WEBVTT - #2101 Building A Life On Purpose - Kate Save

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get a bloody champions. It's Craig Anthony harprov been

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<v Speaker 1>told not to lean too close to the mic. Tiff

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<v Speaker 1>yells at me, Melissa yells at me. Someone else who yelled.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick yelled at me the other day. Am I too loud, Kate?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I okay?

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<v Speaker 2>You're good?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Thank you? Also I'm an only child and any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of approval is fantastic, So thank you, Kate. Save

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<v Speaker 1>of course our resident dietitian, exose physiologist, business owner, genius.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that, she does fuck all. Also a wife,

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<v Speaker 1>also a mum, also been on. Telly also works in

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<v Speaker 1>the media here and there. She's a woman about town

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<v Speaker 1>and she's a part of our team. Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm okay. But I am saying a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people at the moment really having meltdowns because they thought

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<v Speaker 2>that this new year, the Chinese New Year. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>heard people talking about this being the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>snake and they shed and now it's the start of

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<v Speaker 2>the horse and you're stronger and whatever else, And it

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't started yet. But I feel like the turn of

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<v Speaker 2>the year people were thinking just because it turned to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six instead of twenty five, the whole, everything would change,

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<v Speaker 2>it would all be different, and everyone feels disappointed. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard right now for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It is spoken authorized by Kate's Save.

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<v Speaker 2>It is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard it here first. Well hard.

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<v Speaker 2>You might need more fiber and you might be dehydrated

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<v Speaker 2>the bruttin.

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<v Speaker 1>Next section, next section, you fuck around, you find out

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<v Speaker 1>all that more with Kate Save. Like, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. I don't disagree with you, But I

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<v Speaker 1>also think people there are a percentage of people, probably

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<v Speaker 1>a big percentage, who also realize it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>magically happen. But I think you know, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>group of people who go new year, new mindset, new start,

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<v Speaker 1>new behaviors, new habits. Well, you know, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not not bad or weak, just normal, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>normal is, you're probably going to run out of motivation

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<v Speaker 1>sometime in the first two weeks of the new year,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're quite likely to. Or excitement or time or

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm or whatever it was that created the momentum. I

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<v Speaker 1>think with changing our body health, fitness, wellness, nutrition, optimizing us,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the fuck it is, the challenge is not to

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<v Speaker 1>get and stay motivated. The challenge and I'm sorry listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard this too many times, but it's new for Kate.

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<v Speaker 1>The challenge is to figure out how can I keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing the work what I need to do to become

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<v Speaker 1>the person I want to become when I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it, because that very human state of I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it. I'm not excited, My back hurt's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, I'm a little bit flat, I'm a bit sad.

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<v Speaker 1>My boss is a prick, and the motivation I had

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<v Speaker 1>is gone for now. Anyway, The challenge is not to

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<v Speaker 1>get all of that back. The challenge is to keep

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<v Speaker 1>going with the behaviors in its absence. It's like, as

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<v Speaker 1>you say to all my athletes and clients, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what you do when you're in the zone. I

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<v Speaker 1>care what you do when you can't be fucked because

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<v Speaker 1>that capacity to step up when most would give up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a superpower.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. And the first thing that goes through my head

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<v Speaker 2>when you say that is people are looking for a

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<v Speaker 2>magic pill for whatever, and that is why they go

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<v Speaker 2>so hard at something, and they go the hard way

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to work. Give me the magic pill,

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<v Speaker 2>and hence the weight loss medications that was the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing when you said that, that popped into my head

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<v Speaker 2>as if this will solve all my problems this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not one thing for anything. There's you and

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<v Speaker 2>I talked off air about building your dream house and

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<v Speaker 2>picking the handles and the furnishings. And you think in

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<v Speaker 2>two years, after you've built that house and put every

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<v Speaker 2>little piece of your heart and soul in time, energy

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<v Speaker 2>into picking everything, that the moment you walk in that

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<v Speaker 2>door and you move in, you will have a wonderful life.

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<v Speaker 2>But actually your health is still the same, your job's

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<v Speaker 2>the same, your bank account's probably a lot less.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, I mean I like that analogy

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<v Speaker 1>because so we live in two places, this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>we live in our body, we live in our home.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we asked anyone what's more important, your house

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<v Speaker 1>or your body, everyone's going to say, well, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I can get another house. I can't get another body.

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<v Speaker 1>And again this is not to be a smart us,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just to say, well, how come you spend

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<v Speaker 1>basically a year thinking about and planning and organizing and

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<v Speaker 1>structuring and timetabling and allocating resources and having conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>doing all of these things to build your best house,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't spend the day doing all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to build your best body, you know. And it's so,

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<v Speaker 1>why not the same way that you get proactive and

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<v Speaker 1>productive and strategic and you know, creative about how you

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<v Speaker 1>build your home. What if you took that thinking and

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<v Speaker 1>what if you know, like your home is a project

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<v Speaker 1>that you're working on. What if you, in fact, what

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<v Speaker 1>if we started a podcast called the You Project. What

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<v Speaker 1>if you were the project? You know? What if your body?

