1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Good a super Coaches strap in. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Official AFL Super Coach Podcast. You're in now, guy. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: That the greatest game on this big blue marble we 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: call the planet Earth. Gentlemen, it is AFL super Coach. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: Round twenty two is in the bag. We're looking forward 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: to a massive, massive Round twenty three. I'm your host, 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: James Clement's joining me today. We've got three of the 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: greatest minds on the planet as well well, Super Coach Mines. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Let's just be very very honest. Come on to super 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Coach over there. That's the stats guy. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: He's back. 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: I'm back, very good to be back on the show. 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: I'd definitely rather be talking super Coach than North Melbourne 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 4: on the AFL Today Show, so happy to talk super Coach. 15 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: In between us is Al Payton, the guru exs James. 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 5: Nice to have you back. Yeah, looking nice and tanned 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 5: after your time out. 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: I've got a stunning turn this ginger tin. I'll tell 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: you what They've got way more freckles and we are 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: bringing you on. Very good friend of the program, mister 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Mentality himself, Pig Mentality from Doctor super Coach talking all 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: things Captains. It is a really, really really fun chat. Al, 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: we hit on a lot of different things, a lot 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: of different approaches for how captains had chosen, who he 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: looks at, what he's looking at, some of his hits 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: from this year, all that sort of good stuff. It 27 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: is really, really, really fun. So you better stick around 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: for that. Course that's gotta be weird and basher. But 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: this is of course probably proudly brought to you by 30 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: the super Coach. Plus go check that out for all 31 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: your projections, your break evans, and just get out there 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: and dominate. 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: You've only got a couple of weeks left. 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: You better be all around that super Coach for most 35 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: of the leagues, isn't It's as week absolutely crucial for 36 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: your finals. Just to make sure that you smashing your mates. 37 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap round twenty two very quickly, your 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: heroes and villains. 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: It'd a shocking week. 40 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: So in a surprise twist, obviously, we had some incredible 41 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: scores this week, Al and like two. 42 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 5: Nine hundred wizard number one score of the week and 43 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 5: is unbelievable. 44 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: That is an absolutely incredible score. And I was looking 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: at my why does her mine look like that? 46 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: What the grill? 47 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: What the hell is the grill like, that's. 48 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 5: How bad mine was. It was so bad. So I 49 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: have a couple of heroes though, because Gordon did pop off. 50 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm an idiot, never ever underestimate my ability 51 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: to be just moron. I think we talked this out 52 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: maybe towards the end of our AFL show last week, right, 53 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Vice, Captain, Captain, I'm feeling Gornicas, He's 54 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: going to go bang, It's going to be awesome. And 55 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: then of course day of changes to calyps Aron, so 56 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: one fourteen versus one seventy. 57 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: Seven, Break my Heart. 58 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Horn did at least get the one seventy seven and 59 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Jason Horn Francis, Oh, yeah, the pod he's my. 60 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 5: I think he might just be a year early on him. 61 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: This might be this might be my problem. I'm just 62 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit early one forty one. 63 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: This weekend he was fantastic, And of course Zach Butter's 64 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: but my villains. I'm rife with villains. I'm like a 65 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: superhero movie. There's villains everywhere. It's like one of those 66 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: bad team up movies. We were like, oh, we've got 67 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: to get more than one villain. 68 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: There's three of them. You're like, I've got seven. 69 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: Tom Stewart sucked, Nick Deakos sucked. 70 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Sam Wash, what happened? 71 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: You're getting plenty of the you just stinking it up, though, Sammy. 72 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: Eric Errol whoa good and he had eighty That was shocking. 73 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: Clary steel side Bottom tak he cooked. 74 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, got thirty eight from Oliver, seventeen from Kurno before 75 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: he went off injured, and only eighty one from Luke Jackson, 76 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: which I know was like a little As soon as 77 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: Sean Darcy's out, He's like, oh, you could just maybe 78 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: slap the VC on him. See what happens? Nothing I 79 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: got already use my VC. 80 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: But still, yeah, almost he's rolling on the brink and 81 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 5: I'm almost hoping he doesn't get DVP next year so 82 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 5: we can't pick him because he's. 83 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: Picking him next year too tempting. 84 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: So I ended up with twenty two ten. It was horrifying, 85 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: such a bad score. How about Ustat's Boy? 86 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 87 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: What did I end up on? 88 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: Twenty three thirty four? Really disappointed? After some really good weeks, 89 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: So the last month I've been really happy and then 90 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: I come on the show enough to say my bad score. 91 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: But anyway, my villain. I'm just going to go one 92 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: out was definitely Tim English. 93 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: I was filthy with him. Eighty five. 94 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: He hasn't had back to back hundred since round twelve, 95 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: which I think I got him in about round fourteen 96 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: or something like that around fifteen when he saw a 97 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: price came a bit down. I so I know that 98 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: I've picked him Grundy and English at the moment, so 99 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: that can be my two villains. 100 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: Actually just my rucks. Eighty four and eighty five. 101 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: That is usually your rucks, as we are going to 102 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: talk about later with the pig mentality. Usually you can 103 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: back on the rucks again big scores, but not my 104 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: rucks at the moment. So they're my villains. And then 105 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: my hero, Isaac Keeney. He was just amazing, obviously dominating 106 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: in the last quarter, which we touched on on the 107 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: AFL Today show forty in disposals, three clearances and a 108 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: goal in the last quarter to get one forty four. 109 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: He's definitely my hero, and I think he's back. I 110 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: think he's going to get some consistent scores from the 111 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: rest of the year. 112 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: I even left out Joe Colder and my villains as well. Yeah, yeah, 113 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: fifty five. 114 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yes, twenty five hundred and sixty eight for me, 115 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: So pretty happy with that jump back above the fantom. 116 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 5: We've been lead frogging each other each week, so that 117 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 5: was pretty good. Five hundred and eleven in the rank, 118 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: So dreaming of that top five hundred finish still alive. 119 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 5: But we've touched a little bit on Kerno. We'll talk 120 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: more about him soon, but that if he doesn't play 121 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 5: this week, and it could be looking at a doughnut, 122 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: so that might put an end to those dreams, but 123 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 5: we'll monitor that during the week. Obviously, I used my 124 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 5: last trade going into this round. Been hanging on to 125 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 5: Zach Fisher all this time. I'm hoping he'd come back, 126 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 5: wasn't picked again, and then Billy Dowling got dropped to 127 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 5: have been using his cover so it would have had 128 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 5: a zero. So I traded in Isaac Rankin and he 129 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: was okay, seventy six, so yeah, I mean I would 130 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: take that. The other guy I was looking at coolwell, 131 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: so I'm glad I didn't pick you, And the fandom 132 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: was trying to talk me into Jamara Guglehagen and he 133 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: started really well but had thirty points after about five 134 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 5: minutes and I thought, I know I've missed the body, 135 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 5: but he finished on about fifty so I think Rankin 136 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 5: was the right call. Hopefully he gets some decent numbers 137 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: in the next couple of rounds. In terms of my hero, 138 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: Honorable Wrench honorable mentions to the Freo defenders Luke Ryan 139 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: and Jordan Clark's been a great pick for me. But 140 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: they were back absolutely pigging out like they were earlier 141 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 5: in the year. One fifty six from Ryan, one thirty 142 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 5: eight from. 143 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: Clark's because they were just kicking it back and forth. 144 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: That's what we love. 145 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: I love that. 146 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: If you're a Freo fan, I don't know how impressed 147 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: you'd be, but for super absolute gold. But my hero 148 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 5: has to be Tristan Cherry. I should have got him 149 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 5: when Gorn got injured, I traded in Nank and then 150 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 5: Nank got can Cass, which was really painful that week, 151 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 5: but then finally made the right move and got Cherry 152 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 5: and he's been unbelievable the last three weeks and now 153 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: the number one scoring ruck in Supercoach is projected to 154 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 5: be over seven hundred thousand dollars Graz this week, after 155 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: starting at about four hundred k, so if you picked 156 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 5: him at the start of the year, just absolutely incredible. 157 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 5: He's a number one player in the AFL for tackles 158 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 5: since round seventeen, so that's where it's getting a heap 159 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: of his points. Love him, you would as an all fan, Yeah, 160 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: I mean Australian Goldie playing in the VFL for yeah 161 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 5: at the start. 162 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: I think I said this on the other show today. 163 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 4: I was in well Everyone All northound, like, oh, should 164 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: we really get rid of Goldie's still all right, Cherry's 165 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: still going to work through his issues in the ruck 166 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: and then he just turned into the best ruck in 167 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 4: the concert. 168 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: I'm happy. 169 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been awesome. All Australian question Manes, Yeah, yeah, 170 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 5: definite question. But a couple of quick villains you've touched 171 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 5: on already terrible. Bailey Dale was shocking. I forgot he 172 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: was even in that game. I was watching the Bond 173 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 5: watching ranking and then I was scrolling all the way 174 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 5: down and there's bailey Dale and forty five. 175 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: That was terrible. 