Speaker 1: Yes, it is Show and Tell time. It is the
Speaker 1: time of.
Speaker 2: The week you listen to us talk. Hi, how's it going?
Speaker 1: Hi, it's Mail, It's Monty. Thanks for listening into our podcast.
Speaker 1: If you're new to the podcast, which I think there
Speaker 1: might be a few newies, which is exciting. Welcome and
Speaker 1: also to our longtime listeners, thank you for listening in
Speaker 1: as per usual. But Mail, let's kick off the pod
Speaker 1: with your random fat of the week.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, so I saw this on a
Speaker 2: clip on Instagram from a podcast called Wine About It.
Speaker 2: One of the girls was talking about this thing called
Speaker 2: a decidual cast. Have you ever heard of this ever?
Speaker 2: So what it is. It's very rare, but it happens.
Speaker 2: You know, a period is when you shed the line
Speaker 2: of your uterus. Yeah, right, And it happens over the
Speaker 2: course of a few days to a week or whatever.
Speaker 2: This is when the whole uterine lining sheds at once.
Speaker 2: Oh so it's just a one dayer. It's it's but
Speaker 2: it comes out literally like the shape of your uterus.
Speaker 2: The whole lining sheds in one piece. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic, like a hectic qlot like if you're up
Speaker 1: for it, if you dare google it.
Speaker 2: I did. It literally looks like a tongue, A tongue, yes,
Speaker 2: sort of like the shape of the uterus is almost
Speaker 2: like that, sort of I guess, triangle shape upside down,
Speaker 2: triangles out like that. Never ever knew about it either.
Speaker 2: I would love that.
Speaker 1: How brilliant to just get it over in one day, done,
Speaker 1: But you would have to just make sure you're home
Speaker 1: at that time. It would be brilliant if you knew. Okay,
Speaker 1: at two o'clock on this date, I'm going.
Speaker 2: To hop in the shower. Yeah, hopping the shower, blob out. Oh,
Speaker 2: maybe what I did?
Speaker 1: Feel like, I feel almost nice. It feel like you're
Speaker 1: after birth, like you know, once you've given birth and
Speaker 1: then your after birth comes out.
Speaker 2: I didn't like that bit. Well, it hurt because you
Speaker 2: were still.
Speaker 1: Having contractions, but I liked the feeling of it, like
Speaker 1: sliding out like a gush of meat. Hey, so last
Speaker 1: week I did the Imperfect podcast, Yes You did, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite podcasts with Ryan Shelton Hugh and Josh
Speaker 1: Van Kyle and Berg where they interview just I've mentioned
Speaker 1: it a million times and pointed people to the podcast
Speaker 1: a heap of times. But where they just talked to
Speaker 1: often experts or just people about their life. So I
Speaker 1: went on, oh my god, after I did it, I
Speaker 1: have never First of all, I was so nervous doing it.
Speaker 1: I've never had nerves like that in my whole life.
Speaker 1: Like Ryan's one of my great mates. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: pick up my glass of water on the table because
Speaker 1: my hands were shaking so much, so I had to
Speaker 1: have my hands under the desk.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I think it is. I think
Speaker 2: it's because you do TV and stuff and you're fine
Speaker 2: with that. I think it's you were going in knowing
Speaker 2: you were going to be vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Totally. I felt so vulnerable. And also, like on here,
Speaker 1: I talk about myself a lot, but in my job
Speaker 1: I'm interviewing other people, so it's never just talking about myself.
Speaker 1: When for an hour and a half we covered everything
Speaker 1: from my mum dying me telling my little boy about it,
Speaker 1: to my chronic illnesses to losing your job when I
Speaker 1: fell pregnant, Like, we covered.
Speaker 2: Everything, and they ask just the right questions, just.
