WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 30 April

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening and welcome to the readA Panney Show. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up tonight. The hypocrisy of the Teals as Simon Holmes

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<v Speaker 1>accord claims that their MPs are victims of misogyny. The

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<v Speaker 1>panel will be here to discuss that and plenty more

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<v Speaker 1>extreme violence in Alice Springs as the Chief Minister seeks

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce the toughest bail laws in the country. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham will join me shortly. Alex Stein and Coridangelis will

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<v Speaker 1>have the latest from the US and Left Is Losing

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<v Speaker 1>It features the historically illiterate Joyanne.

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<v Speaker 2>Read the Roman Empire didn't survive because it didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>enough strength in its diversity.

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<v Speaker 3>It suppressed its diversity and it died.

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<v Speaker 1>But First Foreign Minister Penny Wong has once again fanned

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<v Speaker 1>the flames for an Indigenous voice to Parliament. Sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>on an episode of the but Tutor Talks podcast, Pennywong

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<v Speaker 1>said Australians in the future will be dumbfounded to know

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<v Speaker 1>that they vote against such an important issue.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I think we'll look back on it in ten

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<v Speaker 4>years time and it'll be a bit like marriage equality.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you reckon? Like I always just say marriage equality,

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<v Speaker 4>which took us such a bloody fight to get that done.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought, all this fuss, it'll become something to

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<v Speaker 4>be like people go, do we have an argument about that?

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<v Speaker 4>They weren't even like kids today any even adults today

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<v Speaker 4>barely kind of clock that it used to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 5>Joining me now four more on this is our panel.

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<v Speaker 1>Sky News contributors pro McSween and Tina McQueen ladies. The

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<v Speaker 1>Australian people voted sixty.

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<v Speaker 5>To forty No. It was a landslide.

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<v Speaker 1>Every state voted no, despite the No camp having a

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<v Speaker 1>fraction of the money of the Yes camp to campaign

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<v Speaker 1>pre I'll start with you, why is the Albanezy government

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<v Speaker 1>trying to re litigate this issue?

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<v Speaker 6>Because they have no respect for the Australian people. They

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<v Speaker 6>have their own agenda and they're in ten on delivering it.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know the hypocrisy of this woman who opposed

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<v Speaker 6>the initial marriage equality bill or proposal by the Greens.

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<v Speaker 7>In twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 6>Is using that as an example of how people change

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<v Speaker 6>their mind. Well, she certainly changed their mind, didn't she.

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<v Speaker 6>But the fact that they've got in their budget, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>an allocation of money for the truth telling and the treaty.

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<v Speaker 6>We know the macarata is. They're on the agenda and

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to force it through and they don't care

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<v Speaker 6>because they're so cocky now they think that they can

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<v Speaker 6>inflict anything they like.

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<v Speaker 7>On the Australian people and we'll copy it.

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<v Speaker 6>And frankly, if they get in on May three, we

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<v Speaker 6>are copying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Tina, perhaps the Coalition would have campaigned on this issue,

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<v Speaker 1>campaign on the fact that we had this expensive, divisive

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<v Speaker 1>voice or referee and put the notion out there that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to try this again, because what we heard

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<v Speaker 1>there from Penny Wong is clear evidence that Labor has

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<v Speaker 1>not accepted or has any respect for the will of

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian people.

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<v Speaker 8>No respect at all retail.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, I'm in absolute disbelief that the Coalition hasn't got

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<v Speaker 9>hard on this. I mean, we had a wonderful win

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<v Speaker 9>with the Voice under circumstances that didn't favor us at all,

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<v Speaker 9>just Enter Price single handedly. I just can't believe we've

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<v Speaker 9>ignored this issue. And everyone knows that Albanezi can be

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<v Speaker 9>a little bit vindictive, hates to lose, and if they

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<v Speaker 9>do form government on May third, I can promise you

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<v Speaker 9>in the first couple of weeks that will reintroduce this.

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<v Speaker 8>They'll have no respect for the voice vote.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm in shock that we haven't just campaigned on this

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<v Speaker 9>hard the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Labor are running another medi scare campaign. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>ones running the scare campaigns though they are in power,

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<v Speaker 1>and the coalition seems to have been reluctant to go

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<v Speaker 1>negative to actually point out this isn't just a scare campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a real possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what they did last time around, and they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't accepted the umpire's decision. They're pushing ahead with this

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<v Speaker 1>race agenda and if they're in coalition with the Greens,

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<v Speaker 1>then watch out. Now let's talk about Simon Holmes Accord.

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<v Speaker 1>He has claimed that many of the female til MPs

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<v Speaker 1>he backs are at risk of losing their seats and

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<v Speaker 1>it's due to misogyny. Simonomes Accord said, there are misleading,

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<v Speaker 1>misogynistic attacks to undermine the credibility of these women. But ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Homes, the court seems to have a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a short memory because it seems to have been very

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with these sort of attacks against conservative politicians. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>look at just a few examples. Back in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>you use the term crumb maidens a derogatory term to

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<v Speaker 1>describe Anne Roston, Kayla Cash, Maurice Payne. In twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>he also called Victorian MP Katie Allen pathetic and told

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Lay to get in the bin. And who can

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<v Speaker 1>forget his conduct with Liberal MP Jane Hume last week

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<v Speaker 1>her homes of Court called her the nanny. In twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>he accused her of bitchiness, and during the twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>election campaign he accosted her at a polling booth after

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<v Speaker 1>Hume told him numerous times to just leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 5>We remember all that footage, Tina.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems that Simon Holmes the Court has a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>hazy memory when it comes to women copying unfair treatment

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<v Speaker 1>in politics.

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<v Speaker 9>Very selective and it's also apparent from the previous statements

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<v Speaker 9>the conservative women simply don't count. And this is quite

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<v Speaker 9>often the case across the board. His comments have been

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<v Speaker 9>disrespectful and wopeful to conservative women. Yet now he's trying

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<v Speaker 9>to make out it's the teal candidate.

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<v Speaker 8>He's women that are hard done by. Nothing could be

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<v Speaker 8>further from the truth.

