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Speaker 1: Bill zis Power Hour with Gabriella Power.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Power Hour. I'm Gabriella Power. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for your company. But what is unfolded in France

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours has sent shockwaves around

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Speaker 2: the world with serious concerns about democracy. France is one

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Speaker 2: of the world's oldest democracies. It's a country that's regarded

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Speaker 2: as having free speech and independent judiciary and regular elections.

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Speaker 2: But a court has just barred the current front runner,

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Speaker 2: far right leader Marine la Penn from running. Marine La

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Speaker 2: Penn has been convicted of embezzling European Union funds and

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Speaker 2: has been sentenced to a two year prison term, and

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Speaker 2: she's been banned from holding public office for five years,

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Speaker 2: which disqualifies her from running in the twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 2: French presidential election. Now Marine La Penn denies the charges

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Speaker 2: and has told the media that she's going to appeal

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Speaker 2: and she insists that the ruling is a political decision

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Speaker 2: and she says that this is a fatal day for

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Speaker 2: democracy and the court's decision has outraged millions of people,

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Speaker 2: not just in France but right around the world. Last year,

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Speaker 2: a former French minister, an ally of Emmanuel mccron, Francois Beau,

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Speaker 2: was charged with the same crime, having misused European funds,

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Speaker 2: and he was acquitted. Yet Lepenn, a far right leader,

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Speaker 2: has just been banned from running, and it comes at

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Speaker 2: a time where she is the front runner and Emmanuel

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Speaker 2: mccron is sitting on an approval rating of just thirty

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Speaker 2: one percent.

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Speaker 3: And it's chilling to see law.

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Speaker 2: Feggainst someone who's likely to be the next president of France.

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Speaker 2: But it's what we've been seeing in recent years, with

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Speaker 2: countries right around the world pushing far right parties out

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Speaker 2: of a potential candidate for presidency. We all watched the

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Speaker 2: Democrats in the US attempt to jail and prevent Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump from running for reelection over the last four years,

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Speaker 2: and look how that turned out.

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Speaker 3: The left of the mainstream media will.

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Speaker 2: Tell you that the right is a threat to democracy,

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Speaker 2: but we all know that it is not true. American

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Speaker 2: Vice President j d Vance has recently been calling out Europe,

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Speaker 2: blasting it for its so called shared values.

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Speaker 4: The point that I try to make to our European friends,

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Speaker 4: and I think that there are friends I believe that

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Speaker 4: I know President Trump does is that friendship is based

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Speaker 4: on shared values. You do not have shared values. If

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Speaker 4: you're jailing people for saying we should close down our border,

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Speaker 4: you don't have shared values. If you cancel elections because

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Speaker 4: you don't like the result, and that happened in Romania,

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Speaker 4: you don't have You do not have shared values if

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Speaker 4: you're so afraid of your own people that you silence

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Speaker 4: them and shut them up.

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Speaker 3: And he's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Barring candidates telling voters that they no longer have the

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Speaker 2: option of voting for their preferred candidate is not going

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Speaker 2: to do anything in maintaining a peaceful society. Joining us

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Speaker 2: now is James Billow, newsroom editor at Unheard, James, great

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Speaker 2: to say see you, thank you for joining us again.

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Speaker 2: We're just two days away from Liberation Day in America,

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Speaker 2: where a number of tariffs will be announced to fulfill

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Speaker 2: the administration's ambitious economic agenda.

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Speaker 3: We know that automakers are.

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Speaker 2: Bracing for Trump's twenty five percent tariffs on vehicles and

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Speaker 2: parts made outside of the US. Now, Trump says that

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Speaker 2: automakers are going to be making a lot of money,

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Speaker 2: and this is what he had to say this morning.

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Speaker 5: Whatever they charge us, we charge them.

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Speaker 6: But we're being nicer than they were. We have a

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Speaker 6: lot of countries friend and foe. I always say friend

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Speaker 6: and foe, but the friend in many.

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Speaker 5: Cases is worse than the foe. They took advantage of us,

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Speaker 5: and we are going to be very nice by comparison

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Speaker 5: to what they were. The numbers will be lower than

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Speaker 5: what they've been charging us, and in some cases may

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Speaker 5: be substantially lower. But we sort of have a world obligation, perhaps,

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Speaker 5: but we're going to be very nice.

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Speaker 6: Relatively speaking, We're going to be very kind.

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Speaker 2: James, what's the feeling over in the US about the tariffs.

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Speaker 7: Well, a lot of people just seem to be jumping

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Speaker 7: to conclusions already. The tariffs haven't even come into effect,

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Speaker 7: and yet people are already casting judgment on the President.

