1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Get a welcome to the show, Osha Ginzberg. Here, this 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: is better than yesterday. Thanks for listening. If you are 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: listening to this in five years from now, you probably 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: know this already, but in case you don't know, I 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: said yes to participating in the tent pole reality television 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: show Dancing with the Stars, and we have recently started shooting. 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: You won't see it until about August, but I don't 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: want to talk about it then because I'll probably forget 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: the nuance and the detail of how it feels. 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Now. 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm not going to reveal anything, but I am 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: going to tell you what I've been going through because 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: it has been incredibly fascinating. We've only just started shooting 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the episodes, but there's a lot to go through, so 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: we'll get to that right after this break. Hey, thanks 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: so much for this the show. This is better than yesterday, 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: making it better every single week since twenty thirteen. 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: My name Josha Ginsberg. I'm glad you're here. 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: There are still some very few but some tickets left 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: for the next Story Club Live Show, which is a 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: live comedy storytelling show that we do every month in Sydney. 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Our guests are Richard Glover, deb Oswall, Josh Zepps, Nikiir Luise, 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Zoe not In Lodge, and myself. 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: We will be telling stories about the lesser of two evils. 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: I'll put the link in the show notes for the tickets. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, sometime late last year, I said 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: yes to participating in the reality TV show Classic Dancing 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: with the Stars. Now, why did I do this? 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: Not for the money. 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that they're paying me, don't worry, but 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: it's not the kind of money you get for hosting 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: things like that. I'm doing it because, you know me, 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of seeking out humility and accessing 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: humility in a safe way, because my ego can run 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: the show sometimes and it's important to keep one's ego 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: in its right place and right size. I've also had 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: three hip replacements, and I'm physically incapable of doing it, 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: and so I thought, you know what, that's a decent challenge. 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm fifty. I'm going to say yes to that. 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Like, this's a big physical challenge at fifty, and certainly 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: with someone who's got a gluten mead, which is the 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: muscle that controls rotation in one leg, that doesn't really work, 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: and the other reason, in fact, the bigger reason for it, 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: is that I've known Georgia, my stepdaughter, since she was 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: ten and very rapidly not only became a stepfather but 46 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: also a dance dad. 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: And I have lugged weely luggage bags full. 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Of costumes across convention centers all over this country and 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: gone to Stedford's and recitals and graduations. I've seen it all, 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: and I know how hard it is and how much 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: work is involved in achieving mastery in this discipline. And 52 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I really wanted to dance for Georgia. I wanted to 53 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: dance to be honest that the love that I have 54 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: for this incredible human being that has meant so much 55 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: to me, it means so much to me, changed my life. 56 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: And I got a chance to do that the other night. 57 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: She came to the audience and she watched me dance, 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: and it was really, really, really beautiful. But it took 59 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: Georgia years to get You know, when she finishes a move, 60 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: so your arms out to one side, for your arms 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: not flap around like a piece of spaghetti. Right. It 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: takes a long time to get sharp because it takes 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: huge amounts of strength to be able to hold your 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: limbs still at their extremities in a sharp dance maneuver. 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: But I'm yet Trying to do this in weeks is 66 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: unspeakably difficult to do. But that's what I wanted it for. 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm somebody who has kept the momentum of the mastery 68 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: that I started achieving in radio when I was in 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: my early twenties and just kind of kept push that 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: forward with a bit more effort and kept changing up gears, 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: up gears, up gears without ever losing that momentum in 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: my career and my learning to keep building on what 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: it is that I've learned before, and because of that, 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: I was able to achieve a lot and have been 75 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: able and still achieve a lot. But I'm starting from 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: absolutely zero here. My dance teacher, Strianne, she's incredible. She 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: has a three year old daughter. The first day I 78 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: met her, she has what are you doing? So I'm 79 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out my spins and I just couldn't 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: do it and she goes, oh, like this, and she 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: did one perfect. 