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Speaker 1: Apogee Production.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mickey Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically

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Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't

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Speaker 2: call me crazy, so I said it first. Whoever's trying

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Speaker 2: to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,

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Speaker 2: just bring it on. Let's do it. Crazy Crazy Crazy,

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Speaker 2: the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome

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Speaker 2: to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. This week,

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Speaker 2: I have a Village Crazy Lady who's coming before and

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Speaker 2: she's back again. And we've already been laughing so much

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Speaker 2: because it's just felt like a very chaotic morning and

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Speaker 2: the energy at the moment is so weird. We both

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Speaker 2: kind of just feeling like we're floating and not existing

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Speaker 2: on Earth. But Laurens Denietius and I did get that

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Speaker 2: name right, and I said it with confidence your last name,

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Speaker 2: which I always fuck up because I'd say, but I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you're here, so lovely to be here, Lauren, our

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Speaker 2: spirit baby communicator. I forgot to mention to everyone who

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Speaker 2: you are, what you do. Lauren. You came in. I

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Speaker 2: think you were my first guests that I had on

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Speaker 2: on the Village Crazy Lady. So this feels very special,

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Speaker 2: very beautiful. I've been obsessed with you for years. We've

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Speaker 2: had lots of chats before. We always just laugh and

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Speaker 2: like we could talk all day, and you are like

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Speaker 2: the spirit baby queen. And those episodes that we did together,

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Speaker 2: and there's two of them, if you haven't listened to them,

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Speaker 2: they're like literally episode I think two and three on

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Speaker 2: the podcast, So go have a listen. We covered a lot,

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Speaker 2: but there's still so much more that we can cover

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Speaker 2: because people fucking froth spirit babies.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean use froth spirit babies. Well I do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: welcome to my world.

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Speaker 3: You talked to them all the time time before we

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Speaker 3: stat because I because I decided that let's just ask

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Speaker 3: people the questions that they still have after the episodes

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Speaker 3: that we recorded, and I thought that we covered a lot,

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Speaker 3: and we definitely did.

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Speaker 2: But I think there's still so many things that maybe

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Speaker 2: feel obvious to you and I because we work in

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Speaker 2: this realm that aren't obvious to other people. And actually

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions that came in I even would like,

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Speaker 2: oh that's actually really interesting. I didn't even think about that.

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Speaker 2: So people ask some really good questions. So it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be like a really fun Q and A. But before

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Speaker 2: we start, do you reckon there's anything since the last

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Speaker 2: time that we spoke that you've really learned from the

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Speaker 2: spirit babies that you've been chatting to that feels really

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Speaker 2: interesting or powerful or like new information kind of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a couple of things, Like I guess

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Speaker 4: generally there's so much less predictability in what's coming through,

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Speaker 4: and the babies are not as clearly attached or decisive

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Speaker 4: I would say the last six months where babies are

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Speaker 4: I'm going to see I'm kind of feeling around this

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Speaker 4: I'm going to make a decision instead of being I

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Speaker 4: I need to be a scorpio. Yeah, exactly, there's a

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Speaker 4: birthed then. But now it's it's really shifting, and even

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Speaker 4: But that's probably like the main change. But there has

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Speaker 2: That's so fascinating, so it's almost like so it's like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like I think that is a huge

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Speaker 4: like environmental all of these things. It's becoming much it's

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Speaker 1: And so I'm going to leave this.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm from our perspective as humans that

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Speaker 1: What do you mean my womb's not good enough for you?

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Speaker 4: Like, you know, that sort of energy, But there's a

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Speaker 2: I feel like it makes sense though going off I

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Speaker 2: wonder whether that's almost kind of like creating this more

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Speaker 2: You can't disregard the voices of women. You can't disregard

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Speaker 2: like there's been so much that's been ignored. Can't fucking

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Speaker 2: ignore it when no one can have babies anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's a big part of it,

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Speaker 4: Like it's really pushing all of this into the.

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Speaker 1: Spotlight because like it feels like it.

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Speaker 4: Is, and certainly from my perspective, like with these babies,

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Speaker 4: like it is, I think on some level, like a

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Speaker 1: And I guess, you know, there's so many different reasons.

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Speaker 4: For that, but I think, you know, this generation of

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Speaker 4: children are also spotlighting that as well, and for us

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Speaker 4: to you know, explore that and highlight that and investigate

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Speaker 4: that in whatever way feels right for us as a

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Speaker 4: way to help reconnect to that, not as a way

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Speaker 4: to like make it wrong or blah blah blah, but

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Speaker 4: it's like a way to bring balance back to the physicality.

