1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Approache production. 2 00:00:16,881 --> 00:00:19,601 Speaker 2: When I was unfortunately but within my house did get raided, 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,561 Speaker 2: I was so coked up that I was I just 4 00:00:22,601 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: got to be complacent, you know, when you're just like 5 00:00:24,241 --> 00:00:25,601 Speaker 2: usually I would have only a little bit of my 6 00:00:25,601 --> 00:00:27,161 Speaker 2: house at any one time, and I'd just go back 7 00:00:27,201 --> 00:00:28,721 Speaker 2: and forth, back and forth. But if I'm too high 8 00:00:28,761 --> 00:00:31,001 Speaker 2: on coke, sometimes I get lazy and just be like, 9 00:00:31,001 --> 00:00:32,521 Speaker 2: oh fuck it, I'll have more at the house. So 10 00:00:32,561 --> 00:00:34,241 Speaker 2: it just save me having to go back and forth. 11 00:00:34,721 --> 00:00:37,361 Speaker 2: And so the day that they got raided, I probably 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: had a medium amount of like what I could have 13 00:00:39,561 --> 00:00:42,161 Speaker 2: been caught with. Like it wasn't the worst, but I 14 00:00:42,161 --> 00:00:43,201 Speaker 2: could have been better as well. 15 00:00:43,641 --> 00:00:45,641 Speaker 3: You didn't even think like like it sounds like you 16 00:00:45,681 --> 00:00:48,081 Speaker 3: didn't even flinch about other dealer's trying to take your 17 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:51,841 Speaker 3: shits or nothing like that, or anyone coming around or rivals. 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: Nah nah, no, you sound like that that helps and 19 00:00:55,321 --> 00:00:56,521 Speaker 3: lockstock and battle. 20 00:00:57,921 --> 00:01:00,921 Speaker 1: The weed out. Yeah, I guess it was probably like that. 21 00:01:01,321 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: But like the thing is, because I was selling mainly, 22 00:01:04,361 --> 00:01:06,921 Speaker 2: like I was known mainly for mushrooms and acid. Anytime 23 00:01:06,921 --> 00:01:08,681 Speaker 2: I'm bumped into any bigger players that I try to 24 00:01:08,681 --> 00:01:11,721 Speaker 2: sell mushrooms too. They were also focused on ice or 25 00:01:11,721 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: coke that I'd say mushrooms and they go, it's too trippy, 26 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:16,881 Speaker 2: bro like that that I was irrelevant to them, you know, 27 00:01:17,041 --> 00:01:19,481 Speaker 2: So I I just meant that I was able to 28 00:01:19,481 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: operate almost invisible as my own little fief to them. 29 00:01:22,481 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: And so it ended up being a pretty good at learner. 30 00:01:25,601 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: Got you caught In the end, my fiance had a 31 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,761 Speaker 2: mental breakdown on cocaine and ran off with like a 32 00:01:29,761 --> 00:01:31,761 Speaker 2: bunch of cash and drugs and got picked up and 33 00:01:31,801 --> 00:01:33,401 Speaker 2: told the cops that I was a massive drug dealer, 34 00:01:33,441 --> 00:01:38,041 Speaker 2: as that was a problem for these and yeah, so 35 00:01:38,081 --> 00:01:39,681 Speaker 2: the house got raided and what do you do? 36 00:01:40,401 --> 00:01:40,681 Speaker 4: Shit? 37 00:01:41,241 --> 00:01:43,401 Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, it was a good run. 38 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: But you know, it's like any of these cliche movies. 