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Speaker 1: My old man and Terry's old man used to play

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. Look, there's not there's not many

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Speaker 2: I'll tosh you for it, head or tails well for everything. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he came home and d yeah, and Brad found him.

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Speaker 2: worst actor a lot. He was sitting on a stool

433
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: reciting poetry while the boys through eg face and he won.

434
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: And she was a ship shot but tomatoes and the exit,

435
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: but it was mad set up. We got I think

436
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 1: you won some cash prize and it and the whole

437
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: fam We've got to go on the fade or Shelley up.

438
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: And was this Russian cruise ship round when I mad

439
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: a holiday but it was raw, it was a.

440
00:21:52,840 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: Rw You're a great playing right, mate like Tigers, Roosters, Warriors, Wakefield, Trinity, Warrington,

441
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: some of the characters like you know you went into

442
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 2: that Tiger side. Yeah he had Benny and Blocker coach

443
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 2: by Alan Jones memories there are the Tigers.

444
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: My memories that the Tiers was good. Like I'm a

445
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: Souse junior. Originally I didn't get I had a bad

446
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: injury and I had to quit footy for a year,

447
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: so I never got I just played reserve go there

448
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: and never got to play first grade for the hours,

449
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: which would have been a dream come true for me.

450
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: So when I went back to try and play, so

451
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: I got can castle and I went blind. I was

452
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: in intensive care for forty eight hours, lost my sight

453
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: and I was pretty head. The brother was going mad, crying,

454
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: and they told you that I must have been maybe

455
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen. And I I used to get knocked out

456
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: quite a bit because I try and play about my way,

457
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: and I used to just get k and we obviously

458
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: we keep playing on. Then I can only see half

459
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: of everything. My vision would go all funny. But I

460
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: didn't want to come up with them and look like

461
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: I was cat, you know, so I just keep playing anyway,

462
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: one day knockdown, tackled Stephen Kearney and I picked him

463
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: up the dump because he remember he used to be

464
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: ruthless and the things that he would stay there and

465
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: the thing he was just really, oh yeah, ruthless, but

466
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: we're all ruthless then, like it was. It was a

467
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: different it was a different era like anything great like

468
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: And I tried to dump him and I picked him

469
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: up and our silly front Raiwer come over the top

470
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: and they both landed on the head and k was

471
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 1: it Campbelltown and I and I come off and they

472
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: did the concussion test and I got a better score

473
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: can cast than I did normal like, he's right to

474
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: go back and they sent me back on. And then

475
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: after the game, I had a shower that was a

476
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: Campbelltown me our men coming because you never missed the game.

477
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: And he come in he gas, you were right, and

478
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: I said I was walking out of the time. I said, yeah,

479
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'll stay here and get a drive

480
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: in with Slats Choice Slattery and Themados And and as

481
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: Dad was walking away, I turned to look at the

482
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: footy and everything just turned upside down. So something had

483
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: gone on my vision because your vision apparently reflects. It's

484
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: like a mirror. And then and everything was upside down.

485
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh fuck, So I said, Dad, you

486
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: better take me am. He took me home the drive aim.

487
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: I got worse, tried to have a laid down, lost

488
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: my sight. I was in the hospital for forty eight

489
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: hours or something. They told him. I looked. I think

490
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: he's got fluid on the brain. We're gonna have to

491
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: drill into his head and he might stay blind. He

492
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: might have astrake and go lost the plot. I could

493
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: hear him, but everything was all white, like looking at

494
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: that light. It was like dark. I could hear him

495
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: go mad, I gos come. He comes out just to

496
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: you do me the favor because well what anything again?

497
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: You have to pick me out a labrador pup, just

498
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot. And then like I was my sight

499
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: come back, but South didn't want me because I said, no,

500
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: you were written. So I went back. We grew up boxing,

501
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: so I went back and just did boxing, something safe.

502
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: But it was my release. You know. We always grew

503
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: up fighting with Dad, just doing everything. We learned everything

504
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: we could, so it was my release, you know. So

505
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: when I went when I went back, to see how

506
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 1: they wouldn't sign me. So I had to start off

507
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: from scratch. The Tigers start off in twenty ones, and

508
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: so that journey at the Tigers. Look I watched that

509
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: year when they won the Grand Final. I think I

510
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: was I was injured. Now they got back back Cameray

511
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: something like that, and I was thinking, fuck, I would

512
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: love to be back playing football. Then twelve months later,

513
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm playing first grade with Benny not spending Sero. Blocker

514
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: had finished, but block was always around his a legend block.

515
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: I love Blocker, Steve ed Mead, Johnny Elias, Marty Missile character,

516
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: Derek McVeigh.

517
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Newcastle boy.

518
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: And like that. That game they they took me to.

519
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: There's a casino Leegal casino and like her Yeah yeah.

520
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: So I'm like twenty years old. I'm in a casino

521
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: with illegal casino with Johnny Olias, who I was Johnny

522
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Lais's ball boy when I was tense. So he's like

523
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: a brother with Johnny Elias, paulsa and Steve Edmund, Marty Massala.