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Speaker 4: I think of all of that, so which I find

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Speaker 4: is really interesting considering babies like the ones I communicate

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Speaker 4: with are you know, they're very energetic and very ethereal

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Speaker 4: I guess in not only their energy and their communication,

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Speaker 4: but often what they're looking for is that way as well.

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Speaker 4: But I find that they're definitely leaning more to this

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Speaker 2: Totally. I'm even just thinking about the energy right now.

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Speaker 2: looked like one basically. Yeah, but because we just kind

432
00:22:30,321 --> 00:22:33,001
Speaker 2: of like forget that importance, and I think maybe these

433
00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:36,321
Speaker 2: babies are just going like that's actually really important now.

434
00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they want us to put ourselves first. Yeah,

435
00:22:40,561 --> 00:22:42,561
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, especially when it comes to conception,

436
00:22:42,681 --> 00:22:46,521
Speaker 4: there's so much striving and this need to feel like

437
00:22:46,561 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: you're doing something to bring these children to earth. But

438
00:22:50,001 --> 00:22:52,161
Speaker 4: in that process, I mean, yes, there can be things

439
00:22:52,201 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: there that can be helpful, but in that process, it's

440
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,121
Speaker 4: it's very there's a lot of what I'm sensing and

441
00:22:59,201 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: what these children are telling me, like, there's a lot

442
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,201
Speaker 4: of self neglect there, and a lot of these children

443
00:23:04,201 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 4: are coming to a part of their own journeys is

444
00:23:07,761 --> 00:23:10,641
Speaker 4: to learn how to look after themselves and to say

445
00:23:10,681 --> 00:23:13,001
Speaker 4: no to people, and to take a break when they

446
00:23:13,001 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 4: need a break and all of these things, and so

447
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: they're wanting us to be able to do that for

448
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,041
Speaker 4: ourselves first before they even arrive, so that when they

449
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:27,721
Speaker 4: do arrive, we as the parents can teach them how

450
00:23:27,721 --> 00:23:29,641
Speaker 4: to do that as well, and to be that role

451
00:23:29,721 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: model for that because so many babies at the moment,

452
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 4: I'm feeling really drawn like to talk about IVF around

453
00:23:36,441 --> 00:23:39,201
Speaker 4: this like where there is so much there's always something

454
00:23:39,201 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 4: to do, and there's often a sense of urgency around

455
00:23:42,241 --> 00:23:45,641
Speaker 4: that as well, and a lot of pressure in each

456
00:23:45,761 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 4: different step of the process is very dependent on the

457
00:23:48,521 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 4: last step and all of these things, and when I

458
00:23:50,961 --> 00:23:54,201
Speaker 4: tune into these babies that are quite happy to come

459
00:23:54,241 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 4: through IVF, some even choosing that they I so often

460
00:23:58,961 --> 00:24:02,721
Speaker 4: get just slow down, slow down, stop trying to rush

461
00:24:02,801 --> 00:24:07,201
Speaker 4: this through because it's it's actually hurting you and it's

462
00:24:07,201 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 4: not helping me come any quicker.

463
00:24:09,721 --> 00:24:13,041
Speaker 2: So spit tier up because you're just imagining that energy

464
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: of being like like, it's okay, like I want to

465
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,281
Speaker 2: come through this way and this is what I've chosen,

466
00:24:18,521 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: but like you can still love yourself in the process.

467
00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:24,801
Speaker 4: You can take an extra couple of months between cycles,

468
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,281
Speaker 4: or you can you know, to go and have a holiday,

469
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: or you know, have a daily nap each week for

470
00:24:31,441 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, or like whatever it is that

471
00:24:33,241 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 4: you need. But they are not wanting They're not wanting

472
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: to come earthside at our expense, if that makes sense, Okay,

473
00:24:42,801 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: I really like just like popped in.

474
00:24:44,961 --> 00:24:46,961
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I haven't thought of it like that before.

475
00:24:47,001 --> 00:24:48,801
Speaker 1: But that again, that's really beautiful.

