1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Good Ay, thanks so much for listening. I'm glad you're here. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Did you hear the episode with Tenny tiny Stev's on Wednesday? 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: I was so wonderful to speak to those two ladies, 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: and it really got me thinking about music and learning 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: my own experience, and I guess the experience that I'm 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: trying to have with Georgia and Wolfgang. I'm particularly interested 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: in how memory works, mainly because I can recall the 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: precise tone of voice of a movie trailer I saw 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: once forty years ago that I can't remember what Audrey 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: asked me to do so that dinner can get on 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: when I get home before her, And I'm interested in 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: how music can affect that recall. I'm also a person 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: who has sung narrated my entire life. Early on, I 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: enjoyed musicals, you know, being in them. But I kind 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: of figured out when I was a little kid. I 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: could see all these people on the TV on the weekends. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: They all seem to know the songs and all the 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: dance moves, and I was never going to do that. 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: It was never going to come my way unless I sang, narrated, 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: and choreographed my life. So I still to this day 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: sing narrate what I'm doing on the bicycle home from 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Jim Today. I'm on my bike and this outy is 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: next to me. Watch up for the pothole. There's a 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: dog crossing the road with an owner who's on her phone. 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: You should look up there. Here, I am ding ding yep, 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: that's what I do. You will hear me coming down 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: the road like that when it comes to the kids 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: singing the Wolfgang. It's one of the great joys that 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: I have and it really works in a number of levels, 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: working with connecting with him, connecting on new ideas particularly, 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: and I will get to that in a moment because 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: it does help getting in to remember things. But I 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: do need to play some ads because what I want 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: to talk about, So I'll be right back after the break. Gooda, 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: thanks for listening to the show is better than yesterday, 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: helping you make today better than yesterday. Since twenty thirteen. 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: My name's Osha Ginsburg. I'm a podcast I'm a best 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: selling author. I'm a husband, a dad, a step dad. 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm someone who isn't satisfied with the agony of a 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: foam roller. So I've just been going a cappella with 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: a piece of PVC pipe straighted in my TfL just mainlining. 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: That's the sound you heard earlier that you thought was 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: like an animal dying. It was me at the end 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: of my workout today. I'm glad you're here. If you 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: want to get in touch and listen to every episode 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: we've ever made, you can find at Oshaginsburg dot com 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: or put it in the show notes. On Wednesday, Teenny 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: Tiny Stevie's were here. They're fantastic. They are a kids 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: band and ARIA Award winning kids band, and that conversation 50 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: got me thinking a lot about music and kids and 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: their development. Audrey and I had a parent teacher today 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: at daycare. I remember the first time I went. It's 53 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: like he was two and we had parent teacher. Well, 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: I guess you know. Once we sat down and did it, 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I understand why. And we had 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: that again today. We had parent teacher because he's a 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: less than a year out from starting big school and 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: we're needing to kind of make sure he's at the 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: right level so other things don't get in the way. 60 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: And so he sat there with his teacher and I 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: was remembering a lot about what we spoke about on Wednesday, 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: and that music can help us remember things. I mean, 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: I still use music to remember things. We all know 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: the alphabet because of a song. I don't know about you, 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: but I sing when I want to find out how 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: many days are in each month. I remember the song. 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I remember the phone number for a Brisbane pizza shop 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: which hasn't cooked a meat lover since nineteen ninety two. 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: And I remember all of those things because they were 70 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: set to music. And it's really interesting as to why 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: that is the case, because I've done a lot of 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: work in memory and thinking about that and taught myself 73 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: how to get around the different ways that my brain works, 74 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: and learning about memory is one of those things. And 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: then I can bring techniques into my life to help 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: me navigate around the other bits that my brain does. 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: And it's, yeah, it's really interesting. So if it was 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: just raw data, seven or eight digits of a phone number, like, 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: who's going to remember that? Okay, it's hard to recall 80 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: seven or eight digits if you've heard it once and 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: then trying to remember it again. I can't remember the 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: text that my bank sends me when I'm trying to 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: pay someone, all right, If it weren't for that little 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: copy paste thing that my phone does. Nobody that works, 85 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: you whatever, get paid. Yet, if we add just one 86 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: more element to that information, those six or seven digits 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: a melody, then it's no longer just the data. It's 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: the data plus a melody. And what it does that 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: changes the way that the information encodes into our brain. 90 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: It makes that encoding a lot stronger. That encoding and 91 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: therefore our ability to recall it gets better if we 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: add more senses to get engaged when we do initially 93 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: get exposed to this information. If you add an action 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: to the information and the melody, it sticks even more. 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: You never forget the hokey pokey, do you no? Because 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: there was an emotion, there was a song. You didn't 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: do it by yourself. There's probably more than four people 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: because you can't really make a circle, but you never 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: forget it. And if there's a motion involved, well that's 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the gold standard because that is as many senses as 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: you can get shoved in there. This was why there's 102 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: so many key changes in a West Life song. Or 103 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: think about that Whitney Houston track, the one from the Bodyguard. 