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,761 Speaker 1: At some point, Got a good Woman brings you down? 40 00:01:51,441 --> 00:01:54,361 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, I'm going to go back and be because 41 00:01:54,361 --> 00:01:56,961 Speaker 3: I had to look up what you know you on 42 00:01:56,961 --> 00:01:58,881 Speaker 3: on everything that I could find so I could get 43 00:01:58,881 --> 00:02:02,121 Speaker 3: a little some nitty gritty shits on you. So you're 44 00:02:02,121 --> 00:02:04,761 Speaker 3: on the pizza restaurant, Yeah, were you showing from it? 45 00:02:05,201 --> 00:02:08,161 Speaker 1: Nah? No, I kept the business and the pleasure. 46 00:02:07,841 --> 00:02:09,961 Speaker 3: Because I was thinking, fat, this is like a fucking new. 47 00:02:09,921 --> 00:02:12,001 Speaker 4: But thing this, you know what I mean? 48 00:02:12,161 --> 00:02:12,361 Speaker 5: Yeah? 49 00:02:12,761 --> 00:02:15,241 Speaker 1: Did I just get the three hundred special pizza? 50 00:02:15,361 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 51 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,001 Speaker 4: Do you want to cope with that? Yeah? 52 00:02:17,601 --> 00:02:20,161 Speaker 1: The magic mushroom pizza. 53 00:02:20,601 --> 00:02:22,161 Speaker 4: So that that was kept separate? Was it? 54 00:02:22,201 --> 00:02:23,121 Speaker 1: That was kept sever ye? 55 00:02:23,161 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so everything was just from the house. Yeah. 56 00:02:25,481 --> 00:02:30,121 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, So your missusses get like gone out and 57 00:02:30,161 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: she's kind of like told everyone you know in a 58 00:02:33,001 --> 00:02:35,721 Speaker 3: fifth of state. Did that happen because you hadn't argument? 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: Or did she just flip out on the drugs? 60 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,241 Speaker 2: And now she had too much coke I think, and 61 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: not enough sleep and she had some psychosis, sought the 62 00:02:41,761 --> 00:02:43,441 Speaker 2: mafia were trying to kill her or something, and ran 63 00:02:43,481 --> 00:02:46,481 Speaker 2: off and got picked up by the cops and uh, yeah, 64 00:02:46,481 --> 00:02:48,201 Speaker 2: I just told him that I was a dealer and 65 00:02:48,561 --> 00:02:49,481 Speaker 2: got the house rated. 66 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,681 Speaker 4: But she just went to a cop shop, you know. 67 00:02:51,721 --> 00:02:54,561 Speaker 2: She got picked up in a park in like Cronella somewhere, 68 00:02:54,601 --> 00:02:56,921 Speaker 2: freaking out and they just came across her. 69 00:02:57,361 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: So where were you living at this time? 70 00:02:58,841 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: This is sorry Hills, out of townhouse. 71 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: So she's gone allways from sort of hills to Cronola. Yeah, 72 00:03:03,081 --> 00:03:06,081 Speaker 3: flipped out. Yeah, And then the coppers have believed don't 73 00:03:06,081 --> 00:03:07,721 Speaker 3: come to old brought her back and then they've searched 74 00:03:07,761 --> 00:03:09,401 Speaker 3: you or you didn't even know they were comment. 75 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,321 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, they waited a little while, and so 76 00:03:12,401 --> 00:03:16,401 Speaker 2: I like laid low for ages, and then for about 77 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,361 Speaker 2: probably like six months, I laid low, and then I 78 00:03:19,401 --> 00:03:20,601 Speaker 2: was like, fuck, if I was going to ray, they 79 00:03:20,601 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: would have done it by now. And then eventually I 80 00:03:23,121 --> 00:03:25,401 Speaker 2: just got back into it, and then they eventually rated 81 00:03:25,441 --> 00:03:26,201 Speaker 2: it okay. 82 00:03:26,281 --> 00:03:28,601 Speaker 4: And were you still with your missus when that happened. 