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Speaker 7: I think you just need to wait and see, to

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Speaker 7: actually wait and see what unfolds. I think for starters,

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Speaker 7: people tend to assume that tariffs are just some kind

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Speaker 7: of economic tool that are used to just get some

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Speaker 7: more leverage from the other country. But actually it's also

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Speaker 7: a way of enacting other types of policies. So, for instance,

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Speaker 7: if you look at Mexico, if you look at Canada,

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Speaker 7: real problem with things like fentanyl trafficking and China dumping,

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Speaker 7: and this kind of policy is exactly how you seek

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Speaker 7: to unwind that. So I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: attention being given to what Trump's tariffs will do to

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Speaker 7: automakers and all that kind of thing. But I think

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Speaker 7: we just need to wait and see. The funny thing

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Speaker 7: is that he used to get attacked in his first

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Speaker 7: term for slavishly following the stock market and helding any

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Speaker 7: kind of gain in the stock market as his own,

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Speaker 7: and this time he's ignoring it and he's getting criticized

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Speaker 7: the exact So it's hard to get a read on this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent point.

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Speaker 2: Look, we've seen the wave of violent attacks against Tesla,

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Speaker 2: and there've been even more protests over the weekend. Not

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Speaker 2: as violent, thank goodness, but these protests they've been known

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Speaker 2: as Tesla takedowns. They were planning a global day of

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Speaker 2: protests targeting more than five hundred Tesla locations around the world,

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Speaker 2: many of them are targeted in America. But is it

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Speaker 2: just me or are the protests getting even weirder? Take

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Speaker 2: a look at this, Oh, James, what do you make

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's actually just a bit pathetic. It's clearly

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Speaker 7: people with a bit too much time on their hands.

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Speaker 8: Nothing better today.

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Speaker 7: I do think things quite funny when you've got all

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Speaker 7: these protesters holding up SWAT's ticker signs, and on the

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Speaker 7: other side is an electric vehicle brand. And it's a

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Speaker 7: weird contrast when you have left wing groups dancing to

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Speaker 7: groovy music protesting the rise of Nazism in America and

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Speaker 7: then making a kind of jingle out of it.

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Speaker 8: It's a weird, weird place that we're in.

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Speaker 7: But I also found that the sparse numbers that we

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Speaker 7: that a lot of the public aren't really with them

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Speaker 7: on this. And I just want to emb the fact

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Speaker 7: it's just plain wrong and it's exactly the wrong approach.

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Speaker 8: And the final thing I'd.

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Speaker 7: Say about it is that the left of very quick

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Speaker 7: So there's a bit of hypocrisy going on that I

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Speaker 2: No absolutely hypocrisy from the left were saying it once again.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: The President of l Salvador has provided an update on deportations.

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Speaker 2: He wrote last night, in a joint military operation with

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Speaker 2: our allies from the US, we transfer seventeen extremely dangerous

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Speaker 3: All individuals are.

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Speaker 2: Confirmed murderers and high profile offenders, including six child rapists.

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Speaker 2: This operation is another step in the fight against terrorism

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Speaker 2: and organized crime. James, what's your take on this development.

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Speaker 7: Well, Trump deserves a huge amount of credit for doing

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Speaker 7: exactly this, And I also want to point out that

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Speaker 7: last week one of the MS thirteen leaders on the

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Speaker 7: East Coast was captured and deported as well. And this

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Speaker 7: which gives him a whole new toolkit to establishing who's

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Speaker 7: getting rid of them. And it's remarkable to see just

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Speaker 7: the complete lack of coverage that we're seeing on the

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Speaker 8: I mean, is truly remarkable.

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Speaker 7: I mean, these are huge successes of the Trump administration,

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Speaker 7: and you know, you have to give them credit where

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Look, let's talk about USAID. The State Department finally

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Speaker 2: formally rather notified Congress that it is effectively dissolving the

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Speaker 2: USAID and moving some of its functions under the Department.

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Speaker 2: So the State Department said the reorganization will be done

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Speaker 2: by July, sounding a kind of death knell for USAID. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of left wing media outlets and

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Speaker 2: people on the left freaking out about this. But many programs,

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Should we be concerned that this is the death nail

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Speaker 8: No, I don't think it's the death nail for USID.

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Speaker 7: I think it's the death now for giving one point

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Speaker 7: five million dollars to Serbia to promote DEI initiatives. I

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Speaker 8: Now that, whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 7: And agree with the agenda, it's not in line with

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Speaker 7: Trump's principles the American first and gender. So it's no

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Speaker 7: complete distortion in what the administration's priorities were in previous

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Speaker 7: and look once again, take a deep breath. Democrats, let's

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Speaker 3: Excellent advice. Let's say if they will listen.

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Speaker 2: Now, Donald Trump knows how to stir up the left

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Speaker 2: and the lestling media is in meltdown.

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Speaker 3: After Trump declared that he won't rule out.

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Speaker 2: Seeking a third term in the White House, he told

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Speaker 2: NBC News that there are methods for doing so. Hugh's

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Speaker 2: what he had to say about this on Air Force One.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to look you know that.

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Speaker 11: But I'll tell you I have had more people asking

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Speaker 11: me down a third term, which is in a way

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Speaker 11: apart term because the other election, the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 6: So it's actually sort of a fourth term in a

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Speaker 11: I just don't want the credit for the second because

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Speaker 11: Biden was so bad.