176 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 5: But the one who's really driving me a bit crazy 177 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 5: is locking Neil. Just because I spent a heap of money. 178 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 5: I think he was six hundred and seventy thousand. Four 179 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 5: weeks ago, I traded people. We've watched the show year 180 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: know how much matt Row was driving me nuts. So 181 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: finally got rid of him, spent about two hundred and 182 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 5: fifty thousand to trade him up to Locky Neil, who 183 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: was averaging aboute hundred and fifty at that point. And 184 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 5: since then, in four weeks, Neil has scored two more 185 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 5: points than matt Ralo. Really, so it's about one hundred 186 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: and thirty grand per point or so I think. 187 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: So that's brutal. Yeah, that's tough. 188 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 5: So another eighty seven on the weekend kept another tag, 189 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 5: which I sort of knew was coming. But yeah, hopefully 190 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: he's no more tags for the next couple of rounds, hopefully, 191 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: and you can get back to that forty one sort 192 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 5: of fifty scoring for me. 193 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Turn fifty grand. I'm looking for two points. I'm not 194 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: going to take financially avice jeez shoes. But I mean 195 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: this like we sort of hit on this with pig 196 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: mentality as well, like buying in on Primos when they've 197 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: sort of hit almost top price. 198 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: It's one thing that you get to sort of like 199 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: have in the back of your brain that still done there. 200 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I sort of knew that he wouldn't 201 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 5: keep up that level, and I sort of thought at 202 00:07:59,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: the end of the year and he had one of 203 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: who trades left and I had the money, so you know, 204 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: you may as well spend it. But even then it 205 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 5: probably would have been better looking for someone a bit cheaper. 206 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully rips off one hundred and eighty for you. 207 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: This week, all right, let's do some supercoachon news, injury, 208 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: suspensions gear. Obviously, the big one is Charlie Kurno. The 209 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: ankle that he rolled against the Hawks on the weekend 210 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: a kind of sank the Blues finals chances perhaps, which 211 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: hurts my heart. On top of that, if you own 212 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: him in Super Coach, which a lot of people do, 213 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: this is the worst possible time out because they play 214 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: the West Coast Eagles this. 215 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: Week and I don't know, does Curno have a pretty 216 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: good track rend? 217 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 218 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: Yes, he smashing the Eagles to basically win himself at 219 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 6: Coleman and so for him to be out at this 220 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 6: exact moment in time is brutal on at least a 221 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 6: few fronts, and we're still waiting news on how bad 222 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 6: it was. 223 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: So there's nothing out there. 224 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: He does play there. 225 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 5: They just lost it after the game that you know, 226 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 5: this is just something we're going to have to manage. 227 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: He's been carrying it for a couple of weeks, so 228 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: it wasn't instantly saying he's gone for the rest of 229 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 5: the year or anything like that. So still a chance 230 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 5: he gets up. And as you say, this is the 231 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 5: game that a lot of us traded him in for. 232 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 5: Really scored one hundred and eighty twice basically against the 233 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: Eagles last year. So fingers cross he gets up because 234 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: as I said, no more trades and maybe Billy Dowling 235 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: unless he comes back in but after the Crows win, 236 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 5: probably unlikely not Yeah, could be caught short when a 237 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: lot of people will be in a similar position. 238 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: It's needs sure manner to file one more time another 239 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: Charlie koern I was owned by thirty four hundred and 240 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: fourteen coaches at the moment. 241 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: So if you do have trades like that'll be like. 242 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: The one sort of last month, like I've still got 243 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: one in the gun and it's sort of like it 244 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: might be Charlie, but I guess, you know, I get 245 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: to sit on it for the rest of the week 246 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: basically until we find out more teams. But geez, inopportune 247 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: now inopportune, Adam start also, look, he has been a. 248 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: Super coach favorite across the years. 249 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: Here and there is like a bit of a pod 250 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 2: for your defensive nouse draft as well a people. My 251 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: draft is very handy too, Hammy, just another one of 252 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: those Carlton hammies. 253 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: Geez, oh god. 254 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: In terms of his our look, basically that's his season 255 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: done and probably even if you know Covin probably have 256 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: to make the Grand Final. But this hurts my heart 257 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: because we don't get. 258 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: To hear the wolf the rest of the way. But 259 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't know in terms of his super coach impact, 260 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: what do you reckon? 261 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 5: I don't think he's in a heap of teams, but 262 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 5: I know Tim Mitchell one point a couple of weeks ago. 263 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 5: It's really for. 264 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Tim Tim Mitchell put the moss on him. 265 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has cursed a few plays. 266 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 5: But yeah and Gavin as well. So yeah, it wasn't 267 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 5: wasn't a fun day for him yesterday. 268 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: Very brutal outside is Harry Chesel. This is a test 269 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: on the ankle, isn't it. 270 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked it looked bad. 271 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: I was watching the game and as anse, but I'm 272 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 4: very worried because the whole game he was just hobbling 273 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 4: and then they played him forward for a quarner. 274 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: Then we're like, oh wait, Eagles coming back, We'll put 275 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: him back in the midfield. 276 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: So he's still got a really good score of one 277 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: twenty two I think, but I don't see him playing 278 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: this week. I feel like he might be out North. 279 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: We don't have anything to play for and he looked 280 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 4: really bad. I don't want anything bad to happen. Harry Cheesey, 281 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: he is God of North Malbourne. 282 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 5: So yeah, that'll be massive for most owned player in 283 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 5: Super Coach. So I mean training all week, he's always 284 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 5: you know, Zach Fisher for a while and then we 285 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: don't have to worry about him so much anymore. But 286 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 5: Kube mckirch theres always seems to be an injury cloud 287 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 5: over him and now she's as well. 288 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's not good, but huge watch we don't 289 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: know yet. 290 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: That is brutal. 291 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 5: You need to get down there with like cotton wool 292 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: and just like go I will wrap him up. 293 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: All supporters will up, but not for Super Coach. 294 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: That's boy. 295 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, true the ankles at this time of year, it's 296 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: like an absolute right lucky Whitfield as well, like reports 297 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: of an ankle tweeting him too and kids. 298 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 5: He said he might have got it stood on during 299 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 5: the game, so he played out the match, so hopefully okay, 300 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, another one to watch what Philip who he 301 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: was laid out because that was brutal for a lot 302 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 5: of people who have him. But yeah, just an illness, 303 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 5: so hopefully you think he'd be you'd be right to 304 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: go next week. 305 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: Sean Darcy. I mean this didn't ideally that helps you 306 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: Luke Jackson, and it just didn't really affect it all, 307 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter. 308 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 5: But yeah, Nie Saunus apparently, and again long we were 309 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 5: saying there'll be something we'll manage. I think they had 310 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: a six day break, so I'm not sure what the 311 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 5: break is for next week, but yeah, they'll be just 312 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 5: sort of managing him through the rest of the year. 313 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: So maybe it means Jackson gets a bit more time 314 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 5: in the ruck. But yeah, as you said, he was 315 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 5: rocking Patrick Voss in the last quarter, which I thought 316 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 5: was just trolling super coaches just under miss so ye, 317 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going to make any difference 318 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 5: to JACKO. 319 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: I like that. 320 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: We need to send someone to one of the press 321 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: commers ago justin what were we doing? Come on, think 322 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: of the super coaches. They do the early game Saturday 323 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: against GWS this week, so. 324 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: Let me interesting to see if you're still fair? 325 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: Should be all right on the plane get over there, 326 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: so here we goes it doesn't I've played on a 327 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: medical doctor and will Day was subbed out in the third. 328 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: Quarter with cramps, so that was smashing them. 329 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: They were killing him. 330 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: I think that's just a tough call for a couple 331 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 5: of people over in the lair in Phantoms World in 332 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: South Australia picked up will Day is a nice pot 333 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 5: a few weeks ago and he has been scoring pretty 334 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 5: well but got tagged last week and then I think 335 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 5: only had thirty something points this week and got subbed out, 336 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 5: so that could have ended a few finals campaigns. 337 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Nice one, all right. 338 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: One of the biggest talking points after round twenty two 339 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Number one Charlie Kerno, how do thirty four thousand coaches 340 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: replace him. 341 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: If he's out? 342 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: If he is out, of course I still do have 343 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: Sean Manor from Heaven on my bench, so I don't 344 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: have to, but at the same time I don't. I 345 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: think I actually may have to because I think Manor 346 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: is now going to be like cover for another injury 347 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: that I had. So Colonel my vibe and I'm going 348 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: to hit on this later for my Monday Moves. Harry 349 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: McKay question Mark. 350 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: Let's go. 351 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: He should get more touches. 