Speaker 1: Clinton is sick today, but hopefully he's at home watching
Speaker 1: binge watching, which is what you do when you're sick,
Speaker 1: because I binge watched a show on Netflix.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Ashley Madison yet?
Speaker 3: So my wife was watching it the end of last week,
Speaker 3: so I was listening to it in the background while I.
Speaker 4: Was on the laptop.
Speaker 2: So it only dropped last week.
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a documentary about the dating site
Speaker 1: Ashley Madison, which was a dating website for married people.
Speaker 2: Ashley Madison was ahead of his time.
Speaker 5: The vision was to be the largest and only website
Speaker 5: for married people who wanted to have an affair. When
Speaker 5: I would go to trade shows, would say you know
Speaker 5: who's your biggest competitor, and I'd say the Bible.
Speaker 2: So that what it was.
Speaker 1: So you signed up if you were married. It was
Speaker 1: free for women to sign up. Men had to pay
Speaker 1: to be members. You could chat, you have to buy
Speaker 1: credits to keep talking. You could chat, you could go
Speaker 1: on dates. You could then do whatever you want. You
Speaker 1: could list all your design and preferences, so people knew
Speaker 1: exactly what they were signing up for.
Speaker 2: It sounds like quite a niche market.
Speaker 1: They ended up with fifty million users on it went
Speaker 1: world whide all over the world, fifty million.
Speaker 2: This is what they said. Anyway, I don't know if
Speaker 2: they now.
Speaker 3: We're going to remember this was before Tinder, before dating
Speaker 3: apps and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I think it was around like I want to say,
Speaker 2: twenty ten ish.
Speaker 4: I remember there was that huge.
Speaker 1: Data leak, So all these people had signed up thinking
Speaker 1: that it was they would remain private, but they got
Speaker 1: hacked and they leaked all the details of every single
Speaker 1: person on there. They leaked their personal details, their personal information,
Speaker 1: all their weird desires.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what smart business model. Because they also
Speaker 3: charged people like twenty bucks when you were leaving if
Speaker 3: you want them to wipe all your.
Speaker 2: Data, yeah, which they never actually did.
Speaker 4: They never did, but people paid the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, thinking some sort of false security in
Speaker 3: the back of their mind.
Speaker 1: And it ruined people's lives. It ruined I mean, you're
Speaker 1: ruining your own marriage if you're signing up to it.
Speaker 1: But the Data League all of a sudden because some
Speaker 1: people signed up and never actively used it. They just
Speaker 1: signed up to kind of suss out what was going
Speaker 1: on there, met up with anyone apparently, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just signed up. Just I just wanted to see what
Speaker 3: it was all about. Clicked on Candy's profile. I just
Speaker 3: just wanted to see how many people I just want
Speaker 3: to see the question. Yeahs, you'd have to have it, like,
Speaker 3: you don't have to have a profile photo, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these people are posting their photos.
Speaker 3: Surely people are scrolling through going, oh, well, there's Deborah
Speaker 3: for soccer team.
Speaker 1: Because if you were both on it, you were both
Speaker 1: supposed to be married.
Speaker 2: It was like unspoken I guess.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 1: The weird thing was the way they marketed this website, right,
Speaker 1: because at surface level it's sleazy and gross and it's
Speaker 1: all about having affairs and cheating.
Speaker 2: But their TVCs were so unhinged. Listen to how they marketed.
Speaker 4: It other than my wife's right, I'm looking for this. Okay,
Speaker 4: it's quite catchy.
Speaker 2: Wait till.
Speaker 4: Then more guys, everybody.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's it sounds so cute.
Speaker 4: You know what's going to happen now, don't you. I'm
Speaker 4: going to be humming that in the kitchen tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wife, going to go, what do you do?
Speaker 4: Because you know me with the brown guy.
Speaker 3: When I hear the ground guy, I add that's all
Speaker 3: I sing when I'm cooking dinner. Now I'm going to
Speaker 3: be doing bloody pasta tonight looking for.
