1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Groovers. Welcome to another installment. It's your favorite podcast and mine, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: you project Melissa, Good morning. How are you? Yeah, I'm 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty good at Sunday. I'm up and about, you know, 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: doing what I can. Just keep it real. That was 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: very presumptuous of me to assume that this is anyone's 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: favorite podcast. I should have just gone with everyone. Welcome 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: to a podcast doesn't really have the same kind of 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: captivating it, does it. Welcome to another one of the 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: one point nine million podcasts on the planet vying for 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: your attention that you project er. How are you feeling? 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm good? 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. Now, I'm not going to throw you under 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: the bus. I'm not going to go the whole hog, 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: but I'm just going to say to the masses you 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: haven't been your most optimal lately. We're not going to 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: open the door too wide, but you've been a bit crooked. 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: But you're coming good. I am coming good. Thank you, 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah. Do you need a group hug from 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: the typ faithful? 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: That's lovely, thank you. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: If you could all send flowers, roses and small cash donations. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: What's the address again, you idiot? All large case donations, no, 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: no pressure, but you know it would help just gaging. 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: So let's jump into it. Let's not do a ten 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: minute preamble as is often the way. You know what 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: the other day we've been getting. Oh, here I go 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: doing a pre amble. Fuck, can't help myself? Feel free 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: to fast forward through this bit? No really? So the 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: what's that episode four twenty two Becoming ungive Upable? Well, 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: today is Sunday as we record this, and that went up, 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know last Sunday maybe, And today we've 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: got Mark randolph On who was an absolute straight up killer. 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I love that episode. Killer means good thing in this jargon. 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: And you know when you meet someone even you know 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: via the interwebs, but you're face to face with somebody 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: in an electronic sense or a cyber sense, and you think, ah, 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, this guy's high profile, he's done some amazing stuff. 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: He started Netflix. I hope he's not a dick. Now, 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: other people don't think that, but that's what I think. 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: I think, because you know, like, I've met some pretty 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: high profile, famous people who are doing well, and some 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: of them are terrific, but some of them nah, like nah, 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: you just stayed yourself Champ or Champ Itte and but 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: he was a ripper. I so loved his energy, and 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: I so loved how normal and practical and you know, 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: generous he was with his knowledge and his time and 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: his energy. And it's bloody amazing to meet people who 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: this sounds wrong, but you know you think, oh, look, 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: if he was a bit up himself, I would kind 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: of get it. Yeah. Yeah, And he's talking to some 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: shitkicker in Australia that he's never going to meet or 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: see you again. And you know, it's not like we're 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: the Joe Rogan experience and we're going to change the 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: trajectory of his life. But we do have a pretty 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: big audience now, which is good. But I just love 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, here's this dude who's done 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: some and not just Netflix, but lots of other things, 58 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: and lots of charity stuff and you know, doing lots 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: of good for humanity around the world and comes on 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: and is very generous and very present. And you know 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: what else. I don't know if you noticed this about him, 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: but he he'd done a bit of research on really yes, 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: because halfway through the show I said something like, you know, 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet. Sorry, sorry, sorry, My bad. 65 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, sorry, I have multiple producers. Well let's be honest, 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: I have to, but I forget who produces her. But anyway, 67 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: half through the thing, and I hadn't given him any background. 68 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: We were just talking and I said, well, maybe I 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: can't remember what I said, but I gave him some 70 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: theory on something and he goes, so says the PhD candidate, right, 71 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what does he know that? So he's 72 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: clearly done a bit of background stuff, and I thought, 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: how interesting is it even at someone at that level 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: who probably does a million interviews and podcasts, and he's 75 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: still prepped and he's still ready to go, and he's 76 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: still informed. And it's like we spoke to him for 77 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, but like fifty minutes 78 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: or so, and he was just very present. And I 79 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: love talking to people, and they don't have to be 80 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: founders of Netflix. They can be anyone anywhere, but just 81 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I love talking to interesting, fascinating people who who won 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: have done some good stuff, but to want to help 83 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: other people do some good stuff. So that was good. 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: But also what I was going to say was last 85 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: week listening to because everyone's going, oh, I love that like, 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: we got so much feedback on four twenty two, which 87 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: for me was just it was almost like just an 88 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: add on episode where I went, I want to talk 89 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: about this thing at some stage, you know, essentially being 90 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: ungive upable, which is, you know, not that not that 91 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: anyone's really ungive uppable, as in we're never ever ever 92 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: going to stop anything, or we're always going to persevere 93 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: with every but you know, becoming more resilient and more 94 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: capable and becoming the person who finishes stuff rather than 95 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: throwing it in. You know. It was around that, But 96 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: I thought I might have a listen because you know, 97 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: I've rarely listened to what we do because I heard 98 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: it already. I was there, and I hate listening to 99 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: my home bullshit. But I went, I'll have a listener 100 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: and I'll see what we must have got fifty to 101 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: one hundred comments from people saying that was the best 102 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: podcast I've ever heard, Mike, really, I couldn't even remember. 103 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: And anyway, so I jumped in you and I spoke 104 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: for fucking twelve minutes about nothing, of course, and I'm like, 105 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: even I was getting sick of me and you, I'm like, 106 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: hurry the fuck up. 107 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, we're currently I don't know, six or seven minutes 108 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: in speaking about nothing. 