1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm christinamiot. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: It's Monday, April fourteen, twenty twenty five. Taxpayers could be 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: on the hook for an extra one billion dollars per 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: year if private berths aren't propped up. Modeling shows private 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: births could be extinct by twenty thirty if a sustainable 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: funding model isn't put in place and fast. That exclusive 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: story from the Australian's Health editor Natasha Robinson is live 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: right now at the Australian dot com dot au. Anthony 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Albanezi would be returned with a hung Parliament if an 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: election were held today. That's according to new data from 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: Newspoll and it comes as both the major parties fire 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: the starting gun on their official election campaigns. Today. The 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Australian's National editor Dennis Shanahan pulls back the curtain on 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: a big day of political theater. 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: This is a time to keep building and to keep 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: building with labor. 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: This election outcome will define the decades to come. 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: I trust Peter Dutton with every fiver of my being. 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 5: Albo is about the next generation, not the next news cycle. 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: These challenges provide clarity about what we must do as 21 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: a nation. 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: And at this election, our ambitions, our agendas, our plans 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: for the future are a world apart. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: And I will always stand up for our national interest. 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 5: The Liberals shed friends faster than Elon Musk. Peter Dutton 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 5: is too reckless and too risky to be the prime 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 5: minister of our great country Australia. 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: We have a liar in the lodge. 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: These ideals are being crushed by a bad Labor government. 30 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: At this election. Choose your Liberal or National candidate so 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: that we can get this great country that we love 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: back on track. 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 6: That is the Australian way, that is the Labor way, 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 6: and that is the choice. I'm asking the Australian paintball, 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 6: so mate on the third of May. 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: On Sunday, Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi and Opposition leader Peter 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: Dutton launched the official election campaigns of the Labor and 38 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Liberal parties ahead of the vote on May three. But 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: hang on a minute, weren't they already campaigning. 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: We've been campaigning for months. Really. 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: Dennis Shanahan is The Australian's national editor. 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: The reason that they have a campaign launch is to 43 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: gain some momentum. There is also a small technical detail 44 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 4: in that the taxpayer funds the campaign up until the 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: campaign launch, and what has happened of late is that 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 4: the campaign launch has occurred in the last week of 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: the campaign and this term, because of the Easter and 48 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 4: Antik Day holidays, they're both having it early. They've both 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: had it on the same day. It's very rare to 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: have both campaign launchers on the same day. But the 51 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: Easter holidays is really putting pressure on both sides to 52 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 4: come out a bit earlier, and so the Coalition, realizing 53 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: Labor was coming out this weekend, had a little choice 54 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 4: but to come out on the same day. 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: There you go. Do you think that makes our job 56 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: easier or harder? 57 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: It makes it shorter anyway, because we can deal with 58 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: them both in one day. 59 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: The day started with some big policy announcements around taxation. 60 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: One off cost of living tax off said, this will 61 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: reduce the amount of tax paid by millions of Australians 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: and it will be up to twelve hundred dollars. 63 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: Today I announced that a re elected Labor government will 64 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: create a new one thousand dollars instant tax deduction. No paperwork, 65 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: no box of reriscins, eat, no scrolling through your online 66 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: banking and housing. 67 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: A new policy for first home buyers who purchase a 68 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: newly built property to live in a coalition government will 69 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: allow you to deduct interest payments on the first six 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dollars of a mortgage against your 71 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: taxable income. We will allow these deductions for five years 72 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: provided you continue to live in that home for that period. 73 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: You'll be able to buy your first home with just 74 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: a five percent deposit and you won't have to pay 75 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: a single dollar in mortgage insurance. 76 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: Our government will cover it. 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: And ten billion dollars to build one hundred thousand new 78 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: homes reserved for first home buyers only, no competition from 79 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: property investors, just a fair crack for young Australians. 