1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Well, hello there, thank you for tuning into this body 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: and soul podcast called Healthy Ish. How are you? I 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: hope you are getting through winter well? This week we're 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: going to inspire you, motivate you, and just help you 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: push through the colder months. I am a Felicity Harley, 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: host of this podcast. Now, the world is heavy, isn't it? 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: We're all feeling it? So how can you still stay 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: up to date with the news, participate in conversations, but 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: not let yourself get overpowered by the negativity. Well? I 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: am joined today by a TV presenter and podcaster, Georgie Tunney, 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: who shares how she safeguards her wellbeing working in the 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: news space. If you do like what you hear from Georgie, 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: make sure you're listening to Extra Healthy Ish, where she 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: shares her tips and her experience of owning her confidence. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: You can catch that wherever you get your podcasts. Georgie, 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: lovely to have you on the podcast today. How are you? 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm actually really well. 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: How are you? 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a lot better, Thank you? Feeling very healthy? Good? 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key, right, It's always in the ish. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: I live my life by the Ish. Now talk to me. 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: You front the news every day and you know you 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: no doubt come across and see a lot of things 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: you'd rather not. I mean, you can't turn off the 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: rest of us. Can How do you cope with this? 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: I think that there is a and this is probably 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: going to be up for debate, but there's a healthy 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: ish desensitivity for people that work in the media, like 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: you do see such awful images time and time again, 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: Like every day you're seeing something that the average person 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: may not. And so I think that that for a 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: lot of my career, you have to learn how to 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: compartmentalize and as an mpath which I would classify myself as, 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: it can be really difficult surrounding yourself with a great 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: support network and a support network that gets it. So 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: it's really important, I think, to have friends in the 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: media who kind of understand what you're going through. But 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that I don't have periods where all 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: of my defenses that I think I've put up and 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: I've put up really well don't come crumbling down, like 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: most recently, even just with all of the awful images 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: that we're seeing over in the Middle East right now. 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: I think that We've been covering that for months and 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: months and months, and there's a part of you that 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: can kind of hold it at arm's length. But then 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: we had this amazing surgeon on the other day that 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: was giving us his retelling of what life is like 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: on the ground and the reality of his time spent 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: in Gaza. And I wasn't even on the desk. I 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: remember I was watching the show from home and I 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: was sitting on the couch and I just started sobbing 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: because it was like I'd held it at bay for 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: so long, and then the tidal wave kind of comes over. 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: And so I think when those moments happen, what I 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: find is helpful is to just feel it. So you 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: actually have to feel it in those moments. There's no 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: point just like trying to, you know, like a boat 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: that's sinking, try. 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: And block all of the leaks. 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's healthier to feel it in that time and 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: then talk to someone. Then I talk to my support 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: network and I'm like, oh, hey, yeah, this is going on. Yeah, 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: but it's always a work in progress, and I think 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: it's always changing for me to be honest about how 65 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: I deal with it, because younger me, i'd be like, 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: don't feel it at all, just pushed through conceal, don't 67 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: feel And the older I get, I think that that's 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: less healthy. 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And it does creep up on you sometimes. 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean also, having worked in the media for many years, 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: sometimes I question myself when I see things. I'm like, 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: why why aren't I feeling more empathetic towards this? Like 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: is this where am I at? But then suddenly I'll 74 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: see something you know, as you say, talking to the doctor, 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, gosh, that really hit me. 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: And I think, and to be fair, I also think 77 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: that that's necessary for us as well. You can't you 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: can't have that emotional response to every single thing because 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: you'll actually just be a mess, like you wouldn't be 80 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: able to function. So there does need to be that 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: healthy level of dissociation really, and yeah, it's unfortunately though, 82 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: when you do that, you can't pick and choose when 83 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: one story is going to hit you more than others. 84 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: No, what about when the really heavy topics like COVID 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: or the bushfires, when you've covered these things, I mean, 86 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I think the Middle East is in that category as 87 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: well to a degree, But what about the ones closer 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: to home. 