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Speaker 6: He did such a mad job.

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Speaker 2: James, are we taking it on Trump seriously?

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Speaker 11: Here?

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Speaker 3: Is he just having a bit of fun?

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Speaker 8: I think? I mean, look at his face.

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Speaker 7: I know he says he's not joking, but you can

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Speaker 7: see Howard Lutnik in the back as well. They're clearly

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Speaker 7: having a laugh. And they know that the poe faced

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Speaker 7: liberal media like to take these comments incredibly seriously and

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Speaker 7: run with it, with it and run with it now.

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Speaker 7: Obviously we trump third term would be quite a dangerous

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Speaker 7: prospect for the Constitution. But I don't think Trump's particularly

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Speaker 7: interesting that he's focused on his second term and achieving.

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Speaker 8: What he was elected to do. The final thing I'd

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Speaker 7: Want to do a repeat of Joe Biden become an

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Speaker 7: I just he will look back on these four years

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. But I want to talk to

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Speaker 12: Yes, well it appears that way. I don't think this

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Speaker 2: And how will voters respond to this? I mean, what

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Speaker 13: Well, France is not a particularly peaceful country.

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Speaker 12: The minute you've seen you know, Charlie Hadbell a few

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Back home in Australia, Now Green's leader Adam Bannant has

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Speaker 3: I mean, Michael, what's your reaction. It's very sick.

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Speaker 13: Well, this is sick.

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Speaker 12: I mean, this guy banned is Actually they're not the

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Speaker 12: this is an appalling statement that somehow Israel's got something

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Speaker 13: I mean, let's let's be frank about what's happened in Gaza.

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Speaker 12: The Palestinian people who demonstrators on university campuses and Americanustralia

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Speaker 12: These demonstrators should now be demonstrating in support of the

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Speaker 13: But are they doing that.

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Speaker 12: No, they continue with this campaign against Israel. Why simply

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Speaker 12: Of left wing Jewish hating racists, these extremists, these Nazi

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Speaker 13: To demonstrate against Jews.

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Speaker 12: And you know, we see in Gaza that the Palestinian

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Speaker 12: And we've seen what Hamas have done, murdering some of

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Speaker 12: this is why, you know, we've got twelve percent of

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And just on those reports about people being

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Speaker 13: This is exactly right.

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Speaker 12: I mean, these Palestinian demonstrations are going to start again

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Speaker 12: Let's see the signs of Palestinians slaughtering other Palestinians in

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Speaker 12: Let's see all the speeches, let's see all the campaigning

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Speaker 13: These people have been exposed.

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Speaker 13: This is just appalling.

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Speaker 12: It is really appalling, but people are It's taken a

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Speaker 3: Now let's talk about the election.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Ibanezi is closer than I suppose many of us

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Speaker 2: Well oppositionally to Peter Dutton has signaled that one of

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Speaker 14: Government doesn't own or run a school, and which is

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Speaker 1: Well, that will.

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Speaker 12: Certainly sway the votes of parents who want their kids

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Speaker 13: Gap.

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Speaker 3: Look, Kamala Harris is coming to Australia.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how excited you are if you're going

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Speaker 13: So she knows nothing about real estate.

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Speaker 12: This is a joke, This is this is light relief.

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Speaker 13: Want to hear.

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Speaker 13: a circus act. I mean seriously, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 13: you get people there who are just going to laugh.

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Speaker 12: But would she have anything to say about capital aims,

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Speaker 12: taxes or negative gearing or the state of the property market,

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Speaker 12: the interest rate dilemma in this country, building costs, GST

447
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Speaker 12: on building land release, state government planning approvals, building approvals,

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Speaker 12: the delays in subdivisions that take place in this country,

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Speaker 12: unionization of domestic workforces in the building industry, the collapse

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Speaker 12: of hundreds and hundreds of building companies, construction companies, the CFMU.

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Speaker 12: Has she got anything to say about any of those

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Speaker 12: issues to do with the real estate inders in Shuda

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Speaker 12: zero nicks nothing.

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Speaker 13: This is a this is a this is.

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Speaker 12: An after dinner speaker. You know, instead of instead of

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Speaker 12: a comedian, they're bringing in Kamala Harris. I mean, this

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Speaker 12: is this is just for comedic relief after a long

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Speaker 12: quite frankly, what.

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Speaker 13: What what a joke? Five hundred thousand dollars? What a joke?

