Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Burray Live Today.
Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you. There's an lawful lot to
Speaker 1: get to this evening, including to the sillier end of things.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that there is a real government in Australia,
Speaker 1: not a local council, a real government in Australia that
Speaker 1: is going to introduce a rule about how much time
Speaker 1: you should spend with your peers. Seriously, this is a thing.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it tonight. Massive news for those of
Speaker 1: us who love Formula One. The boss of the Red
Speaker 1: Bull racing team, Christian Horner, has been sacked tonight. In fact,
Speaker 1: it's only happened in the past ninety minutes or so.
Speaker 1: Talk about a massive thing. This is the equivalent of
Speaker 1: a multiple time Premiership per footy coach getting the biscuit
Speaker 1: halfway through the season. I'll explain a little more in
Speaker 1: a moment or two time, and a reminder, we're coming
Speaker 1: to South Australia in just a couple of sundays. Time
Speaker 1: for our town in Mount Gambia. Mount Gambia is a
Speaker 1: beautiful part of Australia and I want as many people
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Speaker 1: email ourtown at skynews dot com dot au now being
Speaker 1: a night for the hard corese and thank you for
Speaker 1: being here this evening. I will get to some serious
Speaker 1: stuff in a second, but there was just a lot
Speaker 1: of other weird stuff that happened today that I thought
Speaker 1: I might begin our conversation with tonight, including if today
Speaker 1: felt just a little bit different than every other day,
Speaker 1: if you felt like you had not enough time to
Speaker 1: get around and do whatever it is that you did today, Well,
Speaker 1: guess what you are not incorrect, because a very strange
Speaker 1: scientific reason means that today, July the ninth, is the
Speaker 1: shortest day in the history of the world. Apparently it
Speaker 1: is one nano second shorter than the average day because
Speaker 1: of the rotation of the Earth and apparently the fact
Speaker 1: that the planet is getting ever so slightly smaller. Again
Speaker 1: the explanation that comes here via an American news website
Speaker 1: I think this one. Yeah. Earth is expected to complete
Speaker 1: a full rotation on the ninth of July at roughly
Speaker 1: one point three milliseconds less than the standard eighty six
Speaker 1: four hundred seconds that define as twenty four hour day.
Speaker 1: With that time difference imperceptible to humans, it does represent
Speaker 1: a broader pattern that has left scientists scratching their heads
Speaker 1: for years. After thousands of years of the Earth slowing down,
Speaker 1: Earth has been spinning faster in recent years, constantly breaking
Speaker 1: records for its shortest days. Now again, if you felt
Speaker 1: like today just was a millisecond faster, everything was a
Speaker 1: little bit, yes, because of the Earth's rotation and it
Speaker 1: getting smaller. I told you it was a weird day
Speaker 1: to day. As I mentioned, Can you believe there is
Speaker 1: a government anywhere in Australia that would tell you how
Speaker 1: much time you have to spend playing with your puppy? Well,
Speaker 1: that is apparently exactly what the Act Parliament is seriously considering.
Speaker 1: Dog owners must spend three hours minimum with their pets
Speaker 1: under a new proposed animal welfare law. Now I have
Speaker 1: no Again, this is one of those things where and
Speaker 1: all of us care about animal welfare, and all of
Speaker 1: us want to make sure that the pets and puppies
Speaker 1: and budgies and fish and all the rest of it
Speaker 1: in our lives live great lives. Okay, no question about that.
Speaker 1: But how are you supposed to prove it? Are you
Speaker 1: supposed to somehow sort of like the old punch in
Speaker 1: punch out clock? Are you supposed to put a stepper on? Rover?
Speaker 1: Is a council ranger going to follow you around? This
Speaker 1: is one of those things where it will be a recommendation,
Speaker 1: but if it's going to be potentially enforceable, how will
Speaker 1: it ever be enforced? The Act government and I know
Speaker 1: there are a lot of good people who watch us
Speaker 1: in the Act, but the joke still stands. In terms
Speaker 1: of its government, it is much more like a local
Speaker 1: council than it is a state parliament. Obviously the Northern
Speaker 1: Territory has fewer people but a much bigger area. But
Speaker 1: certainly of the territories and states, it's it's small and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's priorities, in my opinion, are also a little small. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now again, have a look at this under the draft
Speaker 1: Code of Practice for the Welfare Dogs. Welfare of Dogs
Speaker 1: in the Act features a number of mandatory standards, including
Speaker 1: restricting surgical barking, debarking good, that's weird, and making a
Speaker 1: compulsory for owners to provide animals with human contact for
Speaker 1: a reasonable length of time three hours minimum. Now again,
Speaker 1: the code include glidelines blah blah blah, and apparently you
Speaker 1: have some issues around retractable leads. Again, just just think
Speaker 1: this through for a second. Okay, Now, if you've got
Speaker 1: like a really active dog, you might be able to
Speaker 1: get three hours of cuddle time or walking in. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: fair enough. What do you do with a rabbit? What
Speaker 1: do you do with a snake? And who's going to
Speaker 1: police this? Believe it or not. A great free thinker,
Speaker 1: that is John Roscombe has a strong opinion about this
Speaker 1: because he sent a story to me to talk about
Speaker 1: when we have a chat a little bit later in
Speaker 1: the show. A passionate pet owner himself. How would he
Speaker 1: feel about a government or somebody following you around with
Speaker 1: a clicker telling you whether it's okay or not to
Speaker 1: spend more time with your pair fed InCom All right.
Speaker 1: Third silly story around today, and again there's lots of stuff,
Speaker 1: but come on, you deserve a smile every now and then.
Speaker 1: This one involves two of the world's biggest diplomats, well,
Speaker 1: one of the world's biggest diplomats and Penny Wong. Penny
Speaker 1: Wong is, of course, our Foreign Affairs minister American version
Speaker 1: is the Secretary of State, who is Marco Rubio, the
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks they ended up having a meeting together.
Speaker 1: But as the way the world works, there obviously in contact,
Speaker 1: plenty of little messages and all the rest of it,
Speaker 1: and whatever secret mobile phones that they use. Well, according
Speaker 1: to the Washington Post today, somebody who has been has
Speaker 1: been an impostor pretending to be Marco Rubio and has
Speaker 1: apparently been trying to call people in the American government
Speaker 1: or foreign ministers around the world and pretend to be
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio. This was the detail from NBC when it
Speaker 1: was Primetime News, because of course somehow it links to
Speaker 1: Orange Man Bad, but of course it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with them. It's an impostor who somehow has got
Speaker 1: the numbers of the people that would be in his
Speaker 1: fine and have been reaching out. Was Penny Wong one
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: The actor used AI to contact at least five high
Speaker 2: level government officials in mid June, including three foreign ministers,
Speaker 2: a governor, and a member of Congress.