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<v Speaker 1>What if your mind? What if your habits, what if

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<v Speaker 1>your behaviors, what if your exercise routine, what if your

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<v Speaker 1>outcomes and results? What if the plan was built around

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things or the project was focused on

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Like when it comes to our bodies, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is me generalizing everyone, don't get pissed off. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not everyone, but most of us are just emotional when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to our body because it's where we live,

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<v Speaker 1>and emotions and physiology and psychology you're intertwined. But with

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<v Speaker 1>a house, it's just a thing we're going to build,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So and yes we do get into emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>intertwined with the place that we live as well, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's trying to how do I deconstruct this. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot more realistic and practical about how I

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<v Speaker 1>build my optimal body, knowing that probably in a week

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<v Speaker 1>or two I won't be motivated like I am now,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not bad a week it's normal, it's human.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I navigate that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? The first thing I think about there is new

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<v Speaker 2>car feeling or new phone feeling as well, Like you think,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the thing, and that little bit of joy,

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<v Speaker 2>that dopamine, that pleasure, that reward that you have, it

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<v Speaker 2>goes away. And that's how I feel about motivation. You

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<v Speaker 2>have this pumped up energy to do something and then

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<v Speaker 2>it slowly fades. I think the most important thing is habit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was sitting at a dinner Thursday night, and

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<v Speaker 2>someone next to me said, I'm so interested to see

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<v Speaker 2>what you order for dinner because I'm a dietitian.

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome to it my life and yours. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>one constant, if you're Kate or me, whenever you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a public place eating, somebody wants to if not, somebodies

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<v Speaker 1>want to look at your dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I try to pretend like I'm normal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm picking a normal choice. But Actually my brain is

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about do I need more iron? Then I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>red meat? How long since I go since I last

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<v Speaker 2>had fishure, I haven't had fish a week? Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>you had tuny yesterday. Oh do I need more a

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<v Speaker 2>mega threet. So my brain does think these things, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it does it very quickly. But I'm never thinking about like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not thinking about the calories in the food because

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't believe calories matter. Calories are not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a made up thing. Humans put food into

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<v Speaker 2>a bomb calorimeter and you know, burnt it and then

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<v Speaker 2>gave them an equivalent number of calories. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that that has a lot. It's certainly not the number

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<v Speaker 2>one thing when it comes to how food affects our body.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've talked a little bit about this in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>but calories is not a thing that enters my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I am always thinking nutrients because I know that's what

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<v Speaker 2>my body needs to fuel, and I think macros. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think protein because I know that's what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>attain my muscle, and a bit of collagen in meat

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, animal structures that's going to help my

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<v Speaker 2>face stay up as I grow old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I down, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And anyway, so this guy said to me, are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to have chips with your steak? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if I feel like chips, I will have ten chips.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, why ten? And I said, look, that's my rule.

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, what do you mean there's rules? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, that's just a habit that I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I can have chips whenever I want chips. I would

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<v Speaker 2>never not have chips, but I have ten. And he goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what other rules do you have? I've said, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>I have a vanilla slice, I'll have two giant bytes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very big mouth, two big big bites,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'll put the rest in the bin. So

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<v Speaker 2>I had cheesecake for dessert, So what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have?

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<v Speaker 2>Two big spoonfuls of the cheesecake and then I don't

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<v Speaker 2>go without anything. But I'd never sit there and fall

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<v Speaker 2>into the trap of the dopamine drift, where just buy

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<v Speaker 2>it after buy it after buy it, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>the food is tricking, you don't fall for it. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>be smarter than the food.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you don't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to be driven to have it if you

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<v Speaker 2>say I can't have it. I can't have it the

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<v Speaker 2>moment it's put in front of you, you inhaling and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't even remember you ate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think I think one of the So

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<v Speaker 1>when I say all this stuff I say everyone, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've got to rationalize, you know, just to

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<v Speaker 1>give people context who don't know me. So I did

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty thou pt sessions. I don't say that as

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<v Speaker 1>a brag. It's not a brag. It's just my story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just where I've been and my staff did over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years. Well, I actually don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would think it would be significantly above two million sessions. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been around hundreds of thousands of people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to look different, feel different, function differently, and I

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<v Speaker 1>put myself. I'm about to throw a group of people

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<v Speaker 1>under the bus, including myself in the group. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the problem that I made, or that the mistake I

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<v Speaker 1>made and many others made and make, is that when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to exercise and diet and all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things which are relevant to everyone, we are more concerned

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<v Speaker 1>with esthetics and appearance than we are with health and function.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what happens is, and by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an unclimbable hill. So I've worked with many I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful, but I've worked with many people, men

