Speaker 1: Late welcome the Late Debate.
Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. If
Speaker 3: you think local government in Australia gets pretty crazy, wait
Speaker 3: until we show you a mayoral debate in Brazil. It
Speaker 3: ends with one candidate being hit over the head with
Speaker 3: a chair, as happens in meyoral debates as well. We'll
Speaker 3: look at what's making news in the papers tomorrow. Good
Speaker 3: news for mortgage holders are rumors of four rate cuts
Speaker 3: next year, but can we really believe it? And more
Speaker 3: immigration bungling by the federal labor government that's on tomorrow's
Speaker 3: front page of The Australian.
Speaker 2: Will show you that as well.
Speaker 3: But first, Queers for Palestine activists around the world have
Speaker 3: been given a challenge, a one million dollar prize to
Speaker 3: whoever is brave enough to stage a gay pride rally
Speaker 3: in Gaza or in the West Bank. So all those
Speaker 3: protesters insisting Thatian liberation and gay liberation are one and
Speaker 3: the same thing now have a chance to prove it,
Speaker 3: and if they do, as I said, they get a
Speaker 3: million dollars in prize money. Spoiler alert, I don't think
Speaker 3: that million dollars is going anywhere. The money has been
Speaker 3: put up by an American organization called New Tolerance Campaign. Now,
Speaker 3: the president of that organization is himself a gay man,
Speaker 3: Gregory Angelo, and he says the offer of a million
Speaker 3: dollars is legit. It's not a stunt, he told the media.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 3: This campaign emerged to call out these purported activists of
Speaker 3: LGBTQ equality and to put our money where their mouths are.
Speaker 3: I think this is a real opportunity for these groups
Speaker 3: to legitimately step up and host an event that would
Speaker 3: either highlight the fact that the Palestinian territories are not
Speaker 3: indeed a good place for LGBTQ individuals to be living,
Speaker 3: or it could be a breakthrough moment for pluralism and
Speaker 3: peace in the Middle East. Well, give that man a
Speaker 3: medal for optimism. The only floor and see in this
Speaker 3: offer is that the organizers have not put any time
Speaker 3: restriction on how long that gay pride parade has to
Speaker 3: last in order for you to qualify for the million dollars.
Speaker 3: I suggest if anyone tries it, it may be over
Speaker 3: fairly quickly. Of course, never mind what the LGBTQ quiz
Speaker 3: for Palestine activists say the fact is that Islamic nations
Speaker 3: are not kind to gay people. Typically, they're imprisoned, stoned, hung,
Speaker 3: or thrown from rooftops.
Speaker 2: Have listened.
Speaker 4: As a gay man, I would be punished and or
Speaker 4: put in prisoner killed if I were opened again in Palestine.
Speaker 4: How do you react to that?
Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: So it is illegal to be gay in Palestine. You
Speaker 4: are punished by prison or Jazz Israel. No Israel has
Speaker 4: gay parade. Israel is completely open to with lesbian and
Speaker 4: gay people. Palestine puts them in prisoner kills them. You
Speaker 4: weren't aware of that.
Speaker 2: I was not aware of that.
Speaker 5: No, so that does pose an interesting aspect.
Speaker 3: It does pose an interesting aspect, interesting challenge, Liz, A
Speaker 3: million dollars.
Speaker 2: It's a legitimate offer.
Speaker 3: Anyone who wants to go to Gaza or the West
Speaker 3: Bank and put on a gay pride parade a million bucks.
Speaker 3: Someone will do it, won't they.
Speaker 5: This is weapons grade trolling, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 5: I absolutely love it. The more of this, the better.
Speaker 6: Satire is such an underrated weapon in the culture wars
Speaker 6: because he's outwardly said.
Speaker 5: I am being dead serious.
Speaker 6: I don't want this dismissed is some sort of I'm
Speaker 6: poking fun. I am being dead serious. If you want
Speaker 6: to hold this rally in Gaza, if you want to
Speaker 6: go to Palestine and be all queers for Palestine Palestinian liberation,
Speaker 6: go for it.
