WEBVTT - Bonus - The Ashley Madison Scandal

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton is sick today, but hopefully he's at home watching

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<v Speaker 1>binge watching, which is what you do when you're sick,

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<v Speaker 1>because I binge watched a show on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen Ashley Madison yet?

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<v Speaker 3>So my wife was watching it the end of last week,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was listening to it in the background while I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was on the laptop.

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<v Speaker 2>So it only dropped last week.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a it's a documentary about the dating site

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Madison, which was a dating website for married people.

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley Madison was ahead of his time.

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<v Speaker 5>The vision was to be the largest and only website

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<v Speaker 5>for married people who wanted to have an affair. When

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<v Speaker 5>I would go to trade shows, would say you know

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<v Speaker 5>who's your biggest competitor, and I'd say the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>So that what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So you signed up if you were married. It was

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<v Speaker 1>free for women to sign up. Men had to pay

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<v Speaker 1>to be members. You could chat, you have to buy

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<v Speaker 1>credits to keep talking. You could chat, you could go

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<v Speaker 1>on dates. You could then do whatever you want. You

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<v Speaker 1>could list all your design and preferences, so people knew

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what they were signing up for.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like quite a niche market.

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<v Speaker 1>They ended up with fifty million users on it went

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<v Speaker 1>world whide all over the world, fifty million.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they said. Anyway, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to remember this was before Tinder, before dating

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<v Speaker 3>apps and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was around like I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ten ish.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember there was that huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Data leak, So all these people had signed up thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that it was they would remain private, but they got

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<v Speaker 1>hacked and they leaked all the details of every single

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<v Speaker 1>person on there. They leaked their personal details, their personal information,

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<v Speaker 1>all their weird desires.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what smart business model. Because they also

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<v Speaker 3>charged people like twenty bucks when you were leaving if

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<v Speaker 3>you want them to wipe all your.

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<v Speaker 2>Data, yeah, which they never actually did.

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<v Speaker 4>They never did, but people paid the money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, thinking some sort of false security in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of their mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And it ruined people's lives. It ruined I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>ruining your own marriage if you're signing up to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Data League all of a sudden because some

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<v Speaker 1>people signed up and never actively used it. They just

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<v Speaker 1>signed up to kind of suss out what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on there, met up with anyone apparently, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just signed up. Just I just wanted to see what

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<v Speaker 3>it was all about. Clicked on Candy's profile. I just

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<v Speaker 3>just wanted to see how many people I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to see the question. Yeahs, you'd have to have it, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to have a profile photo, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these people are posting their photos.

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<v Speaker 3>Surely people are scrolling through going, oh, well, there's Deborah

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<v Speaker 3>for soccer team.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you were both on it, you were both

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be married.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like unspoken I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 1>The weird thing was the way they marketed this website, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because at surface level it's sleazy and gross and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about having affairs and cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>But their TVCs were so unhinged. Listen to how they marketed.

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<v Speaker 4>It other than my wife's right, I'm looking for this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's quite catchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait till.

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<v Speaker 4>Then more guys, everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that's it sounds so cute.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's going to happen now, don't you. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to be humming that in the kitchen tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wife, going to go, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you know me with the brown guy.

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<v Speaker 3>When I hear the ground guy, I add that's all

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<v Speaker 3>I sing when I'm cooking dinner. Now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>be doing bloody pasta tonight looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>So the tv s's made it sound really fun and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a part of that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep down it's just sleazy, Like the whole concept so wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But look in the dockumentary, fifteen million people, it's still

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<v Speaker 2>going post the data.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, if you're signing up to that website now after

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<v Speaker 3>a data breach and you think that it's fully private,

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<v Speaker 3>you are an idiot and you deserve you details out.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think now everything's a bit more public, like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>back then it was before Tinder and the big dating apps,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone just thought it was this underground kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't get me wrong, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that regretted putting their business email and their

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<v Speaker 1>profile picture on it when it was when it was leaked,

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<v Speaker 1>But fifteen million people, there would be people all over

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne who signed up to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny you say that, because coming up next, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a lady who is going to remain anonymous. She is

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<v Speaker 3>hanging on hold, ready to share her story.

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<v Speaker 2>Is she on it?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait till you hear how long she has been on

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<v Speaker 3>it and how long she has been seeing someone from

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<v Speaker 3>the website.

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<v Speaker 4>And still is.

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<v Speaker 3>They are married, they live in Melbourne, and she joins us. Next,

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<v Speaker 3>we are talking about the Ashley Madison docoe that has

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<v Speaker 3>dropped on Netflix. Everyone was watching it over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty hectic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's based around the website Ashley Madison, which was purely

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<v Speaker 3>set up for couples who want.

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<v Speaker 1>To cheat, well not couples, but people who were married

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<v Speaker 1>who are going to have an affair.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I will point out the person who's about to

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<v Speaker 3>join us has asked to remain anonymous. We've put the

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<v Speaker 3>old voice to Coder on them as well. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be like the rest of Melbourne. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>want to judge and rip in, but we we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be judging to try and bite my time.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have promised this person if they come on

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<v Speaker 3>and share their story, we're not going to ridicule them

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<v Speaker 3>and rip in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very uneasy about it. Okay, shall we do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get them on the line. Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So Ashley Madison.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dating site for married people, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>chat and you can meet up with people as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the married people that you spoke to, how many

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<v Speaker 1>of them did you.