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<v Speaker 1>and women who are models, who work in the media,

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<v Speaker 1>who've got high profiles, who are understandably are very aware

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<v Speaker 1>of how they look, and also very aware that the

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<v Speaker 1>better that you look, depending on what scale we use,

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<v Speaker 1>the better that you do sometimes and the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the more desirability and appeal and marketability. And let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>dollars right, So you get taught by our culture. When

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<v Speaker 1>people say looks don't matter, well, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>On a philosophical and a real world and a spiritual level,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. But in the marketplace they fucking do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you look at how they destroy actors that put

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<v Speaker 2>on weight they love putting on the front of magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Look this is what she look like. Look at her now, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we do as a society pull.

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<v Speaker 1>People down and yeah, and even down to you know

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<v Speaker 1>people how they look now. Twenty years ago they look

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<v Speaker 1>like this and now look they look like their grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's it's fucking horrible and it's nasty. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem remains, Like I nobody knows who this is

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<v Speaker 1>so I can say it. But I remember training a

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<v Speaker 1>young lady who was a model, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how do we assess, but through my eyes it's like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this human is about a nine and a half out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten, and I would have put myself as a five, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so this to give some context. And I wasn't terrible

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. Now I'm a rock solid. Now

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<v Speaker 1>my one and a half, I'm alright with that. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I first met her, I'm like, cheapest, this lady

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<v Speaker 1>is attractive. And we chatted and like, why you're here?

0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.080
<v Speaker 1>She goes, oh and stands up and kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>holds her arms out goes, why do you think. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're saying, but it's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And she thought she was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually what she said. She goes, I'm fucking hidious,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh my god. You know, obviously body

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<v Speaker 1>dysmorphia and a whole lot of and so it took

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<v Speaker 1>me a long time to help her get in a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy place emotionally and mentally around how she looked, how

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<v Speaker 1>she thought people saw her, evaluated her, rated her, appearance

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<v Speaker 1>and beauty, and yeah, it's so hard. And when you

0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:33.000
<v Speaker 1>grow up in a culture like Owls, which does despite

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<v Speaker 1>what we say, away from the meaningless fucking words, in reality,

0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:43.280
<v Speaker 1>people get advantaged greatly. Sometimes the prettier or more handsome

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<v Speaker 1>they are, right, Well, that teaches you a bad lesson

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<v Speaker 1>because that means as soon as you start to be

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<v Speaker 1>less desirable or attractive or pretty or handsome, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>as valuable, or you're not as good or you're not

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<v Speaker 1>as worthy. And that's that. So people, I know many

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<v Speaker 1>people who have done things which are bad for their health, bad,

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<v Speaker 1>not neutral, bad so that they would look better in

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. So I'm going to do a bad

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<v Speaker 1>thing to my body which is bad for my health

0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.680
<v Speaker 1>on a range of levels physical health, but it might

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<v Speaker 1>make people think I'm more attractive, you know, And that

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm not hating on those people. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the world we live in.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, and it is really sad too because even

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<v Speaker 2>once we've done those things to our body, and you

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<v Speaker 2>see all of the people that have done too much

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<v Speaker 2>to their face and it's so disordered, but they think

0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.440
<v Speaker 2>it looks better. And that's where you know, there's actually

0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.160
<v Speaker 2>a dysregulation between what they're seeing and what everyone else

0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:53.440
<v Speaker 2>is seeing. That strive for perfectionism, whether that is in

0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.040
<v Speaker 2>the way you look or in health, is actually not

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<v Speaker 2>good either, because there is no such thing as perfect health.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a scary thing too, because that leads to this

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that there is this one super food, this one routine,

0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:15.880
<v Speaker 2>this one something, and if you blow that out, it's disproportionate,

0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:20.880
<v Speaker 2>when actually our body is so metabolically flexible if we

0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.920
<v Speaker 2>are reasonably healthy, so if we try to be healthy,

0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.600
<v Speaker 2>our body will compensate for everything else. So trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be perfect is setting yourself up for failure. That'll lead

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<v Speaker 2>to disappointment. I'll be perfect whatever, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>In all the thousands of PT sessions I've done over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, almost nobody like a few, but very few

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<v Speaker 1>people are happy with how they look, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>much they've changed. So the amount of times when for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, quite often I don't know if it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same because I don't weigh people anymore. But back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day where everyone would get like a monthly or

0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:12.160
<v Speaker 1>six weekly assessment, which would be you know, girth measurements,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe on the scales, maybe but never more than once

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<v Speaker 1>a month, and I'd explain to them what it meant

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<v Speaker 1>and what it didn't mean, you know, so people would

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<v Speaker 1>come in for better or worse. Back in the old days, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly everyone said I want to lose this much. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why they were there at weight loss. And then they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, if I could weigh sixty five kilos, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be awesome. I'll be so happy. I'd be like, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be good. If I got sixty five, I would be good.