524
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: Probably Benny might have been there. And I'm playing in

525
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: an illegal casino with these blokes. I've watched in the

526
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Grand Final, the year before. Just it was just so

527
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, how mad is this? And they were

528
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: just the best blakes. The things that they would do

529
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: and the way they they taught me about being a

530
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: football they know, so it was just unbelievable experience.

531
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: And then you know, well, I remember you Blakes. I

532
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: remember Naddy. We spoke about this at Aaron Nables. Wait,

533
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: we're having a chat. I remember at that time, the

534
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: Raiders were the team the greenmy team, I remember, the

535
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: Green Machine, and they played you blakes. You just played

536
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: in Canberra. They're beaten something like thirty two mill at

537
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: half time and you just und up beating them by

538
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: thirty six thirty two.

539
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: You know.

540
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: We had a draw with him, had to draw.

541
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: It was my debut and siro was captain right and

542
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: Siroh's got a bad stutter and I don't know how

543
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: his captain because they caught and he go, fu, are

544
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: you captain to get the toss right? And what the

545
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: So we played and it was thirty two Nework and

546
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: like I was, there was star starded team, a Green Machine,

547
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: and I remember my first tagle was Melvin Inger. I

548
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: was telling you this before and I ran up and

549
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: I was like seventy two. Kirls had a head year

550
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: on and he parted me, and he parted me. I

551
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: flew about five moons into our into our background. Bernie

552
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: Carrolling his name wasn't it? And I injured him on

553
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: the impact of first tag and I got half time

554
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: and just before half time and they'd scored again and

555
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: cereals like poisoning and let's just let's just make this respectful.

556
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: And I was just fired up and I was like,

557
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: fuck that, let's just beat these and everyone was like

558
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: and we come out and we had a thirty two

559
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: draw and it was it was my brother and the

560
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: main spread of the back page was wood on Fire.

561
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: The things that used to go on at that trailing

562
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: was this and that. That's the things you miss most

563
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: when you when you retired. Ship goes on then.

564
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: You Blake's had some some of those Blakes like Johnny

565
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: is just something. The greatest story Chucks.

566
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: Because then you go onto the Chucks and you're with

567
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: Gusts and one of Matthew's work colleagues, Brian Fletcher, I

568
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: imagine you you.

569
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Yes, when we went to the Chucks. So Freddy was there, Rico,

570
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Lammy Andrew Walker who else Many Many was Many was

571
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: younger than he was. Like coming through Scotty.

572
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: There was a little gurgostan now.

573
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Shame were there was. It was just a mad side.

574
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: Nigel Gaffy it sounds like a million years ago then

575
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: and Fletch he's younger than me and he was like

576
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: in the reserve round he's a gun and we just

577
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: we just hit it off straight away, like he's he's

578
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: a funny man, is the funny man. But you know,

579
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: you know when you get two clowns together that just

580
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: run off each other. So we just blokes would get

581
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: upset if they were injured missing training because they think

582
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: we're going to miss out on play tricks on people.

583
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: I'd go and break into people's houses and scare and

584
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Fletter do this and it's just it was just mad,

585
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, the things we used to get away with

586
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: back then, like you just can't you can't go.

587
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: He got kicked out of the trucks twice. The second

588
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: there was one bad one. There was some sort of

589
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: party and I keeped happy. The other one was that

590
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: there after the game there was a presentation. Anyway, all

591
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: the three grades are up, but you know when you

592
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: back in the day when you had twenty one to reserve.

593
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: Great first got it was a really big thing with

594
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: three grades one really prestigious. So let's said. The whole

595
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: club are up on the stage celebrating club championship three

596
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: three three from three on the day anyway, the Masscot

597
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: cut up. Rocky the Rooster was dancing. Fletchcas Hey boys

598
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: watched this anyway, shoulder charge Rocky the Rooster off the

599
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: off the stage. Rocky the Rooster hit and broke his leg.

600
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: So anyway, Nick Hawais and Arthur Boots and cool fletch

601
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: in and Arthur said, made us a funny thing I've

602
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: ever fucking seen. But you're cut from the club.

603
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: We went to Athton. We used to do all these

604
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: dick tricks. I had like twenty four dick tricks before

605
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: I remember the puppetry of the planis yeah, yeah, before them.

606
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: I used to have all these dictries, the wrist watch

607
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: and knuckle dusters.

608
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 3: All these and what just give us one of them.

609
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: The knuckle dust is in he put it out between

610
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: them like you put it over your knuckles like your

611
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: knuckle dusters. The wrist watch, obviously, the wristwatch trampoline, the trampoloone.

612
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: You said, bounce your mort on your chickens. Obviously there's

613
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: eve of them right anyway, So I used to just

614
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: do them the train and every go do your dick tricks,

615
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: the dit tricks, and I used to. I used to

616
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: get a plastic bag, put it in your head and

617
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: put ray bends on it. I was called the Phantom, right,

618
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: It was just just entertain the boys. We go and

619
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: play at Affton and I did my ankle or something

620
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: and everyone was on the piss and I went to

621
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: bed early and and Bets was looking after us. He

622
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: took us a late accident. So I'm dead to the

623
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: world and Shawney Garlic and Fletch pang on the door.