83 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,201 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I knew she'd sucked up. I 84 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: know she didn't mean to, so I was happy to 85 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,321 Speaker 2: stay with her. But then she bailed on me when 86 00:03:34,361 --> 00:03:36,521 Speaker 2: I was in jail. I really had like two weeks 87 00:03:36,561 --> 00:03:37,561 Speaker 2: into jail, she bailed on me. 88 00:03:37,881 --> 00:03:38,561 Speaker 1: So what do you do? 89 00:03:39,001 --> 00:03:42,761 Speaker 3: Fucking hell? So tell me about when you got raided? Like, 90 00:03:42,961 --> 00:03:44,801 Speaker 3: what did they find that at the house when you. 91 00:03:45,881 --> 00:03:49,601 Speaker 2: They found like I think about four hundred grams about 92 00:03:49,641 --> 00:03:52,401 Speaker 2: half a kilo of magic mushrooms. They found about three 93 00:03:52,521 --> 00:03:56,841 Speaker 2: hundred acid tabs about ounce or so, with a bit 94 00:03:56,881 --> 00:04:00,601 Speaker 2: more of MD, about half an oca of cat and 95 00:04:01,041 --> 00:04:05,881 Speaker 2: of coke. And yeah, so it was a fash. Yeah, 96 00:04:05,881 --> 00:04:08,521 Speaker 2: but I think like fifteen twenty grand maybe of cash. 97 00:04:08,721 --> 00:04:10,281 Speaker 4: So what's going through your head that this time? 98 00:04:10,521 --> 00:04:14,841 Speaker 2: I thought it was an idea I was so I 99 00:04:14,881 --> 00:04:15,241 Speaker 2: was high. 100 00:04:15,281 --> 00:04:16,881 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't slept in like three days. 101 00:04:16,881 --> 00:04:19,961 Speaker 2: I was on coke and I hadn't slept, And when 102 00:04:19,961 --> 00:04:22,561 Speaker 2: they started raiding, the house was all pretty hectic, and 103 00:04:22,641 --> 00:04:24,721 Speaker 2: so I don't know, I didn't really have time to 104 00:04:24,761 --> 00:04:26,841 Speaker 2: think about it too much other than thinking like, fuck, 105 00:04:26,841 --> 00:04:29,361 Speaker 2: all right, I'll get pinched, I'll get bail, I'll fucking 106 00:04:29,641 --> 00:04:31,881 Speaker 2: i'll go to the backup house and fucking sell gear 107 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,121 Speaker 2: from there and fucking just sort this situation out. And 108 00:04:35,721 --> 00:04:37,361 Speaker 2: I know, at no point in my head did I 109 00:04:37,361 --> 00:04:39,121 Speaker 2: think I was going to get refused bail and said 110 00:04:39,121 --> 00:04:41,681 Speaker 2: straight to prison. Yeah, yeah, you know, I think I 111 00:04:41,721 --> 00:04:43,841 Speaker 2: was just in my head deluded that I just get 112 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,561 Speaker 2: bail that day. 113 00:04:45,001 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, you go. 114 00:04:46,041 --> 00:04:47,601 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I didn't know, but I didn't 115 00:04:47,601 --> 00:04:48,761 Speaker 2: think it could happen to me that I can just 116 00:04:48,761 --> 00:04:49,801 Speaker 2: get set straight to prison. 117 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: And your first defense, first drug offense. 118 00:04:53,561 --> 00:04:55,841 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had an assult charge from like twenty years ago, 119 00:04:56,081 --> 00:04:59,001 Speaker 2: but it was my first drug offense. And yeah, so look, 120 00:04:59,161 --> 00:05:00,881 Speaker 2: you know, you wake up twenty four hours after that, 121 00:05:00,961 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: I'm in a max security prison. 