0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Life would be good. I would be happy, I myself

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<v Speaker 1>steam and'd be better. All these things would happen they

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<v Speaker 1>get sixty five kilos. None of that's happened because it

0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.800
<v Speaker 1>happened so slowly, and they see themselves every moment and

0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:59.080
<v Speaker 1>they go, oh yeah, but look at this, look at

0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that and that bits of their own body and squeeze

0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it and show it to me. Right, I'm like, all right,

0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.680
<v Speaker 1>so what are you thinking? And they'd be like sixty

0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I go, I reckon, you're going to get sixty

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me fifty five? Oh no, no, no, of

0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.880
<v Speaker 1>course that would happen, right, because and this is weird

0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and deep and spiritual and philosophical, but I truly believe

0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that we humans try and solve psychological and emotional and

0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:35.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe spiritual issues with getting leaner or weighing less or

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.800
<v Speaker 1>looking to so we think that something physical will fix

0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.919
<v Speaker 1>something emotional. So you know, it's like my story is,

0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I was a big, fat kid, and I mean big,

0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.639
<v Speaker 1>and I mean fat, I mean morbally obese. And then

0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I lost weight and I got in good shape, and

0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.000
<v Speaker 1>then I was basically a runner and I was quite skinny.

0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Then I went, yeah, well I'm not fat, which is good,

0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'm skinny. Chicks don't dig skinny. And I would

0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.920
<v Speaker 1>mind us a girlfriend time before I turned thirty, that'd

0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:06.000
<v Speaker 1>be nice. And so then I started lifting weights. And

0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 1>then you know, I got to the point where I

0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 1>was quite big, quite muscular, quite lean. I was as

0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:18.920
<v Speaker 1>insecure as ever, like my insecurity did not disappear at all.

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.800
<v Speaker 1>And then so there was time where I couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>lean enough. Then there was a time where I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be big enough, and where most people would panic if

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't lose weight, I would panic if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>gain weight. When I was going through my body phase bodybuilding.

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<v Speaker 2>Phase, is there also a personality shift outwardly. And my

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<v Speaker 2>example of that is I used to see a lot

0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.600
<v Speaker 2>of people come through with the bariatric surgeon I was

0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:52.639
<v Speaker 2>working with for weight or surgery, and one particular guy,

0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:58.479
<v Speaker 2>he was a few hundred kilos and anything he tried,

0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.919
<v Speaker 2>he was actually one one seventy got up to one eighty.

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 2>We could never get him below really one seventy through

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<v Speaker 2>any other meats, so he decided to have weight loss surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Not recommending him for anyone, no offense to anyone who's

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.119
<v Speaker 2>had it, but it is life threatening. There's definitely a

0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.879
<v Speaker 2>risk for it. And anyway, about two years later, he

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.080
<v Speaker 2>came to tap me on the shoulder and there's this tall,

0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 2>big lanky guy and I'm like hi, and he's like

0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it's me. Do you remember me? And said he's name

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, my goodness, Like he was completely unrecognizable.

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.560
<v Speaker 2>So to me, he was a big, funny, happy guy.

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:46.840
<v Speaker 2>And now he was a really tall, skinny redhead like

0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't even notice he had red hair, Like he

0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 2>was just this completely different person. And I said, wow,

0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 2>how do you feel like all that pressure off your joints?

0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.679
<v Speaker 2>And are you like how have you done this? You

0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.679
<v Speaker 2>walk every day exercising. He goes, oh, I feel a

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.800
<v Speaker 2>bit insecure, and I go, what do you mean? And

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 2>he goes, well, I'm not the funny fat guy. I'm

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 2>just you know, I'm not used to being in this body.

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I've never heard anyone like people

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.160
<v Speaker 2>play roles, and you see people in movies where they

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.560
<v Speaker 2>think they're the funny fat person or they are right,

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that's a role in a movie, but then when they're skinny,

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.120
<v Speaker 2>they're like, well, I can't be that person. And that

0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:33.040
<v Speaker 2>personality shift that happened with that and that insecurity. I'm like,

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.399
<v Speaker 2>you're still you, You're still funny. He goes, but I

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.879
<v Speaker 2>don't feel funny like. And I thought that was weird.

0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just on the outside, it was who he

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.840
<v Speaker 2>thought he had to be and then couldn't be or

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:48.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't know how to be that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you want to hear my theory?

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.120
<v Speaker 1>So my theory is that we our personality and our

0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:01.679
<v Speaker 1>identity and our sense of self who we are is

0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 1>very intertwined with what we look like with our body.

