:01:34.660 --> 0:01:37.589 But first today, Tony Burke's long-awaited speech to the National 0:01:37.650 --> 0:01:42.690 Press Club announcing Labor's new migration policy. Only not much 0:01:42.770 --> 0:01:46.089 was actually new. In fact, in relation to the overall 0:01:46.150 --> 0:01:50.010 numbers to the NOM or the Net Overseas Migration, it's 0:01:50.050 --> 0:01:52.930 pretty much what the Treasurer announced four months ago in 0:01:53.470 --> 0:01:55.900 the Budget. So why do we have to wait so 0:01:55.960 --> 0:02:00.240 long for this on-again, off-again speech, which gave us nothing? Well, 0:02:00.260 --> 0:02:04.870 that's bewildering. particularly given the strength of community sentiment that's 0:02:04.910 --> 0:02:09.049 now demanding wholesale reform of our immigration system, not just 0:02:09.150 --> 0:02:14.010 tweaks around the edges. Now, to that point, recent modelling 0:02:14.050 --> 0:02:16.540 from the Institute of Public Affairs confirms Australians with the 0:02:16.580 --> 0:02:21.940 whole system scrapped and started again. Almost 80% want a 0:02:22.100 --> 0:02:27.220 norm of $ 100, 000 a year or lower. Remember what Burke 0:02:27.260 --> 0:02:30.930 announced today, what Jim Chalmers announced back in May? Well, 0:02:30.950 --> 0:02:35.850 that's almost three times those numbers. 60% of Australians says 0:02:35.910 --> 0:02:38.889 the IPA. Well, they think there are far too many 0:02:39.010 --> 0:02:44.250 migrants in the country. Half of those surveyed, 34%, well, 0:02:44.270 --> 0:02:46.589 they say that they no longer recognise the country they 0:02:46.630 --> 0:02:50.050 grew up in. Around the edges today, there were changes 0:02:50.110 --> 0:02:53.170 to student visas and the ending of ability of students 0:02:53.210 --> 0:02:55.410 to come here to study with their family in tow. 0:02:56.110 --> 0:03:00.120 That's long overdue, but it should be supported. The Albanese 0:03:00.139 --> 0:03:03.660 government also announced plans to end the practice of people 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.860 coming here under one visa type and then when in Australia, 0:03:08.260 --> 0:03:12.299 sliding across to another and in effect, visa hopping. So 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.520 doing this for years and years to stay here a 0:03:15.660 --> 0:03:20.609 whole lot longer than originally intended. Again, I've been arguing 0:03:20.690 --> 0:03:23.570 that this should happen for months, so it's good policy. 0:03:24.490 --> 0:03:27.090 Although with Labor, as always, the devil's in the details. 0:03:27.110 --> 0:03:29.989 So I'll wait to carefully read through the actual papers 0:03:30.490 --> 0:03:33.950 when they turn up. But other things announced today by Burke, well, 0:03:33.970 --> 0:03:39.190 they were short-sighted and not well thought through. I'm referring 0:03:39.270 --> 0:03:42.690 here to new restrictions for those on working holidaymaker visas. 0:03:43.490 --> 0:03:48.110 Many of you will know backpackers work hard in often 0:03:48.190 --> 0:03:51.910 regional communities to both extend the term of their visas 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.660 and to earn enough money to travel. They do the 0:03:55.700 --> 0:03:58.920 jobs like fruit picking and seasonal farm labour that a 0:03:58.940 --> 0:04:02.380 lot of Australians are now too lazy to do themselves. Now, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.020 not only is this work what we need to power 0:04:05.100 --> 0:04:08.480 our ag sector, but most of the time, every dollar 0:04:08.500 --> 0:04:11.860 they earn in Australia is spent in Australia before they 0:04:11.900 --> 0:04:16.060 return home. This policy will make little difference to Labor's 0:04:16.140 --> 0:04:20.940 overall numbers. but it'll hurt farmers and regional communities. And 0:04:20.980 --> 0:04:24.260 the rest of us, because if farmers can't be assured 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.100 they can get their crop to market, they won't plant it, well, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.000 we'll be hit too. We'll end up importing food to 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:35.370 Australia because we can't grow it ourselves. So this was 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.530 a dumb move announced today, but what would you expect? 0:04:39.029 --> 0:04:42.770 Burke lives in inner city Sydney and clearly he's got 0:04:42.870 --> 0:04:45.409 no interest in what happens over the Great Dividing Range. 