122 00:05:03,201 --> 00:05:06,841 Speaker 3: Wow, it's okay, So you refuse bail, You're taken to 123 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,281 Speaker 3: the prison. 124 00:05:08,521 --> 00:05:10,841 Speaker 5: What it was that feelingly, Wow, it was a weird 125 00:05:10,841 --> 00:05:12,601 Speaker 5: feeling because it was during COVID, So like I was 126 00:05:13,161 --> 00:05:14,321 Speaker 5: in Parkley Prison. 127 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:17,001 Speaker 1: You're like, you got a fucking me. Yeah, so you 128 00:05:17,121 --> 00:05:17,921 Speaker 1: got a strip naked. 129 00:05:17,961 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: You're getting used to fucking just being a slab of meat, 130 00:05:20,241 --> 00:05:22,361 Speaker 2: having a lift your ballsack and fucking flick your ears 131 00:05:22,361 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: and whatever, and you know, changed out of your clothes 132 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,801 Speaker 2: into green clothes and getting processed and like I'm still 133 00:05:27,841 --> 00:05:29,281 Speaker 2: fucking like recovering from. 134 00:05:29,481 --> 00:05:30,121 Speaker 1: A coke bender. 135 00:05:30,201 --> 00:05:32,281 Speaker 2: So it's all a bit of a blur, and you're 136 00:05:32,281 --> 00:05:34,921 Speaker 2: getting tested for COVID and then you're putting quarantine for 137 00:05:35,041 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: two weeks, and so it was kind of like a 138 00:05:37,361 --> 00:05:40,041 Speaker 2: weird way of getting used to jail because like the 139 00:05:40,041 --> 00:05:42,121 Speaker 2: first two weeks, you can hear the sound of a prison, 140 00:05:42,161 --> 00:05:44,401 Speaker 2: but you're in your own self for like, so you're 141 00:05:44,401 --> 00:05:46,041 Speaker 2: like you're in your head going like, what the fuck's 142 00:05:46,041 --> 00:05:48,641 Speaker 2: are going to be like out there? So that made 143 00:05:48,681 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: it harder because for the first two weeks I was 144 00:05:50,601 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: in quarantine and I had no TV or books for 145 00:05:53,801 --> 00:05:56,281 Speaker 2: the first ten days, and so you just did a 146 00:05:56,361 --> 00:05:57,961 Speaker 2: cell for twenty three and a half hours a day 147 00:05:58,001 --> 00:05:59,921 Speaker 2: with nothing to do other than stare at the ceiling, 148 00:06:00,721 --> 00:06:03,241 Speaker 2: try and sleep, or just be stuck in your own 149 00:06:03,281 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: fucked thoughts, which are. 150 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,841 Speaker 1: Only negative for that point because you've just been pinched right. 151 00:06:06,961 --> 00:06:09,041 Speaker 2: So it was pretty That was probably the hardest part 152 00:06:09,041 --> 00:06:11,481 Speaker 2: of the whole thing was just particularly in my businesses, 153 00:06:11,921 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: no visitors, nothing like I hadn't figured out to add 154 00:06:15,161 --> 00:06:17,801 Speaker 2: numbers to the phone yet, so like, it was just 155 00:06:17,841 --> 00:06:19,201 Speaker 2: you're just stuck in a cell for twenty three and 156 00:06:19,201 --> 00:06:22,121 Speaker 2: a half hours a day, just pacing around, just doing nothing, 157 00:06:22,161 --> 00:06:23,681 Speaker 2: trying to break up the day in any way you can. 158 00:06:24,281 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: What about your family? Did they know about it all this? 159 00:06:26,121 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: Did they have a clue what you were doing? 