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: Oh big sip of water, excuse me, everyone, I just 110 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: said to well, I said to everyone, feel free to 111 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: fast forward through it, all right. So he was, in 112 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: some ways a very small catalyst or a part of 113 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: the catalyst for this conversation that I want to have 114 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: today and I want to talk about, Well, the title 115 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: is the late Bloomer, but I want to talk about 116 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: stepping into new opportunities or creating new opportunities, or changing 117 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: perhaps the direction of our career or our thinking, or 118 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: our lifestyle or our behavior or our reality whatever that 119 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: means when we're not sixteen or twenty or twenty two, 120 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: but maybe thirty or thirty five or forty or maybe 121 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: sixty or seventy, right, And it doesn't necessarily mean throwing 122 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: out everything we do or everything we've been doing. But 123 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: maybe it means hitting the pause button, no matter what 124 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: our age is, and reassessing and starting to question the 125 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: stories that we tell ourselves about what we can do 126 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: or what's possible or what's likely or what's appropriate for 127 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: me at my age. And I'm not saying this because 128 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm in my fifties. I'm saying this because I've always 129 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: thought this, and I've always been intrigued by the way 130 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: that you know, when I was twenty, I was fascinated 131 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: that I would meet fifty and sixty year olds who 132 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: were not that different to me, like keen and excited 133 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: and enthusiastic, and young in their thinking and young in 134 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: their behavior and learning stuff and doing stuff and being 135 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: adventurous and taking chances. And they were thirty years older 136 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: than me. And then I would meet people who were forty, 137 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: who were like fucking eighty, who were stuck in their ways, 138 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: who were living in a time warp, who were in 139 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: this permanent holding pattern of thinking and behavior, behavior and 140 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: misery and outcome, and then basically, you know, telling themselves 141 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: they've fucking missed the boat. 142 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like what, and just waiting for retirement. 143 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, just sliding into my twilight years and just surviving 144 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: my career so then I can be happy when I'm 145 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: sixty five. Fuck, what a terrible plan. And if they 146 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: were doing something that was monotonous but gave them joy, 147 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: then keep going. And we're not talking about what is 148 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: a good job or what is a bad job, or 149 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: what is a good existence? Or a bad existence, or 150 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: what is a good diet or bad diet, or good 151 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: relationship or bad relationship. We're not talking about that from 152 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: a generic, global, universal point of view. We're talking about 153 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: for you, the individual listener, what works for you. Because 154 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: if you're working in a factory putting labels on cans, 155 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: no disrespect that all to anyone who works in a factory, 156 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: but you fucking love it and you love that you 157 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: start at seven and finish at three, and from three 158 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: on a Friday to seven on a Monday, the world 159 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: is yours and it pays pretty well and it ticks 160 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: the box, then that's what you should do because it's 161 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: meeting your needs on a multitude of levels. Conversely, if 162 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: you're earning a million bucks a year or two million 163 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: bucks a year doing this high profile thing that looks 164 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: to be amazing, and you seem to be successful from 165 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: the outside looking in, but the byproduct of what you 166 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: do is for the most part physical, mental emotional turmoil 167 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: and stress, and when people aren't looking your experience is 168 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: not one of success or happiness or joy, rather anxiety 169 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: and depression and mental fatigue and exhaustion. Then maybe that 170 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: job is not the right job for you, and maybe 171 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: there's time to change. And so I feel like, through 172 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the countless conversations that I've had over the years, that 173 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: some people settle and some people talk themselves out of 174 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: the potential for more. And it's not about their potential. Actually, 175 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: it's about their story about their potential. And it's not 176 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: about their age. It's about their story about their age. 177 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: And I always wonder what. I wonder what life would 178 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: be like, and I wonder what people would be like, 179 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: and I wonder what relationships would be like. And imagine 180 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: a world where no ages were kept, Melissa, Imagine going 181 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: for an interview and they had no idea how old 182 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: you were, even looking at you, right, Because what we 183 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: do is in our culture, automatically we look at somebody. 184 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: I do it too. I'm not saying this is a 185 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying this is a human thing exactly, and we 186 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: might not judge them critically, but we look at people 187 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: and go, oh, so we make certain assumptions because well, 188 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: this lady or this dude is sixty ish, or this 189 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: lady or this dude is twenty ish. It's different, and 190 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: we immediately we all do it. But I don't know 191 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: that it actually is a good thing because more often 192 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: than not, I think we're assuming things which are either 193 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: completely untrue or somewhat untrue, rather than going, let me 194 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: just get to know the person. Not let me get 195 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: to know the person who is sixty, or let me 196 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: know the person who is seventy or twenty, but let 197 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: me just know the person. Because one of the problems 198 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: or challenges for us is we do live in a 199 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: culture and are a mindset and a society, especially in 200 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: First world countries, which is very ageist. Yes we are. 201 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: You know, we are evaluated and judged and labeled, and 202 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: not just sociologically in groups and person to person and 203 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: out on the street, but by the government and by 204 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: media and social media. We are judged and evaluated and 205 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: labeled based on our age. Now for some things that works, 206 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: like for example, okay, you are this age, you get 207 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: a pension, or you get access to these medical resources. 