476
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,801
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not wanting to come earthside at our expense

477
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,161
Speaker 4: because that is not going to help us and as

478
00:24:55,281 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: sure as hell not going to help them. And so

479
00:24:58,241 --> 00:25:00,521
Speaker 4: but I think as humans, especially as women, we do

480
00:25:00,681 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, whether that comes from a sense

481
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 4: of control or just needing to do something to feel

482
00:25:07,921 --> 00:25:11,081
Speaker 4: like we're moving closer. But what's coming through from these

483
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 4: babies is like time is naturally moving us closer to

484
00:25:16,441 --> 00:25:19,801
Speaker 4: time is naturally moving them closer to coming. And it's

485
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,681
Speaker 4: like what we do with that time in between? And yes,

486
00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:25,561
Speaker 4: there are things that we need to do, especially if

487
00:25:25,561 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: it is around IVF, there's obviously different processes, but they're

488
00:25:30,921 --> 00:25:35,041
Speaker 4: wanting us to really shift our I guess it could

489
00:25:35,041 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 4: be a belief or at least a pattern that we

490
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,001
Speaker 4: need to do do do, and that we've got to

491
00:25:40,001 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: do it as quick as possible. We can't take a

492
00:25:42,521 --> 00:25:44,761
Speaker 4: break because the clock is ticking and we're all running

493
00:25:44,761 --> 00:25:47,481
Speaker 4: out of time, and you know, all of this sort

494
00:25:47,521 --> 00:25:50,321
Speaker 4: of thing, and these babies are like no, then, like

495
00:25:50,441 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm not one. That sort of energy that's driving energy

496
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: is not again conducive to And if we talk just

497
00:25:58,481 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: about the physical here, like imagine a womb trying to

498
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:07,881
Speaker 4: prepare to receive a baby under all of that pressure,

499
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: like times running out, I've got to do this quick,

500
00:26:09,961 --> 00:26:11,921
Speaker 4: like it's gotta work, it's gotta work, it's gotta work.

501
00:26:11,961 --> 00:26:15,001
Speaker 1: You know, all of these things like how is a womb.

502
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: Like even as I say that, I feel like my

503
00:26:17,761 --> 00:26:21,441
Speaker 4: own womb like contracting around that. And it's like, how

504
00:26:21,561 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: can you know? We want the womb to feel expansive

505
00:26:24,681 --> 00:26:32,361
Speaker 4: and yeah and plump and ripe and like relax exactly exactly,

506
00:26:33,241 --> 00:26:36,201
Speaker 4: you know, because that's that is the energy that's going

507
00:26:36,241 --> 00:26:39,281
Speaker 4: to receive a baby. That's the energy that these children.

508
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, this sounds really weird, but

509
00:26:42,481 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 4: it's like they want to sounds really awful anyway. It's

510
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:50,961
Speaker 4: like the image I got was them like jumping into

511
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,121
Speaker 4: a pool that's like filled with water and it's got

512
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 4: like all rose petals on top, as opposed to like

513
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 4: landing into like an empty pool. Yeah, and there's like

514
00:26:59,481 --> 00:27:02,001
Speaker 4: no water and they just like crash land on the

515
00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: bottom and it's like it's hard and it's cold and

516
00:27:04,241 --> 00:27:08,401
Speaker 4: it's like nothing to catch them in many ways. And

517
00:27:08,481 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 4: so you know, and a lot of that anything that

518
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,681
Speaker 4: is is depleting us, is going to or what's coming

519
00:27:16,681 --> 00:27:18,481
Speaker 4: through is like it is going to have an effect

520
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: on our ability to receive them. And they want to

521
00:27:22,761 --> 00:27:26,281
Speaker 4: be received. They don't want to be dragged, they don't

522
00:27:26,321 --> 00:27:29,801
Speaker 4: want to feel under pressure. You know babies, they have

523
00:27:30,041 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: very much a bird's eyed, bird's eye view of what's

524
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: going on, and they know about the birds and the bees.

525
00:27:35,961 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: They know like what needs to happen.

526
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 4: They know that women do biologically change as they get older.

527
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: Like they're aware of all of that.

528
00:27:44,321 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you know, we don't need They're aware

529
00:27:47,961 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: that they do have a timeline and they do have

530
00:27:50,041 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: a window to come to the earth, you know, with

531
00:27:53,321 --> 00:27:56,041
Speaker 4: that particular woman or couple or whatever it may be.

532
00:27:56,721 --> 00:27:59,601
Speaker 4: And so when we kind of add to that pressure,

533
00:28:01,281 --> 00:28:05,521
Speaker 4: it's like we're trying to control that. But when they're

534
00:28:05,561 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: already aware of it, they're like, I only need like

535
00:28:08,441 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 4: one opportunity where everything's kind of aligned for me to

536
00:28:12,721 --> 00:28:15,801
Speaker 4: be able to come. But if we're constantly in that

537
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: doing stage of trying to like do all of the

538
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,561
Speaker 4: things all of the time at our own expense, without

539
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: having a break, without filling our own cup, then yeah,

540
00:28:25,961 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: than these babies, even if they try, they really really

541
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: really really struggle to land here because the conditions aren't

542
00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:38,321
Speaker 4: right for them, which is very hard I think for

543
00:28:38,961 --> 00:28:41,401
Speaker 4: the human part of us that does feel like we

544
00:28:41,481 --> 00:28:44,681
Speaker 4: need to be doing something to make things happen.