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Speaker 2: I have to agree with you there, Michael Kroga, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Great to speak with you.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now is chief economist at the IPA, Adam Crichton. Adam,

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Speaker 2: great to see you, Thank you for joining us. The

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Speaker 2: US Trade Office has just raised fresh concerns about its

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Speaker 2: trade relationship with Australia ahead of an expected tariff announcement

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Speaker 2: this week. Now we know that Anthony Albernezi has been

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Speaker 2: forced to defend his relationship with President Donald Trump amid

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Speaker 2: fears rather of further tariffs against Australia. So we know

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump is going to reveal the next round

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Speaker 2: of tariffs this week, which he's calling Liberation Day. What

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Speaker 2: can we really expect? What's your sense and feeling about it?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well, certainly, the US Trade Representative did issue a report

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Speaker 6: that looked at things that the US doesn't like very

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Speaker 6: much about Australia's economic settings, and that included our farmer scoter, sorry,

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Speaker 6: our pharmaceutical scheme, the news bargaining code, but actually the

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Speaker 6: list was pretty short compared to things that the US

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Speaker 6: did not like about other countries Canada and Mexico. So

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Speaker 6: it may well be that we escape relatively lightly from

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Speaker 6: this second round of tariffs that, as you say, we

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Speaker 6: are going to see at some point over the next

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Speaker 6: few days. But I think the biggest issue to think

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Speaker 6: here is that is that even if further tariffs are

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Speaker 6: put on Australian exports to the United States, it's really

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Speaker 6: not the end of the world. Of course, it's not welcome,

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Speaker 6: we don't want it, and it's a shame that's happened,

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Speaker 6: but it's not going to crush the Australian economy. What

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Speaker 6: is crushing the Australian economy is our own domestic policy settings,

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Speaker 6: such as all of the restrictions and all of the

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Speaker 6: energy and a renewable energy rolled out on our manufacturing

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Speaker 6: sector and our mining sector. So that is the far

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Speaker 6: larger problem for our industry, not know ten or fifteen

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Speaker 6: percent tariffs that may or may not be put on

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Speaker 6: some Australian exports to the US.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look, we've Donald Trump has spoken about his relationship

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Speaker 2: I guess with Vladimir Putin. He says that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: believe that the Russian president will be going back in

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Speaker 2: his word, and he's signaled really that he trusts that

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Speaker 2: Putin will do the right thing as he attempts to

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Speaker 2: hash out a piece steal with the Russia Ukraine war.

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Speaker 3: This is what Donald Trump has had to say.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: I want to see him magi dial so that we

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Speaker 5: start Russian soldiers and Ukrainian soldiers and other people from

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Speaker 5: being killed. But mostly it's Russian and Ukrainian soldiers. They're

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Speaker 5: losing at least two five hundred human beings, beautiful human

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Speaker 5: beings a week.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to start what's your assessment of where

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Speaker 2: this is at at the moment?

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Speaker 3: Does what Donald Trump has had to.

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Speaker 2: Say, how does it give the world confidence that peace

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Speaker 2: can be achieved?

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Speaker 6: Well, certainly one of Donald Trump's co election promises was

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Speaker 6: to try to end this war, and it seems that

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Speaker 6: he's trying to do that by applying pressure to both

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Speaker 6: Ukrainians and the Russians. He's used pretty a strong language

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Speaker 6: in recent days. He said, I think he's quote unquote

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Speaker 6: pissed off with Vladimir Putin that he's very angry that

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Speaker 6: seeing me, the Russian leader is not accepting various peace

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Speaker 6: proposals that have been put forward the US president. I

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Speaker 6: think he's even canvassed are putting twenty five percent secondary

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Speaker 6: tariffs on other countries that import Russian oil, such as Brazil, Turkey,

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Speaker 6: and India. That would certainly be an extreme move. But

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Speaker 6: I think it's worth noting that all of the shadow

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Speaker 6: before the president in election and after that, somehow Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump was a patsy of the Russian leader. It does

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Speaker 6: not seem to be true at the moment. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I I just said he's threatening serious secondary tariffs on

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Speaker 6: country that import Russian oil. Now, look, we'll see what

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Speaker 6: happens there. I think that would be a very extreme

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Speaker 6: move and it's very very disruptive to do that. It's

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Speaker 6: not happened yet, but look, I think the prospects for

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Speaker 6: peace are much better than they were three or four

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Speaker 6: months ago before he entered the White House. That's sorely

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Speaker 6: fair to say, and that's got to be good to

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Speaker 6: the world and world peace.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we have her Donald Trump once again being quite

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Speaker 2: critical of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky claiming that he's now

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Speaker 2: training back out of the minerals deal.

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Speaker 11: Take a listen, Shlenski, by the way, the back out

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Speaker 11: of the rare Earth deal. And if he does that,

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Speaker 11: he's got some problems, big, big problems. We think we

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Speaker 11: made a deal of rare earth and now he's saying, well,

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Speaker 11: you know, I want to renegotiate the deal. He wants

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Speaker 11: to be a member of NATO. Well, he was never

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Speaker 11: going to be a member of NATO. He understands that.

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Speaker 11: So if he's looking to renegotiate the deal, he's got

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Speaker 11: big problems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you make of that?

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Speaker 2: Really doesn't appear that the relationship between the US and

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Speaker 2: Ukraine is getting any better.

