1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Appod Shape Production. Welcome back to another episode about I 2 00:00:25,161 --> 00:00:27,841 Speaker 1: Bad Mum podcast, a podcast where we bitch about our 3 00:00:28,001 --> 00:00:34,241 Speaker 1: kids for ten minutes. That's not my kids, honestly, just 4 00:00:34,281 --> 00:00:36,201 Speaker 1: think that. They're like, what are you gonna talk about 5 00:00:36,241 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: that on your podcast? Because I'll write notes every now 6 00:00:38,521 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: and then. I'm like, oh, that's a perfect topic for 7 00:00:40,241 --> 00:00:42,241 Speaker 1: the podcast. And they're like, oh, the podcast where you 8 00:00:42,281 --> 00:00:44,841 Speaker 1: just bitch and moan about you kids saying bad things 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: about us? 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,361 Speaker 2: What do you want us to do? Say good things? 11 00:00:47,601 --> 00:00:48,961 Speaker 1: Yes, will be good. 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, then show me the money. Guys. 13 00:00:52,921 --> 00:00:55,241 Speaker 2: The other part of it is, Katie, we do love 14 00:00:55,241 --> 00:01:00,241 Speaker 2: our children. We just have moments of parenting that come up, 15 00:01:00,601 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: like every other person that is doing this thing called parenting, 16 00:01:04,641 --> 00:01:06,401 Speaker 2: that you you just need to speak about because it 17 00:01:06,401 --> 00:01:10,001 Speaker 2: gives some relevance to other people. Yeah, because like sometimes 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: you'll say stuff and I'll go, ah, yeah, I get it, 19 00:01:14,321 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: except I'm not as laid down the track. I'm earlier 20 00:01:17,801 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: in that sort of spin of it. Two girls are 21 00:01:21,121 --> 00:01:24,561 Speaker 2: all to come, and it's the same with like moms 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: with the boys. They've got the same sort of stuff. 23 00:01:27,321 --> 00:01:30,601 Speaker 2: It's just on a higher level. Yeah, the boys are 24 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:33,241 Speaker 2: harder at the younger age. They get easier on the 25 00:01:33,321 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: later stage. That's what most of the mums that I 26 00:01:35,441 --> 00:01:38,681 Speaker 2: know they've got boys, they put in the hard yards early, 27 00:01:39,161 --> 00:01:42,241 Speaker 2: whereas we've had a good start and then ours gets 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,281 Speaker 2: harder with the hormones coming in. 29 00:01:44,481 --> 00:01:50,081 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe was a high speed car chase in our 30 00:01:50,161 --> 00:01:53,441 Speaker 1: area the other night, and when I googled it the 31 00:01:53,481 --> 00:01:56,041 Speaker 1: next day, it was a fifteen year old boy. He 32 00:01:56,121 --> 00:02:00,801 Speaker 1: was being chased by a police helicopter and a police 33 00:02:00,881 --> 00:02:02,281 Speaker 1: obviously car. 34 00:02:03,321 --> 00:02:06,441 Speaker 2: He must be a really good driver for fifteen. That's 35 00:02:06,481 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: my girl's age. I know what's with that question is yeah, 36 00:02:10,801 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: but my question is where are the parents. Yeah, these 37 00:02:13,641 --> 00:02:16,241 Speaker 2: children that are running around loose, they've got parents. 38 00:02:16,601 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: Your solution to it was perfect that we should all 39 00:02:19,841 --> 00:02:21,001 Speaker 1: just buy manual cars. 