0:04:46.330 --> 0:04:49.230 What's also becoming a problem, a real problem now for Labor, 0:04:49.550 --> 0:04:53.310 and it won't just hit immigration, but it'll hurt them 0:04:53.390 --> 0:04:56.810 right across the board, is the reality that no one's 0:04:56.860 --> 0:05:00.620 got faith in what this government says, let alone their 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.679 capacity to deliver on commitments. Now, even if Burke had 0:05:04.740 --> 0:05:06.940 gone for broke today and addressed the concerns that the 0:05:06.980 --> 0:05:10.060 majority of voters say they have with our record high 0:05:10.100 --> 0:05:14.580 migration rate, there would remain serious reservations on whether Labor 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:19.020 could or would Deliver it anyway. Because one of the 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.880 collateral hits from the government's repeated lies is that people 0:05:22.900 --> 0:05:26.279 don't trust them anymore. And when voters don't trust you, 0:05:26.300 --> 0:05:28.980 when they don't believe you, well, it's hard to get 0:05:29.020 --> 0:05:33.270 them to engage on broader policy detail. Because from the get-go, 0:05:33.310 --> 0:05:36.330 they assume it's all made up. It's a lie. Or 0:05:36.370 --> 0:05:40.430 that you'll backflip and never do it anyway. I mean, 0:05:40.450 --> 0:05:43.250 how could you blame voters for that view? Energy prices, 0:05:43.350 --> 0:05:47.289 property tax changes, caps on veterans, widows' taxes, lies about 0:05:47.310 --> 0:05:50.159 whether the PM fell off the stage or not, concerns 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.700 now about the probity around this half a billion dollar 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.220 grant scheme where 73% of the money is handed over 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.450 in labour or key marginal seats. All of this adds 0:06:01.550 --> 0:06:04.810 up in the minds of the electorate. Listening to Burke's 0:06:04.890 --> 0:06:08.860 speech this afternoon... He failed to tackle the genuine problems 0:06:08.900 --> 0:06:13.190 we have where would-be migrants are determining our immigration policy, 0:06:13.690 --> 0:06:18.190 not the governments that we elect. For example, where was 0:06:18.230 --> 0:06:21.349 the detail to send the foreign criminals back to where 0:06:21.370 --> 0:06:24.950 they came from? Where was the detail to keep Islamist 0:06:25.050 --> 0:06:30.060 extremists out? Where was the acknowledgement that Australians feel that 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.360 under this government we're losing our culture? Now, on that 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.049 very point, Burke had this to say. 0:06:37.890 --> 0:06:40.870 Some countries describe themselves as a melting pot. It's not 0:06:40.910 --> 0:06:44.090 a term I ever use of Australia. In a melting pot, 0:06:44.529 --> 0:06:47.150 anything you throw into it loses its shape and dissolves. 0:06:48.220 --> 0:06:51.060 I view our nation very much through the shape of 0:06:51.100 --> 0:06:54.680 an orchestra. It's a pretty bad orchestra when everything's the 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.580 same instrument. What you need to make sure of is 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.420 that all the different instruments of the orchestra can work 0:07:00.460 --> 0:07:01.750 together in building harmony. 0:07:03.850 --> 0:07:06.380 What's missing here is that a bit of recognition from 0:07:06.430 --> 0:07:10.710 Labor that an orchestra only plays together when everyone's got 0:07:10.750 --> 0:07:14.230 the same sheet music. And under Labor, we don't have 0:07:14.330 --> 0:07:17.710 the same sheet music. The two focused on dividing us 0:07:17.750 --> 0:07:23.430 by race, gender, religion, aspiration, and allowing those differences to 0:07:23.470 --> 0:07:26.150 become the new norm, rather than making it clear, if 0:07:26.170 --> 0:07:29.890 you come to Australia, you join us or you leave. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.580 Missing also in that analogy is recognition that an orchestra 0:07:33.660 --> 0:07:37.010 only plays music we're listening to when there's a conductor 0:07:37.050 --> 0:07:40.490 who knows what they're doing. We don't have a leader 0:07:40.530 --> 0:07:43.250 in the Prime Minister who can conduct a school band, 0:07:43.670 --> 0:07:47.510 let alone an orchestra. When was the last time you 0:07:47.550 --> 0:07:52.220 heard him celebrate the contribution of pioneering Australians, the men 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.240 and women who built this country? We hear a lot 0:07:55.260 --> 0:07:58.960 about Aboriginal Australians, don't we? But almost nothing about those 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.630 who opened up the country in the 1700s, 1800s, early 1900s. 0:08:04.020 --> 0:08:09.110 The farmers, those who built our country towns, those