208 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: I get that because obviously there is a practical element 209 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: to aging, which is biology, and things happen. And we're 210 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: not pretending that people don't get old, or I'm not 211 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: pretending that people don't get old, and I'm not pretending 212 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: that age isn't thing. But I don't really want to 213 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: focus on the biology of aging, although will talk about 214 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: it a bit, But I want to talk about the 215 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: psychology of aging, and I want to talk about the 216 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: psychology of behavior at certain ages based on thinking. So, 217 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, when I was thirty six, I went to 218 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: university for the first time, never been to university, never 219 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: did anything post year twelve of any significance anyway, And 220 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: I remember, it's funny and I look back now at 221 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: me at thirty six, and I realized how young I was. 222 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: But I also realized, at thirty six, in an environment 223 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: of eighteen year olds, how old I was. And it's 224 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: so funny over the course of twenty years that, of 225 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: course I was the same dude, it was me, But 226 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: me then was feeling super old because in the contrast 227 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: of the group that I was in the students, I 228 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: were with the people that I was eating lunch with 229 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: my friends who got their pea plates, I was like 230 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: their fucking dad. I was like the old group mascot. 231 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, many of them telling me 232 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: as I often get in the second half of the 233 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: first year, we were all fucking terrified of you. In 234 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: the first semester, and I'm like why, and they're like, 235 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: because you're a big scary dad. I'm like, but I 236 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: just wanted to be another one of you, you know. 237 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: But it was funny. But then, and I even look, 238 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: to be honest, I didn't get a whole lot of 239 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: pushback or flack white people going to UNI. It was 240 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: mainly positive. But it's funny. In our culture there are 241 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: look and it is changing, which is good, but it's 242 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: not changing fast enough. I actually think for many people, 243 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: the best time to go to university. I'm not talking 244 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: about all people, but I think for a reasonable percentage 245 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: of university the best time. To a reasonable percentage of people, 246 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: I think the the best time to go to university 247 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: is post thirty because you're different. I don't think for everyone, 248 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: by the way, but I know when I was eighteen, 249 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: if I had to go and choose a tertiary course 250 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: and immerse myself in an undergrad degree for three or 251 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: four years, I would have literally just been fucking throwing 252 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: darts out of board and going, let's see what the 253 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: dart lay. Okay, I'm going to be an engineer, alrighty, 254 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: then off I go engineering for me. Look out, bridges 255 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: of the world. Here, I come fucking hell, you know, 256 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: But I was a fucking idiot till I was thirty five. 257 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I mean. I kind of knew 258 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to list shit and work in gyms, but 259 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: clearly no one's going to make any money out of that, right. 260 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: But then as it turned out, I did it when 261 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: all right. I mean, I didn't become rich, but I 262 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: had some gyms, I had some staff. It worked out 263 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: all right. But for me, I was essentially figuring it 264 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: out as I went. But I think another thing to 265 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: think about this stuff is that not for everyone, but 266 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: for a lot of people, what we're doing, and it 267 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: could be a relationship. It could be owning a business, 268 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: It could be having a career in a particular profession 269 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: or industry. It could even be the way that we 270 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: train our body. Or it could even be, which seems controversial, 271 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: the way that we eat. But a lot of things 272 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: have a used by date. And what might blow your 273 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: socks off and make you happy and fulfilled and excited 274 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: when you're twenty to thirty might be completely different or 275 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: might not be the same. When you're thirty to forty 276 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: might be different again forty to fifty or choose any 277 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: age bracket. I know that for me, the idea of 278 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing now would have held zero appeal 279 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: in my twenties. You know, for me to go and 280 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: research psychology at a deep level in the human experience 281 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: and sit in a fucking cubicle and talk to the 282 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: world about the meaning of life, I would have gone, 283 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: fuck off, give me some chicken and a dumbell your fuck. 284 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: We'd get out of my way, right because I just 285 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, I was interested, but I wasn't where I 286 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: am now, not better or worse, just at a different 287 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: state of my journey. And just like back then, I 288 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: was so fascinated with lifting heavy shit and how muscles worked, 289 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: and adaptation and physiology and fucking looking like a freak 290 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: and training athletes and high performance and a physical level 291 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: and getting people to run fast and jump high and 292 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: hit hard and be like ultimate warriors in their sport. 293 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I loved that and I still find it fascinating, but 294 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: it's not where my attention or my focus or my 295 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: passion is. So I think that you know this notion 296 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: that we need to find out what we want to 297 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: do when we're young, and then that's your calling. Brian 298 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: that's you for the next thirty years, or that's you, Gail. 299 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: There you go, Love, You're going to be a nurse 300 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: until you're dead, or a surgeon til you're dead or whatever, 301 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: or a fucking an astronaut or who cares a barista, 302 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, right, But it's realizing that, you know, we will, 303 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: like flowers, bloom every year, us late bloomers, we might 304 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: rebloom every five or ten years into a different flower. 305 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: The fucking hell I like that? Yeah, right, where we 306 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: just go? So this is what I do now. Now 307 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: I'm a speaker. Now I'm a coach. Now I'm a 308 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: personal trainer. Now I'm a classroom teacher. Now. I mean, 309 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: we've had several ladies contact us in the last year 310 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: or two who have gone back to nursing, to have 311 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: gone to study nursing in their early fifties and have 312 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: finished and qualified. Mandy that used to work for me, 313 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Mandy Bolden who Mandy went and did nursing in her 314 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: late forties, mid to late forties. She's now a nurse, 315 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: but she didn't start nursing till she was nearly half 316 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: a century old. She's great at it. And you know, 317 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: here's the thing. There's it's this kind of mindset around 318 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: what we should or what we shouldn't do based on 319 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: how old we are, and it's you know, of course 320 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: we're going to age, of course, but I believe that 321 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: a huge amount of how we age is dependent on choices, behavior, choices, 322 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: behavior and mindset. So you know, I fully believe that. 323 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: And I don't mean this sound on any level arrogant 324 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: or egotistical, because I am the most mediocre person. I know. 325 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: I'm not naturally gifted at anything. I'm not genetically gifted. 