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And so when the big fat guy who always get

0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>laughs gets last, he's the jolly guy. He's the life

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of the party. It's big bloody Brian again. He's just

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>crushing it and he's funny and everyone goes, oh, mate,

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 1>glad you're here and whatever, and then you don't have

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 1>any kind of significant albeit probably not one he wanted,

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but then yeah, you can. It's been interesting for me

0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 1>as I've gotten older, getting a much leaner version of me,

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.119
<v Speaker 1>which is good for me, but my ego doesn't like it.

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not like I'm skinny, oh no, oh no, my

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>ego wants me towagh ninety five and be hard as

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a cat's head and have veins in my fucking eyelids.

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what my ego wants, right. But yeah, I'm getting older,

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 1>like I'm still have a fair bit of muscle for

0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>my age. I'm very lean and all of that. But

0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I got on the scales yesterday. Absolute truth. I don't

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 1>even want to say it, but I'm just going to

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>say it because it's true. I hope none of my

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>main male dude friends are listening. I weighed seventy eight

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:17.360
<v Speaker 1>point five. Now for me, that is lame.

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Is that really low? Oh?

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 1>That's hysterically low for me.

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say that. I never guessed

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 2>that by.

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<v Speaker 1>Look yeah most yeah, yeah, most of the last ten

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 1>to fifteen years. Eighty five ish and quite lean. Yeah,

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I've been a bit cook lately, so I think that

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.639
<v Speaker 1>hasn't helped. But yeah, and you know, lots on a

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>bit of stress and sleeplessness and all that shit. But yeah,

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I my ego doesn't like it. But if you look

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>at me in a pair of shorts and a singlet,

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah it's compared to some people anyway, I'm in quite

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>good shape, right, But yeah, it's like it's funny because

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 1>but I realized this isn't a problem, this is just

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>a perception.

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I had exactly the same conversation with a girlfriend

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 2>who was feeling unsexy, and I'm like, you are, so

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not hitting on her. I have a husband and

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.239
<v Speaker 2>a family. She's so sexy, And I'm like, this is

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 2>You've got to realize this is in your head. You

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 2>have not changed. You need to drop that thought that

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 2>she's like I can't get a boyfriend because I'm not sexy.

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my goodness, where did that thought come from.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you just need to watch more. I don't know.

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I taught her to watch some rom coms and some

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 2>funny Netflix things, and there's Younger on Netflix where the

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 2>lady's like forty something, and you know these things that

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 2>make you laugh at yourself. You laugh at the character

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 2>and then you go, oh, I had that thought too.

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 2>That thought's not real. I take yourself so seriously and

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 2>like it's an idea we put in our head. But

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 2>it's not real. Like you said, no one else would

0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 2>see that on you, only you.

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And can I tell you a funny story. So when

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I was in my late twenties, had this friend, like

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I was never fucking Brad Pitt, let's be clear, but

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I was always good on the gob right. I could

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>talk shit, I can make people laugh. I could build rapport,

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, guys and girl girls old and young, you know,

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily trying to you know, woo anyone, but just

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>talking right. Yeah, I'm glad I didn't use the first

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 1>term that came into my mouth. But anyway, I had

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>this friend who was stupidly good looking. Stupidly good looking.

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love going out with him, but I

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>fucking hated it because I was socially invisible, right, I

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>was just like the fucking ugly dumb brother. But him

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>just good looking, but when he would talk to girls

0:24:54.280 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>like oh my god, shush shush, and he just was

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>awkward and clunky and beautiful, like an amazing guy. But

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>just one of my other friends said, he's so amazing

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>till he talks.

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I've met those guys too. I'm like, oh, bro,

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and I had to. And then he got this. He

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>met this girl. They became a thing. I knew her

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>quite well and she's like, is he a good dude?

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he's great. He's a great dude. He's a

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit clunky but clungster on the socializing and that

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, what do you mean. I'm like, ah, she

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>will find out. And he was just so keen to

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>please yep. And it's such a good dude that it's like, Bro,

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you mose will get a T shirt that says desperate

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:47.919
<v Speaker 1>all over the front front of it because I know

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>that's not your intention, but that's that's the energy you're

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>giving off. And ladies aren't attracted to desperate. Yeah. And

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 1>so way, he came over to my joint one day.

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<v Speaker 1>We were hanging out and he was asking me stuff right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, okay, tell me how often you call her?

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<v Speaker 1>So mobile phones were out, so it must have been

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<v Speaker 1>I guess late nineties. Tell me how often you phone her?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, uh, give me a phone. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the arvo. It already called her like ten

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>or twelve times. I'm like, Okay, that's not going to work, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, and if she texts, he would text

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen seconds later back. I might give it a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a spell, you know, just just I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be cunning, but I'm like, just try to understand.