Speaker 5: On my dollar. I'll sponsor the whole thing. And no takers,
Speaker 5: No takers yet. I mean, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 6: I'm almost tempted to have a whack at it just
Speaker 6: for this cash money. But the woman that you showed
Speaker 6: in that clip, by the way, as that pop vox continues,
Speaker 6: literally says, and this is to go to show how
Speaker 6: genuinely ignorant.
Speaker 5: These people are.
Speaker 6: As the drag queen keeps asking her questions, she genuinely.
Speaker 5: Says to him in all seriousness, but Israel's Muslim country too,
Speaker 5: isn't it?
Speaker 6: Literally talk about not having a clue.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 7: This is just brilliant, and the downfall of it might
Speaker 7: actually be, apart from the fact that there's no timeline
Speaker 7: on it, that someone one of these Quiz for Palestine
Speaker 7: activists may actually give it a go because they don't
Speaker 7: have any idea about how they would be treated if
Speaker 7: they gave it a go. The insurance policy might be
Speaker 7: that he won't have to pay it out because that
Speaker 7: person won't end up coming back to the West. They
Speaker 7: will either be in prison or did. But good on
Speaker 7: him for so Look, if you're really.
Speaker 1: That invested in this portion, then go and prove it.
Speaker 7: Because so many of these activists, whether they be quiers
Speaker 7: for Palestine or the people who set up tents at
Speaker 7: out the front of the universities across the country. You know,
Speaker 7: they're all high and mighty there and this is the
Speaker 7: biggest problem on earth, and we care about it so much.
Speaker 7: A million dollars is there. None of them are going
Speaker 7: to do it because AD that don't really understand what
Speaker 7: they're campaigning for, and b they don't really care. It's
Speaker 7: just that Israel and Gaza is the topic dujuur at
Speaker 7: the moment.
Speaker 1: So they're going to jump on anything they can possibly
Speaker 1: jump on. Do it. Go on, I want to see
Speaker 1: you do it. It will be a beautiful thing.
Speaker 7: In fact, we're going to start running a little counter thing,
Speaker 7: I think in the corner of the screen there every night,
Speaker 7: you know, days since the offer has been made and
Speaker 7: no one's taken it up. Because this is a genuine
Speaker 7: offer and This is what we need, as you say,
Speaker 7: is to see more of.
Speaker 1: Till these activists.
Speaker 7: If you really care, put your money your mountains, or
Speaker 7: at least put your sensibilities ahead of everything else, and
Speaker 7: go and give it a go.
Speaker 1: Let's see how it turns out.
Speaker 6: And he literally said, I do not want this understood
Speaker 6: as a publicity stunt.
Speaker 5: I am dead serious. The money's on.
Speaker 6: The table, get your skates on. You do wonder whether
Speaker 6: the liabilities would stand for any kind of security needs
Speaker 6: around such an investment in Gaza, But I doubt we'll
Speaker 6: get to see how that ends, because it will go
Speaker 6: absolutely nowhere, as a simple Google would tell those quis
Speaker 6: for Palestine to.
Speaker 5: A local story.
Speaker 6: Now, remember last month we were talking about how Sydney
Speaker 6: Water hadn't tested for pfas in our water catchment. So
Speaker 6: they had been telling us for a very long time,
Speaker 6: don't worry about forever chemicals in your drinking water. There
Speaker 6: is none, at least we don't know that there is any,
Speaker 6: because we haven't tested for any.
Speaker 5: Then they tested for some and.
Speaker 8: Found some, but they said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 6: They quietly were this information on their website.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about it. It's all under control and it's
Speaker 5: really not that bad.
Speaker 6: Well, today we discover that the p fass situation in
Speaker 6: this particular water catchment up in the Blue Mountains is
Speaker 6: white hot.
Speaker 5: We are told by these experts.
Speaker 6: To quote Western Sydney University water scientist Ian Wright, he said,
Speaker 6: the results are white hot.
Speaker 5: We have gone in a couple of months from there
Speaker 5: are no hot spots in.