80 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: And it was those competing housing policies that really got 81 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: people riled up. 82 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: Probably better politics than they are policy. There is no 83 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: doubt that the housing crisis is a crisis and that 84 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: younger people particularly feel like they are shut out. Australians 85 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: historically have high rates of home ownership. It is an 86 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: Australian dream and there has been a breakdown in the 87 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: generations of late where people because of the high cost 88 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: of real estate the high prices, the actual pressure from 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 4: the lending institutions. It has been much more difficult for 90 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: young people to buy a house, mainly because of the 91 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: supply of houses, which drives up the price. So what 92 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 4: we saw today from both sides was aimed at younger buyers. 93 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: Now the government approach actually pushes up demand. So in 94 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: a simple real estate world, that's not such a good idea. Now. 95 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: Coupled with that was the labor proposal to build more 96 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: homes which would be specifically targeted at first home buyers. Now, 97 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 4: again this sounds good. The problem is that the government's 98 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: promises on how building have failed. They have not been 99 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: able to build anywhere near the number of houses they 100 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: said they would. And yet Anthony Albernes's launch is talking 101 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: about what we have done, what we have achieved. It 102 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: seems that the promises on housing are essentially more of 103 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 4: the same, targeted at young people with probably even less 104 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: chance of success. So I think that politically, yes, it's 105 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: appealing to young people, but economically and in a market sense, 106 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: it's probably not going to help. Peter Dutton's alternative is 107 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: to also offer ten billion help and provide help to 108 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: first home buyers. Also though he takes a slightly different 109 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: view and saying that we are going to provide five 110 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: billion to help count's cut regulation. Now this actually is 111 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: sensible policy because it actually says we're not going to 112 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: finance land. What Peter Dutton is talking about is saying 113 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: we're going to try and make it easier for developers 114 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: and for counsels to make more land available address supply. 115 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: And now that is better, but still the promises with 116 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: all the billions and so forth, probably is only going 117 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: to push up demand as well. The other aspect of 118 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: all of this, both of them are talking about the 119 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: bank of Mum and Dad. Now the bank of Mum 120 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: and Dad is the baby boomers and Gen X, So 121 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: the question is here, what are they offering in housing 122 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: for Gen X and the baby Boomers. 123 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you wrote for The Australian that this narrative that 124 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: we've all brought into about young voters being millennials and 125 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: Gen Z out numbering older vote is from the baby 126 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: boomer generation for the first time is actually inaccurate because 127 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: it's written gen X out of the equation entirely. The 128 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: housing policies pitched by both Labor and the Coalition are 129 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: presumably pitched at that younger cohort. So are they vote 130 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: winners do you think? And if so, are they election 131 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: winners if gen X hasn't been factored in. 132 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: My wife made this point, and we're baby boomers and 133 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: we have children and grandchildren in every generation right through 134 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: to alpha or most mini alphas. And the point is 135 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: that just to appeal to one group is a bit blind, 136 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: because baby boomers an ex generation who will say I 137 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: want to help the young people and I will vote 138 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: for what I think will help them, particularly the bank 139 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: of Mum and Dad, as Peter Dutton puts it. So 140 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 4: there are cross generational appeals. But at this stage, as 141 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: far as the housing is concerned, most of the emphasis 142 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: from both parties has been on the younger voters because 143 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 4: of the housing crisis. It's part of a general emphasis 144 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 4: on younger voters. But I think overall the Labor Party 145 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: and the Liberal Party have started to push the housing 146 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: crisis too much towards the young Australians. 147 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Labour knows this dance around housing all too well. The 148 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Prime Minister's predecessor, Bill Shorten lost what was widely considered 149 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: an unlosable election thanks to a fumble on franking credits 150 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: and an attempt to limit negative gearing. 