624
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Panom fanom fucking fandom. So I wake up and they go,

625
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: we're on the drink that we had this huge They

626
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: had this huge like a room full of pool tables

627
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: and it was old Bush like pub. Yeah yeah, and

628
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: they go, get the Fantom up. I was like, what

629
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: they get? We wanted the fandom. So we had this

630
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: side whoever we played against, and all these bushes. We're

631
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: in this it was like sixty people changed in this room.

632
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I go, right, so get this place of baby. We

633
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: got a place of baby somewhere. Put them and put

634
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: the ray beads on. I get this big blanket and

635
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: they go out with Fletch and Shawnee Garlic introduced me

636
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: like rock and roll wrestling, entering the ring at this

637
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: time of parts of bullshit, bullshit. So I come out,

638
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: I get writing character in the nude with the blanket

639
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: on me and and I come out and they did

640
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: this mad intrail. So I just walk around the room

641
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: like the fucking poor. All these bushes are there. They

642
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: just got into the stair on the piston. First graders.

643
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: They're loving it. And I walk around and look at him,

644
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: go to the next one, bump them, and I draw

645
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: a lap around the room and Fletcher's talk and ship

646
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: and I get to the door and then I just

647
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: dropped the blanket and Fletch goes the wristwatch cheer and

648
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: Dave Manson, Yeah he's there. He gets a start and

649
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: he's there and he's blind, and I'm just going mad.

650
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: And then I go over and I was standing on

651
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: the stool some bush like the wrist, watching his face

652
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: and it went go to bed. The next week, we

653
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: play the first game at wherever footy stadium, Manson's referee,

654
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: He's gone, get Onside, get Phantom.

655
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: I use a great blake.

656
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: I find it so funny that there's at every single

657
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 4: club all of all of these things, like the penis inspections.

658
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: All of the clubs from the nineties, just everybody had

659
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: one nat Wood who was doing it, Like I remember

660
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: Melbourne Storm had Danny Williams.

661
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: Daniel Williams said he used to. That was their thing.

662
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: They used to get all the all the blokes in

663
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: the pool and he'd start down the other end and

664
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: put goggles on and he'd dive from the other end

665
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: swan dive and he'd go underwater doing the breaststroke and

666
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: with the goggles on and one by one would just

667
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: inspect everyone and then he'd maneuver them from one to ten,

668
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: from best penis to worst peanus in the pool.

669
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: I went to Barley, first time ever been to BARLEI

670
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: I went to Barley and Danny Williams was there. It

671
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: was we started working for a maide of mine that

672
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: had his Todd Jason Jacson. So I love that and

673
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: I looked them. There's Danny WIRs. I loved Daddy Wheels

674
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: because he's just mad. We played against Joe, but you

675
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: never got on the piss and usually we all we

676
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: all get have a night out on the piss. And

677
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: I see him and okay, Danny Williams, he goes, Naddy

678
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: would Okay, that's this fucking really goes. I've been dying

679
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: to have a night on right, you know how mad

680
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: he is. And everyone in the group there's only they're

681
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: all on edge, just got mad. Grab her talking and

682
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: then there was a vase. It was pumping out water,

683
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, like there's and I got to him. Do

684
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: you know about who DEENI? And he goes, who Denie? Yeah,

685
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: I want to pretend that I'm Who Denie in a

686
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: straight jacket and you get me by the eagles and

687
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: lower me into that vase and I'll escape. And he goes,

688
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: what the boys who dares? Who reckons? I can escape

689
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: from the vase, And everyone's going, don't do it, don't

690
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: and he's going to do it. Do it, do it?

691
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Make sure you can. So you get me above this thing.

692
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: And he gets the because he goes and put me

693
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: in it. My head goes that far into it. But

694
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: there's a there's a fountain that I think you could

695
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: lower me all the way down, just jamms me in

696
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: it my head. Just get on this spiky fucking fountain.

697
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Its pumping out of the water, and I was like,

698
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: he's trying to jam me into the fucking VARs. Obviously

699
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: I didn't escape. We were trying to do. That was

700
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: my first encounter with legend.

701
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: Before we talk about the Bostom Cree Garth and talk

702
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: about with the Contender and Choker. After you go to

703
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: the Warriors, Naddy, you've got to tell us, You've got

704
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: to tell us the nice cleary story.

705
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so the Warriors, Like I went to the Warrior's single.

706
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: I'd broken up with my wife at the time and

707
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: my two boys. I went there single and I lived

708
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: with Richie Villasini and Justin Murphy, and I just used

709
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: to get fucking bored. So I just go around Like

710
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: every club I went to, I just used to break

711
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: into people's houses, hide under their bed while they was

712
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: jump out on them and their missus or do something.

713
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: I just started going around scaring everybody. And then me

714
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: and I haven't played together at the Roosters, saying I

715
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: haven't back of the best, and we used to just

716
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: go there for dinners. We went there for dinner. One

717
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: night we were on the piss and it was time

718
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: to leave. And when we left, missus Max wife was

719
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: driving down the drive and I just jumped out and said,

720
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: I'll see you home. And I went back and climbed

721
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: up his up his side thing to get into his bedroom.

722
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: We're getting that's like eleven o'clock at night. I hide

723
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: in the cover. I think I'll just wait to it

724
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: till live and get back, get into bed, and I'll

725
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: jump on him in the mid of the night for

726
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: rages on cramp and I can't say too long, thinking

727
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: how can I get him to come upstairs and downstairs?