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: I said, how do you do that? She's three? And 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: she says, lots of practice, so three year olds are 84 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: better this than me. 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: And it is immensely frustrating because my body doesn't do 86 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. Getting out on set, though, 87 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: is another thing altogether. 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: I'm on this show. 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: There's twelve people that participate and twelve professional dancers that 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: take them through it. And they're twelve people who have 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: all achieved mastery and their chosen careers and professions athletics 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: and business and entertainment and comedy. Stepping out on set 93 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: for them, all of it has changed from the dance 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: studio to the TV studio. 95 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: All of it is foreign. 96 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Yet for me, I'm training in the same dance school 97 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: Georgia used to do fourteen hours a week in. One 98 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: of the people that works on the show is her 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: old dance teacher. I am making this show in the 100 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: same building with the same people that I made five 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: seasons of Mask Singer with and Idol. I'm making the 102 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: show with the person that I made three seasons of 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: The Bachelor with. When they go to work, everything is different. 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: When I go to work, everything is exactly the same. 105 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: It's the same space, it's the same building, it's the 106 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: same microphones as the same audio people, the same camera operators. 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Everything is exactly the same. Except for me, and it's really, 108 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: really weird. I didn't realize until I got out there 109 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: and we started doing the first in just a rehearsal right, 110 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: someone's filming us with a phonecause they're figuring out what 111 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: camera shots going to take. And we go charging down 112 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: to the spot and we turn around and straight away 113 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm in the wrong place. I'm in 114 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: the wrong place, and I didn't realize why, and I 115 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: started trying to almost shove us back to a different 116 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: spot on the floor. Because in the same way, if 117 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: you've ever driven a manual car, if you're younger, you 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: probably never have. But if you drive a motorcycle or 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: ride a bicycle, you'll know there's a point where you 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: change gears, right, and after a while you stop thinking 121 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: about where you change gears. 122 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: It just happens, right. So similarly, when you work in. 123 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Live television, and I came up through your life television, 124 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: you come to know little things like the camera see 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: me at all times? And am I lit at all times? 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: Like do I have a clear line of sight to 127 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: the camera lens? And I am I lit? And you 128 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: do that by you essentially find what's called a key light. 129 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: So there's like a background routine that runs in the 130 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: back of my head making sure that at all times 131 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I have one kind of shiny key light caught in 132 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: my eye. And so we're on the dance floor. In 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: my head is like, oh, we're in the wrong place. 134 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: And I started to almost Dragstrianne the other way, just 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: like where are you going? 136 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: And it wasn't until afterwards and I realized, oh, I 137 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: lost a key light. 138 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I lost a key lot, and I realized I was 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I was in shadow, and that's you know, don't do that. 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: And another thing happened. 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: We were doing a different one and we start, you know, 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: the music starts, the playback starts, and we start charging 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: down the thing. And say, for example, we're supposed to 144 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: come halfway down the dance floor, we end up all 145 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: the way to the end. 146 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: We've run out a room. 147 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: Because I've got all these other moves to play in 148 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: that direction, but now we've got no room. And it 149 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: was only after its like, why we all the way 150 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: down here? How did I Why didn't I take such 151 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: big steps? Why did I keep moving it? Take more 152 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: steps than I should have taken because the steady cam 153 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: was over my shoulder. John o the hardest working out 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: on the floor. Steady cam operator. You've seen it. It's 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: like the big one that they kind of strapped to themselves. 156 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: It's not a sprung arm and it kind of floats 157 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: in front of them. It's a very steady shot. You 158 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: see them running up and down the side of the 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: field at the footy. So Steady's over my shoulder, but 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Steady keeps moving towards me. Now in the back of 161 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: my head, if Steady's moving towards me and I'm not 162 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: looking straight out Steady, then I'm in Steady's way and 163 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I've got to. 164 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: Get out of Steady's way. Say Steady can get his shot. 165 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: So Steady keeps coming, and I keep moving and moving 166 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: and moving and moving, thinking I'm trying like I'm in 167 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: the way. 