545
00:28:45,001 --> 00:28:48,761
Speaker 2: Oh and even just like the overthinking and like listening

546
00:28:48,801 --> 00:28:52,921
Speaker 2: to this, I feel like, one there's like zero shame,

547
00:28:53,001 --> 00:28:56,121
Speaker 2: because that's one thing that like spirit babies like do

548
00:28:56,241 --> 00:28:59,721
Speaker 2: not want us to feel any shame any And I

549
00:28:59,801 --> 00:29:03,361
Speaker 2: think that's like been such such a fucking cock block

550
00:29:03,401 --> 00:29:05,961
Speaker 2: for women, you know, because we all ready like add

551
00:29:06,081 --> 00:29:08,881
Speaker 2: shame to every single little thing that we do. And

552
00:29:08,921 --> 00:29:11,801
Speaker 2: so everything that we're talking about, spirit babies come from

553
00:29:11,881 --> 00:29:16,361
Speaker 2: complete just like love and wanting to support you. I

554
00:29:16,401 --> 00:29:20,801
Speaker 2: feel like over the last you know, however long you know,

555
00:29:20,961 --> 00:29:23,281
Speaker 2: like we often a lot of us will have the

556
00:29:23,321 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: baby and then that's it's once we've had the baby,

557
00:29:26,201 --> 00:29:28,401
Speaker 2: that postpartum period, or whether it's a few years later,

558
00:29:28,441 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: you know, over the next few years or whatever it

559
00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:34,881
Speaker 2: is that we really go through that like who am I?

560
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:39,081
Speaker 2: That matrescence that like I've been rebirthed, and and a

561
00:29:39,121 --> 00:29:42,641
Speaker 2: lot of that sort of like the guilt, the shame,

562
00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:48,161
Speaker 2: the inability to receive because we've learned from like you know,

563
00:29:48,361 --> 00:29:51,201
Speaker 2: our moms and their mums or whatever who their job

564
00:29:51,361 --> 00:29:55,441
Speaker 2: was to do to be everything for us if they

565
00:29:55,721 --> 00:29:58,081
Speaker 2: were good, but they would like you know, it was

566
00:29:58,161 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: like sacrifice themselves. The whole point of being you know,

567
00:30:01,801 --> 00:30:03,841
Speaker 2: a woman or a mum or whatever was just to

568
00:30:03,881 --> 00:30:07,321
Speaker 2: sacrifice yourself ea children. And then we're kind of coming

569
00:30:07,401 --> 00:30:10,921
Speaker 2: into this new sort of place where, like, you know,

570
00:30:10,961 --> 00:30:14,241
Speaker 2: the relationship between children and parents is a bit different,

571
00:30:14,281 --> 00:30:17,121
Speaker 2: and we're starting to learn a lot more about their autonomy,

572
00:30:17,161 --> 00:30:19,961
Speaker 2: our autonomy, and I think we're starting to realize that

573
00:30:20,041 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: like for us to be good parents, we need to

574
00:30:21,961 --> 00:30:24,881
Speaker 2: be good us, Like it's more about us looking after

575
00:30:25,001 --> 00:30:26,881
Speaker 2: us to be able to help them. But a lot

576
00:30:26,881 --> 00:30:30,081
Speaker 2: of us are figuring that out until we've had the

577
00:30:30,081 --> 00:30:32,721
Speaker 2: baby and we're in the throes of parenthood and we're

578
00:30:32,761 --> 00:30:34,641
Speaker 2: going this is so fucking hard. I did not expect

579
00:30:34,641 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: this to be like this, and like, who am I?

580
00:30:37,481 --> 00:30:40,961
Speaker 2: What's going on? I'm like, you know, we're learning that,

581
00:30:41,121 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: you know, we have to receipt and it's almost like

582
00:30:44,521 --> 00:30:47,161
Speaker 2: these babies going no. I want you to actually figure

583
00:30:47,201 --> 00:30:49,601
Speaker 2: that out now, Yeah, before I come in, I want

584
00:30:49,641 --> 00:30:51,321
Speaker 2: you to I want to come in and you are

585
00:30:51,361 --> 00:30:54,121
Speaker 2: already all over that you already know when you need

586
00:30:54,161 --> 00:30:55,921
Speaker 2: to say no one, when you need to say yes.