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Speaker 6: Look, that's true. I mean, I think Donald Trump wants

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Speaker 6: to create the perception and maybe the reality that the

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Speaker 6: US is somehow going to get back some of the

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Speaker 6: hundreds of billions of dollars that it's spent supporting Ukraine.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's a very popular notion in the global

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Speaker 6: community that US taxpayers should just pay for the defense

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Speaker 6: of everyone else around the world. But from a domestic

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Speaker 6: US point of view, and certainly from the people, that's

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Speaker 6: sport Donald Trump they don't agree with that. They don't

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Speaker 6: like having to pay for everyone else's defense, and so

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Speaker 6: they would like to get some link back from the Ukrainians. Now,

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Speaker 6: whether that happens or not, we don't know, but certainly

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Speaker 6: I would say the US is in a much stronger

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Speaker 6: negotiating position here than the Ukrainians because the US has

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Speaker 6: been funding their entire government more or less for years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's talk about doze. Elon Musk says that cutting

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Speaker 2: a trillion dollars in federal spending is quite achievable without

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Speaker 2: affecting core services, and is that social security recipients will

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Speaker 2: receive more money as a result.

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Speaker 1: Here is sort about a high level You should think

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Speaker 1: of this as we are. We want to reduce the

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Speaker 1: spending by eliminating waste and ford reduce the spending by

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent, which seems really quite achievable. The government is

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Speaker 1: not efficient and there's a lot of waste and frauds,

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Speaker 1: so we feel confident that fifteen percent reduction can can

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Speaker 1: be done without affecting any of the critical government services.

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Speaker 2: It's great hearing Elon Musk being so transparent speaking of

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Speaker 2: about exactly what he is doing to the American.

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Speaker 3: People, while left.

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Speaker 2: Wing activists are out there burning tesla charging stations and

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Speaker 2: setting cars on fire. But let's talk about Doze. There

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Speaker 2: are concerns that this could shock the economy. What's your assessment.

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Speaker 6: Oh, look, I don't think it will shock the economy.

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Speaker 6: There's plenty of evidence in the past from other countries

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Speaker 6: that steep spending cuts do not cause a recession, and

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Speaker 6: in fact can encourage economic growth, especially when the spending

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Speaker 6: is very unproductive and inefficient in the first place. And

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Speaker 6: of course, you know, spending leads to taxes, either now

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Speaker 6: or in the future. It seems evidently reasonable to me

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Speaker 6: that the US government could shave fifteen percent off as

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Speaker 6: spending without really affecting services. There is extraordinary bloat in

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Speaker 6: every government, including in Australia's of course, so we should

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Speaker 6: have some sort of Doze like committee here, I would

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Speaker 6: argue for but remember that you there is a shocking

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Speaker 6: fiscal issue. I mean, it spends seven trillion a year

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Speaker 6: and it raises five trillion in taxes. It's got a

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Speaker 6: two trillion dollar deficit every single year. That can't go on.

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Speaker 6: Something has to change, and taxes there are already very high.

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Speaker 6: So I think spending is going to have.

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Speaker 13: To come down.

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Speaker 2: Looking at polling over in the US, new polling shows

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump's immigration policies have surged in popularity, and

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Speaker 2: new CBS News poll shows that fifty eight percent of

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Speaker 2: people approve of the Trump administration's program to deport illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrants in the United States. Now, Trump's overall job rating

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Speaker 2: is split with the fifty percent approval rating, which is

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Speaker 2: still pretty high.

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Speaker 3: But let's take a look at the analysis.

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Speaker 15: This is a story about balance and the things that

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Speaker 15: are going well in the public mind for him is

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Speaker 15: his handling of immigration, which is still net positive, and

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Speaker 15: his deportation program is still net positive and popular.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty strong result for someone that's you know,

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Speaker 2: been in for a couple of months now. You know,

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Speaker 2: you'd expect that there was a honeymoon period when he

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Speaker 2: first started, but that the numbers are still very strong

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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look, I think it's funny there those anchors were reading

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Speaker 6: the results as if they were shocked. But I don't

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Speaker 6: think it's surprising that people don't like illegal immigration. So

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Speaker 6: I mean, if anything, I thought fifty eight percent approval

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Speaker 6: of his policy was too low and it would be

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Speaker 6: higher in reality.

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Speaker 13: Who knows.

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Speaker 6: We'll see other polls, but certainly during the Biden administration,

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Speaker 6: something like ten million people entered the US illegally. It's

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Speaker 6: an extraordinary number. It's hard to fathom, actually, and quite

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Speaker 6: understandably huge pushback. And Trump is trying to rectify that,

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Speaker 6: and it's very popular. That's not really a shock to me.

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Speaker 6: The question is whether he'll be able to keep it up.

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Speaker 6: It's very resource intensive to find people and then send

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Speaker 6: them back to their own country, especially when you're talking

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Speaker 6: numbers in the millions.

