1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hello, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good whatever time 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: it is for you, it's me. It's the You Project. 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: So yesterday, team, I was in the thriving metropolis of 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Ballarats side note I was born in Ballarat, lived there 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: for the first two years of my life. Got to say, 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: can't remember a lot. Anyway, I was doing a gig 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: with Lara Secondary College. A bunch of kids and teachers, 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: the boys and girls, the young men and women about 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: to head into you while just starting year twelve, Day 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: one of Year twelve. Imagine day one of Year twelve. 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Jumbo rocks up, Fatty Harps rocks up to talk to you, 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: to give you the lowdown on what's coming up in 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: the next world, the world's worst Year twelve student. How 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: ironic turning up to talk to a bunch of year 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: twelve students about how to navigate the next kind of 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: nine slash ten months of academ and personal survival. Anyway, 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it was fun. They were good. Shout out to the team, 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: all the teachers and all the kids. They were fun. 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: You know what I love about what I love about 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: working with that age. They're not children, but they're not 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: really kind of adults. They're in that they've got kind 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: of one foot on each side of that line. And 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: they they are still at school, so they haven't begun work. 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: And you think they're either going to step out of 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: school this year and into university or into work. But 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: they're definitely stepping out of being a teenager, although they're 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: still a teenager at eighteen, aren't they, but out of 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: being a child technically to being an adult. And so 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: it's a whole new world. And I don't need to 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: tell you that, but you know, now you can drive, 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: and now you can vote, and now you can drink, 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: and although we don't want you to do all of 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: those things at the same time. But it was really 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: interesting to talk to them about, you know, talk to 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: them about a bunch of things, but interestingly, we open 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: the metacognition door, and I spoke to them about how 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: they think and why they think, and how they see 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: the world and why they see the world the way 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: that they do, and how they see themselves in the world, 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: and why they think about themselves for better or worse 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: the way that they do, and the way that we 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: navigate and negotiate the different components of our life at 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: school away from school with family with friends, with work eventually, 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: and you know how the way that we think impacts 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: that for better or worse. And I was talking to 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: them a bit about self doubt and self limitation, and 47 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned that, you know, there are times when so 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: even after thirty five years of being paid to speak 49 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: to groups so professional speaking, thirty five years, you know, 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: probably only really the last twenty years only I would 51 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: say that I've been somewhere between not terrible and recently 52 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: good at it. But you know, doing lots and lots 53 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: of that, and I've done I don't know how many 54 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: I've done, but in the thousands thousands of professional gigs 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: this year, i'll do around one hundred. I've already got 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: a lot of work book, which is great. But anyway, 57 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: that's not the point. The point is I was talking 58 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to a kid came up in the break, a young 59 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: a young man, and we're talking about self doubt and 60 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: how we think, like what is what do I think of? 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: What do I feel versus what is real? Like what's 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: my thought? But what's the data? What's the evidence? And 63 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I was telling him about even though I've done this 64 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: thing lots of times, and I know, just from experience, 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: and evidence and data and feedback. I objectively know that 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm quite good at my job. I don't think I'm 67 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: a superstar. I don't think I'm the best in the business, 68 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: but I think I think the fact that I get 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: repeat work and companies asked me to come back, and 70 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: I get paid reasonly well, and I'm represented by quite 71 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: a few speaking agencies, and people often not always, but 72 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: often say really good things. And so there's that. But 73 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: at the same time, I have this ability, as I'm 74 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: guessing to you, to have evidence or data or proof 75 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: that I'm quite good at something while also feeling I'm 76 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: not good enough. Or Today's the day, and I've said 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: this before, Today's the day I'm going to go in 78 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: front of an audience of corporate audience and everybody's going 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: to realize, you know, this is what's going on in 80 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: my mind. Everybody's going to realize that I'm not good 81 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: at all. I've just been really fucking lucky for thirty 82 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: five years. I've just been getting away with it. Today's 83 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: the day that people will discover I'm pretty stupid. I 84 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: can string a few words together, but if you scrape 85 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: below the surface, there's not a lot of depth. Sure 86 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: he can remember a few big terms and it can 87 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: sound smart, but in truth he is not actually smart. 