Speaker 1: Why On Sky News, This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening and tonight We're hours away from Joe Biden
Speaker 2: addressing the world for the first time since quitting the
Speaker 2: presidential race. But today all eyes were on Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: and the question many are asking, can she beat Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: And what would she be like as Madam President. The
Speaker 2: media and political elite who lied about Biden's mental decline
Speaker 2: are now presenting Kamala Harris as the messiah. The deliberate
Speaker 2: cover up of Biden's cognitive decline has now been clearly exposed.
Speaker 2: While voters were told he was sharp as attack and
Speaker 2: the clips were all deep fakes, Nancy Pelosi stopped his
Speaker 2: contact with Democratic caucus, and his own team limited his
Speaker 2: FaceTime with cabinet secretaries. Democrats were, in fact, highly concerned
Speaker 2: about his ability to fulfill basic tasks like reading teleprompters.
Speaker 2: Yet here's what voters were told.
Speaker 3: President Biden, who I've been around numerous times just in
Speaker 3: this last year, is sharp.
Speaker 1: He's focused, He's bright.
Speaker 4: He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.
Speaker 2: This is a man who is sharp, who is on
Speaker 2: top of his game, who knows what's going on.
Speaker 4: He's smart, He's on his game.
Speaker 2: This same group who lied about Joe Biden are now
Speaker 2: throwing their support behind Kamala Harris. They're papering over her
Speaker 2: policy failures and history of incompetence as vice president and
Speaker 2: embracing her with excitement. That is fighting Kamala Harris.
Speaker 5: She is coming out guns blazing.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: People have been thirsting for this kind of fell in
Speaker 1: love with him.
Speaker 3: I thought she was smart, engaging, She's funny, feisty, twickling
Speaker 3: your put you in the guard, I mean.
Speaker 1: Everything you come right. I just thought it was a great,
Speaker 1: great opening act.
Speaker 3: The words she was speaking, they felt organic and genuine.
Speaker 2: But there is cause for concern already. As the presumptive nominee,
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris looks set to snub Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Speaker 2: Netanyahu's addressed to Congress, and this is a worrying sign
Speaker 2: for Israel should she become president. The Wall Street Jonah
Speaker 2: reports that the snub is unmistakable and that it's fueling
Speaker 2: rumors of a rift between her and Biden's approach to
Speaker 2: the Middle East. Columnist Walter Russea Meade writes that rightly
Speaker 2: or wrongly, key Arab leaders may interpret her snub of
Speaker 2: Netta Yahoo as evidence that Harris sympathizes with the opponents
Speaker 2: of a Saudi treaty and that her Middle East policy
Speaker 2: will differ significantly from Biden's. He says that, in turn,
Speaker 2: would make it harder for Biden negotiators to get to
Speaker 2: yes either about a Gaza ceasefire or on the final
Speaker 2: details of the Saudi deal. It may also encourage the Iranians,
Speaker 2: sensing weakness and division within the administration, to turn up
Speaker 2: the heat on Biden, increasing the chance of a shooting.
Speaker 4: War in the Gulf.
Speaker 2: And Walter Russell Mead says that Kamala Harris is in
Speaker 2: the big leagues now and she needs to get this right.
Speaker 6: He says, the.
Speaker 2: World will be watching. But surely no one serious has
Speaker 2: any confidence that Kamala Harris could hope to land a
Speaker 2: successful Middle East foreign policy position when she couldn't even
Speaker 2: get a handle on the Southern border, when national security
Speaker 2: officials have already had to intervene to tone down critical
Speaker 2: remarks about Israel that she planned to make in a
Speaker 2: major speech. And that's according to an NBC News report.
Speaker 2: When less than a month after October seven, she called
Speaker 2: for a national strategy not on anti Semitism, but on Islamophobia.
Speaker 7: I am proud to announce the Biden Harris administration will
Speaker 7: develop our nation's first national strategy to counter Islamophobia.
Speaker 2: As I said less than a month after October seven,
Speaker 2: and despite the fact there was an antisemitism crisis raging unchecked,
Speaker 2: It's highly doubtful Kamala Harris has the ability, skills, or
Speaker 2: expertise to negotiate Middle East policy, and tonight on my show,
Speaker 2: I've asked Mike Pompeo's chief advisor when he was Secretary
Speaker 2: of State to come on live to speak about this. Already,
Speaker 2: Kamala has been thoroughly exposed for her failures while in
Speaker 2: the VP job. Her role was to fix the immigration crisis,
Speaker 2: yet under her watch, more than eight million illegals crossed
Speaker 2: the border, and thanks to her, the b crisis has
Speaker 2: become one of the top reasons that voters are supporting Trump.
Speaker 2: For this and other reasons, she was considered a liability.
Speaker 2: The media tore her to pieces, as exemplified by this
Speaker 2: famous interview.
Speaker 8: Do you have any plans to visit the border at
Speaker 8: some point?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: We are going to the border. We've been to the border.
Speaker 7: So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border.
Speaker 7: We've been to the border. We've been to the border.
Speaker 7: You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been.
Speaker 4: To Europe.
Speaker 2: Or even Nancy Pelosi hasn't been able to defend Kamala's
Speaker 2: failings as VP.
Speaker 1: Do you think she.
Speaker 4: Is the best running met though she's the vice president
Speaker 4: of the United States. People say to me, why isn't
Speaker 4: she doing.
Speaker 9: This or that?
Speaker 1: I said, because she's the vice president. That's the job
Speaker 1: of description.
Speaker 8: You don't do that much.
Speaker 2: But the same left media that lied about Biden's cognitive
Speaker 2: decline are now trying to brush past Kamala's flaws, even
Speaker 2: though they reported on them in the past. I know,
Speaker 2: overnight she's become immedia darling and they're redefining her. But
Speaker 2: does anyone really buy it?
Speaker 4: But she is ready to be the president.
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is unleashed.
Speaker 1: She's just brilliant.
Speaker 2: She's just the energy that's coming off of her is
Speaker 2: the energy that's coming off of the American people.
Speaker 4: Just in the last forty eight hours, she's been more
Speaker 4: forward leaning just on the issue of abortion, frankly than
Speaker 4: President Biden had been over the last four months, and
Speaker 4: then you throw in she's more comfortable at going after
Speaker 4: the convictions and Trump she became.
