Speaker 1: Good a team.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another installment of Well it's really part B
Speaker 2: of part two of the conversation I began yesterday about
Speaker 2: strength training. Hope you're enjoying it. Here's part two. So
Speaker 2: the next question is what are the different strength training options?
Speaker 2: So generally we're you know, we're talking about free weights.
Speaker 2: When we talk about free weights, we're talking about dumb
Speaker 2: bells and bar bells and kettle bells and plates. You know,
Speaker 2: so you know what a ten kilo plate is. You
Speaker 2: slide it on the end of the barbell. You know
Speaker 2: what that is.
Speaker 1: So they're all called free weights.
Speaker 2: And what I like about free weights is there's a
Speaker 2: huge amount of flexibility and a multitude of different applications
Speaker 2: and like the beauty of Let's say you've got one
Speaker 2: hundred pounds of weights and a barbell that weighs twenty
Speaker 2: five pounds, so you've got in total, you've got one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pounds or give or take what
Speaker 2: is that fifty you know, about fifty five k's in total,
Speaker 2: Like just with that bar and just with those weights,
Speaker 2: there is probably you know, there's definitely thirty, forty, fifty
Speaker 2: sixty exercises that you can do, and then when we
Speaker 2: chuck in different benches and so on, there's we could,
Speaker 2: probably if we had enough time, figure out one hundred
Speaker 2: different exercises that can be done just with something simple
Speaker 2: like a barbell and some plates. So free weights are
Speaker 2: definitely an option. What is probably a limitation or a
Speaker 2: caveat with free weights is that lifting free weights compared
Speaker 2: to the other options I'm about to talk about, can
Speaker 2: be comparatively more dangerous. I've seen many times people drop
Speaker 2: things and plates slide off barbells, and people get injured
Speaker 2: or almost injured in gyms. Myself included doing things where
Speaker 2: they they haven't set something up properly. Also, the other
Speaker 2: thing to keep in mind about free weights, like somebody
Speaker 2: jumping on say a ball, a fitball or an exercise
Speaker 2: ball with a couple of dumbells, doing dumbbell bench press,
Speaker 2: lying on your back, doing a version of a bench
Speaker 2: press on a ball with dumbbells that's the separate weight
Speaker 2: each hand. Well, that requires quite a bit of competence
Speaker 2: and confidence and skill and balance and technique. So using
Speaker 2: free weights really well requires a level of competence and
Speaker 2: skill that the average person will not have first time.
Speaker 1: In the gym.
Speaker 2: In fact, they won't have They might be naturally better
Speaker 2: at it than some, but definitely training safely and optimally
Speaker 2: with free weights is something that needs to develop over time.
Speaker 2: And people have said to me many times. But let's say,
Speaker 2: for example, you know what a barbell bench press is,
Speaker 2: So a pinloaded bench press where you lie on a
Speaker 2: bench and then you push up some handles that are
Speaker 2: fixed to some pinloaded plates where you push in a
Speaker 2: pin what are basically a steel kind of peg to
Speaker 2: make the weight heavier or lighter. You can't overbalance because
Speaker 2: it's on runners and it's about as safe as you
Speaker 2: can get from a weight training perspective. So doing strength
Speaker 2: training with pinloaded equipment or similar. There's hydraulic equipment, there's
Speaker 2: different kinds of machine based exercise equipment. But let's just
Speaker 2: most gyms have got pinloaded equipment. Go into any gym,
Speaker 2: any normal commercial gym, there will be.
Speaker 1: Nelly.
Speaker 2: Any normal commercial gym, there'll be pinloaded equipment.
Speaker 1: I guess I.
Speaker 2: Should say that very easy to teach, very easy to do,
Speaker 2: and relatively safe. Not as functional. That is, for example,
Speaker 2: if I'm lying on a ball as I described before,
Speaker 2: doing a Dumbell bench press. I'm because only my feet
Speaker 2: are on the ground and my shoulders are on the ball.
