WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 9 July 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.880 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Burray Live Today. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:08.560 Nice to talk to you. There's an lawful lot to 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.399 get to this evening, including to the sillier end of things. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.040 Can you believe that there is a real government in Australia, 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.599 not a local council, a real government in Australia that 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.360 is going to introduce a rule about how much time 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.520 you should spend with your peers. Seriously, this is a thing. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.880 We'll talk about it tonight. Massive news for those of 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.400 us who love Formula One. The boss of the Red 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.960 Bull racing team, Christian Horner, has been sacked tonight. In fact, 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.279 it's only happened in the past ninety minutes or so. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.159 Talk about a massive thing. This is the equivalent of 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.599 a multiple time Premiership per footy coach getting the biscuit 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.800 halfway through the season. I'll explain a little more in 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:44.879 a moment or two time, and a reminder, we're coming 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.000 to South Australia in just a couple of sundays. Time 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.879 for our town in Mount Gambia. Mount Gambia is a 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.080 beautiful part of Australia and I want as many people 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.320 to join us there as possible. You send us an 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.440 email ourtown at skynews dot com dot au now being 0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:59.960 a night for the hard corese and thank you for 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.520 being here this evening. I will get to some serious 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.560 stuff in a second, but there was just a lot 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.959 of other weird stuff that happened today that I thought 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:12.040 I might begin our conversation with tonight, including if today 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.199 felt just a little bit different than every other day, 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.160 if you felt like you had not enough time to 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.280 get around and do whatever it is that you did today, Well, 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:26.640 guess what you are not incorrect, because a very strange 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:33.160 scientific reason means that today, July the ninth, is the 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.800 shortest day in the history of the world. Apparently it 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:43.399 is one nano second shorter than the average day because 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.800 of the rotation of the Earth and apparently the fact 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.520 that the planet is getting ever so slightly smaller. Again 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:54.160 the explanation that comes here via an American news website 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.720 I think this one. Yeah. Earth is expected to complete 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.360 a full rotation on the ninth of July at roughly 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:05.640 one point three milliseconds less than the standard eighty six 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.560 four hundred seconds that define as twenty four hour day. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.920 With that time difference imperceptible to humans, it does represent 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.639 a broader pattern that has left scientists scratching their heads 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.560 for years. After thousands of years of the Earth slowing down, 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.280 Earth has been spinning faster in recent years, constantly breaking 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:30.120 records for its shortest days. Now again, if you felt 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.360 like today just was a millisecond faster, everything was a 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.680 little bit, yes, because of the Earth's rotation and it 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.960 getting smaller. I told you it was a weird day 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.040 to day. As I mentioned, Can you believe there is 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:48.600 a government anywhere in Australia that would tell you how 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.200 much time you have to spend playing with your puppy? Well, 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.280 that is apparently exactly what the Act Parliament is seriously considering. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:01.600 Dog owners must spend three hours minimum with their pets 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.919 under a new proposed animal welfare law. Now I have 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.800 no Again, this is one of those things where and 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.519 all of us care about animal welfare, and all of 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.680 us want to make sure that the pets and puppies 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.440 and budgies and fish and all the rest of it 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.959 in our lives live great lives. Okay, no question about that. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.000 But how are you supposed to prove it? Are you 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.200 supposed to somehow sort of like the old punch in 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:29.960 punch out clock? Are you supposed to put a stepper on? Rover? 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.880 Is a council ranger going to follow you around? This 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.760 is one of those things where it will be a recommendation, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.240 but if it's going to be potentially enforceable, how will 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.640 it ever be enforced? The Act government and I know 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.040 there are a lot of good people who watch us 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.000 in the Act, but the joke still stands. In terms 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.040 of its government, it is much more like a local 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.080 council than it is a state parliament. Obviously the Northern 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.680 Territory has fewer people but a much bigger area. But 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:01.080 certainly of the territories and states, it's it's small and 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.680 sometimes it's priorities, in my opinion, are also a little small. Okay, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.680 Now again, have a look at this under the draft 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.480 Code of Practice for the Welfare Dogs. Welfare of Dogs 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.880 in the Act features a number of mandatory standards, including 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.600 restricting surgical barking, debarking good, that's weird, and making a 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.440 compulsory for owners to provide animals with human contact for 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:29.119 a reasonable length of time three hours minimum. Now again, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.000 the code include glidelines blah blah blah, and apparently you 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.400 have some issues around retractable leads. Again, just just think 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.760 this through for a second. Okay, Now, if you've got 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.520 like a really active dog, you might be able to 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.960 get three hours of cuddle time or walking in. Okay, fine, 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.720 fair enough. What do you do with a rabbit? What 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.400 do you do with a snake? And who's going to 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.640 police this? Believe it or not. A great free thinker, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.360 that is John Roscombe has a strong opinion about this 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.880 because he sent a story to me to talk about 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:04.600 when we have a chat a little bit later in 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.200 the show. A passionate pet owner himself. How would he 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.360 feel about a government or somebody following you around with 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.480 a clicker telling you whether it's okay or not to 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.120 spend more time with your pair fed InCom All right. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.240 Third silly story around today, and again there's lots of stuff, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.800 but come on, you deserve a smile every now and then. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.920 This one involves two of the world's biggest diplomats, well, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.239 one of the world's biggest diplomats and Penny Wong. Penny 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.480 Wong is, of course, our Foreign Affairs minister American version 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.280 is the Secretary of State, who is Marco Rubio, the 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.640 past couple of weeks they ended up having a meeting together. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.400 But as the way the world works, there obviously in contact, 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.160 plenty of little messages and all the rest of it, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.160 and whatever secret mobile phones that they use. Well, according 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.159 to the Washington Post today, somebody who has been has 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:56.280 been an impostor pretending to be Marco Rubio and has 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.479 apparently been trying to call people in the American government 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:05.080 or foreign ministers around the world and pretend to be 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.400 Marco Rubio. This was the detail from NBC when it 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.040 was Primetime News, because of course somehow it links to 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.240 Orange Man Bad, but of course it has nothing to 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.080 do with them. It's an impostor who somehow has got 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.560 the numbers of the people that would be in his 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.120 fine and have been reaching out. Was Penny Wong one 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.039 of them. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.920 The actor used AI to contact at least five high 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:33.599 level government officials in mid June, including three foreign ministers, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.919 a governor, and a member of Congress. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:37.279 Please go on. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.160 The individual using the display name Marco Rubio at State 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.000 dot gov also left voicemails on the messaging app signal 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.000 for at least two targeted persons. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.440 So is pennywe one of these people? Now they had 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.320 a very recent meeting. They clearly were preparing for the meeting. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.719 But what I find really interesting about this is the 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.040 by choosing to say nothing, what is going on here? 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.120 In the Australian newspaper their version of the story today, 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.400 the Foreign Minister Penny Wong has a climb to comment 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.920 on whether she was one of three foreign ministers contacted 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.960 by artificial intelligence with somebody impersonating the US Secretary of 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:22.080 State Marco Rubia. When asked whether Senator Wong had been 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:27.560 contacted by the impostor over the encrypted message signal, which 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:33.920 is basically another version of a WhatsApp, Right, a spokesman, please, spokesperson, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.760 we're in twenty twenty five, declined to comment, citing the 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:42.160 ongoing investigations in the United States. Now I get it. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.120 These people are all very sort of super careful and 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.240 they don't want to say But if it wasn't you, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.120 you just say no, of course not. But thanks for it, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.000 thanks for the inquiry, but no, I'm not one of them. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:56.840 Move on, and it's a crazy story, right, Okay, this 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.800 is the national security stuff. But encrypted apps people end 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.120 up people's numbers. This is not a giant surprise, right, Thankfully, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.320 it's not somebody turning around knocking on a hotel door 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.120 in the middle of the night or going to their 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.239 house or something more physically dangerous. But with the greatest 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.160 respect to Marco Rubio, it did get me thinking, let's 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:19.080 just imagine that Pennywong was one of the ministers who 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:24.320 was contacted. Her public presentation is fairly robotic, a little 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.760 bit ai, dare I say, and Marco Rubio again, at times, 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.560 can be a little ai. So we decided to use 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.680 AI to try to show the speech bubbles of what 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:39.000 their conversation would look like. The problem is, would either 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.280 of them have known that it wasn't a real person 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.800 on the other end of the line, Oh dare you 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:51.720 say that Pennywong's a national treasure? Now increasingly not a 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.280 day goes by without someone in the left turning around 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.880 and basically saying, Hey, you know, China, let's do more 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.520 of what they do a trillion times. For all the 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.800 obvious reasons about why that is a terrible idea, I 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.680 don't want to be more like China. I'd be more 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.080 like America, the UK, the New Zealand Free Countries, right, 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.760 not China. Well, today, the boss of the Energy Council 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.880 was giving a speech of the National Press Club. I 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.760 know were you watching two And normally I would not 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.880 care at all about presenting what the Energy Council boss 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.600 was saying at the National Press Club, because he was 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.560 saying all the obvious. Well, this in part is what 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:35.440 he said today China plays as a team, essentially kind 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.480 of saying it's good the way they are dealing with 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.360 climate change issues, even though we know they're the world's 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.440 biggest polluta. This is in part what this bloke said. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.640 He is the boss of the Smart Energy Council. Okay, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.320 so he's better than you and I, and he knows 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.280 more about the future than you and I. And unbelievably 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.960 he said this, and there was not a gasp in 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.360 the room when he said it. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.720 One thing you can say about the Chinese system is 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.640 that China plays as a team. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.600 They don't play as a team the Chinese government, not 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.040 the Chinese people, nor the citizens here in Australia. No, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.440 you're not going to get me on that one. It 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.679 is a ruthless machine that, as you saw back in 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:26.280 nineteen eighty nine, will put tanks in front of protesters, 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:32.280 let alone people in jail for invented crimes. The idea 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.760 that you would be able to launch a protest about 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:40.559 any planned mass development in your part of China. Good luck, 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.079 you will be depersoned within a moment. And deperson does 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.080 not mean not allowed to use Twitter. Okay, I don't 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.760 care if it's a joke. I don't care if it's flipping. 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:57.000 How can you say this? Unbelievably, There was plenty more 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.040 that he had to say about China. In fact, it 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.920 was kind of on his today. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.600 And Australia spends all of our time trying to tear 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.160 each other apart. That is no way to compete for 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.280 Team Australia. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:18.680 Okay. In a free country, you are allowed to disagree 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.640 with your government. You are allowed to disagree with your 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.440 fellow citizens. You are allowed to do so out of principle, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:32.800 out of opinion, out of because it's Tuesday. Okay, that's 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.840 our country. You are allowed to say, I don't like 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:40.319 what is happening in this country. We tear ourselves apart, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.760 not because and they all want to pretend that this 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.640 is you know, we're still twenty years ago and there's 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.520 a conversation about whether climate change is or isn't a 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:56.120 thing right, Australia needs to do our bit. Why because 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.439 all the evidence is there about what's happening to the world. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:04.400 But austraight as one percent of the global problem. Yes, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.679 a certain section of the country. Last election would tell 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.520 us about a third of the country doesn't agree with 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.880 what the government's plan is, which is to move from 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.800 an energy system that has worked for decades, that was 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.679 cheap for decades, to a new one that, fingers crossed 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.120 after it's built, after it's paid off, will theoretically be cheaper. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.520 But there are plenty of people who quite reasonably have 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.000 come to the conclusion that the amount of cost and 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.280 effort of the new system doesn't do as good a 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.120 job as the old system, and that yes, while one 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.880 is going to be more polluting than the other, the 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.840 new one requires how much bush to be cut down, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.559 how many new wires to go up, how many new 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.720 farms to essentially just be trampled China style? 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.720 This bloke said China over and over and over and 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.839 over again in his speech today, and again, I don't know, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.960 I've never heard of this bloke before, Okay, and I 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.160 know because I'm nipping at his heels. It will be 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.480 roll gold now on the ABC. Okay, the official sort 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.360 of you know, tick of approval. You've annoyed the people 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.600 in Sky in his primetime. But these are the people 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.880 that are not just lobbying our governments. But I've been 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.679 given front and center at the National Press Club. That's 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.800 the same place the Prime Minister has given speeches, the 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:29.679 same place eminent Australians have given speeches. Yet again, no. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.040 Gasp, no reaction. I guarantee this will be the most 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.880 chat about it that you're probably going to hear. But 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.200 if you get a chape chance, go back and watch 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.880 the tapes, read the transcripts. Of course I don't need 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.440 to point out, but I will when it comes to 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.559 China and specifically renewable energy, when it comes to renewable 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.120 energy products that I'm made out of China, I have 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.160 this bloke and everyone else who thinks, why can't we 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:58.760 be a little more CCP remembers the Wigas. The Wigas 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.760 is a religious minority in China, a minion of which 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.240 have been imprisoned and among other things that they are 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.840 doing when the females are not being assaulted in horrific ways, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.079 that far right wing institution, the BBC, remember tells us 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.240 that the weaker population is being used as force labor, 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.880 slave labor to make solar panels, the same ones we 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.960 import into this country. This is such a problem that 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.080 even Joe Biden, who didn't even know what day it 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.440 was or what city he was in when he was president, 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:40.080 banned the importation of slave labor solar panels. Australia has 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:46.720 not made that decision. And when it comes to China 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.960 and China being able to solve the global problem, remember, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.440 as I've told you before about the climate clock. Right, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.800 let's go like play school. You can get from here 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:00.880 to about quarter past and that's China. This is the 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.000 rest of the developing world or the global South. This 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.600 is India, this is the United States, this is Russia. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.720 Forty five of the sixty minutes of countries, if it 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.840 was a clock, are either completely out or don't care 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:21.320 about net zero twenty thirty. China pollutes what Australia does 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:26.520 in one year in sixteen days. We should be more 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.960 like China. They all pull together. This is truly outrageous, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.440 but what a little insight into how they truly think 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.240 and what they truly think of people who stand in 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.160 their way and They're not saying that because climate change 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.560 is an existential crisis and anyone who is slowing us 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:50.160 up by a day is committing our kids to horrible futures. No, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.280 it's because there's plenty of money. And then the valleys 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.720 and then they are hills. And again about China, they 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.600 are currently at a ten year high the amount of 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:05.360 coal power plants they are currently producing. Had a look 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.880 on one of those lefty websites that is all very 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.760 pro massive things to do with the renewable energy. Have 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.240 a look at the graph. There's the past ten years. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.880 The red is just how much new coal construction, new 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.640 not ongoing, new coal power plants last year a ten 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.320 year high. Oh, but we should be more like China. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.680 Actually go back, Can we play it again? Play again 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.640 the very first bit of this guy from this council 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:35.240 and his view. Remember remember when Tony Abott we're talking 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.840 about Team Australia, just backing in the awesomeness of Australia 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.920 and doing your best for Australia. Oh, pillar read and 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.880 how many things were written in all of those opinion 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.440 pieces everywhere. Well, how many will be written about the 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.920 bloke who said this in our national capital today. 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.960 One thing you can say about the Chinese system is 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.680 that China plays as a team. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.680 You know. I want to say more, but we'll get 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.720 to it in a moment of two stime. Now, as 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.680 you know, climate change is the obsession of certain parts 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.920 of the left. The reality for the extreme majority of 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.280 Australians has been how much everything costs. It always has been. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.960 Ever Thus you've ever had a bill, We've always had 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:16.560 that part of our lives. We're going, geez, what's all 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.720 this about. Well, the reality is that cost of living 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.919 was a major issue. Two thirds of Australians, either by 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.520 first or second vote, decided to vote for the government 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.359 to stick around. But of course all of the indices 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.000 that come out tell us that, apparently cost of living 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.520 crisis is totally over. I mean, just listen to the 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.120 Prime Minister in the snake charm. 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.120 Costs of living, cost of living, cost of living, cost 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.040 of living, costive living, cost of living, costive living, cost 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.720 of living, costive living, cost of living, cost of living, 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.080 cost of living, cost of living, cost of living. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.480 Ah, but they think we've turned the corner, you see, 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.879 So it doesn't matter anymore. And as I told you, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.199 a couple of nights ago, almost half half of all 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.080 of the economists that the Price can Harrison website finder 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.159 got in touch with said the cost of living crisis 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.600 is over. Well, isn't that excellent news? You might want 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.840 to tell that too the people who responded to another 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.280 consumer website survey, because cost of living is triggering mental 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.199 health issues for millions of Australians. Now, I know, I 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.200 talked about it for months, talked about it for years. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.560 Oh there he goes again, whenever he talks about money. 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:26.760 It's boring. Well, I just think when you get information 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.959 about average Australians, regardless of whether they vote left, right 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:36.320 or center, whether they are of all genders, all political persuasions, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:41.800 all football teams, no football teams, that it's a relevant story. Again, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.280 we have a look here. Almost half of Australians admit 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.000 cost and living pressures are impacting their mental health as 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:52.639 millions millions were denied further relief. But it came to 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.320 the interest rates this week fresh research from Now I 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.680 know it's kind of Pon's institutey, but you get the point. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.440 Compare the Market found forty eight point seven percent of 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:06.080 Australians now experience or have heightened feelings of anxiety depression 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.600 due to money issues. So you can stick a where 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.280 the sun doesn't shine. That, oh, half the economists say, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.920 because this inde season, that inter season, the one point 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:16.800 two and the four point five and the minus the two, 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:24.240 and everything's okay here in the Chamnel's lounge. Seriously, remember 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.600 inflation may well be two percent, not six percent, not full, 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.359 and that's great. But when you put together this month's 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.560 increased to that month's increase, to this year to the 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.480 year before, it's like this. You know what you're living 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.080 at and the prices will never come down. Why because 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.480 for all the obvious reasons, if anyone can make a buck, 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.359 they'll keep making a buck. Can we go back to 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:47.080 the statement heure gen Z was fearing the worse when 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.520 it came to the price pressures, as seventy two percent 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.280 of respondents in the Comparison Sides survey reported mental health 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:57.240 strainers money was over moneyise. Millennials followed with fifty six 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.679 percent saying they felt mental health challenges over the cost pressures. Well, 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.480 forty eight percent of Gen X and twenty nine percent 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.760 of Baby Boomers feel the same. Honor but it's all okay, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.640 We've turned the corner. It's over. I get it. Look 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.680 at the scoreboard. They won ninety four seats to four 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.800 fifth of bugger all of the opposition. But this is 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.439 not about the election. This is about our country, and 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.200 this is about our media who just want to move 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.600 on in many ways from these things. And I get it. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:26.399 It's not a university study, it's not a plebiscite or 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.560 a referendum. But still, how how far away could you 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.400 possibly be? Half of all of economists They turn around 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.400 and say, we've turned the corner, the crisis is over. 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.000 Whereas the numbers, as I just told you, generation by generation, 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:45.680 seventy two percent of Gen Z is feeling anxious about money, 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.280 fifty six percent of millennials, forty eight percent of Gen X, 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.800 and twenty nine percent of Baby boomers. I would call 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:56.600 that more than half of the country. Let's talk about 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.679 the piece of work that was Jeffrey Epstein. What are 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.560 still this has been? What a wild ride? Now you 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.520 don't need me to tell you, but this bloke was 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:09.439 a piece of This is a bloke who wasn't kinky, 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.639 He was a creep. Now it has been officially ruled 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.040 that he killed himself in a New York jail. The 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.480 guards just fell asleep at exactly the right time and 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.200 the camera cut out yet. But that's where the official 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.600 story is, okay, And forgive me for wondering out loud 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.320 whether you believe that or not, but that is the 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:35.640 official line, just like the magic bullet and JFK Right. Well, 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.400 the issue that many people have been discussing since he 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.920 was arrested was, Okay, the way this bloke used to 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:43.240 live his life was he used to hang out with 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.320 really rich, really famous, really important, really powerful people, And 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.040 there were many ways that you could hang out with him. 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.160 You could come over to his house, you could fly 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.560 on his plane, the Lolita Express, or you could of course, 0:21:54.560 --> 0:22:00.400 go and spend a couple of nights at Jeffrey Epstein's island. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.560 In all of those locations, there had been allegations about 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:14.639 underage girls being procured for sex or sexual interactions in 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.760 all three of those locations. So when the kingpin falls, 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.600 a lot of people were wondering, okay, so when's the 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.600 list going to come out about all of the people 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:25.800 who may well have been to those three things and 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.600 may or may not have done what he did at 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.639 one of those three locations. Of course, it was the 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:32.720 Epstein list. 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:39.119 They include associates, friends, and alleged victims of the disgraced 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.920 billionaire who died in jail five years ago. 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.400 The pages revealing around one hundred and fifty people mentioned 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:49.720 in previously redacted parts of the Gillen Maxwell suit. 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.879 More than two hundred previously redacted names linked to Jeffrey 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:54.760 Epstein have been made public tonight. 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:59.040 A federal judge ordered the unredacted documents to be released 0:22:59.119 --> 0:22:59.760 last month. 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:07.359 So there is a list, well, apparently not, because the FBI, 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.000 the Department of Justice, and Trump's administration have now turned 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.720 around and said there is no list now. Of course, 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.240 one of the reasons why some people we're looking forward 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.719 to a Trump administration was this list that we'd heard 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.160 about how many times from different places that would come 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.640 out now for anyone who says, well, obviously, the reason 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:25.359 it didn't come out a because Donald Trump's on the list. 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.119 You don't think that Joe Biden and his staff, if 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.760 Trump was anywhere near the list, would not have been 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:35.320 linked or leaked all the rest of it. But the 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.560 official decision today is there is no list. 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:43.760 A new Justice Department memo reveals that the Justice Department 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:48.400 has no evidence that convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.240 powerful people or kept a client list. 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.880 Investigators say they found no incriminating client list of Epstein's, 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.919 no credible evidence that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals, and no 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.720 evidence that could predicate keep an investigation against uncharged third parties. 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.160 Accius atteam obtained a memo from the DJ that concludes 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.439 Epstein did not have a client list and that he 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.040 died by suicide. 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.480 Nothing to see. You remember that movie Men in Black 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.720 where they hold up the thing and they go, whoo oh, 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.400 I don't even I don't remember anything. That's the trick 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.840 they're trying to pull now. Either there never was, which 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.920 means everyone's been lying for all of this time, but 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.240 nobody has come out to ever correct the lie and 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:33.880 just let it run and run and run and run 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:35.640 and run. But of course, if there was no list, 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.320 if there was no information, all of those media outlets 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.159 that I showed you before that would have been loyal 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.440 to the Biden worldview, well, they would have repeated there's 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.840 nothing to see here, but the lady who became the 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.560 Attorney General in the United States. Thus the person who 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:54.560 became in charge of the Department of Justice with responsibility 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:58.760 for people like the FBI. Well, she has kind of 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:03.160 been saying pretty clearly that there was a list. Here 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.360 she is, I think about four months ago. 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:10.440 The DOJ maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:11.760 Well, that really happened. 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.720 It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.840 been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:23.200 reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.240 of being reviewed because that was done at the directive 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.240 of the president from all of these agencies. 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:31.120 So have you seen anything that you said, Oh, my gosh, 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.400 not yet. But that wasn't the only time she talked 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.600 about it. In fact, a few days later they actually 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.199 got a whole bunch of influencers who had interest in 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.200 this from the incident, gave them a whole bunch of binders. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:44.440 There was nothing new in any of it, but there 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.320 was this big song and dance and she said this 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.720 on television. Remember, as the person in charge of the 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.640 very body that could tell us whether there was or 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.320 wasn't a list. Second example of her saying there is well, 0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:58.840 and truly a list. 