728
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: So get out of the wardrobe and I turned the

729
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: alarm clock full board to the radio. Just goes. I

730
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: jump back in the closet and I'm hiding in the closet.

731
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: I heard up the stairs. Someone's come up the stairs

732
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: in the room. Turn the radio. I just jump and

733
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: it's poor Natty. It's like three. He just goes, no, no, no,

734
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: He runs the other stairs over, runs up the stairs.

735
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: What the is going on? So I scouting the poor

736
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: little boat.

737
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: But already slept for the next ten years.

738
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, we had Nathan and and he told us

739
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 4: his perspective of that, and he still remembers it pretty vividly.

740
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very fucking scared.

741
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: Now, Garthie, you like terrific rugby league, playing your own right,

742
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: but made boxing. I remember it like that. That showed

743
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: the out of the contender. It was a big thing

744
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: in the States and it came. So what made you

745
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: ander into it?

746
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: Mate? I got a phone call from Johnny Lewis a light.

747
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: At that same time, everyone goes through breakups. Football career

748
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: had finished. I was more or less m I A.

749
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: I was doing it hard because I just didn't the

750
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: man who was gone, missus left me, didn't have a

751
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: job forty and wasn't playing footy no more. And I

752
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: was off and gone, and everyone was worried about me.

753
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: Mum and dad especially Johnny knew what I was doing,

754
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: or if you saw what he did. I was getting

755
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: up to some ship anyway. He wrung me out of

756
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: the blue. What's doing? I said, good, John? Now are

757
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: you guys? Mate? And fucking lie to me? I said, well,

758
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: he guys, it's a serious fucking question. How are you?

759
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: I said, fucked up? You guess? Well, maybe we can

760
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: turn all that around. You know you guys, you know

761
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: that boxing show, Remember the Contender? They did that and

762
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: a stillined one in America. I said, yeah, you guys,

763
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: well Shennon Taylor's pulled out. The thing is, can you

764
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: went up? But they've asked me, didn't know anyone. I said, yeah,

765
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: for sure you because I already I've had two profiles

766
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: or three profiles before. And I said, mate, I'd love

767
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: to get and he says, well, you have got three

768
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: days notice. And I've been benting and I can run

769
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: on a mark for eight a months, so there's more

770
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: rehab with than anything for me. And I went, all right,

771
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: just let me go home and ask mom and dad

772
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: what they can do because I was still having the

773
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: girls every second weekend. Come home. Dad went, you fucking idiot,

774
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: You're going to kill yourself. You can end up in

775
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: fucking hospital. I don't think I don't know what you're

776
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: fucking been doing. There was five top ten boxes in

777
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: the world, Nada Hampton Careers, Karaoke, Victor Roganoff and a

778
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: couple of other two blokes and he has, mate, They're

779
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: going to fucking Murdy. You haven't been training. I haven't

780
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: do this, he goes fuck off. That's how that is

781
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: straight to the point. I went in there and Mom,

782
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: I said, Mom, you gotta do something. Can you smooth

783
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: your ma? Have? I said, this is my chance to

784
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: turn my life around. I said, I'll kill this. I said,

785
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: I'll switch on. I'll go straight in there. You know,

786
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: more or less, more like you believe you can do

787
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: anything when you're that age, I can do it. Well.

788
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Early one was someone to believe in me, and Johnny

789
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: did that, and he made a phone call. Anyway, I'm

790
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: going to thank my mum given his Mother's Day. She

791
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: she did whatever she had to do to get it

792
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: over line. But the next night then next day said mate,

793
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: all right, I'll let you go. So I was still

794
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: twenty eight at the time, so I had to get

795
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: the word from that. That's how dominant ear is in

796
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: our life. So he said, yeah, all right, sweet. So

797
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: I told him Fox come and picked me up within

798
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: two days, and I looked like a bad piss head.

799
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I've been on the drink hard walked in the Contender,

800
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: And from the moment I stepped in the Contender, I

801
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: just transformed my whole mental state manifesting because I played

802
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: four thirty first grade games. But all I wanted I

803
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: want to do is a kid was playing a roll

804
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: just like Dad Matt. We had a pool table room

805
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: with little black and whites, Pauly Hayward, Dad Chicken or

806
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: Ronnie Court, and I'd see all these blakes, Ronnie cut

807
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: and mackas I just wanted to be an NROL player.

808
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I used to sleep in my football clothes, thinking that

809
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: will give me special powers to play in and I paid,

810
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: but not to where I wanted to get to. So

811
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: I had a lot of this, you know, being a

812
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: young blake. Wanted to prove yourself, you goo, I want

813
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: to be someone. So I thought, this is it. I'm

814
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: going to really win this show and show people that

815
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you beat yourself up, worst critic,

816
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm worthy on someone. But I went in there not

817
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: knowing just what I was up against. But the talent

818
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: of boxer that we're in there, they were pretty good. No,

819
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: I was still a novice, and you can tell from

820
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: my style. I went in there and it was more

821
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: like a car park fight, the nightclub on a Saturday night,

822
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: a j teller and fucking Dolphin Street because but I

823
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: could punch, so I got.