Speaker 1: The right questions. Anyway, the feedback I got was so
Speaker 1: out of this world. I said to Sam, I get
Speaker 1: how celebrities feel when they're just bombarded with the most
Speaker 1: epic comments that you would get delusional.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I said to him, I said, I've got to be
Speaker 1: prepared because they just banged out the social clips over
Speaker 1: like four days. I said, I've got to be prepared
Speaker 1: when these comments finish, because I was so beautiful, like
Speaker 1: so many people saying how much they related, saying how
Speaker 1: brave I was, how amazing I was. And I said
Speaker 1: to Sam, this is addictive reading these comments. And I said,
Speaker 1: imagine you were like a maths contestant where you're as
Speaker 1: big as anything for the duration of the show, and
Speaker 1: then it all fucking stops. Like I get how it
Speaker 1: can mess.
Speaker 2: With your head. Well imagine also it going the opposite way,
Speaker 2: the cat sing and people saying, oh oh my god, Monty,
Speaker 2: like what that's so ship?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck you strain whatever, images like that. Oh So,
Speaker 1: because you do. I read them and they made me
Speaker 1: feel amazing. There wasn't one negative comment. It was such
Speaker 1: a beautiful space to share. But you're right, if they
Speaker 1: were negative comments, it would have sent me into a hole.
Speaker 1: Because human nature is you can't help but read things
Speaker 1: about you like you just can't. So I was on
Speaker 1: Instagram like an absolute fucking demon, just watching the numbers
Speaker 1: go up, watching the comments come in, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so beautiful, but I have to also have
Speaker 1: a grip on the fact that everyone writes that and
Speaker 1: then they move on where I'm like, oh, I'm excellent.
Speaker 2: No, But it's also just I think it probably would
Speaker 2: have made you feel good too, because it's all that
Speaker 2: feeling of being less alone.
Speaker 1: That's feeling Haunds down to a lot it is. I
Speaker 1: know that it sounds cheesy, but sharing what I did
Speaker 1: and feeling very vulnerable and I spoke very openly about
Speaker 1: my children and their neurodivergency, which connected hugely with so
Speaker 1: many people. It's a very isolating thing, and so to
Speaker 1: have an instant connection, even if it's just a message
Speaker 1: going I totally relate. I'm going through this as well.
Speaker 1: Like one of the people in the comments wrote, I
Speaker 1: feel like I've found my people in this comment section,
Speaker 1: and that got me because I was like, so many
Speaker 1: of us are doing things like even people writing about
Speaker 1: the grief of how lonely it is and isolating it is,
Speaker 1: and just knowing that you're not alone in those things
Speaker 1: can be really comforting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's easy to forget that other people are
Speaker 2: going through it when you're in it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when you're often just surviving, you're like everyone
Speaker 1: else around me is fucking thriving. Where this was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: everyone's got their shit, No one's thriving, No one's thriving,
Speaker 1: no one anyway. Going from helping people to the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: So I listened to Chloe Kardashian's got a new podcast
Speaker 1: and she had Courtney on last week. Late last week.
Speaker 1: Courtney does attachment parenting, where if you do that, who
Speaker 1: are to you? Like, kudos to you, that's amazing. I
Speaker 1: do detachment parenting where it's like you're out of the womb,
Speaker 1: You're on your fucking own.
Speaker 2: Now. No you don't, God, you'd make yourself out to
Speaker 2: be an No, I don't, but I very much.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a huge amount of patients.
Speaker 1: So just sitting with the kids or playing with the
Speaker 1: kids last about ten minutes where I'm like, Okay, I'm done.
Speaker 2: She her little boy.
Speaker 1: Naps for three hours a day, and she just sits
Speaker 1: in the chair and nurses him for his whole n
Speaker 1: app every day.
Speaker 2: That is a level of privilege.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The whole time she's talking, I was thinking.
Speaker 2: This is so privileged.
Speaker 1: Everything they're talking about was, of course naturally so unbelievably privileged.
Speaker 1: But to be able to sit there because of course
Speaker 1: she's she's got people cleaning her house and making her dinner.
Speaker 1: So to sit there with your baby for three hours,
Speaker 1: hands down privilege. But how fucking boring.
Speaker 2: I'm sure in that time she's maybe got the baby
Speaker 2: like this, and maybe she's checking emails, and oh she is.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you can't just be sitting there.