Speaker 1: Please go on.
Speaker 2: The individual using the display name Marco Rubio at State
Speaker 2: dot gov also left voicemails on the messaging app signal
Speaker 2: for at least two targeted persons.
Speaker 1: So is pennywe one of these people? Now they had
Speaker 1: a very recent meeting. They clearly were preparing for the meeting.
Speaker 1: But what I find really interesting about this is the
Speaker 1: by choosing to say nothing, what is going on here?
Speaker 1: In the Australian newspaper their version of the story today,
Speaker 1: the Foreign Minister Penny Wong has a climb to comment
Speaker 1: on whether she was one of three foreign ministers contacted
Speaker 1: by artificial intelligence with somebody impersonating the US Secretary of
Speaker 1: State Marco Rubia. When asked whether Senator Wong had been
Speaker 1: contacted by the impostor over the encrypted message signal, which
Speaker 1: is basically another version of a WhatsApp, Right, a spokesman, please, spokesperson,
Speaker 1: we're in twenty twenty five, declined to comment, citing the
Speaker 1: ongoing investigations in the United States. Now I get it.
Speaker 1: These people are all very sort of super careful and
Speaker 1: they don't want to say But if it wasn't you,
Speaker 1: you just say no, of course not. But thanks for it,
Speaker 1: thanks for the inquiry, but no, I'm not one of them.
Speaker 1: Move on, and it's a crazy story, right, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is the national security stuff. But encrypted apps people end
Speaker 1: up people's numbers. This is not a giant surprise, right, Thankfully,
Speaker 1: it's not somebody turning around knocking on a hotel door
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night or going to their
Speaker 1: house or something more physically dangerous. But with the greatest
Speaker 1: respect to Marco Rubio, it did get me thinking, let's
Speaker 1: just imagine that Pennywong was one of the ministers who
Speaker 1: was contacted. Her public presentation is fairly robotic, a little
Speaker 1: bit ai, dare I say, and Marco Rubio again, at times,
Speaker 1: can be a little ai. So we decided to use
Speaker 1: AI to try to show the speech bubbles of what
Speaker 1: their conversation would look like. The problem is, would either
Speaker 1: of them have known that it wasn't a real person
Speaker 1: on the other end of the line, Oh dare you
Speaker 1: say that Pennywong's a national treasure? Now increasingly not a
Speaker 1: day goes by without someone in the left turning around
Speaker 1: and basically saying, Hey, you know, China, let's do more
Speaker 1: of what they do a trillion times. For all the
Speaker 1: obvious reasons about why that is a terrible idea, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be more like China. I'd be more
Speaker 1: like America, the UK, the New Zealand Free Countries, right,
Speaker 1: not China. Well, today, the boss of the Energy Council
Speaker 1: was giving a speech of the National Press Club. I
Speaker 1: know were you watching two And normally I would not
Speaker 1: care at all about presenting what the Energy Council boss
Speaker 1: was saying at the National Press Club, because he was
Speaker 1: saying all the obvious. Well, this in part is what
Speaker 1: he said today China plays as a team, essentially kind
Speaker 1: of saying it's good the way they are dealing with
Speaker 1: climate change issues, even though we know they're the world's
Speaker 1: biggest polluta. This is in part what this bloke said.
Speaker 1: He is the boss of the Smart Energy Council. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's better than you and I, and he knows
Speaker 1: more about the future than you and I. And unbelievably
Speaker 1: he said this, and there was not a gasp in
Speaker 1: the room when he said it.
Speaker 3: One thing you can say about the Chinese system is
Speaker 3: that China plays as a team.
Speaker 1: They don't play as a team the Chinese government, not
Speaker 1: the Chinese people, nor the citizens here in Australia. No,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get me on that one. It
Speaker 1: is a ruthless machine that, as you saw back in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, will put tanks in front of protesters,
Speaker 1: let alone people in jail for invented crimes. The idea
Speaker 1: that you would be able to launch a protest about
Speaker 1: any planned mass development in your part of China. Good luck,
Speaker 1: you will be depersoned within a moment. And deperson does
Speaker 1: not mean not allowed to use Twitter. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: care if it's a joke. I don't care if it's flipping.
Speaker 1: How can you say this? Unbelievably, There was plenty more
Speaker 1: that he had to say about China. In fact, it
Speaker 1: was kind of on his today.
Speaker 3: And Australia spends all of our time trying to tear
Speaker 3: each other apart. That is no way to compete for
Speaker 3: Team Australia.
Speaker 1: Okay. In a free country, you are allowed to disagree
Speaker 1: with your government. You are allowed to disagree with your
Speaker 1: fellow citizens. You are allowed to do so out of principle,
Speaker 1: out of opinion, out of because it's Tuesday. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: our country. You are allowed to say, I don't like
Speaker 1: what is happening in this country. We tear ourselves apart,
Speaker 1: not because and they all want to pretend that this
Speaker 1: is you know, we're still twenty years ago and there's
Speaker 1: a conversation about whether climate change is or isn't a
Speaker 1: thing right, Australia needs to do our bit. Why because
Speaker 1: all the evidence is there about what's happening to the world.
Speaker 1: But austraight as one percent of the global problem. Yes,
Speaker 1: a certain section of the country. Last election would tell
Speaker 1: us about a third of the country doesn't agree with
Speaker 1: what the government's plan is, which is to move from
Speaker 1: an energy system that has worked for decades, that was
Speaker 1: cheap for decades, to a new one that, fingers crossed
Speaker 1: after it's built, after it's paid off, will theoretically be cheaper.
Speaker 1: But there are plenty of people who quite reasonably have
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that the amount of cost and
Speaker 1: effort of the new system doesn't do as good a
Speaker 1: job as the old system, and that yes, while one
Speaker 1: is going to be more polluting than the other, the
Speaker 1: new one requires how much bush to be cut down,
Speaker 1: how many new wires to go up, how many new
Speaker 1: farms to essentially just be trampled China style?