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<v Speaker 9>I do hope he's right, though I hope some of

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<v Speaker 9>them at least lose their seats. But he should be

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<v Speaker 9>more good that he responded to Jane him. But he

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<v Speaker 9>should be more careful and treat all women with respect,

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<v Speaker 9>not just those that he pays their campaigns.

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<v Speaker 5>Prue.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not isolated when it comes to the left.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very sensitive to any hints of misogyny sexism when

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<v Speaker 1>it's targeted at leftist women, but they are guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>just heinous behavior us. Some of the most reprehensible things

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen online targeted at women are targeted at

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<v Speaker 1>conservative women, and the Sisterhood doesn't come in to defend them.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sisterhood isn't there to say this sort of behavior

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<v Speaker 1>is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 7>Read did they have double standards? Don't they?

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<v Speaker 6>The hypocrisy is astounding, or probably not so astounding these days.

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<v Speaker 6>We're so used to it from any of the lefties.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, you have this spoil little rich boy

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<v Speaker 6>who's got this big bank, big wallet, and he's not happy.

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<v Speaker 6>He's stamping his foot because it's not going his way.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, thankfully people are waking up to the teals.

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<v Speaker 6>These con artists who pretend to be something and are

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<v Speaker 6>definitely the opposite.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm delighted that they're under threat.

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<v Speaker 6>I just hope that the donors and many of whom

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure are you know, people have invested quite heavily

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<v Speaker 6>in the renewables.

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<v Speaker 7>Scam as far as I'm concerned, will.

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<v Speaker 6>Wake up to the fact that, you know, they're backing

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<v Speaker 6>the wrong horse.

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<v Speaker 7>But I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 6>When money is in line, you know, they'll always go

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<v Speaker 6>after the money trail.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as we reach the final days of the election campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the cringe worthy posts from the candidates

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<v Speaker 1>are getting worse. Let's take a look here at a

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<v Speaker 1>labor candidate for Ali France. She's contesting Peter Dutton's seat

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<v Speaker 1>of Dixon. Just inspiring stuff there. Now, when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to weapon grade cringe, the Greens are among the worst offenders.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a look at Green's letter, Adam Band's.

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<v Speaker 5>Work friend, Bady friends.

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<v Speaker 10>Friend.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, there's worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a look here at Green's candidate Mandy Nolan, who

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<v Speaker 1>seems to think that if we get rid of coal

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<v Speaker 1>and gas projects, we will somehow be able to fund

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<v Speaker 1>health and education better. And she also thinks she cannot

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<v Speaker 1>cap mortgage payments.

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<v Speaker 11>You know what would make sense if we've got dental

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<v Speaker 11>in domedicair, and we had a limit on mortgage and

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<v Speaker 11>rent increases, and we stopped opening cold and gasmine in

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<v Speaker 11>the middle of a climate crisis, so we can fund

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<v Speaker 11>health and education and make sure that everyone has a

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<v Speaker 11>secure home.

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<v Speaker 7>Proue.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just a fantasy in material. We perhaps should

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<v Speaker 1>start having some truth in advertising regulations when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the Greens.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's astounding that there isn't truth in advertising. This

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<v Speaker 6>whole campaign has been a campaign of fabrications, misinformation and lies.

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<v Speaker 7>The ads that we see at nauseum.

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<v Speaker 6>Are all lies, and yet they're getting away with it.

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<v Speaker 6>Where is the consumer protection? And we've got these influencers

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<v Speaker 6>who apparently have a brain. I have yet to determine

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<v Speaker 6>if they do, but they're going to squeal the loudest.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that last one said nothing changes. If nothing changes,

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<v Speaker 6>well if they keep if they actually do vote in

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<v Speaker 6>Labor and the Greens, nothing will change.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, reader, It's sad.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean we sit back and eye up and laugh

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<v Speaker 9>at these ads, but it's frightening. Some of these people

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<v Speaker 9>may actually get elected. And if someone like that is elected,

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<v Speaker 9>that's the scary part. So as much as we'd like

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<v Speaker 9>to mop and make fun of these ads, because they

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<v Speaker 9>are ridiculous with some demographics, they work and it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Scary and they're going to squeal so loudly when they

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<v Speaker 6>can't power up their influencer, you know, spotlights and post

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<v Speaker 6>it and charge their phones. They're going to wonder what happened, Well,

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<v Speaker 6>they deserve what's coming to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they'll blame somebody else. They'll never take responsibility that

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<v Speaker 1>the very policies that advocated for has brought about the

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<v Speaker 1>pain they're suffering.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, let's have a look at this bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of satire from the days when the chaser was actually funny.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why people used to vote for the Greens

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<v Speaker 1>before they become I don't know what do you call

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<v Speaker 1>them these days, far left extremists.

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<v Speaker 9>I felt disillusioned and let down by the two major parties.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I voted Greens.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm an inner city trending who's never had to.

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<v Speaker 1>Deal with really shees like drought, transport or having to

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<v Speaker 1>run your own business.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I voted Greens. I'm trying to get into

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<v Speaker 5>the pans.

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<v Speaker 12>So this hot hippie girl is into dolphins and shit.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I voted Greens.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm a cool hepster from Melbourne who always lives against

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<v Speaker 13>the Green just a.

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<v Speaker 9>Look alternative, That's why I voted Greens.

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<v Speaker 14>I was just staying on an elections.

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<v Speaker 7>Tita.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to be a joke, we used to mock them,

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<v Speaker 1>but really you look at them now, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the policies that advocate for the anti Semitism, the hostility

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<v Speaker 1>to Australia. They're a dangerous party and they may hold

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<v Speaker 1>the balance of power. In fact, that's possibly the most

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<v Speaker 1>likely scenario, as the Poles stand tonight tonight and all.

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<v Speaker 9>These young people but you know, rushing to vote for them.

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<v Speaker 9>What about the inheritance tax guys they might introduce. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 9>you're all think of the future, think of your inheritance,

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<v Speaker 9>Think very carefully before your vote Green. Although I haven't seen,

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<v Speaker 9>they're not moving too much in the polls, hopefully their

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<v Speaker 9>vote will drop this election.