160 00:06:27,801 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: Nah? I don't think they hadn't nuther club what I 161 00:06:29,801 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: was doing. But I did have a phone call with 162 00:06:31,361 --> 00:06:33,521 Speaker 2: them when I was in there for about five days 163 00:06:33,601 --> 00:06:35,641 Speaker 2: to just to I was able to speak with them, 164 00:06:35,681 --> 00:06:37,921 Speaker 2: and they said that they thought Joe was probably going 165 00:06:37,961 --> 00:06:39,681 Speaker 2: to be the best thing for me, which. 166 00:06:39,481 --> 00:06:43,121 Speaker 5: Wasn't really helpful. They ended up being right, But it's 167 00:06:43,161 --> 00:06:46,561 Speaker 5: like you know, well, it's just happened. You're like, shut up, 168 00:06:48,081 --> 00:06:51,481 Speaker 5: You're probably right, but it is not the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 169 00:06:51,521 --> 00:06:52,321 Speaker 5: you're not ready for that. 170 00:06:52,481 --> 00:06:52,961 Speaker 4: Yeah. 171 00:06:53,001 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: So you get through the quarantine part, which was fucked, 172 00:06:56,601 --> 00:06:57,361 Speaker 2: and then. 173 00:06:57,761 --> 00:06:59,481 Speaker 4: Who's the first person that you spoke to in there? 174 00:06:59,961 --> 00:07:01,841 Speaker 2: The first person I spoke to was my Seally, the 175 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: guy who I traveled in the truck with from park 176 00:07:04,561 --> 00:07:08,281 Speaker 2: to park, and he and I ended up becoming very 177 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,561 Speaker 2: good friends and we ended up being cell mates. And 178 00:07:10,561 --> 00:07:13,561 Speaker 2: form he was in there because he worked at the 179 00:07:13,641 --> 00:07:17,041 Speaker 2: docks and he was just a guy that passed on information. 180 00:07:17,201 --> 00:07:19,681 Speaker 2: If the AFP were looking in certain containers, then he 181 00:07:19,681 --> 00:07:22,321 Speaker 2: would just like just give him a tip off. And 182 00:07:22,401 --> 00:07:24,561 Speaker 2: so he got arrested for that. When when the animal 183 00:07:24,601 --> 00:07:28,401 Speaker 2: takedown went down, when you know, they had that app 184 00:07:28,441 --> 00:07:30,761 Speaker 2: that was created by the FBO and they took the 185 00:07:30,801 --> 00:07:32,681 Speaker 2: hands of people. I got a rested that same weekend 186 00:07:32,681 --> 00:07:34,361 Speaker 2: and that happened. So a lot of guys in jail 187 00:07:34,401 --> 00:07:35,961 Speaker 2: thought I was a lot bigger than I was because 188 00:07:35,961 --> 00:07:37,801 Speaker 2: they thought I was part of this animal thing and 189 00:07:37,801 --> 00:07:39,921 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm. 190 00:07:39,721 --> 00:07:40,601 Speaker 1: Just a friendly. 191 00:07:41,961 --> 00:07:44,521 Speaker 2: I'm just a friendly neighborhood mushroom de Leverter from Sarry Hill, 192 00:07:44,601 --> 00:07:45,721 Speaker 2: so it doesn't know anyone. 193 00:07:48,481 --> 00:07:51,001 Speaker 1: Body. So yeah, he was the first. 194 00:07:50,841 --> 00:07:53,481 Speaker 2: Guy I spoke, So we ended up being him being 195 00:07:53,881 --> 00:07:56,161 Speaker 2: Selli's and the four different prison wings, and he was great. 196 00:07:56,281 --> 00:07:57,841 Speaker 4: He helped me through a lot of. 197 00:07:57,961 --> 00:08:00,361 Speaker 2: I didn't been in there before, No, there was Probably 198 00:08:00,601 --> 00:08:02,201 Speaker 2: the reason we connected was because we're both in there 199 00:08:02,241 --> 00:08:04,521 Speaker 2: for the first time and we're both figuring it out together, 200 00:08:04,641 --> 00:08:06,561 Speaker 2: having no idea what the fuck the systems are for 201 00:08:06,641 --> 00:08:10,201 Speaker 2: everything from like from buy up to fucking like just 202 00:08:11,081 --> 00:08:13,761 Speaker 2: yard politics, to fucking making the phone work, to get 203 00:08:13,841 --> 00:08:16,481 Speaker 2: the phone working, to just get anything. We