Speaker 4: This bloke said China over and over and over and
Speaker 4: over again in his speech today, and again, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I've never heard of this bloke before, Okay, and I
Speaker 4: know because I'm nipping at his heels. It will be
Speaker 4: roll gold now on the ABC. Okay, the official sort
Speaker 4: of you know, tick of approval. You've annoyed the people
Speaker 4: in Sky in his primetime. But these are the people
Speaker 4: that are not just lobbying our governments. But I've been
Speaker 4: given front and center at the National Press Club. That's
Speaker 4: the same place the Prime Minister has given speeches, the
Speaker 4: same place eminent Australians have given speeches. Yet again, no.
Speaker 1: Gasp, no reaction. I guarantee this will be the most
Speaker 1: chat about it that you're probably going to hear. But
Speaker 1: if you get a chape chance, go back and watch
Speaker 1: the tapes, read the transcripts. Of course I don't need
Speaker 1: to point out, but I will when it comes to
Speaker 1: China and specifically renewable energy, when it comes to renewable
Speaker 1: energy products that I'm made out of China, I have
Speaker 1: this bloke and everyone else who thinks, why can't we
Speaker 1: be a little more CCP remembers the Wigas. The Wigas
Speaker 1: is a religious minority in China, a minion of which
Speaker 1: have been imprisoned and among other things that they are
Speaker 1: doing when the females are not being assaulted in horrific ways,
Speaker 1: that far right wing institution, the BBC, remember tells us
Speaker 1: that the weaker population is being used as force labor,
Speaker 1: slave labor to make solar panels, the same ones we
Speaker 1: import into this country. This is such a problem that
Speaker 1: even Joe Biden, who didn't even know what day it
Speaker 1: was or what city he was in when he was president,
Speaker 1: banned the importation of slave labor solar panels. Australia has
Speaker 1: not made that decision. And when it comes to China
Speaker 1: and China being able to solve the global problem, remember,
Speaker 1: as I've told you before about the climate clock. Right,
Speaker 1: let's go like play school. You can get from here
Speaker 1: to about quarter past and that's China. This is the
Speaker 1: rest of the developing world or the global South. This
Speaker 1: is India, this is the United States, this is Russia.
Speaker 1: Forty five of the sixty minutes of countries, if it
Speaker 1: was a clock, are either completely out or don't care
Speaker 1: about net zero twenty thirty. China pollutes what Australia does
Speaker 1: in one year in sixteen days. We should be more
Speaker 1: like China. They all pull together. This is truly outrageous,
Speaker 1: but what a little insight into how they truly think
Speaker 1: and what they truly think of people who stand in
Speaker 1: their way and They're not saying that because climate change
Speaker 1: is an existential crisis and anyone who is slowing us
Speaker 1: up by a day is committing our kids to horrible futures. No,
Speaker 1: it's because there's plenty of money. And then the valleys
Speaker 1: and then they are hills. And again about China, they
Speaker 1: are currently at a ten year high the amount of
Speaker 1: coal power plants they are currently producing. Had a look
Speaker 1: on one of those lefty websites that is all very
Speaker 1: pro massive things to do with the renewable energy. Have
Speaker 1: a look at the graph. There's the past ten years.
Speaker 1: The red is just how much new coal construction, new
Speaker 1: not ongoing, new coal power plants last year a ten
Speaker 1: year high. Oh, but we should be more like China.
Speaker 1: Actually go back, Can we play it again? Play again
Speaker 1: the very first bit of this guy from this council
Speaker 1: and his view. Remember remember when Tony Abott we're talking
Speaker 1: about Team Australia, just backing in the awesomeness of Australia
Speaker 1: and doing your best for Australia. Oh, pillar read and
Speaker 1: how many things were written in all of those opinion
Speaker 1: pieces everywhere. Well, how many will be written about the
Speaker 1: bloke who said this in our national capital today.
Speaker 3: One thing you can say about the Chinese system is
Speaker 3: that China plays as a team.
Speaker 1: You know. I want to say more, but we'll get
Speaker 1: to it in a moment of two stime. Now, as
Speaker 1: you know, climate change is the obsession of certain parts
Speaker 1: of the left. The reality for the extreme majority of
Speaker 1: Australians has been how much everything costs. It always has been.
Speaker 1: Ever Thus you've ever had a bill, We've always had
Speaker 1: that part of our lives. We're going, geez, what's all
Speaker 1: this about. Well, the reality is that cost of living
Speaker 1: was a major issue. Two thirds of Australians, either by
Speaker 1: first or second vote, decided to vote for the government
Speaker 1: to stick around. But of course all of the indices
Speaker 1: that come out tell us that, apparently cost of living
Speaker 1: crisis is totally over. I mean, just listen to the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister in the snake charm.
Speaker 5: Costs of living, cost of living, cost of living, cost
Speaker 5: of living, costive living, cost of living, costive living, cost
Speaker 5: of living, costive living, cost of living, cost of living,
Speaker 5: cost of living, cost of living, cost of living.
Speaker 1: Ah, but they think we've turned the corner, you see,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter anymore. And as I told you,
Speaker 1: a couple of nights ago, almost half half of all
Speaker 1: of the economists that the Price can Harrison website finder
Speaker 1: got in touch with said the cost of living crisis
Speaker 1: is over. Well, isn't that excellent news? You might want
Speaker 1: to tell that too the people who responded to another
Speaker 1: consumer website survey, because cost of living is triggering mental
Speaker 1: health issues for millions of Australians. Now, I know, I
Speaker 1: talked about it for months, talked about it for years.
Speaker 1: Oh there he goes again, whenever he talks about money.
Speaker 1: It's boring. Well, I just think when you get information
Speaker 1: about average Australians, regardless of whether they vote left, right
Speaker 1: or center, whether they are of all genders, all political persuasions,
Speaker 1: all football teams, no football teams, that it's a relevant story. Again,
Speaker 1: we have a look here. Almost half of Australians admit
Speaker 1: cost and living pressures are impacting their mental health as
Speaker 1: millions millions were denied further relief. But it came to
Speaker 1: the interest rates this week fresh research from Now I
Speaker 1: know it's kind of Pon's institutey, but you get the point.