326 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm not intellectually gifted. I'm not athletically gifted. I'm like, 327 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: look up, fucking mediocre. You'll see a snapshot of me 328 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: grinning like a stupid motherfucker back off the screen, right. 329 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: That is me. But I know that my brain and 330 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: my body and my health and my energy and my 331 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: mindset and my habits and my behaviors and my lifestyle, 332 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: and I think is not typical for my age. I 333 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: know that, and I know that because I talk to 334 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: lots of people my age, and I see lots of 335 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: people my age, and there's no judgment, there's awareness. And 336 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying better or worse, but what I am 337 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: saying is if I said to you, Okay, whatever age 338 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: you are, now, would you like to have the physical, mental, 339 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: and emotional energy of somebody ten or fifteen or twenty 340 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: years Yes, younger. Everybody would say yes, because who the 341 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: fuck doesn't want to feel function better than they currently do. 342 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: So I know that my brain doesn't work like a 343 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: typical fifty seven year old because I don't drink, I 344 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: don't smoke, I don't ad shit. I sleep great. You 345 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: know how many hours I slept last night? By the way, 346 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: unlessa I'm going to guess ten, yeah, ten and a half. 347 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: Fucking my cells. My cells were giving me a round 348 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: of applause. They're like, you fucking rock right. And what 349 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying is that the way that we age and 350 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: the rate at which we age is controllable and manipulatable 351 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: to a point. Of course, there is a genetic element 352 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: and an unavoidable element to physiological aging. Of course, nobody's 353 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: going to live forever. But we've all met seventy year 354 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: olds that are young, and we've all met forty five 355 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: year olds that are old. And so for me, it's 356 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: exciting to talk to people like doctor Ingrid, who became 357 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: a nun. She did five years as a nun. Then 358 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: she became a doctor. Then she became a coroner, a 359 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: medical doctor. Then she became a coroner doing autopsies. I 360 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: think she did like seven thousand autopsies. Then she went 361 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: back to study in her thirties to become a psychiatrist, 362 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: so another five or six years of study on top 363 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: of I don't know ten years of previous. Then she 364 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: became a psychiatrist. Then she figured out how to be 365 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: a single mum with three kids and emigrate to Australia 366 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: and figured out how to do. Then she figured out 367 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: how to become a leading psychiatrist in her field in 368 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: Australia and navigate this new country and this new system 369 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: and this new culture while being a single mum, like 370 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: fucking amazing. And then in her mid sixties she's now 371 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: seventy three. Then in her mid sixties she goes, I 372 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: think I'm going to start to do strength training and 373 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: not just strength training, heavy strength training, and I think 374 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to start to run. And so she's now 375 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: run a marathon and continues to run multiple regular half 376 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: marathons in her seventy three year old body. That doesn't 377 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: look all function like a seventy three year old body, 378 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: because her behavior makes it so and her thinking makes 379 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: it so. And so she I think she told us. 380 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm almost positive she told us to her biological age 381 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: was late thirties. Do you remember, I think that was 382 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: the case. Even let's go rock bottom, you know, forty, 383 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, but I'm pretty sure. So give 'll take 384 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: a quarter of a century younger. What does that mean? 385 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that if we're going by the calendar, 386 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: of course she's seventy three. But we know that the 387 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: calendar doesn't need to dictate the way that a person feels, functions, thinks, 388 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: or behaves. And so her body from a fitness and 389 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: strength and function and aerobic and muscular endurance and strength 390 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: and power and speed and reaction time and all of 391 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: these measurables, her body is closer to a forty year 392 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: old than a seventy three year old. That's all it means. 393 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: And why is it because she's a genetic freak? She 394 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: said herself, No, she doesn't have great genetics. But why 395 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: it is is because she's decided what's going to be 396 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: her default setting in terms of lifestyle and behaviors. And 397 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: habits and all of those things. And some people would 398 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: say she a late bloomer. Maybe she is, But isn't 399 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: it good that in your mid sixties and in your 400 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: seventies you can be doing things which are unconventional and 401 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: atypical that produce an amazing result. I think that, you know, 402 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: we growing up feel free to interrupting with list. So 403 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: I feel that growing up we kind of get told 404 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: either directly or indirectly, consciously or unconsciously, overtly or subliminally. 