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:04.720 You're going to see hopefully tomorrow as a lot of 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.760 flight logs, a lot of names, a lot a lot 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:12.440 of information. But it's it's pretty sick what that man did. 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:19.080 Reque that grab, let's play that again. Lots of names, 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:25.160 lots of details. Okay again, no wigs or words here, expectations. 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.760 You are right up to hear that there's documents you've 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:29.960 never seen because the list has been hidden for all 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.440 the obvious and spooky reasons. What did she say again? 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:39.720 What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow is a lot 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.679 of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot a 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:46.520 lot of information, but it's it's pretty sick what that 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:47.160 man did. 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.080 So over the weekend they decided to go to sort 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:55.280 of an inside baseball Washington news thing called Axios, and 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.440 they said, no, there's nothing more to see here. Nothing, 0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.840 nothing happened. So the past couple of days have been 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.760 watching people go, sorry, what you said? All of that? 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.480 You said all of that. I didn't say that. You 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.760 said all of that, right, you're the one who didn't 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.920 just set expectations, but kinda was pulling the horse to water, 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:14.640 and the horse was thirsty to know what was happening. Well, 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.920 today there was a cabinet meeting in Washington, d C. 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.439 Of course, sheared by President Donald Trump, who wanted to 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.440 well magically pretend no one wants to talk about this, 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.760 and you know, I like Trump, but come on, are 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.280 you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:35.600 about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.119 we have all of the things, and are people still 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:44.879 talking about this guy? This crip that is unbelievable. But 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.000 eventually the person who said everything that you've heard before, 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.240 the Attorney general or she had to speak because she 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.919 couldn't quite scarp her off. She's sitting right there. You 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.080 don't leave if the president hasn't left, and everyone's sitting 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:59.880 down and there's no escape. So what did she say? Today? 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.000 I was asked a question about the client list, and 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.960 my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:14.600 meaning the file along with the JFK MLK files as well. 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.720 That's what I meant by that. Also, to the tens 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.520 of thousands of video they turned out to be child 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:25.320 porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is 0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.679 what they were never going to be released, never going 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:28.720 to see the lighted day. 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.520 Okay, but you would have known that right like first 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.680 week in the job, first month, first you know, littleone, 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.520 the release of the pump up and all the rest 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:44.040 of it. One person left on the planet. May May 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.880 May one day tell us whether there is or isn't. 0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.560 It was his girlfriend, Glaine Maxwell, of course is in jail, 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.560 and rightly so, and she will be for the best 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.120 part of twenty years. Why because she went and fanned 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.800 the underage women who were then subsequently abused by Jeffrey Epstein. 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.840 But listen to some of the media reports at the time, 0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.440 does she know more? Well, you make up your own mind. 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.920 Prosecutor say that she recruited in g room four girls 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.800 between nineteen ninety four and two thousand and four for Epstein, 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.360 her a longtime associate and former boyfriend. 0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.400 Maxwell was convicted of helping to recruit young girls to 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.080 be abused by her longtime associate Jeffrey Epstein. 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.600 Back in December, Gilaine Maxwell has been sentenced to twenty 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.560 years in prison for helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse teenage girl. 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.960 The former socialite who counted Royalty as friends, has been 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.200 jailed for twenty years for conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to 0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.800 sexually abuse young girls. 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.880 I love motorsports. Supercars is my love, but second to 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.240 it is the world of Formula One and what a 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.400 massive story in that sport. And I know a lot 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.200 of people in Australia well and truly we stay up 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:51.840 in the middle of the night to watch everything from 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.880 practice all the way through to races. Saturday nights. Qualifying 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.040 around eleven o'clock is always amazing to watch. And the 0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.160 Red Bull Racing team has been a phenomen one for 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.560 the past twenty or so years. In fact, of the 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.320 more than four hundred races that they have competed in, 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:07.840 there one at least a quarter of them over the 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:12.080 entire twenty years of it being in place. This year, however, 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.400 the form has started to fall away. Just two years 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.080 ago they won all but one of the races that 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:22.920 entire season. Maxvstappen is of course the driver who has 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.800 won them many a world title and apparently we're so 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.800 unhappy with the way things were going that maybe, just 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.120 maybe he was going to go off to another team. 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.600 So we learned to diet that his boss, Christian Horner, 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.520 the very man who put the team together, built it, 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.720 took it to not one but multiple drivers titles, with 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:43.760 multiple drivers, multiple constructors championships is gone out. Is that 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.120 because Max has gone somewhere else or is it because 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.240 they need to get rid of him to keep Max. 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.000 Suffice to say, the news has been massive. The statement 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.840 from Red Bull tonight was breaking news all over the 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:56.640 F one world. 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:03.040 Red Balls chiefstive of Corporate Projects and Investments, Oliver minslaf 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.560 has had this to say about Horner. We would like 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.120 to thank Christian Horner for his exceptional work over the 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:13.720 last twenty years. With his tireless commitment, experience, expertise and 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:18.080 innovative thinking, he has been instrumental in establishing Red Bull 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.800 Racing as one of the most successful and attractive teams 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.440 in Formula one. Thank you for everything, Christian, and you 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:30.040 will forever remain an important part of our team history. 0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.880 Now. I know there's been scandals in the past, my 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.480 view is that I reckon that it is all about 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.160 keeping or after they have lost Max. So we'll find 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.760 that out in the next little while. Martin Brundle is 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.440 of course the legend of motorsport from the UK. He's 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.840 the guy who is in the commentary box each and 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:47.960 every one of those sessions that we stay up in 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.400 the middle of the night to watch. And he is 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.160 a very passionate motorsport not just fan, but also person 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:58.440 who's aware of the success and British based success of 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.200 Christian Horner. This is what he said to Fox Sports, 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.520 sorry Fox Sports, Sky Sports in the UK. I'm quite 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:07.720 sad about it. If I'm honest. 