587
00:30:56,241 --> 00:30:58,081
Speaker 2: I want you to know when you need to listen

588
00:30:58,121 --> 00:31:00,761
Speaker 2: to your body and you need to you know, be

589
00:31:01,841 --> 00:31:05,361
Speaker 2: asking for more demanding, more answers or more this like

590
00:31:05,521 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: because you know you and it's like they're wanting that

591
00:31:08,521 --> 00:31:09,921
Speaker 2: before they even get here, now.

592
00:31:09,841 --> 00:31:13,121
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's often because they wanted us to teach

593
00:31:13,201 --> 00:31:15,161
Speaker 4: them how to do that, and they're wanting us to

594
00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:18,561
Speaker 4: role model that for them. And you know, and a

595
00:31:18,601 --> 00:31:21,001
Speaker 4: lot of kids coming through at the moment have had

596
00:31:21,081 --> 00:31:25,641
Speaker 4: past lives where they've been very much suppressed and haven't

597
00:31:25,681 --> 00:31:30,001
Speaker 4: been able to say yes or say no, and so

598
00:31:30,081 --> 00:31:32,561
Speaker 4: there's a lot of that sort of wounding I guess

599
00:31:32,601 --> 00:31:35,801
Speaker 4: too that's coming through that they're wanting to bring balance

600
00:31:35,841 --> 00:31:37,081
Speaker 4: to or they're wanting.

601
00:31:36,801 --> 00:31:39,521
Speaker 1: To heal through and work with.

602
00:31:40,041 --> 00:31:45,761
Speaker 4: And so you know, in previous generations where the yeses

603
00:31:45,801 --> 00:31:49,001
Speaker 4: and nose weren't acknowledged or they weren't said in alignment

604
00:31:49,361 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: or authentically, then you know, that causes like you know,

605
00:31:53,561 --> 00:31:56,121
Speaker 4: all types of different traumas and patterns and beliefs and

606
00:31:56,121 --> 00:31:58,761
Speaker 4: all this sort of thing which a lot of babies

607
00:31:58,801 --> 00:32:02,041
Speaker 4: and children have experienced like we all have, I'm sure

608
00:32:02,081 --> 00:32:05,321
Speaker 4: in previous lives. But there's a real shift that's to

609
00:32:05,361 --> 00:32:08,001
Speaker 4: happen on the planet around that is that these children

610
00:32:08,081 --> 00:32:12,081
Speaker 4: like they they want to learn how I mean, they

611
00:32:12,081 --> 00:32:14,521
Speaker 4: can see it in spirit from their soul's perspective, but

612
00:32:14,561 --> 00:32:17,561
Speaker 4: when they come to earth, it's a very different kettle

613
00:32:17,601 --> 00:32:21,921
Speaker 4: of fish, right with with trying to navigate that as

614
00:32:22,001 --> 00:32:25,601
Speaker 4: little people and learning that if I don't want something,

615
00:32:25,641 --> 00:32:28,161
Speaker 4: I can say no, and if I do want something,

616
00:32:28,241 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: it's okay to ask for that or you know, and

617
00:32:30,481 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: then you bring in the when it's when it feels

618
00:32:34,281 --> 00:32:38,001
Speaker 4: aligned or authentic to give versus take and or give

619
00:32:38,121 --> 00:32:41,081
Speaker 4: versus receive, like all of these different things the yeses

620
00:32:41,121 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: and the nose that these children. So I was going

621
00:32:44,281 --> 00:32:46,441
Speaker 4: to say, like the word desperately, but that sounds really

622
00:32:46,481 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: strong that they're wanting to learn and bring more balance

623
00:32:49,561 --> 00:32:53,201
Speaker 4: to not just for themselves, but for all children and

624
00:32:53,521 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: all people really on the planet. Like I feel like

625
00:32:56,281 --> 00:32:59,921
Speaker 4: that's a big call, but there's a real shift around that.