405 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: You like how I use all of those things to 406 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: do what's expected, you know, kind of do what's expected 407 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: career wise and lifestyle wise and relationship wise and habits 408 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: and behaviors. And I've told this story once before, but 409 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: this little moment in time I had that was about 410 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: three or four minute encounter. I haven't seen this guy since, 411 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: but a few years ago. I was out in the 412 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: front of my house, just fucking around with my gates 413 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: at the end of my driveway, and I saw this 414 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: dude coming from my street. I was going to say 415 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: south road in people like, where's that? But anyway, heading 416 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: down from what you know to be south road towards 417 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: my place and on a skateboard on what they call 418 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: a long board, and he had long hair, and he 419 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: had on a flannel shirt and he had on jeans 420 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: and sneakers, and I just thought it was a twenty 421 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: year old just out just fucking cruising suburbia and he 422 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: was kind of hammering. Yeah, and it was. And anyway, 423 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: he got he got to the corner just near my house, 424 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: which is on a corner, and he had to stop, 425 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: pick up his board and walk around a car, and 426 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: then literally we kind of intersected, and I went and 427 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: he was about sixty five, right, really yep yep, yep, yep. 428 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: And he moved like I'm used to watching bodies move. 429 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: I know what most sixty five year old bodies move like. 430 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: And I just grabbed. I go, I said, can I 431 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: can I talk to you seck? He goes yeah, sure, 432 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: I go. Can I be really rude? If it was 433 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: a lady, I wouldn't have asked, but I feel like 434 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: with a dude, you can get away with it. I go, 435 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: can I ask you how old you are? And he 436 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: goes sixty five. I go, you're a fucking weapon and 437 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: he laughs. He goes, yeah, I get that. I go, 438 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: how long have you been skateboarding. He goes fifty five 439 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: years and I go, so, it's not like you used 440 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: to skate and you gave it up and you came back. 441 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I never stopped. I never stopped. And 442 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: he was an executive and he'd finished and he was 443 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: doing new stuff. I didn't go into it too deep. 444 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: But what I loved was, here's this guy out his energy. 445 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: Like I looked at this dude. He had gray hair, 446 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: half gray black hair halfway down his back. He gave 447 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: no fucks about what people thought. But he was a 448 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: nice person. He didn't care if it wasn't. He wasn't 449 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: skating down the street going oh, I wonder what people 450 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: think of me. He wasn't going shit. I don't know 451 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: if skateboarding is age appropriate activity for me. Maybe I 452 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: should check with the vic GUV website recommendations for sixty 453 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: five year olds, because fuck, I hope this is I 454 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: don't know if this is on the band list. He 455 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: gave no facts, right, And the fact was he moved 456 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: like a thirty year old, and you know, he was 457 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: just so good. He'd been doing it so long that 458 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: he just didn't fall off. It was like that was it. 459 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: Was just like he and the board moved as one 460 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: and he kind of skated off into the distance and 461 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: that like one. He was cool and I loved meeting 462 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: with him, But I also thought, I also thought, why 463 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: was I so surprised? Like, well, he's a human, he's skateboarding. 464 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: What's the surprise? And the surprise is you never see 465 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: that exactly, because like, could you imagine rocking up to 466 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: someone's birth a sixty year old someone, and you buy 467 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: him a skateboard? Everyone would be like, what the fuck 468 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: are you doing? I bought him a skateboard for his birthday? 469 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: What four? 470 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: So he can go skate Everyone would think you were 471 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: a moron, right, But I guarantee you given the right 472 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: setting and of course pads and all that. You know. 473 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: You know my favorite saying that I've said a thousand times, 474 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow 475 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: old because we stop playing, right. It's so true And 476 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: I remember many times as a kind of an echo 477 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: of the story I just told I would I when 478 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: I was a trainer, my second one to my second gym, 479 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: the one. Anyway, you know where Dandy Park in Brighton 480 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: is so Dandy Park's a massive park, it must be luck. 481 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Three k's around that park. Four k's. I know what 482 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: it is. It's fairly big. And my second gym was 483 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: two hundred meters from there, and I remember one night 484 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: I used to train these three dudes together. They're in 485 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: their fifties and they were like early fifties, fifty one 486 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: to two three at that stage. Train them in the gym. 487 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: And one night, it was a summer night and it 488 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: was warm. There was fair few people in the gym, 489 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: so I grabbed a footy in a frisbee and I said, boys, 490 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: we're going to go to the park. And they're like, what, 491 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: I go, We're going to go the park. So we 492 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: job jogged to the park. So I've got these three 493 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: fifty something blokes and we've left the treadmills, We've left 494 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: the fancy bikes and the steppers and the grinders and 495 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: the elliptical striders and the fucking fancy pinloaded machine and 496 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: now we're standing on grass with a footy worth ten 497 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: bucks and a frisbee and these maniacs. Right. I was 498 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: up one end with the the other with one bloke, 499 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: and the other two boys were up the and I 500 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: say boys because they're fucking boys at this stage, and 501 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: we were doing kick to kick footy, so kicking the footy, 502 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: mark and the footy depending on where you live, catching 503 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: the footy that's called we call it marking in Australian rules, catching, kicking, catching, kicking, 504 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: taking hangars and speckis on each other, calling out, leading bloody, 505 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: doing different drills, handball drills, kicking drills, running around. Then 506 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: we played a kind of a game that I used 507 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: to play with them with the frisbee and they spent 508 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: the best part of an hour running around like forteen 509 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: year olds. Now I've been training these guys for a 510 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: couple of years at this stage, and they all came 511 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: up to me and said in unison, that was the 512 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: best session we have ever had. Now I'm the exercise scientist. 513 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I've been training them like precision training on the expensive 514 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: equipment that I bought, and you know, ticking all of 515 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: these physiological boxes that I need to tick to make 516 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: sure that we're addressing or you know, fuck all that shit. 517 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: Run around and be a child and kick a footy 518 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: and throw a frisbee and forget the fact that you're 519 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: fifty five or fifty three or whatever you are, and 520 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: have some fun. And the interesting thing was, I would 521 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: say all of them ran over five kilometers, maybe over 522 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: six kilometers right now. If I said to them, we're 523 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: running five or six k's, they'd all tell me to 524 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: get fucked. If I said, and not only that one, 525 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it. They'd rebel or if I mean, 526 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: if I, if I, if I turned on Nasty Craig, 527 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: then do it. But I don't need to do that reluctantly. 