824
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: To the what it was, what actually was for those

825
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: that sort of weren't around listening. What the contender itself,

826
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: What was the structure of the show, Like what did

827
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: you have to do to win?

828
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Well one in Australia stillin had one in America where

829
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: two blakes would fight at the end you'd be regarded

830
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: as the contender. But Couse Mundine was here and he

831
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: was the golden Boy, he was the prize. At the

832
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: end of it, there was fourteen of us. You win,

833
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: you stay on, you win, you stay on. I went

834
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: for eight weeks and they made a profile out. Everyone

835
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: was good. The public got behind it, watched the show Fox.

836
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: It was a ripper of a show. Yeah. So it's

837
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: like it goes on test too on the way through

838
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: your win to get points. I got in there the

839
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: first day and we had fitness tests and over at

840
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: home and away, you know, with the cliff and the

841
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: lighthouse wherever you now. It was like a you had

842
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: to remember a code each time you went up and

843
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: unlock a It was crazy, but you had to run

844
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: up the mountain, run up the sand was just and

845
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: that anyway, Not being a big d I flogged them,

846
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: smashed it out of the park. So I got two

847
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: weeks off, which was beautiful for me. So we're staying

848
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: at the ibis not allowed out because of the TV show.

849
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm breaking out, going down because I still was under

850
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: the pump going for long road runs and that was spiritual,

851
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: all in my eyes out thinking this is this is

852
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: fucking me. This is what I need to get my

853
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: life back on track. Me. Girls can see me crying.

854
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm going through depression. I'm going to win this and

855
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: it changed my life. But also Mundane was the prize

856
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: for whoever won the compe the tournament, so I won

857
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: it beat a bloke. It was an Olympian career is

858
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: karaoke who Everyone didn't give me a chance. I went

859
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: and did four weeks prep in Vegas fighting Blake. He sketcheder.

860
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: He's sort of caliber. And from the first actual fight

861
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: that I had, which was a war, it was like

862
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: a car park fight, and to what I transformed to

863
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: do you want to win that final, I was like

864
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: a season pro. I was slipping, punching, catching punches and

865
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: I won unanimously and moved on to Monday. And the

866
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: worst thing they ever did Monday was give me at

867
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: least another eight months to just keep transforming and improving,

868
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: because they should have jumped on me then because I

869
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: was still a bit raw still and novice. But eight months.

870
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 2: So once you won it, you still your eight months.

871
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still had to prop it up and make

872
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: it what it was, and they wanted their money back

873
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: like they do, you know, given pay per view and

874
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: all this. But I did prep with Fanic. We went

875
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: to Thailand, same thing, got in a little ring that

876
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: was like a phone booth, so I'd throw a thousand

877
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: punches and I was fitted, not being a big notor,

878
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: but my engine was like my ace up my sleeve.

879
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I had skills, but I was regarded the fittest

880
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: in rugby league when I played drug Belief for that

881
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: short time and then when I got going to boxing,

882
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: running doing all these different specific training with Fanic and

883
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: that he didn't see the chance because obviously Mundine was

884
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: a free time world champion. Not meaning to talk mostly

885
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: about it, but it's all mine. The boxing game is

886
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: ninety percent in the head. You know. If I'm in

887
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: the ring and I'm fighting someone, all of a sudden,

888
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: all I take a punch and then I start thinking, well,

889
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: he's got me here. Definitely, I'll bring to the life

890
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: where if I'm on top of him and a feeling

891
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: slipping away and I think I'm knock this bloke out.

892
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: That's how Johnny would say to us as a kid,

893
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: shn Son, the thing between your two ears is the

894
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: sharpest tool in the house. Nice to think, did you

895
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: talk about it because I was young? Is he talking

896
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: about that? That you find out yourself? But then when

897
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: you get in the ring, you find out this is

898
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: the main thing. You know what I mean?

899
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: Much in life as well, Drenkon, Like, of course chop

900
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: knew you to to like so well, and you knew

901
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: him so well. Drenkon, that unnerved him for sure.

902
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: I psyched him big time. If you get on the

903
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: there's a thing on face facebook face off wood in

904
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: Mundane and I'm more or less rape him, just furthering

905
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: him there and that that's when he went and all

906
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: the boys that grew up with us, where's all the

907
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: blakes from Redford? They pulled him up. Darren call Well,

908
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: they said, mate, don't take half lightly, don't underestimate him.

909
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: He's a fucking fruit and he's fit, he can punch,

910
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, and then when we got

911
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: the verbal and press conferences and that that's when he went, fuck.

912
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: You can see in his face what I because you

913
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't just going to be a walkover. Don't

914
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: knew the Wood family and the Monday family we're all tight.

915
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: We're all from the same area, the same area. Yeah.

916
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like when you play when you play game,

917
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: like everyone knows when you that opening set of six,

918
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: when you're playing rugby league, you know it's going to

919
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: be a tough day or we've got these blakes. So

920
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: were boxing when that I remember that fight that night,

921
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: like straight away in the early exchanges, did you think

922
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: I've got him here?

