1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Well, here we are, all the necessary adjustments to being made. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: We're all in our various kits very much an oasis 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: for them to start. Well. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Oasis was when we recording this last night, bloody Oasis. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: I was out there. 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: How good was it? Oh? Mate? 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: Best? Not only the best concert I think I've ever 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: been to. I think it was the best thing I've 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: ever done. I got to do it two nights in 10 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: a row as well. I was happy. I'll tell you 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: what though, scratchy this morning, dustier than a bloody ceiling fan. 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Isn't funny me? You go out like you can. You 13 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: can stay out, you can be at home with mates 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: and get on the drink and got a bet of 15 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: two o'clock. But even when you go out and about 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: like a night like that where you getting shitloads of 17 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: adrenaline and dopamine, then you go get home about twelve thirty, 18 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: just go. I woke the next day like yeah, after 19 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Oasis and just went oh because we went Friday night 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: and then you went Friday Saturday. Mate. I've often thought 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: this coop and I've had I've said it to sometimes 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: to people, and people who just laughed at me. I 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: don't know if they like anymore. I think Liam Gallagher 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: is the greatest frontman of all time. 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm with you the stage present, because so many bands 26 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: like they've got the big runway through the middle, or 27 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: you've got Taylor Swift who emerges through the air and whatnot. 28 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes he just stands up there, you know, rather rayin 29 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Hale or shine. He's got a rain jacket on, he's 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: got a tambourine which he just puts around his neck 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: or on top of his head, and he doesn't even move, 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: just puts the hands behind the back, leans into the 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: mic and then he just strolls off. When he's not singing, 34 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: He's just good. 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: He presents himself with a real sense of menace, which 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: rock and roll is about. 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Hey, rock and roll will never die. And what I 38 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: loved so many Pommy listeners of Backstage and the family 39 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: potty out there on the second night, mainly because on 40 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: that first night we were kind of in a bit 41 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: more of a less public section. We were in our 42 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: own little bit. But second night, when I was walking 43 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: through Holy Smokes, the amount of people that were coming 44 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: through all these Pommies, a lot of people giving it 45 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: to me because I was wearing a Man United Jersey. 46 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Hen's why Jack's wearing his Oasis man Man. 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: City certainly is. But make the amount upon me listeners 48 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: that were just going love Backstage, Love, Yeah, Love, Family Podcast, Hate, 49 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: Trish Love the Family Podcast, Fucking Marti's fucking sick? 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: Is your dad? 51 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Your dad is one of 52 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: the biggest way because I've ever met my love. 53 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: How do you know we got you most morning? 54 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: A lot of people. Actually you must, you must have 55 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: quite a presence in England because a lot of people 56 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 2: come out going mate love you love your old man. 57 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: Do you know like the band Oasis with the head 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: discarding that tailorly because I really enjoyed that rub on 59 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the belly. 60 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: One other question that. 61 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Like our family we have, we have championed Oasis through 62 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: thick and thin. I will say that like I first 63 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: found Oasis, I'll hang on. 64 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: I was. 65 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: I discovered them with Alan McGee in a nightclub. No, 66 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: it was, I was over on. I was over in 67 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: the UK on a on a rugby league tour, playing 68 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: over there in the World Cup. Who knows they will 69 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: blend in but and I thought that definitely maybe album 70 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: and well, just after it came out, I remember listening 71 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: going because people tip me off because I'm a huge 72 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Beatles fan, as most people are, and they said, no, 73 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: I've got to listen to this young band. It's just 74 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: a merged in England. They're going like the Manchester band. 75 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: They're going north and Mellion miles an hour and had 76 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: to listen and went, holy. 77 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: Shit, So hang on, let me backcheck one second. So 78 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: what you're saying is at this stage, no one in 79 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Australia knew about Oasis. 80 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: No, no, people in Australia were just I don't think coop. 81 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Oasis didn't really hit big in Australia until the second 82 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: album What's the Story in Morning Glory? Because when the 83 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Wonderwall came out, that's the one that really launched them worldwide. 84 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: They've kind of a huge act in the UK, in the 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: parts of Europe on definitely maybe they're their their initial album, 86 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: but the big one was when definitely, when What's the 87 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Story of Morning Glory came out, it sent them in 88 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: a completely different tracks. 89 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: What I hear in my head is that you're calling 90 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: yourself an og cobber. 91 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I am the original and I used to 92 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: play the music to people and they go I mentioned 93 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: Oasis and people gave fucking wankers. 94 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Asked Phil Bailey about this, right, I'm going to do 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: something for you. So I went away and I made 96 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: a forty minute tape of all the Oasis songs all 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: blended together. Said listen to that, and he straightaway. 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: How do you make back then making a tape? What 99 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: did that entail? 100 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: You'd have two stereo. You'd have one stereo with two 101 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: cassette sort of entries, and you put them both in 102 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: and you put one in record, another one in play 103 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: and one would record the other. 104 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: Well, and how long did that tell you? 105 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: A full day? A full day holy shit, dedicated to 106 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: the cause. Wow? 107 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: And do you know who's doing the Who did the 108 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: preact over in the UK was the Verve Bittersweet Symphony 109 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: Richard Ashcroft. 