88 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: And today's going to be the day where that gets 89 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: publicly revealed. And of course that's going to be the 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: beginning of the capitulation of me and my brand and 91 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: my business and my income. Pretty soon I'm going to 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: be fucking broken. I'm gonna and so on. Now, that 93 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: might not be you, but it might be a version 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: of you at some times or at various times. So 95 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: my thoughts and my feelings have been you know, like 96 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: your ideas and your thoughts and your feelings can be 97 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: almost it can be something that's very positive or something 98 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: that's very negative. Your mind can be a prison or 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: your mind can be a launching pad for amazing stuff. 100 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: So I've always had when I say chronic self doubt, 101 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say overwhelming, paralyzing, crypto self doubt. 102 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: But I've always had a low hum. There's always been 103 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: a low hum of insecurity and fear and self limiting 104 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: thinking and self limiting beliefs and self doubt. And despite 105 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the fact, despite the fact that I've done quite well 106 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: with some things, obviously, I've done many things that didn't 107 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: go great, and that didn't work. And from an outcome 108 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: point of view, not from an experience or a learning 109 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: point of view, but purely from a result point of view, 110 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: you go, well, that didn't work or that was a failure. 111 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: But I've also done things that you know. I've written books, 112 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: I've worked on television. I've worked in radio. I've got 113 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: a pretty good podcast, thanks to you for following and supporting. 114 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: I've built businesses. I've owned multiple gyms, I've employed hundreds 115 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: of humans, I've made a few dollars. So, purely, just 116 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: from that point of view, not shit. But here's one 117 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: of the amazing things is about us humans and our 118 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: mind and our emotions, and our fear and our anxiety 119 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: and our amazing capacity to fucking get in our own way, 120 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: is despite all of those wins and all of those successes, 121 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: I often feel like, or think like the opposite of that, 122 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: And it's this is and I'm sure so do you. 123 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure that there have been times when, despite the 124 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: evidence or the data that you're not shit, that you 125 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: do in fact feel shit for a range of reasons. 126 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, and let's talk about how 127 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: we might be able to survive and thrive and have 128 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: these two things. I know I'm good enough while simultaneously 129 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: so that's evidence, that's data, that's knowledge. The reason I 130 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: know that I'm good enough is because I've done this 131 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: certain thing many many times, and I've created outcomes somewhere 132 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: between okay and brilliant. There have been a few time 133 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: times where I've fucked up, but overwhelmingly I seem to 134 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: be doing okay. Now that's started. That's evidence, But the 135 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: feeling is, as I said at the top of the show, 136 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm not good enough. So I mean, there was a 137 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: time when I absolutely thought that I could never be athletic, 138 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I could never be sporting. Now, of course I wasn't 139 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: inherently athletic or sporting. I wasn't naturally gifted genetically. I 140 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't the guy who would just rock up 141 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: and you know, run a race and win a race 142 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: with I was never that person, right, And so I 143 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: I genuinely believed thought that I was destined to be 144 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: basically the fat, unhealthy, non sporting, unathletic person. I thought 145 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: that was just going to be me. And as you know, 146 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: I lost some weight and all of that and So 147 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: that was the starting point for me that you know, 148 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: as a teenage kid losing all of that weight. But 149 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: what happened, what happened in the middle of losing all 150 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: of that weight, and that was really that that internal shift, 151 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: that kind of swinging of the emotional and psychological and 152 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: behavioral pendulum that was precipitated by or facilitated by a 153 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: painful moment in front of hundreds of people. So this 154 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: social experience which turned into an emotional and a psychological 155 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: experience that wasn't great, but what it was what was 156 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: great was that it was a catalyst for me to 157 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: go and not get better genetics, but to optimize the 158 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: genetics that I did have. Now, as you all know, 159 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: I got in shape. As you all know, I'm in 160 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: reasonably good shape these days. I'm not missed a bloody universe, 161 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not an international male model, never will be, 162 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: never could have been. But I'm in for my age 163 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: and all of that, I'm in pretty good shape. Nonetheless, 164 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: So that's the evidence that the data. You know, I 165 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: know what my body composition is, I know how tall 166 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: I am and how much I weigh, and I know 167 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: what I look like and for my age in genetics, 168 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm in pretty good shape. Nonetheless, do I ever feel 169 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: like shit? Do I ever think? And this is going 170 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: to sound emotional and stupid, but I'm just being honest. 171 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, and this might be this might get 172 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: me some ridicule, but I'm just going to say it. 173 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Do I ever feel that? Do I ever think I'm 174 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: out of shape? Do I think I look like rubbish? 