Speaker 1: So the tv s's made it sound really fun and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that, but.
Speaker 2: Deep down it's just sleazy, Like the whole concept so wrong.
Speaker 2: But look in the dockumentary, fifteen million people, it's still
Speaker 2: going post the data.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Sorry, if you're signing up to that website now after
Speaker 3: a data breach and you think that it's fully private,
Speaker 3: you are an idiot and you deserve you details out.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: I think now everything's a bit more public, like maybe
Speaker 1: back then it was before Tinder and the big dating apps,
Speaker 1: everyone just thought it was this underground kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people that regretted putting their business email and their
Speaker 1: profile picture on it when it was when it was leaked,
Speaker 1: But fifteen million people, there would be people all over
Speaker 1: Melbourne who signed up to it.
Speaker 3: Funny you say that, because coming up next, we have
Speaker 3: a lady who is going to remain anonymous. She is
Speaker 3: hanging on hold, ready to share her story.
Speaker 2: Is she on it?
Speaker 3: Wait till you hear how long she has been on
Speaker 3: it and how long she has been seeing someone from
Speaker 3: the website.
Speaker 4: And still is.
Speaker 3: They are married, they live in Melbourne, and she joins us. Next,
Speaker 3: we are talking about the Ashley Madison docoe that has
Speaker 3: dropped on Netflix. Everyone was watching it over the weekend.
Speaker 2: It's pretty hectic.
Speaker 3: It's based around the website Ashley Madison, which was purely
Speaker 3: set up for couples who want.
Speaker 1: To cheat, well not couples, but people who were married
Speaker 1: who are going to have an affair.
Speaker 3: Now, I will point out the person who's about to
Speaker 3: join us has asked to remain anonymous. We've put the
Speaker 3: old voice to Coder on them as well. We're going
Speaker 3: to be like the rest of Melbourne. We're going to
Speaker 3: want to judge and rip in, but we we'll.
Speaker 2: Be judging to try and bite my time.
Speaker 3: But we have promised this person if they come on
Speaker 3: and share their story, we're not going to ridicule them
Speaker 3: and rip in.
Speaker 2: I'm very uneasy about it. Okay, shall we do it?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 2: All right, let's get them on the line. Good morning.
Speaker 2: So Ashley Madison.
Speaker 1: It's a dating site for married people, but you can
Speaker 1: chat and you can meet up with people as well.
Speaker 1: Of the married people that you spoke to, how many
Speaker 1: of them did you.
Speaker 2: Meet up with?
Speaker 6: Actually meet up with? Only about four?
Speaker 1: Okay, so then you've met up with four of them.
Speaker 1: Are you still with someone now that you met on
Speaker 1: the website?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How long has that been going?
Speaker 6: A little over five years?
Speaker 2: Five years?
Speaker 4: Jesus, and they're still married.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and their partner has no idea as far as
Speaker 3: I'm aware.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you do you have Do you feel guilty
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 6: I do?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm going to call you out straight away and go.
Speaker 3: You can't feel that guilty. It's been five years and
Speaker 3: you're still seeing them.
Speaker 6: That's two years you feeling guilty for you?
Speaker 1: Hear this stuff all the time, right? And do you
Speaker 1: like does this man? Is he telling you that he's
Speaker 1: going to leave his partner for you? So you're hoping
Speaker 1: that you two will be together properly one day? Or
Speaker 1: are you just happy being a side dish?
Speaker 6: He's not planning to leave and I don't want him to.
Speaker 3: Leave, so you you have no intention of actually getting
Speaker 3: into a relationship with him.
Speaker 6: No, I don't want a relationship with him at at?
Speaker 4: How often are you catching up with this person once?
Speaker 6: A fortnight and.
Speaker 2: Where is he saying it?
Speaker 3: Because that's the thing I said, Like my wife and
Speaker 3: I joke around and we're like, oh, like we barely
Speaker 3: see each other.