Speaker 2: I'm using all of the muscles from my ankles up
Speaker 2: to my neck basically to stabilize me because I'm on
Speaker 2: an unstable surface that is a ball, and my shoulder
Speaker 2: stabilizers are working over time, and my hips and everything,
Speaker 2: and so there's a lot more muscles being involved and
Speaker 2: required to execute that movement effectively, versus are harps lying
Speaker 2: on a pinloaded machine. The reason that I like the
Speaker 2: pinloaded machines initially is that they're easy to teach, they're
Speaker 2: easy to do, and it's really you're still building strength,
Speaker 2: but it's really good for people to gain confidence in
Speaker 2: a gym. Anybody that comes to the gym that's pretty scared,
Speaker 2: that doesn't have any any or much prior experience, that's
Speaker 2: a bit uncomfortable in that environment. I would almost always
Speaker 2: start them on pinloaded equipment if I have that option,
Speaker 2: purely from the point of view, so that they can
Speaker 2: have a strength training experience without going through the potential
Speaker 2: trauma of looking silly or being embarrassed, or having to
Speaker 2: learn a new technical skill on day one and so on.
Speaker 2: So free weights, pinloaded weights, and there are a bunch
Speaker 2: of other options in you know, you could call rock climbing.
Speaker 2: There's indoor rock climbing centers. You could call that strength training,
Speaker 2: which it is. You could call using reformer beds in
Speaker 2: pilate studios strength training, which it is. I'm just talking
Speaker 2: about mainstream gyms for the moment, and I guess we
Speaker 2: would also chuck in there. You know, body weight training
Speaker 2: is a very legitimate and very very effective way to
Speaker 2: build not only strength, but also muscular endurance and overall functions.
Speaker 2: So you know, some people think, yeah, but the problem
Speaker 2: with body weight is that you're lifting the same weight, so.
Speaker 1: There's no real progression.
Speaker 2: Well, grasshopper, you don't really understand progression if you think
Speaker 2: that is the case. And so there are a lot
Speaker 2: of ways to increase stress. There are a lot of
Speaker 2: ways to increase the level of intensity, even if you
Speaker 2: were using the same in inverted commas weight. So my
Speaker 2: weight is eighty five kilos, so my body weight eighty
Speaker 2: five kilos. Now I could jump on the floor right
Speaker 2: now and do ten push ups, chest to ground, arms
Speaker 2: locked out at the top, right down, right up, right down,
Speaker 2: right up, and ten push ups might take me about
Speaker 2: ten seconds, and for me that would be very easy.
Speaker 2: But what if the same bloke with the same body,
Speaker 2: the same weight did the same exercise, but he slowed
Speaker 2: it down by ten times. What if instead of doing
Speaker 2: one push up in one second and finishing, I set
Speaker 2: of ten push ups in ten seconds. What if each rep?
Speaker 2: What if each push up took me ten seconds. So
Speaker 2: what if I'm at the top of the movement and
Speaker 2: I go slowly to the ground five seconds, and then
Speaker 2: I come slowly back to the top of the movement,
Speaker 2: arm straight. Now I've done one rep, one repetition ten seconds.
Speaker 2: I do ten of those. Now my time under tension,
Speaker 2: that is how long my muscles are working for. My
Speaker 2: time under tension has gone from ten seconds to one
Speaker 2: hundred seconds. And the intensity and the pain and the
Speaker 2: stress and the training effect and the value has gone
Speaker 2: through the fucking roof because I've just gone from a
Speaker 2: one or two out of ten hard to a fifteen
Speaker 2: out of ten hard using the exact same weight my body,
Speaker 2: doing the exact same movement a push up, stressing the
Speaker 2: exact same muscles in a different way. So there are
Speaker 2: a lot of ways to increase intensity to make the
Speaker 2: training effects differently different and to get really good results
Speaker 2: with fuck all equipment or what seems to be not
Speaker 2: a lot of options. Remember, your body, your muscles are
Speaker 2: just biological tissues that respond to different stimuli, you know.
Speaker 2: Like for example, even if we go back just to
Speaker 2: the the push up example, so let's say you wanted
Speaker 2: to well, how else could I make it different? All right, Well,
Speaker 2: instead of having two feet on the ground, have one.
Speaker 2: So now instead of having four anchor points, two feet,
Speaker 2: two hands, now you've got three. Oh wow, Yeah, well
Speaker 2: that that's harder. Yeah, that's harder. That's harder because in
Speaker 2: a way, you're lifting more weight. Yeah you're lifting the
Speaker 2: same body weight, but because you've got now you've got
Speaker 2: one foot off the ground, trust me, it's more in
Speaker 2: inverted commas weight or more stress more accurately. Now, now
Speaker 2: do that same thing, but put that foot up on
Speaker 2: a chair and have your hands down on the ground
Speaker 2: and that oh fuck right now. All of these are
Speaker 2: examples of progression. Remember we spoke earlier about adaptation versus progression.