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.000 I consider Christian a friend and he send an incredible 0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.360 job there for twenty years, won an awful lot of 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:17.520 races and world championships for drivers and for the team, 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.880 and he took it from what was the Stewart team 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:26.880 through Jaguar and it was struggling to a massive campus 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.920 in Milton Keynes and an awful lot of success and 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:34.920 a huge trophy cabinet. But you know, it's not been 0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:39.000 difficult to feel in the Formula one paddock and to 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:44.800 observe and to hear that things were not particularly rosy. 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.600 Now they're all very well paid, but how brutal can 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.120 sport be? And it's one of the reasons I love motorspoort. 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.560 Either there is no gray area, you win or you lose. 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.200 Two years ago, they won all about one race. Two 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.440 years later, the bloke who built the team hired all 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.640 of the right people and won so many idols. Gone 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.240 more in a sect here on Pulmurray Life plenty more 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.480 to discuss, including Yeah, I want to hear what John 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.160 Roscombe has to say about this story about the act 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.680 now putting rules down about how much time you should 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:18.720 spend with your puppy. More in a second. Let's get 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.920 into a conversation now with two guys who are kind 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:22.800 of team Red, kind of team Blue, but more importantly 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.720 they're from great think tanks. But they're very free to 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.760 speak their mind and they will do so right now. 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.320 John Roscom is of course with the IPA, and Ed 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.760 Kavanah is with the McKell Institute, a carry out a 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.560 champ from last week, Welcome back, my friends. So this 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.760 bloke from the Smart Energy Council goes and plays a 0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.920 home game, which is giving a speech in camera to 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:43.520 a room that of course was going to say nothing 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.880 other than yes, absolutely wonderful, what a great idea of 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.480 the National Party. They're terrible what nation? Oh, but he 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.960 decided to get a little bit excited and dare I 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:54.800 say that sort of you know the inner lefty in 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.760 him who goes, you know what, would be great no opposition, 0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.480 So he decided to drop this as a reference to 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.120 China as being the way to go when it comes 0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.200 to getting what you want out of the government. 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.319 One thing you can say about the Chinese system is 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.040 that China plays as a team. 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:14.640 Ed. 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.080 What the heck did he mean? And would he slightly 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.520 regret it once he got back to the hotel because 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:20.680 this is ridiculous. 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.080 Well, he might be regretting it after this, after the 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:30.080 coverage tonight. Look, my view is that we shouldn't be 0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.320 looking to China for influence on our energy policy, whichever 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.560 way we're going on energy policy. You know, I don't 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.440 think we should be looking at them for inspiration on 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.520 a clean energy future, nor should we be looking at 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.520 them for inspiration on a fossil fuel led future. And 0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.359 the sort of irony in this is there's a lot 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.760 of outrage about this individual citing some of the climate 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:52.000 achievements of the Chinese government. But we always hear here 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.840 in Australia that we should be doing less on climate 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.640 because of what China's doing, because they're going down a 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.600 certain energy path around fossil fuels, so we should do 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:00.959 the same. 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:01.879 So ten your highs. 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.520 In my view, we should be going an Australian way 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.360 and we shouldn't necessarily be taking our cues from the 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.280 Chinese government on energy policy, whichever way they looks. 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.239 Yeah, my issue is, as always, right what I'm saying, 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:14.920 do you have to do something short one percent of 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.800 the world's problem, you know, and if you've got forty 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.200 five of the sixty minutes on that climate clock kind 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.840 of in many ways either making things worse or spinning 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.160 their wheels. That's my issue. It's not an argument against 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.000 a need for certain transitions. But John again to the 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.080 heart of it here, right, Oh, China, they all play 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.719 as a team. They all play as a team. Oh yeah, 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.080 you try and be a free thinker in China. You 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.280 try and say, I don't want that in my backyard. 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.400 No nimbis in China, No Nimbi's there. 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:46.160 Well, this is the problem, Paul, that too many people 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:50.560 from the world of business talk about the certainty and 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:55.640 the direction and the clarity that totalitarian regimes provide. Well, 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:59.480 there is a difference in Australia. We are a democracy. 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.319 You can speak your mind for the moment at least 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.600 we can debate climate change, we can debate energy policy. 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.200 And the tragedy of what was talked about in the 0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:15.400 Press club this week is that the Speaker John Grimes 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.680 played a significant role in the last federal election. His 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:26.520 in Joe's costing of the coalition's nuclear power policies were 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:30.000 cited by the government and he had a huge role, 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:34.160 huge influence in the debate. They've acknowledged they donate to 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.479 the Labor Party and here's some bloke telling us. 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.960 We should be like China. Yeah, it is honestly one 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.880 of those moments where you just go cool, COOLi horses, 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.160 that's too far right, You might think, look at the 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.799 scooreboard ninety something seats and there'll be no opposition for 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.960 any time, you know, the fact bloke yelling on the telly, 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.920 who cares all right? The people watching it off or 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.160 they just keep voting the way they do. Seriously, No, 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.799 that was a bad call today. Now, perfect example about 0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.440 what we refer to and everyone's referred to as well 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.040 as a bit of a sort of a gulf between 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:04.680 dare I say, the front end of the plane and 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.040 the people who can't even afford to fly on the plane, 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.520 but it the elites or anything else, right, would be 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.239 half of all economists telling consumer website, oh we've turned 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.759 the corner. Cost of crisis is over because this in 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:18.719 the season this month, and carry the one and carry 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.840 the two. Nothing to see here, and another consumer website 0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.000 that says that more than half of Australians have serious 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.919 mental health conditions because of the cost of living. Right, 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.160 let's talk not about whether we turn the corner or not. 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.799 Let's keep it at the distance between two worlds. John, Now, 0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.640 to me, it is that thing where and I have 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.879 always banged on about it, which is when you get 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.160 anything that tells you millions of Australians are then it 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:46.880 starts to move its way towards the top of my 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.239 attention list. Right, So, the three million Australians this close 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.640 to homelessness, three and a bit million Australian households that 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:53.880 are going to run out of food, I'm going to 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.880 talk about that. Right. Some people will want to swatt 0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:58.640 it away because it's not going to matter politically, or 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.840 it's not that interesting to watch on tell levision, But Bugret, 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:02.800 I'm going to talk about it. Right. What do you 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.840 think about this little golf here? Again, we're kind of 0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:08.160 talking about the Ponds Institute versus the Palmolav Institute. We're 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.239 not talking about the IPA and the mckel. So I'm 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.279 getting that it's not great intellectual riga here. But it 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.319 does seem that you've got two people with two very 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.440 different world views, John, which one do you think actually matters? 