528 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't. But I wouldn't make them do it 529 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: because why they'd fucking hate it. And I don't want 530 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: to make people do things that they hate. But it's 531 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: actually called cognitive dissociation when you do something. But like so, 532 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: what they're doing is running and expending energy and moving 533 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: their body in a rather intense way. But what they're 534 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: actually doing is playing games. What they're actually doing is 535 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: reliving their childhood. What they're actually doing is having fun 536 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: with their mates. What they're actually doing is fucking around 537 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: than just being in the moment right now, who's going 538 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: to prescribe kicking a footy at Dendy Park. No one. 539 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: But that's exactly what we need to do sometimes. What 540 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: we need to do is stop behaving our age. What 541 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: we need to do is stop telling ourselves self limiting 542 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: stories about our age. So back to me at UNI, 543 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: thirty six, oldest person in the course by far, literally 544 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: twice everyone else's age on average, because nearly everyone was eighteen. 545 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: There were a few older people, but the oldest person 546 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: in exercise science in the first year exercise Science when 547 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: I did it, there was only about ninety people in 548 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: the course. The oldest person other than me was I 549 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: think twenty seven, twenty eight or twenty seven. And then 550 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: obviously I don't know, heading towards eighteen months ago. Now 551 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: I went back to UNI for the second time, literally 552 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: twenty years later. First time thirty six, second time fifty 553 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: six doing a PhD. Nobody's going to recommend anyone's start 554 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: a PhD at fifty six. That's a stupid idea. And 555 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: by the way, Craig, why are you doing it? You 556 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: don't need to. You've done well, you're successful, you've made 557 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: a few bucks, you're doing all right, it's all right. 558 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: What do you do? You know? But if I wasn't 559 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: fifty six, people wouldn't be saying that. Yes, if I 560 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: was thirty nine and I just finished my first degree. 561 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: People would be going, well, that's a natural progression, Craig, 562 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: well done, because you just did your undergrad you're doing 563 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: this and now you've stepped up to that and dah 564 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: da dah. But at fifty six, most people's curiosity is 565 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: not around why am I doing a PhD in europsychology 566 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: or their main fascination is not tell me about your 567 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: research to their main fascination is why are you doing it? 568 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: And what they really mean is why the fuck are 569 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: you doing it? You'll be sixty when you finish, like 570 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: what four? And I go why not? And no one 571 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: wants to go because you're fifty six. But that's kind 572 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: of what they're thinking. And this is one of the 573 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: stories we tell ourselves, is we go, well, yeah, but 574 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: you've done, you know, Like, imagine if fifty or forty five, 575 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: Imagine if that's the time for some people anyway at 576 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, Imagine if forty five is where you 577 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: start to fucking hit your straps as it possible one 578 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: hundred percent. What if forty five is the time where 579 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: you start to really or thirty five or forty or 580 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: fifty five or whatever is the time where you really 581 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: start to open the door on the exciting shit and 582 00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: learning and growing. I know one hundred percent, no, so 583 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: that my brain works better now than when I was 584 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: in my twenties. Yeah, and that's not meant to happen, 585 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: like my ability to do lots of shit, to be productive, 586 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: to be present, to focus, to study, to produce good outcomes, 587 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: to maintain my physical, mental, emotional an academic from one 588 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: of a better word energy, it's better than it's ever been. 589 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: But that's it's not better ever than it's ever been 590 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: because that was predetermined because I'm doing the work. 591 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was going to say. It didn't 592 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: just happen that way. It's because you've worked on it. 593 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: You've made that kind of happen, you've been conscious of it, 594 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 2: and you've taken active steps to make sure that you're 595 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: in that place. 596 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and look, I think I think that you know, 597 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: the reality is that we do live in an ageis 598 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: paradigm most of us. Where you know, if you if 599 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: you've got certain skills and experience and talent and ability 600 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: and you're twenty eight and you go for a job 601 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: or you're the same person but you're fifty eight. Unfortunately, 602 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: we live in a system that most employers will disadvantage 603 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: you because you're fifty eight. And I don't agree with that, 604 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: but I get it. I understand it because they're interested 605 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: in their welfare, not yours. And I think, you know 606 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: it's it's really you know, so many people that I've 607 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: spoken to, and everyone's spoken to somebody and heard something similar, 608 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: But so many people that I've spoken to have said 609 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: a version of this. Wasn't my plan. This wasn't where 610 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: I meant to end up. I didn't think. I didn't 611 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: think at this age i'd be doing this. I didn't 612 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: think that my life, my experience, my outcomes, my reality 613 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: would be this. And I understand that, completely understand that. 614 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: And then my next question is, Okay, so you aren't 615 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: where you thought or hoped or dreamt you might be. Okay, 616 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: so you've still got you know, you're forty, You've maybe 617 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: got another forty years, maybe got another fifty, who knows. 