151 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: The problem for Anthony Albernasi is that he wants to 152 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: appeal to the younger voters, those who have maybe attracted 153 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: the Greens particularly. At the same time, he is absolutely 154 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: denying that he's going to adopt any of the Green 155 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: policy on inheritance, on capital gains tax and negative gearing 156 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 4: because he knows who's all of those older voters are 157 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: going to be turned off by that and it did 158 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: shift the election that Bill Shorten lost in. Anthony Albenese 159 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: knows that he's got to balance it, and so he's 160 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: got to try and a get Green preferences to win 161 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: seats and say I'm not going to adopt Green's policies. 162 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: And at the same time, Peter Dutton is saying the 163 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 4: Greens are against everything that we stand for, but they 164 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: also stand for inheritance tax, changes, the superannuation capital gains 165 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: tax and changes the negative gearing. So he is locking 166 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: Anthony Alberenes in with the Greens, handcuffing them together on 167 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: unpopular policies for older Australians. 168 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Coming up. The political calculus of both major parties was 169 00:10:51,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: on display on Sunday the coalition's election campaign officially kicked 170 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: off in the seat of Werrower, where Liberal and National 171 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: MPs pumped up the party's credentials in Western Sydney. 172 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to Western Sydney, the heartland of the Liberal Party. 173 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: A fitting place to launch our vision for Australia because 174 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: the history of our country has been written here. 175 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: Werrower is currently held by Labours and Stanley, and the 176 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: party has deep roots there. It's been held by the 177 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: ALP since nineteen thirty four, including by former pm GoF Whitlam. 178 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: But Labour's pitch was made on the other side of 179 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: the country in Perth, making it the thirteenth visit by 180 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi to Western Australia in this term. 181 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Premier Roger Cook, still basking in the glory of an 182 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: historic state election victory, he didn't miss his opportunity to 183 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: have a friendly dig at the PM for his near 184 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: constant presence. 185 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 5: Now Around three years ago, Anthony Albanezi and the Federal 186 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 5: Labor team convened here in Perth to launch their campaign, 187 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: and to be honest, he's barely been away ever since. 188 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: But this is no mistake. WA was instrumental in delivering 189 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: Labor to government in twenty twenty two, a record it's 190 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: hoping to repeat on May three. 191 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: Every one of us felling a strange feature together. 192 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: This is a defensive move. He has to hold on 193 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 4: to those seats. He may be in trouble in New 194 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: South Wales and certainly in Victoria, so he cannot afford 195 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: to lose seats in Western Australia. There was some view 196 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: to begin with that the Labor Party was in trouble 197 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: in Western Australia, that there'd be a big difference between 198 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,239 Speaker 4: federal and state. I think that the polling is suggesting 199 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: that's not so much the case. 200 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: And what about Peter Dutton and the coalition in the 201 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Western Sydney seat of Werrowa. There was a lot of 202 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: retoric from Liberal MPs around that region being a liberal heartland, 203 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: despite history suggesting otherwise. Was that a good choice? 204 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: Oh, it really was the only choice. Brisbane is Dutton's 205 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: home state. It is very strong for the LNP and 206 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: so it would have been a bit of a wasted 207 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 4: launch to have it in Queensland and suburban Sydney has 208 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: always been the heart of Dutton's campaign, so it made 209 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: absolute sense for them to launch in Western Sydney, the 210 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: fact that it was a very aggressive move in the 211 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 4: seat of Werrower, the old seat of Gough Whitlam. It 212 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: is one that the Coalition has hopes of picking up. 213 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: And what Peter Dutton is trying to get back to 214 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: was that it was the home of the Howard Sattlers. 215 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: And of course in nineteen ninety six John Howard was 216 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: swept to power by the strength of the vote in 217 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: Western Sydney. And when the Liberal Party can do well 218 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: in Western Sydney, it does well nationally. And that's why 219 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: they've got such high hopes in Western Sydney. 220 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: That's why we called you in to be there. 221 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly all the way from Camber. 222 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Dennis Shanahan is The Australian's National editor. You can read 223 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: all our experts, reporting and analysis from the campaign trail 224 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: anytime at the Australian dot com dot au