110 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Yes, we get wiganer, Wigan boy. 111 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: Didn't you say that when you playing at Wigan? He 112 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: was cleaning the pool that you guys. 113 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: Used to when we used to we used to do 114 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: after a game sometimes we go to the Wigan bars 115 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: and the man who ran Wigan Bars was Richard rass 116 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: Cross's father, and saw him there once. He was just 117 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: sort of mopping the floor and carrying on. Pretty troubled 118 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: sort of guy, but he's come through the other side now. 119 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: I think most rock stars are quite troubled. Yeah, you 120 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: know I would say that. 121 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But and what was a Ballpark Music? That 122 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: was the support band. I thought they were really, really good. 123 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: I was a disappointed in Melbourne. It was Emmel and 124 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: the Sniffers. I was I was desperate to see Emmal 125 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: and the Sniffers. But Ballpark Music were very very good 126 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: as well. 127 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: Reckon amal and the Sniffers come up with that. 128 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: Name, I imagine, I don't know, yeah, I think they 129 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: had a dog rhymes with amial nitrate. 130 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Best song boys, What do you reckon? Best song? 131 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: What's the story? Mine's Morning Glory? 132 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: Morning Glory was pretty damn good. The whole crowd was 134 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: singing what's the story Morning Glory? And everyone's wrong their 135 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: hands back and forth as they're saying it. 136 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: It was pretty cool. 137 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: A couple of the boots, I Bring It On Down, 138 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: was very very good, and the other one I really liked. 139 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: It's off the master play an album. 140 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Fade Away, well, slide Away as good as one like 141 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: obviously wonder Wall, But I feel like only the like 142 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: the real fake fans would say like wonder Wall, like 143 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: wonderful for me, I don't really like like I would 144 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: never put wonder Wall on in the car and sing 145 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: it like. It's more of a if you want to 146 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: get a room up a karaoke or something, you can 147 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: see wonder Wall. But like the one, the one of 148 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: the best of the mainstream was I Love Champagne Soup 149 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: and over. 150 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: That as well, incredible song. 151 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: Tell Jack Dad, why don't we say what d you said? 152 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: We nearly did on the way home from the Friday 153 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: night concert. Uh, there's a lyric in Live Forever and 154 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Dad wanted to get all three of us get tattoos, 155 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: also lyrics. I'd still do it. If you wanted to 156 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: do it, I'd still get Yeah. 157 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: I was actually surprised you were actually you for those 158 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: None of us have tattoos. 159 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: Yes, but over actually look, I got one on the 160 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: underside of the penis. 161 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: It's good from the City of Cessnok. I hope you 162 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: have a nice day. 163 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: It doesn't fit, goes up right to the back of you. 164 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Now. 165 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the lyric in Live Forever is we'll see 166 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: things they'll never see. And I thought, you know, we've 167 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: been through a fair bit of life experience. There's a 168 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: lot of families are and I thought we should get 169 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: that tatoo. 170 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: I get it still, I swear I even when I 171 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: was out there yessay when they sung it, I was like, 172 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: I'll still get it. 173 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: I'll do it tomorrow. 174 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: This reminds me of them when when I was living 175 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: with Perc briefly for a period there before he went 176 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: to Catalan and all the way. 177 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a we listened to while we're in 178 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: the COVID bubble. 179 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: We used to always play when you were young by 180 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: the Killers, and basically he heard the lyrics the Devil's 181 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: water it ain't so sweet, I don't have to drink 182 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: right now, and it pretty well changed his perspective on 183 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: a lot of things. 184 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: And he got a tattooed in the off season. 185 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. 186 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: My only problem is I wouldn't know where I'd get 187 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: a tattooed, and I'd be worried because I'm not not 188 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: in the quotation bubbles shape of my life, so I'd 189 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: be worried about like getting getting a lyric and then 190 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: shredding right up and then like it becomes all disproportioned. 191 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: I'm way about the opposite. 192 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 4: I feel like you might get it now ways small, 193 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: and then as you get large, you probably warped the. 194 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: Heads or lyrics, the lyrics. What are you going to do? 195 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think maybe on like the back of 196 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: the arm, like the tricep. I could get it there. 197 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: Apparently the trice it hurts. Yeah, they reckon the ridge 198 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: and the lower bag hurts. 199 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: I've seen someone that got I got the camel on 200 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: their toe and they said that was pretty on the 201 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: top of their big toe. 202 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: They said that was pretty difficult. 203 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: Chase Blair Chase Blair on his so you sway for 204 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: Melbourne Storm used to wear the long sleeve Storm jersey 205 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: for those people who didn't know Chase Blair. On his 206 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: right toe he's got a toe. I mean he's got 207 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: a truck. So he's got toe truck like he's a 208 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: truck tattooed on and then left big toe is a 209 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: camel for camel tooe. He thought it was so funny 210 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: every day in. 211 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: The locker rooms, all through that pain for that weak joke. 212 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: But it is. 213 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: It was what a great conversation start He's missing? 214 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: Is there anything else? 215 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 4: I finished with told that he's possibly he's missing that 216 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: he could get put on soon. 217 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: We'll love to think about that. In the meantime, you 218 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: mentioned the impact Oasis have had on music is pretty significant. 219 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean we always think about them. We talk about 220 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: the bands that had an effect on Oasis. We talk about, 221 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: of course the Beatles, we talk about Stone Roses to 222 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: a Rory Gallaher and but the effect they've had another bands, 223 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: and the Killers are the best example of Brendan Flowers, 224 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: whose lead singer are The Killers. He was he was 225 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: a concierge or a park or a park boy or 226 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, valet valet at Caesars Palace and he was 227 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: there or not and his mum worked at Caesars Palace. Anyway, 228 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: the guy who was working with his mummy said, a 229 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: Brandon's a bit of a music fan. Made this a 230 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: band from the UK that have come. It must have 231 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: been enough to definitely maybe who are playing at a 232 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: place tonight and get him tickets. She went, oh, okay, 233 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: no worries, got him two tickets and he went and 234 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: watched Oasis in Caesar's Palace instead to change his life. 235 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: No way, they played at Caesar's Palace, seesze that would 236 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: have been good. Yeah, oh, I still want to I'll 237 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: tell you before we move on to some of the 238 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: Yash's talk and the rugby llyge. I do want to 239 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: say my head hit the pillow last night and I 240 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: was all but decided that I was going to move 241 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: to London and still woke up with thoughts of it. 242 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you know, twenty twenty six, even if it's for 243 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: just a short period of time. I would love because 244 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: the UK culture. I just love it. 245 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: I love it. 246 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: I love getting around in me Manchester, United Jersey. I 247 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: felt like, you know, I felt like a young kid 248 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: kicking the soccer ball in the backyard. Yeah, I'm very excited. 