352 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: But if I can't, going to get the ball down 353 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: there enough against against West Coast. 354 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Here Charlie had one hundred and eighty six, one hundred 355 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: and seventy eight against West Coast last year. 356 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at one of those games. It was beautiful. 357 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Now, even if he final it has one leg, just 358 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: WILLI the goals not bad the way he's been playing though, 359 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: probably just going to say, I mean, that's the thing. 360 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 5: We scored thirty three the week before and then seventeen 361 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: forty five points or something in two weeks. 362 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: By Calen MIT's just bombing it over his head. 363 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: The trade options out James Peeling, that's an interesting one. 364 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: He's had a pretty handy four week run ninety three 365 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three, ninety six one hundred. 366 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like him mid forward. The issue has just 367 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 5: been that he's been the sub a few times. I 368 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 5: think he scored before this four week bracket. He scored 369 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 5: thirteen the week before that. Because he has been used 370 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: as a sub a few times. But it seems like 371 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 5: he's got a safe place in the team now hopefully 372 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: and yeah, scoring pretty well, so I only need sort 373 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 5: of twenty k to get to him from Kerno. Another 374 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 5: Carlton player that seems to be the most popular option 375 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: at this stage is Matt Kennedy. He's scored undred nineteen 376 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 5: on the weekend. He's only three thousand more expensive than Kerno. 377 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: What do you think of his prospects? 378 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think they're they're being forced to use him 379 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: a lot more. There was, like, to be honest, my 380 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: entire vibe. I'm like where Calvin or just went wrong 381 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: in the middle of the years when they're throwing like 382 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: George Hilda as the sub, Kennedy's still playing like a 383 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: bong knee and it all sort of just got a 384 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: bit wonky on them. But now they've just been forced 385 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: with Cherr being out with him, we'll get more of 386 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: the ball. He's basically just having to play like their 387 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: third midfielder. So I actually really really like that Kennedy. Look, 388 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: because he's going to get plenty of the pill They've 389 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: got West Coast, they've got some Kilder. He'll be wildly 390 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: important to that Carlton team for the run home. So 391 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: at that price point, I kind of love it because 392 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: he's all they've got left. 393 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Question. 394 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't mind it a lot. Tom Powell. 395 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: I love a bit of Tom Powell. He's had a 396 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: middle that middle period. Everyone probably brought him in. I 397 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: didn't bring him in. I was I didn't have enough 398 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: money for him, I think at the time. But that 399 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: middle period everything, Oh he's just dropped off, but he's back. 400 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 4: But he had one oh one, one five, one, twenty 401 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: three been really good. I don't mind that one more 402 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: twenty five. He's had a better average than a lot 403 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: of other guys that have people have brought in. So 404 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: don't mind a bit of Tom Pound. 405 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: Also Jamara hugle Haagen, as you mentioned, Al started off 406 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: like great guns and then just like the rest of 407 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: the Bulldogs in that game. 408 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's last month has been really good. But yeah, 409 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: I mean it's just so hard to predict, Like the 410 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 5: Dogs were so hot and then they put out a 411 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 5: performance like that. So I mean, obviously he relies on 412 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: the supply coming in. 413 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 414 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they played it the Adelaide Oval. 415 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: How to play that Sam Draper is for sixty eight. Interesting, 416 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 5: he's been like, yeah, it wouldn't be at the top 417 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: of your list, but he's been surprisingly good and he's 418 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 5: a ruck forward, which I didn't even realize until I 419 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 5: looked at up. So yeah, with Goldie in the in 420 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: the twos as we said, yeah, he an option, we'll 421 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 5: say that Cousey pick it three seventy. So well, just 422 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 5: like I was trying to find someone cheaper than Kerner 423 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 5: if you don't have any money, and it's goals down 424 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: there to be fair. So, I mean, he scored really 425 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 5: well on the weekend. Obviously he's extremely hot and cold, 426 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: but when he turns it on he can score some points. Interesting, 427 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 5: but yeah, yeah, you're in a pretty tough position if you. 428 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: I think you've got to try and get Jesse Hogan 429 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: if you have any But it's such a big upgrade 430 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: because Jesse's going to have an awesome phinix, he's going 431 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: to win the Cole and he's going to be fired up. 432 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: He's just been kicking four goals every week for fun. So, 433 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: but he's what is he one hundred k extra? Yeah? 434 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: Everyone else so makes it tough. But if you can't, 435 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: then you've got to trunk. 436 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: If you've got one trade left and one hundred k, yeah, yeah, 437 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: that's all. You're a legend. We should just let you 438 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: win the comp at this point. 439 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 7: Speaking of which, the chase for fifty k ol let's 440 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 7: do it, I'd say to the overall rankings of AFL 441 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 7: super Coach, I love this who we got at the top. 442 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: This is a great looking squad Cadiz crew. 443 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, so with only two weeks to go, I think 444 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 5: he is in a great position chasing that super coach 445 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 5: total of the champion of twenty twenty four and the 446 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 5: fifty grand that goes with it. Scored two seven to 447 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 5: two five on the weekend. He's got a one hundred 448 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 5: and thirty point lead on second. Who is dot Benjamin's 449 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: team who jumped up into second on the weekend. He 450 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: scored over twenty seven hundred as well. But just looking 451 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 5: at some of the differences between these two teams, they 452 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 5: both got Cherry and Gorne in the rock, which obviously 453 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: was massive. 454 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: On the week I would have got a lot better 455 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: the week yeah, pretty jealous of that. 456 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: But like looking in the midfield, Nathan, the number one 457 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 5: coach at the moment has Sam Walsh, Connor Rosie and 458 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 5: Errol Gordon, and the number two has Neil Dunkley and 459 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 5: Ldu in those spots. So Neil and Dunkley against the 460 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 5: Pies maybe could gain some points in the forward line 461 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 5: Cadiz crew the number one team has has our Man, 462 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 5: Luke Jackson and Dylan Moore. And but he's coming up 463 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: against Isaac Rankin and joy Simpkins. So I don't know 464 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: there's are there areas there where you think the number 465 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 5: two could could gain an edge in the last couple 466 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: of rounds. 467 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think Dylan Moore could obviously absolutely have a 468 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: field day into Tikes against the Tigers. 469 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: That's it's a bit Simpkins very up. 470 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 5: And now do they play North in the last round Hawthorne, Yes, yes, 471 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 5: a couple of good matchups here. 472 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 8: Yeah. 473 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: Wow, So he's one hundred and thirty points ahead at 474 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: the moment. 475 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a handy little gap there to be a 476 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: bit closer than that. 477 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the Caleb Wins are not is a 478 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: Jovin in third? 479 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 5: Yes, he's another ninety one points further back, so he's 480 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 5: got He's got Ron Marshall in the ruck instead of gone, 481 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 5: so he's got him a few points on the weekend. 482 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 5: But Marshall has been really good and yeah, I think 483 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 5: people will get into it later that he's got a 484 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: great run home and a really good matchup this weekend, 485 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 5: so it could be a chance for him to jump 486 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 5: up a little bit. 487 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: Nice one. 488 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think there is a great article on code 489 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: sports dot com dot at the moment about some of 490 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: the best matchups that we're looking at this week as well, 491 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: So we do cover this a lot with pig mentality 492 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: about some of the best teams and best well the 493 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: best names you could be looking at for this week 494 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: for your VC's you sees. We talk about this in 495 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: Captain's Call with him as well. But some of the 496 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: matchups that will be looking at and some of the 497 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: teams that have been shocking of late. Obviously your beloved 498 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: Tigsal giving up the most points to both midfielders and defenders. 499 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, great. 500 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: Melbourne Collingwood are very very easy mid matchups as well. 501 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: We've seen that proven time and time again so far 502 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: this season. Sydney and Brisbane are the hardest matchups for 503 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: your midfielders. So you think about Brisbane are playing Collingwood 504 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 2: this week, you have Sydney playing Essendon, so you're if 505 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: you're sitting there re lying on. 506 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Like Nick day Orse and Zach Merritt, you're like, oh god, 507 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: Joe Cold. 508 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 509 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: West Coast and Geelong have proven to be the easiest 510 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: Rock matchups. So there is a really really really really 511 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: good dig down on cod sports dot com that you 512 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: go checked it out some of the ones to maybe 513 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: benefit Noah Anderson, James Cecily Locke, Neil rowand Marshall Mark. 514 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: If you've got, if you've got you know it is 515 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: against West Coast. 516 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: Th Well, just through in there, because yeah, I mean 517 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: you I don't really know what situation you'd be in 518 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 5: that you're trading in Mark Britne. But if you're coming 519 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 5: into the it's the last game of the round, if 520 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 5: you're tracking your live scores, you're in a pre limb 521 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 5: and you're you know, one hundred and fifty points behind 522 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: and you've got one trade left. He's only four hundred 523 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: and thirty K. The last two weeks the Rucks against 524 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 5: West Coast Cherry scored one hundred and eighty five on 525 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 5: the weekend. The week before, Jared wid scored one hundred 526 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: and sixty one. I don't know Pidow's quite in that 527 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 5: have the same ceiling. 