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,001 Speaker 2: One percent going to get stolen. Trust me if it's 41 00:02:25,001 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: a manual, because these little ships don't know how to 42 00:02:26,921 --> 00:02:29,601 Speaker 2: drive manuals. I ain't going out and getting their license 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,881 Speaker 2: and going, hey, I need an auto and emmanual. Why 44 00:02:31,921 --> 00:02:33,601 Speaker 2: because I want to steal cars for the rest of 45 00:02:33,601 --> 00:02:42,761 Speaker 2: my life. Flogs. 46 00:02:45,601 --> 00:02:50,001 Speaker 1: Am I mad mum for calling someone else's kid an asshole? 47 00:02:50,361 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: Standard? No? I don't call other people's kids assholes, often. 48 00:02:57,441 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: Not to their faces. This incident was this morning. Actually, 49 00:03:03,041 --> 00:03:06,121 Speaker 1: I was driving into work and and when I haven't 50 00:03:06,161 --> 00:03:09,041 Speaker 1: got kids in the car, like I either like to, 51 00:03:09,201 --> 00:03:12,241 Speaker 1: depending on my mood, listen to a podcast or listen 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,321 Speaker 1: to music. Depends on whether I want to be thoughtful 53 00:03:16,441 --> 00:03:20,481 Speaker 1: and have some inspiration for the day, or whether I 54 00:03:20,641 --> 00:03:24,801 Speaker 1: just want to be at retro's listening to the nineties 55 00:03:25,481 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: dance hits. 56 00:03:27,001 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Just needing a little bit of a sensory overload to 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: get you through the morning, make me feel young again, Yeah, 58 00:03:31,561 --> 00:03:32,321 Speaker 2: totally get it. 59 00:03:32,401 --> 00:03:36,401 Speaker 1: So yeah, driving in I enjoy driving by myself. Yeah, 60 00:03:36,481 --> 00:03:38,481 Speaker 1: I get it a bit a piece and choiet, get 61 00:03:38,561 --> 00:03:41,601 Speaker 1: your phone calls done, that kind of stuff. And the 62 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:45,121 Speaker 1: car in front of me, obviously there's some kids. You 63 00:03:45,121 --> 00:03:47,321 Speaker 1: can see kids in the back because you know they're 64 00:03:47,321 --> 00:03:49,561 Speaker 1: in car seats, but you know they're kind of shit 65 00:03:50,161 --> 00:03:54,281 Speaker 1: shit gothers, arms and legs and shit. I mean, I 66 00:03:54,321 --> 00:03:56,121 Speaker 1: didn't see it, but I'm sure at some point there 67 00:03:56,121 --> 00:03:58,881 Speaker 1: was the old reach around from the mum grabbing an ankle. 68 00:03:59,241 --> 00:04:03,561 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I see a shoe 69 00:04:03,841 --> 00:04:07,721 Speaker 1: thrown out the window, and you could see it's a 70 00:04:07,761 --> 00:04:10,721 Speaker 1: small kid's shoe that's been thrown out of the window. 71 00:04:11,481 --> 00:04:14,761 Speaker 1: My instant reaction is, oh, my goodness, Like, that's a 72 00:04:14,841 --> 00:04:16,801 Speaker 1: shoe you've been thrown out, and then I've run over 73 00:04:16,841 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: it because we can't right behind, and I didn't realize 74 00:04:20,321 --> 00:04:22,281 Speaker 1: that the shoe was going to come flying out the window. 75 00:04:22,761 --> 00:04:24,961 Speaker 1: And then I've run over the shoe and then I've 76 00:04:25,001 --> 00:04:27,361 Speaker 1: like looked in my mirror behind I'm like, oh, that 77 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:32,641 Speaker 1: shoes ruined now. But my instant thought was you are 78 00:04:32,681 --> 00:04:37,721 Speaker 1: an asshole. That kid's an asshole because that mom has 79 00:04:37,801 --> 00:04:42,401 Speaker 1: gone out and she has spent her money on your 80 00:04:42,521 --> 00:04:46,001 Speaker 1: shoes so that you can do whatever you wherever you're going, 81 00:04:46,161 --> 00:04:49,921 Speaker 1: KINDI park whatever, so you can do that shit because 82 00:04:49,921 --> 00:04:52,361 Speaker 1: you've got shoes on. Now you've just thrown a shoe 83 00:04:52,361 --> 00:04:53,001 Speaker 1: out the window. 