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.360
<v Speaker 1>This is my PhD. Try to understand the you experience

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>for her. Try to understand what all this. I know

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're keen and you want to impress her. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a thing. That's a good thing, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>need to try to understand that your intention is not

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 1>her experience, and your very good intention might produce a

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>very bad experience and outcome. Right, like she might go

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking way too needy. I need whatever a manny man

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>is that I need one of them, right, So it's that, Yeah,

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And I've had the we're digressing now, but I've had

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the same thing where not in looks and that, but

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>when I would get feedback from students when I talk

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>taught academically, and one of the bits feedback was, you know,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>like great, good, we like him, stuff's good, but he's

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of scary or is intimidating. And I'm like, ah, first,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>one second, one a third, one oh fourth one oh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. And out of I don't know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty students in my first year of teaching exercise science,

0:27:55.440 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like probably more than ten, it wasn't insignificant, like oh,

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>what do I do that? Because that is obviously not

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>my intention and not my awareness. So I was the problem,

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>So they weren't the problem. Like when ten people say

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, it's definitely got something to do with you.

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's part of the whole who am I and

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>how am I? For me? And who am I and

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>how am I for them? It's like, you know, which

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>is why it's called metaperception, which is understanding you for them.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and that kind of insects with all kinds

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>of things, even in the health and wellness space, you know,

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>like the way that you teach people about nutrition and

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>bah blah blah, the way that you teach not what

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you teach, but the way that you teach will be

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>way more influential than the contents.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes perfect sense. And I see when you said that.

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I went to an example where I got some feedback

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>about my personality that I'm aware of lots of different things.

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>And I've said this before. I'm not everyone's cup of tea.

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I wear my heart on my sleeve. I say what

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking all the time.

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I talk a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot, and I don't have any body image issues, so

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I need to be super sensitive around everyone else because

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they're thinking at that time. So

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I can be really annoying to people that are having

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 2>body image issues. And anyway, this particular male said to me,

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>can I let you know you now for I don't

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>know a year, and you just come across so cold

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>to me. I think you know that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>work on this. I was like cold, and he's like,

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, like so cold, And I'm like, is that

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 2>my defense mechanism around men? So I never feel like

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting myself out there because I'm married and have

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>kids and whatever else, Like, I wouldn't think I was

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>ever cold. And I was absolutely shocked that this guy

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>thought I was so cold.

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now let me stop you. The question is not

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>am I cold? The question is do people perceive me

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>as cold? And then the next question is why am

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I intimidating? Well, I guess to some I very much

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>try not to be. Are you Do I think, as

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>objectively as I can about you, that you're cold? No,

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never even never even entered my mind. Do I

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>think that some people could see you as that? Well,

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>clearly because it's happened. So it's you know, to sorry.

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>To take things that are personal about you, to not

0:30:55.320 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>take them personally is very difficult, especially when you know,

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>like you're you, You're in the media, your face is

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>out and about. You've got a profile, You've got an ego,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I've got an ego. We all think we're a bit

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>better than we are. I think I'm you know, I'm

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I do think you're amazing. By the way, that wasn't

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>an insult, but I just think that. I just think that. Yeah,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>of course, of course, you know, like the idea around

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll shut up after this, I realize I'm over talking,

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But the idea around you know, needing to be right.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I had a revelation a few years ago and

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>it was like, well, of course, I'm wrong. Of course

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I get multiple things wrong. Like how many things have

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I gotten wrong in the past since I was, say,

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>a young adult till now, well, probably hundreds of thousands,

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>definitely tens of thousands. So why would I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>right today? Or why would I assume I'm right? I

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>might say, well, this is what I think, but I

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>could be wrong. You know, if I'm saying two plus

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>two is four, I'm sure I'm right. But if I'm

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>saying the meaning of life is this, I'm not sure.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>So this is what I think about that particular topic

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>or question. But could I be completely wrong, yes, Could

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I be a bit right, yes? Could I be totally

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>right yes, not likely.

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think that whole perception thing of other people

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>and how they perceive you. You make me knowing what

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you study and the way that you think. I think, Okay,

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 2>what made them think that? Because it's not necessarily about

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 2>me if I haven't had that feedback from anyone else,

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But what is it about them that makes them think

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 2>that about me? And the way that you talk always

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>makes me go oh, it's their experiences that are shaping

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>their experience with me, not necess necessarily what I'm.

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Doing Okay, you're exactly right. So for our listeners, a

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>really easy way to comprehend this is so all of

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>us have been programmed from birth to or whenever. You

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>could comprehend anything to listening to this podcast right now.

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You now, as you listen, you've got certain beliefs and

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>ideas and values, and maybe theology, maybe philosophy, maybe spirituality.

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>You've got certain genetics, you've got a certain body, You've

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>got certain friends and family, you went to a certain school,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>You pay attention to certain social media and mainstream media.

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>You have ideas and beliefs and biases. All of us do,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>including man Kate. Now, all of that stuff metaphorically forms

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the window through which you observe the world. But the

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>problem is there's eight billion windows and they're all different.