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<v Speaker 1>Reta now, Housing Minister Clara O'Neill has distanced herself from

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<v Speaker 1>ten potential volunteers linked to the Chinese Communist Party in

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<v Speaker 1>her electorate of Hotham. A Chinese Australian labor member who

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<v Speaker 1>describes himself as a friend of Miss O'Neill reportedly used

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<v Speaker 1>an intermediri to gather ten Chinese Australians to staff polling

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<v Speaker 1>boots on election day. And this all comes claims of

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<v Speaker 1>possible foreign interference involving till MP Monique ran in the

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<v Speaker 1>seat of Qyong. There are approximately one point four million

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<v Speaker 1>Australians with Chinese ancestry living in the country right now.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a pretty significant voting block.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, this is the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, both parties will all parties want to court them.

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<v Speaker 6>A diasper has quite a powerful influence. And what's concerning

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<v Speaker 6>is the contradiction. So we have Clara O'Neil saying that

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<v Speaker 6>this mister Ji, who is associated with the Communist Party

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<v Speaker 6>in China, volunteered to supply volunteers, but then he said

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<v Speaker 6>that her offers reached out. We've got Andrew Charlton who's

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<v Speaker 6>accusing Liberal volunteers of being part of the exclusive Brethren.

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<v Speaker 6>And we have, as you said, Mcmonique Ryan who's seemingly

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<v Speaker 6>having or for some amazing reason, these Chinese are again

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<v Speaker 6>volunteering for her. So there needs to be a whole investigation.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe into this because it's quite dangerous and when

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<v Speaker 6>we have political parties who are potentially being influenced by

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<v Speaker 6>the Communist Party of China, then we're in for a

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<v Speaker 6>really bad time. So it cannot be ignored. This is

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<v Speaker 6>very significant and we need an investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>Tina.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this part of the reason why the Albanese government

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<v Speaker 1>is so soft on China even as their warships are

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<v Speaker 1>in our territory, because they know there's one point four

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<v Speaker 1>million voters with a link to China and some of them,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe many of them, do have some feelings of allegiance

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't like to see criticism of China.

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<v Speaker 8>That's true.

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<v Speaker 9>There's no doubt that Albanesi is very careful not to

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<v Speaker 9>raffle China's feathers. Look traditionally, a lot of the Chinese

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<v Speaker 9>voters in electorates are conservative voters. But as you say,

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<v Speaker 9>there is this strong pool to the home country. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>Albanese is really tiptoeing about the whole China and I

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<v Speaker 9>think this is something done and again didn't capitalize on

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<v Speaker 9>to show our strength.

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<v Speaker 8>The countries will stand up to.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, there's so many things during this election we

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<v Speaker 9>should have been more firm on reader that will be

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<v Speaker 9>no doubt looked at closely after the election went Sadly,

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<v Speaker 9>it's all too late.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've been talking about it for weeks, even before

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<v Speaker 1>the election was called. We were in talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>coalition being bolder, being stronger, being clear in how they

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<v Speaker 1>differentiate themselves from Labor. And there are so many policy

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<v Speaker 1>areas where they could have done that energy being right

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<v Speaker 1>up there, immigration policy, population policy. If they came in

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<v Speaker 1>saying we're going to slash immigration by fifty percent because

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot cope with five hundred thousand people a year

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<v Speaker 1>coming in as they did under Labor, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would have spoke to the electorate. But they have just

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<v Speaker 1>declined to do that. It's been a bizarre campaign as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I've seen. Before you go, Lateies, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring you a bit of a Megan Markle. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a while since we've talked about the Duchess. She

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<v Speaker 1>appeared on a Friends podcast this week. A woman who

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<v Speaker 1>is even more annoying than Megan. Her name is Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>kurrent Lima. And here, I mean, the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 1>just so painful. I've just picked one little clip here.

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<v Speaker 1>She just talks about just what an incredible work ethic

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<v Speaker 1>she has.

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<v Speaker 15>My gosh, I work so hard, and I appreciate what

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<v Speaker 15>hard work looks like. I like working hard, and I'm

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<v Speaker 15>still working hard. Right the moment that everything sells out,

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<v Speaker 15>it doesn't mean that we're done. Yeah, it means we're

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<v Speaker 15>working on replenishment and what are the next cues and

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<v Speaker 15>what's the next tranch of products and what's the timing

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<v Speaker 15>on that, and writing the newsletters and writing their social

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<v Speaker 15>media captions and making sure that all that appeels in

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<v Speaker 15>line and what's the cadence of it, and what's the

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<v Speaker 15>photography that we want to.

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<v Speaker 7>Do and what do I want to wear for those shoots?

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<v Speaker 15>While also editing all the time coded notes for season

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<v Speaker 15>two of With Love Meghan, and then being in edits

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<v Speaker 15>for the podcast and making and being a mom and

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<v Speaker 15>a wife and a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the work ethic must just be grueling, writing social

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<v Speaker 1>media captions, deciding.

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<v Speaker 5>What she's going to wear, being a MoMA prue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too much for me that there's only small doses

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<v Speaker 1>of that podcast I can consume because it's just too.

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<v Speaker 7>Posting that long.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it is, so that is enough to make

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<v Speaker 6>you go to the toilet. I've got to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it is revolting. That woman is just something else. So

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<v Speaker 6>he's made his bed, poor h as she calls him,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, what a silly boy here is, and he's

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<v Speaker 6>going to learn the hard way.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's just exhausting watching her, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>And I love how she rabbits on about her children

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<v Speaker 9>and her love of family. How long since she's spoken

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<v Speaker 9>to a poor sick father.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, such a hypocrite. It's exhausting and hard to watch

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<v Speaker 8>for it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Separated Harry from his family, and did it whilst his

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<v Speaker 1>much loved grandmother was ailing. I mean, let's not forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>Pre McSween teena McQueen, thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now to the Northern Territory and another service station worker

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<v Speaker 1>was attacked over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>Plise say the worker was stabbed.