249 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: I don't know where i'd live over there. London the 250 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: most expensive city on the world to live. 251 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: Apparently i'd move either Liverpool or Manchester. I love I 252 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: love the North of England. Yeah, I just love it, man. 253 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: I love the culture, I love the people, I love 254 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: the music, I love everything about it. I pined for 255 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: the North of England. 256 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: While we're running. 257 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: By the way, there's also missile toe, big toe or 258 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: tic tac on top of your toe that might work. 259 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: Are we still on that? 260 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Dad? Can I ask? Should I turn him down? 261 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: No? Happy. No, it's good two handed show, it's good. 262 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: Let him join in. Okay, Ashes we win, Ossie's win 263 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: three nil over England. A lot of people who have 264 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: been asking me to give a bit of fooedback. Why 265 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: aren't they called Great Britain like in the old days 266 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: with the Ashes tour. Well, the reason is that they 267 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: have to be called England because they revert to the 268 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: name Great Britain. They don't get funding from the English government. Yeah, 269 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: why why. 270 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: Is it called the Ashes? Is there a reason for that? 271 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: Well? Do you know the original reason for the Ashes 272 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: for cricket, don't you? Okay, So what it was? I 273 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: think it must have been not the first of a series. 274 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: What they did They burn at the Bales, Yeah, in 275 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: the first ever series and they put him into an 276 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: urn and that's what they're playing for the Ashes. Okay, right, 277 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: so we've just taken it off there. 278 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: I love because you know in the cricket the Ashes 279 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: trophy it's so small. 280 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 281 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: And you remember there was I think it was Tony 282 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: Jones they call Chompers and he's on the TV and 283 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: he was going, oh, he's going look at him over there, 284 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: the crick he's holding up the ashes and it's so 285 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: funny how something so small can be so impressive, and 286 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: his female co host goes, well, you know about that, Tony. 287 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: You remember that? 288 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: And then there was that there was another incident he 289 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: had with the same co host when he goes, they're 290 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: wrapping up like a news story and he goes, oh, 291 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: tell you what, this weekend forty degrees, you should come 292 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: around for a barbie, and she goes, no thanks, and 293 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: he goes, okay, some great He's so awkward. So back 294 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: in the day they used to have like like on 295 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: the news and like breakfast sort of TV. They just 296 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: have like great, like funny moments that would happen, like 297 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: I remember that guy who was just like they came 298 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: bounding over. 299 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: Dog Man. 300 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: And then there was one There was one of the 301 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: reporters who was at a lake one day and a 302 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: duck like thought he was threatening his babies, and it 303 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: just attacked him live on the end. The rooster, the 304 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: rooster that they're in like there might have been for 305 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: the Easter show and they're in the farmer section and 306 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: the rooster just started attacking him. 307 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I won't remember the guy over. There was 308 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: a burglary up in Queensland and they interviewed the bloke 309 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: and he goes yeah, and I came out right and 310 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: the yeah, good on your mate. You want to be 311 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: a hero, do you? 312 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: They're so good bring that back. 313 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: But three nil the Aussies won. Yeah, it was the series. 314 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: On a whole. 315 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: It really hurts me to say this because as a great, 316 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: fantastic three nil it's done. It's done a lot of 317 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: good things for the game over there, which is really important. 318 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: It could have been been a series the English had 319 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: just showed the divide between us, between US and the 320 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: and the English side, and and we never read our 321 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: very very best. I wanted it to be a really tight, 322 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: hard fought series. It wouldn't even worried me. It don't 323 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: sound un Australian if they didn't won, oh you know 324 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, because you have the booster to give 325 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: the game. But my second one was hoping that, like 326 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: the eighty two and eighty six ashes, that we went 327 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: over there and our players showcased actually how good that 328 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: side potentially you know we're going to be and you 329 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: know people that look and just go wow, like, I mean, 330 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: how good is that? But we never quite got going. 331 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: I think part of it to coop Jack is the 332 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: reason in the old Kangaroo Tours, you go over, you 333 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: play about five or six club games before you play 334 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: the first test, then five or six cloud game, so 335 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: you've got you've got a lot of game time together 336 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of time to form combinations where the 337 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: side really didn't getting up they didn't get a lot 338 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: of time to gel. 339 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: I think it, like you said, reflection on the England 340 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: team complay to Australia, but I think it's it's such 341 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: an indication of just where the soup like that competition 342 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: is at because that a lot of those ninety percent 343 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: of that team apart from Farnworth, Dom Young and Brimo 344 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: were people from the Super League and you could just see, 345 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: particularly with the attack, like the quality in the attack 346 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: and the footy IQ was so different because England, especially 347 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: Game two, they did a good job of like making 348 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: it ugly like it was always going to be like 349 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: if they could make it because they're really physical and 350 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: they could disrupt force a lot of error. They got 351 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: a lot of areas out of Tino in that game too, 352 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: because they're physical, they're strong and they can kind of 353 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: bring you down to their level and make it an ugly, 354 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: scrappy game. But with the footye, I think in three 355 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: games they scored only like two or three tries. They 356 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: just could not with the football, the quality of the attack, 357 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: the attention to detail and like the X factor. They 358 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: just didn't have what your likes of months to Harry, 359 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: Cleary and Walsh had. 360 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: A couple of the players that left out of the 361 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: squad Amaze meet. Now. I'm not sure whether it was 362 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: an injury, particularly with Maddie Nicholson. I'm not sure about that, 363 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: but two of the first forwards I would have picked 364 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: a fold Sean Wayne would have been Maddie Nicholson and 365 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: a young Blake who's a wig and young backrower at 366 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: junior in Noceumber. He is a very very special player. 