Speaker 1: Compare the Market found forty eight point seven percent of
Speaker 1: Australians now experience or have heightened feelings of anxiety depression
Speaker 1: due to money issues. So you can stick a where
Speaker 1: the sun doesn't shine. That, oh, half the economists say,
Speaker 1: because this inde season, that inter season, the one point
Speaker 1: two and the four point five and the minus the two,
Speaker 1: and everything's okay here in the Chamnel's lounge. Seriously, remember
Speaker 1: inflation may well be two percent, not six percent, not full,
Speaker 1: and that's great. But when you put together this month's
Speaker 1: increased to that month's increase, to this year to the
Speaker 1: year before, it's like this. You know what you're living
Speaker 1: at and the prices will never come down. Why because
Speaker 1: for all the obvious reasons, if anyone can make a buck,
Speaker 1: they'll keep making a buck. Can we go back to
Speaker 1: the statement heure gen Z was fearing the worse when
Speaker 1: it came to the price pressures, as seventy two percent
Speaker 1: of respondents in the Comparison Sides survey reported mental health
Speaker 1: strainers money was over moneyise. Millennials followed with fifty six
Speaker 1: percent saying they felt mental health challenges over the cost pressures. Well,
Speaker 1: forty eight percent of Gen X and twenty nine percent
Speaker 1: of Baby Boomers feel the same. Honor but it's all okay,
Speaker 1: We've turned the corner. It's over. I get it. Look
Speaker 1: at the scoreboard. They won ninety four seats to four
Speaker 1: fifth of bugger all of the opposition. But this is
Speaker 1: not about the election. This is about our country, and
Speaker 1: this is about our media who just want to move
Speaker 1: on in many ways from these things. And I get it.
Speaker 1: It's not a university study, it's not a plebiscite or
Speaker 1: a referendum. But still, how how far away could you
Speaker 1: possibly be? Half of all of economists They turn around
Speaker 1: and say, we've turned the corner, the crisis is over.
Speaker 1: Whereas the numbers, as I just told you, generation by generation,
Speaker 1: seventy two percent of Gen Z is feeling anxious about money,
Speaker 1: fifty six percent of millennials, forty eight percent of Gen X,
Speaker 1: and twenty nine percent of Baby boomers. I would call
Speaker 1: that more than half of the country. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the piece of work that was Jeffrey Epstein. What are
Speaker 1: still this has been? What a wild ride? Now you
Speaker 1: don't need me to tell you, but this bloke was
Speaker 1: a piece of This is a bloke who wasn't kinky,
Speaker 1: He was a creep. Now it has been officially ruled
Speaker 1: that he killed himself in a New York jail. The
Speaker 1: guards just fell asleep at exactly the right time and
Speaker 1: the camera cut out yet. But that's where the official
Speaker 1: story is, okay, And forgive me for wondering out loud
Speaker 1: whether you believe that or not, but that is the
Speaker 1: official line, just like the magic bullet and JFK Right. Well,
Speaker 1: the issue that many people have been discussing since he
Speaker 1: was arrested was, Okay, the way this bloke used to
Speaker 1: live his life was he used to hang out with
Speaker 1: really rich, really famous, really important, really powerful people, And
Speaker 1: there were many ways that you could hang out with him.
Speaker 1: You could come over to his house, you could fly
Speaker 1: on his plane, the Lolita Express, or you could of course,
Speaker 1: go and spend a couple of nights at Jeffrey Epstein's island.
Speaker 1: In all of those locations, there had been allegations about
Speaker 1: underage girls being procured for sex or sexual interactions in
Speaker 1: all three of those locations. So when the kingpin falls,
Speaker 1: a lot of people were wondering, okay, so when's the
Speaker 1: list going to come out about all of the people
Speaker 1: who may well have been to those three things and
Speaker 1: may or may not have done what he did at
Speaker 1: one of those three locations. Of course, it was the
Speaker 1: Epstein list.
Speaker 6: They include associates, friends, and alleged victims of the disgraced
Speaker 6: billionaire who died in jail five years ago.
Speaker 7: The pages revealing around one hundred and fifty people mentioned
Speaker 7: in previously redacted parts of the Gillen Maxwell suit.
Speaker 8: More than two hundred previously redacted names linked to Jeffrey
Speaker 8: Epstein have been made public tonight.
Speaker 9: A federal judge ordered the unredacted documents to be released
Speaker 9: last month.
Speaker 1: So there is a list, well, apparently not, because the FBI,
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, and Trump's administration have now turned
Speaker 1: around and said there is no list now. Of course,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why some people we're looking forward
Speaker 1: to a Trump administration was this list that we'd heard
Speaker 1: about how many times from different places that would come
Speaker 1: out now for anyone who says, well, obviously, the reason
Speaker 1: it didn't come out a because Donald Trump's on the list.
Speaker 1: You don't think that Joe Biden and his staff, if
Speaker 1: Trump was anywhere near the list, would not have been
Speaker 1: linked or leaked all the rest of it. But the
Speaker 1: official decision today is there is no list.
Speaker 10: A new Justice Department memo reveals that the Justice Department
Speaker 10: has no evidence that convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed
Speaker 10: powerful people or kept a client list.
Speaker 11: Investigators say they found no incriminating client list of Epstein's,
Speaker 11: no credible evidence that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals, and no
Speaker 11: evidence that could predicate keep an investigation against uncharged third parties.
Speaker 6: Accius atteam obtained a memo from the DJ that concludes
Speaker 6: Epstein did not have a client list and that he
Speaker 6: died by suicide.
Speaker 1: Nothing to see. You remember that movie Men in Black
Speaker 1: where they hold up the thing and they go, whoo oh,
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't remember anything. That's the trick
Speaker 1: they're trying to pull now. Either there never was, which
Speaker 1: means everyone's been lying for all of this time, but
Speaker 1: nobody has come out to ever correct the lie and
Speaker 1: just let it run and run and run and run
Speaker 1: and run. But of course, if there was no list,
Speaker 1: if there was no information, all of those media outlets
Speaker 1: that I showed you before that would have been loyal
Speaker 1: to the Biden worldview, well, they would have repeated there's
Speaker 1: nothing to see here, but the lady who became the
Speaker 1: Attorney General in the United States. Thus the person who
Speaker 1: became in charge of the Department of Justice with responsibility
Speaker 1: for people like the FBI. Well, she has kind of
Speaker 1: been saying pretty clearly that there was a list. Here
Speaker 1: she is, I think about four months ago.
Speaker 7: The DOJ maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Speaker 1: Well, that really happened.
Speaker 9: It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
Speaker 9: been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm
Speaker 9: reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process
Speaker 9: of being reviewed because that was done at the directive
Speaker 9: of the president from all of these agencies.
Speaker 1: So have you seen anything that you said, Oh, my gosh,
Speaker 1: not yet. But that wasn't the only time she talked
Speaker 1: about it. In fact, a few days later they actually
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of influencers who had interest in
Speaker 1: this from the incident, gave them a whole bunch of binders.