Speaker 6: The catchment area to these very disturbing results. The only
Speaker 6: difference is that now we've started testing, so they've found
Speaker 6: these pa fas chemicals. They've detected levels more than fifty
Speaker 6: times higher than Australian drinking water standards. Keep in mind,
Speaker 6: Australian drinking water standards allow an amount of pfas in
Speaker 6: your drinking water one hundred and forty times higher than
Speaker 6: the maximum levels the US allows just in the US.
Speaker 6: In Europe, Australia's daily tolerable intake is two hundred and
Speaker 6: eighty times more than the amount deemed safe by the European.
Speaker 5: Food Safety Authority.
Speaker 6: So safe to say when they say that Australia's situation
Speaker 6: with pfas at the moment is an international embarrassment, they're
Speaker 6: not being dramatic.
Speaker 5: What is being done about this. You asked absolutely nothing.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think we can safely say nothing.
Speaker 6: Given it with Senator Lydia Thorpe, who has been made
Speaker 6: chairman of some sort of committee.
Speaker 5: That's supposed to be looking into this.
Speaker 6: Talk about a government telling you we're not making this
Speaker 6: top priority. Keep in mind, these are forever chemicals. There's
Speaker 6: about fourteen thousand of them. When we're talking about pfases,
Speaker 6: we're talking about fourteen thousand different chemicals. They're referred to
Speaker 6: as forever chemicals because they don't break down in your body,
Speaker 6: and they don't break down in the atmosphe. They are
Speaker 6: indeed forever, and they have very real health impacts, even
Speaker 6: very worrying links to cancer. There's a reason why the
Speaker 6: US says it is spending a quarter of a trillion
Speaker 6: dollars a year on the health impacts that p fas
Speaker 6: in the bodies of Americans are having on their health system.
Speaker 6: There's no word of a lie. They actually estimate it
Speaker 6: would be more than that, but that's a conservative estimate
Speaker 6: because it is in fact linked to so many health complications.
Speaker 5: They're just trying to stay on top of it all.
Speaker 6: This is something that our government has ignored for so long.
Speaker 6: Most everyday people aren't even aware that this stuff is
Speaker 6: in your food. It's in your food packaging, it's in
Speaker 6: your tupperware, ladies, it's in your makeup and your hygiene products.
Speaker 6: It's in your toothfloss, you name it.
Speaker 5: You can find p fasts there.
Speaker 6: And this is just day after day building up in
Speaker 6: people's bodies. And the insidious nature of this is that
Speaker 6: if later in life, after you've had this build up,
Speaker 6: you do have certain health complications, the last thing that
Speaker 6: you're going to think of doing is blaming it on pfas.
Speaker 5: And even if you could, who are you going to sue?
Speaker 6: Who are you going to get any kind of recriminations from?
Speaker 6: Who are you going to get a payout from? When
Speaker 6: all these manufacturers of countless different products are just doing
Speaker 6: this willy nilly, and the government refuses to do anything
Speaker 6: because corporate greed reigns and rules supreme, and the government
Speaker 6: knows we're not going to put the clamp down on
Speaker 6: all these different industries that a multimillion dollar, multi billion
Speaker 6: dollar industries sot it to.
Speaker 5: The health of our people.
Speaker 6: It's just business as usual. It's utterly infuriating.
Speaker 7: We recently show a study on this program, and I
Speaker 7: think it found that it was about five percent of
Speaker 7: the weight that were finding in people's brains was microplastics.
Speaker 1: Right, So he accumulates in the.
Speaker 7: Body, it cannot be expelled and if it's coming into
Speaker 7: places like your brain, then you're going to be seriously worried.
Speaker 7: And I know we've highlighted this before, but the fact
Speaker 7: that the New South Wales federal government said that we
Speaker 7: don't believe there's anything to worry about because we haven't
Speaker 7: tested for p fats because we don't believe there's any
Speaker 7: prefats in the water. It's like I'd likened it last
Speaker 7: time to you know, on colleges saying well, I'm not
Speaker 7: going to check if there might be any cancer in
Speaker 7: your body because I don't believe at this point that.
Speaker 2: There is any cancer.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's going to go really well, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It comes down to pure laziness.
Speaker 5: And by the way, the negligence anty times.