Speaker 5: The presumptive nominee in forty eight hours.
Speaker 10: To put that in perspective, it's been more than three
Speaker 10: years and we still don't have a new James Bond.
Speaker 2: Fickle celebrities who just a minute ago were standing by
Speaker 2: Biden are now endorsing Kamala, and she's raised an impressive
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars since Sunday. At her first campaign
Speaker 2: event today, she launched a scathing attack on Trump.
Speaker 11: I took on perpetrators of all kinds, Predators who abused women,
Speaker 11: fraudsters who ripped off consumers, cheaters who broke the rules.
Speaker 7: For their own gain. So hear me when I say
Speaker 7: I know Donald Trump's tape.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, the man who the entire Democratic Party now
Speaker 2: acknowledge is not fit to serve another four years as
Speaker 2: president is still apparently equipped to be the leader of
Speaker 2: the free world for another six months. It's an absurd situation.
Speaker 2: As Piers Mulgan pointed out today, I just.
Speaker 8: Find it completely incomprehensible that the president of the United
Speaker 8: States announces on social media not to the American people
Speaker 8: because eighty percent of people are not on social media.
Speaker 1: But he just.
Speaker 8: Announced it suddenly. Oh by the way, I'm not physically
Speaker 8: capable of continuing the next four months of this presidential race.
Speaker 8: But the good news is I am going to carry
Speaker 8: on running the country and be the leader of the
Speaker 8: free world, even though I can barely construct a sentence
Speaker 8: or stay on my two feet without falling over. It
Speaker 8: is a completely fascical situation.
Speaker 2: Well, just who led the way pretending Biden was on
Speaker 2: top of his game, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 7: Of course, we have a very bold and vibrant president
Speaker 7: in Joe Biden, And in Joe Biden, we have a
Speaker 7: president who is probably one of the boldest and strongest
Speaker 7: American presidents we have had in his response to the
Speaker 7: needs of the American people. But he is an extraordinary leader.
Speaker 7: And I wish that people could see what I see,
Speaker 7: because there's only one person who's this behind that resolute death.
Speaker 2: But don't expect the cheerleading journalists to grill her on
Speaker 2: why she repeatedly lied about Biden's cognitive ability or examine
Speaker 2: her policy positions, because just like we saw with the Hunter,
Speaker 2: Biden laptop story, which was dismissed as Russian disinformation. Partisan
Speaker 2: politics has sadly corrupted journalism in America. Even when we
Speaker 2: could all see with our own eyes that Biden was
Speaker 2: incoherent and rambling, the White House insisted the vision with
Speaker 2: deep fakes, and journalists didn't lift a finger to investigate
Speaker 2: ideological narratives that took preference over facts. Retrospective expose is
Speaker 2: now being written too little, too late, and none of
Speaker 2: this serves democracy or Also coming up on the show tonight,
Speaker 2: what would a Kamala Harris presidency look like? Former Secretary
Speaker 2: of State at Mike Pompeio's top advisor would join me
Speaker 2: live to discuss. Also on the show, Albanesi's major backflip
Speaker 2: following our exclusive story that AZO chief Mike Burgess had
Speaker 2: been dumped from the National Security Committee of Cabinet. And
Speaker 2: we'll have breaking news tonight from a leading economist who
Speaker 2: is now predicting up to three rate hikes. This on
Speaker 2: top of the news we're officially in a baby recession. Well,
Speaker 2: let's now bring in our Wednesday Panel labor legend Graham
Speaker 2: Richardson and former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger welcome
Speaker 2: it to you both. I want to start by getting
Speaker 2: your reaction to this deception by the White House, Democrats
Speaker 2: in the media over Biden's mental state. It's been a
Speaker 2: big issue over the past week. Michael Kroger, what do
Speaker 2: you think about this protection racket over Biden's mental ability?
Speaker 10: Well, it's pretty disgusting, and you know it's going to
Speaker 10: plague her for the next four months because everyone she said,
Speaker 10: I wish people could see what I see. Well, we
Speaker 10: did see it, Kamala, We saw it with our own eyes,
Speaker 10: and it was terrible. It was an infirmed president capable
Speaker 10: of putting a sentence together, who clearly had early stage dementia,
Speaker 10: and everyone the Democratic Party then realized that or were
Speaker 10: prepared to be honest about it. After the debate, they
Speaker 10: got rid of him. But it'll bite her. And as
Speaker 10: for all the other things she's talking about in the
Speaker 10: money she's raised, it's relief, it's not excitement. People in
Speaker 10: America are just relieved that there's somebody who could put
Speaker 10: a sentence together who's running as their candidate. And I
Speaker 10: think this will fade over the next few months as
Speaker 10: people realize that she's not up for the job. She
Speaker 10: doesn't have a good record politically, She's awoke, left wing
Speaker 10: liberal from prosecutor from effectively from San Francisco, which is
Speaker 10: a basket case, and I think ultimately her campaign will fade.
Speaker 2: Do you think, though, Richo, that she does present now
Speaker 2: a credible alternative to Trump? I mean, there would have
Speaker 2: been a section of voters who don't like Trump is
Speaker 2: very divisive, but they would have had concerns about voting
Speaker 2: for Biden, given he was clearly incoherent much of the time,
Speaker 2: forgot his trade of thought on many occasions. So do
Speaker 2: you think that Kamala Harris might win support from those
Speaker 2: undecided voters or just anti Trump voters?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she can. I mean, the way I
Speaker 5: look at it, you've had a pretty awful choice between
Speaker 5: Biden and Trump, and now you've got a slightly less
Speaker 5: awful choice between Harris and Trump. So I think Harris
Speaker 5: is in improvement. My God, wasn't that needed because things
Speaker 5: were looking pretty green for the Democrats.
Speaker 2: Well, we've been saying for such a long time. Now
Speaker 2: you know, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, are they really
Speaker 2: the best options in the entire of the United States?
Speaker 2: And it is in many ways a pity that the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party didn't have a proper process that Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: who many say it was a diversity pick in the
Speaker 2: first place, has automatically it looks like she will get
Speaker 2: the nomination and there was no democratic process. Michael Kroger,
Speaker 2: do you think it's a pity that that didn't happen,
Speaker 2: that there might have been better people who have more skills,
Speaker 2: who have more strength, have a foreign policy expertise.