Speaker 1: There was nothing new in any of it, but there
Speaker 1: was this big song and dance and she said this
Speaker 1: on television. Remember, as the person in charge of the
Speaker 1: very body that could tell us whether there was or
Speaker 1: wasn't a list. Second example of her saying there is well,
Speaker 1: and truly a list.
Speaker 9: You're going to see hopefully tomorrow as a lot of
Speaker 9: flight logs, a lot of names, a lot a lot
Speaker 9: of information. But it's it's pretty sick what that man did.
Speaker 1: Reque that grab, let's play that again. Lots of names,
Speaker 1: lots of details. Okay again, no wigs or words here, expectations.
Speaker 1: You are right up to hear that there's documents you've
Speaker 1: never seen because the list has been hidden for all
Speaker 1: the obvious and spooky reasons. What did she say again?
Speaker 9: What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow is a lot
Speaker 9: of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot a
Speaker 9: lot of information, but it's it's pretty sick what that
Speaker 9: man did.
Speaker 1: So over the weekend they decided to go to sort
Speaker 1: of an inside baseball Washington news thing called Axios, and
Speaker 1: they said, no, there's nothing more to see here. Nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing happened. So the past couple of days have been
Speaker 1: watching people go, sorry, what you said? All of that?
Speaker 1: You said all of that. I didn't say that. You
Speaker 1: said all of that, right, you're the one who didn't
Speaker 1: just set expectations, but kinda was pulling the horse to water,
Speaker 1: and the horse was thirsty to know what was happening. Well,
Speaker 1: today there was a cabinet meeting in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Of course, sheared by President Donald Trump, who wanted to
Speaker 1: well magically pretend no one wants to talk about this,
Speaker 1: and you know, I like Trump, but come on, are
Speaker 1: you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked
Speaker 1: about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this,
Speaker 1: we have all of the things, and are people still
Speaker 1: talking about this guy? This crip that is unbelievable. But
Speaker 1: eventually the person who said everything that you've heard before,
Speaker 1: the Attorney general or she had to speak because she
Speaker 1: couldn't quite scarp her off. She's sitting right there. You
Speaker 1: don't leave if the president hasn't left, and everyone's sitting
Speaker 1: down and there's no escape. So what did she say? Today?
Speaker 9: I was asked a question about the client list, and
Speaker 9: my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed,
Speaker 9: meaning the file along with the JFK MLK files as well.
Speaker 9: That's what I meant by that. Also, to the tens
Speaker 9: of thousands of video they turned out to be child
Speaker 9: porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is
Speaker 9: what they were never going to be released, never going
Speaker 9: to see the lighted day.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you would have known that right like first
Speaker 1: week in the job, first month, first you know, littleone,
Speaker 1: the release of the pump up and all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. One person left on the planet. May May
Speaker 1: May one day tell us whether there is or isn't.
Speaker 1: It was his girlfriend, Glaine Maxwell, of course is in jail,
Speaker 1: and rightly so, and she will be for the best
Speaker 1: part of twenty years. Why because she went and fanned
Speaker 1: the underage women who were then subsequently abused by Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: But listen to some of the media reports at the time,
Speaker 1: does she know more? Well, you make up your own mind.
Speaker 11: Prosecutor say that she recruited in g room four girls
Speaker 11: between nineteen ninety four and two thousand and four for Epstein,
Speaker 11: her a longtime associate and former boyfriend.
Speaker 7: Maxwell was convicted of helping to recruit young girls to
Speaker 7: be abused by her longtime associate Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 12: Back in December, Gilaine Maxwell has been sentenced to twenty
Speaker 12: years in prison for helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse teenage girl.
Speaker 13: The former socialite who counted Royalty as friends, has been
Speaker 13: jailed for twenty years for conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to
Speaker 13: sexually abuse young girls.
Speaker 1: I love motorsports. Supercars is my love, but second to
Speaker 1: it is the world of Formula One and what a
Speaker 1: massive story in that sport. And I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people in Australia well and truly we stay up
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night to watch everything from
Speaker 1: practice all the way through to races. Saturday nights. Qualifying
Speaker 1: around eleven o'clock is always amazing to watch. And the
Speaker 1: Red Bull Racing team has been a phenomen one for
Speaker 1: the past twenty or so years. In fact, of the
Speaker 1: more than four hundred races that they have competed in,
Speaker 1: there one at least a quarter of them over the
Speaker 1: entire twenty years of it being in place. This year, however,
Speaker 1: the form has started to fall away. Just two years
Speaker 1: ago they won all but one of the races that
Speaker 1: entire season. Maxvstappen is of course the driver who has
Speaker 1: won them many a world title and apparently we're so
Speaker 1: unhappy with the way things were going that maybe, just
Speaker 1: maybe he was going to go off to another team.
Speaker 1: So we learned to diet that his boss, Christian Horner,
Speaker 1: the very man who put the team together, built it,
Speaker 1: took it to not one but multiple drivers titles, with
Speaker 1: multiple drivers, multiple constructors championships is gone out. Is that
Speaker 1: because Max has gone somewhere else or is it because
Speaker 1: they need to get rid of him to keep Max.
Speaker 1: Suffice to say, the news has been massive. The statement
Speaker 1: from Red Bull tonight was breaking news all over the
Speaker 1: F one world.
Speaker 12: Red Balls chiefstive of Corporate Projects and Investments, Oliver minslaf
Speaker 12: has had this to say about Horner. We would like
Speaker 12: to thank Christian Horner for his exceptional work over the
Speaker 12: last twenty years. With his tireless commitment, experience, expertise and
Speaker 12: innovative thinking, he has been instrumental in establishing Red Bull
Speaker 12: Racing as one of the most successful and attractive teams
Speaker 12: in Formula one. Thank you for everything, Christian, and you
Speaker 12: will forever remain an important part of our team history.
Speaker 1: Now. I know there's been scandals in the past, my
Speaker 1: view is that I reckon that it is all about
Speaker 1: keeping or after they have lost Max. So we'll find
Speaker 1: that out in the next little while. Martin Brundle is
Speaker 1: of course the legend of motorsport from the UK. He's
Speaker 1: the guy who is in the commentary box each and
Speaker 1: every one of those sessions that we stay up in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night to watch. And he is
Speaker 1: a very passionate motorsport not just fan, but also person
Speaker 1: who's aware of the success and British based success of
Speaker 1: Christian Horner. This is what he said to Fox Sports,
Speaker 1: sorry Fox Sports, Sky Sports in the UK. I'm quite
Speaker 1: sad about it. If I'm honest.