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<v Speaker 2>Meet up with?

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<v Speaker 6>Actually meet up with? Only about four?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so then you've met up with four of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still with someone now that you met on

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<v Speaker 1>the website?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>How long has that been going?

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<v Speaker 6>A little over five years?

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<v Speaker 2>Five years?

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus, and they're still married.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and their partner has no idea as far as

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<v Speaker 3>I'm aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you do you have Do you feel guilty

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<v Speaker 2>about that?

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<v Speaker 6>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm going to call you out straight away and go.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't feel that guilty. It's been five years and

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<v Speaker 3>you're still seeing them.

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<v Speaker 6>That's two years you feeling guilty for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Hear this stuff all the time, right? And do you

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<v Speaker 1>like does this man? Is he telling you that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to leave his partner for you? So you're hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that you two will be together properly one day? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are you just happy being a side dish?

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<v Speaker 6>He's not planning to leave and I don't want him to.

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<v Speaker 3>Leave, so you you have no intention of actually getting

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<v Speaker 3>into a relationship with him.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't want a relationship with him at at?

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<v Speaker 4>How often are you catching up with this person once?

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<v Speaker 6>A fortnight and.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is he saying it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's the thing I said, Like my wife and

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<v Speaker 3>I joke around and we're like, oh, like we barely

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<v Speaker 3>see each other.

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<v Speaker 4>I got no time for an affair. Like whereabouts you

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<v Speaker 4>guys seeing each other motal.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're doing this during the day.

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<v Speaker 4>What does his partner think he is?

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<v Speaker 6>We have been doing it during the day mostly, but

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<v Speaker 6>there have been times that we do it on the

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<v Speaker 6>weekends or at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel bad.

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<v Speaker 6>I do? It is purely just the one thing that

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<v Speaker 6>we meet up for.

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<v Speaker 1>If I can't you go and find someone single to

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<v Speaker 1>do that with, Like does he have a family and kids?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I find the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, ikey, can I ask what's the end goal here?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to be in a relationship with this bloke.

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<v Speaker 3>You're out looking for love yourself. Are you going to

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<v Speaker 3>call it off when you finally meet someone or what's

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<v Speaker 3>the plant?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm planning to end it if I find somebody

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<v Speaker 6>that I can be with all the time. And that's

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<v Speaker 6>same goal for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, if you meet the man of your dreams and

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<v Speaker 3>then you find out that he's banging all your mates

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<v Speaker 3>on the side, how would you feel about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously uneasy. Uneasy, he was disappointed, But I definitely would

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<v Speaker 6>kind of understand in a way. But from what I know,

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<v Speaker 6>I've been experienced three.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you a hot tip.

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<v Speaker 3>If you meet the man of your dreams and you

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<v Speaker 3>find out he's doing the dirty I don't think you

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<v Speaker 3>can kind of understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just ask?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like sure you're saying you're only doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing, which is obviously I think she's getting

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<v Speaker 1>off on it a relationship. Yeah, but you must think

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's a pretty average bloke, right, he is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty shitty human to be doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have thought that yet, and you just don't care

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 6>I try not to be emotionally evolved.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how anonymous, Are you getting turned on by this

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<v Speaker 3>bloke in particular, or are you getting turned on by

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<v Speaker 3>the situation?

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<v Speaker 6>I would say would be the first one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that sounds convincing.

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<v Speaker 6>Because we have a great time in when we meet up.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he buy your presents and things? No, no gifts,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just sex.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well you're missing out on the birthday present or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a question for you, because there'd be people.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there so many questions.

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<v Speaker 3>There'd be people out there that are probably wondered, like

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<v Speaker 3>it would a cross their mind. I hope my partner's

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<v Speaker 3>not doing the dirty on me. Is there any signs

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<v Speaker 3>or anything that could give away that they're doing the d.

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<v Speaker 6>It's quite scary what opportunities they can take the sense

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<v Speaker 6>of what he has tried to get away with to

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<v Speaker 6>see me as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you s he's saying he's at meetings, is he

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's own business trips?

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<v Speaker 6>It's a bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, look, we're gonna leave it there. We

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate your honesty.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we said, we'll keep our opinions too, combard ourself

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<v Speaker 3>until you hang up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody listening right now whose partner's about to go on

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<v Speaker 3>a business trip?

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<v Speaker 2>You know you can't do that? No, I know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it just you know, I know, that's scary, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley Madison, seventy million people were on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's seventy I think I think it was like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>before the data breach.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it's still another twenty million pace after the

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<v Speaker 4>details got leaked. That blow is still going.

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<v Speaker 1>The website's still going Anyway, the doco's on Netflix if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to watch it. It's well, yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>strange one. Lauren Wake Up Reeling Good on over one

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