Speaker 10: There are clearly much better coundiates with than the Democratic
Speaker 10: Party than her. You wouldn't have her in the first
Speaker 10: twenty And don't forget when she ran in for the
Speaker 10: nomination in twenty twenty. That is, in twenty nineteen, when
Speaker 10: she ran for the Democratic nomination, she withdrew before the
Speaker 10: first primary because she had a support of about four
Speaker 10: percent of the Democratic Party. Those people that knew her
Speaker 10: best five years ago gave four percent of the vote
Speaker 10: and she had to withdraw. Her campaign was a disaster.
Speaker 10: She's clearly she was a diversity pick. She's been given
Speaker 10: one big job which everyone knows, which has been a
Speaker 10: total disaster. That's why I think she'll fade once you
Speaker 10: get to policy substance, she will fade. So, yes, there
Speaker 10: were a lot better candidates, the governor of Michigan, the
Speaker 10: governor of Pennsylvania, you know, Michelle Obama, et cetera, et cetera, said,
Speaker 10: the government of California much more qualified candidates. But as
Speaker 10: vice president and black woman, how was the Democratic Party
Speaker 10: ever going to go past her?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 10: I don't you know, I said last week, I thought
Speaker 10: she was ninety percent chance of getting the job. So
Speaker 10: they couldn't go past. So they're stuck with her. And
Speaker 10: you know, as I said, it's not a joy and enthusiasm,
Speaker 10: it's relief that's causing this upswing for at the minute.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Joe Biden will speak for the first
Speaker 2: time eight pm Wednesday in the US local time, which
Speaker 2: is about ten am tomorrow our time. Rich O, what
Speaker 2: reason do you think he's going to give to the
Speaker 2: world really for stepping aside? And do you think there's
Speaker 2: any chance that he'll resign as president?
Speaker 5: Well, I hope he will. But that's all I can say.
Speaker 5: I know you live in hope and die in despair,
Speaker 5: but I live in hope that Biden himself will will
Speaker 5: accept the advice of so many that we know have
Speaker 5: given him that it's time to go. But you know,
Speaker 5: I've been watching this game for fifty years and I
Speaker 5: don't know many of them who know when it's time
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 2: No, it's a good point most politicians, and in disgrace
Speaker 2: or their party forces them out. Not many leave at
Speaker 2: the top of the game. And when they do, we
Speaker 2: all say, oh, there must be some other reason. They
Speaker 2: pretend it's for family reasons and we go digging for
Speaker 2: a scandal behind the scenes. Now, a few months ago
Speaker 2: in March, I exclusively break the news that the Albanese
Speaker 2: government had removed the heads of Asio and Asis from
Speaker 2: the National Security Committee of Cabinet. Now, this was a
Speaker 2: big story. Today we learn that there has now been
Speaker 2: a total backflip and the Australian spy chief Mike Burgess
Speaker 2: has been reinstated as a permanent member of the National
Speaker 2: Security Committee of Cabinet. Michael, it's outrageous that ALBANIZI didn't
Speaker 2: think it was appropriate to have Mike Burgess sitting in
Speaker 2: that room on a permanent basis given the threats to
Speaker 2: our region.
Speaker 10: Look, the fallout from that was huge amongst the security
Speaker 10: industry within Australia, the military, the press establishment that right
Speaker 10: on defense and foreign policy matters. The outrage of what
Speaker 10: Albanze he done was what he done. What he did
Speaker 10: was long and deep. And you know, Albanizi Bat's very
Speaker 10: thin on foreign policy. I mean, you know, Miles is credible,
Speaker 10: but Wong is not credible any longer because of our
Speaker 10: appalling performance on the Middle East. Albanese has never been
Speaker 10: really interested in foreign policy. So he had to put
Speaker 10: Burgess back as a way of stopping the bleeding amongst
Speaker 10: the defense and security. You know, you know aparachics in
Speaker 10: this country who were just appalled by his decision. So
Speaker 10: good on him for acknowledging the mistake. But this was
Speaker 10: an amateur mistake that he should never have made in
Speaker 10: the first place.
Speaker 2: Well, he hasn't publicly acknowledged it, of course, so we'll
Speaker 2: look forward to seeing him do that. And what in
Speaker 2: the next couple of days. Look just a couple of
Speaker 2: issues back in Australia. Now, despite Labor making emphatic and
Speaker 2: repeated promises to lower the cost of energy bills, we
Speaker 2: know that ninety seven times that promise was made to
Speaker 2: reduce the power bill by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
Speaker 2: Confirmation today that bills are still rising. According to a
Speaker 2: new AEMO report, the cost of power skyrocketed over twenty
Speaker 2: percent last quarter, twenty percent. It's cited as a renewable
Speaker 2: drought and coal outages. And we also learned that we're
Speaker 2: now in the height of a baby recession, with the
Speaker 2: birth rate plunging amid rising cost of living. Richo look
Speaker 2: the centerpiece of the Albanzi government's budget. They poured hundreds
Speaker 2: of millions into lowering the energy bills, people's electricity bills,
Speaker 2: but people clearly aren't feeling it if AMO reports showing
Speaker 2: that they've gone up by twenty percent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the promise was the problem. You know,
Speaker 5: the idea that you get to cut energy bills is lovely.
Speaker 5: I mean, we all think that's terrific. Delivering it is
Speaker 5: just about impossible, and so I think the mistake was
Speaker 5: in the promise.
Speaker 2: Michael, I mean the coalition. We just had this polling
Speaker 2: this week in the fin Review from Freshwater Strategies, and
Speaker 2: it shows that the coalition is now head of labor
Speaker 2: for the first time and that the cost of living
Speaker 2: is the main issue for voters. And now this news
Speaker 2: about the baby recession as well. Do you think this
Speaker 2: is going to make it hard for Labor to win
Speaker 2: the next election.
Speaker 10: It is. And you know, as you know, I've been
Speaker 10: saying for months, this guy is not going to win
Speaker 10: any his own right. There's going to be swinging against him.
Speaker 10: He'll be in minority government at best and at worse
Speaker 10: for him, Darton, we'll get more seats on the floor
Speaker 10: of the Reps and then have the first chance of
Speaker 10: forming government. Look, Graham's absolutely right. He said two things
Speaker 10: at the election that won him this election, last election,
Speaker 10: more than anything else. There's a cost of living, Christ's
Speaker 10: cost of living Christs. He kept repeating that hundreds of times.