Speaker 6: I consider Christian a friend and he send an incredible
Speaker 6: job there for twenty years, won an awful lot of
Speaker 6: races and world championships for drivers and for the team,
Speaker 6: and he took it from what was the Stewart team
Speaker 6: through Jaguar and it was struggling to a massive campus
Speaker 6: in Milton Keynes and an awful lot of success and
Speaker 6: a huge trophy cabinet. But you know, it's not been
Speaker 6: difficult to feel in the Formula one paddock and to
Speaker 6: observe and to hear that things were not particularly rosy.
Speaker 1: Now they're all very well paid, but how brutal can
Speaker 1: sport be? And it's one of the reasons I love motorspoort.
Speaker 1: Either there is no gray area, you win or you lose.
Speaker 1: Two years ago, they won all about one race. Two
Speaker 1: years later, the bloke who built the team hired all
Speaker 1: of the right people and won so many idols. Gone
Speaker 1: more in a sect here on Pulmurray Life plenty more
Speaker 1: to discuss, including Yeah, I want to hear what John
Speaker 1: Roscombe has to say about this story about the act
Speaker 1: now putting rules down about how much time you should
Speaker 1: spend with your puppy. More in a second. Let's get
Speaker 1: into a conversation now with two guys who are kind
Speaker 1: of team Red, kind of team Blue, but more importantly
Speaker 1: they're from great think tanks. But they're very free to
Speaker 1: speak their mind and they will do so right now.
Speaker 1: John Roscom is of course with the IPA, and Ed
Speaker 1: Kavanah is with the McKell Institute, a carry out a
Speaker 1: champ from last week, Welcome back, my friends. So this
Speaker 1: bloke from the Smart Energy Council goes and plays a
Speaker 1: home game, which is giving a speech in camera to
Speaker 1: a room that of course was going to say nothing
Speaker 1: other than yes, absolutely wonderful, what a great idea of
Speaker 1: the National Party. They're terrible what nation? Oh, but he
Speaker 1: decided to get a little bit excited and dare I
Speaker 1: say that sort of you know the inner lefty in
Speaker 1: him who goes, you know what, would be great no opposition,
Speaker 1: So he decided to drop this as a reference to
Speaker 1: China as being the way to go when it comes
Speaker 1: to getting what you want out of the government.
Speaker 3: One thing you can say about the Chinese system is
Speaker 3: that China plays as a team.
Speaker 9: Ed.
Speaker 1: What the heck did he mean? And would he slightly
Speaker 1: regret it once he got back to the hotel because
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous.
Speaker 7: Well, he might be regretting it after this, after the
Speaker 7: coverage tonight. Look, my view is that we shouldn't be
Speaker 7: looking to China for influence on our energy policy, whichever
Speaker 7: way we're going on energy policy. You know, I don't
Speaker 7: think we should be looking at them for inspiration on
Speaker 7: a clean energy future, nor should we be looking at
Speaker 7: them for inspiration on a fossil fuel led future. And
Speaker 7: the sort of irony in this is there's a lot
Speaker 7: of outrage about this individual citing some of the climate
Speaker 7: achievements of the Chinese government. But we always hear here
Speaker 7: in Australia that we should be doing less on climate
Speaker 7: because of what China's doing, because they're going down a
Speaker 7: certain energy path around fossil fuels, so we should do
Speaker 7: the same.
Speaker 1: So ten your highs.
Speaker 7: In my view, we should be going an Australian way
Speaker 7: and we shouldn't necessarily be taking our cues from the
Speaker 7: Chinese government on energy policy, whichever way they looks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my issue is, as always, right what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: do you have to do something short one percent of
Speaker 1: the world's problem, you know, and if you've got forty
Speaker 1: five of the sixty minutes on that climate clock kind
Speaker 1: of in many ways either making things worse or spinning
Speaker 1: their wheels. That's my issue. It's not an argument against
Speaker 1: a need for certain transitions. But John again to the
Speaker 1: heart of it here, right, Oh, China, they all play
Speaker 1: as a team. They all play as a team. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you try and be a free thinker in China. You
Speaker 1: try and say, I don't want that in my backyard.
Speaker 1: No nimbis in China, No Nimbi's there.
Speaker 14: Well, this is the problem, Paul, that too many people
Speaker 14: from the world of business talk about the certainty and
Speaker 14: the direction and the clarity that totalitarian regimes provide. Well,
Speaker 14: there is a difference in Australia. We are a democracy.
Speaker 14: You can speak your mind for the moment at least
Speaker 14: we can debate climate change, we can debate energy policy.
Speaker 14: And the tragedy of what was talked about in the
Speaker 14: Press club this week is that the Speaker John Grimes
Speaker 14: played a significant role in the last federal election. His
Speaker 14: in Joe's costing of the coalition's nuclear power policies were
Speaker 14: cited by the government and he had a huge role,
Speaker 14: huge influence in the debate. They've acknowledged they donate to
Speaker 14: the Labor Party and here's some bloke telling us.
Speaker 1: We should be like China. Yeah, it is honestly one
Speaker 1: of those moments where you just go cool, COOLi horses,
Speaker 1: that's too far right, You might think, look at the
Speaker 1: scooreboard ninety something seats and there'll be no opposition for
Speaker 1: any time, you know, the fact bloke yelling on the telly,
Speaker 1: who cares all right? The people watching it off or
Speaker 1: they just keep voting the way they do. Seriously, No,
Speaker 1: that was a bad call today. Now, perfect example about
Speaker 1: what we refer to and everyone's referred to as well
Speaker 1: as a bit of a sort of a gulf between
Speaker 1: dare I say, the front end of the plane and
Speaker 1: the people who can't even afford to fly on the plane,
Speaker 1: but it the elites or anything else, right, would be
Speaker 1: half of all economists telling consumer website, oh we've turned
Speaker 1: the corner. Cost of crisis is over because this in
Speaker 1: the season this month, and carry the one and carry
Speaker 1: the two. Nothing to see here, and another consumer website
Speaker 1: that says that more than half of Australians have serious
Speaker 1: mental health conditions because of the cost of living. Right,
Speaker 1: let's talk not about whether we turn the corner or not.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it at the distance between two worlds. John, Now,
Speaker 1: to me, it is that thing where and I have
Speaker 1: always banged on about it, which is when you get
Speaker 1: anything that tells you millions of Australians are then it
Speaker 1: starts to move its way towards the top of my
Speaker 1: attention list. Right, So, the three million Australians this close
Speaker 1: to homelessness, three and a bit million Australian households that
Speaker 1: are going to run out of food, I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about that. Right. Some people will want to swatt
Speaker 1: it away because it's not going to matter politically, or
Speaker 1: it's not that interesting to watch on tell levision, But Bugret,
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about it. Right. What do you
Speaker 1: think about this little golf here? Again, we're kind of
Speaker 1: talking about the Ponds Institute versus the Palmolav Institute. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about the IPA and the mckel. So I'm
Speaker 1: getting that it's not great intellectual riga here. But it
Speaker 1: does seem that you've got two people with two very
Speaker 1: different world views, John, which one do you think actually matters?