367 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: On the app he maybe went off a little bit 368 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: as far as his form, but when we're in Vegas, 369 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I tipped to people, I said, mate, you watched this kid. 370 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: It's just a powerhouse. And I was amazed that neither 371 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: of those players were picked. As I said before, I 372 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: don't know whether there was a slight injury, but Nicholson, 373 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: up until when he got injured a magic round mate. 374 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: He was the best background the competition just outstanding player 375 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: Matt in Nicholson. 376 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe They've got so many good talented players 377 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: in England right who probably aren't getting noticed because the 378 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: competition does have as many eyes on it and it's 379 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: not as quality competition. But you see when some of 380 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: those players come to the NROL, they make a real 381 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: impact and they at like even when Johnny Bateman came over, 382 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: like the imput that they can make to an NRL team. 383 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: It's just about getting that same culture environment and competition, 384 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: particularly in the coaching ranks as well, Like the coaching 385 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: in Australia are so good, like it is so good 386 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: at the NRL level that if they can sort of 387 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: replicate a lot of that cultural stuff and take it 388 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: over to the Super League and improve that competition, I 389 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: think we'll see the Ashes become quality like it was 390 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: back in sort of eighties nineties. 391 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: In the nineties. Will keep just a little thing on 392 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: that which you may find interesting you and Jacob maybe not. 393 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: I find things interesting that surprise, surprise, no one does. 394 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: But if you look at the history of the English game, right, 395 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: and I think as told from Kangaroo Tours nineteen to 396 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: seventy eight we went over the Kangaroo Tour and it 397 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: was a really tough hard foot series. When we went 398 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: back over in eighty two, it blew that we blew 399 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: them out of the water. Now, the question is why 400 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: what happened? Now that four years in between Australian sport 401 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: we austra and ragularly went through a bit of a 402 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: revolution as far as diet, diet, nutrition, but also training, 403 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: skill work, fitness, all those things. But the other one 404 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: that happened in between that time, crucially with state of 405 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: origin football emerged and that took our rugby league, your 406 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: elop players to a completely level, another level or two up. 407 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: And so when we went over there these players and 408 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: made mind you we had a fair side. There was 409 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: a place like Steve Rodgers you wouldn't have seen played 410 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: who was made just a genius footballer. Malmoning Wally Lewis 411 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: in eighty two could not have made this starting lineup. 412 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: It was Stirling and Kenny. But that team when they 413 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: went over there, and this is what I'm talking about. 414 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: My wish was that side that went away could have 415 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: been it's on paper one of the greatest Australian touring sides. Now, 416 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: if they'd have really got going. On one hand, you're 417 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: looking going, oh mate, this is bad for England, We're 418 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: beaten them by forty points. But on the other hand, 419 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: I would have loved for the English public to sit 420 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: there and watch on the BBC and just gone, my god, 421 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: how good are these blokes? That would have been That's 422 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: a different kind of advertisement for the game, but a 423 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: great one. 424 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: The point you make there, I think a big part 425 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: of why, especially in these big representatives games you see 426 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: like Monster Cleary, Harry Reese Walsh, they go to the 427 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: next level. It'd be interesting to see the effect like 428 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: State of Origins had with these players they practiced. They 429 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: get three games a year on this huge stage against 430 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: the best players in that comp and they get to 431 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: practice at an intensity of a game that is unlike 432 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: you can get a replicate a Club Land yep. If 433 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: the Super League was able to replicate a State of 434 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: Origin s type thing like North England verse South England 435 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: where all the best players in that comp play against 436 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: each other for a three games series during the year, 437 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: I think you'd see a lot of improvement in those players, 438 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: like in the individual players that go there, because you're 439 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: being exposed to a really high level of football, and 440 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: I think you'd see a rapid improvement in those players. 441 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: They've tried before. They try to think called the War 442 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: of the Roses, which back historically, the War of the 443 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Roses was a war between Lancashire and Yorkshire. They tried 444 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: that over there. They tried a state of origin concept 445 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: with all the Lancashire players now Lancashire, or all the players 446 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: from Wigan and Saint Helen's and Warrington and so on, 447 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: and all the Yorkshire teams were like teams like Leeds 448 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: and Castleford and so on, and so that it just 449 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: never caught on. I never caught the imagination of the public, 450 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of the public over there were going, 451 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: why are our best Why are they our best players 452 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: playing against each other? 