Speaker 10: And then, as you said, two seventy five dollars off here, Paabill,
Speaker 10: the elector out there, thought oh, well he's you know,
Speaker 10: he's promising these things. Well we'll go with him. And
Speaker 10: so he made those promises. These were just these were
Speaker 10: just slogans given to him by the advertising agency who
Speaker 10: were inspired by the pollsters. So Albanize went out there
Speaker 10: and said these things. If he was a company director,
Speaker 10: of course he'd be prosecuted for making such reckless statements.
Speaker 10: He got away with him. It won the election. It's
Speaker 10: coming back to bite him, and you know, stay tuned
Speaker 10: because it looks as if there'll be a four percent
Speaker 10: interest rate increase and his polls won't be in the thirties,
Speaker 10: they'll be in the twenties after that.
Speaker 2: Jerry Richard, have you got a private prediction for what
Speaker 2: the primary would be? Do you think it might be
Speaker 2: in the twenties? As Michael just said, I.
Speaker 5: Think there's a possibility of that. I hope it's wrong,
Speaker 5: but I'd say there's a chance of it. You know,
Speaker 5: the only thing that Elbow has really got going for
Speaker 5: him is that people like him. You know, the energy
Speaker 5: promise was a mistake. You then don't deliver on it
Speaker 5: and then people punish you. That's the theory. And the
Speaker 5: only thing in the road of that is the fact
Speaker 5: that people think he's a good fella.
Speaker 2: Does that come through in the research, by the way,
Speaker 2: rich O and the labor research, that people like him?
Speaker 2: Because you always say it, and anecdotally I just don't
Speaker 2: hear people saying anymore. Ah, the Prime Minister, what a
Speaker 2: good block.
Speaker 5: I think fewer people are saying it, and no question
Speaker 5: about that. But you can't say there are none saying it.
Speaker 5: There are. But you know, the numbers are dropping, and
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you say that's alarming, but it's
Speaker 5: certainly concerning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Michael Kroger Gray and Richardson. Great to
Speaker 2: have you both on. Thank you very much. Now after
Speaker 2: the break, we're live to the United States after another
Speaker 2: big day in politics, and Joe Biden comes out of
Speaker 2: hiding as he prepares to address the world, And Mike
Speaker 2: Pompeo's former top advisor will join me next with her
Speaker 2: assessment on what a Kamala Harris presidency would look like.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, welcome back. Well, Joe Biden should have sacked
Speaker 2: the head of the Secret Service immediately after Donald Trump
Speaker 2: nearly took a bullet to the head. This is the
Speaker 2: most shocking and almost incomprehensible security failure in decades. Yet outrageously,
Speaker 2: Kimberly Cheetle wasn't sacked after almost two weeks of making excuses.
Speaker 2: She's finally stood down when members of Congress on both
Speaker 2: sides of politics called for her resignation and her during
Speaker 2: your hearing yesterday, and Cheeto finally considered that the Secret
Speaker 2: Service fell short in protecting Trump, and yet we are
Speaker 2: no closer to knowing any real information about the shooter,
Speaker 2: or why law enforcement and the Secret Service didn't act
Speaker 2: despite knowing there was a suspicious person on a nearby roof,
Speaker 2: and why didn't any of them tell Trump or his
Speaker 2: team not to go on stage. There are many questions
Speaker 2: and no answers. We're joining us now to discuss his
Speaker 2: former US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo's senior advisor, who
Speaker 2: is now the executive vice president at Steven's Ink, Mary Kissel, Welcome,
Speaker 2: Great to see you once again.
Speaker 12: Mary.
Speaker 2: Look, this is the most serious security failure. No adequate
Speaker 2: explanation given by anyone for how this went so wrong.
Speaker 2: Do you think there needs to be a stronger push
Speaker 2: to actually investigate, call a proper inquiry to find out
Speaker 2: what happened in Butler?
Speaker 3: It's great to be with you, sherryon good morning from Texas.
Speaker 3: It is a shocking failure of the Secret Service, but
Speaker 3: unfortunately it's not the first time we've had a major
Speaker 3: failure of that institution. And I would say that what
Speaker 3: was shocking, Sharry isn't that the President didn't fire her.
Speaker 3: What's shocking is that she didn't resign immediately. I mean,
Speaker 3: who's resigned for the Afghanistan debacle. No one. There's no
Speaker 3: honor in US politics anymore. It's sad to say, but
Speaker 3: it's true. I think the only encouraging thing to come
Speaker 3: out of this is that there was bipartisan condemnation her,
Speaker 3: bipartisan pressure on her to resign, and that's what led
Speaker 3: to her leaving that post. And there will be a
Speaker 3: bipartisan investigation into the Secret Service, which is very low morale.
Speaker 3: It's constantly ranked as one of the worst places to
Speaker 3: work in America. It is a very urgent that we
Speaker 3: fix that agency.
Speaker 2: I mean, you worked very closely with Mike Pompa as
Speaker 2: his top advisor when he was Secretary of State. There's
Speaker 2: always risks to any high profile politician in America. You know,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of extremists in the country, a
Speaker 2: lot of access to guns. Do you think other politicians
Speaker 2: will now be fearful that they too may not be protected.
Speaker 3: Well, remember we had that shooting of Republican Congressman Steve
Speaker 3: Scalice and others at a congressional baseball game just a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Mister Scalise almost lost his life.
Speaker 3: We had a home invasion of National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan,
Speaker 3: the security services have allowed constant protests in front of
Speaker 3: our Supreme Court justices who have themselves called for more security. Later.
Speaker 3: On top of that that, you have state sponsored threats
Speaker 3: like Iran, who has threatened to kill my former boss,
Speaker 3: Mike Pompeo, John Bolton and others. And yes, it's a
Speaker 3: very complex environment. We are a free society, so there
Speaker 3: are some restrictions. But certainly you would think that our
Speaker 3: diplomatic security, our Secret Service, FBI, DHS and others would
Speaker 3: be able to do a better job than this. I
Speaker 3: don't know what the problem is, Sherry. It's probably a
Speaker 3: multitude of failures over decades, but you've got to ask
Speaker 3: what is it going to take for us to get
Speaker 3: serious about solving them? And unfortunately, you know a former
Speaker 3: president almost losing his life. Well, let's hope that that's
Speaker 3: the crisis that sparks real change. But I'm pretty cynical, Sherry.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it will.