528 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: He's in six hundred and thirty eighteen, so he's. 529 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Got six months family. 530 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 3: That could be a fun little pod there. 531 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 2: I do have him for draft, so once TDK went 532 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: down and grabbed Pidow, but I don't know if I'll 533 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: be It's English the whole time, so it's not about 534 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 2: interesting good stuff. All right, let's go over a chat 535 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: with pig Mentality. This is a really really fun one. 536 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: Enjoy. 537 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: It's also got Captain's call in there. It has ripped 538 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: Snorter Snorter pigs, don't mind it get stuck in all right, 539 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: and now we welcome on because look, Fantom has just 540 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: cowerded it out. I think this week Al just saying 541 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: because maybe someone jumped ahead of him in the standings. 542 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: But in place of him, we actually have one of 543 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: the more unique super coach brains out there. That's right, 544 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: We've finally brought on pig Mentality from doctor Supercoach. He 545 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: is the guru of picking captains. It's awesome to have 546 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: you on, mister Mentality. Thanks for joining us. 547 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 8: No problem, all guys. 548 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 9: It's nice to jump on the official Super Coast podcast 549 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 9: and chat with you guys. Chat through some things. Like 550 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 9: you said, captains are being going pretty well this year, 551 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 9: we can talk about kind of how we go through 552 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 9: picking them. Yeah, just have a general chat about super coaches. 553 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 9: You know, it's a pretty fun hobby we play. It's 554 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 9: coming towards the end of the year, so I don't 555 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 9: know what we're going to do for the rest of 556 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 9: the year, but we'll find something. 557 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: Sure, bills coming up, super Coach GMBL, We'll got super 558 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 5: Coach BBL. 559 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to be that's bored of the bone. Let's 560 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: start though, with your name pick mentality. Where does this 561 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: come from? 562 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 8: It probably started a few years ago. 563 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 9: So I was mainly playing super Coach as just league 564 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 9: rivalries with my friends rather than kind of going for 565 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 9: rank or anything. 566 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 8: And I I had a I can't remember what my 567 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 8: team names. 568 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 9: It was something really boring, like like the Jokers or 569 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 9: something like that. And then I decided that that wasn't 570 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 9: good enough, it wasn't setting good enough example. I wanted 571 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 9: my players to all become pigs. I wanted them all 572 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 9: to have the pig mentality, So I thought, I'll just 573 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 9: make my team name that, you know, give them all 574 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 9: the airge. Yeah, that's essentially where it came from. And 575 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 9: it's kind of I guess in like correspondence with people, 576 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 9: and now it could just get shot into pig. So 577 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 9: a lot of times, like when I'm talking to people 578 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 9: who just be hay, pig, how are you going? 579 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: So that's awesome A doctor. 580 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 9: Super Coach catch up in like in person earlier in 581 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 9: the year, and like, not many people know my real name, 582 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 9: it's just good a pig, how are you going? 583 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 8: Which I think is pretty fun. 584 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: I like that you at least have like the optimistic 585 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: approach of like I've got a pig mentality. I do 586 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: like if we just got called my team to be 587 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: like Jimmy Spuds. 588 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: But I mean this is. 589 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: Spud mentality, that's right, absolutely not like mine is actually 590 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: like King Delly's tins. It's basically all of my players 591 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: been on the piss the entire it feels like it's 592 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: been shocking. 593 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: So anyway, where do you want to start talking captains here? 594 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 9: Well? 595 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, I mean, captain's obviously always super important 596 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: in Supercoach but especially coming into knockout finals prelim final 597 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: this weekend, and not many of us have trades left, 598 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 5: so where can you get an edge? And getting the 599 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 5: best captain score is really the best way to do it, 600 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 5: I think. And yeah, if you listen to pigs videos 601 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 5: each week that he does for Doctor Supercoach, just a 602 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 5: fantastic resource that I've been using for most of the 603 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: year to try and nail those VC and CEE picks 604 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 5: each week. So can you just take us through a 605 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 5: bit of the process. You know, how did you hone 606 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 5: in on that being a real specialty? And I mean, 607 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 5: you can give us the rundown of your record this year, 608 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: but you haven't missed too many. 609 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, And you're right when we've got no trades 610 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 9: left or you know, a lot of times you're in 611 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 9: prelim finals, you might have any five unique players or 612 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 9: something like that, so the captains can be kind of 613 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 9: your one point of difference to get a good score. 614 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 9: So for me, I guess it's a few things. Like 615 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 9: a large part of it is looking at the opponent 616 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 9: they're playing that week, So you know, there's some really 617 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 9: good players in really good form, but if they're coming 618 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 9: up against. You know, if it's a ruckman, say coming 619 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 9: up against Jared Witz that wins all the hitouts, that 620 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 9: you might not want to target them. It's really about 621 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 9: targeting guys they have a really nice matchup. We can 622 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 9: talk about rucks as well, in particular because they I 623 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 9: think are probably the easiest to predict because when they 624 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 9: come up against a ruckman that doesn't win many hitouts. 625 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 9: So there's a few guys like that Bailey, William, Sam 626 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 9: Deacone when he was in the ruck, even rowand Marshall, 627 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 9: Tim English don't win many hitouts. So if you've got 628 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 9: a ruckman that wins a lot of hitouts, so that 629 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 9: could be a Cherry and Nan Curvis someone like that, 630 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 9: you think they're probably going to have just forty hitouts 631 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 9: just based on the stats, even before you even take 632 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 9: into account disposals, marks, goals things like that. So it's 633 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 9: a free potential forty points or if some go to advantage. 634 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 9: Even more so, looking at the who that playing is 635 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 9: a really really big part of it. Same for midfield 636 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 9: as like at the moment, you know, Melbourne giving up 637 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 9: a lot of points, Gold Coast Colin would have been 638 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 9: giving up plenty. Richmond so I was targeting those teams. 639 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 9: But it's kind of evolved throughout the year because at 640 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 9: the start of the year, we didn't have much data, 641 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 9: well we didn't have any twenty twenty four data, so 642 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 9: it was relying on twenty twenty three data, and that 643 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 9: you know, some of that changed between the years. So 644 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 9: at the start of the year, I was kind of 645 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 9: I was looking at the matchups and but also players 646 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 9: in form, Like we really got take into account players 647 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 9: form because I have been stung a few times this 648 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 9: year recommending someone with a really, really really good opponent 649 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 9: but they're not in form, and I don't know why 650 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 9: I just expected them to break out that form slump 651 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 9: just because they're playing an easy team. So it's a 652 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 9: real mix of things. So now I think I've got 653 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 9: a really nice balance of targeting the guys in form. 654 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 9: Like I mean, Tristan Cherry is in insane form right now. 655 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 9: I think he's got a three round over to one sixty, 656 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 9: and he still has two of the easiest matchups to come, 657 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 9: so I don't think I'm moving off him anytime soon. 658 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 9: But you know, Bonds just had two really nice games 659 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 9: in terms of matchups. Then he gets a little bit 660 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 9: harder Locke. Neil's just had a few tags, but now 661 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 9: he gets two teams that probably won't tag and also 662 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 9: aren't really in finals contention really with Collingwood and Essenon, 663 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 9: so I think he could have a bit of a 664 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 9: good run home. 665 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 8: So that is my two mixes. 666 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 9: It's it's players form, which there was a period in 667 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 9: the middle of the year where I kind of forgot 668 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 9: about that part of it and was just looking at matchups. 669 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 9: But yeah, taking in so looking at players form but 670 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 9: then really waiting the ones that have the really nice 671 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 9: matchup is kind of I guess the secret source. And yeah, 672 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 9: it's been going pretty well. I mean the last two 673 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 9: weeks I try and rank them as well, give them like, 674 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 9: if you've got this player, he'd be my number one, 675 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 9: but if you don't have him, then. 676 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 8: This this guy. 677 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 9: Last week, Cherry's one eighty five was my number one, 678 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 9: and the week before that I recommended BoNT who had 679 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 9: that one eighty two. So we're on a little hot 680 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 9: streak right now. I've actually done the research for this 681 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 9: week yet to work out he'll be number one, But yeah, 682 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 9: the video came out usually Wednesday, AVA, so we'll find out. 683 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: Then without in mind. 684 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean, has there been like one call that you've 685 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: had that just really sticks out to you from out 686 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: throughout this season where you've just gone, Yes, no one 687 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: saw that one coming, but I nailed it. 688 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a few because I try and recommend a 689 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 9: few vice captains, a few captains, but then also a 690 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 9: pod or a point of difference captain, and that's been 691 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 9: hitting really well this year and I've been really enjoying 692 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 9: that because I remember there was one early in the 693 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 9: year where James Sisley, I think he had a season 694 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 9: average of about one hundred of that stage, just kind 695 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 9: of going along as he was, but had that juicy 696 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 9: matchup with Richmond that Luke Ryan had just previously destroyed. 