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.480 And it's going to disappoint people because it's going to 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.040 be people more like the front end of the plane 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:24.320 and that bloke talking about China. 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.120 Well, it's the view of mainstream Australians that has to 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:33.000 count absolutely, and both political parties that the two major 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:36.680 political parties tend to forget this, the people setting interest rates, 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.600 the people in Canberra tend. 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:39.800 To forget these things. 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.800 The challenges that mainstream Australians have now which are absolutely 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.280 real around the cost of living crisis and their inability 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.240 and capacity to pay their mortgage rates. 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.280 These challenges go back years. 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.440 Remember we had the RBA governor telling this, don't worry, 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.040 interest rates are going to be lower for longer. 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:00.520 That wasn't the case. 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:06.520 People listened to the experts and now sadly they're suffering 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.720 the consequences and things have to change. 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.280 Yeah again, ed. I know this is sort of the 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.680 shallow end of the pond in terms of the research fields, 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.880 but still two very different worldviews. I think one is 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.959 rather contemptuous of the other. But what do you think. 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.160 Well, look, I don't know if we need to be 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:28.400 expanding the RBA's mandate into managing Australian's mental health in 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.719 addition to all of its current objectives. There's been a 0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.759 really substantive reform process of the RBA over the last 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.120 few years. I think that should be welcomed. The fact 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.040 that we're now not having to go through this every 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.600 single month is reassuring. It sort of eight or so 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.799 times a year. But this does speak to the under 0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.279 lying anxiety that is going to be around for a 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.040 long time in the wake of this cost of living crisis. Now, 0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:54.319 these crises don't just end on a dime as soon 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.919 as the inflation rate gets low. We've seen in past 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.680 recessions and other economic challenging periods. You know there is 0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:02.680 a long tail. People really feel that in people that 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.920 those consequence consequences are going to be there, So you know, 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.799 the government needs to be really attuned to that. But 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.239 I think so too do some of these policy makes 0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:11.080 as well. 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.040 I'm with you all right to quick break back with more. Now. 0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:15.440 I don't know about you, Ed, but I know that 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.200 John loves his puppy, all right, and he's scratching at 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.120 the door like a puppy wanting to go outside because 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.360 he wants to talk about and rightly so, the Act 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.279 Government telling you how much time you have to spend 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.000 with your pets. More than a sec here on pull 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:33.560 Marrid line. Thanks for watching, Thank you so much for watching. 0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.640 We are here in conversation this evening with from the 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.440 Institute of Public Affairs, none of the wonderful John Roscombe, 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.960 and here with Ed Cavanah as well, who is with 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.239 the mckel Institute. Left right. But there's lots of things 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.480 to talk about now, John, we've got a photo of 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.360 your puppy here. I think you send a lovely photo 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:50.960 of your puppy, all right, So any excuse to get 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:52.839 a puppy on the TV? Oh not? Helu lu lu 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.640 all right? What's their name? And how do you feel 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.440 about the Act Government putting out a rule saying you 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.080 must interact with you animal for a minimum of three 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:02.759 hours a day. 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:09.160 Well, Paul, that's Delphi, our wonderful boodle lying on her bed, 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:13.839 which is the territory that she owns and possesses. 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:15.000 I'm a dog person. 0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.000 I've grown up with dogs all my life, most of 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.040 them have been rescue dogs. And look a measure of 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.759 a civilized society, or one of the measures is how 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.319 we treat our animals? How do we treat our companions? 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:32.280 And the Act Government only in Canberra is now consulting on. 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.800 Potential new laws that affect pet. 0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:39.839 Owners around how they care for their pets and particularly 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:44.720 their dogs. And many of the suggestions are sensible around shade, 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.279 around provision of clean water and so on. 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.640 But one of the ideas is. 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:53.000 That it should be a law that you have to 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.360 play with your dog for three hours. You have to 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.040 give it care and attention for three hours a day. Now, 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.440 how this is going to be enforced, No one knows. 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:01.880 How. 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.360 Whether this is going to be the single most important 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:08.319 thing the Act Government does in twenty twenty five is 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:13.279 a mystery to most people. But it just reveals misplaced priorities. 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.200 It reveals that we can't rely on people to look 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.480 after themselves and look after their pets, and it just 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:24.640 reveals so much that's wrong about camera, notwithstanding how much 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:25.600 we do love our pets. 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.759 Correct now, I've just received it. This is actually really 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.440 not I've got received a message to here from the 0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:33.240 Act government. Wink, I haven't. But it is that watching 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.920 Paul Murray live will officially count as one of the 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.120 three hours. Okay, So if you can take a photo 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.200 right now, if you're dog watching this show with you, 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.680 and send it to me at Portsgunews dot com dot 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.200 au and we'll show them on the show tomorrow, then 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.919 we know at least one of those hours is being 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:52.040 well spent together. Ed you foreshadowed a very interesting issue 0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:56.520 when we last spoke, which was about smelters the need 0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:00.120 for greater financial support, and well, I'm not suggesting you 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.520 had any sort of insight running whatsoever. Just a couple 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.919 of days later, the federal government comes out and says 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.000 that it's a time to start getting behind them and 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.400 helping them out, specifically the one that you mentioned. 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.719 Well, that's it. Look there's a long road ahead here. 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.320 I think we did see comments from the Prime Minister 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.719 suggesting that the government would be open to some sort 0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.080 of federal intervention into the Near Star smelter, which is 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.480 operational both in well, there's one in South Australia, one 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.040 in Tasmania as well. The problem is, as I flagged 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.279 last week, you know, this is sort of industry wide. 