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you there. Look, I want to
Speaker 2: turn to Kamala Harris. There's concern that she may not
Speaker 2: be on the same page as Biden when it comes
Speaker 2: to Middle East foreign policy. What's your view on her
Speaker 2: position here? And whether she may not be a support
Speaker 2: of Israel as Biden has been over decades.
Speaker 3: So the way that you ask that question suggests it's
Speaker 3: solely a question of foreign policy, but cherry. Unfortunately, it's
Speaker 3: also a question of US domestic politics. Kamala Harris has
Speaker 3: to win the so called Blue Wall states, which include Michigan.
Speaker 3: Michigan is a very large Palestinian American population. Recall that
Speaker 3: during the primary they lodged a vote of protest against
Speaker 3: President Biden for his tepid support of Israel, and so
Speaker 3: I view, and I think many others view Kamala Harris's
Speaker 3: strong support of the ceasefire, which would hand to massa victory,
Speaker 3: as not really a foreign policy issue. It's more of
Speaker 3: a domestic play to win over those key swing votes
Speaker 3: for Democrats in the states that she needs to win
Speaker 3: the presidency.
Speaker 2: Where I'm going to hear tomorrow morning, our time, tonight,
Speaker 2: yours from Joe Biden for the first time. Are you
Speaker 2: among those who think he should step down as president
Speaker 2: if his cognitive decline is so great that he can't
Speaker 2: run again, Well, what about the next six months?
Speaker 3: Well, it's no doubt an extremely dangerous period of time.
Speaker 3: He's already a lame duck president now that he's said
Speaker 3: that he's not going to run again top of the ticket.
Speaker 3: I think the decision of whether or not he steps
Speaker 3: down is a decision for him and his family. I
Speaker 3: would hope that he would do the right thing if
Speaker 3: he's not mentally capable to do the job. I wish
Speaker 3: him good health. I think it was kind of a
Speaker 3: relief to many Americans when they saw him able to
Speaker 3: walk onto that airplane yesterday of air Force One, because
Speaker 3: we haven't seen him since last Wednesday. But Sherry, it's
Speaker 3: not really a matter of you know, is Joe Biden
Speaker 3: competent right now? That makes it a dangerous time for
Speaker 3: America in the free world. I mean, we have seen
Speaker 3: an erosion of US deterrence now for the last three
Speaker 3: and a half years. That has resulted in many things,
Speaker 3: whether it's more aggressive China, whether it's Putin invading Ukraine,
Speaker 3: whether it's Iran launching direct attacks on Israel. Israel not
Speaker 3: able to rely on US, so they're launching direct attacks
Speaker 3: just in these recent days on UTI targets, and I'm
Speaker 3: in the major attack over the weekend that they were
Speaker 3: compelled to do for their own security. So I think
Speaker 3: in some respects it's a little misleading. Don't just focus
Speaker 3: on this one event, focus on the bigger picture here
Speaker 3: and also how we've allowed China, Russia, Iran, North Korea
Speaker 3: to get together and form an alliance of sorts and
Speaker 3: an evil alliance. Yes, that is presenting a huge threat
Speaker 3: not just to our interests here in the United States,
Speaker 3: but to yours, to Japan's, to India's, to Taiwan's. It's
Speaker 3: a growing threat. We've got to get serious about it,
Speaker 3: and we've got to get serious about restoring de terrence
Speaker 3: because without it, I fear that we're moving toward a
Speaker 3: greater conflagration, the lives of which we haven't seen in
Speaker 3: many decades. Now.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, and we talked about that emerging access
Speaker 2: of evil often on this program. And that's the one
Speaker 2: thing that concerns me about the Republican Party is that
Speaker 2: there's this isolationist movement for America not to be involved
Speaker 2: in foreign was when at this time, at the most
Speaker 2: volatile time in decades, we need a United States that
Speaker 2: is going to play a strong role as a world leader.
Speaker 2: Just before you go, Mary, does that concern you that
Speaker 2: there's this push for America not to get involved in
Speaker 2: any foreign wars. And if you know whoever's the president
Speaker 2: articulates that, then our enemies know that.
Speaker 3: Well, if you had us the terments, if our enemies
Speaker 3: feared us, then there wouldn't be foreign wars under the
Speaker 3: last four presidents. The only one where Putin didn't invade
Speaker 3: a foreign country was under President Trump. And I think
Speaker 3: our record in the Trump administration has been grossly mis distorted.
Speaker 3: The idea that we weren't interested in leadership or alliances
Speaker 3: is simply simply false. We had a unanimous support from
Speaker 3: NATO from withdrawing from the I n F Treaty. We
Speaker 3: sanctioned Putin's inner circle. We unleashed you a center, We
Speaker 3: took away his money. We imposed strong tariffs on China,
Speaker 3: We revivified the Quad. We got together with the European
Speaker 3: Union and started a dialogue on China. It never happened.
Speaker 3: We went around the world, We got countries to get
Speaker 3: rid of Huaweih, to wake up to Chinese influence operation.
Speaker 2: This is a lot of this. A lot of this
Speaker 2: is Mike Pompeo, though, isn't it. This is all thanks
Speaker 2: to the former Secretary of State.
Speaker 3: No, Mike Pompeio answered to President Trump, and every major
Speaker 3: decision he took was sanctioned by the president. The president
Speaker 3: sets foreign policy, and I have to say, Cherry, I
Speaker 3: listened to a lot of this commentary and it just
Speaker 3: absolutely befuddles me, because it just you have to ignore
Speaker 3: the record of achievement in order to claim that the
Speaker 3: United States is somehow retreating into an isolationist show. We're not.
Speaker 3: If we didn't care about NATO, for instance, why would
Speaker 3: we go to trouble to browbeat these countries into simply
Speaker 3: living up to their promises. Look, two percent is a floor.