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So Kate's window is not mine. So Kate thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>she's looking at something objectively when she is not. She

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>is looking through a lifetime of programming and conditioning and

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>labeling and storytelling. So Kate sees not the thing, but

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>rather her version of the thing, as does Craig. So

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>if you want to go, well, how the fuck do

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>we Well? Can we be objective? No, we can't. There's

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an exception. But no, we can't

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.439
<v Speaker 1>be objective because everything we look at we're looking through

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>our lens, so we see our version of what is right.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>But then the next question is, or the next perhaps

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>part this is how do I be more evolved in

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>this space? How do I open the door to real

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>awareness and real consciousness? Like taking a step up the

0:34:54.760 --> 0:35:00.040
<v Speaker 1>consciousness ladder is realizing that I am a miss a

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>world inside a macro world. So my world is my thoughts,

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>my ideas, my beliefs, my values, my biology, physiology, you know,

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>my genetics. Like that's the world that I live in.

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I live on planet, Craig, and everything else is another

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, planet or star kind of circulating around me

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>or weigh from me. And so it's understanding that now, Craig,

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't see the world objectively because you're not objective.

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Everything that you look at is a subjective interpretation or

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a subjective experience. So the closest that we can get

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to objectivity is not real, but it's closer is when

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Kate tells me something about something I've never heard of,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. I don't have a preconceived idea, I

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have any opinion, and she starts to tell me

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>about this area that she has a lot of knowledge

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>in and I have none, you know, but I might

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 1>have a pre conceived idea that Kate's full of shit.

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, this is all bullshit, you know. So,

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's an interesting area of the human experience to

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>open the door.

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>On it is very much so, very much so.

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>And also also just for you, I know, I talk

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>too much. Apologize everyone like you understanding how other people think.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you've got business partners if not, yeah, you have,

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and employees and friends, and you've got to you've got

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to make deals. You've got to sell products. You've got

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to navigate conversations and meetings and problem solving and conflict resolution.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 1>You've got to build connection, rapport, trust, respect with people. Now,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the superpower in there is knowing how they think. Because

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>if you know how they think, then you know how

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk. You know their language, you know their reference points,

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you understand their cognitive landscape. You understand what they think

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and maybe what they're seeing. And in science, that's or

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>in psychology that's theory of mind, and that yeah, that's

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>just when you start to think more about how they

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>think than what you think. Then you can really go

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>to another level.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>And I love that too because I think it throws

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 2>all of the business jargon that's in business books on

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>its head a little bit too. Because every single person

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you employ, supplier relationship, or anyone in business that you

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 2>deal with you there is no specific way to deal

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 2>with it. There is no textbook way of exactly what

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 2>you need to do and say and the dot points

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that you will learn about in business, because it actually

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 2>comes down to the relationship you can build with the individual.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Nothing else matters. If you can't build the relationship with

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 2>the individual, it probably doesn't matter how good your product is,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>because at some point in time, someone else is going

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>to come along that builds a stronger a life relationship,

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and that human at the end of the day has

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 2>emotions that will be pulled in another direction. So I

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 2>always focus on building the relationships because even if that

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>you don't do the deal in the organization this person

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 2>is in today, wherever they go next, they will think

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 2>of you and you will be top of mind. I

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 2>think even with employees, no matter what happens, if it

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work out, I always try my very best to

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 2>keep the relationship, and if there is a ugly exit,

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>then try and repair the relationship because something is about

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>an objective thing at work. Maybe it's a mistake, a

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 2>seventy thousand dollars double spreadsheet mistake, and I'm very forgiving.

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I've had lots of these things over the years. However,

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 2>when you repeat those mistakes several times, I don't dislike

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you as a person. I think you have many incredible qualities,

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 2>but this role no longer suits you, and we don't

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 2>have other roles. So I am so careful with every

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 2>relationship for everyone I meet, because I find that the

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>world goes around and you come across them again, or

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 2>you work with their husband or their wife, or their

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 2>brother or sister, or whoever it might be. And that

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 2>is the number one thing that I think I've learned

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in business over the last twenty something years, is to

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.919
<v Speaker 2>work on your relationships more so than anything else. Yeah,

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>before you sell, before you whatever you're doing.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, Unlike you. There are people that I don't like.

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like now, but I don't tell them that, and

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're necessarily bad people. I just don't

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 1>want them in my life. I wouldn't be mean to them.