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm in the way. 169 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: The camera is trying to get a shot of something, 170 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: and they keep coming at me. So I've got to 171 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: keep diving out away. Oh hang on, I'm the shot. 172 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: And it's been so interesting. That's just two examples. There's 173 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: heaps of others of me trying to have to shut 174 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: down these automatic subroutines that run when I'm out on 175 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: the shiny floor because as I said, it looks and 176 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: smells and is full of everybody that I've ever worked with, 177 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: and it is immensely frustrating. But one thing that I'm 178 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: grateful I've been practicing a lot of and you know 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: me I talk about it is noticing, and it's the 180 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: self awareness that has really helped me, really helped me 181 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: be able to handle these situations in the moment, going 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: why I'm my way up here? Also just little things 183 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: like huh, fascinating, my hands are shaking. Oh, my right 184 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: knee it's unstable when I step on it. Huh, that's interesting. 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: So I'm no longer now crushed with immense nervousness, and 186 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: now I can go back to thinking about what steps 187 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I have to take and where I'm going and what 188 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing. I was telling my son about it, but 189 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: he's just started school, and you know, it's not uncommon 190 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: for the little kids to be a bit wobbly about 191 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: going to school every day. And we were talking about 192 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: how to handle things when you're a bit scared, and 193 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: I was telling him straight I was like, oh, I 194 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: was really scared at work yesterday. I was really scared, 195 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: but I was aware that I was scared and I 196 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: knew what. 197 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: To do, and he said, like what happens? 198 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: And so, for example, like we finished one dance and 199 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: the creative director is there on set. It's Kelly Abby 200 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: who did all of the dancing and happy feed. She's 201 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: an astounding woman, incredible woman. And her assistance Sarah, and 202 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: they come up to be after this rehearsal and their 203 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: mouths are moving, the sound going out, but I just 204 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: coun't process it. I can't process it. And I said 205 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: to Wolfgang, so I just said, I'm just going to 206 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: get a drink. He was asking, how do you calm 207 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: down without people knowing that you're not calm? I said, 208 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I said, I'm just going to get a drink. 209 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: I said. 210 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: I walk four steps, grab my water bottle, had to drink, 211 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: took a breath, took another breath, walked back, and by 212 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: the time I got back, I was able to hear 213 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: their words, but initially I wasn't. As far as lessons 214 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: learned about it, there's a few others I'll talk about 215 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: that just a set because they do have to take 216 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: a break back and it's like, thanks for listening. This 217 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: is the contractually aligned non disclosure agreement version of me. 218 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: Talking about what it's like to currently be on dancing 219 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: with this, because I'm in the middle of it right now. 220 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: I'm leaving to the studio in about twenty minutes from 221 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: now for another one. If I don't keep on top 222 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: of it, the anxiety can crush me, and I've found 223 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: that a few times self awareness has been the only 224 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: way I can get through it. That almost the radical 225 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: self awareness of trying to be as really really clued 226 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: into what's happening with my body, what's happening with my brain, 227 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: and being just that's fascinating. 228 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: It feels like I'm. 229 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: Looking at the world through a toilet roll with one eye, 230 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Like everything shuts down that much that I can't actually 231 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: understand anything else that's happening right now. 232 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting? 233 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Or I know all the footwork that I've got to 234 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: do here, but at this point I cannot access any 235 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: of it. If you ask me to describe the names 236 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: for the dance steps, which I know, I can't tell 237 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: them to you, that wild my memory is completely blanked 238 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: of what it is that I have to do here. 239 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: That is really interesting because if if I do that, 240 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: then I can make a better choice rather than oh shit, 241 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember it fuction, and then I'm in an 242 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: avalanche of fear. Right, however, if I'm aware of it, 243 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: and I'm able to do the next right thing, which 244 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: is take a breath and ask for help. Oh it 245 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: wasn't interesting. I've completely forgotten he's Ronnie. What's her first step? 246 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 247 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: It's really hard to have my ego just flattened and 248 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: smashed like a potato, because I want to be way 249 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: way better at it than I am. It's really interesting 250 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: getting feedback from the judges. I'll talk more about that later. 