were all 204 00:08:16,481 --> 00:08:18,401 Speaker 2: figuring it out together, so it was good to have 205 00:08:18,441 --> 00:08:20,481 Speaker 2: someone who was as clueless as I was. 206 00:08:20,841 --> 00:08:23,521 Speaker 3: So when when you eventually got to be a normal 207 00:08:23,641 --> 00:08:26,961 Speaker 3: person inside there, did you get any bother Did anybody 208 00:08:27,001 --> 00:08:29,001 Speaker 3: come over to ask you who you were or anything 209 00:08:29,041 --> 00:08:29,201 Speaker 3: like that? 210 00:08:29,321 --> 00:08:30,241 Speaker 4: Or they just left you alone? 211 00:08:30,281 --> 00:08:32,081 Speaker 1: Did you just I. 212 00:08:32,041 --> 00:08:34,801 Speaker 2: Didn't really have anyone particularly has some mean sometimes guys 213 00:08:34,841 --> 00:08:37,361 Speaker 2: would would would try and like test you in like 214 00:08:37,401 --> 00:08:39,001 Speaker 2: the phone line, try and push in front of you 215 00:08:39,121 --> 00:08:39,801 Speaker 2: or something like that. 216 00:08:40,121 --> 00:08:41,681 Speaker 1: Or there was one guy. 217 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:43,041 Speaker 2: Who pinched me on the ass a couple of times, 218 00:08:43,081 --> 00:08:44,561 Speaker 2: and I thought fuck, this could be a problem because 219 00:08:44,561 --> 00:08:46,761 Speaker 2: it was pretty it was pretty big, and I was like, fuck, 220 00:08:46,961 --> 00:08:48,761 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to fucking fight this guy, because. 221 00:08:49,081 --> 00:08:52,761 Speaker 1: You know it's going to be hard. But likely part 222 00:08:52,761 --> 00:08:53,081 Speaker 1: of it. 223 00:08:53,041 --> 00:08:55,001 Speaker 2: Is that I'm also I'm not small, so I think 224 00:08:55,121 --> 00:08:56,841 Speaker 2: like and it looked like I always stand up for myself, 225 00:08:56,841 --> 00:08:59,201 Speaker 2: So they usually go for whoever's the weakest target. You know, 226 00:08:59,601 --> 00:09:01,881 Speaker 2: any guys look like you can go steal their buy 227 00:09:01,961 --> 00:09:03,561 Speaker 2: up and they won't even say anything, or if they do, 228 00:09:03,681 --> 00:09:04,921 Speaker 2: you can just punch them in their hand. I'll go 229 00:09:05,121 --> 00:09:09,481 Speaker 2: those guys much before anyone who they think can actually 230 00:09:09,601 --> 00:09:13,081 Speaker 2: like probably give them a fair fight. But I made 231 00:09:13,081 --> 00:09:16,161 Speaker 2: some mates in the yard and just tried to if 232 00:09:16,161 --> 00:09:18,801 Speaker 2: you're not wracking up drug debts and you're not involved 233 00:09:18,801 --> 00:09:21,721 Speaker 2: in the drug trade in there, and you're not talking shit, 234 00:09:21,801 --> 00:09:24,041 Speaker 2: you're not involved in any kind of gang beefs, you 235 00:09:24,081 --> 00:09:25,801 Speaker 2: can kind of find a way to face this out 236 00:09:25,881 --> 00:09:28,201 Speaker 2: out of trouble, you know. And so that's what I did, 237 00:09:28,281 --> 00:09:30,521 Speaker 2: was just try and not get into any arguments with 238 00:09:30,521 --> 00:09:32,801 Speaker 2: anyone and just mind my own business and just get 239 00:09:32,801 --> 00:09:33,481 Speaker 2: through my days. 240 00:09:33,521 --> 00:09:35,161 Speaker 4: What the prison goes with you with you are right 241 00:09:35,201 --> 00:09:35,401 Speaker 4: with you? 242 00:09:36,001 --> 00:09:38,401 Speaker 1: I found that park Lee. 243 00:09:38,641 --> 00:09:40,681 Speaker 2: They were pretty putrid, Like it was just something I 244 00:09:40,801 --> 00:09:43,121 Speaker 2: think about the culture. It's a private prison, right, so 245 00:09:43,201 --> 00:09:45,241 Speaker 2: I think there's just something about the way a private 246 00:09:45,281 --> 00:09:48,761 Speaker 2: prison is run which seems to run through the entire 247 00:09:48,801 --> 00:09:50,921 Speaker 2: culture of the way that