Speaker 1: And it's going to disappoint people because it's going to
Speaker 1: be people more like the front end of the plane
Speaker 1: and that bloke talking about China.
Speaker 14: Well, it's the view of mainstream Australians that has to
Speaker 14: count absolutely, and both political parties that the two major
Speaker 14: political parties tend to forget this, the people setting interest rates,
Speaker 14: the people in Canberra tend.
Speaker 1: To forget these things.
Speaker 14: The challenges that mainstream Australians have now which are absolutely
Speaker 14: real around the cost of living crisis and their inability
Speaker 14: and capacity to pay their mortgage rates.
Speaker 1: These challenges go back years.
Speaker 14: Remember we had the RBA governor telling this, don't worry,
Speaker 14: interest rates are going to be lower for longer.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case.
Speaker 14: People listened to the experts and now sadly they're suffering
Speaker 14: the consequences and things have to change.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, ed. I know this is sort of the
Speaker 1: shallow end of the pond in terms of the research fields,
Speaker 1: but still two very different worldviews. I think one is
Speaker 1: rather contemptuous of the other. But what do you think.
Speaker 7: Well, look, I don't know if we need to be
Speaker 7: expanding the RBA's mandate into managing Australian's mental health in
Speaker 7: addition to all of its current objectives. There's been a
Speaker 7: really substantive reform process of the RBA over the last
Speaker 7: few years. I think that should be welcomed. The fact
Speaker 7: that we're now not having to go through this every
Speaker 7: single month is reassuring. It sort of eight or so
Speaker 7: times a year. But this does speak to the under
Speaker 7: lying anxiety that is going to be around for a
Speaker 7: long time in the wake of this cost of living crisis. Now,
Speaker 7: these crises don't just end on a dime as soon
Speaker 7: as the inflation rate gets low. We've seen in past
Speaker 7: recessions and other economic challenging periods. You know there is
Speaker 7: a long tail. People really feel that in people that
Speaker 7: those consequence consequences are going to be there, So you know,
Speaker 7: the government needs to be really attuned to that. But
Speaker 7: I think so too do some of these policy makes
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 1: I'm with you all right to quick break back with more. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Ed, but I know that
Speaker 1: John loves his puppy, all right, and he's scratching at
Speaker 1: the door like a puppy wanting to go outside because
Speaker 1: he wants to talk about and rightly so, the Act
Speaker 1: Government telling you how much time you have to spend
Speaker 1: with your pets. More than a sec here on pull
Speaker 1: Marrid line. Thanks for watching, Thank you so much for watching.
Speaker 1: We are here in conversation this evening with from the
Speaker 1: Institute of Public Affairs, none of the wonderful John Roscombe,
Speaker 1: and here with Ed Cavanah as well, who is with
Speaker 1: the mckel Institute. Left right. But there's lots of things
Speaker 1: to talk about now, John, we've got a photo of
Speaker 1: your puppy here. I think you send a lovely photo
Speaker 1: of your puppy, all right, So any excuse to get
Speaker 1: a puppy on the TV? Oh not? Helu lu lu
Speaker 1: all right? What's their name? And how do you feel
Speaker 1: about the Act Government putting out a rule saying you
Speaker 1: must interact with you animal for a minimum of three
Speaker 1: hours a day.
Speaker 14: Well, Paul, that's Delphi, our wonderful boodle lying on her bed,
Speaker 14: which is the territory that she owns and possesses.
Speaker 1: I'm a dog person.
Speaker 14: I've grown up with dogs all my life, most of
Speaker 14: them have been rescue dogs. And look a measure of
Speaker 14: a civilized society, or one of the measures is how
Speaker 14: we treat our animals? How do we treat our companions?
Speaker 14: And the Act Government only in Canberra is now consulting on.
Speaker 1: Potential new laws that affect pet.
Speaker 14: Owners around how they care for their pets and particularly
Speaker 14: their dogs. And many of the suggestions are sensible around shade,
Speaker 14: around provision of clean water and so on.
Speaker 1: But one of the ideas is.
Speaker 14: That it should be a law that you have to
Speaker 14: play with your dog for three hours. You have to
Speaker 14: give it care and attention for three hours a day. Now,
Speaker 14: how this is going to be enforced, No one knows.
Speaker 1: How.
Speaker 14: Whether this is going to be the single most important
Speaker 14: thing the Act Government does in twenty twenty five is
Speaker 14: a mystery to most people. But it just reveals misplaced priorities.
Speaker 14: It reveals that we can't rely on people to look
Speaker 14: after themselves and look after their pets, and it just
Speaker 14: reveals so much that's wrong about camera, notwithstanding how much
Speaker 14: we do love our pets.
Speaker 1: Correct now, I've just received it. This is actually really
Speaker 1: not I've got received a message to here from the
Speaker 1: Act government. Wink, I haven't. But it is that watching
Speaker 1: Paul Murray live will officially count as one of the
Speaker 1: three hours. Okay, So if you can take a photo
Speaker 1: right now, if you're dog watching this show with you,
Speaker 1: and send it to me at Portsgunews dot com dot
Speaker 1: au and we'll show them on the show tomorrow, then
Speaker 1: we know at least one of those hours is being
Speaker 1: well spent together. Ed you foreshadowed a very interesting issue
Speaker 1: when we last spoke, which was about smelters the need
Speaker 1: for greater financial support, and well, I'm not suggesting you
Speaker 1: had any sort of insight running whatsoever. Just a couple
Speaker 1: of days later, the federal government comes out and says
Speaker 1: that it's a time to start getting behind them and
Speaker 1: helping them out, specifically the one that you mentioned.
Speaker 7: Well, that's it. Look there's a long road ahead here.
Speaker 7: I think we did see comments from the Prime Minister
Speaker 7: suggesting that the government would be open to some sort
Speaker 7: of federal intervention into the Near Star smelter, which is
Speaker 7: operational both in well, there's one in South Australia, one
Speaker 7: in Tasmania as well. The problem is, as I flagged
Speaker 7: last week, you know, this is sort of industry wide.