84 00:04:53,601 --> 00:04:58,801 Speaker 2: Made me feel really sad, maybe feel sad angry. Pulled 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: up and that was my kid thrown their shoe out 86 00:05:01,561 --> 00:05:05,001 Speaker 2: the window. Yeah, that's our windows have got locks these days. 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,081 Speaker 2: Just lock it, lock it page those animals in agent. 88 00:05:10,001 --> 00:05:12,721 Speaker 2: Don't let them throw their clothes out of the I 89 00:05:12,801 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: don't think I've ever seen that, and no, I've not 90 00:05:15,281 --> 00:05:16,961 Speaker 2: even experienced that as a parent. 91 00:05:17,081 --> 00:05:20,161 Speaker 1: This was a small child, obviously I could see. 92 00:05:19,921 --> 00:05:24,681 Speaker 2: The or like a sibling. I threw it a sibling 93 00:05:24,761 --> 00:05:28,161 Speaker 2: straight away. Maybe it was stuck in the middle of 94 00:05:28,201 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: the two car seats. Imagine that, right, Oh, you little prick, 95 00:05:31,161 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw it out the window. You're 96 00:05:32,801 --> 00:05:35,521 Speaker 2: going to get in trouble from mum for throwing yours 97 00:05:35,521 --> 00:05:36,681 Speaker 2: at it, Do you know what I mean? 98 00:05:36,921 --> 00:05:40,001 Speaker 1: Either way, there was a kid in the car that 99 00:05:40,121 --> 00:05:43,761 Speaker 1: was an asshole, that was like, I don't care about 100 00:05:43,961 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: mum's money and the fact that she went out and 101 00:05:46,241 --> 00:05:50,121 Speaker 1: bought these shoes for my brother or for me. It's 102 00:05:50,161 --> 00:05:56,761 Speaker 1: a complete disregard for you and your time and your 103 00:05:57,081 --> 00:06:01,801 Speaker 1: hard work, anything which never changes. Rach. Honestly, we talk 104 00:06:01,841 --> 00:06:05,481 Speaker 1: about the things we should and shouldn't do as parents, 105 00:06:05,521 --> 00:06:07,801 Speaker 1: and we talk about the fact that a child psychologist 106 00:06:07,801 --> 00:06:10,401 Speaker 1: will often say do it differently. We talk about the 107 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,041 Speaker 1: ninety second rule, wait and have a think before you react. 108 00:06:14,721 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: I cried the other day when one of the girls 109 00:06:18,481 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: was in the shower. This was like a fake cry, 110 00:06:21,561 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: but I was like, at the end of my teller, 111 00:06:24,201 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to get this into their heads, 112 00:06:26,761 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: and I pretended to start crying, and she's like, what 113 00:06:30,401 --> 00:06:33,561 Speaker 1: are you crying about? I was like, you've taken so 114 00:06:33,801 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: long in this shower. I can't afford the electricity bill. 115 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: Did they just laugh or just say oh god, Mom's 116 00:06:42,081 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: lost again. 117 00:06:43,041 --> 00:06:46,321 Speaker 1: She's like stared at me, like serious, are you really 118 00:06:46,361 --> 00:06:50,001 Speaker 1: crying over the electricity bill or the water bill? The 119 00:06:50,001 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: fact that I'm having a long shower. And then in 120 00:06:52,561 --> 00:06:55,721 Speaker 1: my own head, I'm going, are you really pretending to 121 00:06:55,841 --> 00:07:01,361 Speaker 1: cry to try and get her to have a shorter shower? 