175 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: I do? I still do, and that comes from a 176 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: bunch of places, but not all the time, by the way. 177 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: But do I ever do I have a look at 178 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: myself in a mirror? Do I ever get out of 179 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: the shower and go, I look fucking terrible? I'm I'm 180 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: now I know objectively that isn't true. Neither do I 181 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: think I look brilliant, by the way, or that I 182 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: am in magnificent shape. I'm not. I'm just talking about 183 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: the relationship that we can have with how we look, 184 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: with how we feel with our body, that whole body 185 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: dysmorphia thing. And I think I suffer from a smidgeon 186 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: of body dysmorphia. I find it hard, which is understandable, 187 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: to be objective about how I look. But as objective 188 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: as I can be I know, like the evidence, the 189 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: data says I'm not in bad shape. Like, for example, yesterday, 190 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: at the aforementioned gig I did with these kids, I 191 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: had a photo taken with a young man called Declan. 192 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: By the way, if you haven't seen that, fucking hell, 193 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: go and have a look at Declan. Here's a unit 194 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be. He might be the next big thing. 195 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: Great kid, nice young man, six ' five six ' five, 196 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: and a budding athletic superstar. Perhaps we'll see what he 197 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: does with it all, but definitely got a running start. 198 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: Good genetics. Anyway, we were chatting and we got a 199 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: photo taken and I'm standing next to the seventeen year 200 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: old giant, and for a moment I looked at myself 201 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: and I went apart from the fact that I looked tiny, 202 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: I went, ah, I don't look terrible. I don't look 203 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: And because I was just looking at a picture, I 204 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: was just looking at a photo, and I went oh, 205 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: And for a moment I could objectively, objectively realize that, 206 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, and so this this propensity that we have 207 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: to let our thinking and our feeling get in the way. 208 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: I think I'm this, or I think I'm not. I 209 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: think I'm too old. I think I can't do this. 210 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I feel like nobody would want to hear this or that. 211 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: You know. When I started my PhD, I was fifty six, 212 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: and of course part of me felt like I'm too 213 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: old to do this. And then on my first day, 214 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: which was November one, twenty nineteen, I was at union. 215 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: I was sitting in a room with a bunch of 216 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: other PhD students and I think there was about six 217 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: people in the room that I was in, six or seven. 218 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: I was in my cubicle. I had my own cubicle. 219 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: I looked around and they were all amazing, and they 220 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: were nice. Everybody welcomed me, everybody was gorgeous. But the 221 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: bottom line was the average age was probably twenty four 222 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: or twenty five, and at this point I'm fifty six, 223 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: so I'm more than double the average age. And overwhelmingly 224 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking, what the fuck am I doing? I 225 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: can't do this, I'm too old. This was a dumb idea. 226 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not them. I don't have the skills 227 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't have. I don't understand all the tech like 228 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: they do. I don't know. There was so many thoughts 229 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: and feelings going through my mind. Well, the evidence is 230 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: five years later, I'm still doing it. I'm still hanging 231 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: in there. I did the work. I'm still doing the work. 232 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully I'll be finished in the middle of the year. 233 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Am I a great student? No? Am I the best student? 234 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: No Am I gifted at that? No? Am I a natural? No? 235 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: But was my thinking wrong? I can't do a PhD? 236 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: It was was my emotional state driven by fear. Yes, 237 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: it was also totally understandable. But am I too old? Well? 238 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: Apparently not, because I'm doing it. You know, I think 239 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: about one of the kids said to me yesterday, how 240 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: old are you? When I said sixty one. It's funny 241 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: how kids don't have a filter, right, I don't mind anyway, 242 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: And I won't say what he said exactly, but it 243 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: involved the EF word. There were no teachers around, and 244 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, he was really complementary about what 245 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: shape I'm in. You know, you're in good shape, and 246 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And it's interesting because where typically at 247 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: and again remember there's there's no or I intend, no 248 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: ego to be in this, but at sixty one, most 249 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: people are really on the slide. Cognitively, brain stops working 250 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: as well as it did. Physiological decline, you know, bone 251 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: density drops, muscle drops, balanced speed, coordination, cardiovascular fitness, strength, 252 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, body composition. All of these things naturally start 253 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: to happen. And it's very easy to buy into that 254 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: that thinking. Is it well, of course, of course? But 255 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: what happens when you change your thinking and you think 256 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: rather than I'm too old or I can't or typically 257 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: people my age are doing this and not doing that, 258 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: what if you, even if you acknowledge all of that, 259 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: but you say, yeah, that's cool, But what would happen 260 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: if I did these things? What would happen if I 261 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: took a chance. What would happen if if I'm not 262 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: talking about me now, I'm talking about potentially you. What 263 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: if I enrolled in a course. What if I started 264 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: a small business. What if I went traveling by myself? 