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Speaker 2: Look, you said earlier that we should have a bit

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Speaker 2: of a doge system here in Australia.

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Speaker 3: I think many people would agree with you.

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Speaker 2: And you've written in The Australian that voters are sick

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Speaker 2: of the spending splurge.

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Speaker 3: You've written that voters are sick of the.

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Speaker 2: Spending splurge, but our pollies don't listen. Now you say,

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Speaker 2: let's to the two major parties just a few days

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Speaker 2: out from budget. You'd think that there's no significant constituency

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Speaker 2: in this country for cutting government spending, and there should be,

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Speaker 2: given the nation's increasingly.

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Speaker 3: Dire fiscal outlook.

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Speaker 2: And it turns out that around four times as many

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Speaker 2: Australians would prefer the government to cut spending as opposed

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Speaker 2: to increase taxes to fix the budget. And that's according

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Speaker 2: to a survey by the Institute of Public Affairs.

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Speaker 3: Look what do you.

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Speaker 2: Make of the numbers from that survey? What are you

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Speaker 2: hearing from people? How many of us really want to doge?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well, look, I think it was a pleasant surprise to

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Speaker 6: us actually at the IPA that so many people, I

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Speaker 6: think fifty seven percent said that we should that we

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Speaker 6: should cut spending rather than increase taxes to fix the budget.

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Speaker 6: So there is a constituency out there for more frugality,

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Speaker 6: but certainly neither side of politics really wants to cater

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Speaker 6: to that. It's seemingly much much easier, much politically simpler

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Speaker 6: to simply advocate for more spending or to have a

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Speaker 6: small target strategy. But I mean, at some point they'll

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Speaker 6: have to be cuts because we can't keep increasing spending

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Speaker 6: at the rate we are. I mean, it's gone up

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Speaker 6: faster than in the Whitlam years in just the past

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Speaker 6: three years. Not enough people know that.

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Speaker 2: And now the election campaign here in Australia is underway

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Speaker 2: and we're already seeing some comparisons to what played out

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Speaker 2: in the United States last year. Anthony alber EASi appears

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Speaker 2: to have copied the economic centerpiece of the failed come

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Speaker 2: Alert Harras campaign. Labor is promising to make supermarket price

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Speaker 2: gouging illegal.

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Speaker 3: This is what he had to say.

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Speaker 10: If you've ever felt ripped off at the supermarket, this

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Speaker 10: one's for you. Labor will make supermarket price gouging illegal.

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Speaker 10: See not pain more than you should take advantage of

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Speaker 10: people when there's not enough competition is just not on

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Speaker 10: right now. There are no laws against excessive pricing. But

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Speaker 10: we have your back and we're going to fix it

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Speaker 10: so you get a fair deal at the checkout.

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Speaker 13: Or the rose.

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Speaker 8: By Anthony Albernezi LP camera.

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Speaker 2: Supermarket giants Coles and Wilworths have pushed back against this

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Speaker 2: and noted that despite this inquiry, there's essentially no evidence

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Speaker 2: of price gouging. What do you make of Anthony Alberanezi

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Speaker 2: copying Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, well, I spent last year in the US

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Speaker 6: and I covered the US president the US presidential election,

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Speaker 6: and when he announced that, I thought, hang on, that's

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Speaker 6: exactly the same as as what Kamala Harris said. I

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Speaker 6: actually went didn't work, and look it didn't work. Obviously

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Speaker 6: she lost. But it's just part of a pattern of

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Speaker 6: governments trying to blame the inflation that they caused on

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Speaker 6: the private sector. That's exactly what's happening. And they choose

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Speaker 6: supermarkets because Australians go to supermarkets, you know, most days,

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Speaker 6: many days, they're familiar with them. But the reality is

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Speaker 6: the profit margins of supermarkets are very very low, something

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Speaker 6: like two percent. There's no evidence of any gouging, and

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Speaker 6: even if there was evidence of gouging the government, it's

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Speaker 6: very very hard to prove. And these sorts of laws

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Speaker 6: can just make the situation even worse than it currently is.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, you know, it's a silly policy and let's

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Speaker 6: so you know, not many people will fall.

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Speaker 2: From Chief economist at the IPA, Adam Crichton, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you, Thanks Ger Real.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now is News Court columnist Angela Mollard.

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Speaker 3: Angela, great to see you. Let's start with the news.

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Speaker 2: Just in today, the woman who accused Prince Andrew of

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Speaker 2: sexual assault says that she has four days to live

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Speaker 2: after a car accident. Now an opposed to Instagram. Virginia

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Speaker 2: Roberts explains that she was hit by a school bus

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Speaker 2: as she was slowing down to take a turn, and

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Speaker 2: she said she's been transferred to a specialist hospital.

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Speaker 3: What more can you tell her?

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Speaker 16: That's right? This post is quite odd.

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Speaker 17: The picture of her is deeply alarming. She's battered and bruce,

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Speaker 17: and as you say, she says that she's got four

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Speaker 17: days to live now. This has been confirmed by her spokesperson.