who 0:08:09.170 --> 0:08:13.370 created our institutions. When was the last time you heard 0:08:13.410 --> 0:08:16.450 him pay more than lip service to veterans? If Labor 0:08:16.470 --> 0:08:18.970 really cared about veterans, it'd never have been a cap 0:08:19.510 --> 0:08:23.520 imposed on their health services in the first place. When 0:08:23.540 --> 0:08:26.960 did you last see Albanese? Or even a government building 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:31.380 not flanked by three flags? This isn't a Prime Minister 0:08:31.420 --> 0:08:34.100 who loves this country. This is a Prime Minister who 0:08:34.179 --> 0:08:39.660 loves power. That's a very, very different thing. Labor's migration 0:08:39.710 --> 0:08:43.370 announcement today is a smoke and mirrors job that they've 0:08:43.410 --> 0:08:47.069 been forced into by the polls. This is not a 0:08:47.210 --> 0:08:51.490 serious attempt to fix a broken system. I just hope 0:08:51.570 --> 0:08:59.330 voters are smart enough Not to be fooled. Right, that's 0:08:59.370 --> 0:09:02.010 a wrap at the end of a parliamentary sitting fortnight. 0:09:02.510 --> 0:09:05.489 So we'll get the headlines today from our reporter, Trudy McIntosh. 0:09:06.450 --> 0:09:09.710 After months of growing pressure, the government has finally scrapped 0:09:09.730 --> 0:09:12.130 the controversial allied health cap for veterans. 0:09:12.610 --> 0:09:15.709 Have a beer, have too many beers, do whatever, but 0:09:15.750 --> 0:09:17.910 the bloody cap has been scrapped. 0:09:18.130 --> 0:09:19.640 I know what it's like to carry a coffin. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.240 I know what it's like when your friends are no 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:22.620 longer there. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:27.620 This is personal for me. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.900 Veterans Affairs Minister Matt Keogh confirmed after consultations to take 0:09:31.950 --> 0:09:32.970 the cap off the table. 0:09:33.710 --> 0:09:36.929 And we committed to listen and we did and we 0:09:36.990 --> 0:09:39.690 heard and we have responded. 0:09:40.190 --> 0:09:43.090 The cap was friendless outside Labor ranks and it was 0:09:43.170 --> 0:09:45.699 not one of the recommendations from the Royal Commission into 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:46.740 veteran suicide. 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.160 This is a real character test for Prime Minister Anthony 0:09:50.220 --> 0:09:54.960 Albanese because today he should also sack the minister. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.449 Others on the crossbench argue it's not Minister Keogh's fault. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.620 So for the veterans out there please don't take out 0:10:01.660 --> 0:10:02.240 on this Keogh. 0:10:02.500 --> 0:10:04.500 If veterans are angry about this and they should be, 0:10:05.140 --> 0:10:07.220 direct the anger at the people who made the decision. 0:10:07.300 --> 0:10:09.930 You know this is a Treasurer, Prime Minister decision. 0:10:10.429 --> 0:10:13.430 And an unlikely trio has joined forces to demand more 0:10:13.470 --> 0:10:14.829 staff from the Prime Minister. 0:10:15.150 --> 0:10:16.390 We're not asking for anything more. 0:10:17.630 --> 0:10:20.110 Than what has been given to other members of parliament. 0:10:20.330 --> 0:10:24.189 Australians want to see politicians act in a mature way 0:10:24.309 --> 0:10:25.600 to put their differences aside. 0:10:25.820 --> 0:10:29.640 The former Labor-turned-Independent Senator Fatima Payman left her sharpest attack 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:30.300 to the PM. 0:10:30.540 --> 0:10:34.260 He brags about his female majority caucus and the government's 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.910 track record on women's rights. But are those rights only 0:10:38.970 --> 0:10:41.010 granted to women who agree with him? 0:10:41.370 --> 0:10:42.349 Trudy McIntosh, News 24, Canberra. 0:10:46.090 --> 0:10:47.850 All right, let's get into a whole lot of issues. 0:10:47.870 --> 0:10:50.250 We'll get into that policy too. Let's bring in my panel, 0:10:50.290 --> 0:10:52.980 National Affairs Editor at the Daily Telegraph, News 24 host, 0:10:53.030 --> 0:10:56.160 of course, James Morrow, and the Deputy Executive Director at 0:10:56.179 --> 0:10:59.480 the IPA, Dan Wild. Plenty to pick through, Dan. I 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.380 know you're a bit of a boffin on migration, and 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.620 I went to your research to make it clear that 0:11:05.660 --> 0:11:08.849 Australians want wholesale change, but I don't want this tweaking 0:11:08.910 --> 0:11:14.190 around the edges. It's interesting, you know, Labor's spruiking 225,000 0:11:14.929 --> 0:11:17.489 For people at home, that's double where we were in 0:11:17.530 --> 0:11:23.730 terms of the Howard government long-term average of about 110,000. 