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<v Speaker 1>And punched after confronting two men over stolen items. This

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<v Speaker 1>comes just one week after another worker was allegedly stabbed

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<v Speaker 1>to death by an eighteen year old who was out

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<v Speaker 1>on bail on serious assault charges. This has forced a

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Territory's Chief minister to announce tougher bail laws, joining

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<v Speaker 1>me now to discuss this. This guy News Northern Territory

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<v Speaker 1>correspondent Matt Cunningham. Matt, it's been a pretty wild few

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<v Speaker 1>days in the NT. How's the community handling it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 16>Look, I think a lot of people reader are really

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<v Speaker 16>sad and they're really angry about particularly what happened last

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<v Speaker 16>week where we saw the owner of the Nightcliff Supermarket,

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<v Speaker 16>Linford Fike, stabbed to death in his own workplace, a

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<v Speaker 16>place where he has worked with his family, with his

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<v Speaker 16>wife Margaret and his son Ben. You know, they established

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<v Speaker 16>that business over morning three decades. It is a place

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<v Speaker 16>that really is the heart and soul of the community.

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<v Speaker 16>And to have a situation where an eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 16>man who according to police, was in there trying to

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<v Speaker 16>steal from that shop when Lindford tried to escort him

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<v Speaker 16>out of the premises and then he allegedly stabbed and

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<v Speaker 16>killed Lindford, I think has just left everyone quite shocked

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<v Speaker 16>and quite angry about the whole situation. And then to

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<v Speaker 16>subsequently learn that, you know, that alleged defender was on

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<v Speaker 16>bail for very serious offenses, including the alleged rape of

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<v Speaker 16>a fourteen year old girl. I think people are just

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<v Speaker 16>shaking their heads and wondering how on earth we've got

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<v Speaker 16>to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Matt, the Northern Territory will have the toughest bail

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<v Speaker 1>laws in the country. That's why the Chief Minister wants

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<v Speaker 1>to see what will that mean for the courts and

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<v Speaker 1>for the police and is it a plan that's backed

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<v Speaker 1>by community leaders.

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<v Speaker 16>Look, I think the plan has widespread support to answer

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<v Speaker 16>your question in Parliament today. I mean even the Greens

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<v Speaker 16>MP who represents the electorate of Nightcliff where this incident happened.

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<v Speaker 16>She in the Parliament supported the government's changes to bail laws.

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<v Speaker 16>So it had almost unanimous support from the parliament. There

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<v Speaker 16>was an independent MP who abstained and another independent who

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<v Speaker 16>wasn't in the chamber but did have the support of

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<v Speaker 16>the Greens MP. It had the support of Labor and

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<v Speaker 16>of course it had the support of the seventeen members

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<v Speaker 16>of the Government. What essentially is being changed is there

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<v Speaker 16>will be a removal of a clause that applies to

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<v Speaker 16>youth offenders at the moment that says detention must be

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<v Speaker 16>an option of last resort that has been taken out,

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<v Speaker 16>and there will be also inserted a clause where it

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<v Speaker 16>will say that a judge must have a high degree

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<v Speaker 16>of confidence that someone who is given bail will not

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<v Speaker 16>reoffend while they are on bail. Now, this is something

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<v Speaker 16>that was changed in New South Wales and the Chief

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<v Speaker 16>Minister Leafanocquio has said that not only will the legislation

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<v Speaker 16>here in the Northern territory now go as far as

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<v Speaker 16>New South Wales, it will in fact go further because

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<v Speaker 16>there will be more prescribed offenses that fall under this legislation.

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<v Speaker 16>Where that is the consideration that the judge must make.

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<v Speaker 16>I guess the question that's being asked because the country

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<v Speaker 16>of the Liberal Party came to power last August, and when

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<v Speaker 16>they came to power last August, they had promised to

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<v Speaker 16>crack down on baila, promised to crack down on law

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<v Speaker 16>and order. That actually implemented changes to the bail laws

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<v Speaker 16>that they'd call Declan's Law in honor of Declan and Lavity,

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<v Speaker 16>the twenty year old bottletrot worker who was killed a

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<v Speaker 16>couple of years ago, stabbed to death while he was

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<v Speaker 16>at work. So they changed the presumption so that the

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<v Speaker 16>presumption was against bail for a lot of these serious offenses.

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<v Speaker 16>But still we've had a number of incidents since then,

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<v Speaker 16>where we have learned of people committing serious violent crimes

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<v Speaker 16>while they have been on bail. So that's why they've

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<v Speaker 16>gone a step further now and implemented what they are

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<v Speaker 16>calling the toughest toughest bail laws in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously those changes weren't effective because, as you explained earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a man murdered a week ago allegedly by

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was out on bail on very serious offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you do end up with the toughest bail

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<v Speaker 1>laws in the country, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen footage of extreme violence in the past week,

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<v Speaker 1>of mass brawls at service stations, at pubs, on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Must just be terrible for the local community there to

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<v Speaker 1>be living with that. Do you think the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>and the Opposition leader should have a greater focus on

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<v Speaker 1>this issue as the election campaign hits the final days.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I think everyone here would love the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 16>and the Opposition leader to have a greater focus on

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<v Speaker 16>this issue. It seems sometimes living up here, it seems

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<v Speaker 16>like you live in a parallel universe and you look

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<v Speaker 16>at the issues that get discussed on the East Coast

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<v Speaker 16>in Canberra, etc. Particularly around the issue of Indigenous affairs.

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<v Speaker 16>I see this ongoing debate about welcome to country that

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<v Speaker 16>are happening at the moment in Sydney and Melbourne and Canberra,

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<v Speaker 16>and I can tell you not many people are talking

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<v Speaker 16>about welcomes to country up here at the moment. They're

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<v Speaker 16>talking about just the absolute chaos and dysfunction that we

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<v Speaker 16>are witnessing on the streets of Darwin. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 16>the streets of Alice Springs. I was in Catherine last week.