Speaker 7: We've got these challenges across the entire economy and I
Speaker 7: welcome I'm very much in support in principle of government
Speaker 7: support in this space, but we also have to be
Speaker 7: really careful here because there is a bit of a
Speaker 7: risk that you know, you said, a precedent where some
Speaker 7: of the more bad faith actors and investors potentially in
Speaker 7: this space, you know, kind of intentionally purchase an asset
Speaker 7: and then in the long run hope that government does
Speaker 7: come to the table and support them when it's you know,
Speaker 7: doing poorly. So whatever package does get announced in the
Speaker 7: coming weeks or months, whenever that may be, it needs
Speaker 7: to be very carefully calibrated to not set that precedent,
Speaker 7: but to also practically support this smelter in this industry,
Speaker 7: which is critical to our sovereign capability as a country,
Speaker 7: being able to build things, being able to make things,
Speaker 7: which is increasingly important given how volatile our regional economy is.
Speaker 1: All right, lads, I've got about sixty seconds, but I
Speaker 1: want to see here because no one ever takes a
Speaker 1: grab from a talk show and run it out of
Speaker 1: context when you're running for parliament later in your life.
Speaker 1: So think of that. But the Epstein thing right now,
Speaker 1: I've got to say, you know, I'm not a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory person, but certainly there's a lot to read about
Speaker 1: on this particular issue. Right now, I'm going to open
Speaker 1: the door to both of you. What's the one thing
Speaker 1: that you know may not be true, but for some
Speaker 1: reason you keep reading articles about it?
Speaker 7: Ed, Well, you put me on the spot.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 7: I mean, I look on the app side thing itself.
Speaker 7: I mean, my god, who knows what's going on there?
Speaker 7: That's not something I sort of spend.
Speaker 1: A lot of Fortunately, I like that you're keeping the
Speaker 1: notebook clean because he's running for something somewhere. This is
Speaker 1: the test if you're running for part what's the one
Speaker 1: that just ever so slightly you know it's probably not true,
Speaker 1: but every now and then you read too much about it.
Speaker 14: Paul, I can send you the list of a dozen
Speaker 14: different podcasts I've tuned into on the jfk assassination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a great believer in the magic bullet theory,
Speaker 1: but that's just me. We'll see whether you'll get canceled
Speaker 1: for saying such things. Let's do appreciate it. Thank you
Speaker 1: all right, quick break back. We more plenty more to
Speaker 1: talk about here on Paul Murray Live and then the
Speaker 1: late Debate in about eight minutes from now back in
Speaker 1: South Australia for our town in a couple of weeks time.
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Speaker 1: That's Gonews dot com dot au. Now you know Quantus,
Speaker 1: of course, and the Quantus data hack, which has been
Speaker 1: a new story of the past couple of days. Well,
Speaker 1: the boss of Quanus is now back from dealing with
Speaker 1: this in part overseas, where, among other things, she says,
Speaker 1: the data we were deleting was more personal identity data
Speaker 1: that has been historically held in our systems, such as
Speaker 1: passport details and other relevant identity data. That has been
Speaker 1: an action that we took as a result of the
Speaker 1: Optus and Medibank cyber haacks. Cool, But about the stuff
Speaker 1: that somebody did steal Now again, I do hear a
Speaker 1: lot of people Tenner ound say they must be more
Speaker 1: careful with their data. Yet they are somebody broke into
Speaker 1: the vault and somebody stole it. Okay, they didn't accidentally
Speaker 1: email it out across the world. But it does seem
Speaker 1: there might be anh dare I say gossipy angle to
Speaker 1: all of this. Apparently because it was all in connection
Speaker 1: with frequent flyer, the person who has stolen this stuff,
Speaker 1: and it is a crime, may well be able to
Speaker 1: know whom is in and out of the chairman's lounge.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the guess. Most of the people you
Speaker 1: think probably in it right, and I love that you're not.
Speaker 1: Now speaking of flying, if you've ever had the chance
Speaker 1: to fly through America, you know that it can be
Speaker 1: a compared to what it's like to get around in
Speaker 1: Australian airport. Lthough they can be frustrating at times. You
Speaker 1: know when you go through security and previously they've told
Speaker 1: you have to take your shoes off and you get
Speaker 1: what the shoe bomber? What was that?
Speaker 14: That was?
Speaker 1: How long ago? Ten years ago? Guess what announced by
Speaker 1: the Trump administration the very reason why Orange Man good.
Speaker 1: If you fly anywhere in the United States from now,
Speaker 1: you can cape your freaking shoes on.
Speaker 8: TSA first implemented the no shoes policy in two thousand
Speaker 8: and six, almost twenty years ago. And in those twenty
Speaker 8: years since that policy was put in place, our security
Speaker 8: technology has changed dramatically. It's evolved. TSA has changed. We
Speaker 8: have a multi layered hole of government approach now to
Speaker 8: security and to the environment that people anticipate and experience
Speaker 8: when come into an airport that has been honed and
Speaker 8: it's been hardened.
Speaker 1: Now. The other idea here is I think if we
Speaker 1: want to just a little free advice again just to
Speaker 1: hurry people along. And I don't know whether it is
Speaker 1: going to be the difference between horrible things and okay things.
Speaker 1: Do we have to take off our belts anymore? Look
Speaker 1: as a slightly retund fellow who without a belt to
Speaker 1: get messy, right, But when you're standing there and you're
Speaker 1: holding up your duds while you're trying to push all
Speaker 1: the other stuff through, and you're going, sorry, who's done
Speaker 1: what with a belt in the air because they still
Speaker 1: get to take it with me when I go on
Speaker 1: the plane, right, it's not like it's a lighter or
Speaker 1: it's a pocket knife or something like that. But still,
Speaker 1: for those of us that are of the heavier set,
Speaker 1: just let us have it. Just I'll do the wand
Speaker 1: on the other side, right, I'll do this. I'll move
Speaker 1: over the side. You can do the wand okay, you
Speaker 1: can even pat me down if you've a masochist. By
Speaker 1: the way, the person that you just saw there as
Speaker 1: the secretary who is in charge of Homeland Security. Christi
Speaker 1: nam to be a governor, and she was on her
Speaker 1: way to being a Trump's vice presidential pick until she
Speaker 1: wrote a book about her life where she admitted to
Speaker 1: shooting an animal in the face. This was not an
Speaker 1: expose a she wrote it in her own book. But
Speaker 1: still she looks good on TV, so Trump of course hireder.
Speaker 1: See you tomorrow.