697 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 9: I recommended sicily he went off for I think it 698 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 9: was nearly one point fifty. Then a few weeks later 699 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 9: saw Tom Dakoning had the really matchup with his brother 700 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 9: Sam's and that was at one seventy. I mean even 701 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 9: a few recently, like not many people have been vceing 702 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 9: Jackson Claire, but he's one forty the other week against 703 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 9: West Coast. 704 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 8: That was one of my recommendations. 705 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 9: So there's a few out of the box ones and 706 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 9: from my point of view, it's actually a bit funny 707 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 9: because I don't own a lot of these players, so 708 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 9: I'm recommending these awesome guys and just thinking, oh, I 709 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 9: wish I had them. 710 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: Frustrated. 711 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 8: Jesus, that'd be really good if I had him, and 712 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 8: I don't. 713 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 9: But I'm getting a lot of joy this year about 714 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 9: just out of helping other people hit those really random captains, 715 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 9: which is quite a nice part of the content creation, 716 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 9: I guess. 717 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 5: And have you developed over the year some favorites in 718 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 5: terms of, you know, someone like the Bond who's just 719 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 5: so reliable, or like you know, TDK went on this 720 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: insane run for four or five weeks just because of 721 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 5: those captain scores. 722 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely. 723 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 9: I mean, if I went back and looked at you know, 724 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 9: who's might been my number one recommendation the most this year, 725 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 9: I think it would probably be Max Gone before he 726 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 9: got injured. He was just incredibly reliable, and like I said, 727 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 9: I think it's a bit easier to pick the ruckman 728 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 9: when they'll have the big scores. So he's been someone 729 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 9: I've really liked. Tim English going on this rollercoaster at 730 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 9: the moment where there was a stretch there he's going 731 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 9: like one thirty one seventy one, thirty seventy one, thirty seventy. 732 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 9: That was actually a little bit predictable in terms of 733 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 9: the one thirties were against very very easy opponents, so 734 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 9: that was kind of fun to just do a little 735 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 9: prediction and see what would happen. But yeah, absolutely, Max 736 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 9: Scorn's probably been my main guy. I love kind of 737 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 9: chasing a VC on Zach Butters just because. 738 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 8: Of his ceiling as well. I love him yep. 739 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 5: And what's your VC strategy? Do you have a preferred approach? 740 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 5: I know super coaches often sort of fall into two 741 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 5: camps where some people like to just pick someone early 742 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: in the round who could go bananas and some sort 743 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 5: of a bit of a free hit, and then you 744 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 5: pick someone safe as a backup, or others like to 745 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 5: try and get the VC at the time it works 746 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: out on the guy you think will be the whole 747 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: higher score, so at least you're not going to miss 748 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: that hopefully, and then if that doesn't work, then you 749 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 5: sort of try and pick someone playing after. 750 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, mine is absolutely to VC who I think will 751 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 9: be my highest scorer. There's a couple of caveats, ones 752 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 9: that you need someone safe that you can think would 753 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 9: be like a one twenty four back playing after them. 754 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 9: I wouldn't want to VC someone if it's kind of 755 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 9: if I don't have any confidence with anyone after it, 756 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 9: and then you also need a loophole playing later, so 757 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 9: it doesn't always work. But yeah, the VC for me, 758 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 9: I want to chase the guy that I think will 759 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 9: score the highest, because I don't want a VC someone 760 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 9: that gets a one twenty. When I've projected, say Bond 761 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 9: to get a one fifty later in the weekend and 762 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 9: I kind of know that's ll think that's coming, but 763 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 9: then I kind of get pressured into maybe taking the 764 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 9: one twenty. So that's where I go. But you know, 765 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 9: there's plenty of people that said that just want two 766 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 9: cracks at a one twenty, and that's also quite fine 767 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 9: because their average probably ends up pretty well. 768 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: What do you reckon? 769 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: The biggest score you've had on a VC is that 770 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: you roll the dice on and sting don't care go 771 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: to see anybody else. 772 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: We're letting a roll baby. 773 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think I had like it, definitely won 774 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 9: twenty five's i've passed on this year. But then at 775 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 9: the same time, I've taken someone fifteen's if there hasn't 776 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 9: really been someone after. 777 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 8: It that I've wanted. 778 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 9: I know there's a few times, like there was a 779 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 9: Max Scorn one earlier in the year where he played 780 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 9: I think he played a Sunday early game, and there 781 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 9: were quite a few guys that I was thinking, yet, 782 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 9: they'll probably get like one twenties, one thirties, like you know, 783 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 9: there were some Butters and some Wrongs that played before him, 784 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 9: and everyone was getting these one thirties really happy with it. 785 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 8: Cool. 786 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 9: I was getting really really nervous saving my VC till 787 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 9: a Sunday morning or Sunday. But then I think it 788 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 9: was that Tim English game where Maxicorn put a one 789 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 9: seventy on him or something, so it was worth the wait. 790 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 9: But that was such a nerve wracking because everyone was 791 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 9: locking in these really nice vcs and I haven't even 792 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 9: touch mine yet. 793 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: I've heard lots of people get stucked in me as well, 794 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: like wanting to put the VC on a Friday, and 795 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 4: I do think like that's just an just go for 796 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: the big, bigger player or the bigger score. Do you 797 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: think a lot of people go really want to do 798 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: it on the Friday night just so it's over and 799 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: done with. But we've had a lot of Friday night 800 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 4: matchups that haven't been very super coach worthy, So yeah, 801 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: what do you think about that? 802 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 8: Look, I don't mind it. 803 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 9: I there is something to getting the VC out early 804 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 9: and not stressing about it. I will say that that 805 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 9: is a fair point in like, especially people that play 806 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 9: sport on a Saturday or a Sunday and can't do 807 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 9: those loopholes. 808 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's totally fine. 809 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 9: And sometimes I do go a Friday VC, just like 810 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 9: if I'm a know, a wedding that weekend and I'm 811 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 9: not going to be active. Yeah, I'll get rid of 812 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 9: it early, exactly, Yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, I mean 813 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 9: my preference is to save it for who I think 814 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 9: is the best. But ye, yeah, I'm not going to 815 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 9: talk anyone out of having a Friday VC because it's 816 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 9: fun as well to VC someone while you're watching on 817 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 9: a Friday night after work. 818 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 5: Are there any Obviously, you've had an extremely successful run 819 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 5: for most of the year, but were there any picks 820 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 5: that really surprise you by bombing out totally or even 821 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 5: players more generally over the course of the year. 822 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 9: Bombing outs it's interesting because especially the guys like that 823 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 9: go on that hot run at the start of the year. 824 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 9: I'm thinking this year Caleb throngs and Luke Ryan's, and 825 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 9: when you don't own them, it feels horrible and you're 826 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 9: just seeing them putting up one thirties every week and 827 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 9: you're really upset you don't have them. But then by 828 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 9: the end of the year the average kind of evens 829 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 9: out and they haven't even averaged one twenty. So if 830 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 9: they going one thirty at start of the year, it 831 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 9: probably means they going one to ten or something in 832 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 9: the second half of the year. So that's kind of 833 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 9: something trying to take a learning from I guess, which 834 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 9: I'm sure right these learnings down and then just totally 835 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 9: ignore them next year. It happens every time, But that 836 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 9: is quite interesting that there's actually very few players at 837 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 9: average one hundred and twenty for an entire season. So 838 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 9: the drop off of Luke Ryan and even Caleb Sarrong 839 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 9: to an extent has been surprising. But I don't know, 840 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 9: maybe it shouldn't have been because not many people actually 841 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 9: keep that up. 842 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: I like this, gott to write this down out. 843 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're keeping this, Yeah, yeah, My entire thing is 844 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: I think I come to the like I'm just out 845 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: here throwing shade and burning trades. That's what I do, right, 846 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm just like I go to I just go to 847 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: stop trading. But I think I needed like a rule 848 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: next year just to go James, you literally only have 849 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: twelve trades, but that's it. I secretly have forty, but 850 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: I can only see twelve, right, and then I can 851 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 2: just like I'm not going to be out here wasting 852 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: it chasing like as you said, right, I think this 853 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: is the biggest thing we need to learn from these seasons, 854 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: that the ones that are absolutely flaming hot, there is 855 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: a long tail to the season, right, and it's always 856 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 2: sort of an even out look at Tom Green, how 857 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: he was absolutely flying earlier in the season, thgning for 858 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: a bag of chips. Midway through the year, and he 859 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: continues to score about like a bag of chip. So 860 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: it's just stuff like that, which is, you know, the 861 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: toughest things to remember at the end of a season 862 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: when it's all gone pair shaped or it's gone great guns, 863 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: and then you sort of think about next year and 864 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: then you just get all the excitement rolls over again, 865 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: doesn't it and you're like, ah, here we go, We're 866 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: back boys. 867 00:34:59,719 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 868 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 5: I mean it's so hard trades in this mentality early 869 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: in the year just about how long the season is, 870 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 5: and it just like that just seems so long ago 871 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 5: that you know, Tom Green was probably at one fifties 872 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 5: in the first three rounds and at that time, I 873 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 5: just think, this is my whole team season is dead 874 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 5: if I don't do something about it. But yeah, that's 875 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 5: twenty four rounds. 