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: There's a massive key change right after this naan drum 105 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: and the lyric goes, and I, what's the next line? 106 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: You're never gonna forget it? You know it's straight away. 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: You can't ever forget it because there's emotion going on, 108 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: there's that key change, there's her voice, there's a lot 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: of music. So I sing around the house a lot. 110 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: It does drive my family, my wife and my stepdaughter 111 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: a bit nuts. Georgia saw me pick up the ukulele 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: the other day and she had her back to me. 113 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: She just heard me pick it up. She went, no, please, no. 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: It was pretty funny, funny step to all of stuff. 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: But it's super fun and quite useful. I found when 116 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: it comes to getting Wolfgang to remember things. I will 117 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: write a very quick, very silly song and get him 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: to sing it with me, and he's able to remember 119 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: stuff really, really well. For example, Audrey had a couple, 120 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: you know while back Wolfe was still pretty little. She 121 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: had a thin cut out over skin and she couldn't 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: pick up Wolfe you for a couple of days. And 123 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: Wolfy's still coming into the bed at night, but he's 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: always going around mom's side. I don't get hurt by it. 125 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: So I wanted to help him remember to come around 126 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: my side. So I sang a little song to him, 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: and I can't remember the melody, but it wentn't something 128 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: along If you want to come to the big bed 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: at night, make sure you climb in on Dad's side, 130 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I put a jazz hands with it, 131 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: and I would get him to do the last line, 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: If you want to come to the big bed at night, 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: make sure you climb in, and I'd point at him 134 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: and he'd go o Dad's side, and then you know, 135 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: we met a call and response and he did do 136 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the last line and it was pretty fun. And what 137 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: do you know, that night he came into the bed 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: on my side. I don't think he did the jazz 139 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: hands at two in the morning, but it was fun. 140 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: It's also really interesting watching Wolf use music as an 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: emotional regulation, which is something I've always done. But he 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: started to ask for music, which kind of sounds like 143 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: he feels, which I'll tell you about in a sec. 144 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 1: So I'm there to take another break back in a moment. 145 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show. Thank you for listening 146 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: to the ads that does support us here at the show. 147 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: This is my only single solidary source of income right now, 148 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: so thank you for helping me feed my family. I 149 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: was just talking about Wolfe using music that sounds like 150 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: he feels, which is really interesting. We ride a bicycle 151 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: to school most days. It's a cargo bike. He sits 152 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: on the back and I put a Bluetooth speaker in 153 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: the cup holder, which is pretty useful. We're just a 154 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: little over. One pop song was length on a bicycle 155 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: from where he goes to school. And now sometimes we 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: listen to the bus stop by the Fat Back Band, 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: which is a jam if you haven't heard in a while, 158 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: because we pass a bunch of bus stops on the 159 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: way and so we pointed a bus stop the Sometimes 160 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: we sing Uptown Funk and he does the hot Damp 161 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I go too hot and he does the hot Damn. 162 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Everyone does that worth their kids, if you have kids. 163 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: It's really fun. And at his daycare they do dancing 164 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: every day, which is really fun. But he's now one 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: of the influence of other people's musical tastes. And you know, 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the same way he comes home telling me about Mario 167 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: and Luigi and he's never seen Mario brothers. He's coming 168 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: home with different songs. So we're riding to daycare, you know, 169 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: we're riding up the hill and he says, Dad plays 170 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: sun China Moonlight. What what song is that? Mate plays 171 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: sun China Moonlight. Oh, you're a have to blame it 172 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: on the boogie and then on Facebook the moral quandary. 173 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: Can I play a four year old Michael Jackson song? 174 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: You know terrible people make, It's still a great jam. Okay, buddy, 175 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: here we go and it's really good. He came home 176 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: the other day he said, Dad, play baby bab Ah. 177 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Pardon what play Baby beaber Ah? Oh my goodness me. 178 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: One of his teachers has been playing him justin Bieber's 179 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: Baby and so a song that I had previously assumed 180 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: when I was in the music industry, when I was 181 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: working in pop radio, that was like a massive hit. 182 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't get this. And I knew 183 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: straight away that anytime I feel that, then that is 184 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: another cleaving entwaying of the space time continuum as far 185 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: as my relevance to the audience. And if that is 186 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: a massive hit, then I shouldn't be doing this job 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: because I don't get it. But I was able to 188 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: re approach this song in a different way because it's 189 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: a mad pop song and he knows all the words 190 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: and he does the ludicrous rap and it's wild, but 191 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: it's really fun. But one thing is really interesting. When 192 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: he's in the car with me, sometimes when he's in 193 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: a particular space, he asks me for the dragon song. Now, 194 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Draggon song is a song by a Perth band called 195 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Silent Night k and Ight, and on the cover of 196 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: the album is a dragon. It's very gallopy kind of 197 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: metal and I love it. And when Wolf he sings 198 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: along to this song, he holds the invisible goblet in 199 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: his hands when he hits the big notes, can't go 200 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: around camarad like he does all that. Now, I'm someone 201 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: who truly appreciates metal. And to know that my boy 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: Wolfgang like songs about dragons and things that are aflame, 203 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: that brings my heart so much joy. I use metal. 