Speaker 2: This is the way that we create a progressive overload
Speaker 2: model of exercise without more equipment or more weight. Okay,
Speaker 2: the next question is how often should I train and
Speaker 2: for how long? Now, literally thousands of people listen to
Speaker 2: this show, So for me to go, oh, everyone should
Speaker 2: do this would be flawed, it would be wrong, it
Speaker 2: would be misleading. And so I'm going to say, I
Speaker 2: think everyone who is capable should do a minimum. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the rockety rock rock bottom. A minimum of
Speaker 2: twenty minutes of strength training three times a week. That's
Speaker 2: what I think, And that is really just based on me,
Speaker 2: just you know, working with people forty five, I think
Speaker 2: ideally I would love people to do somewhere between thirty
Speaker 2: and sixty minutes three times a week. Now, that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean rushing through the workout. That doesn't mean you're in
Speaker 2: the gym for sixty minutes and you're lifting for sixty minutes.
Speaker 2: That just means you're at the gym for thirty to
Speaker 2: sixty and probably about half that time you're actually lifting something.
Speaker 2: So in a thirty minute workout, there might be fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes where you're not lifting anything because you're lifting for
Speaker 2: a minute, you're recovering for a minute. But when you
Speaker 2: leave the gym, you've done fifteen minutes having your muscles
Speaker 2: under stress. So and again, how long you should train,
Speaker 2: how often you should train, how hard you should train.
Speaker 2: These are questions that I can't specifically answer for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: If it was you and me one on one and
Speaker 2: I got to know your story and I got to,
Speaker 2: you know, understand your body and your needs and your goals,
Speaker 2: and your capacity, and your injury history and your medical
Speaker 2: issues if you have any and bah bah bah all
Speaker 2: of that, then I could I could prescribe you a
Speaker 2: program which would be relatively specific to your needs. But
Speaker 2: even with that, we go all right, you know, Sally,
Speaker 2: here's your program based on everything you've told me that
Speaker 2: the conversation, We've had a little bit of testing, we've done,
Speaker 2: but we're still going to see how your body responds.
Speaker 2: We're still going to see how your body responds, and
Speaker 2: we're going to tweak and we're going to adapt as
Speaker 2: we go. Even with my own training, my training varies
Speaker 2: over time as I get older, as I as things change,
Speaker 2: as my shoulder is temporarily fucked, so I've got to
Speaker 2: modify and work around that. And and I guess this
Speaker 2: comes down to, you know, how do you find the
Speaker 2: right program? Well, how you find the right program for
Speaker 2: you look. In an ideal world, you would have someone
Speaker 2: with a lot of knowledge right your program and that
Speaker 2: person with I'm talking about an ideal world. We don't
Speaker 2: live in an ideal world, but some of you might
Speaker 2: be able to make this happen. That is, you find someone.
Speaker 2: You either find a very experienced personal trainer, somebody with
Speaker 2: a lot of knowledge and a lot of experience and
Speaker 2: a lot of runs on the board in terms of
Speaker 2: prescribing exercise, writing programs, working with a broad cross section
Speaker 2: of humans with different bodies and different needs and different environments.
Speaker 2: You need someone who is vastly experienced. No disrespect to
Speaker 2: brand newbies. Everybody's got to start somewhere. But I'm telling
Speaker 2: you what I think is best for you. Like I
Speaker 2: don't want the mechanic that qualified last tuesday to work
Speaker 2: on my car, no disrespect. Everyone's got to start somewhere.
Speaker 2: But if we're talking about how do you find the
Speaker 2: best pro for you, you want someone with experience.
Speaker 1: You want someone with experience, and.
Speaker 2: That program is going to be designed based on your needs,
Speaker 2: your individual physical needs, your body type, and like I said,
Speaker 2: medical stuff, injury stuff, and also the specific goals that
Speaker 2: you have, like what is it that you want to
Speaker 2: do and be and change and optimize.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It might be I want to build upper body muscle strength.
Speaker 2: I want to strengthen my weak, shitty lower back. I
Speaker 2: want to lower my blood pressure. I worked with someone
Speaker 2: recently who one of their main goals is to increase
Speaker 2: grip strength because they've got really like really weak hands
Speaker 2: and really you know, and they've got other goals, but
Speaker 2: they're like, how.