Speaker 2: She's got like.
Speaker 1: A frequency blanket on him. She's got something on her
Speaker 1: phone to science to stop the radiation of her phone
Speaker 1: going to him. She's really fucking right. And also she
Speaker 1: was saying how she goes against the grain with a
Speaker 1: lot of parenting stuff. She's like, I will nurse my
Speaker 1: kids when they have a fever. I won't give them
Speaker 1: tile andol or anything. I'm like, that's fucking mean, Like
Speaker 1: if the kid's in pain, you've got to give the
Speaker 1: kid pan at all.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't want to sound defensive when I
Speaker 2: say this, it's just not understanding or relating to, for example,
Speaker 2: people who were Jehovah's witnesses who don't believe in sort
Speaker 2: of blood transfusions and stuff. So if their loved one
Speaker 2: is in a car accident, for example, and the doctors
Speaker 2: say they need a blood transfusion, the idea is God
Speaker 2: is going to take care of them.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, I think same as scientologists. Remember there was
Speaker 1: something Tom Cruise didn't approve of. Was it Kirsty Ally
Speaker 1: or somebody had to have a blood transfusion or something,
Speaker 1: and it.
Speaker 2: Was like, I don't know, but the concept of that
Speaker 2: I don't get. So like, when your kid's in pain,
Speaker 2: no one wants to just smash their kid with pantol
Speaker 2: and whatever, but I mean you also don't want your
Speaker 2: kid to suffer either.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Medication is a really interesting topic when
Speaker 1: it comes to your kids. And I just find it
Speaker 1: really challenging when people go against Western medication that can
Speaker 1: help you and hugely help you. And I get it's
Speaker 1: not the first line of contact, especially for your children,
Speaker 1: but there are so many kids out there with such
Speaker 1: hectic anxiety, such hectic ADHD and the parents not coming
Speaker 1: to terms with medicating their kids. And who is suffering
Speaker 1: is the children, and it really upsets me.
Speaker 2: There are so many things about that, like that is
Speaker 2: also just a form of shaming. Yeah, like almost translating.
Speaker 2: You know, we don't want to do that because and
Speaker 2: you know, everyone has their own right to what they think.
Speaker 2: Is that based down the thing I think is really
Speaker 2: an issue when a parent is in denial but there's something,
Speaker 2: you know that needs to be managed in their child,
Speaker 2: and then the child is you know, acting out in
Speaker 2: the classroom and stuff, and it affects everybody.
Speaker 1: Yes, there was a really interesting clip keeping on the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: The Kardashians stock he treats the Kardashians. It's talking about ADHD,
Speaker 1: which I spoke about on the imperfects that I have.
Speaker 1: I haven't found medication that works properly for me. My
Speaker 1: middle child is like chalk and cheese outside of his
Speaker 1: when I can tell in the morning when his medication
Speaker 1: kicks in because it complex doesn't alter his personality in
Speaker 1: any which way, but he can concentrate. His defiance isn't a.
Speaker 2: Full on his karma. He's karma.
Speaker 1: So when he hasn't had it, the teacher can hands
Speaker 1: down recognized because she has to redirect him all the time.
Speaker 1: This doctor was saying with ADHD, it's more damaging to
Speaker 1: not medicate because it is really challenging for children to
Speaker 1: not be able to concentrate, to be really hyperactive in
Speaker 1: their mind. Is it can lead to higher divorce rate.
Speaker 1: These are this is all scientific studying. Stuff can lead
Speaker 1: to drugs, incarceration, all of those are much higher rate
Speaker 1: for unmedicated ADHD people, which is fascinating to me.
Speaker 2: Well, it makes so much sense because it's the impulsiveness,
Speaker 2: it's the need for to get the dopamine that might
Speaker 2: be food, alcohol, drugs, whatever, higher a chance of having
Speaker 2: an eating disorder. It's like all that stuff. And there are.