923
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: I knew my punching power because he'd been whispering everyone

924
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: else all because they tried to run. They're fucked. He

925
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: ring up. They've tried to rope the dope. They made

926
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: the fucking ropes like this and bouncing off. So take

927
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: my way, my power. I don't know what they thought

928
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: played into my hand because that's where I knocked him

929
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: out on the rapes because he got caught up and

930
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: I didn't mean Fanny had this prep the whole thing

931
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: over here and right left rip and the body. He said, oh,

932
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: he's weakened the body game, attack his body. When I

933
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: did that, he went to run. He got suck in

934
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: the corner over here and right left bomb And then

935
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: I knew for that fact that it was scared of me.

936
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: He didn't want to get anywhere near me because if

937
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: I unloaded, he's a bit unsure of himself. He could

938
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: handle it. But yeah, they did a lot of holding

939
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: up until the fourth round referee started warning no more

940
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: holding them holding, and when I got the front, let

941
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: my hands go. That's when I clipped him.

942
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: And I was say, later, Natty, for you, is that

943
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: in terms of your life?

944
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: Is that not? Yeah? Yeah, for sure. It makes me

945
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: emotional to talk about it because he was off the rails,

946
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: gone and we're all worried that he was going to

947
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: do something stupid do himself. So it was like when

948
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: I want to listen to him talk like, he brings

949
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: out emotions in me. So it was good. I knew

950
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: he would win, and I had to blow up with

951
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: Dad because Dad was worried that he's gonna get hurt,

952
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: and I said him be I said, listen, he'll win

953
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: the fucking thing. And he goes like what I said,

954
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: he'll win and he's like, you've lost the plot. I said,

955
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: all right. Uh So when he got to fight Chop,

956
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: he was like five dollars fifty with one of the

957
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: betty agents and we had that. They had that press

958
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: conference in that until I went up to one of

959
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: the betting best bets, I don't know which, when I

960
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: was someone that I didn't ask with. I said, they're

961
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: all there because you get bet on. And I said,

962
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: what price to you, brother? And they get five fifty.

963
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: I was like, years a fucking cowards. He's got a

964
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: bit at least six bucks. They go all right, we'll

965
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: give you six bucks. And I said, I have six

966
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: thousand on it, and they went all right. So I

967
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: put six thousand on him at six bucks. So then

968
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: we got the bet on. He won and when he

969
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: when he dropped Chock and I'm good, Matre Chock and

970
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of respect for Chok. We grew

971
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: ure planning against each other and that what he did

972
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: is brilliant and he looks after a lot of family members.

973
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: But all the heat and brought the the bad person

974
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: in us that can come out. They want to kill you,

975
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: so when gar dropped him, I was like, if you

976
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: have a look at the video, I'm right near where

977
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: Chock's head is and I'm slapping the campus guard sucked

978
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: in yep, no, no, no, and they started counting him

979
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: out and I lost count of the camp but I

980
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: could see he was gone, so I started getting in

981
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: the ring to celebrate, and Billy Hasseyn and Jeffy like

982
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: natty stop stop. I was like, shut up, he's gone.

983
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: I stopped, and the red finished his count luckily, and

984
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: then I the garf runs across the ring and jumps,

985
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: and then I jump in and pick him up. But

986
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: if I would have got in sooner before the count,

987
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: before the count, he would have been disqualified. So I

988
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: woul could have sucked it up for it, but I

989
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: ended up. But I ended up winning thirty six grand

990
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: and whoever it was took two weeks to pay me.

991
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: I shouted everyone out all night. I was just I

992
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: went through that much cash.

993
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: I walked.

994
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: I walked out of some join at the cross whatever.

995
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: It was daytime, and I had no shirt on and

996
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: took me a churn in. I had no money left

997
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: and I had to walk to me mum's at Stean Moore.

998
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: So just put my hands behind me back and I

999
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: was I was taken, you know when you got the

1000
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 1: line in the concrete. I was taken like one meter step.

1001
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: And Jimmy Smith got his radio and someone read Jimmy

1002
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: Smith and said, I'll tell you what was a great wind?

1003
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: Bow Garth would last night, But I think his brother's

1004
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: got the three points. I just seen it walking down

1005
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: Oxford Street like Ben Cousins, what about Like I remember

1006
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: that night.

1007
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: It was the after party. It was madness and success

1008
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: and particularly success in boxing. It can be tricky, you know,

1009
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: because you know the people are the tracks. How was

1010
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: that straight after it? How much did your life change

1011
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: after that?

1012
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: Like we said, we come out of dream Girls, which

1013
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: is Man's it's about to be a hub. I left

1014
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: the back part of it the cake of Colinis. Blake

1015
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: was hand dropping off cake comments and they went fucking

1016
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: hell that's the guy. God, God, how are you man them?

1017
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: Like then everywhere I walked, Hey God, how it was

1018
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: it surreal? It was crazy? But yeah, it was good

1019
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: to know that they appreciate what I've done there.

1020
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: How did that effect?

1021
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: Obviously you were like off the rails before you kind

1022
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: of went onto the contender. How did then a sudden

1023
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: like everybody like you blew up obviously beating shop mundane?

1024
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: How did that affect you?