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:36.640 We've got these challenges across the entire economy and I 0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.160 welcome I'm very much in support in principle of government 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.120 support in this space, but we also have to be 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.279 really careful here because there is a bit of a 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.239 risk that you know, you said, a precedent where some 0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.920 of the more bad faith actors and investors potentially in 0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.160 this space, you know, kind of intentionally purchase an asset 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.160 and then in the long run hope that government does 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.520 come to the table and support them when it's you know, 0:43:56.560 --> 0:44:01.000 doing poorly. So whatever package does get announced in the 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:04.239 coming weeks or months, whenever that may be, it needs 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.080 to be very carefully calibrated to not set that precedent, 0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.000 but to also practically support this smelter in this industry, 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:14.480 which is critical to our sovereign capability as a country, 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:16.320 being able to build things, being able to make things, 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.920 which is increasingly important given how volatile our regional economy is. 0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.239 All right, lads, I've got about sixty seconds, but I 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.520 want to see here because no one ever takes a 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.200 grab from a talk show and run it out of 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.640 context when you're running for parliament later in your life. 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.120 So think of that. But the Epstein thing right now, 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:35.960 I've got to say, you know, I'm not a conspiracy 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.520 theory person, but certainly there's a lot to read about 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.759 on this particular issue. Right now, I'm going to open 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.799 the door to both of you. What's the one thing 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:44.560 that you know may not be true, but for some 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.600 reason you keep reading articles about it? 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:51.200 Ed, Well, you put me on the spot. 0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:51.719 I'm not sure. 0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.160 I mean, I look on the app side thing itself. 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.680 I mean, my god, who knows what's going on there? 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.000 That's not something I sort of spend. 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.200 A lot of Fortunately, I like that you're keeping the 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.120 notebook clean because he's running for something somewhere. This is 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.200 the test if you're running for part what's the one 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.560 that just ever so slightly you know it's probably not true, 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.319 but every now and then you read too much about it. 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.480 Paul, I can send you the list of a dozen 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:22.880 different podcasts I've tuned into on the jfk assassination. 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.200 Yeah, I'm not a great believer in the magic bullet theory, 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.320 but that's just me. We'll see whether you'll get canceled 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.719 for saying such things. Let's do appreciate it. Thank you 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.200 all right, quick break back. We more plenty more to 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.200 talk about here on Paul Murray Live and then the 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:40.880 late Debate in about eight minutes from now back in 0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.120 South Australia for our town in a couple of weeks time. 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.439 If you'd like to join us Sunday, the twenty seventh 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.520 of July, pushing it hot and hard because I want 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.920 as many people in Mount Gambia as possible. Send me 0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:51.920 an email right now for a free ticket to ourtown. 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.960 That's Gonews dot com dot au. Now you know Quantus, 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.839 of course, and the Quantus data hack, which has been 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.799 a new story of the past couple of days. Well, 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.200 the boss of Quanus is now back from dealing with 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.560 this in part overseas, where, among other things, she says, 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.880 the data we were deleting was more personal identity data 0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.040 that has been historically held in our systems, such as 0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:18.160 passport details and other relevant identity data. That has been 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:20.600 an action that we took as a result of the 0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:24.520 Optus and Medibank cyber haacks. Cool, But about the stuff 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.920 that somebody did steal Now again, I do hear a 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.160 lot of people Tenner ound say they must be more 0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.560 careful with their data. Yet they are somebody broke into 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.560 the vault and somebody stole it. Okay, they didn't accidentally 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:40.399 email it out across the world. But it does seem 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.960 there might be anh dare I say gossipy angle to 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.440 all of this. Apparently because it was all in connection 0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:50.399 with frequent flyer, the person who has stolen this stuff, 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.120 and it is a crime, may well be able to 0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.160 know whom is in and out of the chairman's lounge. 0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.759 I'll give you the guess. Most of the people you 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:03.440 think probably in it right, and I love that you're not. 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.279 Now speaking of flying, if you've ever had the chance 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.400 to fly through America, you know that it can be 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.160 a compared to what it's like to get around in 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.440 Australian airport. Lthough they can be frustrating at times. You 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.480 know when you go through security and previously they've told 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:19.960 you have to take your shoes off and you get 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:21.319 what the shoe bomber? What was that? 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:21.520 That was? 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.120 How long ago? Ten years ago? Guess what announced by 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:27.520 the Trump administration the very reason why Orange Man good. 0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.839 If you fly anywhere in the United States from now, 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.560 you can cape your freaking shoes on. 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:39.520 TSA first implemented the no shoes policy in two thousand 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:43.040 and six, almost twenty years ago. And in those twenty 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.640 years since that policy was put in place, our security 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:51.840 technology has changed dramatically. It's evolved. TSA has changed. We 0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:55.160 have a multi layered hole of government approach now to 0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:59.760 security and to the environment that people anticipate and experience 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.719 when come into an airport that has been honed and 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:03.680 it's been hardened. 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:08.920 Now. The other idea here is I think if we 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:10.719 want to just a little free advice again just to 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.840 hurry people along. And I don't know whether it is 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.320 going to be the difference between horrible things and okay things. 0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.920 Do we have to take off our belts anymore? Look 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.640 as a slightly retund fellow who without a belt to 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.359 get messy, right, But when you're standing there and you're 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.239 holding up your duds while you're trying to push all 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.680 the other stuff through, and you're going, sorry, who's done 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:32.879 what with a belt in the air because they still 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.360 get to take it with me when I go on 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.440 the plane, right, it's not like it's a lighter or 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:40.080 it's a pocket knife or something like that. But still, 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.120 for those of us that are of the heavier set, 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.160 just let us have it. Just I'll do the wand 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:47.640 on the other side, right, I'll do this. I'll move 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.360 over the side. You can do the wand okay, you 0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:53.640 can even pat me down if you've a masochist. By 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:55.920 the way, the person that you just saw there as 0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:59.480 the secretary who is in charge of Homeland Security. Christi 0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:01.799 nam to be a governor, and she was on her 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:05.360 way to being a Trump's vice presidential pick until she 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.480 wrote a book about her life where she admitted to 0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:12.440 shooting an animal in the face. This was not an 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.600 expose a she wrote it in her own book. But 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.520 still she looks good on TV, so Trump of course hireder. 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:20.040 See you tomorrow.