Speaker 1: Other ways, of course, you can go about trying to
Speaker 1: help this, but he, this doctor is so all about
Speaker 1: natural stuff. This is the guy that pushes saffron for
Speaker 1: to help with depression and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know who you're talking, the bold guy, dtr Armand.
Speaker 1: So I was so amazed when I heard him say, well,
Speaker 1: I watched it because I was like, fucking here we go.
Speaker 1: Because I do medicate my children, and it was in
Speaker 1: our first line, but it got to the point where
Speaker 1: it's like, my children are suffering so much. This is
Speaker 1: destroying our family and it is absolute chalk and cheese
Speaker 1: between it. But I was saying, how yeah. I was
Speaker 1: watching him and I was like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: What's he going to be saying natural stuff for ADHD?
Speaker 1: But it was so reaffirming for me as a parent
Speaker 1: who does medicate her kids to go, okay, you're a
Speaker 1: doctor who will always go the natural route, but was
Speaker 1: saying ADHD medication just can be an absolute game changer
Speaker 1: and life changer for.
Speaker 2: Children and with kids too, Like when you look back
Speaker 2: at your own life, my fears are always around like
Speaker 2: wasted potential because it's my thing. I think what could
Speaker 2: I have been? What could I have done if I Well,
Speaker 2: I guess back then we didn't even know, like it
Speaker 2: wasn't even know all the things that we look at now,
Speaker 2: especially for girls and women is so different to you know,
Speaker 2: it was looked at in this one particular way back then.
Speaker 2: But I just think, and then what happens is that
Speaker 2: that internal feeling you get that you're not keeping up.
Speaker 2: Everything's harder for you than it is if you're downe
Speaker 2: it affects your self esteem. Then you don't want to
Speaker 2: take chances because you don't want to look stupid, and
Speaker 2: then it's this flow on effect. So if you can
Speaker 2: manage that while they're young, I mean, oh totally.
Speaker 1: Well, the statistics sens like you can't fight against it.
Speaker 1: I also completely understand that everyone is on their own
Speaker 1: journey when it comes to their kids, and you know
Speaker 1: there are other things that you might be doing, So
Speaker 1: please don't take this as a judgment. This is for
Speaker 1: my own opinion. But I also when I see other
Speaker 1: children struggle and the parents so anti medication, and I
Speaker 1: know the difference it made in our family, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that fucking poor kid. I will never forget being at
Speaker 1: Baxter's football when we were testing ADHD medication for him,
Speaker 1: and there were two parents behind me who were talking
Speaker 1: about ADHD and how their kids have ADHD, and one
Speaker 1: of them said, do you medicate your kids? She's like no,
Speaker 1: I will never and the other lady's like you beauty,
Speaker 1: and they high fived behind me. I never felt more
Speaker 1: judged like a shitter parent and just angry. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's your shit that you're putting on your child, and
Speaker 1: it's just it was just so icky. I was also
Speaker 1: talking to a friend yesterday who's got neurodivergent kids. And
Speaker 1: I was saying, how you know so many people just
Speaker 1: think it's horseshit or so many more people getting diagnosed
Speaker 1: with autism and ADHD, And I said, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: There are so many people in the world that of
Speaker 1: course we're going to have different wirings of brains. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean. There's no way we're
Speaker 1: all going to have the same wiring. And if you're
Speaker 1: classed as a typical brain, still your wiring's different. But
Speaker 1: if you're neurodivergent, it's different. Again, like no one's completely
Speaker 1: the same, but there are there is a big difference
Speaker 1: between typical and euro divergent. But I was saying, like
Speaker 1: it's more noticeable now because our world is completely not
Speaker 1: set up for neurodivergent people. It's just not it's over stimulating.
Speaker 1: It's at a pace that is completely ludicrously fast. Where
Speaker 1: if we were back in the tribe days, you had
Speaker 1: a purpose, it wouldn't have been as recognized. So you're
Speaker 1: like hyperactive, impulsive men would have gone out and hunted.