1025
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: Like I love? I always wanted to be a professional athlete. Yeah, yeah,

1026
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: I love the lifestyle of boxing. Given all right, we're

1027
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna fight six weeks, got to make this way, got

1028
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: to eat right, got to train routine. I also lost

1029
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: all that. But we've always been like it's beening still

1030
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: in the house while I left school, got asked to leave,

1031
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: and I'm advised to be on the couch, and I

1032
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: am Dad. Dad would walk in. You always had the

1033
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: grouse shops working for a transport company. Ipeck. It might

1034
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: have been comment, come in whenever you want to job.

1035
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: Some laying on the lounge watching TV. Board me'd walk

1036
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: in and get the fuck are you doing? Get off

1037
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: the fucking lune, go and walk down the street asking

1038
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: into the job. Get the fucking bum When do you

1039
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: think you're doing? Do this or that? Right? And then

1040
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: during the day orso he saw me training, Am you done?

1041
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: What are you mentioning the door when you're on the

1042
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: lounge you want to fly? You walked in the door

1043
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: when you're doing bench and watching in.

1044
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1045
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: Just I just yeah, I always wanted to be a

1046
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: professional athlete. And I find that the whole routine and

1047
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: the training and the spar the competing is good, but

1048
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: that lifestyle, I just it's you're untouchable, you know, and

1049
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: you just it's all up here. And I manifested that

1050
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: much to beat Monday. And I read some good books

1051
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: and I had this montage on the war. And because

1052
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: I was a rough house or not rough, because I

1053
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: was raw and I was a novice. I put all

1054
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: the boxes that I realized as a kid, and I

1055
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: wanted the meaning what I wanted to wake up in

1056
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: the morning, want to see on the wall, because I

1057
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: want a bit of sugar ray speed. I wanted some

1058
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: of Mike Tyson's power. So this is my mind manifesting

1059
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: the assassin that I wanted was to take myself to be.

1060
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: And then I had Monday knockdown, because you're beat by

1061
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: Key was before knock that I had me pitch it

1062
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: up standing over above him. So I was manifesting I'm

1063
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: going to knock him out and to beat him and

1064
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: get in the ring and transformed to the raw fighter

1065
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: that I am. I read a book called maximum treatment

1066
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: was but similar to the secret and that, and I

1067
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: really took it in at school. Didn't want to read

1068
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: a book, we wantn't touch it, this and that and

1069
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: only rock up sports stays for school because I always

1070
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: knew that Dad said he did. I wasn't dummy, but

1071
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: I just didn't didn't attract myself to put my head

1072
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: down and writing out the books and this and that.

1073
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: I was always sporty, athletics and that. So that's probably

1074
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: why Dad goes, what are you doing on my lounge? Trained?

1075
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: So if you saw a train, it had faithored me

1076
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: to do something in sports, well sporting world. So, uh,

1077
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: this is the manifesting manifesting everything. I'm pretty good that

1078
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: if you tell me I can't do something, I'll go

1079
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: out and prove you wrong. Yeah. So I got that

1080
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: one from the public. And that's what brilliantstilled me turn

1081
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: my life.

1082
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: How do you like that? I mean, all of us

1083
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: with sport. When you when you're finishing sport, certainly lose

1084
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: a whole. How do you how do you? How do

1085
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: you keep on top of yourself?

1086
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: Now? I play scrabble a lot, I mean that bingo

1087
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: every Thursday. How's you yeah, I train a job a

1088
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: bit like bous Gump. It just fields the good from

1089
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: the bad. I need to just let something out. I've

1090
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: got a good job now, I'm working pretty long hours,

1091
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: but I'm still going to have to squeeze training sessions

1092
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: into it because otherwise I'll be hot tempered, prick around

1093
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: the house. So I think training plays a big part

1094
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: in my mental state, and I miss it. Sometimes I

1095
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: don't watch the box anymore because then I'm never going

1096
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: to come back and out of retirement. But uh, sometimes

1097
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: I tend to stay away from watching because you just

1098
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: get a bit soft and you think I was back there.

1099
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: But I still appreciate what's going on now in the

1100
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: boxing game and the footy. I love footy to death.

1101
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: But he was my main love I wanted to be.

1102
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: I was just like my dad and my brother. I

1103
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: just idolized them.

1104
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: You but two, your blokes are fucking clever, very very clever,

1105
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: like Natty we recently. I mean I know you paint

1106
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: draw had a crack but made.

1107
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: A bad relationship and it was my my escape better

1108
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: than my other escapes.

1109
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: Like we won't have it, Like we're going to do

1110
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: something in a minute, surprise for YouTube blokes with the

1111
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: hit box. I mean, as far as fitness is soent

1112
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: that that honestly is one of the smartest inventions that

1113
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.

1114
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: Thanks made. I invented that. Originally invented that probably eleven

1115
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: years ago when I was in a bad space and

1116
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: like I said, our training was in our boxing and

1117
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: Matguff used to spirito for an hour straight, you know,

1118
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: just to re loase the demons in it. So I

1119
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: invented this thing. It was regally called the punch box.