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Speaker 17: But wa Police, according to several sources, have said that

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Speaker 17: they've got no knowledge of a bus and a car

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Speaker 17: and a crash over the last few days. Really worrying here.

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Speaker 17: Of course, she had a massive payout from the Palace.

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Speaker 17: This was before the Queen's Jubilee. She wanted that issue

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Speaker 17: with Prince Andrew to go away. But we also understand

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Speaker 17: that Virginia's marriage has just broken up in recent times,

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Speaker 17: so it's an evolving story. There's a lot in London.

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Speaker 17: There's a lot of interest in this in London, obviously,

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Speaker 17: with fans and friends of Prince Andrew going pretty tough

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Speaker 17: on this one in terms of you know, claiming she's

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Speaker 17: a fake in that sort of thing. So it's hard

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Speaker 17: to comment on it. In too much detail at this stage.

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Speaker 17: Without more detail, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And some concerning developments. Thank you for that, Prince Harry.

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Speaker 2: He was stood down last week as trustee of Santa

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Speaker 2: Bali along with other board members, which was a significant moment.

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Speaker 2: We know that Prince Harry set up the charity back

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and six to honor his late mother.

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Speaker 3: Princess Diana, now sent to Bali.

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Speaker 2: Charity chair has accused Prince Harry of bullying at scale

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Speaker 2: and claims that the Duke of Sasse unleash the Sussex

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Speaker 2: machine on her and the hundreds of employees at Center

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Speaker 2: Ballet Takelsen.

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Speaker 9: At some point on Tuesday, Prince Harry authorized the release

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Speaker 9: of a damaging piece of news to the outside world

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Speaker 9: without informing me, all my country directors, all my executive

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Speaker 9: director and can you imagine what that attack has done

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Speaker 9: for me, on me and the five hundred and forty

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Speaker 9: individuals in the center body organizations and their family. That

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Speaker 9: is an example of harassment and bullying at scale.

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Speaker 3: Angela lot's your reaction to this.

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Speaker 17: These are huge and highly damaging claims against Harry. He

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Speaker 17: will be deeply upset about this. We know that he,

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Speaker 17: of course has resigned from Center Bali, which the word

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Speaker 17: actually means forget me not, which was his mother's favorite flower,

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Speaker 17: and he of as you mentioned, set this up.

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Speaker 16: In honor of Diana.

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Speaker 17: Look really worrying here is there's lots and lots of

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Speaker 17: allegations about the fact that Harry asked Sophia Chandela to

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Speaker 17: stand up for Megan when she there was some talk

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Speaker 17: about her ducking under the trophy that he was being

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Speaker 17: presented at the polo. She's gone into a lot of

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Speaker 17: detail and certainly what's worrying for the Sussexes is that

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Speaker 17: having made claims of racism and bullying themselves, they are

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Speaker 17: now being accused of the very same thing. So look

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Speaker 17: interesting to see how this one will evolve. But at

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Speaker 17: this stage you have to ask the question, this is

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Speaker 17: so damaging for Harry's brand, the Sussex brand. You know,

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Speaker 17: Meghan's on this stratospheric rise with her work and you

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Speaker 17: know her TV show, Netflix show and her brand as ever,

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Speaker 17: which I got dropped into my inbox this morning with

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Speaker 17: the first sign of products to come. But for Harry,

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Speaker 17: the notion that he is now Megan's spare that you know,

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Speaker 17: after years of being spared to Prince William.

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Speaker 16: He is now being regarded as a spare to me Meghan.

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Speaker 17: This will be a really damaging and worrying development for him.

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Speaker 17: He now only has the Invictus Games, which of course

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Speaker 17: is only every two years, so how he's going to

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Speaker 17: spend his time is remains to be seen.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so damaging for Prince Harry's brand that was already

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Speaker 2: toxic just a few years ago when he left the UK.

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Speaker 3: How he rebuilds from here, we'll wait and see. Now.

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Speaker 2: The Princess of Wales has shared a touching message for

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Speaker 2: Mother's Day in the UK. We remember her post last

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Speaker 2: year caused a part nightmare for the Palace after it

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Speaker 2: was revealed that had been seriously edited before she had

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Speaker 2: publicly revealed that.

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Speaker 3: She'd been battling cancer.

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Speaker 2: But this year her message was about celebrating Mother nature.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of the Mother? The same message

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Speaker 3: I absolutely.

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Speaker 17: Loved and in fact we'll just watching it there again.