they're trained and taught is 248 00:09:50,921 --> 00:09:52,841 Speaker 2: to treat you as subhuman, just like that you're not 249 00:09:52,921 --> 00:09:57,481 Speaker 2: even there. And I think that also happens to permeate 250 00:09:57,561 --> 00:10:01,801 Speaker 2: into the nursing group there, which is Saint Vincent's Hospital, 251 00:10:01,881 --> 00:10:05,401 Speaker 2: because the same way I ask them every day, I said, 252 00:10:05,401 --> 00:10:07,681 Speaker 2: I have asthma, I'm asking for eventhuland Inhaler and every 253 00:10:07,721 --> 00:10:09,761 Speaker 2: day just look at you like they have never spoken 254 00:10:09,761 --> 00:10:11,721 Speaker 2: to you before they go, we'll have to check, And 255 00:10:11,761 --> 00:10:14,241 Speaker 2: I'm like, I've asked you this seventeen days in a row, 256 00:10:14,481 --> 00:10:17,521 Speaker 2: like what are we doing here? And so it just 257 00:10:17,761 --> 00:10:20,001 Speaker 2: drives you insane because you feel like you're having Groundhog 258 00:10:20,081 --> 00:10:20,801 Speaker 2: Day every day. 259 00:10:21,001 --> 00:10:21,841 Speaker 1: And I remember I. 260 00:10:21,801 --> 00:10:24,001 Speaker 2: Asked them for pananole because I had a cold, and 261 00:10:24,521 --> 00:10:26,961 Speaker 2: my Sally told me, don't fucking ask him for pananole 262 00:10:27,001 --> 00:10:29,801 Speaker 2: because you're going to fucking get us locked away for COVID. 263 00:10:30,441 --> 00:10:32,521 Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, they're decent people. 264 00:10:32,881 --> 00:10:35,001 Speaker 2: They're going to give me a fucking panalole, that's all right. 265 00:10:35,121 --> 00:10:37,121 Speaker 2: So I asked them for panadole. We both got locked 266 00:10:37,121 --> 00:10:40,121 Speaker 2: away for COVID and he was like, I fucking told you, 267 00:10:40,161 --> 00:10:42,001 Speaker 2: and I'm all right, I'm sorry. So I had to 268 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:43,561 Speaker 2: lay there in a bed for like three days with 269 00:10:43,721 --> 00:10:46,281 Speaker 2: throbbing cold, and I all I wanted was a fucking panadole. 270 00:10:46,921 --> 00:10:49,001 Speaker 2: And we had to wait in there for three days 271 00:10:49,081 --> 00:10:52,001 Speaker 2: pending a COVID test. And when we got out, one 272 00:10:52,001 --> 00:10:53,641 Speaker 2: of the other inmates come to me and goes, mate, 273 00:10:53,681 --> 00:10:55,961 Speaker 2: here's some panadole. Next time you need help, don't ask 274 00:10:56,001 --> 00:10:58,161 Speaker 2: the screws. Don't ask the nurses. They'll never help you. 275 00:10:58,321 --> 00:11:00,121 Speaker 2: The other boys will help you. And that showed me 276 00:11:00,161 --> 00:11:02,881 Speaker 2: everything I needed to know, right, which is like, by Parkley, 277 00:11:02,921 --> 00:11:04,521 Speaker 2: they were never there to help you in any way. 278 00:11:04,561 --> 00:11:06,001 Speaker 2: And that's why I read a letter to the governor 279 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:07,961 Speaker 2: and was like, this is a culture you've created, and 280 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:10,921 Speaker 2: that's why if anyone does have COVID, the whole place 281 00:11:11,001 --> 00:11:13,761 Speaker 2: is going to erupt into a fucking COVID outbreak because 282 00:11:14,041 --> 00:11:16,321 Speaker 2: no one would ever speak because you know, guys can't 283 00:11:16,361 --> 00:11:19,681 Speaker 2: help them. Four weeks later, Parkley Prison had the biggest 284 00:11:19,681 --> 00:11:22,241 Speaker 2: COVID outbreak in any prison in the country. So I 285 00:11:23,081 --> 00:11:26,001 Speaker 2: fucking told you so. Anyway, it's now there, it's changing, 286 00:11:26,281 --> 00:11:27,281 Speaker 2: it's now becoming. 