453 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 454 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. It never the concept never took 455 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: off that they should. But the more we go over 456 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: and the more they come out here, the better it 457 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: is for their game. But I thought individually some of 458 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: the performances Munster was two things about Monster. I thought 459 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: his performances are outstanding. Crucially for Munster, he's adjusting his 460 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: game as he gets older. He's had the hip and 461 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: growing problems. He doesn't have that, saying that he's lost 462 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: a meter a speed which happens when you get past 463 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: thirty anyone, and weighed on but he's he'll love that. 464 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: But he's adjusted his game. Mate, He's playing a lot 465 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: smarter game these days. He's kicking game was outstanding. And 466 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: the other thing I loved to about Munster. I was 467 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: watching nine News the other night and there was a 468 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: mother there and it breaks heart, a young mother with 469 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: her beautiful little son who was sitting in a whel 470 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: chair who had brain cancer. And Munster went straight over 471 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: and like you know, shook the kid, give the kid 472 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: a cuddle and his mum. Then Keon Kalama Tonguey went 473 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: over as well. Then all the team come over. I 474 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: just thought, there are some things that are more important 475 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: than football, and so well, Dounder the boys over there, 476 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: because my understanding they've been doing. They did things like 477 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: that all the way through the tour. Were very well received. 478 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: Unsurprisingly, Yeah, they looked like they enjoyed themselves over there 479 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: as well. Looks like they were having a good time. 480 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 2: But well, you said, Munster, you know what I think 481 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: was good for why Monster excelled in that environment as well, 482 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: because those the English team don't really wrestle that much. 483 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: Like they hit very hard. They're physical, but they don't 484 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: slow the play the ball down like most Australian teams 485 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: do and what Monsters used to. So you saw, like 486 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: you said you saw while she saw Monster, you saw 487 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: Harry playing out of his skin because they were getting 488 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: a lot of quick play the balls, like the attack 489 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: was so much quicker than they used to, which brings 490 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: Monster and those lads in it ree Whilsh was unbelievable 491 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: that try that he scored off the scrum in game three. 492 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: We just caught it. 493 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: Really wide, fifteen meters wide pass from Harry off the 494 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: scrum and then just goes left foot, left foot goes 495 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: over untaxed. 496 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: Well, the man who you watch, if you get back 497 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: and watch that right, what he does, he's so clever Ruse. 498 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: He'll sit opposite the bloke who's marked him like he's 499 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: target defender. He'll sit opposite him, and that defender whose 500 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: opposite is acutely aware of Reese's speed. And so when 501 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: the ball gets fired from the scrum from Nathan, you 502 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: watch he fades, he fades, and when up like defensively. 503 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Let people know you're supposed to go up dead straight, 504 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: bolt straight, and if he fades, he runs into another defender. 505 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: But Reese is so lightning quick that that defender loses 506 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: their nerve and actually starts chasing early, so that fade, 507 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: you watch him, he just goes check, check, and just 508 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: goes straight through. 509 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: They all over chase. They all have to come off 510 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: sideways because he's just too quick for him. 511 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: Other than what an ambassador to mate, oh mate, But 512 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: like the way he gave himself to the public. Yeah, 513 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: you know it's good on him and a. 514 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: Bloody, handsome young boy at that other big news in 515 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: rugby leagues chez ar DC. 516 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: And just one moment. You can't mention him because people 517 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: give it to you to event all the time. But 518 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: well do Harry. I think it's in between Harry Grant 519 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: and Monster for the Golden Boot Now I think Harry 520 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: is a dog. 521 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 4: Just quickly before we actually do change topic. While we're 522 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 4: in England at the moment, we haven't spoken too much 523 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: about the Ashes and about what's going on between the 524 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: NROL and the Super League. 525 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: It's going to get your. 526 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: Opinion cover what are your thoughts on the London Broncos, 527 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: the consortium that went over there getting bumped back. Do 528 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: you think it has something to do with the NRL 529 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: and the Super League maybe negotiating to get the deal done. 530 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, Jack, because it seems as though that 531 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: franchise is going to be a no brainer. That's a 532 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: strange one, you know, Jack, I'll tear what it might 533 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: be because there's a real split over there in the 534 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: rugby league. Half of the clubs are really cool for 535 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: the NRL to take over the other half ago and no, no, no, 536 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: we don't need the We don't need the Aussies, we 537 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: don't need the NRL. Let's just for Joe Path. I 538 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: wonder Jack, given the fact that London appeared to be 539 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: going to be almost like a bit of an Aussie club, 540 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, whether that was one of the reasons. 541 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: I was suspecting. Do you think if they're negotiating it 542 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 4: becomes a bit of murky If there's an Australian money 543 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: going towards a English side and then the Neral's looking 544 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: to buy the franchise as a part of a bigger deal, 545 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: does it become sort of like maybe the nroll in 546 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: that negotiation might be a bit of a bargaining chip 547 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 4: for for the English side. 548 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack, I don't know. It's a really precarious situation 549 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: at the moment. Shane Richardson, he's very good operator, Richo, 550 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: and he spent a lot of time in England with 551 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Gates hid Thunder excuse me emotional and then and then 552 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Hull Richo's gone, and Richo pushed forward over there from 553 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: the people he's got associates over there to say, guys, 554 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: shortened the competition, like I'm sorry, narrow, eliminate a few 555 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: of the teams, knock it downwards to an eight or 556 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: ten teen competition. Let the NRLL take over and things 557 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: will start to change. They've gone the other way. They've 558 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: expanded now, in my opinion, expansion. I think it was. 559 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: I think it's crazy for them at the moment because 560 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: they're going to look, they're struggling for depth already. Then 561 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: they've got another three or four sides that have come in, 562 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: and on top of that, we've got two sides coming. 563 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: In and I think even the like they're even struggling 564 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: with depth with the sides that they've got, and they've 565 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: got we've got a lot of talent and crop to 566 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: pick from where a super leg is struggling with depth 567 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: and talent right now. 568 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: And coops and you just know that P and G 569 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: and Perth are going to have there's a fair chance 570 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: Perth is going to have quite a number of English players. 