Speaker 1: Do I do that?
Speaker 2: And I said, go get yourself a rubber ball or
Speaker 2: a tennis ball or something that's pretty pumped up, pretty hard,
Speaker 2: and just squeeze that motherfucker all day, or not all day,
Speaker 2: but every now and then.
Speaker 1: Think of it.
Speaker 2: Squeeze right hand, ten reps, left hand ten reps, you know,
Speaker 2: squeeze in hold five, let it out, squeeze, you know whatever,
Speaker 2: just doing different. Like bodies are adaptable, muscles are adaptable.
Speaker 2: So what is it that you want with your body?
Speaker 2: It might just be, you know what harps overall. Overall,
Speaker 2: I just want to be functional. I just want to
Speaker 2: be able to do life with minimal pain, with optimal
Speaker 2: ease in terms of being able to, you know, navigate
Speaker 2: all the practical requirements of moving my body and doing
Speaker 2: the things that I need to do. You know what
Speaker 2: was interesting. And if you didn't see it and you
Speaker 2: don't follow me, then go to my Facebook page. I've
Speaker 2: got two face if you like. I've got two Facebook pages.
Speaker 2: One is a professional one, which is I think the
Speaker 2: photo of me is gray, like a black and white,
Speaker 2: and the other one is a color photo that that
Speaker 2: one is my personal one. And there's I've got like
Speaker 2: five thousand friends and thirty thousand followers or something. Jump
Speaker 2: on there and just follow me if you want. But
Speaker 2: my long winded.
Speaker 1: Point is.
Speaker 2: Yesterday I had coffee, so I'm recording this Saturday, two
Speaker 2: thirty eight pm. Yesterday morning, Friday, I had coffee with
Speaker 2: some friends of mine, Jan and Ian. And Jan used
Speaker 2: to work for me. They've actually been on the show.
Speaker 2: They've actually been on the show. I'm going to get
Speaker 2: them back on. Jan is eighty four years young, Ian
Speaker 2: is eighty six, and they are both fucking amazing. I
Speaker 2: mean that's not me being positive or me being glowing.
Speaker 2: They are incredible. For Ian is eighty six, and Ian
Speaker 2: moves and seems and has the energy of Again, this
Speaker 2: is just my observation and my anecdotal judgment. But I've
Speaker 2: worked with fucking thousands of humans, so I think I'm
Speaker 2: a pretty good judge. This eighty six year old dude
Speaker 2: is like a fit, strong, functional sixty year old. I
Speaker 2: mean at eighty six, it is crazy. I mean, this
Speaker 2: guy's eighty six and can do overhand, full body, full range.
Speaker 2: I should say, chin ups right up, right down. Eighty
Speaker 2: six years old. The average eighty six year old could
Speaker 2: not hold their body weight for two seconds, maybe five,
Speaker 2: probably zero. And by the way, if you're eighty six
Speaker 2: and have never done that, don't try right now.
Speaker 1: Let's build up to that. Now.
Speaker 2: These guys train every day, they do something. And so
Speaker 2: he does weights three or four days a week. He
Speaker 2: splits it up.
Speaker 1: Into upper body and lower body.
Speaker 2: He does he does standing paddle board two times a
Speaker 2: week for five and a half kilometers. So he stands
Speaker 2: on a paddle board in the bay, on the in
Speaker 2: the in the sea, and he paddles five and a
Speaker 2: half kilometers. He paddles for I think it's Blackrock to
Speaker 2: Halfman Bay of black Rock, or vice versa. Anyway, he
Speaker 2: rides his mountain bike every you know, every second day
Speaker 2: or so. He lifts weights. His wife, Jan is eighty four.
Speaker 2: She does boxing once a week, She trains so boxing
Speaker 2: with a trainer once a week, she does strength training
Speaker 2: with a trainer once a week. She does strength training
Speaker 2: by herself twice a week, and then she hooks up
Speaker 2: with her girlfriends and goes and walks the stairs and
Speaker 2: the ramps at the beach. Now, what I love about
Speaker 2: these two is they are doing exactly what I am
Speaker 2: talking about today. They are. Now you think they're genetically
Speaker 2: completely differently because their husband and wife they're not genetically related,
Speaker 2: but they are both absolutely outstandingly functional and operational, not
Speaker 2: because they're genetically gifted, but because they are doing these things,
Speaker 2: Like they have both been strength training for decades, and
Speaker 2: now what they get to enjoy is a biological age
Speaker 2: and a level of function that is, I would guess
Speaker 2: decades younger than the calendar decade, younger than.