Speaker 1: You're more anxious, reserve people would have stayed and cared
Speaker 1: for the kids and made the food. It's like it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been as recognizable because you would have had
Speaker 1: roles suited you, but there wasn't all that stimulation and
Speaker 1: that pace of fuck, got to get here, got to
Speaker 1: get here. They've got footy, they've got this, they've got that.
Speaker 1: Like it was so different that and over time everything
Speaker 1: has got faster and faster that I think it's become
Speaker 1: more prevalent that there is neurodiversity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And also like it's just I guess it's
Speaker 2: the idea too that oh, it's a superpower, which does
Speaker 2: sort of annoy me a bit think because total gas
Speaker 2: lighting are there are things that make you brilliant in
Speaker 2: some way, but if there's not help there, whether that
Speaker 2: is with a psychologist or medication, whatever you're going to do.
Speaker 2: If there's not help, you're not you don't have the
Speaker 2: skills to be able to live life holy and show
Speaker 2: your brilliance in like, you can't tap into that brilliance
Speaker 2: because there's a million other things that you have to
Speaker 2: do just to survive. Have to pay bills, you have
Speaker 2: to open mail, you have to do all that shit
Speaker 2: that maybe you struggle with. And if you're not in
Speaker 2: a partnership or whatever where you've got a partner who's
Speaker 2: supporting you in that way or taking on the load
Speaker 2: of the stuff that you can't do. Life really fucking
Speaker 2: spins out of control, very totally. And I So what's
Speaker 2: hard with it, though, is that life is challenging for everyone.
Speaker 2: So a typical person could look at a neurodivergent person
Speaker 2: and go, well, my life's fucking hard, Like I don't
Speaker 2: find it easy looking after my kids or anything. It's
Speaker 2: but it is.
Speaker 1: It's like everything is times fucking a hundred. It's very
Speaker 1: hard to explain to a tipping a person the intensity
Speaker 1: of your brain, of your sensory overload of everything like that.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like sometimes I watch
Speaker 1: Sam when we're in a crowd, and I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: not even flinching at this, or I'm gritting my teeth
Speaker 1: through it, Like there is so much of my life
Speaker 1: I've gritted my teeth through it, and I just feel
Speaker 1: like other people have done that as well. But then
Speaker 1: I realized with my diagnosis, I'm like, oh, don't do that.
Speaker 1: That's a lot harder for me than it is for
Speaker 1: somebody who isn't you know, divergent, but what.
Speaker 2: A perfect pairing. Oh, it can be when when you
Speaker 2: have people come together, it's like, you know, when they
Speaker 2: talk about outsourcing shit that you don't want to do
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's sort of like that, like in partnerships,
Speaker 2: in friendships, in everything, when people come together and they're
Speaker 2: all bringing their own specialty, Like, how magical that is
Speaker 2: as well? You know, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's just go back to the Kardashians because we
Speaker 1: cannot deny Chris Janna's face.
Speaker 2: I feel so conflicted about this. I was talking to
Speaker 2: my husband about it before, like, there is no denying.
Speaker 2: She looks fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: She looks phenomenal face transplant face trans It just looks
Speaker 1: like she's had Kim's face transplanted onto her face, Like
Speaker 1: her necks is smooth, anything, It's like she's had a
Speaker 1: whole body. It's like a whole body face left amazing.
Speaker 1: This is where I feel conflicted, because one side of
Speaker 1: me is like, should we even be talking about it.
Speaker 1: It's her face, it's her body. Let her do what
Speaker 1: she wants if it makes her feel better good. But
Speaker 1: the other side of me is like, like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be forty six in a couple of weeks, and like,
Speaker 1: I don't even look at myself and think I look
Speaker 1: bad for my age. I think I look my age right.
Speaker 1: But I see that, and I feel the pressure like
Speaker 1: our hands down. Yeah, and young people.
Speaker 2: When they see that, whether it's girls or boys or whatever,
Speaker 2: it's like, then their expectation becomes, Oh, that's what beauty wants. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I want to like, that's what I want
Speaker 2: to look for in a woman. I want a woman
Speaker 2: who looks like Kim or Chris or whatever. It's not
Speaker 2: fucking reality. And then what's gonna happen. We're all going
Speaker 2: to be getting face transplants.