265 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: What if I for the first time? What if I 266 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: got stronger and fitter now at my age, whatever age 267 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: you are, than I've ever been, even when I was 268 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: in my twenties. What if I explore my talent, my 269 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: potential and my possibilities. What if I optimize what I have? 270 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: You know, there were times when when I wrote my 271 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: first book, for example, I didn't I had not a 272 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: lot of faith that I would ever finish that book, 273 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: or that I would ever publish that book, or that 274 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: anyone would want to read that book or recommend that book, 275 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: or that I would make one dollar from that book. 276 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: They are all the things that I thought. But I 277 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: also thought, well, what if I just write it. What 278 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: if I just write the book, and at the very least, 279 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to have an experience, At the very least, 280 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to put some thoughts and ideas. I was 281 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: working in a gym at the time. I didn't even 282 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: own my own gym when I first started writing that. 283 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: But what I thought was, at the very least, I'm 284 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: going to have some thoughts and ideas and stories and 285 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: strategies that might be valuable or of interest to my clients. 286 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: At the very least, I put it all down. I 287 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: wrote it down, I rewrote it, I showed it to 288 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: a few people, I edited it, I refined it, and 289 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: eventually it got published. And then eventually I wrote another book, 290 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: and that got published, and eventually a big publisher hit 291 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: me up and asked me to write a book for 292 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: them and paid me in advance and then another publisher 293 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: did the same thing, and so on, and then I 294 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: after that I self published. Am I brilliant writer? Probably not? 295 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Would anyone have Would anyone have been able to derail 296 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: me doing that? Probably if I had have listened to them. 297 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: But here's the thing in the mid the self doubt, 298 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: in the middle of the well, you've never written a book, 299 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: and you're not a writer, and no one's you know, 300 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: you've never had anything published, that kind of thinking. And 301 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: by the way, of course every author wrote a first book. 302 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: But in the middle of all of that, I can 303 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: still find a way. You can still find a way 304 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: to say, all right, well, I'm going to try, despite 305 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: my self doubt, despite the negative thinking, despite the disempowering beliefs. 306 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: What would happen if I try? I don't know, but 307 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to try. I for a very long time 308 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: thought that while I thought, maybe this is arrogance, but 309 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: I thought some of the things that ruminated in my 310 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: head about training and about change and about growth, and 311 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: about human potential and about the way that the mind works, 312 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: and about communication and connection and happiness and joy and 313 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: purpose and fulfillment and life and lifestyle and all of 314 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: these fucking amazing variables that make up the human experience. 315 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: I thought the shit that I thought about was interesting, 316 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: and I thought maybe some other people would want to 317 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: hear about how I see it, or how I work 318 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: through it, or how I navigate it and how I 319 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: help others. But at the same time, at the same time, 320 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: there was a lack of self belief. At the same time, 321 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: there was doubt, at the same time, there was fear. 322 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: At the same time, there was a parallel story saying, 323 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: who the fuck wants to hear or read what you think? 324 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: And so I think sometimes, clearly I haven't planned this well. 325 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: So I apologize if this sounds clunky. This is one 326 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: of the dangers of just doing lots and lots of 327 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: these monologues. But I think sometimes our ability to feel 328 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: that fear, or feel that self doubt, or recognize the 329 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: thought or the voice or the self doubt for what 330 00:19:54,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: it is, which is just generally a fear based I've 331 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: said many times on this that you know, I've been 332 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: for much of my life driven to I think part 333 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: of my drive, part of my moderate success, part of 334 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: my development, and part of my building of a brand 335 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and awareness and hopefully a little bit of respect you know, 336 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: broadly has been driven by the fact that I don't 337 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: think much of me. Now. I don't think I immersed 338 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: myself in self loathing, but I definitely, you know, there's 339 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: definitely been self limitation and self doubt and you know, 340 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: self sabotage. I don't think I'm a piece of shit. 341 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm worthless. But at the same time, 342 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: I've for a very long time thought, you don't have 343 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: a whole lot going for you up, so you better 344 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: do the very fucking best with what you've got. And so, 345 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: as I've said a few times here, you know, for me, 346 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: that mediocrity, that that not being innately gifted. For me, 347 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: that was something of almost like a personal superpower, you know, 348 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: because I knew that if I wanted to do well, 349 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: I just had to work hard. I knew I wouldn't 350 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: fall on my feet. I knew I wouldn't accidentally succeed. 