WEBVTT - Lowering high cortisol; penis cancer surge; essential oil buzz

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Healthy Ish. Yes you have joined us on

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<v Speaker 1>the daily podcast and Body and Soul.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am Felicity Harley and joining me today is of course,

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<v Speaker 1>our fabulous digital editor Holly Berkleman. And oh have we

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<v Speaker 1>got some stories for you this week? Yes, we're chatting

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<v Speaker 1>through the three hottest stories in health of Honest this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, Holly, welcome to Healthy Ish. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us again on this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel like I've had five million meetings a day

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment that I'm getting through, how about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A bit like that at school holidays, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>always an extra juggle. I mean, I also hate lamenting

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<v Speaker 1>how busy busy we are, because we're all busy, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that little bit extra, right it is?

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<v Speaker 3>And I do feel like, aren't we meant to not

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<v Speaker 3>be as busy in winter?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a thing? Oh? No, I feel like summer

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<v Speaker 4>is meant to be busy but.

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<v Speaker 1>Winds into the slowdown, which doesn't really happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've never been less slow in my life, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well hit us up. What's happening in your world

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<v Speaker 2>this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, finally, the story that I found the most intriguing

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<v Speaker 3>this week was TikTok's obsessed with high cortisol. But how

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<v Speaker 3>bad is it really? From a personal standpoint? The answer

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<v Speaker 3>is very bad, but let's take a look into it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we spoke with founder of Body Clinic Sydney, Sydney's

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<v Speaker 3>premier health coaching of physiotherapy clinic, Nigel Morgan, who did

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of myth busting on cortisol for us. So basically, TikTok, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't think that maybe cortisole is as bad as

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<v Speaker 3>people say it is. I tell you straight up that

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<v Speaker 3>it is bad for you to have high cortisole continuously,

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<v Speaker 3>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I love that. Just love everyone together and say TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>Just TikTok people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but for a little bit of a down low

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<v Speaker 3>on cortisol. It's our primary stress hormone and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>kickstarts the fight or flight response when we perceive something

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<v Speaker 3>to be dangerous or threatening.

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<v Speaker 4>But since all.

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<v Speaker 3>Stresses activate the same system, our bodies are not great

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<v Speaker 3>at differentiating between real and perceived threats. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something might spike our anxiety, but it might not actually

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<v Speaker 3>be something that we need.

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<v Speaker 4>To stress about.

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<v Speaker 3>As I'm sure many listeners will know and as something

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<v Speaker 3>that I can attest to for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So is high quartersol really that bad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because it can impact your health quite a bit if.

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<v Speaker 4>It sticks around for long periods of time.

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<v Speaker 3>So it can spike anxiety, it can cause depression, but

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<v Speaker 3>it can also lead to lower immunity and increase in

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<v Speaker 3>IBS symptoms and nutrient malabsorption.

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<v Speaker 4>It can increase your.

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<v Speaker 3>Risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke and hard attack. And it

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<v Speaker 3>can even damage to the hippocampus which impacts long term

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<v Speaker 3>memory in your brain.

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<v Speaker 4>Myth past did Hey, yeah, myth is busted. So there are, however,

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<v Speaker 4>some things you can do to lower your quartersole levels.

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<v Speaker 3>So Morgan suggests going out of that fight or flight

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<v Speaker 3>state and into the rest and digest stage, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously that's what we'd all like to be in, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's a stage where your body is not like trying

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<v Speaker 3>to run.

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<v Speaker 4>Away from that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that threat, and is actually able to repair

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<v Speaker 3>itself and actually yeah reset. He also suggests things like

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<v Speaker 3>nasal breathing, slow nasal breathing, and regular exercise and healthy

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<v Speaker 3>living to help reduce your stress response. So we're not

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<v Speaker 3>reinventing the wheel here. But I do think it's important

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<v Speaker 3>when these things come up on you know, social media,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, oh, it's not actually that bad, that it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Good to talk to an expert and bust those myths.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. And look, I mean I know you, Holly,

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<v Speaker 1>but often I feel like I'm just living in this.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say higher cortisol stress state twenty four to seven,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say medium.

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<v Speaker 4>So next time I would say high.

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<v Speaker 1>Is someone on the medium corter cel stress state and

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<v Speaker 1>see if that's going to lead to long term health issues?

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<v Speaker 4>Please a great idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll touch base and I'll see how bad quarter levels

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<v Speaker 3>of cortisol are for you, and I'll report back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, doesn't everyone else feel like we just live

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<v Speaker 1>in this this medium level cortisole stress state all of

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<v Speaker 1>the time?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I hate it, Yeah, absolutely, And I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that like so easy to blame things on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think when you're constantly in that state where

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<v Speaker 3>you're scrolling, you're being stimulated, it's really hard to find,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that state where your brain can actually switch off,

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's so easy to be in that constant

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<v Speaker 3>stress state.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, well, I want to talk about something that perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>might help you well get into the rest and digest state,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's essential oils.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you use the holy Oh I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm essential oil with Jason. I'm just like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>hugely into the smell of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I kind of dabble here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>but and I often want to do that actually work?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like the idea of them, yes, we do. Well, No,

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<v Speaker 4>I love the idea exactly. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw a new systematic review pop up about

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<v Speaker 1>essential oils and I went into a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive and I have to share, well what it

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<v Speaker 1>found really because I'm a bit lucky. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>want to use it. Well, I'd like to use them,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Do they actually work? Is it worth my while?