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<v Speaker 16>The number one number one thing people wanted to to

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<v Speaker 16>talk about in Catherine was the crime, the law and order,

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<v Speaker 16>the violence and dysfunction that is happening on our streets.

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<v Speaker 16>And I'd have to say, in many cases it's a

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<v Speaker 16>result of various policies in some instances that have been

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<v Speaker 16>sent our way from politicians in Canberra. I mean, right now, reader,

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<v Speaker 16>we are reversing decisions that were made by government in

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<v Speaker 16>the wake of the twenty seventeen Royal Commission into the

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<v Speaker 16>Protection and Detention of Children, a royal commission that Malcolm Turnbull,

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<v Speaker 16>the former Liberal Party Prime Minister, announced the morning after

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<v Speaker 16>he watched the TV show and we then had that

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<v Speaker 16>Royal Commission that went for twelve months and gave us

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<v Speaker 16>more than two hundred recommendations, and a lot of those

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<v Speaker 16>recommendations were about making it easier for people to get bail.

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<v Speaker 16>This is the situation we've been left in. So you're

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<v Speaker 16>all down there talking about welcome to country, I can

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<v Speaker 16>tell you that's not what we're talking about up here

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<v Speaker 16>at the moment. We're talking about the damage that is

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<v Speaker 16>being done to a community by policies that are often

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<v Speaker 16>directed by people who we are told are experts who

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<v Speaker 16>live a long, long way away.

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<v Speaker 1>From this place. Matt Cunningham Well said, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for your time tonight, still to come.

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<v Speaker 5>Left is losing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Plus who is the unhappiest woman in America right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Alex Stein joins me.

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<v Speaker 1>Next, you're watching the Reader Panning Show, and it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for lefties losing it? And Donald Trump was giving a

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<v Speaker 1>speech in Michigan to mark the first hundred days of

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<v Speaker 1>his second term when a lefty losing at last, decided

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<v Speaker 1>to make a monumental full of herself. Now what she

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<v Speaker 1>as the president tries to figure out whether there's lefty

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<v Speaker 1>is male or female?

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<v Speaker 13>What's the problem over there?

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<v Speaker 17>What's the problem is that a radical left lunatic. He's

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<v Speaker 17>just a.

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<v Speaker 13>Child all I get about.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 13>I thought it was a guy, thank you. And she

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<v Speaker 13>now has to go home to a mother who's a

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<v Speaker 13>big Trump fan. Her mother's watching. I'm sorry, I'm.

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<v Speaker 17>Sorry, I said he and it's a she.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be hard to work out whether some of

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<v Speaker 1>these radical left lunatic non binary folk are male or female.

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 1>And talking about LGBTQIA plus plus plus community, here is

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a trans woman also known as a man identifying as

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who fled to the UK, but it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>worked out well.

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<v Speaker 18>Consider to come to the United Kingdom, which has been

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<v Speaker 18>a huge mistake, I must say, not only the April

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<v Speaker 18>sixteenth of Ail, the past and valid eating transfers, genders,

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<v Speaker 18>tensions ship very quickly on laves change and yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 18>been found myself not welcome and place as I was

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<v Speaker 18>welcome just one mansorablon very quickly. It's been terriby.

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<v Speaker 5>Now sticking to the UK, you may have missed this,

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<v Speaker 5>but there was a little miracle the leftist British.

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<v Speaker 1>PMK Starmer, who no long ago claimed that some women

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<v Speaker 1>have penises? Will they somehow at the tender age of

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two worked out what a woman is?

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<v Speaker 3>Bless?

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<v Speaker 14>Do you believe a trans woman is a woman? I

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<v Speaker 14>think these Supreme Court has answered that question. But I

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 14>think a woman is an adult female, and the Court

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<v Speaker 14>has made that absolutely clear. I actually welcome the judgment

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<v Speaker 14>because I think it gives real clarity. It allows those

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<v Speaker 14>that have got a drop guidance to be really clear

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<v Speaker 14>about what that guidance should say.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have missed historically illiterate, hysteric Joyanne read since

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>she was sacked by MSNBC, But thankfully she's still producing

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>content like this where she claims voting for Republicans will

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 1>lead to civilizational death. And the example she uses couldn't

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>be more wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>If you take that away and try to distill us

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>just down to white folks, we'll be like Europe.

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 3>And aging, slowly dying former empire.

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 2>The Roman Empire didn't survive because it didn't have enough

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<v Speaker 2>strength its diversity.

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>It suppressed its diversity, and it died.

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<v Speaker 2>If the US wants to be the Roman Empire, keep

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<v Speaker 2>voting the way you vote in y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Joy's mad fever. Dreams about Trump and white

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>supremacy seem to impact her entire worldview, But you.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't change history.

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<v Speaker 10>Joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, before the fall of the Roman Empire, the emperor

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>granted full Roman citizenship to all three men within the empire,

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>changing the entire scope of citizenship to be far more inclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>Facts are our friends. Now, let's check in with former

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<v Speaker 1>First Lady Michelle Obama, who must be among the unhappiest

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>women in America. She's full of self pity, she's full

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<v Speaker 1>of disdain for the country that gave us so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and full of fears that are frankly hysterical in this

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<v Speaker 1>current climate.

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<v Speaker 19>For me, it's you know, what's happening to immigrants, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>So it's it's not the fear for myself anymore. I

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<v Speaker 19>drive around in a four car motor care with the

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<v Speaker 19>police escort.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Michelle Obama.

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<v Speaker 19>I do still worry about my daughters in the world,

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 19>even though they are somewhat recognizable. So my fears are

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<v Speaker 19>for what I know is happening out there in streets

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<v Speaker 19>all over the city. And now that we have leadership

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 19>that is sort of indiscriminately determining who belongs and who

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<v Speaker 19>doesn't indiscriminately.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Michelle, you have to be in the country illegally.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>You have to have broken the law to be in

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the country illegally to be a candidate for deportation. Kind

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<v Speaker 1>Of an important point, but miserable. Michelle wasn't done yet.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>She really does seem like the unhappiest person in America,

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<v Speaker 1>even with the full cor motiicate.