Speaker 3: If you were serious about countering the threat from Vladimir Putin,
Speaker 3: it should be three percent, four percent, five percent, And
Speaker 3: those should be discussions happening in European capitals today. European
Speaker 3: voters should want their leaders to be serious about their
Speaker 3: own security, not to outsource it. So I think these
Speaker 3: are necessary conversations. I think the idea that we're not
Speaker 3: active internationally is ridiculous, and I think that a lot
Speaker 3: of the fear monitoring that's been happening about a second
Speaker 3: Trump term, I think this is unwarranted. And you've got
Speaker 3: to look at the record of the Trump era versus
Speaker 3: the Biden era. What did Biden do? Pulled out of Afghanistan,
Speaker 3: appeas deran, paid for our hostages, did nothing to really
Speaker 3: enact consequences as communists, China has become more aggressive. Yes
Speaker 3: he did August, that's great. Yes he continued the quad And.
Speaker 2: To me, I was Australia's idea, not America's Mary. So
Speaker 2: we've got to leave it there. But I have to say,
Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone watching can see why you were Mike
Speaker 2: Pompeio's top advisor. I really appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Now, staying in the US, Kamala Harris had
Speaker 2: her first campaign rally on the battleground state of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: She pitched herself to voters in her bid to become
Speaker 2: US president, and joining me now live is Sky News
Speaker 2: Washington correspondent Analie Nilsen. Analise, thank you very much. What's
Speaker 2: your analysis of Kamala's first official campaign event today.
Speaker 6: Look, she's hit the ground running and the response so
Speaker 6: far has been good, but there's a long way to
Speaker 6: go and she's riding on some momentum, especially with these
Speaker 6: new fundraising figures. Coming in that she's raised now they're
Speaker 6: saying eighty one million dollars since it was announced that
Speaker 6: Joe Biden was going to withdraw from the race. But
Speaker 6: what I would say is that this could absolutely change
Speaker 6: the closer we get to election day. She's going to
Speaker 6: have to do more media, which hasn't traditionally been her
Speaker 6: strong point. And this is going to be also something
Speaker 6: where we have to focus on how the debates go.
Speaker 6: Donald Trump's now said he'll do as many debates as
Speaker 6: she wants. There should be at least one more, but
Speaker 6: he wants at least two more, and we don't know
Speaker 6: how she's going to fear in that environment. He was
Speaker 6: very reserved with Joe Biden. He really held back and
Speaker 6: just let Joe Biden to take the stage, and then
Speaker 6: we saw just so many issues with his cognitive function.
Speaker 6: Trump didn't have to do much. It's likely that he'll
Speaker 6: kind of up that strategy with Kamala Harris, go toe
Speaker 6: to toe with her, and then that could be what
Speaker 6: really changes. But there is just this sense among Democrats
Speaker 6: that they're so relieved that Joe Biden's out that they're
Speaker 6: really going all in on Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: Although of course, Trump might also hold back a bit
Speaker 2: on Kamala Harris because of her gender. His advisors might
Speaker 2: encourage him not to be as tough on her. Adelie's
Speaker 2: what are you hearing in terms of whether Biden's expected
Speaker 2: to offer any explanation when he speaks later tonight Your
Speaker 2: time for why he's no longer running.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, we're finally getting this Oval office address. There
Speaker 6: was this promise in the letter that were supposed to
Speaker 6: Twitter when Joe Biden announced that he was resigning, and
Speaker 6: then that was indicating that he was going to speak
Speaker 6: to the nation later this week. What I think we'll
Speaker 6: try to emphasize is that he's not a lame duck,
Speaker 6: because he is very much a laying duck. Now everyone
Speaker 6: knows he's on the way out. He's got six months left.
Speaker 6: Remember in the US, you do formally hand over on
Speaker 6: January twenty, so that's a few months after election day.
Speaker 6: There's still that transition period. But it's really going to
Speaker 6: be hard for him now to advance any kind of
Speaker 6: major agenda now everyone knows he's leaving, and also these
Speaker 6: questions about his cognitive, fitness and ability. So I think
Speaker 6: they're going to be trying to put forward a strong
Speaker 6: image that he's not weak. He's going to be trying
Speaker 6: to deny any of that question, any of those questions
Speaker 6: around his cognitive abilities. But frankly, it's just well over
Speaker 6: the fact we haven't heard from him or seen him
Speaker 6: since this major announcement, the fact we only got to
Speaker 6: glimpse him walking down the stairs yesterday after this COVID diagnosis.
Speaker 6: It really is shocking when you consider when LBJ withdrew
Speaker 6: from the race, when Richard Nixon resigned. They did that
Speaker 6: to the American people. It's really overd you that he
Speaker 6: does this now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, especially as you've pointed out, not everyone is
Speaker 2: on social media. Many people are not. Annelie Nielsen really
Speaker 2: appreciate your analysis. How still ta Kama Stark warning that
Speaker 2: Australian mortgageholders could be facing even more interest rate hikes.
Speaker 2: Economist Warren Hogan will give us his alarming prediction.
Speaker 6: In a moment.
Speaker 2: Plus who would be better for Australia Kamala or Trump.
Speaker 2: We're going to discuss with my panel next. Welcome back. Well,
Speaker 2: we've got some breaking news justin the Australian flag bearers
Speaker 2: for the Paris Olympics opening ceremony have just been announced
Speaker 2: and you're going to love at least the first padler
Speaker 2: Jessica Fox and hockey veteran Eddie Ockinden will lead the
Speaker 2: Australian Olympic team as flag bearers in Friday's Paris twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four opening ceremony on the River Saine. You remember
Speaker 2: jess Fox Ie an Olympic gold medal at the last
Speaker 2: Olympics and became a fan favorite. Well, let's look now
Speaker 2: at the broader security for Australians in Paris for the
Speaker 2: upcoming Olympic Games. This is now a major concern after
Speaker 2: two incidents caused the alarm. There were two members of
Speaker 2: nine's Olympics broadcast team who were attacked in an attempted
Speaker 2: robbery on Monday, and an Australian woman was gang raped
Speaker 2: in Paris by five men and police are investigating. Athletes
Speaker 2: have now been told not to wear their team uniform
Speaker 2: when outside the athlete's village for security reasons. Well to discuss,
Speaker 2: let's bring in the Deputy Chair of the Parliamentary Joint
Speaker 2: Committee on Intelligence and Security, Andrew Wallace and former Press
Speaker 2: Secretary to Julia Gillard Darren Barnett. Welcome to you both.
Speaker 2: Thing good to see you here in studio.
Speaker 9: Derek, thank you.