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<v Speaker 1>And I've actually seen some products, beauty products specifically, popping

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<v Speaker 1>up with different types of oils, things like rosemary oil

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<v Speaker 1>for hair growth, coriander in face oil, black human seed

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<v Speaker 1>oil for skin.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, oh yes, yeah, have you seen these things?

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely?

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<v Speaker 3>And we all of the ASoP is it parsley seed oil? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>well that's another lovely yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean we all know that essential oils

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<v Speaker 1>have been around for well hundreds and thousands of years,

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<v Speaker 1>if not millennia, and you know they're used in healing

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<v Speaker 1>and bathing rituals across many cultures, so we all know

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<v Speaker 1>anecdotally they can work. You put some but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>essential oils in your bath and you feel amazing. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's certain oils that have been studied extensively as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're things like pepmine oil for ibs, lavender for sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>But this new review actually looked at a specific bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of essential oils that perhaps we haven't heard that much about,

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<v Speaker 1>only on products coming out, things like lemon, orange, cuman, cinnamon, coriander, rosemary.

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<v Speaker 2>Thyme, and parsley.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting what it found. So basically as this I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even s that word systematic, well a system review

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<v Speaker 1>just to give you, you know, remind you what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mega review of all the studies. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been published in the journal frontiersy Medicine, and it

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<v Speaker 1>focused on the anti inflammatory effects the nutrisceutical God, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't be my ways ound there selling nutraceutical properties,

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<v Speaker 1>antioxidant and antibacterial activity of all of the essential oils

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<v Speaker 1>I just mentioned above, and the researchers looked at things

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<v Speaker 1>like present in your diet, their effect that whether they

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<v Speaker 1>actually can work on your health the most important active compounds. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the search was actually conducted in the pub Med database,

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<v Speaker 1>which is worth going into if you're into that, if

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<v Speaker 1>you geek out in science, and it looked the last

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years of publications around studies to do with these oils.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, it found that essential oils do have many

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<v Speaker 1>therapeutic benefits and they are beneficial to human health in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. However, these particular essential oils such as coriander, parsley, rosemary,

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<v Speaker 1>and thyme need more research so.

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<v Speaker 2>They Okay, they could have potential benefits.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that in air quotes and that comes to

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's actually verbatim from the study. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up, would you hold off on buying the rosemary

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<v Speaker 1>or shampoof for now?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe? Maybe not? We still don't know whether it actually works.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, this was a good deep dive for list.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, so maybe we put a hold on

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<v Speaker 3>how effective we think they are. But they can be

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<v Speaker 3>used still, just if you like a bit of self

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<v Speaker 3>care and you just like the smell of them and

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<v Speaker 3>they're a bit nice.

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<v Speaker 4>There's value in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, absolutely and actually interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I did come, I did do a few other looks

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<v Speaker 1>into other studies in the placebo effect of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>smelling essential oils and using them can actually can vouch

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot for the therapeutic benefits if that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you're using them for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the placebo effect is so interesting. I'm fascinated by

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<v Speaker 3>the power of the human mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly now, just quickly before we go, give us quick

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<v Speaker 1>rundown of most click story of the week.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a pretty grim one, I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The headline is penis cancer cases are surging around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>is why so if you didn't have spiked cordinal before

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<v Speaker 3>you will now apologies in advance, but this is important

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<v Speaker 3>health journalism. So according to an investigation by the BBC,

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<v Speaker 3>penis cancer is expected to surge a staggering seventy seven

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<v Speaker 3>percent in the next twenty six years. And I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy, like that's a huge jump. And just for

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<v Speaker 3>like comparison as well, cases in Germany alone increased by

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent between nineteen sixty one and twenty twelve, and

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<v Speaker 3>the UK has also seen a considerable spike, so there's

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<v Speaker 3>been a massive jump over the last Oh god, don't

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<v Speaker 3>make me do the math, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Like fifty one ish years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, fifty one ish years and it's going to continue

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<v Speaker 3>growing at an even higher rate. And Brazil is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the countries that has the highest rates of penis

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<v Speaker 3>cancer too, and doctors believe that low HPV vaccination rates

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<v Speaker 3>could be contributing to this interest. However, there are things

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<v Speaker 3>that you can do to lessen the rates and your

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<v Speaker 3>risk factors, which include not having unprotected sex and specifically

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<v Speaker 3>like making sure you're using condoms and you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>looking at your hygiene levels as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Good point, general health and wellness factors do play in Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>other doctors also say that an aging population is contributing

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<v Speaker 4>to these case numbers too, so have a read.

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<v Speaker 3>You can look at the actual data behind it on

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<v Speaker 3>body insol dot com dot au and stay vigilant people

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<v Speaker 3>do your self checks.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice reminder, howe, I think we'll leave it at that.

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