1120
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: It's just a just a warm amount of punching, but

1121
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: that survived. Used to count your punches. I remember I

1122
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: got my eldest boy to teach me how to sold

1123
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: her and I went to j car and I got

1124
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: some some soldering iron and some senses and put it

1125
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 1: on this upper cut and hook bag at my dad's

1126
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: that we used to Guff used to train on for

1127
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: our medicine. And I've got people count, you know, you

1128
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: count people. And I wired it all up and your

1129
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: dad came out and guess what the fuck are you doing?

1130
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm reinventing the punching bags, right, because

1131
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm always like inventing stuff. Creative, and I ended up

1132
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: inventing this thing that now I've got to a point

1133
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: now where we're just trying to get an ambassador. We're

1134
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: talking to a couple of people of Ambassador and launch

1135
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: it with the skool kids, and you can train at

1136
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: home with it and whatnot. You can run competitions and

1137
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: let's say you've got one and you're in the US

1138
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: and I'm in Sydney, we can we can compete against

1139
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: each other live and it will capture your heart rate,

1140
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: your your calories, burnt your punches, but you can. It's live,

1141
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: so it's like a FaceTime call. Like let's say, for instance,

1142
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: me brothers down in the dump, so I can message

1143
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: him on it and say I want to challenge me

1144
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: at six am, get up. We'll do a workout together.

1145
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: So it helps for me. I like to think that

1146
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: for me and Garfer's, our training was our escape from

1147
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: all the demons that we've got. And I've got heach

1148
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: of mates that are recovering alcoholics, junkies, whatever, and they

1149
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: like to train. So I've just made it now so

1150
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: that anyone that gets a hip box, you just put

1151
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: it on your wall, you join the like there'll be

1152
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: a hip box sort of club, and you can just

1153
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: train with mates, train with anybody. Kids can compete against

1154
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: each other. So I get the ambassador that we're trying

1155
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: to get. There's workouts on the tablet that it comes with,

1156
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: so i'd just like to get I've got four boys,

1157
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: they've all grown up. I've got twenty nine to twenty five,

1158
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: eight and two, but we've all grown up training and

1159
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: I know how important it is to stay focused and train.

1160
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: So I just created this thing that hopefully it becomes

1161
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: very successful. I'm talking to one hundred and fifty five

1162
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: schools at the moment that are looking to possibly put

1163
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: it on the wall in their gym so that the

1164
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: kids can train on at the schools and if they

1165
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: want to go further they can they can get it

1166
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: and train at home and compete against each other because

1167
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: we'll be making challenges that your kids fit and switched

1168
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: on and you know something like that. So the hip Box,

1169
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: that's my little project that I've been doing on the

1170
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: side for me and hopefully blossoms into something.

1171
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: We'll tell you what, Naddy, Let's go over a crack.

1172
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: We'll see these these blakes. One thing as you get

1173
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: past fifty the young Lions. I think that they run

1174
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: the pride.

1175
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: Well I don't. I'm happy you've just being sitting in

1176
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: the back of the path.

1177
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: Well, let's go and see what you got.

1178
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah right, thank you for coming over. Lots of good stories.

1179
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 2: Let's going to have a crack at the hip box.

1180
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: Let's go, you two, Jack you're on man. Well, geez,

1181
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: you really love that jumper, don't you. You took it

1182
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: off when the boys arrived and you put it straight

1183
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: back on their left.

1184
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: Well, it's because the air coon was put on during

1185
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: the interview and I got cold, and I thought, well

1186
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: and then I just got I got.

1187
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: I got stipp little steering during the interview, which is

1188
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: stiff nipples off. Did you that was good? They that

1189
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: was very funny, very good. You set the bar high

1190
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: at the start.

1191
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 4: You said they're great storytellers, and you've always said someone

1192
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: never set a bar too high when it comes to

1193
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: telling stories. You don't want everyone to have expectations. But geez,

1194
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: Naddy can spin a yarn.

1195
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: Gath great guy and great guy, And yes, I said,

1196
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: for a very successful boxer. Some people say that Naddy

1197
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: was a bit of fighter. I don't know about that.

1198
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: But the old man. The old Man's a champion Barry

1199
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: Wood again, like apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

1200
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: He's a great storyteller and a great character as well.

1201
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: Good work, Coeps. A little bit tired. What have you

1202
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: been doing? Man, It's like you've been you've swimmed through

1203
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: a river shit or something.

1204
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm just tired. Just yeah, I've just been

1205
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: working so hard.

1206
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: It must be so hard doing that sort of three

1207
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: hours a day. It must be you know. I just

1208
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: feel for you so much.

1209
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: It's just so like, yeah, it's just I think it's

1210
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: just draining.

1211
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: Like you know.

1212
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 3: Well, you're up there having sweet dreams in the middle

1213
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: of the night. I'm up. I'm not preparing for radio?

1214
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: What's that? What's that?

1215
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: Five?

1216
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: Six, seven, eight years? I did breakfast radio? Brother, you're

1217
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: about eight weeks.

1218
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 3: In okay, six months?

1219
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh my god, let me tear. The worst

1220
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: is yet to come.

1221
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: So you should know because now you don't do it.

1222
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: You don't do it because it broke you.

1223
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need to, brother.

1224
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: Well is that how is that? Is that a salary thing?

1225
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1226
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's not as a lifestyle choice. Okay, anyway,

1227
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: that'll do. It's good Ones Coops