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<v Speaker 19>And knowing that there's so much bias and so much

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 19>racism and so much ignorance that fuels those kind of choices.

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 19>I worry for people of color all over this country,

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<v Speaker 19>and I don't know that we will have the advocates

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<v Speaker 19>to protect everybody, and that makes me.

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<v Speaker 7>That frightens me. It keeps me up at night.

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<v Speaker 19>And I know that there are and I see that

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 19>when I'm driving around LA, I'm just looking in the

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 19>faces of folks who could be victim, and I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 19>how are you feeling, How do you feel standing on

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<v Speaker 19>the bus stop, How do you feel comfortable going to work,

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 19>going to school when you know that there could be

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 19>people out here judging you and who could up end

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 19>your life in a second.

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<v Speaker 5>Incredible stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Funnily enough, Michelle wasn't too worried when her husband, the

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<v Speaker 1>man who got the nickname Deporter in Chief. She wasn't

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>too worried when he was in the White House and

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for deporting millions. That didn't keep her up at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give Michelle a little reminder.

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<v Speaker 20>We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United

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<v Speaker 20>States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 20>who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully to become immigrants

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<v Speaker 20>in this country. So that's why we need to start

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<v Speaker 20>by giving agencies charge with border security, new technology, new facilities,

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<v Speaker 20>and more people to stop process and deport illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how Barak used to campaign, and when he was

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<v Speaker 1>in office, he was deporting millions. He even talked about

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.719
<v Speaker 1>targeting businesses that gave employment to illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think this kept Michelle up at NASEE either.

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<v Speaker 20>We all agree on the need to better secure the

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<v Speaker 20>border and the punish employers who choose to hire illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, we are a generous and welcoming people here

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<v Speaker 10>in the United States, but those who entered the country

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<v Speaker 10>illegally and those who imployed them disrespect the rule of law,

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<v Speaker 10>and they are showing disregard for those who are following

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<v Speaker 10>the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is comedian and host of Prime Time

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<v Speaker 1>with Alex Stein on Blaze TV.

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<v Speaker 5>Alex Michelle was in the wine House.

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<v Speaker 1>During a period where Barack got known as the deporter

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<v Speaker 1>in chief? Did she ever speak out about that at

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the time, Because Trump's doing the same thing, and it's

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>keeping the poor woman up at night.

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<v Speaker 21>You know, honestly, I don't think Trump is deporting him

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<v Speaker 21>fast enough. I really do believe that, even though I

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 21>know he's doing a great job on stopping the illegal

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 21>border crosses right now. But listen, let's look at Michelle,

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 21>Obama and Riata. You know, I've been trying to kind

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 21>of pinpoint the similarities to Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 21>You know, if you look at it now, she's doing

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 21>a podcast. Jada Pinkett Smith is doing a podcast. It

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 21>just seems like this couple that you know, gave us

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<v Speaker 21>the impression that they are very strong, they're on thin eyes.

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<v Speaker 21>So I've just you know, the hypocrisy of the Obama

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 21>is considering they say climate change is one of our

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 21>biggest threats, that they live in Martha's vineyards. So this

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 21>is just another example of probably some of the most

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 21>hypocritical people on planet Earth.

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 5>But also some of the unhappiest.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems Michelle's podcast is just a massive winch fest.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Is She's just lives a fairly charmed existence. You would

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>think she's gotten more money than she could ever need.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 5>She's got the four car murdercate you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>There, but she just whinds endlessly on that podcast and

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>all these interviews. She's almost overtaken Meghan markl and Prince

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Harry as the most self delighted, overprivileged, miserable people in

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the country.

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<v Speaker 21>Well, and that's a tough award to win because nobody

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 21>can beat Meghan Markle really when it comes to that.

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 21>But you know, I mean, just the sad reality though

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 21>when it comes to Michelle Obama, is that you're right,

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 21>is that she's unhappy. She's doing whatever she can to

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 21>stay relevant, but the people wanted to run, She's not

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 21>going to run. So she's kind of stuck in this

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 21>in between zone of what does she want to do?

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 21>What is it going to be her identity other than being,

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 21>you know, the former first Lady. So she's kind of

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 21>grasping a straw. She's not as talented as people probably thought,

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 21>and nobody's listening to her podcast. There's trouble at home.

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 21>So the future for Michelle Obama, I imagine it is

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 21>going to be a tough road ahead, and I don't

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 21>think we're ever going to get actually any transparency. I

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 21>think that they could totally be divorced Rita and they

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 21>would never publicly stated, at least not for a while.

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 21>They'll just live one will be in Hawaii and one

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.760
<v Speaker 21>will be in Martha's vineyards. Because there are such phonies.

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 21>I don't even think they would admit that they can't

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 21>even make their relationship work.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, I reckon. This podcast has been an

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>enormous mistake. It's not only exposed how inpopular she is,

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>because she's always had this image of being enormously popular,

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 1>and that's been part of a appeal for the Democrats.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>She's always talked about as a future presidential candidate. But

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the numbers for this podcast are so woeful. But beyond

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that is she's become a figure of mockery because everything

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that seems to go viral from the podcast is material

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that sees her as the butt.

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 5>Of jokes because She wines and wines and wines.

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<v Speaker 1>She never has anything happy to say, and very little

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. That's the other thing that she's not a

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>very compelling character. Now I want to ask you about

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the tariff war. There were reports that Amazon was going

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<v Speaker 1>to list the tariff on items on its website.

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<v Speaker 22>It was reported this morning that Amazon will soon display

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 22>a little number next to the price of each product

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 22>that shows how much the Trump tariffs are adding to

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.760
<v Speaker 22>the cost of each product. So isn't that a perfect

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 22>crystal clear demonstration that it's the American consumer and not

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 22>China who is going to have to pay for these policies.

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<v Speaker 1>But alex Amazon is denying these reports. They're denying that

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they plan to display prices showing the tariff's impact on

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Amazon dot Com. I don't know if this has anything

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to do with a two percent drop in Amazon's share

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>price after the White House call. The reports of this

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>pricing plan a hostile and political act.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you make of this?