0:11:23.730 --> 0:11:28.420 292,000 is the current set of numbers. I doubt we'll 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.960 get off that. And they've got the tweaking in terms of, say, 0:11:32.980 --> 0:11:36.800 the Working Holidaymaker program and others. They're places that they 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.660 shouldn't go. There's a whole lot of areas, Dan, that 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.740 they left off the table today. What did you make 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:44.320 of the policy? 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.250 Well, it's a shocker. This speech was a big middle 0:11:49.309 --> 0:11:52.910 finger to Australians who have been demanding cuts to the intake. 0:11:52.950 --> 0:11:55.530 And as you correctly identified, there are no cuts here 0:11:56.030 --> 0:11:59.390 beyond what was established in the government's budget. So this 0:11:59.450 --> 0:12:02.000 government is not going to be reducing the net overseas 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.020 migration number, which is the thing that they must do. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.900 You correctly said that this was nothing more than smoke 0:12:07.940 --> 0:12:11.060 and mirrors tinkering around the edges. And I think what 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.700 is clear is that Tony Burke is in denial. He 0:12:14.780 --> 0:12:18.360 explicitly said that his government is not running a mass 0:12:18.420 --> 0:12:23.220 migration program. This is complete bumpkin. What do you call 0:12:23.610 --> 0:12:28.470 having the single highest share of foreign-born people in your country? 0:12:29.190 --> 0:12:31.809 That is mass migration. What do you call having one 0:12:31.850 --> 0:12:34.809 of the fastest growing migrant populations in the developed world? 0:12:35.290 --> 0:12:38.660 That is mass migration. What do you call having year 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.320 after year of net overseas migration that is double, triple 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.490 or quadruple the long run average. That is mass migration. 0:12:45.809 --> 0:12:48.609 That is what Australians are saying that we must stop. 0:12:49.610 --> 0:12:52.110 We look at it from an economic perspective where Tony 0:12:52.130 --> 0:12:54.429 Burke said if you cut immigration, you're going to trash 0:12:54.470 --> 0:12:57.420 the economy. This is just a trope. that is run 0:12:57.460 --> 0:13:01.180 by the big business lobby groups and their mouthpieces and 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.380 the university sector because they want more money. They want 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.750 to take the lazy approach of more migrants rather than 0:13:06.830 --> 0:13:09.330 actually doing the hard yards of fixing up their own 0:13:09.390 --> 0:13:12.270 businesses and industries. So there was nothing in this speech 0:13:12.330 --> 0:13:14.849 at all for Australians who were demanding cuts and to 0:13:14.910 --> 0:13:17.449 fix our economy and our society. But it was just 0:13:17.490 --> 0:13:20.170 more insider political games. So you're not going to see 0:13:20.210 --> 0:13:21.910 anything more from this government on that. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.720 You know, you're so true to point out the business 0:13:26.300 --> 0:13:28.640 self-interest here because if you look at the countries ahead 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.460 of us in the OECD and you look at their 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.620 migration rates, a hell of a lot lower than Australia. 0:13:35.660 --> 0:13:38.959 So it doesn't just deliver the productivity or the business 0:13:39.020 --> 0:13:42.940 outcomes that they claim they do. It masks heavy spending 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.110 in the budget. It gives a false growth inflator to 0:13:46.140 --> 0:13:51.069 the underlying federal budget numbers. And, James, I thought of 0:13:51.110 --> 0:13:53.630 you when... He had a real go at the whole 0:13:53.750 --> 0:13:58.870 melting pot analogy and, of course, that's the American analogy. 0:13:59.270 --> 0:14:01.189 And say what you like about the United States and 0:14:01.230 --> 0:14:07.230 they are a big multi-ethnic, multi-racial country, but they are 0:14:07.290 --> 0:14:11.310 not a multicultural country. The United States knows who they are, 0:14:11.770 --> 0:14:15.050 they know their flag, they know their anthem and they 0:14:15.100 --> 0:14:18.500 are patriotic broadly in a way that we are not. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:19.260 Yeah. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.460 And, you know, that's a really interesting thing, Peter. I 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:25.340 had the exact same reaction to that speech. And I thought, really, 0:14:25.380 --> 0:14:29.290 just from word one, he was gaslighting everybody about the 0:14:29.330 --> 0:14:33.430 nature of Australian immigration, Australian culture and his plans to 0:14:33.470 --> 0:14:37.010 fix it. But what you say about American patriotism is 0:14:37.210 --> 0:14:41.340 really worthwhile. America has a very thick, is I think 0:14:41.380 --> 0:14:43.990 the word you'd use for it, a thick identity, sense 0:14:44.010 --> 0:14:48.290 of itself, who Americans are, what America is, what the 0:14:48.310 --> 0:14:51.420 American dream is, what all of these things are about. 0:14:51.580 --> 0:14:54.340 And I think under labor, we have really seen an 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.750 attempt to consciously or unconsciously, really make the Australian identity 0:14:58.830 --> 0:15:01.470 much thinner. So, you know, you only hear just about 0:15:01.510 --> 0:15:04.370 a few sort of very top level things. Oh, well, 0:15:04.390 --> 0:15:06.430 you know, rule of law, you know, this, that, the 0:15:06.450 --> 0:15:09.750 other thing, a fair go. Just a few very high level, 0:15:09.790 --> 0:15:14.900 broad concepts, but then no talk about Australian achievements, about, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.520 you know, what Australia has done, what modern Australia has 0:15:17.580 --> 0:15:21.880 done to create this incredibly successful, prosperous democracy. And a 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.840 final point on America, too. America, some experts think, is 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.240 actually now at a point of negative migration, and yet 0:15:29.500 --> 0:15:32.770 their economy is booming. This idea that you need migrants 0:15:33.070 --> 0:15:36.290 to keep your economy turning over, you know, it's only 0:15:36.390 --> 0:15:39.090 true if you've hollowed out all of your industry and 0:15:39.150 --> 0:15:40.670 your ability to do anything else. 0:15:42.500 --> 0:15:44.989 And, of course, if you don't have an identity, if 0:15:45.250 --> 0:15:48.810 you lose your history, if you fall victim to revisionism 0:15:49.090 --> 0:15:52.750 about your history, you end up with students on the street, 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.860 like we saw again today in Melbourne and Sydney, and 0:15:56.140 --> 0:15:59.620 ignorance on display. Scenes like this. Have a look. 0:16:04.700 --> 0:16:07.000 You can't just look at it in terms of Victoria. 0:16:07.020 --> 0:16:11.160 Like, they, yeah, One Secret Harbour, Fowler, they've been building 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.640 a vitriolic, hard, far-right, racist base. 0:16:15.830 --> 0:16:18.040 I hope you know damn well that this protest isn't 0:16:18.070 --> 0:16:19.710 just against Pauline Hanson and One Nation. 0:16:20.310 --> 0:16:21.710 It's against the entire. 0:16:21.350 --> 0:16:22.910 F * * * ing political establishment. 0:16:23.030 --> 0:16:25.370 Pauline Hanson's politics are actually so toxic. 0:16:25.510 --> 0:16:27.430 Like, she's for racism and bigotry. 0:16:27.450 --> 0:16:30.610 Well, Dan, what do you think? 0:16:33.250 --> 0:16:35.490 I think it's a shame that so many young people 0:16:35.510 --> 0:16:37.470 have been brainwashed. I don't have a problem with people 0:16:37.530 --> 0:16:39.650 getting out there and protesting and saying what they want. 0:16:39.690 --> 0:16:41.210 That's a part of the parcel of living in a 0:16:41.230 --> 0:16:43.360 great country like ours. But, you know, a lot of 0:16:43.380 --> 0:16:46.600 the things they say are just factually untrue. I reckon 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.120 if any of those individuals there who were saying that 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.680 Pauline Hanson is racist and that she's doing all these 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.280 other things, I mean, could they name it? What precisely 0:16:56.450 --> 0:16:58.070 is it? It may be that they disagree with her, 0:16:58.130 --> 0:17:00.690 they disagree with her migration. Fine, you can disagree with it, 0:17:00.750 --> 0:17:03.870 but Again, it gets back to our education system, the 0:17:03.890 --> 0:17:06.449 fact that the national curriculum is completely broken. You know, 0:17:06.470 --> 0:17:09.410 and I don't blame the teachers. It's a system that 0:17:09.510 --> 0:17:11.669 is set up to fail, you know, because we have 0:17:11.710 --> 0:17:14.430 these cross-curriculum priorities that, you know, you know about, which 0:17:14.490 --> 0:17:17.330 is you have climate change inserted into everything. You have 0:17:17.750 --> 0:17:20.170 all this other nonsense that's put into every single subject. 