Speaker 7: That was found in the dam by this particular scientist,
Speaker 7: he also found in a catchment that feeds into the.
Speaker 1: Dam two hundreds of times, right.
Speaker 2: Which is just extraordinary.
Speaker 7: But given that the US has most recently made moves
Speaker 7: on this and severely restricted the amount that is allowed
Speaker 7: to be found in potable drinking water.
Speaker 1: You gave them numb from Europe.
Speaker 7: There, the fact like it's being done across the world,
Speaker 7: the fact that the Australian government just sort of sits
Speaker 7: on its hands and says, ah, well, we don't really
Speaker 7: think this is anything to worry about.
Speaker 2: At the moment.
Speaker 1: What about the rest of the world. They're moving on it.
Speaker 1: Why don't you want to move on it.
Speaker 7: It's not as though there isn't precedent being seid across
Speaker 7: the western world.
Speaker 8: Here.
Speaker 3: There's a number of really interesting lessons from this. Firstly,
Speaker 3: you should never underestimate the ineptitude of government bureaucracy.
Speaker 2: As you've both pointed out.
Speaker 3: They said there's no need to test because we have
Speaker 3: no evidence of PFAS, and the reason we have no
Speaker 3: evidence is because we've done no tests. So it's this
Speaker 3: wonderful circular argument that's very self serving.
Speaker 2: The second lesson is.
Speaker 3: Just how important good journalism is, because if it wasn't
Speaker 3: for the Sydney Morning Herald doing an investigation, they were
Speaker 3: the ones who commissioned this scientist ye to go and
Speaker 3: do a proper study, then it would be situation normal
Speaker 3: and water New South Wales cannot say, or have not said,
Speaker 3: or will not say how long water was flowing with
Speaker 3: pfas levels elevated until.
Speaker 2: It was recognized.
Speaker 3: And then third, it makes you wonder if there's elevated
Speaker 3: levels of pfas in these water catchment areas for the
Speaker 3: Blue Mountains, in what other parts of Australia Is pfas
Speaker 3: a significant part of the water supply And we just
Speaker 3: don't know because a bureaucracy, a bureaucrat hasn't been motivated
Speaker 3: to get off his ass. And then fourth, they still
Speaker 3: haven't found the source of this pfas. They're still trying
Speaker 3: to work it out. Is it come from, even suggesting
Speaker 3: it could have come from road accidents where firefighters have
Speaker 3: used foam on a highway that's not far from a
Speaker 3: water source. The other concern is that it's in the
Speaker 3: water table itself and so they may never be able
Speaker 3: to completely get rid of it.
Speaker 1: He would have seen into the water table. But of
Speaker 1: course the suggestion that it is coming from firefighting phone
Speaker 1: is quite legitimate.
Speaker 7: But they have known about that for at least a decade.
Speaker 7: Federal government has been paying our compensation to people whose
Speaker 7: land has been infected by pfas needs to air wrapt bases.
Speaker 1: All they've used this farfludas.
Speaker 5: In training exercises.
Speaker 7: They've been aware of that for decades and yet they
Speaker 7: still have not.
Speaker 1: Made any movement on it. And I know they will
Speaker 1: argue that it is difficult, because it is absolutely everybody.
Speaker 8: Oh oh well, if it's difficult, god forbid, you put
Speaker 8: the health of twenty five million Australians first and actually
Speaker 8: do your due diligence.
Speaker 5: As per the numbers from.
Speaker 6: The American health sector, saying that so many people are
Speaker 6: sick due to the side effects of these chemicals found
Speaker 6: in everything from your disposable coffee cup, microplastics. Everywhere people
Speaker 6: are ingesting these on a daily basis.
Speaker 5: Yes, it will cost a lot of.
Speaker 6: Money to get this right in any country, but like
Speaker 6: you say, at.
Speaker 5: Least others are trying. It is worth it nothing.
Speaker 6: We can all agree. Nothing is worth more than one's
Speaker 6: personal health.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 6: If you don't have your health, your quality of life
Speaker 6: is not half of what it could be. Everyone knows
Speaker 6: it's the most valuable thing that every individual has, and
Speaker 6: this government doesn't give a.