122 00:07:01,801 --> 00:07:03,721 Speaker 2: Maybe you just need to put like one of those 123 00:07:03,761 --> 00:07:06,441 Speaker 2: time caps on the hot water system. I don't know 124 00:07:06,481 --> 00:07:07,641 Speaker 2: if you can do this anymore. 125 00:07:08,401 --> 00:07:11,841 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get them from Bunnings. But my hesitation 126 00:07:12,001 --> 00:07:15,641 Speaker 1: on that is that that's the shower that guests will 127 00:07:15,721 --> 00:07:16,921 Speaker 1: use if they come to stay. 128 00:07:17,001 --> 00:07:20,841 Speaker 2: Well, you've only got five minutes. Sorry, you don't get 129 00:07:20,841 --> 00:07:25,041 Speaker 2: longer than that. Sorry, our guests that stay five minutes. Yeah, 130 00:07:25,041 --> 00:07:27,321 Speaker 2: but you if it's easily to put on, it's easy 131 00:07:27,321 --> 00:07:27,881 Speaker 2: to remove. 132 00:07:28,521 --> 00:07:30,921 Speaker 1: We time our showers in this house. 133 00:07:31,801 --> 00:07:34,121 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. Let's just roll with that. 134 00:07:34,401 --> 00:07:36,441 Speaker 1: My auntie came and stayed a couple of years ago, 135 00:07:36,481 --> 00:07:39,361 Speaker 1: and she's really old school in that she has baths 136 00:07:39,481 --> 00:07:42,881 Speaker 1: a lot o water bill when she left after having 137 00:07:42,881 --> 00:07:45,321 Speaker 1: a bath every day, it's a lot. 138 00:07:45,561 --> 00:07:49,041 Speaker 2: We're sharing one or two. 139 00:07:49,841 --> 00:07:52,841 Speaker 1: Sorry, we tie our showers and the bath can only 140 00:07:52,881 --> 00:07:54,081 Speaker 1: go up to this line. 141 00:07:54,681 --> 00:07:59,441 Speaker 2: Don't feel above that line. I would loll so hard 142 00:07:59,641 --> 00:08:03,121 Speaker 2: if that happened. Oh sorry, you run out of hot water. 143 00:08:03,441 --> 00:08:05,521 Speaker 2: You'll just have to use the bottom. 144 00:08:05,761 --> 00:08:07,681 Speaker 1: Is it okay? If I have a bath, yeah, sure, 145 00:08:07,681 --> 00:08:09,201 Speaker 1: if you want a real shallow. 146 00:08:08,841 --> 00:08:15,921 Speaker 2: One, you can wash your feet in that. 147 00:08:20,561 --> 00:08:24,721 Speaker 1: We're thinking about getting a B day, just use that instead. 148 00:08:26,481 --> 00:08:28,281 Speaker 1: As a kid growing up, we had a B day 149 00:08:28,281 --> 00:08:30,081 Speaker 1: in our house. Do you know what a B day is? 150 00:08:31,321 --> 00:08:33,401 Speaker 1: You wash your bum And I used to wash my 151 00:08:33,441 --> 00:08:35,721 Speaker 1: feet when I was a kid. And you know when 152 00:08:35,761 --> 00:08:39,041 Speaker 1: you start wearing like sneakers and your feet sink because 153 00:08:39,081 --> 00:08:41,561 Speaker 1: you wear them with no socks. Yeah, I never really 154 00:08:41,641 --> 00:08:43,921 Speaker 1: used the B day from my vagina, just my feet. 155 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:49,241 Speaker 2: I was loving because you call it B day? What 156 00:08:49,441 --> 00:08:51,881 Speaker 2: is it? And I thought it was like the day. 157 00:08:54,921 --> 00:08:55,121 Speaker 1: Day? 158 00:08:55,441 --> 00:08:58,121 Speaker 2: So I could be wrong. I could be wrong. But 159 00:08:58,241 --> 00:09:00,081 Speaker 2: now that you're saying that, when I was living in 160 00:09:00,161 --> 00:09:02,681 Speaker 2: the Middle East for those few years, I used to 161 00:09:02,721 --> 00:09:04,321 Speaker 2: do the same thing. Used to wash my feet in 162 00:09:04,361 --> 00:09:07,041 Speaker 2: there when I get from work, because you're coming out 163 00:09:07,041 --> 00:09:09,641 Speaker 2: of your work choose and you're like, whoa, they are gross. 164 00:09:10,041 --> 00:09:13,881 Speaker 2: And that was with stockings, so I would just wash 165 00:09:13,921 --> 00:09:14,521 Speaker 2: my feet in there. 