Speaker 1: Like it is, isn't it? Because I can't have but
Speaker 1: and this is the conditioning of us. I can't help
Speaker 1: but look at her and think she looks better, and
Speaker 1: she looks good, like that's like Kylie Jennet too, like
Speaker 1: chalk and cheese between her face lift and not. That's
Speaker 1: why it's so fucked because you get confused yourself where
Speaker 1: you go. She looks amazing, but then it's like there's
Speaker 1: nothing natural about her, Like that's so unachievable unless you
Speaker 1: have a bucket load of work done it's like every
Speaker 1: second celebrity in Australia as well has had the ponytail
Speaker 1: face lift. Yeah, because if your eyebrows are really far
Speaker 1: from your eyes, that's not natural.
Speaker 2: Like I can't.
Speaker 1: Yes, I can spot it from a mile away now
Speaker 1: where like the tip of the end of the eyebrow
Speaker 1: goes up and the face like the eye I can
Speaker 1: see there's a pulling. There's a pulling and the eyebrows
Speaker 1: really far from the eye. Like I'm looking into our
Speaker 1: camera now and both of our eyebrows are not that
Speaker 1: far from our eyes.
Speaker 2: But then I because they hood as you get on my.
Speaker 1: Eyes though so much I can not because so many
Speaker 1: people everyone I look at is so fucking done. I
Speaker 1: can't help but go, oh my god, my eyelids, Like
Speaker 1: you can't see any of my eyelid when my eyes
Speaker 1: are open now, and my eyes feel like I'm drooping.
Speaker 1: So in the back of my mind, I'm like, one day,
Speaker 1: will I do that I lid cut and will I
Speaker 1: do a pony towel, Like I'm so scared of having
Speaker 1: work done. But at the same time, because that is
Speaker 1: our standard of beauty now, I do look at my
Speaker 1: face and go maybe I should do that.
Speaker 2: I know, and you're caught between. If it makes me
Speaker 2: feel better about myself, what's the problem. But then the
Speaker 2: other side is like I want to scream at everyone stops.
Speaker 2: You're making us all feel shit. We're looking at ourselves differently,
Speaker 2: and like my husband would say to me, but you're
Speaker 2: letting that happen. You're letting. But I'm like, when you
Speaker 2: are looking at yourself in a camera constantly, right, it's
Speaker 2: so hard. And I've edited all this footage, right, so
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my face all the time, and I'm
Speaker 2: looking and going, fuck that line there, Fuck, I've aged.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at this, look at that. I
Speaker 2: shouldn't care because like I'm a nobody, no one gives
Speaker 2: a FA's not true.
Speaker 1: But it is just comparison. It's us comparing to things
Speaker 1: that are just unrealistic because if you look at most
Speaker 1: you know, some people, but I would say minority find
Speaker 1: really aging natural beauty great because you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like it just because there are so many people who
Speaker 1: are getting so much work done. When you spot a
Speaker 1: natural face, you notice it almost more than when somebody
Speaker 1: has had work done, because that's becoming more than norm.
Speaker 2: And It's also like this thing of when people talk
Speaker 2: about older women are attractive or younger guys like older women.
Speaker 2: But part of me is like, yeah, but older women now,
Speaker 2: you say women who are forty and fifty look like
Speaker 2: they're thirty. Yeah, yeah, it's not realistic. You look at
Speaker 2: j Lo and it's like, she doesn't look fifty.
Speaker 1: Four way, and so then we go, oh, I want
Speaker 1: to look as good as her. Like It's just it's
Speaker 1: a no win situation because you're right. You go, let
Speaker 1: them do what they want and if they want to
Speaker 1: do that, and then you know, and then we go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they do look fantastic. And then on
Speaker 1: the other hand, I'm like, fuck you, you're fucking us
Speaker 1: all up.
Speaker 2: I know, but that surgeon, great work, great work. All right,
Speaker 2: we're out of here. Thanks for listening.
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