876 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, And how's your season gone in general? 877 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: But from like obviously nailing the captains and stuff, but 878 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: do you have, like you know, in terms of overall ranking, 879 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: and you're happy with where you landed, are you sort 880 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: of like regretting some trades, like basically regretting all forty 881 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: of mine? 882 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, it hasn't been the season I necessarily wanted. Like 883 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 9: last year, I had an incredible season, finishing ninety fifth, 884 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 9: and it's been a huge reality check this year of 885 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 9: not being there. I've kind of been horring between light 886 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 9: nine K and eleven K this year and not being 887 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 9: able to move up or down, just just hovering there. 888 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 8: And it's been self inflicted. Really. There were some things 889 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 8: I tried this year. I tried to antipod a fore. 890 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 9: You guys just just for no real reason other than 891 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 9: you know, if they got in then I'd get a 892 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 9: leg up. 893 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 8: So guys like. 894 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 9: She's all Neil and Grundy I specifically avoided, which is 895 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 9: just silly, ended up with guys like Warner and Sam 896 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 9: Daconing and English when he was quite unique. 897 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, so part of it. 898 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 9: So I guess, you know, being in the public eye 899 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 9: this year, being a podcaster for the first time, I 900 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 9: wanted to, you know, have a really good score and 901 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 9: got a little bit adventurous. But I think sometimes being 902 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 9: a bit of vanilla and you know, you see everyone 903 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 9: getting Locky Heil, maybe I should just get Locky Heil 904 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 9: too and not try and be crazy and get Chad Warner. 905 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: How's Lucky Neil going for you out? 906 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 5: Yeah it hasn't been the best, but yeah, I think 907 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 5: the round you were talking about, if you got on 908 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 5: him then you'd still still be pretty police. I mean, 909 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 5: the question I was kind of thinking of, too, is 910 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 5: that you know, obviously you do a lot of research 911 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 5: for the captains, and it's been you've known it just 912 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 5: about every time. Do you use that when calculating trades 913 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 5: as well, like if you look ahead and say, look, Tristian, 914 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 5: Jerry's got this amazing rock run for the next month 915 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 5: or six weeks, you know, they're the guys you want 916 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: to trade in. 917 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I definitely do. I probably it's probably something 918 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 9: I could do more. I'm probably more, especially with the 919 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 9: captain stuff, focused on quite week to week, but that 920 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 9: the data is there to be able to project it 921 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 9: forward for five or six weeks. So it's definitely something 922 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 9: we can look at, Yeah, to predict who you should 923 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 9: be bringing. I mean, there are guys that kind of 924 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 9: buck those trends and we just go on a hot 925 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 9: streak regardless. But in general, picking the nice runs can 926 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 9: be a really good way to do it, and not 927 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 9: you know, not overpaying for guys, Like going back to 928 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 9: what we're talking about before, when you see Sarong and 929 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 9: Ryan just going bonkers, you know, you don't need to 930 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 9: pay sixty fifty for them because they prove that they 931 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 9: got down to five point fifty this year. It might 932 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 9: not happen, you know, when you've got the cash of 933 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 9: able to get them, but I think it's something. Yeah, 934 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 9: not overpaying for guys has been a learning as well. 935 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: That's very good. I feel like everyone's done that for 936 00:37:59,280 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: a few plays. 937 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my great decision is wrongover Bond and me 938 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: going I went the anti part as well. 939 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't need Bond. He's at seven hundred k. He've 940 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: come down, he never came down. Yeah, breaking my heart. 941 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 5: He's probably the one, isn't he there? Maybe not seven 942 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 5: hundred k, but yeah, he's never really come down in price. 943 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, he's going to be probably nearly seven hundred 944 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 5: k again next year, and it might be the one 945 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 5: that you just you just say, well, we just pay 946 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 5: it and then you don't have to worry about him 947 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 5: all year. 948 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, nice one. All right, Well, we usually do Captain's 949 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: Call on our Monday show. Uh so who better to 950 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: do it with this week than pig mentality. So I 951 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: thought we'd kick this around on the AFL Today Show 952 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: very briefly last night, didn't we? 953 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: Stats boys did. 954 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 3: Yes, I've changed my mind since then. 955 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: I was just like looking, all right, Errol Gordon against 956 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: the Bombers. We know that the Bombers midfield is very 957 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 2: very suspect defensively, but they are on the road, they're 958 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 2: in Marble. I am very very very care I have 959 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: two small children. I'm like, let's knock my v C 960 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: out of the park. On Friday night, I have a 961 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: few tins and cheer him on, and I just love 962 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 2: while we're all Gordon might I was basically going to 963 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: throw the VC on him. 964 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 5: If you look at his just calling up his last 965 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 5: three against this and and I think pretty good. 966 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: They had at. 967 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: See there is method to my madness here. And then 968 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: I think outside of that, we did kick around the idea. 969 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: I think so we you know, my biggest thing has 970 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: been Noah Anderson all year? Uh and what do we 971 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: call him on this show? 972 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: At home? 973 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 2: He's been the hero more than he's been a villain. 974 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: Dominates when he's a villain, he's away from home. Noah 975 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: Anderson and h this is another team that stinks in 976 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: terms of defensive stuff with their mids. That's the Melbourne 977 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 2: Demons giving up plenty of big scores. So I'm obviously 978 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: not just struggling, struggling and struggling for survival at this point. 979 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: So I might be just rolling the dice and going 980 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 2: well erroll and then into Noah on the satellite, which 981 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 2: is my week could just be over by Saturday afternoon. 982 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: We're done. 983 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: Pack her up boys, but still that's ry. I'm lanning 984 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: uh pig mentality. Where do you think you sort of 985 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: initially land with some of your vibes from this week. 986 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 5: Just before you go into it? Do you have a 987 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 5: thought before you look into the data or do you 988 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 5: try to be just completely data driven? 989 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, a bit of both. I still use some 990 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 8: gut feel. 991 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 9: So generally I'll kind of get the fixture up and 992 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 9: then I'll go straight into the data and see, you know, 993 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 9: see what's looking good. But there are some things that 994 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 9: kind of skew the data sometimes, you know, because especially 995 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 9: when we look at kind of how players score or 996 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 9: what teams are giving up over the last five rounds, 997 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 9: if that team has say played a heaper really like 998 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 9: for example, Rowan Marshall looks like a really restrictive ruckman 999 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 9: on paper just in the last five games, because he 1000 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 9: hasn't played any of the really good rucks apart he 1001 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 9: did limit nak last week, which was surprised me. But 1002 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 9: it actually looks like he's a really restrictive ruckman. But 1003 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 9: you know, we've got years of data that says rowand 1004 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 9: Marshall gives up lots of points to ruckman. So there 1005 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 9: are times where I use a gut feel and say, no, 1006 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 9: I don't actually think he's that that's true. I think 1007 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 9: it's just because he's played, you know, Bailey Williams and 1008 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 9: Oscar Macinernie and guys that you know don't normally score big. 1009 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 9: So yeah, data mainly, but a bit of gut feel 1010 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 9: this week, as I said, I haven't fully done the 1011 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 9: research yet. I'll usually do it today or Wednesday and 1012 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 9: then the video comes out so you get all the 1013 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 9: breakdown then. But just looking at it that there are 1014 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 9: a few guys like I was actually going to mention 1015 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 9: Noah Anderson at home against Melbourne. 1016 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 3: Nice. 1017 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 9: I think that's a really really nice one. He just 1018 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 9: dominates at home and Melbourne or Melbourne are not going 1019 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 9: so well, right, we. 1020 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: Can use avoid train wreckord that's happy, that's all right. 1021 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 9: They're a mess, so they are giving up lots of points. 1022 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 9: I'm just going to love Tristan Cherry against Tim English. 1023 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 9: Tim English is one of the worst, like Ruckman in 1024 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 9: terms of winning a hitout percentage. He doesn't win the 1025 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 9: hit out that much despite being a tall, athletic guy. Cherry, 1026 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 9: I think he's averaging like one hundred and thirty when 1027 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 9: he averages forty or more hitouts off the top of 1028 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 9: my head, so I expect him to probably do that again. 1029 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 9: I think he'll just destroy Tim English. Just looking at 1030 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 9: a few others, I mean Cicily's got that Richmond match 1031 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 9: up again. Yeah, maybe that's an option. Or even guys 1032 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 9: like Dan Brosio and Aimon are actually doing pretty well, 1033 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 9: so I probably wouldn't be see them. Not many people 1034 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 9: own them looking at I mean rowand Marshall against Geelong. 