Speaker 1: Their chronological age.
Speaker 2: And so, you know, this is the beauty of being
Speaker 2: able to get over this fucking story that we have
Speaker 2: in our culture of what is age appropriate. You know,
Speaker 2: we base activities for certain people on you know, we go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you're this old, therefore you should what you should bowl
Speaker 2: or you should sit in a circle of chairs and
Speaker 2: hit balloons around to each other. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be disparaging, but the fox's sake, what we need is
Speaker 2: we need old people getting strong and proactively being encouraged. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we've got to work with what we've got, the limitations
Speaker 2: they have, of course, and we can't all go into
Speaker 2: the gym. And you know, gung Ho, I understand that.
Speaker 2: I understand that, but you know what that the human
Speaker 2: body is fucking incredibly adaptable and resilient. And you know,
Speaker 2: one of the things that we're doing now, a friend
Speaker 2: of mine, Robin Robin Vincent, has got an organization called
Speaker 2: Strength Over Cancer. She's a fucking gun good a rob
Speaker 2: I hope you're listening to this Strength over Cancer, and
Speaker 2: you know she's working with and all of She's got
Speaker 2: this great organization and these great people that volunteer their
Speaker 2: time to work with people who are battling or dealing with,
Speaker 2: navigating whatever you want to call it, the cancer journey.
Speaker 2: And we know now and even people who are in
Speaker 2: the mid midst of chemotherapy and radio radiation therapy who
Speaker 2: are doing strength training, because we know that that's strength training,
Speaker 2: even for people who are in the middle of chemo
Speaker 2: and the cancer journey can be check with your doctor
Speaker 2: and all that. Don't jump in because I said it,
Speaker 2: but it can be protective and they are getting some
Speaker 2: amazing results strength training. Honestly, it's like, you know, if
Speaker 2: we could produce, if we could you know what I'm
Speaker 2: going to say, don't you, If we could produce a
Speaker 2: drug that has the psychological, the physiological, biological, emotional, practical,
Speaker 2: real world benefits of strength training, if we had a
Speaker 2: that would be hands down the most popular, biggest selling,
Speaker 2: most profitable drug in the history of mankind. But there
Speaker 2: is no fucking magic pill, and the pill in inverted
Speaker 2: commas that we need to take. Strength training is not quick, fun, easy,
Speaker 2: or painless. It's not without effort, it's not without sacrifice.
Speaker 2: So in a world that is obsessed with quick fixes
Speaker 2: and instant gratification and magic pills and safety nets and
Speaker 2: you know, two minute abs, it is so important that
Speaker 2: we get our mind in the right place to get
Speaker 2: our body in the right place. I've got a bit
Speaker 2: of evangelical then didn't I do that? I'm nearly done.
Speaker 2: I've got two questions. My second last question is how
Speaker 2: hard should I train? I've kind of answered it. But
Speaker 2: the answer is initially not hard at all. Like I said,
Speaker 2: the first four to eight weeks, apart from all the
Speaker 2: other stuff I said, you're just trying to build a
Speaker 2: training base. You're trying not to get injured, you're trying
Speaker 2: to stay safe, You're trying to build a relationship with
Speaker 2: strength training and dumbells and barbells, etc. But once you're
Speaker 2: on the journey, and now you've been training for a while,
Speaker 2: you've got some strength. You've got a bit of strength,
Speaker 2: you've got some technique, you've got some understanding, you know
Speaker 2: how to do things well. Then you can, with the
Speaker 2: right technique, being sensible and intelligent and strategic, you can
Speaker 2: train pretty fucking hard, pretty hard. I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: in a silly or reckless way, but you would be surprised,
Speaker 2: Like you just heard me tell you what Ian does.
Speaker 2: Ian's eighty six. Ian is, like I said, is like
Speaker 2: someone thirty years younger, twenty five years younger, and he
Speaker 2: trains for an eighty six year old man stupidly hard,
Speaker 2: stupidly hard, but it ain't stupid because he's programmed and
Speaker 2: conditioned and work towards that literally decade. So we don't
Speaker 2: want to train over the top. We don't want to
Speaker 2: train too much or too long or too hard, but
Speaker 2: we also want to train at a level where our
Speaker 2: body has to adapt. Remember we've spoken earlier about maintenance
Speaker 2: and progression. If we want our body to progress, we
Speaker 2: need to be training at a level, at an intensity,
Speaker 2: with enough variety so that there is a genuine need
Speaker 2: for adaptation, improvement, growth, transformation. And my last question is Harps,
Speaker 2: I didn't write that. I'm just saying that, Harps, what
Speaker 2: about recovery?