Speaker 4: I got no time for an affair. Like whereabouts you
Speaker 4: guys seeing each other motal.
Speaker 2: And you're doing this during the day.
Speaker 4: What does his partner think he is?
Speaker 6: We have been doing it during the day mostly, but
Speaker 6: there have been times that we do it on the
Speaker 6: weekends or at night.
Speaker 2: Do you feel bad.
Speaker 6: I do? It is purely just the one thing that
Speaker 6: we meet up for.
Speaker 1: If I can't you go and find someone single to
Speaker 1: do that with, Like does he have a family and kids?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 2: I find the whole thing.
Speaker 3: So like, ikey, can I ask what's the end goal here?
Speaker 3: You don't want to be in a relationship with this bloke.
Speaker 3: You're out looking for love yourself. Are you going to
Speaker 3: call it off when you finally meet someone or what's
Speaker 3: the plant?
Speaker 6: No, I'm planning to end it if I find somebody
Speaker 6: that I can be with all the time. And that's
Speaker 6: same goal for me.
Speaker 3: Say, if you meet the man of your dreams and
Speaker 3: then you find out that he's banging all your mates
Speaker 3: on the side, how would you feel about that.
Speaker 6: Obviously uneasy. Uneasy, he was disappointed, But I definitely would
Speaker 6: kind of understand in a way. But from what I know,
Speaker 6: I've been experienced three.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a hot tip.
Speaker 3: If you meet the man of your dreams and you
Speaker 3: find out he's doing the dirty I don't think you
Speaker 3: can kind of understand.
Speaker 2: Can I just ask?
Speaker 1: Do you like sure you're saying you're only doing this
Speaker 1: for one thing, which is obviously I think she's getting
Speaker 1: off on it a relationship. Yeah, but you must think
Speaker 1: this guy's a pretty average bloke, right, he is a
Speaker 1: pretty shitty human to be doing this.
Speaker 2: I have thought that yet, and you just don't care
Speaker 2: because it's just a bit of fun.
Speaker 6: I try not to be emotionally evolved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how anonymous, Are you getting turned on by this
Speaker 3: bloke in particular, or are you getting turned on by
Speaker 3: the situation?
Speaker 6: I would say would be the first one.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that sounds convincing.
Speaker 6: Because we have a great time in when we meet up.
Speaker 2: Does he buy your presents and things? No, no gifts,
Speaker 2: it's just sex.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well you're missing out on the birthday present or something.
Speaker 4: Here's a question for you, because there'd be people.
Speaker 2: Out there so many questions.
Speaker 3: There'd be people out there that are probably wondered, like
Speaker 3: it would a cross their mind. I hope my partner's
Speaker 3: not doing the dirty on me. Is there any signs
Speaker 3: or anything that could give away that they're doing the d.
Speaker 6: It's quite scary what opportunities they can take the sense
Speaker 6: of what he has tried to get away with to
Speaker 6: see me as well?
Speaker 1: Like you s he's saying he's at meetings, is he
Speaker 1: saying he's own business trips?
Speaker 6: It's a bit of everything.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, look, we're gonna leave it there. We
Speaker 4: appreciate your honesty.
Speaker 3: Like we said, we'll keep our opinions too, combard ourself
Speaker 3: until you hang up.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: Anybody listening right now whose partner's about to go on
Speaker 3: a business trip?
Speaker 2: You know you can't do that? No, I know, but
Speaker 2: it just you know, I know, that's scary, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Ashley Madison, seventy million people were on it.
Speaker 1: That's seventy I think I think it was like fifty
Speaker 1: before the data breach.
Speaker 4: And then it's still another twenty million pace after the
Speaker 4: details got leaked. That blow is still going.
Speaker 1: The website's still going Anyway, the doco's on Netflix if
Speaker 1: you want to watch it. It's well, yeah, it's a
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