618 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: We don't know how much time you got, but what 619 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: we know is you're not dead. What we know is 620 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 1: you live in Australia or you live in a first 621 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: world country. Most people who listen to this anyway, and 622 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: what we know is you know you can still make decisions, 623 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: you can still change behavior, you can still get uncomfortable, 624 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: and even if it's a tiny step in a new direction, 625 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: a tiny step can you take. No, you can't reinvent 626 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: yourself over the next week, or you can't turn your 627 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: life upside down today. We get that. And you can't 628 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: find a brand new career by lunchtime. We get all 629 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: of that, right, But let's get out of all of 630 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: the reasons and all of the things that we can't 631 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: do because we get it. We know it's hard, yep. 632 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: We know that life's not fair. Yep. We know people 633 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: picked on you. Yep. We know that ageism exists. Yep, 634 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: we know all the bad shit. We're not pretending the 635 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: bad shit isn't real. But what I'm saying to you 636 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: you now, in this moment in your life, is what 637 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: is possible for you to do to change your life? 638 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: What is possible? What can you do to change the direction, 639 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: to change your operating system, to change your outcomes, to 640 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: live your purpose? Like, here are some questions. So if 641 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: you want to if for some of you this is turning, 642 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't intend it to, but fuck, here we go. If 643 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: this is turning, into something of a coaching session. I'm 644 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: going to give you some questions. My first question is 645 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: this right now, when I say all of this stuff, 646 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: all of you know, I think you know. If you don't, 647 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: you're about to know, because I'm going to tell you. 648 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm not pretending that any of this is quick, easy, fast, 649 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: or painless. I'm not pretending that. But guess what, every 650 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: single one of you, hopefully in five years you're going 651 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: to be five years older. Well, let's be honest, you're 652 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: going to be dead, or you're going to be five 653 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: years older. Let's hope that all of you listening to 654 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: this are just going to be five years older. So 655 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, you're going to be five years older. 656 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: I guess depends on when you listen to this, and 657 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: your life is going to be the same. It's going 658 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: to be a bit better, it's going to be a 659 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: lot better. It's going to be wildly better, or it's 660 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: going to be a bit worse or a lot worse, 661 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: or it's going to be catastrophe. That's the truth. It's 662 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: going to be somewhere on the scale between fucking horrendous 663 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: and fucking amazing. I don't know where it is right now. 664 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: But what I know is that the next five years 665 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: is going to happen anyway. The next year is going 666 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: to happen anyway, the next two years, three four years 667 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: are going to happen anyway, and you're going to be there. 668 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: You're going to be in the middle of those years. 669 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: You're going to be in the middle of that reality. 670 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: You're going to be in the middle of your life. 671 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: Your life is going to continue. Things are going to happen. 672 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: People are going to be shit adds to you. People 673 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: are going to be amazing to you. COVID's going to 674 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: come and go. Things are going to happen, good stuff, 675 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: bad stuff. And then in the middle of all of 676 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: that is you and your questions. Is you and your energy? 677 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: Is you and your thinking and your choices, is you 678 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: and your behaviors? Is you and the reality that you create? 679 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: You and your stories? So here are some questions. So 680 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: my first question is what can I learn? What can 681 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: I learn? Is it possible that my age, whatever your age, 682 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: that I can learn new things? Is it possible that 683 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: I can develop new skills? Number two? What's possible for me? 684 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: What's possible for me, not what's probable, not what's likely, 685 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: not what does my past tell me, but what is possible. See, 686 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: what's possible is that you can do some fucking incredible 687 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: stuff when you get out of your own way. That's possible. 688 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: If we look at most people and we look at 689 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: typical human behavior. It's not likely, it's not common, it's 690 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: not probable, but it's possible. So when I'm working with people, 691 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't care about life. I don't care about probable. 692 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: I care about what could you do? What could you do? 693 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: What could you change? What could you become? What could 694 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: you achieve? What could you conquer? What could you do 695 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: if you were brave? What could you do if you 696 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: did the work? What could you do if you made 697 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: the decisions? What could you do if you didn't do 698 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: what most people do? What could you do? And then 699 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: the next question is will you do it? And we 700 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: always kind of circle back to this, don't we We 701 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: always circle back away from the theory and into the practice, 702 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 1: into the habit, into the behavior, into the execution. Because, 703 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: as I've said many times on this podcast, and as 704 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: you won't hear lots of programs or in lots of books, 705 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: or although you do hear it, but probably not enough 706 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: is that it isn't about the theory, It isn't about 707 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: what come out of my mouth today on this podcast, 708 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: because all I am is stimulating you. I'm provoking you, 709 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm teaching you. I'm hopefully inspiring you to do something. 710 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: And the reason that I'm doing all of this is 711 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: because I want you to tap into you. I want 712 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: you to get past the shit beliefs and the shit 713 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: self esteem and the shit stories and into the awesomeness 714 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: of what you can do when you let that cognitive 715 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: crap and that emotional crap get out of the way. 716 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: My next question is how can I improve my cognitive function? 717 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: My next question is how can I lower my biological age? 718 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: In other words, how can I make my body function younger? 