Speaker 2: Andrew's starting with you. You know you're on the Intelligence
Speaker 2: and Security Committee Deputy chair. How do you assess the
Speaker 2: security risks of these Olympic Games in Paris.
Speaker 12: Well, I think it's very clear that the French government
Speaker 12: is pulling out all stops to ensure that these games
Speaker 12: are going to be a very safe games. My understanding
Speaker 12: is that between police, military and private security that they
Speaker 12: are absolutely doing everything that they can to ensure the
Speaker 12: safety of games participants and visitors alike. But there's no
Speaker 12: doubt there is a great feeling of unease amongst security
Speaker 12: officials about terrorism in these games, so no doubt that
Speaker 12: they will do everything they can to try and keep
Speaker 12: people safe. But it's certainly a matter of concern, and
Speaker 12: of course our hearts and thoughts and prayers go out
Speaker 12: to the young lady that was legitly raped and also
Speaker 12: the Channel nine people that were assaulted. So people just
Speaker 12: need to be very very careful over in France, as
Speaker 12: they would normally anywhere when they're traveling overseas, but particularly
Speaker 12: at a time where the Olympics are on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they alleged gang rape. Absolutely horrific to hear about that.
Speaker 2: But Darren Andrew Wallace, Deputy Chair of the Intelligence and
Speaker 2: Security Committees, just said that there are concerns among the
Speaker 2: security establishment about a potential terror attack. You know, this
Speaker 2: is a worry a lot of people heading to the Olympics,
Speaker 2: very much so.
Speaker 9: And obviously there was Munich nineteen seventy two is the
Speaker 9: most famous of the terrorist attacks. But that sort of
Speaker 9: threat is always going to be present, and particularly the
Speaker 9: poorest sort of borders of Europe, it's not hard to
Speaker 9: imagine that there'd be that honeypot that people who are
Speaker 9: looking to cause trouble are going to find their way
Speaker 9: to Paris. So, as mister Wallace quite rightly pointed out
Speaker 9: that there's going to be a lot of security, private security,
Speaker 9: all sorts of every effort will be made to make
Speaker 9: these games safe. But we still need to be on
Speaker 9: our kind of high alert because this is the type
Speaker 9: of event that terrorist groups would love because they would
Speaker 9: get incredible notoriety should they be successful in an attack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've even seen some posts from the Hamas
Speaker 2: terrorist group that obviously I'm not going to replay their
Speaker 2: propaganda on air, but they have been alarming social media posts.
Speaker 2: Now let's turn to one of the Albanezi government's most
Speaker 2: controversial policy since coming to office. That's their Big Australia Plan.
Speaker 2: According to the Australians Need of the Nation polling figures,
Speaker 2: over thirteen percent of Australians surveyed don't support the increase
Speaker 2: in the number of immigrants. Half of Australians polled would
Speaker 2: prefer fewer migrants, and support for immigration overall has nearly
Speaker 2: halved over the past ten years. Andrew Wallace, what do
Speaker 2: you think do you think the immigration intake has been
Speaker 2: too high?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Shari.
Speaker 12: I mean what this pole reveals is nothing new to me,
Speaker 12: and it should be nothing new to journalists or commentators
Speaker 12: or in fact any parliamentarians at all. When I'm out
Speaker 12: walking the streets in Fisher on the Sunshine Coast, people
Speaker 12: are telling me that they simply can't afford Many people
Speaker 12: can't afford to even rent a.
Speaker 1: Home, let alone buying a home.
Speaker 12: And what we're now experiencing is people young, young families
Speaker 12: in particular, and older women in particular, who just they're
Speaker 12: sleeping rough in their cars because they can't afford rent.
Speaker 12: They certainly can't afford the mortgage or payments that come
Speaker 12: with houses. So the Labor Party have brought in more
Speaker 12: than one point two million people over the last two years.
Speaker 12: That's having a drastic impact on the availability of homes
Speaker 12: for Australians. So people are very angry.
Speaker 2: Darren I mean the Albanizi argues that the high intake
Speaker 2: is just to make up for the during the COVID era,
Speaker 2: But isn't the issue that this wasn't put to voters.
Speaker 2: Voters were never told there was going to be such
Speaker 2: a dramatic rise in the immigration intake, that there was
Speaker 2: going to be this big Australia strategy.
Speaker 9: Also, voters don't look backwards, they look forwards and they
Speaker 9: look at their present situation. And Andrew's right. People feel
Speaker 9: cost of living pressures, they feel that there's a shortage
Speaker 9: of available and affordable housing and they blame the government.
Speaker 9: And in this instance they see people coming in from overseas,
Speaker 9: so there should have been a better explanation made. I
Speaker 9: think the Labor Government has made some reductions in the
Speaker 9: targets for immigration from what they were a couple of
Speaker 9: years ago, but it's still an increase and that's something
Speaker 9: that they need to explain to the voting public.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: In terms of this breaking news that's come in this
Speaker 2: evening on the Sydney Morning Herald, they're reporting that Labor
Speaker 2: ministers Linda Burnie and Brendan O'Connor are expected to announce
Speaker 2: their retirement in the coming days. We can't confirm or
Speaker 2: verify that that report from the City Morning Herald. Andrew
Speaker 2: Wallace Linda Bernie, she wanted her legacy to be the
Speaker 2: voice that was voted down by Australians. Would there's be
Speaker 2: a sad note for her to end her career on.
Speaker 12: Well Sharie. Look, I'd like to be able to say
Speaker 12: nice things about Linda, but Linda really was out of
Speaker 12: her depth as Indigenous Affairs Minister. She oversaw what was
Speaker 12: a disastrous campaign. Even from Labor Party perspectives. There's no
Speaker 12: doubt in my mind that Labor are clearing the decks.
Speaker 12: You can see this, what's happening Brendan O'Connor, Linda, they are.
Speaker 1: Getting ready for an early election.
Speaker 12: There's no doubt in my.
Speaker 1: Mind about that.
Speaker 2: I don't know about it, Elliot. I think it opened.
Speaker 1: Away reshuffle.
Speaker 2: All about the resha Drew Giles and maybe even Clara
Speaker 2: O'Neil out of those portfolios.