626
00:33:00,121 --> 00:33:02,401
Speaker 4: But yeah, as you said earlier, it's like it's got

627
00:33:02,441 --> 00:33:05,081
Speaker 4: to start before they even get here, And like I

628
00:33:04,881 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: think their conception for many women and couples is a

629
00:33:11,081 --> 00:33:14,641
Speaker 4: really big lesson around that. You know, if your body

630
00:33:14,721 --> 00:33:17,481
Speaker 4: is saying I've just been through this IVF cycle and

631
00:33:17,521 --> 00:33:19,961
Speaker 4: it's been really hard and it was a failed cycle,

632
00:33:20,201 --> 00:33:22,761
Speaker 4: or it was initially a positive pregnancy and then we

633
00:33:22,921 --> 00:33:25,921
Speaker 4: lost the baby, you know, all of these things, you know,

634
00:33:26,081 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: tuning in after that, it's like, well, what does my

635
00:33:28,281 --> 00:33:30,921
Speaker 4: body want now? Because the mind is going to be

636
00:33:31,081 --> 00:33:33,121
Speaker 4: like I'm going to jump into the next cycle, like

637
00:33:33,161 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: when can I look in for the next round of

638
00:33:35,481 --> 00:33:38,681
Speaker 4: egg collection or whatever, whereas the body's like, hang on

639
00:33:38,721 --> 00:33:39,921
Speaker 4: a minute, like I need.

640
00:33:39,761 --> 00:33:44,641
Speaker 1: A breather here, I need some time to like some love, yeah,

641
00:33:44,761 --> 00:33:45,521
Speaker 1: some TLC.

642
00:33:45,681 --> 00:33:48,641
Speaker 4: I need to recover from that, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

643
00:33:48,921 --> 00:33:51,401
Speaker 4: and even things, you know, even if it's not IVF,

644
00:33:51,481 --> 00:33:55,201
Speaker 4: even if it's through a previous child, you know, coming

645
00:33:55,281 --> 00:33:56,961
Speaker 4: to earth. And then there's that urge to like, I

646
00:33:57,001 --> 00:33:59,921
Speaker 4: gotta try again, gotta try again, yeah, or you know,

647
00:34:00,001 --> 00:34:02,481
Speaker 4: whether it's through like any sort of pregnancy loss, there

648
00:34:02,481 --> 00:34:06,561
Speaker 4: can be that that in many ways, or that urge

649
00:34:06,601 --> 00:34:08,401
Speaker 4: to okay, we've got to try again, like as quickly

650
00:34:08,441 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: as possible. But the body is saying like I need

651
00:34:11,521 --> 00:34:14,081
Speaker 4: to rest. I need to rest, I need to recover,

652
00:34:14,841 --> 00:34:18,401
Speaker 4: I need to process this, I need to integrate this experience.

653
00:34:18,561 --> 00:34:19,281
Speaker 1: I need to.

654
00:34:20,121 --> 00:34:24,281
Speaker 4: Refill my bucket and recharge my battery, and then we

655
00:34:24,361 --> 00:34:28,121
Speaker 4: can go for another round, another try like another child,

656
00:34:28,201 --> 00:34:32,001
Speaker 4: like whatever it may be, but I'm feeling like and again,

657
00:34:32,161 --> 00:34:35,561
Speaker 4: like for you can imagine like as a child coming

658
00:34:35,601 --> 00:34:39,521
Speaker 4: into that as well. You know, I know which energy

659
00:34:39,561 --> 00:34:41,681
Speaker 4: I prefer to come into, even if it meant that

660
00:34:41,761 --> 00:34:43,721
Speaker 4: I needed to wait a few weeks or a few

661
00:34:43,761 --> 00:34:48,081
Speaker 4: months for that to happen. And that's where the shift

662
00:34:48,081 --> 00:34:51,041
Speaker 4: has really been for these children around like the timing

663
00:34:51,121 --> 00:34:55,201
Speaker 4: of things compared to like the energy of things. It's like, no, no,

664
00:34:55,361 --> 00:34:58,321
Speaker 4: you take time. And it's really hard when women come

665
00:34:58,361 --> 00:35:00,601
Speaker 4: to me and they've just had a failed IVF cycle

666
00:35:00,721 --> 00:35:03,921
Speaker 4: and you know, they're like, when can I try again?

667
00:35:04,641 --> 00:35:07,601
Speaker 4: And the may be saying don't try again right now,

668
00:35:07,921 --> 00:35:10,241
Speaker 4: you know, not ever ever, but like you know at

669
00:35:10,281 --> 00:35:13,081
Speaker 4: this time, and it's like the last thing that women

670
00:35:13,121 --> 00:35:15,161
Speaker 4: want to hear because they're trained to, oh, well that

671
00:35:15,201 --> 00:35:16,921
Speaker 4: didn't work, so now I've got to like we got

672
00:35:16,961 --> 00:35:18,841
Speaker 4: to do it again, or maybe we'll change clinics, or

673
00:35:18,841 --> 00:35:21,121
Speaker 4: maybe we'll do this protocol or this thing and all

674
00:35:21,161 --> 00:35:23,841
Speaker 4: of that. Nothing wrong with that, but it's like what