Speaker 3: Rich and the irony is we're continually told and warned
Speaker 3: about the fact that Australia's being left behind by other countries,
Speaker 3: whether it's with regards renewables or whether it's regards for
Speaker 3: rights for certain identity groups. We've got to catch up
Speaker 3: with the rest of the world otherwise we're going to
Speaker 3: be seen as laggards. But when it comes to something
Speaker 3: as serious as this, well, the government's conducting a review
Speaker 3: and who knows when that will be completed, And as
Speaker 3: you said, with Lydia Thorpe leading the charge on some
Speaker 3: of these things, god knows.
Speaker 2: If you've done.
Speaker 6: The main difference between these issues is the others that
Speaker 6: you named are government a genders.
Speaker 5: They've got a dog in the fight.
Speaker 6: There's a reason why, oh Australia can't be seen as
Speaker 6: a laggart in this area. But when it's just concerning
Speaker 6: my health and your health and your children's children's children,
Speaker 6: because this is only going to get worse over successive generations. Again,
Speaker 6: if these chemicals don't break down, we're literally just filling
Speaker 6: up the world with them. Then oh no, no, no,
Speaker 6: this is fine. It's perfectly okay to be a lagger.
Speaker 6: This isn't the government doesn't have a dog in this fight.
Speaker 5: We couldn't care less. Let's not pay attention to this.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to work out, Caleb, which is the better
Speaker 3: troll on the public? Is it Kamala Harris being responsible
Speaker 3: for protecting humanity from AI or is it Lydia thought
Speaker 3: being responsible to protect our brains from plastic?
Speaker 7: Probably on the same level, I'd suggest Lydia Thorpe has
Speaker 7: already been affected by high levels of plastic in her brain.
Speaker 7: One thing we don't want to follow the rest of
Speaker 7: the world on is a convention that is set to
Speaker 7: be ratified by the UN this month. Now, this has
Speaker 7: already been approved by a committee of the UN put
Speaker 7: forward by Russia and China, and you'd think that would
Speaker 7: set alarm bells off, But the majority of the UN
Speaker 7: is supporting this convention on cyber crime. You might go, okay, cybercrime,
Speaker 7: Sam's like something that we'd want to crack down on.
Speaker 7: But this comes at the same time as we brought
Speaker 7: you the story last night about Queen's Land heavily restricting
Speaker 7: free speech in their state. We of course have the
Speaker 7: Misinformation Disinformation Bill that has been introduced at a federal
Speaker 7: level here.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 7: Now, the UN says that in the name of combating
Speaker 7: cyber crime, they basically want to give governments across the
Speaker 7: world unprecedented ability to share online information, online data with
Speaker 7: each other to combat what they call serious crime.
Speaker 1: But the threshold for deciding.
Speaker 7: What a serious crime is is the two governments agree
Speaker 7: that a crime is serious.
Speaker 1: So that could be anything.
Speaker 7: It could be that you are criticizing the prime minister
Speaker 7: or the leader of a country. It could be that
Speaker 7: you are putting misinformation online.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 7: Two governments simply have to agree that it is a
Speaker 7: serious crime, and then they'll have special abilities to gain
Speaker 7: data that the otherwise would not have. Now, this, as
Speaker 7: you can imagine, is a major threat to the free press,
Speaker 7: and in the United States journalists are fighting tooth and
Speaker 7: nail again this. They've actually been taking out full page
Speaker 7: ads in newspapers warning of what is going to come
Speaker 7: if this is passed.
Speaker 1: This is one of those full page ads.
Speaker 7: Where they say protect journalists, reject a new global surveillance treaty.
Speaker 7: For more than three years, you and Member States have
Speaker 7: been negotiating new global convention to combat cybercrime introduced.
Speaker 1: By Russia with the support.