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Speaker 17: It just makes you feel so peaceful and meditative, and

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Speaker 17: I think this is really interesting. I think in years

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Speaker 17: to come, decades to come, when Kate becomes queen, she

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Speaker 17: will look back on twenty twenty four, her year of

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Speaker 17: reckoning and she will take from it the things that

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Speaker 17: she learned during that year. And what she's saying here

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Speaker 17: on Mother's Day is that nature became a sanctuary for

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Speaker 17: her family. As we know they went to spend a

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Speaker 17: lot of time at their country house in Norfolk. We

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Speaker 17: also know that Kate and William wanted to move out

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Speaker 17: of Kensington Palace to their very small for royal standards

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Speaker 17: house in near Windsor because they wanted to have a

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Speaker 17: nature based childhood for their children. They want that to

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Speaker 17: be part of their lives and I think this will

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Speaker 17: be a theme in many years to come when George

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Speaker 17: Raynes and Charlotte and Louis have public lives, that the

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Speaker 17: connection with nature will underpin them and hopefully sort of

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Speaker 17: walk can in Ham with them as they go through

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Speaker 17: the scrutiny that comes with being royal.

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Speaker 2: Well, Prince William has been out in nature again. The

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Speaker 2: Prince of Wales is going to appear on an episode

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Speaker 2: of Clarkson's Farm after Caleb Creeper, the show celebrity farm hand,

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Speaker 2: joined him on a royal engagement.

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Speaker 3: Prince William was joined by Caleb Cooper.

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Speaker 2: And other stars when he met with young farmers in Somerset,

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Speaker 2: so an Amazon Prime camera crew followed Prince William to

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Speaker 2: Folly Farm where he was raising awareness of mental health

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Speaker 2: care for farmers.

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Speaker 3: What exactly did he say? What was he opening up about?

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Speaker 17: Oh, I thought this was a great exchange because we're

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Speaker 17: getting more information about the Wales's children now.

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Speaker 16: And what he said to Caleb Cooper was.

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Speaker 17: He asked his son, Prince George, who apparently is a

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Speaker 17: fan of the show Clarkson Smith. He said, oh, what

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Speaker 17: shall I ask Caleb? And apparently Prince George said to

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Speaker 17: his day, do you have to tell him to stop

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Speaker 17: swearing so much? If anyone who's a fan of the

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Speaker 17: show will know that Caleb likes an exploitive or ten

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Speaker 17: and I love this, but I love the fact that

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Speaker 17: William is. You know, he talked about being royal with

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Speaker 17: a small r, that that was going to be his

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Speaker 17: manifesto going forward.

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Speaker 16: And this is where he really connects with his public.

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Speaker 9: Look.

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Speaker 16: He can be going.

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Speaker 17: To you know, state events, he could be meeting dignitaries,

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Speaker 17: he can be wearing cloaks and crowns.

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Speaker 16: But the key thing is that he's also.

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Speaker 17: Connecting with real people and in this case, the mental

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Speaker 17: health of farmers, which, as we know in Australia is

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Speaker 17: a huge challenge.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Look, moving on from Royal news on to some entertainment news.

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Speaker 2: We have to keep talking about Snow White because Disney's

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Speaker 2: Snow White remake the box office has suffered a sixty

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Speaker 2: six percent drop in the second weekend of showing, so

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Speaker 2: the film's flop could end up costing Disney millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: We know that the movie is currently one of the

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Speaker 2: lowest IMDb rated movies of all time, receiving a one

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Speaker 2: point six out of ten rating. It's generated one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty three million dollars globally to date, which is

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Speaker 2: well short of the two hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 2: that Disney has spent producing the film, and that doesn't

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Speaker 2: even include the marketing expenses. So Angela, what's your assessment

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Speaker 2: of how the cis going?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't look good.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like Disney has made such a big

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Speaker 2: mistake turning the movie so whoa.

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Speaker 17: It's been heralded as Disney turning its fairy tale into

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Speaker 17: a nightmare that they you know. Kevin mart In the

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Speaker 17: Times in the UK said this is the film his.

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Speaker 16: Review was brilliant.

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Speaker 17: I invite you to go and seek it out because

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Speaker 17: it's funny.

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Speaker 16: It's the funniest thing I've read.

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Speaker 17: But he says that Disney has basically destroyed its crown

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Speaker 17: jewel for multiple reasons, not just Rachel Zegler and of

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Speaker 17: course her her being particularly woke and saying, you know,

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Speaker 17: I will not be saved by a prince, which you know,

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Speaker 17: in some respects fair enough, but on every level this

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Speaker 17: is apparently you know, I saw one review that said, oh,

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Speaker 17: it's jumped the shark brackets.

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Speaker 16: Warning dangerous animal.

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Speaker 17: You know, it's so tame this movie, and you know,

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Speaker 17: so it's such a beautiful movie, so central to the

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Speaker 17: Disney brand brand, and I thought it was also interesting

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Speaker 17: that the producer's son came out and just basically said,

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Speaker 17: you've ruined to Rachel Zegler, you've ruined my dad's movie.

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Speaker 16: But not only that, you've really ruined what.

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Speaker 17: Could have been a brilliant experience for the huge cast

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Speaker 17: and crew that have worked on this movie, and that

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Speaker 17: this is their livelihoods. So all very well to speak

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Speaker 17: up about your woke beliefs, but the knock on effect

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Speaker 17: for real people.

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