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Oh. I feel that especially going through COVID was just 90 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: the wildest time, wasn't it. And being in news as 91 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: well throughout that time, Like I feel a sense of 92 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: numbness when I look back through it. I think that 93 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: I don't I didn't truly understand how it was affecting 94 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: me when I was going through it because I was 95 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: putting up the walls. I was putting up the full frozen, 96 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: concealed don't feel it was like, I'm not I can't 97 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: actually engage with this because I won't be able to 98 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: get up in the morning. And I was getting up 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: at two am, you know, as a frontline worker throughout 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: all that time, and I just remember everything was just muted. 101 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: That's what I kind of mean by it was sort 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: of numb. And you're doing your best to be engaged 103 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: with the news when you're at work, But then the 104 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: thing with the bushfires and COVID and events like this, 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: they follow you outside of the office as well because 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: you're living it. And that's when I think it gets 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: really tricky to be able to compartmentalize a lot. And 108 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: so when those kind of things were happening, I fell 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: into a routine of taking myself for a walk, so 110 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, it was like a hot girl walk now, 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: but it used to be a stupid little mental health work. 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a therapeutic walk. It's the healing pair 113 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: of nature. That's what it is, and it always has 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: been that, and. 115 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: It always always works. And throughout all of those times 116 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: when we were reporting on you know, people's absolute worst 117 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: days of their lives like that, does you do carry that? 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: You carry that with you for a little bit longer, 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: And I found the only thing that actually helps is 120 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: being in nature and being able to breathe a bit 121 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: and then you can slowly just to delayer all of 122 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: that trauma, if that makes sense. 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely has this, you know, being exposed to this human 124 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: suffering and on the flip side, inspiration like, let you know, 125 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: you meeting plenty of inspiring people and interviewing them. How 126 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: has it changed your outlook ll on life? 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that And this is look, this is 128 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: going to sound bleak, but it's made me realize, I 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: think in a healthy way, that nothing actually matters, if 130 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: that makes sense, Everything that you are worried about. And 131 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: I am an overthinker to the max. I work in 132 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: the media industry, like my brain's not always firing on 133 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: all cylinders, And so I find that things that I 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: could be worried about. Someone said they didn't like what 135 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: I was wearing. Someone didn't like my opinion that day, 136 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: someone thought I should have said X instead of why 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, being able to talk 138 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: to these kind of people and report on these sort 139 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: of stories, you just find that it really doesn't matter. 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: It like because see. 141 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: The small stuff. It's such a great saying, but it's 142 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: so true. 143 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 2: It's so true, it's so true, and it's just something 144 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: that I will always tell myself when I'm really feeling 145 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: a little bit too down by something or and I 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: don't quite know if I'm just a bit off. I 147 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: need to get out of my own head and stop 148 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: making me the center of the universe. 149 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: Aside from walking, how else do you prioritize your health 150 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: more being exercise exercise. 151 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: I have recently started with a PT, so over the 152 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: last year I try my schedules a bit crazy, but 153 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: I try to do about three sessions a week, and 154 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 2: I can honestly say I have never noticed a difference 155 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: more in terms of my health physically or mentally, Like 156 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: it's I make sure. I've tried to make it a priority, 157 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: and it's made such a big difference. I feel so 158 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: much better afterwards, even though as soon as my alarm 159 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: goes off, I hate everyone and I don't want to 160 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: do anything inside inside, oh my god, inside outside, I 161 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: don't have to ask the question outside. Oh yeah, I 162 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: would not be outside. No no, no, no inside. But even 163 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: just me, like, the first thing, the hardest thing is 164 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: getting the dinner off. That's the hardest thing, that first step. 165 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: And as soon as I can do that, I'm like, 166 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: all right, we can do it, and I know that 167 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 2: I'll feel better afterwards. I try. I'm not very good, 168 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: but I'm trying to improve my sleep pattern. I think 169 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: it's a bit of a hangover from working in Brecky 170 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: TV for all those years. It's like I can function 171 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: on very little sleep. It's just the quality of the functioning, 172 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: yes sense, and I've just never been a very good sleeper. 173 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: I still wake up all the time through the night, 174 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: so I'm trying to sort of put my phone away 175 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: and read before I go to bed. I would honestly 176 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: say I've achieved that, you know, five percent of the time, 177 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: but it's something on my to work on list, and 178 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: I do think it would I do think it would 179 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: make Yeah, I think it would make a difference. I'm 180 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: told it would make a difference. 181 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: Oh, I know it will make a difference anyway. Georgie, 182 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: good luck on the sleep thing, and thank you for 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: coming on healthy Ah. 184 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me so he dreams. Everyone. 185 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: Yes, reach to wello listeners. 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