204 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I use heavy metal myself. When I'm writing, I write 205 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot and I'm running some of the a talk 206 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: or sometimes I write these, and you know, I write heaps, 207 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: and when I do, I listen to the most furious music. 208 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: Audrey will come in here. I've got monitors now in 209 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: the room, so I can actually hear without the marine headphones, 210 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: which is fun and Audrey comes, he goes, what the 211 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: fuck are you listening to? And I'm listening as like, 212 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: this is a particular band called Conan, which are just nuts, 213 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: like full doom metal. There's another band called Sun and 214 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: an ossie band called witch Skull. Immediately you're like, what 215 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: the fuck is this? I think one of the Coden 216 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: songs in Vinced the Bilisord it's like nine minutes long. 217 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: When I listen to that stuff, I am crystal clean, 218 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: absolutely pure, calm focused because it says so much of 219 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: it that it keeps all the other bits of my 220 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: brain busy. And maybe that's why Wolfe is asking for 221 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: it when he's in those headspaces. Anyway, it's lovely to 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: know that he's into it. I've been really lucky, I 223 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: know him, very lucky, because music does affect me in 224 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: ways that I have seen other people somehow not get affected. 225 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: And it took me a while to understand that on 226 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: everybody hears music like I do. In the same way 227 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: that a painter can see forty seven colors of red 228 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: on a ferrari. I just see one, but they can 229 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: see all the different shades and highlights and things. I 230 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: got lucky, all right, because of that, I get goosebumps 231 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: on a key change. I know that everybody doesn't have that, 232 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: but I do, even on a Celindion song. The motherfucker Like, 233 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm just like, all right, i've been coerced here. You're 234 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: hijacking my body's reactions. But it's pretty good. But I 235 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: see it in Georgia. He dances everywhere, and I see 236 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: it in Wolfgang, and I saw it just the other day. 237 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: We've started him on piano class for you know, I 238 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want him to be the next whatever keybill player, 239 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: but as I talked about on Wednesday's show, just any 240 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: musical education is really important for helping our kid's brain develop. 241 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: So we're sitting there in a piano class and it's 242 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: just him and the teacher. I'm in there with them 243 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: because he's four, and when kids are four, you sit 244 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: in there with them because you do need to have 245 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: to wrangle them a bit to stay sitting down. And 246 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like a fourth or fifth lesson 247 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: or something, and the music teacher, she's fantastic. She starts 248 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: doing a lesson about timing all right, counting the beats 249 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,239 Speaker 1: in the bar, and she was playing a very distinctive 250 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: four to four rhythm, and wolf he hears the rhythm 251 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: and he leaps out of the piano stoor and just 252 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: starts dancing on the rug between me on the couch 253 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: behind them and the piano. And I'm thinking, oh fuck, 254 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna get yelled at whither. He's gonna look at 255 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: me and go, oh, come on, get back in the chair. 256 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: You're here to play piano nuts dance. She doesn't even blink, 257 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: She just adapts straight away and she goes, excellent, you 258 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: want to dance. Here's the game. I will keep counting 259 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: the beats of the bar one, two, three, four, and 260 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to stop on the next beat of the 261 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: bar every time, and you need to freeze. So essentially, 262 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: she's playing the same game they play at the opening 263 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: themes of the Bluey TV show, where she stops on 264 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: the one, and the next bar, she stops on the two, 265 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: and the next bar she stops on the three. And 266 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: I jumped up with him, and then he and I 267 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: are dancing in the piano lesson room, and he was 268 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: mad for it. I do love very much that he's 269 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: got that in him, and I can't wait to take 270 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: him to his first orchestra in the school holidays. But 271 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: I am probably going to have to write a song 272 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: to help him learn this one other thing. He's got 273 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: a bee allergy, all right, not the kind that you 274 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: think anything beginning with the letter B, bath, breakfast, bed, 275 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: brushing teeth. If you mention it, he will suddenly want 276 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: to go and do everything. But and so I might 277 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: have to write a song about that, just to help 278 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: him understand that you're doing that thing, mate, and it's bedtime. 279 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: We got to go. There's no more, just one more 280 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: thing in winds Now. I'll keep you posted as to 281 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: what that song turns out like. But I can't be 282 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: alone here. I can't. I'm sure other people sing narrate 283 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: their lives, and if you don't, you should try it, 284 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: because maybe I have to do a whole other show 285 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: about this. But if you're feeling in a shit, like 286 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: if something's really bad and you're being overwhelmed with some 287 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of wild catastrophization or whatever, like I have danced 288 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: my way out of a funk more than once. And 289 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: it's that multisensory processing, that alignment of so many systems 290 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: of your muscles, of your site. So don't fall over 291 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: of your balance of your aud auditory system. Like everything, 292 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: it's that multisensory processing and plus with the emotion of 293 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: remembering when you first heard the song, because music's a 294 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: time machine that can get you out of a funk, 295 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: especially if you're listening to Saint George Clinton. But that's 296 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: a that's a whole other podcast down one. Thank you 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: so much for listening. I hope you enjoy singing today. 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