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't run them down. In fact, if I could

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>help them get ahead inside, I would. But there are

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>just people that I go, I don't want you in

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>my life. I wish you all the best, but I

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to spend time talking to you, or don't

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>want to hang out with you. I don't respect the

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>way that you think. Or it's like, oh whatever, there's

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>just shit chemistry or but that's okay. And I'm absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>positive there are people who feel the same about me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm completely cool. I'm like, of course, like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I don't like me, and I fucking am me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't blame you. And I also know that

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<v Speaker 1>my personality and my directness and my bluntness ain't for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get it, you know. And that I had

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<v Speaker 1>a session the other day. I can't say much, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was with a new coaching client, a corporate coaching client.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know these sessions that companies pay for that

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not like a dollar fifty session, like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>giving this well, let's be honest, I'm not giving it away, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So So anyway, I met with this person and they're

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<v Speaker 1>like it was on zoom and Firstly, they weren't keen

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<v Speaker 1>to do it at all. They weren't keen and they

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<v Speaker 1>said that, and I didn't blame them because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>about me. I could have been that never met me

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<v Speaker 1>and anyway showed up and we're like, I'm like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just go with Champ. I might get a champ. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Had to chat and a lot of people like, oh,

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 1>how does this work? Do you do a disc profile?

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you to do a personality? Do you send me shit?

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I fill out twenty pages of shit, I send you back,

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<v Speaker 1>you analyze that. I send it back, You analyze the shit,

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<v Speaker 1>then you come up with it. I go fuck all that.

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>That is way too hard and I'm too lazy. And

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<v Speaker 1>the person's like, oh, what do we do? I go,

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<v Speaker 1>will you talk to me? Then I talk to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you talk back, then I talk back. We

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<v Speaker 1>do that for an hour and then we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fuck off, you know, and you might go this is good.

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I like it and we'll do another one, or you

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>might go not for me and we won't do another one.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Has that and they're like that's great. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the arm twister. Well, firstly, if you don't

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like me, I want to be coached by me. That's fine. Also,

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:13.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to coach you if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be coached. And I understand that. So we did

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and that dude and by the way, hand

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>on heart, just a good guy. It doesn't matter, no

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.720
<v Speaker 1>one knows who is. I like him, I actually really

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like him. And I'm like, this dude could be my friend.

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, I know what the difference is. When I

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<v Speaker 2>said build relationships, she went to or I don't like everyone.

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say I like them. It's connecting, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It's right.

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:45.879
<v Speaker 1>How do you.

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Build a human connection? And there are many people that

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<v Speaker 2>think they have nothing in common with me whatsoever. My

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 2>challenge when I meet someone is to find a human connection.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Whether it's we both have cat, our mums both died,

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>we both had kids, we both had a natural birth.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Who knows what it is, but there will be a

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<v Speaker 2>human connection where you connect, and it doesn't mean you

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 2>have to like the person, but once you've got that connection,

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So maybe relationship is not the same word, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my challenge, no matter who it is, is to build

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<v Speaker 2>a connection. And sometimes you know you have that instant

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<v Speaker 2>where people you feel like your hairs prick up and

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 2>they're not your person. That's the person that I really

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<v Speaker 2>try and find a human connection with, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the challenge for me is we are all human

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<v Speaker 2>and on some level we will have something in common.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what that is, and when you find that,

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<v Speaker 2>you actually unlock the key to communication for whatever it

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>is you need to do or get from this person,

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 2>you can communicate better. But if unlocking that.

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<v Speaker 1>Connection, I will also say, just quickly, like there's been

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<v Speaker 1>lots of people I've worked with over the years that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really like them, and eventually I actually liked them.

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<v Speaker 1>So was I the problem? Yeah? Like sometimes of course,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't go, we don't get on. Here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the problem. Ah, that's just your ego champ,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And sometimes there wasn't really a problem, just

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't you know, like there are people that

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<v Speaker 1>I need to spend time around because of my job,

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>because of my work, because of a situation, because of

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a circumstance, because of a some kind of commitment I've got.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. They would not know I didn't like them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would never express that, but then where you go, well,

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of not work, this is no, this

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 1>is just my life over here. This is me and

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<v Speaker 1>do I no, don't you know? But when I see

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<v Speaker 1>that person, I would tend to be a good version

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<v Speaker 1>of me if I could. I've got a jam. We

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<v Speaker 1>still didn't talk about what we're going to talk about,

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>but we'll come back. Kate and I are going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back. I'll say this now so you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>we did a good I think we did a good

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<v Speaker 1>job last time talking about strength training and being in

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the gym and all of that, but we didn't really

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 1>remember both of us qualified in the exo science slash

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>physiology space. But we didn't talk about cardio much. So

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>we're going to We're going to regroup and not get

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>distracted as I always caused us to get distracted, and

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll unpack our thoughts around the how's, whis, why not,

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>what to do? What not to do? Benefits and not

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>just physical but of cardio so hard stuff. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>all right with you? Miss?

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great looking forward to it.

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0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.160
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<v Speaker 2>why would I pay that for eggs? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>our eggs has four egg whites, two egg yolks, plus

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.279
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0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:04.399
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<v Speaker 1>Sure is, You're the best kite save. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Friends and family, Thank you so much. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>back sometime in the future. Over and out from the

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