Speaker 9: There are rumors that that might occur, that someone such
Speaker 9: as a Pat Conroy might get a promotion and leaving
Speaker 9: vocational jobs and skills open, which is Brendan O'Connor's patch,
Speaker 9: you might see Andrew Giles shift over in that direction.
Speaker 9: I'm not sure about Home affairs, there's not a lot
Speaker 9: of There are rumors, but obviously no one tells me
Speaker 9: in truth what's going on, But certainly the chatter is
Speaker 9: that there's a reshuffle on the way and opening those
Speaker 9: two senior spots, the Linda Bernie spot and the Brendan
Speaker 9: O'Connor spot, means people can shift kind of without losing
Speaker 9: best status, and that will mean there'll be new people
Speaker 9: in the cap.
Speaker 2: And it'll be interesting to see who in your promoted
Speaker 2: to cabinet. Yeah, go ahead, Andrew.
Speaker 12: The Prime Minister is left with no choice but to
Speaker 12: move Andrew Giles. He's overseen an absolutely disastrous immigration portfolio
Speaker 12: who's been a huge embarrassment to.
Speaker 1: The Labor Party.
Speaker 12: So there's no doubt that Andrew Giles will be moved,
Speaker 12: should be sacked, but moved somewhere. And Claire O'Neill.
Speaker 2: Do you know what, Andrew, I think there wouldn't be
Speaker 2: an Australian who would think that Andrew Giles has done
Speaker 2: a great job. And yet he is one of Albanezy's
Speaker 2: numbers men, so he might not actually sack him from cabinet.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: He ends up in vocational skills yah yea yeah, and
Speaker 9: that means that they say face yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, Andrew Willis, Darren Barnett, thank you both very
Speaker 2: much for your time. Now, we've still got another interesting
Speaker 2: segment on the show after the break. Australia at the
Speaker 2: height of a baby recession. This is sparking more problems
Speaker 2: for the government. Economist Warren Hogan will join me next
Speaker 2: with his exclusive prediction of up to three more rate heights.
Speaker 2: Let's hope he's wrong. That coming up. Welcome back. Well,
Speaker 2: cast your mind back to two thousand and four and
Speaker 2: then Treasurer Peter Costello was scrambling for a solution to
Speaker 2: Australia's plummeting birth rate and he told a generation of
Speaker 2: Ozzie's this now famous line, he one for mom, one
Speaker 2: for dead, and one for the country. Well, if the
Speaker 2: latest stats are any indicator. Current Treasurer Jim Chalmers may
Speaker 2: have to issue a similar plea because Australia, we learn today,
Speaker 2: is in the height of a baby recession and nationwide
Speaker 2: they were just under two hundred and ninety thousand berths
Speaker 2: last year, down by four point six percent on the
Speaker 2: previous year, and it's the lowest since two thousand and six. Well,
Speaker 2: let's bring in now economist Warren Hogan. Warren, thank you
Speaker 2: very much for joining us. What is this falling birth rate?
Speaker 2: Say about how the cost of living crisis is impacting
Speaker 2: on everyday families Hie.
Speaker 1: Jerry, thanks for having me on the show. Yeah.
Speaker 13: Look, it's no doubt a factor here and this is
Speaker 13: big consequence if indeed it's a major force. But the
Speaker 13: cost of living crisis.
Speaker 1: Is very real.
Speaker 13: It's one of the biggest setbacks in living standards that
Speaker 13: we've seen in this country's history, certainly in its modern history,
Speaker 13: and it's.
Speaker 1: Playing a role. Birth rates are.
Speaker 13: Essentially an economic phenomenon, but I think the real issue
Speaker 13: here is housing affordability and I think that's the major
Speaker 13: factor right now driving the lower birth rate, the lower
Speaker 13: fertility rates, and you can see that in the spread
Speaker 13: of the results across different parts of Australia.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go to those different parts of Australia. So
Speaker 2: which state is the worst when it comes to the
Speaker 2: falling birth rate?
Speaker 13: Yeah, well the report shows, unsurprisingly that it's the capital
Speaker 13: cities which have got obviously the most expensive housing, and
Speaker 13: Sydney which has got the biggest fall of over eight percent.
Speaker 13: Regional New South Wales has only fallen marginally less than
Speaker 13: one percent, and regional Australia is a lot less. I
Speaker 13: think that's the clue that tells us that housing affordability
Speaker 13: is the real issue. And of course if a kid,
Speaker 13: if a family wanted to have three kids and they
Speaker 13: can only live in a two bedroom apartment, then they
Speaker 13: might only have one, and a family that might have
Speaker 13: had one in an apartment might decide not to have any.
Speaker 1: So I think that's the real issue.
Speaker 2: And then there's the whole generation who don't want to
Speaker 2: have kids for climate change. But that's another conversation we'll
Speaker 2: have another day. Warren, you made headlines recently when you
Speaker 2: predicted there could be two rate hikes, but now you've
Speaker 2: got news for us tonight and you're saying it might
Speaker 2: potentially be even worse. Than this.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not great news, but of course it's the
Speaker 13: reality which we can't walk away from, and the Reserve
Speaker 13: Bank Board certainly won't. We are now looking at a
Speaker 13: rate hike in a few weeks, and that's on the
Speaker 13: back of what we've seen with not just inflation but
Speaker 13: also strong employment. And they're probably going to have to
Speaker 13: do too, because what's the point of all the anks
Speaker 13: that they're going to generate in the community and the
Speaker 13: political leadership with just doing one twenty five point move
Speaker 13: after four hundred and twenty twenty five basis points we've
Speaker 13: seen already, So.
Speaker 1: They're probably going to have to do too.
Speaker 13: But this is all ahead of the stimulus hitting the economy,
Speaker 13: the tax cuts, the cost of living measures, the state
Speaker 13: government measures, and we've seen hints in the last week
Speaker 13: that this could start to have a very big impact.
Speaker 13: Consumer sentiment from our weekly read.
Speaker 2: Remains quickly interrupt because we're running out of time. But
Speaker 2: you think that come November, if.
Speaker 13: The risks there to be a third one, that's something
Speaker 13: we can't rule out at least two, and there's a
Speaker 13: risk of more. We've got to get the cash right up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Warren Hogan thank you very much for
Speaker 2: your time, and that's it for me. I'll see you
Speaker 2: tomorrow at eight o'clock. And up now in the man cave,
Speaker 2: it's poor myray life.