Speaker 7: Of China, Iran and other authoritarian regimes, it has expanded
Speaker 7: to become a broad criminal instrument that gives authorities far
Speaker 7: reaching surveillance and investigatory powers both at home and abroad,
Speaker 7: with weak safeguards to prevent overreach and abuse. They warn
Speaker 7: that it could give spy capabilities to track down and
Speaker 7: punish journalists and give repressive regimes even more tools for
Speaker 7: targeting and muzzling the press, which is of course what
Speaker 7: any government would want when they believe that people are
Speaker 7: saying things that might be negative towards them right. One
Speaker 7: expert who has done a deep dive into what this
Speaker 7: convention would be on data ax says that unfortunately, a
Speaker 7: data access treaty has been drawn up that will allow
Speaker 7: governments around the world to exchange citizens' personal information in
Speaker 7: perpetual secrecy in the event of any crime the two
Speaker 7: governments agree. Is serious as I was talking about before.
Speaker 7: He says, this would include eavesdropping on location and real
Speaker 7: time communications around the world. It would force it workers
Speaker 7: to divulge passwords or other access keys that would compromise
Speaker 7: the security of global systems that billions of people rely
Speaker 7: on every day, and it's not just private sector systems.
Speaker 7: Government systems are also at risk, and we know exactly
Speaker 7: how much data government collects on us.
Speaker 1: This could potentially.
Speaker 7: Open up the possibility for foreign governments to gain access
Speaker 7: to your data from governments on the other side of
Speaker 7: the world. Nick Ashtonhart is his name. He also goes
Speaker 7: on to point out other ridiculous parts of this convention.
Speaker 7: He says, incredibly, the text expressly allows governments to prosecute
Speaker 7: children for sexting in the same article that is supposed
Speaker 7: to protect them from sexual predators. The article also puts
Speaker 7: people working in charities who help bring predators to justice
Speaker 7: at risk of prosecution because they need access to material
Speaker 7: created by predators as part of their work. Civil society
Speaker 7: advocates have repeatedly pointed out this obvious deficiency, but to
Speaker 7: no avail. This is set to be ratified by the
Speaker 7: UN this month. This is not just a problem in
Speaker 7: Australia with misinformation disinformation. This is a global push right
Speaker 7: now that has gone right to the top at the UN.
Speaker 7: An idea pushed by the most authoritarian regimes in the world, Russia, China,
Speaker 7: Iran and the United Nations is set to it's not
Speaker 7: veto to.
Speaker 1: Go ahead with it. It is absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 3: This is typical of what governments are doing now, where
Speaker 3: they're writing laws and they're being deliberately vague so that
Speaker 3: things that you and I would approve of specifically, they
Speaker 3: write these orders and theseus pieces of legislation so that
Speaker 3: they can be used for all sorts of generalities that
Speaker 3: you and I never imagined. And so our own government
Speaker 3: now is talking about things like hate and things like harm,
Speaker 3: but God knows what they mean by those terms. They
Speaker 3: talk about misinformation disinformation, which allows them to be arbiters
Speaker 3: of everything. And we've got the same situation now happening
Speaker 3: at the United Nations, where they're proposing to fight cyber crime,
Speaker 3: but the definition of cyber crime is so broad and
Speaker 3: so general it leaves open all these possibilities and they
Speaker 3: could be specific about it. And in fact, more than
Speaker 3: one hundred human rights organizations wrote to the United Nations
Speaker 3: urging them, when you're putting this proposal together, could you
Speaker 3: please consider human rights issues at the forefront of your thinking.
Speaker 3: Liz laughs because he knows human rights isn't exactly what
Speaker 3: the United Nations is known for, and of course they
Speaker 3: have ignored all of those please legislation, so it can
Speaker 3: be used by the most authoritarian regimes on Earth to
Speaker 3: essentially crack down on people they consider.
Speaker 2: To be dangerous or dissonance i e. People who agree
Speaker 2: disagree with them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all of these, all of these bills, legislation.
Speaker 5: And now on a global scale at the US say
Speaker 5: they're all for the government's good.
Speaker 6: They're all for the global elites, which I refer to
Speaker 6: as the parasitic class, because they don't create anything. They
Speaker 6: don't make anything, they don't build anything.
Speaker 5: They just leach.
Speaker 6: Off us plubs at the bottom of the food chain,
Speaker 6: while dictating what we can and can't do, in this case,
Speaker 6: what we can and can't say, who we can and
Speaker 6: can't associate with. You don't know who amongst your friends.