287 00:11:26,961 --> 00:11:28,761 Speaker 4: Back a public present a couple of months or something 288 00:11:28,761 --> 00:11:29,321 Speaker 4: like that, it's. 289 00:11:29,161 --> 00:11:31,801 Speaker 2: Going back to being a public prison because and it's 290 00:11:31,841 --> 00:11:34,321 Speaker 2: a good thing, because private prisons is just something wrong. 291 00:11:34,321 --> 00:11:36,401 Speaker 1: Because I've got sent to Long Bay soon after I 292 00:11:36,441 --> 00:11:38,481 Speaker 1: sent that letter. I don't know if it's connected, but 293 00:11:38,681 --> 00:11:39,001 Speaker 1: I don't know. 294 00:11:39,001 --> 00:11:40,521 Speaker 2: If they thought it was a nuisance or whether I 295 00:11:40,561 --> 00:11:43,201 Speaker 2: got sent to Long Bay for any other reason. But 296 00:11:43,241 --> 00:11:45,681 Speaker 2: I went there and it's public prison. Got treated great 297 00:11:45,721 --> 00:11:49,481 Speaker 2: straight away, straight away. If you give them respect, they'll 298 00:11:49,481 --> 00:11:50,761 Speaker 2: give it back to you. They'll treat you like a 299 00:11:50,841 --> 00:11:53,281 Speaker 2: human being. And that just showed me night and day 300 00:11:53,401 --> 00:11:57,521 Speaker 2: that Parkley had these amazing facilities make much better than 301 00:11:57,881 --> 00:12:00,521 Speaker 2: Long Bay, but it's riding on the inside. It's treated 302 00:12:00,601 --> 00:12:02,201 Speaker 2: they don't treat you like human beings. And then you 303 00:12:02,241 --> 00:12:03,961 Speaker 2: go to Long Bay and it's like the place is 304 00:12:03,961 --> 00:12:06,641 Speaker 2: falling apart. It's like rat and fested fucking shithole. But 305 00:12:06,881 --> 00:12:08,801 Speaker 2: at least you get treated nice enough. 306 00:12:08,881 --> 00:12:10,801 Speaker 4: You know, how long, how long you have your sentence 307 00:12:10,841 --> 00:12:11,801 Speaker 4: were you're in Long before. 308 00:12:11,841 --> 00:12:14,241 Speaker 2: So I was in Parkley for two months and then 309 00:12:14,321 --> 00:12:17,921 Speaker 2: I got sent to Long Bay for two months, and 310 00:12:17,961 --> 00:12:20,081 Speaker 2: then I got bail, and then I was under house 311 00:12:20,121 --> 00:12:22,681 Speaker 2: arrest for about six months. And then I got sentenced 312 00:12:22,681 --> 00:12:25,761 Speaker 2: to an ICO, which is an intensive corrections order, and 313 00:12:25,761 --> 00:12:27,761 Speaker 2: I got put on a two and a half year ICO, 314 00:12:27,841 --> 00:12:29,601 Speaker 2: which is like a prison sentence that you do in 315 00:12:29,641 --> 00:12:32,921 Speaker 2: the community. Yeah, and that finished in December last year. 316 00:12:33,561 --> 00:12:36,121 Speaker 2: I finished in December last year. Yeah, so it's all, 317 00:12:36,401 --> 00:12:37,641 Speaker 2: oh wow, so. 318 00:12:37,481 --> 00:12:38,921 Speaker 1: Now I'm allowed to travel again. 319 00:12:39,321 --> 00:12:41,881 Speaker 4: Ah wow with you know, oh shit. 320 00:12:42,121 --> 00:12:43,481 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's all pretty recent. 321 00:12:43,761 --> 00:12:43,961 Speaker 5: Yeah. 322 00:12:44,441 --> 00:12:46,561 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew it was back in twenty twenty one, but. 323 00:12:46,521 --> 00:12:48,001 Speaker 4: I didn't realize it just ended. 324 00:12:47,761 --> 00:12:48,841 Speaker 1: Recently year December. 325 00:12:49,721 --> 00:12:50,241 Speaker 4: Oh shit. 326 00:12:51,001 --> 00:12:53,841 Speaker 2: So it was quite funny because I got invited by 327 00:12:54,721 --> 00:12:57,921 Speaker 2: Silverwater Prison to perform up to do stand up comedy 328 00:12:57,961 --> 00:13:01,441 Speaker 2: in there last year, but then I failed their own 329 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:03,681 Speaker 2: background check because I was still on an ICO. 330 00:13:06,521 --> 00:13:08,641 Speaker 3: Want to listen to the episode in full, click the 331 00:13:08,681 --> 00:13:09,521 Speaker 3: link in the description.