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Did they do a U turn on this policy when

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>they saw the backlash or was it always fake news?

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 21>Well? I hope it was always fake news, because after

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 21>Jeff Bezos' disaster, you know, sending Lauren Sanchez. It's a

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 21>space I mean, he just wasted all of his money

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 21>basically sending you know, let's be real, a bunch of

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 21>untalented I guess Katy Perry is a little bit of talent,

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 21>but not astronauts. None of those women were astronauts.

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 8>He sent them all into space.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 21>So I think that was actually not received as well

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 21>as they expected, and a lot of people thought that

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 21>was a way, So I think for their public relations

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 21>it cannot add this terriffic. Mag's already upset they sent

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 21>Katy Perry up there. He needs to try to appease

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 21>the American people, and these tariffs are unfortunate, but it's

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 21>just a necessary evil at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he has done a great deal of harm to

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the credibility in the image of those women. Katy Perry

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>is now being mocked widely. Is just having trouble moving

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>tickets for a concert, and I'm saying of her concert

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to our being mocked mercilessly. Gail King is also being

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>ridiculed online. It's one of the biggest PR disasters in

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>recent years, that little space expedition.

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 21>Well, and you know, it's not about the women. I

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 21>think people want women to go into space. But it

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 21>was just the women that they chose. I mean Lauren

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 21>Sanchez because she's dating Jeff Bezos, she gets to be

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 21>one of the women that goes up there. And you know,

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 21>it's just this is what we get. There's people that

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 21>are starving out there, the middle classes literally shrinking every

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 21>single second, and the billionaire elites are more interested in

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 21>sending their girlfriends up to space than actually helping the

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 21>American people. So I'm happy that Elon Musk is using

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 21>his billionaire power to give us some more government transparency.

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 21>Some of these guys need to use their power for

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 21>good and not wasting, you know, rocket fuel to send

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 21>these women into space. That Let's be real, Katy Perry

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 21>doesn't know what to do in space. What are they

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 21>testing ozimpic and zero G silicone and zero G gravity.

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<v Speaker 13>They don't need this. It's a waste reading this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if they actually did those tests, it could have

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>been a worthwhile exerciser.

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<v Speaker 5>Alex Stein, always a.

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<v Speaker 13>Pleasure, Thank you reader.

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<v Speaker 5>Still to come, we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Discuss the first hundred days of Donald Trump's second term.

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<v Speaker 5>Corey DeAngelis joins me.

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<v Speaker 7>Next.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, President Donald Trump is touted the first one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>days of his second term as the most successful of

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<v Speaker 1>any administration. Speaking at the Michigan National Guard, the President

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<v Speaker 1>also spoke about the enormous boost in the number of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans wanting to join the armed forces since his election

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<v Speaker 1>tribe last November.

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<v Speaker 17>Since November, enlistment numbers for every branch of the armed

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<v Speaker 17>forces have surged. Recruitment is now the highest it's been

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<v Speaker 17>in thirty nine years. This goes not only for the

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<v Speaker 17>armed forces, for the police, for firemen. People are proud

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<v Speaker 17>of our country again, big difference. But we had the

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<v Speaker 17>worst numbers that we've ever had. Virtually we couldn't get anybody,

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<v Speaker 17>and now we're overstocked. We have waiting lists of people

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<v Speaker 17>wanting to sign up and be with the military. They're

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<v Speaker 17>proud of our country again. And I'll be supporting a

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<v Speaker 17>record setting one trillion dollar investment in our national defense.

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<v Speaker 17>We're going to go one trillion dollars, the largest in

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<v Speaker 17>the world, largest ever.

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<v Speaker 5>One trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now as American Culture Project Senior fellow and

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<v Speaker 1>school choice advocate Corey DeAngelis, Corey has been an extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>hundred days. The President has set a furious pace. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been called a counter revolution. And one of the early

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<v Speaker 1>signs of this was the boost in recruitment numbers. Institutions

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<v Speaker 1>that were struggling to find recruits, the military, the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>the police force, they're now flooded with applications.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you I think that is.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 23>The Trump administration inspires confidence. The American First agenda is

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<v Speaker 23>popular with the American public, and Trump just makes people

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<v Speaker 23>feel proud to be venom again.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the golden age.

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<v Speaker 23>Of America in education and throughout the rest of the

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<v Speaker 23>country as well. Pete Hegseat is a great leader. He

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<v Speaker 23>was chosen to be the Secretary of Defense. So when

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<v Speaker 23>you have people that are proud of their country, when

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<v Speaker 23>you don't have DEI ideology infesting all the institutions, become

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<v Speaker 23>proud of those institutions. Again, it's based on merit, and

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<v Speaker 23>so when you become a soldier, you're happy to be

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<v Speaker 23>there and you want to brag about it to your colleagues.

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<v Speaker 23>I saw this in the I do education work. When

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<v Speaker 23>people first heard that Trump won election in a landslide

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<v Speaker 23>in November, they're calling me asking how can I be

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<v Speaker 23>out of this? I want to be in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 23>I want to the Department of Education and try to

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<v Speaker 23>dismantle it from within. And this is like unlike anything

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<v Speaker 23>I've ever seen before. So there's just more of the

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<v Speaker 23>momentum continue throughout that one hundred days.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to talk about the Department of Education shortly,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's focus on lawfare for a second. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of lawfare in the lead up to the election

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<v Speaker 1>and really has not stopped since. The efforts to frustrate

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<v Speaker 1>every Trump policy, particularly the deportation program, is in full swing.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat appointed activist judges have been particularly active. Late last week,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Judge William Morrick of the US District Court

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<v Speaker 1>for the Northern District of California issuing a ruling stating

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump's executive orders against sanctuary cities. He said they

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<v Speaker 1>were unconstitutional. He blocked the Trump administration from cutting funding

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<v Speaker 1>to sanctuary cities. Now Fox News reports this particular judge,

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<v Speaker 1>this Obama appointed judge, has deep financial ties to the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party, has spoken and events in support of Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris and Barack Obama, and he's even held.

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<v Speaker 5>Leadership roles on committees to.