675
00:35:23,881 --> 00:35:26,801
Speaker 4: does the body need? And like nine times out of

676
00:35:26,921 --> 00:35:30,361
Speaker 4: ten it's rest. But it's really hard, I think generally

677
00:35:30,401 --> 00:35:33,321
Speaker 4: as women to be able to do that, Like do

678
00:35:33,361 --> 00:35:35,681
Speaker 4: we really know how to rest? Like for me, I've

679
00:35:35,761 --> 00:35:39,361
Speaker 4: learned recently, it's like I can rest on the couch

680
00:35:39,801 --> 00:35:43,201
Speaker 4: on Instagram or on Netflix, but my body's saying to me,

681
00:35:43,441 --> 00:35:45,641
Speaker 4: like no input, no output.

682
00:35:45,921 --> 00:35:47,681
Speaker 1: That's like my definition of rest.

683
00:35:47,881 --> 00:35:50,241
Speaker 4: There needs to be nothing coming at me and I.

684
00:35:50,241 --> 00:35:52,281
Speaker 1: Need to be not giving anything out.

685
00:35:52,481 --> 00:35:57,081
Speaker 4: And like that is what these children mean when they're

686
00:35:57,121 --> 00:36:00,721
Speaker 4: saying take a breath, take a breather. Is not replacing

687
00:36:00,721 --> 00:36:03,801
Speaker 4: that with something else. It's like no, actually stop, like

688
00:36:04,001 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: literally stop or pause if you know, some people don't

689
00:36:07,521 --> 00:36:10,081
Speaker 4: like the words stop, but it's like pause, so like

690
00:36:10,161 --> 00:36:14,241
Speaker 4: take a breather and allow this recovery that is so

691
00:36:14,441 --> 00:36:17,281
Speaker 4: needed at this time. Like just look at the world

692
00:36:17,281 --> 00:36:20,401
Speaker 4: at the moment, Like, you know, even if you're not

693
00:36:20,481 --> 00:36:22,601
Speaker 4: trying to conceive or bring a child to earth, like,

694
00:36:22,641 --> 00:36:25,881
Speaker 4: it's still so much that we're trying to deal with

695
00:36:25,921 --> 00:36:29,921
Speaker 4: and grapple with as humans, let alone trying to bring

696
00:36:30,001 --> 00:36:33,281
Speaker 4: another child to Earth as well. It's like, can you know,

697
00:36:33,401 --> 00:36:37,001
Speaker 4: can we plan for this over you know, a period

698
00:36:37,041 --> 00:36:39,681
Speaker 4: of months rather than oh, I've got to get pregnant

699
00:36:39,681 --> 00:36:41,441
Speaker 4: by Christmas or I've got to get pregnant in the

700
00:36:41,441 --> 00:36:44,361
Speaker 4: next cycle or these sorts of things, which is just

701
00:36:44,561 --> 00:36:49,201
Speaker 4: so much pressure and the pressure is unnecessary because it's

702
00:36:49,281 --> 00:36:51,801
Speaker 4: not coming from these children, who are the ones who

703
00:36:51,801 --> 00:36:55,561
Speaker 4: are actually taking the leap. They're the ones that are coming.

704
00:36:56,001 --> 00:36:57,961
Speaker 2: And the other thing I was just thinking as well,

705
00:36:58,161 --> 00:37:01,121
Speaker 2: is like, because they come from such a place, like

706
00:37:01,161 --> 00:37:04,761
Speaker 2: they love their parents so so so much. Imagine what

707
00:37:04,881 --> 00:37:10,321
Speaker 2: you someone you love so much go through something that

708
00:37:10,641 --> 00:37:14,681
Speaker 2: hard that like or like being unwell or going through

709
00:37:14,721 --> 00:37:19,241
Speaker 2: something physically really difficult and emotionally really difficult, And like

710
00:37:19,481 --> 00:37:22,161
Speaker 2: if you were watching that, you'd be going you need

711
00:37:22,201 --> 00:37:25,081
Speaker 2: to rest now. That was a lot you know, you

712
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:27,881
Speaker 2: need to like really look after yourself now. And I

713
00:37:27,921 --> 00:37:31,201
Speaker 2: feel like that's a lot of the energy from it too. Absolutely,

714
00:37:31,441 --> 00:37:35,081
Speaker 2: it's just like okay, no, like honestly, I really like

715
00:37:35,241 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: you need that, and you need that because I love you,

716
00:37:37,521 --> 00:37:40,081
Speaker 2: and like it's for your health and like we know