1035 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 9: I've been talking rowand Marshall's kind of last four Super 1036 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 9: Gooch Finals matchups up for a while, sing to people 1037 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 9: if if you only play leagues and you don't really 1038 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 9: care about your rank, you know you could get roand 1039 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 9: Marshall because he's going to come home like a steam train. 1040 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 9: I think he's got a three round average of one 1041 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 9: twenty and now he's got Geelong this week. Yeah yeah, 1042 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 9: Geelong then Carlton. So roand Marshall against Geelong, you know, 1043 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 9: whichever rock when they put out, they're just not restricting anyone. 1044 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 9: Carlton against West Coast. I think Nick Newman, I've been 1045 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 9: talking him up for a while. It's having an insane 1046 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 9: defender run to come home. So he's got West Coast 1047 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 9: this week then Sint Kilda next week, so if anyone 1048 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 9: needs a defender trade him for pretty cheap. 1049 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 8: I'm big on Nick Newman. I think he could have 1050 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 8: be a captain option this week. 1051 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 9: There's also sometimes what do you guys think about trying 1052 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 9: to trade him players that are a real chance of 1053 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 9: a medal right now, Like I'm thinking Jesse Hogan potentially 1054 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 9: two games left to win the Coleman whether you'd actually 1055 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 9: be se him or seen him, but I'm maybe more 1056 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 9: like a Charlie Kerno replacement or guys like Lucky Neil 1057 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 9: or Patrick Cripps really vying for that brown Low. 1058 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 8: Do you reckon that? Do you reckon that's the thing 1059 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 8: that we should be Yeah. 1060 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 5: Times in last year for the last round and he 1061 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 5: had like kick No. One or something, so it's sort of, 1062 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 5: you know, your matchups sort of coming into it obviously 1063 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 5: as well. But yeah, I think that that is definitely 1064 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 5: something that could be going on. I'm not so sure 1065 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 5: about the brown Low, but Coleman definitely. I mean, you know, 1066 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 5: if Tom Hawkins plays in the last round against West Coast, 1067 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 5: I suppose you want to too long to be safe 1068 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 5: in the top four. But you think they're going to 1069 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 5: kick it to him Mandre Dams, aren't they. 1070 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, be a fun little one, especially a long supporter. 1071 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 3: If you've got one trade letters bringing, that'd be fun. 1072 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: Nice one captain scored for you, stats for you. 1073 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 4: I was I was just saying about Friday nights. I 1074 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 4: don't know if I should go for ad Ice, but 1075 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 4: Heiney I think he's back. He got one forty four 1076 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 4: last week and he got one hundred and twenty eight 1077 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: against the Bombers earlier in the year, So I don't 1078 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 4: mind a bit of Heeney. 1079 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 3: For that one. 1080 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: And then my captain, it's going to go to the Bond. 1081 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 4: I'm an all supporter. Bond always dominates against US. I 1082 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 4: think he's had one fifty seven and one sixty nine 1083 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 4: and his last two against the Ruse. Yeah, the Bond 1084 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 4: is just gonna have an absolute field. He was playing 1085 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 4: injured out of the goal square, so any time he's 1086 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 4: injured during the week, he just dominates and he's always 1087 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 4: going to dominate against North. So going to go to 1088 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 4: the Bond as captain? 1089 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: What do you reckon? 1090 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1091 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 5: I like you touched on Lucky Kniel obviously been frustrating 1092 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 5: own for me since I brought him in a few 1093 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 5: weeks ago. But yeah, against Collingwood, no tag, I think 1094 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 5: he will go a pretty well nice VC option. And 1095 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 5: then I was really debating Cherry or BoNT. But yeah, 1096 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 5: just what you've said there probably tips me towards Cherry. 1097 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 5: And looking at those hit up hitout stats that you mentioned, 1098 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 5: Tim English versus Riley O'Brien on the weekend lost the 1099 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 5: hitouts fifty eight to sixty, so that sort of backs 1100 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 5: up your what you're saying about. Yeah, how Cherry could 1101 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 5: really And the crazy thing about Cherry is I think 1102 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 5: he only had five hit outs to Advantage on the 1103 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 5: weekend and still is called one hundred and eighty five. 1104 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 5: It was all that we had so much clearance and 1105 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 5: a dozen tackles or something. So yeah, he's just absolutely. 1106 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 8: Killing it for. 1107 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 5: That's chaos could yeah advantage, and yeah, I think he'll 1108 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 5: be massive again on Sunday. Nice. 1109 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: All right, there you go. 1110 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: This has been Pig Mentality on the official AFL Super 1111 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: Coach Show. This has been fantastic. 1112 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: Really enjoyed it. Thanks for jumping on, mister Mentality. 1113 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 9: No problem, Thanks for having you guys, it's good to yeah, 1114 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 9: good to jump on talk some stats, talk some super 1115 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 9: coach and hopefully everyone that's in their league finals can 1116 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 9: get a win this week and get through to the Granny. 1117 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 1: Get everybody in the trough. Come on, let's do it 1118 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: all right, there you go? 1119 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 8: All right? 1120 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: How good was that chair with Pig mentality as he's 1121 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: known around these pus mister mentality. 1122 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: That was great. 1123 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely enjoyed that, like especially Captain school, Like, I think 1124 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 2: I do very easily just go, you know, I'm looking 1125 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: at I spent a lot of times agoing that match up. 1126 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: This matchup cool. I just like this vibe without really 1127 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: digging as far as I ought to, It's going to 1128 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 2: be fine. And I think he said an amazing point 1129 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 2: there about how oh you almost rely on them to 1130 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 2: play themselves back in the form, like because you believe 1131 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: in them, like right, and just doesn't work that way, 1132 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 2: Like their form is their form and if they eventually 1133 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 2: turn that around, it's just a weird thing to be writing. 1134 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 5: Right. So the great thing that Pig does too is 1135 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 5: like when you're talking about matchups, it's really specific to positions. 1136 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 5: So you think someone's playing the Eagles, or someone's playing Richmond, 1137 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 5: They're obviously going to score well. The other think Richmond, 1138 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 5: you probably can say that, but you know it might 1139 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 5: be surprising that you know, Collingwood is a really easy 1140 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 5: team for midfields to score against, and you know it 1141 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 5: can be little factors like that that can really make 1142 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 5: the difference. 1143 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 4: Nice. 1144 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. 1145 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 2: It's time for running hot. I love a bit of 1146 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 2: running hot. My man number three at the moment. So 1147 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: this is your best three round averages. L This is 1148 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: awesome at the moment because it was one of my 1149 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 2: heroes earlier. Maximus or really as Gornicas absolute legend of 1150 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 2: the game one thirty four point seven is he's rolling 1151 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: three round average. 1152 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: Not bad from the big fell at all, not bad 1153 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: at all. 1154 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 5: Isn't he injured? 1155 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. 1156 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 3: He's come back and being fine. He's tracking both ends, 1157 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 3: taking make marks. 1158 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 5: They keep showing photos of his legs like that's messed up. 1159 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm still playing on it. 1160 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 5: Number two al Marcus Bonton Pelly a little bit quieter 1161 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 5: on the weekend, played a bit more forward, still kicked 1162 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 5: a couple of goals and has a three round average 1163 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 5: of one thirty six and has a very nice matchup 1164 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 5: this weekend. 1165 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: And stats boy, who's number one, number. 1166 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 4: One, I'm very happy to talk about him, X big 1167 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 4: Extrist and Jerry. He's been awesome, one sixty three round average, 1168 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 4: just unbelievable. He's just he's just going, I'll get one 1169 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 4: eighty on your head like every week. 1170 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 3: You can just back him for that. I'm so annoyed. 1171 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 3: I don't have you in my team. 1172 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 4: But he's three around and averages just unstoppable, just gets 1173 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 4: a lot of touches, then thirty touches on the weekend, 1174 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 4: thirteen clearances with around the likes of cheese and older you. 1175 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: He just goes. 1176 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 3: I was doing myself, don't worry about it. So he's unbelievable. 1177 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 2: And he has the Western Bulldogs this week as well. 1178 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 2: We just talked about this about English and scoring just 1179 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 2: so not bad, right, Oh, let's. 1180 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 8: Do it quick fire around quickly. 1181 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 3: Boys. 1182 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: Who does Toby Bedford tag versus free? 1183 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 9: Oh? 1184 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: This this is a really really good question. 1185 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 5: So wrong Hayden Young question mark he's big enough maybe though, Yeah, 1186 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 5: I mean if I was the opposition coach, which I'm 1187 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 5: clearly not, but I would look at Hayden Young because 1188 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 5: he's just so damaging when he gets the ball and 1189 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 5: he's kicks inside fifty really resulting scores. So so Wrong's 1190 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 5: more you sort of work horse, you get to your 1191 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 5: thirty five touches. But yeah, I wonder if he could 1192 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 5: go to Young. But as you say, he's a bit 1193 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 5: of a taller mid So does your matchup work? 1194 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 4: You're right because Sarong and Brashaw just use their hands 1195 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 4: a lot where Brace was young half back. When he 1196 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 4: comes off half back throw it through the midfield. He's 1197 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 4: just gone forward every single time. Yeah, very sure Saron 1198 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 4: might use the hand side. I would be going to Young. 1199 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 4: I just don't know if that matchup is right. But 1200 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 4: be Effort is a lot stronger and a lot better 1201 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 4: at tagging than I ever thought he would be, So yeah, probably. 