166 00:09:14,841 --> 00:09:15,281 Speaker 1: Yeah. 167 00:09:15,441 --> 00:09:19,241 Speaker 2: I do think that they're actually quite a significant asset 168 00:09:19,441 --> 00:09:22,881 Speaker 2: to one's household when you think about it, like, we're 169 00:09:22,881 --> 00:09:25,161 Speaker 2: one of the only cultures that don't. 170 00:09:25,041 --> 00:09:32,201 Speaker 1: Clean your barm. We just use tissue paper. And really 171 00:09:32,761 --> 00:09:37,001 Speaker 1: that's quite gross, isn't it, because you're just smearing. 172 00:09:36,801 --> 00:09:39,481 Speaker 2: Eating from the same hands that you're wiping your bottom with. 173 00:09:40,161 --> 00:09:43,641 Speaker 1: Also the cleaning of your bum, we're just wiping it. 174 00:09:44,721 --> 00:09:44,841 Speaker 2: You know. 175 00:09:45,041 --> 00:09:47,801 Speaker 1: When we were on holiday, we had a heated toilet seat. 176 00:09:48,561 --> 00:09:51,561 Speaker 2: When you travel to Japan, they've got so many buttons 177 00:09:51,561 --> 00:09:53,641 Speaker 2: on the side of a toilet. You know, you. 178 00:09:55,281 --> 00:10:01,041 Speaker 1: Got hoses. It goes up, it goes sideways. 179 00:10:01,121 --> 00:10:03,441 Speaker 2: I remember taking the kids and I had to go 180 00:10:03,561 --> 00:10:06,801 Speaker 2: to the toilet in order to learn how to use 181 00:10:06,841 --> 00:10:09,121 Speaker 2: the toilet, in order to be able to teach the 182 00:10:09,201 --> 00:10:12,041 Speaker 2: girls how to use the toilet because they looked at 183 00:10:12,081 --> 00:10:14,881 Speaker 2: all these buttons. And we went in ski season, so 184 00:10:14,921 --> 00:10:18,601 Speaker 2: it was freezing, but then that warmth when you sit down. Now, 185 00:10:19,241 --> 00:10:22,081 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, when I sit down. If I 186 00:10:22,201 --> 00:10:25,001 Speaker 2: have to sit down on a toilet seat at Westfield 187 00:10:25,001 --> 00:10:27,321 Speaker 2: and it's warm, I'm fucking off that thing in a 188 00:10:27,441 --> 00:10:32,241 Speaker 2: hot That means somebody has been sitting on that too far, 189 00:10:32,361 --> 00:10:35,641 Speaker 2: too long. But you go to Japan and that seat 190 00:10:35,881 --> 00:10:38,441 Speaker 2: is heated, so it's actually kind of that. You sit 191 00:10:38,481 --> 00:10:39,081 Speaker 2: down and you're. 192 00:10:38,961 --> 00:10:41,041 Speaker 1: Like, oh, I'll sit here for quite a while. This 193 00:10:41,161 --> 00:10:45,281 Speaker 1: is lovely, it's enjoyable toilet It's weird. Who's the thought. 194 00:10:45,081 --> 00:10:48,921 Speaker 2: Even going down that track of talking about kids and 195 00:10:49,281 --> 00:10:52,161 Speaker 2: toilets and wiping the bottom? How many times do you 196 00:10:52,201 --> 00:10:55,641 Speaker 2: have to have the conversation about toilet hygiene with your kids? 197 00:10:56,441 --> 00:10:59,041 Speaker 2: I'm talking all ages and this whole thing of going 198 00:10:59,041 --> 00:11:02,841 Speaker 2: why do you need fourteen squares of paper for one 199 00:11:02,921 --> 00:11:07,601 Speaker 2: Wii fold? Its three or four little squares follow them 200 00:11:07,641 --> 00:11:12,121 Speaker 2: together one Wii. That's plenty. That's not going through that paper, Like, 201 00:11:12,361 --> 00:11:14,921 Speaker 2: just cut back on the usage of the toilet paper, 202 00:11:15,041 --> 00:11:17,681 Speaker 2: not because we're short on toilet paper, but because you're 203 00:11:17,681 --> 00:11:21,361 Speaker 2: clogging the system. And you're like, yay hi, how many 204 00:11:21,401 --> 00:11:24,921 Speaker 2: times are after this conversation with my kids about toilet eyeiene? 205 00:11:25,041 --> 00:11:29,921 Speaker 1: Yeah? Really implicating some bathroom rules in this episode, I 206 00:11:30,001 --> 00:11:35,281 Speaker 1: think so. Bath's are shallow, showers are timed, fold your 207 00:11:35,361 --> 00:11:35,961 Speaker 1: toilet roll. 208 00:11:36,281 --> 00:11:39,801 Speaker 2: Bi days are used for cleaning food for day B 209 00:11:40,041 --> 00:11:43,441 Speaker 2: day Day. Sounds very fancy, even just saying the word. 210 00:11:43,521 --> 00:11:45,561 Speaker 1: It's a fancy thing to have, but all it does 211 00:11:45,681 --> 00:11:47,161 Speaker 1: is shoot water up your asshole.