717
00:37:40,201 --> 00:37:42,121
Speaker 2: this all the time, right, We've heard the quote where

718
00:37:42,161 --> 00:37:44,841
Speaker 2: it's like if you don't you know, if you don't

719
00:37:44,881 --> 00:37:47,721
Speaker 2: stop now, you'll be stopping for a lot longer, and

720
00:37:48,361 --> 00:37:50,201
Speaker 2: you know, and you'll be forced to do it, or

721
00:37:50,321 --> 00:37:52,481
Speaker 2: like you know, if you don't just rest now, the

722
00:37:52,561 --> 00:37:55,041
Speaker 2: universe will break your fucking ankles and you'll be unable

723
00:37:55,081 --> 00:37:58,001
Speaker 2: to you know, walk for twelve weeks exactly.

724
00:37:58,361 --> 00:37:59,761
Speaker 1: Then you'll get the message and you.

725
00:37:59,721 --> 00:38:01,841
Speaker 2: Get the message and it's like it feels like that's

726
00:38:01,881 --> 00:38:06,601
Speaker 2: almost the energy. It's like, yeah, honestly, just take month rest,

727
00:38:06,881 --> 00:38:10,881
Speaker 2: look after yourself, just like allow yourself to be your focus,

728
00:38:11,041 --> 00:38:13,801
Speaker 2: your health to be your focus, and then it's going

729
00:38:13,841 --> 00:38:15,841
Speaker 2: to be so much nicer for both of us. And

730
00:38:15,921 --> 00:38:17,961
Speaker 2: it's coming from a place of like I love you

731
00:38:18,001 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: and I care about you.

732
00:38:19,321 --> 00:38:21,601
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't want to come to you because

733
00:38:21,601 --> 00:38:25,241
Speaker 4: that's just going to add another layer of challenge and

734
00:38:25,401 --> 00:38:29,121
Speaker 4: you know, emotionally and physically. So it's like, you know, again,

735
00:38:29,161 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: if you're watching a friend or someone you really love

736
00:38:33,561 --> 00:38:35,841
Speaker 4: really struggling, the last thing you want to do is

737
00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:38,281
Speaker 4: then go and impose on them or go and like

738
00:38:38,641 --> 00:38:40,521
Speaker 4: go and stay with them for nine months.

739
00:38:40,721 --> 00:38:40,961
Speaker 1: You know.

740
00:38:41,321 --> 00:38:44,081
Speaker 4: It's like it's like, I, you know, I'm not going

741
00:38:44,161 --> 00:38:46,001
Speaker 4: to do that to you. I don't want to do

742
00:38:46,081 --> 00:38:46,841
Speaker 4: that to you.

743
00:38:46,721 --> 00:38:52,761
Speaker 1: You know, I've just gone through hell. You're like, yes, exactly, and.

744
00:38:52,641 --> 00:38:56,321
Speaker 2: I'm giving you HG. Yeah, that's gonna be fine. I

745
00:38:56,321 --> 00:39:02,681
Speaker 2: can't wait. I we are absolutely going to have to

746
00:39:02,721 --> 00:39:04,841
Speaker 2: do another episode and I just should have known that

747
00:39:04,841 --> 00:39:07,521
Speaker 2: there's going to happen. So we're going to wrap it

748
00:39:07,601 --> 00:39:11,081
Speaker 2: up there, but just know that, just give it a

749
00:39:11,121 --> 00:39:14,121
Speaker 2: few days. We'll be back for the rest of this chat.

750
00:39:14,201 --> 00:39:16,281
Speaker 2: We've got I've got a whole heap of questions that

751
00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:18,361
Speaker 2: we're just going to get straight into it. It's just

752
00:39:18,401 --> 00:39:20,161
Speaker 2: going to be hard and dry. We're just going to

753
00:39:20,201 --> 00:39:22,001
Speaker 2: be like, hey, we're here, and then it'll be just

754
00:39:22,121 --> 00:39:26,281
Speaker 2: like no lube in questions, Q and A. So thank

755
00:39:26,321 --> 00:39:29,321
Speaker 2: you so much guys for listening to this first part

756
00:39:29,481 --> 00:39:33,481
Speaker 2: of our Spirit Baby episode with the beautiful Lauren. Listen

757
00:39:33,561 --> 00:39:35,521
Speaker 2: up in a few days for the next part and

758
00:39:35,561 --> 00:39:36,401
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon.

759
00:39:36,921 --> 00:39:37,601
Speaker 1: Thanks guys.

760
00:39:37,681 --> 00:39:38,961
Speaker 2: Bye,