571 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, yes, all right, DC to the rooster's finally 572 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: been announced. Obviously it was a deal that was probably 573 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: done verbally about six months ago, but it's only just 574 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: been announced. Thoughts on it, mate, I'm a big fan 575 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: of it. I think it's a good decision. I think 576 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: it definitely makes them a premiership threat short term. M 577 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: what happens we Hugo Savala, I don't know. I don't 578 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: know where he's going to go. If he wants to 579 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: sit behind him for a year or two, you could 580 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: probably get a start somewhere else, though he. 581 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: Could somewhere else, but could you know, not so much 582 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: to sit behind him, It would be sit alongside him. 583 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Like you know that three men walk three minutes? Yeah three? 584 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: You know, as we know it takes you need more 585 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: than just two sort of playmakers in that top seventeen. 586 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: So Hugo or one of them could push to assume 587 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: that fourteen roll. Hugo is going to learn and Sam 588 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: seim walking and learn a lot off DC, that's for sure. 589 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: And Hugo, the temptation for Hugo is to go, you know, 590 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: go mate, look I've proven myself, then you've got to 591 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: sign on this bloke. My advice to Hugo would be 592 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: just be patient. Mate, might bidy in new minutes and 593 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: all that, you know, but what it's going to do 594 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: in the long term is going to make you a 595 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: better footballer. 596 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how the dynameterter in him and 597 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: Sammy Walker works because Samuel Hawker's obviously played half back. 598 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: He's on the right side for his kicking and that's 599 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: his preferred side, but he'll probably have to move over 600 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: to the left to allow Cherry on his preferred right side. 601 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how that dynamic was. I think 602 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: it's kind of good because Sam's not like Sam Walker 603 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: probably works better off the cuff as just a pure 604 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: reactor and just you know, early kicks using his footwork 605 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: when he sees tied defenders, whereas Cherry can probably assume 606 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: more of that steering them around the park role. 607 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: But as you've said before, but Cherry's best attribute is 608 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: his spot. When you see that reactive role as well, 609 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: so you know it's going to be a real good 610 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: I'd say Trent Robinson, He's sitting out there going how 611 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: do I solve this equation? So I like to play 612 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: a sort of structured style of attack. But now my 613 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: two principal playmakers and organizers are brilliant ad lib reactive, 614 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: reactive players. So how are we going to work this? 615 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: You know, what are we going to do? It will 616 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: be intriguing. 617 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: I'd like to see it. 618 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I think the change, I think the change in how 619 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: they may go about their football. I think it would 620 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: be really good for the Roosters. 621 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got James Tedesco, who's probably one of 622 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: the best ad lib footy players ever, quick play, that 623 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: just gets it and does his own things. So I'm 624 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: keen to see how those three work together. Cherry's played 625 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: a lot of footy with Teddy. This is actually I 626 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: caught up with Cherry during the week. Holy shit, he's 627 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: going to have the earliest preseason date that he's ever had. 628 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: I think he was about late November's. I think he's 629 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: kicking off. But he's a bloke that hasn't really, He's 630 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: done so many NRLD preseasons at mainly he hasn't been 631 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: back in November, probably since he was nineteen twenty years old. 632 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: I reckon and exciting for him. Mate, He's going to 633 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: walk into a brand new schoolyard he's established at Manly. 634 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: He walks in there. Everyone knows what Cherry's about. But 635 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: now he walks in, it doesn't matter. You know, people 636 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: will go, oh, you know, he's got nothing to prove. 637 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: Any person who walks into a new club, whether it's 638 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: Diego Maradona, Andrew John's, Dally Tree Evans, they all feel 639 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: they've got something to prove to their teammates. And that's 640 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: exciting for him. 641 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a little bit like I don't know 642 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: what to expect. He was like the unknown of this 643 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: new Like I've never been to another club before. Like 644 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: so this new program, new gym pro like all these 645 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: different running techniques, Like there's so much, there's a whole 646 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: playbook he's got to learn as a halfback. 647 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'll be your very best coop no matter 648 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: what it is. You need nerves, you need that apprehension, 649 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: that feeling, you got that little bit of fear and 650 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: that's what's going to give him this change. Walking into 651 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: that first daid of training, his guts will be rumbling. 652 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: It'd be like he's rookie again walking back into Manley and. 653 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: Little Ryan poopench Mounts and Ryan Papenhausen. Little Pappy has 654 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: immediately left the storm. There's the rumors of Rugby three 655 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: sixty after the next year when they start. I think 656 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: they start November twenty twenty six was when that competition starts, 657 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of time in between. But he's 658 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: taken time off to just think about what he's going 659 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: to do. I mean me personally, no one perhaps knowing. 660 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: What he's like. 661 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: It actually wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't go to 662 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: Rugby three sixty, he doesn't play any of it. 663 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: Just wouldn't spruce. 664 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: If he just goes pulls a play, would not surprise 665 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: me at all. 666 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: He seems to me be a kid that as far 667 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: as on the peaking order of life rugby league s 668 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: it's about four or five. 669 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: He's got so much going on. He's smart, like he 670 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: knows his bloody like business and stock markets really well. 671 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: So I think in sex too. Yeah, back in the 672 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: day they'll stick in sex breeding. But I think he's Yeah, 673 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: I think he's keen to have success post football in 674 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: whatever he wants to do as well. So it wouldn't 675 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: shock me if that. I mean, he's quite young still 676 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: and he's still got a lot to offer. Would be 677 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: good to see him, potentially if he wants to go 678 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: to Rubby three sixty, be good to still see the 679 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: flying mallets still run around. 680 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: What are the boys saying that? Do they think he's 681 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: going to three sixty? 