Speaker 6: It might be now considered a crime to even be
Speaker 6: associated with them. There is no end to this, as
Speaker 6: we were discussing last night. If the Feds don't do it,
Speaker 6: if they don't pass their Misinformation Disinformation Bill, the hate
Speaker 6: Speech Bill, the States are already onto it. The States
Speaker 6: are already filling the gap. This is exactly what we
Speaker 6: saw after the Voice was comprehensively voted down. The States
Speaker 6: had already the horse had bolted. Every single state in
Speaker 6: this country already had their own QUASI the Voice to
Speaker 6: Parliament ready to go. Some of them had already implemented
Speaker 6: it before Australia even went to a vote on this issue.
Speaker 6: So this just goes to show.
Speaker 5: They're going to get you one way or another.
Speaker 6: Either it's the FEDS, either it's the state governments. And
Speaker 6: now we have this global entity, this one world government
Speaker 6: that I like to refer to the un AS because
Speaker 6: that's essentially what it is. They're going to do it
Speaker 6: at the upper echelons, and we all know the pressure
Speaker 6: that they apply to the countries who sign up to
Speaker 6: their treaties, to their conventions. I studied it at length
Speaker 6: when I did my master's degree in human rights, and
Speaker 6: let me tell you, this thing has more red flags
Speaker 6: than Chinese military parade.
Speaker 5: But guess what.
Speaker 6: The General Assembly only needs forty ya's for this thing
Speaker 6: to get across the line, So you can bet your
Speaker 6: bottom dollar it's as good as past.
Speaker 3: The good thing for us is that Anthony Alberanezi we
Speaker 3: quoted him last night talking about that.
Speaker 2: You know, we're pushing back against.
Speaker 3: Big tech because how dare they violate our national sovereignty.
Speaker 3: So I can't imagine the labor governments signing up to this.
Speaker 2: United Nations.
Speaker 3: Anthony Alberanzi will look after our national sovereigny.
Speaker 5: Is like great problems, so and I can drop this.
Speaker 5: They've taken care of it at the UN.
Speaker 2: You can sleep easy, Liz.
Speaker 3: Anthony Albanesi is in charge, and Lydia Thorpees, I said,
Speaker 3: is looking after the plastics issue. But for more comedy relief,
Speaker 3: we go to the Twitter feed of the UN Secretary
Speaker 3: General Antonio Gutres. He ignores human rights but pretends to
Speaker 3: care about them. This is his latest tweet, pretending to
Speaker 3: know what women are. It's twenty twenty four, and yet
Speaker 3: achieving gender equality remains a distant goal. We will only
Speaker 3: reduce poverty and inequality when we truly see women's rights
Speaker 3: as our common objective. He goes on to say, it
Speaker 3: will take one hundred and thirty seven years to end
Speaker 3: extreme poverty among women if we don't act now for
Speaker 3: women's rights. Remember this is from the mob who took
Speaker 3: five months to acknowledge that Jewish women had been raped
Speaker 3: by Islamists from Hamas. This is a mob whose own
Speaker 3: UN Women Organization tweet rubbish like this. Now, remember they're
Speaker 3: advocating for women's rights. But here's what youn women tweeted
Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty. Trans women are women. At the
Speaker 3: end of the day, every woman is a woman. Women
Speaker 3: are multifaceted, intergenerational, international, They are limitless. Formless is women
Speaker 3: are formals. We are formless.
Speaker 5: Anyone can be a woman.
Speaker 6: You can be a purple people leader too, are a woman.
Speaker 5: We don't have to be formalist in order for this
Speaker 5: to work.
Speaker 3: Because I haven't finished a tweet yet. It goes on
Speaker 3: to say women are the world. Oh wow, but women's
Speaker 3: rights if you say we are the women are so
Speaker 3: non specific they are actually formless.
Speaker 2: Let me go one step further.