0:17:20.230 --> 0:17:23.310 So unfortunately, children are just not being taught the truth 0:17:23.770 --> 0:17:25.890 about Australia or about our history. And so they go 0:17:25.930 --> 0:17:27.960 on the streets, they say all of this stuff. I 0:17:27.980 --> 0:17:29.620 don't have a problem with the kids. I just feel 0:17:29.660 --> 0:17:31.219 sorry for them, I've got to be honest, because they 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:32.679 are victims of a broken system. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.980 Yeah, well, I want parents to take a bit of 0:17:36.020 --> 0:17:39.240 responsibility too. If you saw your kids on TV sprouting nonsense, 0:17:39.700 --> 0:17:41.240 you know, coat hanger them home and put them in 0:17:41.260 --> 0:17:43.760 front of a book or something and educate them a 0:17:43.780 --> 0:17:45.420 bit before you send them back to school because clearly 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.340 that's not happening at school. Just quickly, if I can, James, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.560 a really big win today for veterans. Why do they 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.000 have to fight for 18 weeks? The government sort of 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.740 puts it down to consultation. Well, they were locking in 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.530 this cap every single day in the parliament, defending it 0:18:02.850 --> 0:18:06.180 to the death. And now they're forced to roll over. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:07.440 Of course, they've done it on the day of the 0:18:07.460 --> 0:18:10.280 big migration announcement, hoping it'll be washed away in the 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.830 media tomorrow. I tell you what, the veterans will not forget. 0:18:13.590 --> 0:18:14.149 This, though. 0:18:14.910 --> 0:18:17.430 No, they will not. And I don't think Australians will 0:18:17.450 --> 0:18:19.949 forget this. I mean, yeah, this is only the latest 0:18:19.990 --> 0:18:23.210 in what's probably been about a half a dozen budget backflips, 0:18:23.270 --> 0:18:25.580 but this was one of the most defensive things in 0:18:25.619 --> 0:18:28.879 that budget. I mean, this idea... treating veterans as if 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.119 they are sort of almost de facto trying to game 0:18:32.180 --> 0:18:34.899 a system. It's just appalling. And I think there's a 0:18:34.940 --> 0:18:38.560 real national security implication in this, too, because if you're 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.879 telling people you want them to sign up to serve 0:18:42.140 --> 0:18:45.720 the country, put their bodies and lives on the line, 0:18:46.380 --> 0:18:48.520 you can't then say, when you come out the other side, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.320 we're not going to be there for you. I just 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.460 think it's a disgrace. I think at the next reshuffle, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.140 I reckon Matt Keogh might be moving offices. 0:18:57.950 --> 0:19:02.240 Yeah, he'll be survived and moved on though because the 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.260 Prime Minister doesn't get to choose his ministers. The factions do. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.730 That's why Keogh's still there. They'll just move him to 0:19:07.750 --> 0:19:10.609 another portfolio like they did with Claire O'Neill. Just quickly, 0:19:10.630 --> 0:19:12.110 if I can, Dan, I know you used to live 0:19:12.130 --> 0:19:12.710 in Victoria. 0:19:12.750 --> 0:19:12.980 You're a. 0:19:13.210 --> 0:19:16.880 You're a lucky escapee. The Royal Commission kicks off next week, 0:19:17.020 --> 0:19:19.179 the one that Labor was forced into calling when they 0:19:19.220 --> 0:19:23.830 changed the leader. Really what's interesting here, CFMEU is the 0:19:24.010 --> 0:19:26.830 only union named in the terms of reference, but there's 0:19:26.869 --> 0:19:30.950 a whole lot of other unions that the plumbers, ETU, Workers' Union, 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.800 they are all on the job for the big build. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.860 So they are now not involved in this Royal Commission. 0:19:38.300 --> 0:19:40.480 And do you really think this side of an election 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.330 will see Dan Andrews or Jacinta Allen in the dock? 0:19:43.350 --> 0:19:48.330 Well, you've got Buckley's chance of that happening, but you're 0:19:48.350 --> 0:19:50.250 right to point it out because that is really the 0:19:50.310 --> 0:19:52.490 test of whether this is fair dinkum or not. And 0:19:52.530 --> 0:19:54.959 I'll tell you what else. Anthony Albanese needs to be 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.180 there because, you know, his government has put money into this. 0:19:58.900 --> 0:20:01.160 Does he know about this? Did he know about the corruption? 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.909 Good point. So, you know, this is not just a 0:20:03.950 --> 0:20:06.149 state issue and it's not just a state issue for 0:20:06.190 --> 0:20:09.550 two reasons. One is as Victoria's economy goes down, it 0:20:09.570 --> 0:20:11.590 will drag the rest of Australia down with it because 0:20:11.630 --> 0:20:13.470 it's a big economy and it gets a lot of 0:20:13.540 --> 0:20:16.780 GST redistribution and The second point is that the money 0:20:16.859 --> 0:20:20.359 going in is not just state money. It is federal 0:20:20.420 --> 0:20:24.109 money as well. So someone from the federal government, it 0:20:24.150 --> 0:20:26.390 should be Anthony Albanese, but it could be someone else, 0:20:26.869 --> 0:20:29.190 needs to be put in front of this Royal Commission 0:20:29.230 --> 0:20:32.669 because all Australians need to get to the bottom of 0:20:32.780 --> 0:20:34.480 what has happened in Victoria. 0:20:36.300 --> 0:20:39.160 And, of course, the public money goes to the CFMEU. 0:20:39.180 --> 0:20:42.800 The CFMEU washes that to the Labor Party in donations. 0:20:43.020 --> 0:20:47.280 So he's a beneficial witness as well as anything else. 0:20:47.740 --> 0:20:50.179 Thank you, gentlemen. See you both next week. All right, 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.700 let's bring in now the Federal Opposition Leader on what's 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.590 been a pretty long week but a big day in 0:20:54.630 --> 0:20:58.790 Canberra too, with Labor finally unveiling its migration policy. He 0:20:58.830 --> 0:21:01.649 was a bit fired up in the Chamber earlier today, 0:21:01.730 --> 0:21:02.810 giving Labor a spray. 0:21:03.890 --> 0:21:06.929 I'll tell you what's revealing about this, Prime Minister. He 0:21:07.050 --> 0:21:11.940 cuts health services to our veterans, but he keeps funding 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.720 welfare and housing deposits for non-Australians, Deputy Speaker. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.320 Well, those opposite will always put. 0:21:19.700 --> 0:21:21.780 They'll always put Australians second. 0:21:22.100 --> 0:21:24.399 We'll always put Australians first! 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.320 Langus Taylor, pretty fired up there today. 0:21:30.210 --> 0:21:34.109 Well, absolutely, Peter, because this government does put Australians second. 0:21:34.369 --> 0:21:38.230 It puts our veterans second. And we've seen that in 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.440 this budget. This is a government that has cut for veterans, 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.380 cut for veterans in the budget. They've finally had to 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.280 go back on that after an enormous amount of pressure 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.700 from ourselves and, of course, from veterans as well, a 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.740 loud roar from the veterans. But at the same time, 0:21:56.590 --> 0:22:01.260 they are giving welfare programs and home deposit support... For non-Australians, 0:22:01.380 --> 0:22:04.740 I mean, their priorities are wrong and they need to 0:22:04.780 --> 0:22:08.480 put Australians first. And, of course, the Australians who most 0:22:08.580 --> 0:22:12.860 need support from time to time is, of course, our veterans. 0:22:12.940 --> 0:22:15.020 And when they're in trouble, we should be with them. 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:17.510 They're prepared to fight for our country. We've got to 0:22:17.550 --> 0:22:18.090 fight for them. 0:22:19.910 --> 0:22:22.230 Let's go to that announcement today by Tony Burke, and 0:22:22.270 --> 0:22:24.550 I made the point in terms of the overall numbers. 0:22:25.310 --> 0:22:28.260 It's a mirror... to what was announced by the Treasurer 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.219