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<v Speaker 1>Help elect Obama and John Kerry and let's before I

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<v Speaker 1>get your response, let's have a look at how bad

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<v Speaker 1>the situation is in California.

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<v Speaker 12>Just how many accused criminal migrants are in sanctuary jurisdictions

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<v Speaker 12>that have been released onto the streets. All these are

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<v Speaker 12>sanctuary cities Virginia, but at the very top, and I

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<v Speaker 12>think this tells a telling stories detainers rejected locally thirteen

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<v Speaker 12>thousand for the entire state of California.

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<v Speaker 7>Corey.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems mad, but Californians keep voting for this lawlessness.

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah, and in some cases s even worse than that,

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<v Speaker 23>where you have judicial activism at its worst from judge

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<v Speaker 23>or giving over one hundred thousand dollars to Democrat politicians

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<v Speaker 23>like Obama Hillary Clinton. And we'd hope that judges would

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<v Speaker 23>be non biased, nonpartisan, but the reality is sometimes they

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<v Speaker 23>are less accountable than elected officials because they're appointed and

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<v Speaker 23>if they go against the will of the people, you

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<v Speaker 23>can't kick them out of office. So it's a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 23>We see this with school choice programs too. We had

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<v Speaker 23>an activist judge in West Virginia to stop a school

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<v Speaker 23>choice program a couple of years ago. She was funded

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<v Speaker 23>by the teachers unions previously endorsed by the teachers unions.

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<v Speaker 23>And now you know, in some cases it has to

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<v Speaker 23>get You have to ask yourself, how bad does it

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<v Speaker 23>have to get before things change. California has hit rock bottom,

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<v Speaker 23>and at some point the voters have to figure these

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<v Speaker 23>things out and see that the GOP Trump's party is

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<v Speaker 23>leading the way towards prosperity and freedom. And so hopefully

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<v Speaker 23>the more of this judicial activism, the more that California

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<v Speaker 23>keeps electing these politicians who are authoritarians who want to

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<v Speaker 23>control your lives, at some point they're going to reverse

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<v Speaker 23>force and maybe they'll start backpeddling, or some point Republicans

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<v Speaker 23>will start to win worses.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's look at the US Department of Education. Their

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<v Speaker 1>Office for Civil Rights is launch an investigation into Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Public schools for an academic achievement initiative called a Black

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<v Speaker 1>Students Success Plan that discriminates on the basis of race.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's kind of in the name, isn't it. Corey,

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<v Speaker 5>tell me what's the latest on this.

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<v Speaker 23>It's a trogious it's a direct violation of Article six

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<v Speaker 23>of the Civil Rights Act in the United States. And look,

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<v Speaker 23>they're discriminating on the basis of race. That's school system's

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<v Speaker 23>failing kids of all different backgrounds, Black, white, Hispanic, and

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<v Speaker 23>so on and so forth. They should try to improve

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<v Speaker 23>outcomes for everybody and not single out one group. That

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<v Speaker 23>is a clear violation of civil rights law. And hopefully

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<v Speaker 23>they should lose their funding over the this issue, or

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<v Speaker 23>hopefully they can reverse course and try to up their

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<v Speaker 23>game and raise the bar for all students. But in

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<v Speaker 23>Chicago you have six percent of black kids that are

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<v Speaker 23>reading proficiently. I mean, it's a failure factory of a system,

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<v Speaker 23>and they're spending thirty dollars per yet per year. Things

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<v Speaker 23>need to change. School choice would provide some competition for improvement.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Chicago is really an example of what not to do, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, they are spending an enormous amount per student.

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<v Speaker 5>And the results are abysmal.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is hard to see how you could have

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<v Speaker 1>results that are so appalling given the expenditure, giving the

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<v Speaker 1>programs that they've supposedly have come out to address this issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, if you want to do well academically, do

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite off Chicago. Now, you wrote a piece in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Review about the battleful school choice, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to rural families. You say they want educational

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<v Speaker 1>freedom and they're voting for it at the ballot box.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me why this battle matters.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 23>For a long time, the tears unions knew they couldn't

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<v Speaker 23>make let leaning arguments Democrat arguments in red states. They

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<v Speaker 23>had to come up with some so called conservative arguments

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<v Speaker 23>to stop school choice, and one of them, including my

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<v Speaker 23>home state of Texas, was that rural voters don't want this.

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<v Speaker 23>We don't have a lot of private schools in rural areas.

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<v Speaker 23>The public schools the only option, and therefore it's okay

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<v Speaker 23>for you to vote with the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 5>But the oldest.

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<v Speaker 23>Voucher programs in the United States started over one hundred

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<v Speaker 23>and fifty year old in places like Maine in Vermont,

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<v Speaker 23>where they were specifically designed for kids in rural areas.

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<v Speaker 23>They figured out, if you don't have a lot of choices,

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<v Speaker 23>a lot of opportunities, that's an argument to expand freedom

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<v Speaker 23>an education, not to restrict this. So they gave scholarships

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<v Speaker 23>to kids to go to private schools that they wanted.

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<v Speaker 23>And the victories this year prove it too that rural

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<v Speaker 23>voters want school choice. They voted out the rhinos in

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<v Speaker 23>office who voted against their party platform, who voted with

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<v Speaker 23>the Democrats, they held them accountable at the ballot box.

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<v Speaker 23>And now you have states like Texas who went all

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<v Speaker 23>in on school choice, Tennessee, Wyoming, and so on and

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<v Speaker 23>so forth. Rural areas are passing school choice left and

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<v Speaker 23>right in the United States, which really just debunks the

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<v Speaker 23>claim that rural voters don't want this. They absolutely do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a huge it's a huge issue, and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that on the ground in the US. Is an issue

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<v Speaker 1>that really gets people motivated. Even people who weren't particularly

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<v Speaker 1>politically active in the past will do this because it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the interest of their children. It has an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>impact on the children's future prospects. Corey DeAngelis, you've done

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<v Speaker 1>great working area. Thanks for your time tonight, and.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it for me. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 5>Newsnight is up next.