351 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: And you know, and now at sixty one, you know 352 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: that that thinking, that self doubt thinking, that self sabotaging thinking, 353 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: that that fear based thinking, and those feelings and those 354 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: ideas they still slide into my consciousness and awareness. But 355 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: I think now I'm more able to recognize them for 356 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: what they are and what they're not. And what they 357 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: are is theoretical somethings floating in my head that are 358 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: probably being generated through fear and self doubt, which is intertwined. 359 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: But what my feelings and thoughts aren't is that they're 360 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: not facts, they're not data, they're not evidence. And so 361 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: there are times when you know, I need to look 362 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: out in front of me, like I for a long 363 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: time had a feeling that that if I stood in 364 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: front of an audience, I would probably be boring. And 365 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I was terrified of being boring. I knew that I 366 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: could talk, but there's a difference between being able to 367 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: talk to a group of people and being engaging and 368 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: funny and interesting and captivating and inspiring. And I didn't 369 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: know if I could do that. And then over time 370 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: that was somewhat alleviated. But I had I had an 371 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: epiphany about six or seven years ago and I was 372 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: at Deacon and I was doing a half day. I 373 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: was a open to the public. Was using Deacon as 374 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: a university in Melbourne for those of you who don't know, 375 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: and I was using their biggest lecture theater, which is 376 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy people. It was full, so just 377 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: under seven hundred people, and I was talking for three hours, 378 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: and we were maybe a couple of hours. In three and 379 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: a half hours, I think maybe we had a fifteen 380 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: minute break. But I remember looking out at one stage, 381 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: and as best as I could see, I had six 382 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy people sitting there fully focused. Maybe there 383 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: was a couple that weren't, but I had an entire 384 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: auditorium full of people either smiling, laughing, nodding, looking engaged, connected, 385 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: And my overwhelming feeling was gratitude. It was gratitude. But 386 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: I remember in that moment thinking to myself, don't forget this, 387 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: mister self doubt, Mister I'm boring, mister I'm not good enough, 388 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: mister overthinker, you know, mister inherent hardwired underachiever, don't forget this. Like, 389 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: look at is what? At what's going on right now? 390 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: And of course the priority is not me feeling good. 391 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: The priority is that I'm helping and serving and creating 392 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: an experience for people that might translate into real world change. 393 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: I get all of that, and all of that that 394 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: is the priority, But also for me, as this insecure, 395 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: ex fat kid from the fucking country to have this 396 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: moment in real time where I'm going. I'm looking around, 397 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not shit. I'm not shit. 398 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm interesting, I'm good at what I do. I'm I'm 399 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: people pay to come and hear me. Fuck, Like, this 400 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: is evidence, this is data, And you know, I think 401 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: that we have we do have this propensity some of us. 402 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps you're not that person, but if you're a 403 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: bit like me, then it almost doesn't matter what outcomes 404 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: you get in your world. You still find a way to, 405 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, locate that needle of negativity in a haystack 406 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: of hope. You know, all these things are going well, 407 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: but it's like, oh yeah, but what about this? And 408 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: then that all of these self doubt thoughts and ideas 409 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: kind of arise, and I think, you know, at the 410 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: same time, we want to keep our feet on the ground. 411 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: Humility is good, you know, staying hungry is good. But 412 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: we can acknowledge the data. We can acknowledge the evidence. 413 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: Oh I'm not shit, I'm doing okay. Even as I 414 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: do these podcasts, I'm thinking is this relevant? Like right now, 415 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: I thinking, is this relevant? Does anyone want to hear this? 416 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: You know these these things don't go away. But I 417 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: think one of our challenges is not to overcome fear, 418 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: not to overcome self doubt, not to overcome insecurity, not 419 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: to be this fucking psychological and emotional weapon that feels nothing, 420 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: but rather just to coexist with it successfully. Of course 421 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: you feel like shit sometimes that are welcome to the club. 422 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Course you're scared, yep. But being scared gives you an 423 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to be courageous because those things go together. Can 424 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: you be scared and brave? Of course you can. You 425 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: have to be scared to be brave. Can you do 426 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: amazing things despite the fact that you don't feel amazing? 427 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: Course you can. Can you create amazing outcomes and impact 428 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: the world or a few people, or make your own 429 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: life better and your mental and emotional health? Yeah you can. 430 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: You can. You know, perception is not potential, feelings are 431 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: not facts. And you, my friend, you've got way more 432 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: potential and way more possibilities than I think. Do you think? 433 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: See you next time?