251 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: But I respect my step daugh to Georgia just way 252 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: too much to phone this in. Too much respect for her, 253 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: too much respect for all these people I've worked with 254 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: my entire career, too much respect for shiny floor television 255 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: to phone it in. I'm not going to phone it in. 256 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm working my absolute nuts off, and it's still not 257 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: good enough. I watch videos back of myself. I think 258 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: I've nailed it, and I watch it back and I'm like, 259 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: why does it look like I'm kicking off a gum boot? 260 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: Why does it look like I'm waving goodbye from a 261 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: leaving car rather than like the super sharp arm. 262 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: That's slicing the air in two, which it's supposed to be. 263 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm just in absolute surrender, not like I get up, 264 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: but just surrender to that is what it is. 265 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: That is where my body is right now. 266 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Everything hurts and I don't have the recovery time to 267 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: get in front of it. There's no time for that. 268 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm working every day. I'm training six eight hours a day. 269 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn so much. My brain gets full 270 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: before my body gets tired. It's so so, so humbling, 271 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: yet showing up and giving it everything, even in the 272 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: face of it's an elimination show, and I know at 273 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: some point I'm going to go. 274 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to fucking go. But much like when. 275 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: I spoke to you about practicing losing the LOGI, which 276 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: is an interesting episode, and interesting particularly because I'm standing 277 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: next to on set the lady that won at that night. 278 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: She's great, it's on your creaker, she's cool. I might 279 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: have gone into this going yeah, there's a chance I 280 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: might win it. The chance is that I'm going to 281 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: not win it. What I get to learn, how I 282 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: get to grow from being so defeated and willingly, willingly 283 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: going there every day to be not as good as 284 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: I want to be, who I get to become because 285 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: of this amount of humility and this amount of pruning 286 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: of the ego. 287 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can. 288 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: See it right now because I'm too in it, but 289 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for the opportunity. I remember to tell 290 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Georgia when she was going for HC. I said, only 291 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: you know how hard you've worked to make your dreams 292 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: come true. Knowing what success looks like is really important. 293 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: Success might not be holding a mirrorbor trophy. I don't 294 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: think it's going to be success. I think would be 295 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: proving to myself and other people who have had the 296 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: kind of surgeries that I've had and live with a 297 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: kind of pain I do that I can't stop you. 298 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Success can be showing my kids that even in the 299 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: face of and immense humility being thrust upon you, that 300 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: I can still have dignity. 301 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: And success is to be honest, guys. 302 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Success is doing this because I want to do a 303 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: thing that Georgia can very very closely relate to, but 304 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: she knows the kind of work it takes. I want 305 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: to show her what she means to me in many ways, 306 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: she means so much to me, and I'm going to 307 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: cry talking about what it's like to have watched her 308 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: dance and express herself with her physicality. 309 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to be able to 310 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: achieve that. I'm trying. That's why I'm doing. 311 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to go through the rest of my life 312 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: differently after this. So if there's something that comes your 313 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: way that's real hard, real hard, I reckon say yes 314 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: to it. Thanks for listening. I hope you come to 315 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: the Story Club show. I'll tell a story not about this, 316 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: but about something else. It's next weekend of the Factory Theater. 317 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: The tickets are in the show notes. I'm so sore. 318 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: I cannot sleep enough, and i cannot eat enough. And 319 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: my Theoro guns a run out of batteries. I've got 320 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: two thorough guns, and they run out of batteries. I've 321 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: got one to the other. Everything hurts, but I know 322 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: there's growth in there that I shall report back on. 323 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: Have a wonderful week. I'll see your Wednesday.