Speaker 1: Good question.
Speaker 2: So what we're doing in the gym is we're stimulating
Speaker 2: this adaptive response. But it's really when we're not at
Speaker 2: the gym that the good stuff happens, the growing, the recovery,
Speaker 2: the improvement, the adaptation. All we're doing in the gym
Speaker 2: is we're just stimulating that adaptive response. So how long
Speaker 2: you will have between workouts will vary.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, as.
Speaker 2: A really rough bro science guide, i would not be
Speaker 2: training the same muscle groups in terms of length, training
Speaker 2: more than every third day. So I wouldn't be going
Speaker 2: in on Monday training my chest and then back in
Speaker 2: on Tuesday train and my chest, or maybe even Wednesday
Speaker 2: it might be Thursday. So again this is not a recommendation,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people and it seems to work
Speaker 2: quite well, tend to come around and they do what's
Speaker 2: called a split routine, by the way, which is where
Speaker 2: we just break up the muscle groups to train them
Speaker 2: on different days. It's not necessarily if strength is your goal,
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily a good idea to go in the
Speaker 2: gym and train chest and back and shoulders and biceps
Speaker 2: and triceps and lower back and abs and quads and
Speaker 2: hamstrings and glutes and carbs all on the oneday. It's
Speaker 2: good to break that stuff up and so recovery between workouts.
Speaker 2: Or you can train every day, but you're not training
Speaker 2: the same things every day.
Speaker 1: By the way, you don't need to train every day.
Speaker 1: And a really good.
Speaker 2: A really good guide for some people is three on
Speaker 2: one off maybe, which is where we do we might
Speaker 2: do let's say, and this is an example, not a prescription,
Speaker 2: I might do chest and arms on day one, and
Speaker 2: then day two I do all lower body, lower back
Speaker 2: and lower body, and then day three because I did
Speaker 2: chest and arms on day one, day three I do
Speaker 2: shoulders and back, and then day four I have off
Speaker 2: so that's a recovery day in this program that I'm hypothesizing.
Speaker 2: But what that means is on day one, I'm doing
Speaker 2: upper body, day two, I'm doing lower body. Day three
Speaker 2: I'm doing upper body, and day four I'm having off.
Speaker 2: So I'm never doing upper body two days in a row.
Speaker 2: I'm never doing legs two days in a row. Or
Speaker 2: it might just be upper body day off, lower body
Speaker 2: day off, upper body day off, lower body day off,
Speaker 2: upper body day off, low it whatever, but your body
Speaker 2: will tell you.
Speaker 1: Your body will tell you.
Speaker 2: All right, team, I just spoke for about an hour
Speaker 2: and ten minutes sitting in a room by myself. It
Speaker 2: only took me about fifteen goals at this fucking podcast.
Speaker 2: If you enjoyed it, I hope you do something with it.
Speaker 2: If you want to give me some feedback on it,
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Speaker 2: tell me if you enjoyed it, because if you tell
Speaker 2: me not to stroke my ego, but then I might
Speaker 2: do something similar, I might open the door on some
Speaker 2: more conversations. Obviously, the vast majority of what I'm doing
Speaker 2: at the moment, you know, is either conversations with people
Speaker 2: about their stuff, but invariably we're talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: a high performance from a cognitive and emotional and psychological
Speaker 2: and behavioral point of view. But I you know, also
Speaker 2: I acknowledge that we all live in a body, and
Speaker 2: you can't get one, you can't get another one, that
Speaker 2: the one that you've got is your one, that's your addition.
Speaker 2: You can't you know, you can't fuck it up and
Speaker 2: then just go order another one. So I'm also of
Speaker 2: the opinion that we all need to really prioritize our
Speaker 2: body from the point of view that when we look
Speaker 2: after our body, we look after everything, because doing life
Speaker 2: in a body that's broken or unhealthy or on the
Speaker 2: way to being broken or unhealthy is no way to
Speaker 2: do life. All right, love your guts is see you
Speaker 2: next time.