682 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: They don't know. They actually don't know. No one's really 683 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: Everyone's kind of like like, I don't know what he's 684 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: gonna do, But everyone sort of said the same thing, 685 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: like knowing peraps, you actually don't know what he's going 686 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: to do. Like usually you can make a guess and 687 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: it's quite easy, you know, like with chairs it was 688 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: quite easy to know knowing chairs, know he's still had 689 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: something to give that he was going to play on, 690 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: like he wasn't going to give it up, but with 691 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: perhaps quite unpredictable. Like I sit there and I was 692 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: thinking about it, and I go, I I wouldn't not 693 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: show me if he just goes. You know, I've had 694 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: I've had fun playing foot I've went a Clive Church, 695 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: I want a premiership. I've played over one hundred games. 696 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: Now I'm keen to do something else. 697 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: If it was to say to you Cooper that you'll 698 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: never ever talk to Ryan Pappenhausen again, like basically in 699 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: your life, he'll just disappear out of you, would that 700 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: surprise you, Uh? Not really. 701 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: I'd hope he doesn't just disappear because I like Paps. Yeah, 702 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: But he he is quite like an introvert and does 703 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: his own thing off the field. Like there was some 704 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: I remember there was a year there, but he'd had 705 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: a couple of head knocks at this stage. But like 706 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 2: we didn't even see perhaps for like four months, and 707 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 2: he was just kind of went and did his own thing, 708 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: did a lot of reading, had to have a lot 709 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: of blueberries for his brain because they're really good, Like 710 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: he was doing concussion stuff. So he just kind of 711 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: removed himself from like everyone and just did his own thing. 712 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: He's very He's not the kind of guy that would 713 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: just text you on the day off and be like 714 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: let's go do this, Let's go to this. Where most 715 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: of the boys are like that. He's quite a different 716 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: mold of rugby league player. But there's so many different 717 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: personalities and types and of rugby league club that's what 718 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: makes it up. But yeah, he is quite different in 719 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: that sense. 720 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: And on that note, just but my memory about like 721 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: head knocks put in a big cheered out to elikto. 722 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was. 723 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: Terrifying, man, Yeah, that was sickening what happened. Just man. 724 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: That was when when I was sitting he was sitting 725 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: on the bench and I looked and I said, the 726 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: true true you could to kind of look to see 727 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: this when you're sitting there and you see Oh man, 728 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: it was. It was frightening. 729 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 730 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: I look, I don't know the ins and outs of 731 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: the whole doctor protocol or that. I don't want to 732 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: question went on that. But when I saw that, I 733 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: didn't actually watch the game that tongue in game, but 734 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: when I saw Lehigh knock him head class there and 735 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: knock him out in the warm up, I thought geez 736 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: Ellies was out of the game before the game started. 737 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: And then when I heard what had happened after, I 738 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: was shocked that he played the game. Seeing the footage 739 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: that I saw, I was so shocked and I was 740 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: like he in my opinion, like I've seen a lot 741 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: of headaches. I'm no doctor, though I don't know what 742 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: test they did, but when I saw it, he should 743 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: not have gone out there, just from my opinion. But 744 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm no, I'm no doctor. You're not a doctor, no, no, no, 745 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: although I am a doctor of rugby league to go 746 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: his game off. 747 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: All bloody look. Yeah, I'm looking to second guess the 748 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: doctors and all the things that went on. We just 749 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: wish him all the very best because maybe it was 750 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: it was that was incredibly scary, And I think about 751 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: his parents sitting there game like watching. I imagine I 752 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: don't know that he actually played. The worries he feeling 753 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: may have been there, but I hope they were, because 754 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: to watch from afar, that must have been your worst nightmare. 755 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: The other one is paying housekeeps talk about isn't hasn't 756 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: like he was. He was mooded before that. They were 757 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: looking at him, but suddenly out of the blue, they're 758 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: saying they're offering him three million dollars a year, three six. Yeah, 759 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: and that the way it's been spoken about, a fat 760 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: com pleae. He's going to go sheeus. I hope not. 761 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: I hope not, because I feel like he's still got 762 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: so much a given regularly. I know he's, but Jesus 763 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: has done a lot for a bloke. He's the same 764 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: age as me, he's twenty six, and Pain has now 765 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: done everything in the game origin now on a Grand 766 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: final like he's he has got much left to prove, 767 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: like and seeing what he's I could definitely see him 768 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: going and playing in that rugby three like R three 769 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: sixty over? And I think, are they going to be 770 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 2: based out of Dubai coops? 771 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: Well, now you get to pick your address. Oh so 772 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: you still think? I just I don't know. I'm looking 773 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: at it, like obviously there's a lot going on behind, 774 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: Like they don't tell the public everything, but they're going 775 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: to the franchises, franchises in Dubai Toky, London, London, Paris, Miami. 776 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: I was just going right, and they're saying they've got 777 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: a TV deal with YouTube. You know what I heard? 778 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: You know what I heard. I don't know what I 779 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: heard the other day, right, so this is now, Look, listeners, 780 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: all of our little back fences listening all right. I 781 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: just wanted to be knowing I am not like what 782 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: I say. I know a lot of you listen to 783 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: what I say, and you two did his gospel. But 784 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: I am not God, but this is what I inside herd. 785 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: So this is a revelation you've just said before not 786 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: a doctor. No, No, that blew me away straight away 787 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: because you put me in those antibiotics just before. And 788 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: secondly depositories and you tewish are the ones that go 789 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: in your ass? Yeah, that's what's the pository and you 790 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: put it on the shelf. That's what they say. 791 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: That's what Shanda used to say. You poke it in 792 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: like you're at the post office and you know, you 793 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: put it in the thing go like that like you 794 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: know how the old post So you feel the suction 795 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: because we used to do it the silver bullet and 796 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: we would put it in and then Shandos said, you 797 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: just curl your index finger and just pop it on 798 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: the shelf to the left and then you'll feel the 799 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 2: and they just take it off. Wow, straight into the gart. 800 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: I'll give that a gar. What was the point Cooper's 801 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: not a doctor and the other one was said, he's 802 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: not God. What was I about to say? 803 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry, someone tipped me off saying that R 804 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: three sixty. They actually haven't got the funding for it yet, right, 805 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: So what they're doing is they're looking to sign all 806 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: these big names and then once they've got the big names, 807 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: they're hoping to get the funding and then it will 808 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: go ahead if they can get the funding. So what 809 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: could potentially happen is like, this is just what I'm 810 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: hearing allegedly. Let me throw that in there. But if 811 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: they have all these sign all these big name players, 812 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: the competition could still fall through in six months because 813 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: they don't get the proper funding needed to do the 814 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: whole competition. So I don't know how true that is. 815 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: That's just what an insider told me the other day 816 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: on the street, but he was homeless, so I don't know. 817 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 4: Again too, But like they'd have to negotiate the TV 818 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 4: deal and that would have to be like that would 819 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 4: dictate most of the money. 820 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: Now think so, But you're. 821 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: Saying that they might be right. They might be reversing 822 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: reverse engineering it. Let's get the players, let's get the 823 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: star power. Then we'll take it to the broadcasting, to 824 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: the sponsors after that. But that's a big risk. 825 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big risk. 826 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: And the other thing about it, Coopses and Jack is 827 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: that sport is support is at his tribal and it's 828 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: purest form. It is tribal. And I'm looking and going, okay, 829 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: so this team in Miami, there's a team and take 830 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: you there's a team in Dubai. 831 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: Like I just go as it too international, it's too broad. 832 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: Even when Liverpool were winning Champions League, the thing that 833 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: really stuck in their craws was the fact that they 834 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: hadn't won a Premier League title or a league title 835 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: for such a long time. And even though they won 836 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: Champions leagues like you know, AC Milan and the top 837 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,479 Speaker 1: clubs for European glory, for them it was secondary because 838 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: they hadn't you know, it was a bittersweet because they 839 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: hadn't won the league. That's an example how the purest 840 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: form of sport is tribal. 841 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: Their competitiveness like New Soos, Queensland are states that really 842 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: kind of don't like it. Tell that even outside of 843 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 2: State of Orange. 844 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: Let's look at some of the big cities around the world. Right, 845 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: so you've got let's go Glasgow Celtic versus Glasgow Rangers, 846 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: Fenerba versus Galatas. Right in this dambul all these ac 847 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: Milan into Milan Manchester night of Manchester City, Munich versus 848 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: Player Munich versus Bruce Adortment a little bit further away. 849 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: But you know, in sport and and in and if 850 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: you like, and the best one in rugby league, the 851 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: biggest derby and rugby league is South Sidney rabbit Os 852 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: versus Sidney Easterns Roosters, or in England Whole kr versus 853 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: Hull Orson Helen's versus Wigan. They just sit alongside each other. 854 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 4: That's the like, that's the one like you can you 855 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 4: make die hard fans by like through just people because 856 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 4: unless they get Taylor Swift, I can't see that happening too. 857 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: Swift as playing well, she's a bit of a cult herself. 858 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 4: Like if I'd say they signed Taylor Swift, I reckon 859 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 4: there's a fair chance they'd have quite the following. Whatever 860 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 4: team she signs for, what position would she play that? 861 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: Anyway? 862 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: Sorry there, Jack, Jack's really really when he Jack chimes 863 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: in today, really very random, very very random. 864 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: I like it. Random. Jack's a good Jack. 865 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we're gett into the back end of 866 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: the year, so happy, happy to allow that. 867 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 3: I'm about to go to Thailand. So I'm hitting the yeah, yeah, 868 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: I'm hitting the backstraps. I'm looking for Uncle Ricos thinking 869 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 3: about that. 870 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that our man in white Latus letting it have 871 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: been railed. Who are going over there? Still the greatest movie? 872 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 2: Going there on your own? 873 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 4: No, I'm taking gem there. You're missing out on Thailand 874 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 4: just for eight days and then we'll be back and 875 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: back following in to for the rest of the year. 876 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 3: Mate. 877 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: As I said before, Jack, go to Bangkok, go to 878 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: the Chinatown of Bangkok. It is insane. You know, it's 879 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: the greatest. 880 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: Experiencecause I'm going to be home home stallone because you 881 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: guys are all going to be out and there might 882 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: be a little bit of a shindig being thrown. I'm jealous, 883 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 2: you know. 884 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: Anyway, that's good stuff. 885 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 2: Sorry, did I have to do? We have anything else? 886 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: All I want to say is this. In recording this, 887 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: we're about to go upstairs. We're going to watch the 888 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: Pacific Champion. Oh yeah, okay, So if we're not, we're not. 889 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: Haven't been speaking about that directly because we haven't seen 890 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: it yet for reasons which we will not disclose. Yeah, 891 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: we had to do the podcast early, but what. 892 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 2: Reason was that. 893 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, I don't know what the reason is. 894 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 3: Can you go ahead and tell us? 895 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 2: Do you have a reason? 896 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: Rhymes pokys? 897 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: What rhymes with that? 898 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: Stoky? I don't know, No, no, no, I've just got 899 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: some stuff. 900 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 2: You know what's good. We've got cheese. Brandon Smith, he's upstairs. 901 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: He's playing like that's why we duck down here. So 902 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: sheal nice to get away from him for a bit 903 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: because he's got that much energy at the moment, talking 904 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: me years off. But he's up there playing monopoly with Tree. 905 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,479 Speaker 1: He looks good brand. 906 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: He's up there playing monopoly with Trish Trush, Oh my god. 907 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: And I can think of nothing worse than playing ball 908 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: games for you, Tresh. 909 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh mate, borders in not be a B A B 910 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: going b O A R D. It's b O R 911 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: E D. You got bored? 912 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're off today? 913 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: What a way to finish your off today? 914 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? 915 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: Just I'm still buzzing for Oasis. 916 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: You're still buzzing climax early inside. 917 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: You're the underclass. Okay, yeah, okay. 918 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 4: One