1202 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: Young, nice one. 1203 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 5: Will you start Clayton Oliver next year? I'm certainly not 1204 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 5: going to until I see Otherwise album. It's just like 1205 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 5: if you look at the raw numbers, he averages one 1206 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty every year for like six years in 1207 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 5: a row. This year he's only gone over one hundred 1208 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 5: and five times, scored thirty eight on the weekend. He's 1209 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 5: now only four hundred and four thousand. It's going to 1210 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 5: be very so exactly, that's going to be so tempting. 1211 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean it really is. 1212 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 5: Just we're just going to be watching his preseason to see. 1213 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 3: Does he do preseasons anyway? 1214 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1215 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean will it be with Melbourne? 1216 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 5: Is the That's another factor. 1217 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 3: I'm saying, though I don't, I don't want anything to do. 1218 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 5: With this is the one where I reckon I might 1219 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 5: say no now, but you know he's come out and 1220 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 5: scores one hundred and fifty in the preseason. 1221 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: Oh that's a nail. 1222 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 3: And that's me on the head. 1223 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 2: Al has absolutely nailed this one from it'll be like 1224 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 2: February next Year'm like Clayton Oliver four are because yeah, 1225 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 2: I just I. 1226 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 5: Just down grade one of my mids to Clayton Oliver. 1227 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 5: I could get someone else. 1228 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1229 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 2: The last of the quick fire round questions, will we 1230 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 2: ever pick a key forward again? 1231 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 5: Oh? 1232 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 4: Boy? 1233 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 5: I might be about to depending on how Harry McCay 1234 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 5: is doing. 1235 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 8: But this is it. 1236 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: We've hit on this a couple of times this season. 1237 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: We even threw out some names. I know earlier in 1238 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 2: the season we're looking at like Harry had been playing 1239 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 2: across the ruck, had gotten a lot of touches. Obviously, 1240 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 2: Charlie Curnoho's run home looks so so so enticing. It's 1241 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,959 Speaker 2: completely backfired and blown up in everyone's face. Picking key forwards, 1242 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 2: we know that it's rife with problems. But if you 1243 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: had to just stuck with Jesse Hogan, Pearl Patch isn't 1244 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: it today. 1245 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 5: But he picked his Hogan in round one and then 1246 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 5: it was a part of a complicated strategy to then 1247 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 5: trade him out at the GWS buy and all that 1248 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 5: sort of thing. But yeah, maybe should have just hang 1249 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 5: on with for low year Patch with a complicated strategy. 1250 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 5: I fhim the key forwards stats. 1251 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 4: Boy, that's my number one rule in super coaches. I 1252 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 4: never ever picked a key forward. I only pick from 1253 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 4: the very start of the year. If they played a 1254 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 4: bit of midfield, they're in my forward one. So I 1255 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 4: stay away from him. And as we've seen this year, 1256 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 4: they just somehow get injured every two weeks. 1257 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just keep getting sucked back into last year. 1258 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 5: I had Tom Hawkins and Text Walker and it's really 1259 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 5: a bitt the timing and if you just haven't for 1260 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks, it can get sometimes payoff. But yeah, 1261 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 5: like I targeted Corona after the buys, which I know 1262 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 5: a lot of people did thinking you had a great 1263 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 5: six or seven one. I think that was a bad man. Yeah, 1264 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 5: he put a couple of hundreds up, but then scores 1265 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 5: in the thirties and then getting injured and it's just 1266 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 5: been terrible. So yeah, definite word of warning. But forwards 1267 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 5: next year going to be pretty groom. It was hard 1268 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 5: this year and we're going to lose something anyway exactly. 1269 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 5: So yeah we might, yeah we might get forced into it. 1270 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 2: But I mean I's ok with that. Like outside of 1271 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 2: the it's now not quick fire. But like your top 1272 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: your top forwards are Sam Flanders, Isaac Heeney, Danes Orko, 1273 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 2: Tige Colwell, Dylan Moore, Luke Jackson, then Jesse Hogan at seven, 1274 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: three or four of them. 1275 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, like those top four probably won't be about very sad. 1276 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: Then we go A and B Alex, Neil Bullen, Joe Janahan. No, 1277 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: the drop off is from. 1278 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 5: How bad the forwards have been this year is going 1279 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 5: to be we get some good, good rookies in the 1280 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 5: forward line next year. 1281 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 8: Right quickly. 1282 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 2: It's a game of names, name games. I was on 1283 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 2: the holidays and I still won fantastic. Going back to 1284 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: week twenty, I think it was Decos versus Neil. I 1285 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: won that one us he had there one forty seven 1286 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. This week, however, I think 1287 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 2: we're going to go Anderson versus Cherry. 1288 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 1: Is that right now? 1289 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1290 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 5: Surely Cherry. I haven't been great at these das, It's 1291 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 5: fair to say, but I've got the pig mentality stats 1292 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 5: to back me up here. So I'm going to back 1293 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 5: in Cherry to go absolutely bonkers again. Although I do 1294 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 5: think noeh Anderson, if you could somehow squeeze him into 1295 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 5: midfield this week, he would be a great trade in. 1296 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 2: Well, he's always known here on the Supercoach Show as 1297 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 2: at home Nora Anderson. So don't prove me wrong now, Anderson, 1298 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 2: go absolutely bananas. Give me a massive score that'd be 1299 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 2: really appreciated. 1300 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: All right, Monday moves before we go? Does anybody on 1301 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 1: who trades left? 1302 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 3: Nope? 1303 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 2: Nope, So it's Jim's trades apparently Charlie Coner. So my 1304 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 2: first initial look at this was, all right, cool, I 1305 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 2: have Charlie Curono. I have to make this move. Possibly, Harry, 1306 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 2: we're playing you know the Eagles. A pretty sure he's 1307 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 2: going to kick a few, can kick a bag of ten. 1308 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: Let's go Harry mcturton. 1309 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: And then the news just breaks that he might have 1310 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 2: also been injury cloud and I'm just like, it's gonna 1311 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: go like rambhead against the wall a few more times, 1312 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 2: because that might be more fun than trying to figure. 1313 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: Out what you wanted to do. 1314 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 3: This just bringing Jed Walter because you love it. 1315 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 9: I do. 1316 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: At the same time, So Matthew Kennedy, we took this out. 1317 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 2: That's probably going to be the trade. I will go 1318 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth, back and forth all week, 1319 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: no doubt on who I trade Charlie out for. Matthew 1320 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 2: Kennedy's right there. Tom Powell, I'm not really I don't 1321 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 2: actually I think it's seventeen in the bank, seventeen thousand 1322 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 2: in the bank, So I don't know if I can 1323 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: actually afford the likes of Tom Powell, which is brutal 1324 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 2: to say, but outside of that, the options are essentially uh, Harry, Joey, Danaher. 1325 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 2: I don't really like that matchup against Collingwood, Carl Langford, 1326 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 2: Brian Myers, Kennedy. It's just the j train like against 1327 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 2: the Blues. Maybe the J train goes Absolutely. I can't 1328 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 2: do it though, So it's very very very. 1329 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: Thin on the ground. 1330 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 5: What if Cano gets up, He's obviously probably be bit 1331 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 5: dodgy potentially. 1332 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 3: But aren Square would exactly. 1333 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,439 Speaker 5: But would you hang on try and save the trade 1334 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 5: then for Grand Final week? 1335 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 2: I probably would. I'd probably maybe, yeah, just hold on 1336 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 2: to it for that one more week. You can't can't 1337 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: spend when you're dead, So maybe I'll just use it anyway, 1338 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 2: just because I don't know how. 1339 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: I think I might. It's in the chamber. It might 1340 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: be pulling the trigger. 1341 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 5: All right. 1342 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: There you go. 1343 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 2: That's it for the Round twenty three preview show for 1344 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 2: the AFL Supercoach Show. I remember to subscribe to Supercoach 1345 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: plus take your game to the next level, follow all 1346 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 2: things Code Sports for the latest AFL Super Coach news 1347 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 2: and analysis, and if you haven't already rate review on 1348 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 2: Apple Spotify, subscribe to Code Sports. 1349 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: And YouTube all the good stuff there. You'll get notifications 1350 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: when they come out. 1351 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 3: It's great. 1352 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 2: Subscribe and for all the news and fun gear smash 1353 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 2: the AFL Today Show. Thanks once more to pig Mentality. 1354 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 2: That was a great chat. Thank you to the stats 1355 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 2: boy for jumping on Lee McAllen. 1356 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 3: Thanks, good to be back. 1357 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 2: Okay, that's the last time you're gonna be on that. 1358 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 2: And thanks to Al because he's a legend. 1359 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 5: Thank you, James, and just our one last comment if 1360 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 5: people have feedback or suggestions or things you'd like to 1361 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 5: see on the show. Probably looking at the next year, 1362 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 5: given they've only got one or two of these left, 1363 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 5: we'll probably we will try and do some episodes in 1364 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 5: the off season. So that's something we're very keen to 1365 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 5: get into. But yeah, leave a comment and we'll be 1366 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 5: you know, we'd love to review the season at the 1367 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 5: end of the year. She's coming up pretty quick, and yeah, 1368 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,439 Speaker 5: we can workshop that into what we do for next season. 1369 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1370 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 2: I think what I've really enjoyed this year as like 1371 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 2: a listener and on the show, he is like when 1372 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 2: you dig into the top level coaches and when we've 1373 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 2: had a couple of them on the show, it's been fantastic, right, 1374 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 2: Like getting that slightly different successful perspective has been really cool. 1375 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed that. So anyway, there we go. 1376 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: I've been James Clements happy super Coaching