719 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: In inverted commace? How can I get better? Whatever better 720 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: means for you? How can I use more of my potential? So, 721 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: wherever you are, whoever you are, whatever your age are, 722 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: you are you really using If ten out of ten 723 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: is your potential, what's your number? Right now? I know 724 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: that I'm really having a crack with a lot of 725 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: things in my life in terms of my health and 726 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: my wellness and trying to be a good human and 727 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: trying to learn and grow and trying to be of 728 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 1: value to the world and humanity and my clients and 729 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: my listeners, my audience. I'm really trying, and I'm very 730 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: aware of my bullshit, and I'm very honest about my bullshit, 731 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: of which there is plenty, and my shortcomings, of which 732 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: there are plenty. I'm really having a go, and I 733 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: reconom at five if my potential is ten. I reconom 734 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: at five because I still give myself a get out 735 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 1: of jail card. I still lie to myself. I still 736 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: take the easy option sometimes. And this is not about 737 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: beating ourself up. This is about sometimes we think, oh fuck, 738 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing everything humanly possible. Maybe some people are, but 739 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 1: not most. Because the problem is to really tap into 740 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: our potential is somewhat terrifying, because we need to open 741 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: doors that we don't like opening. Because in order to 742 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: tap into our potential, and I'm talking about deep into 743 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: our potential, I'm talking about the fucking the amazing shit, 744 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: there's going to be some pain. There's going to be 745 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: some suffering, there's going to be some hardship before we 746 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: start to get the rewards. And sometimes we'd rather stay 747 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: on the metaphoric couch because the couch is comfortable. So 748 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: what we do is we stay on the metaphoric couch 749 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: and we just hope that things work out. We hope 750 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: that the next five years will just present opportunities. My 751 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: question is what opportunity can you create? Not what opportunity 752 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: might in inverted commas come your way, but what could 753 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 1: you create yourself? How do you practically create opportunities? How 754 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: can you change your default setting? What am I wasting 755 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: time and energy on right now that I can reshift 756 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: into something more positive and proactive for me? One of 757 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: my old man's or not one of my old man's. 758 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: My old man's best friend is a guy called Gil, 759 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: and I've spoken about Gil a bit. Gil's like my 760 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: second dad. Gil is I think he's eighty. He's either 761 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: seventy nine, eighty or eighty one, but let's go with eighty. 762 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: And what I love about what I love about this 763 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 1: man is he is he is timeless, ageless in that 764 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: it never occurs to him that he's eighty. And I'm 765 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: not talking about you know, he looks eighty and he 766 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: just acts like a juvenile. No, he looks like a healthy, fit, 767 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: strong fifty five sixty year old and every day, pretty 768 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: much of his life, he lives in the bush. He 769 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: or he lives in rural Victoria and he's right next 770 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: to a gigantic forest. He rides his mountain bike and 771 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you know, pedals up and down 772 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: a dirt road three time and times and comes home. 773 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about half day rides out in the middle 774 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: of nowhere with his drink bottle and his puncture kit 775 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: and riding one hundred k's or so in the bush 776 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,479 Speaker 1: and then comes home. You know, he's all over tech. 777 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: He's all over computers, he's got drones, he's got this. 778 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say how much it's worth. 779 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: This ridiculous used to be a truck. It's been converted 780 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: to a mobile home. Like I don't know what do 781 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: you call those things. It's bloody ridiculous. He maintains that 782 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: him and his wife travel all over Australia to the deepest, darkest, 783 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: most remote areas. And you know, one of the things 784 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: that I love is when I meet with him, when 785 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 1: I sit down with him, he doesn't do a cursory 786 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: how's your life going. He will sit with me and 787 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: grill me on what I'm doing and how I'm doing it, 788 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: and why I'm doing it, because he wants to learn 789 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: like he wanted to when I first started talking about 790 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: my research with my study, he was so fascinated and 791 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: he would just sit me down for an hour and 792 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: ask me questions. And I'm not talking about you know 793 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: how people kind of placate you where they're trying to 794 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: be interested. No, he was absolutely riveted to hear about 795 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: what it is I'm researching, why I'm researching it, why 796 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: it matters, how I'm testing it, about the scale that 797 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: I've developed, about why the world needs it, about the 798 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: whole PhD process. And his questions were bloody unbelievable, and 799 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: I could tell he was literally just learning something. He 800 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to make me feel good and all take 801 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: an interest in what Craig's doing. Now, yes he was 802 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: doing that, but moreover, Comma your honor. He was learning 803 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: new stuff and I love that. And this is the thing, 804 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, we are We can't do anything about the calendar. 805 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: We can't do anything about chronological aging. I can't wake 806 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: up tomorrow and be fifty seven fifty six, or I 807 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: can't be fifty five or I can't be thirty five 808 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: or twenty five. But what I can do today and 809 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: what I can do tomorrow with my fifty seven year 810 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 1: old body, I can treat it differently. Fortunately, I treat 811 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: it pretty well, so I probably don't need to make 812 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: a lot of changes. But wherever you are, whoever you are, 813 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: whatever your chronological age, there's no reason why you need 814 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 1: to live that age. And as I said earlier, we're 815 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,280 Speaker 1: not talking about being deluded or acting young, or being 816 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: immature or silly. We're talking about being fully aware of 817 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: what we've got to work with. Right, I have been 818 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: on the planet fifty seven years. I am an endomorph. 819 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: I do have a few injuries. I'm not pretending that 820 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm twenty years old. But what I'm doing with this 821 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: fifty seven year old thing that I have to work with, 822 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm choosing to optimize it. I'm choosing to optimize my brain. 823 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm choosing to optimize my lifestyle. I'm choosing to optimize 824 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: my choices, my behaviors, and my outcomes. Consciously, I don't 825 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: want to be a passenger in my aging life. I 826 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: don't want to be a passenger of inevitability. Oh well, 827 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 1: it's inevitable. You know what. There's a bit of inevitability 828 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: to life, of course, but a lot of what people 829 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: call inevitability to me is actually giving up. It's giving 830 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: up before before we've even opened the door on our 831 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: potential and our possibilities. So, boys and girls, I will 832 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: leave it there. Love your guts. I hope you find 833 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: some value in that. More importantly than that, I hope 834 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: you do something with it. Melissa, thank you for your time, 835 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: thank you, thanks to everyone. Going to be awesome, No pressure, 836 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: Bobby Gats see ya,