Speaker 3: The UN website features a page on transgenderism, and they say,
Speaker 3: and I quote, the UM has affirmed the right of
Speaker 3: trans persons to legally recognize their gender identity and change
Speaker 3: their gender in official documents, including birth certificates, without being
Speaker 3: subjected to onerous and abusive requirements. Not only does the
Speaker 3: United Nations promote self identification when it comes to gender,
Speaker 3: but the website goes on to propose that children also
Speaker 3: have the right to be recognized by the gender of
Speaker 3: their choice, and it goes even further, saying that transgendered
Speaker 3: people deserve compensation in nations where their gender identit to
Speaker 3: the as chosen by themselves has not been legally recognized.
Speaker 2: But kind of.
Speaker 3: There's another problem, of course, with the UN Secretary General
Speaker 3: saying it's all about women's rights when he doesn't know
Speaker 3: what a woman is, and that is that he seems
Speaker 3: to be in bed most of the time and cozying
Speaker 3: up to some of the great abuses of women's right.
Speaker 7: I thought you were about to say he was not
Speaker 7: in bed with women, so he wouldn't know what they were.
Speaker 1: In fact, no one at the UN.
Speaker 7: Seems fashion but to quote directly from the UN's most
Speaker 7: recent report on gender equality, it says no country has
Speaker 7: all relevant laws to prohibit discrimination, prevent gender based violence,
Speaker 7: uphold equal rights in marriage and divorce, guarantee equal pay,
Speaker 7: and provide full access to sexual and reproductive health. And
Speaker 7: so the UN caring so much about this, guess who
Speaker 7: they put in charge to chair their Council on Gender
Speaker 7: Equality this year Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia. I mean, how
Speaker 7: can they sit there? How can Antonio Guterres and anyone
Speaker 7: else at the U in genuine sit there and say, oh, yes,
Speaker 7: gender equality is the biggest problem on the face of
Speaker 7: the earth right now. When Saudi Arabia, we're until about
Speaker 7: five minutes ago women couldn't even drive a car, is
Speaker 7: chairing their Gender Equality Council.
Speaker 6: For heavens, you know, little just so passionate about women's rights,
Speaker 6: but won't say a word about child rights, won't say
Speaker 6: a word about female genital mutilation taking place in several
Speaker 6: of their member countries. Won't say a word about the
Speaker 6: millions of females you don't have access to education, cannot read,
Speaker 6: have no way of working their own way out of an.
Speaker 5: Oppressive regime whatsoever.
Speaker 6: They are voiceless, they are unheard, they are unseen, this
Speaker 6: bastion of human rights. The United Nations does not come
Speaker 6: to their resc you know, they're too busy getting Saudi
Speaker 6: Arabia to make sure that they are chairing this committee
Speaker 6: on women's rights. It's utterly laughable. How does anyone pay
Speaker 6: a tension to this one.
Speaker 5: World government in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon?
Speaker 3: They put Saudi Arabia in charge of women's rights in
Speaker 3: the same way that a school teacher trying to straighten
Speaker 3: out that naughty kid.
Speaker 2: Puts him in charge of you know, oh.
Speaker 3: Organizing, hoping that being in charge will straighten him out
Speaker 3: and get him to see the right way.
Speaker 7: Well, well, I heard that they're about to launch a
Speaker 7: Council on Cruelty against chickens and they're going to put
Speaker 7: the COOKFC in charter as well.
Speaker 1: That'll go.
Speaker 5: That would be very, very offending for them.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 7: Now, look, a friend of mine, who has been a
Speaker 7: lifelong Catholic, in fact, he served as the treasurer of
Speaker 7: his local Catholic church for the better part of two decades,
Speaker 7: told me some time ago that he would never darken
Speaker 7: the door of the Catholic Church again for so long
Speaker 7: as Pope Francis was in charge. And look, I kind
Speaker 7: of sympathize with him. I'm not a Catholic myself, but
Speaker 7: by God, you can tell the bloke is an absolute lifty.
Speaker 7: He seems to spend more time denigrating the Catholic Church
Speaker 7: and its sensibilities than upholding them.
Speaker 1: He's now come out with another.
Speaker 7: Great of Catholic wisdom, which is that it doesn't matter
Speaker 7: what religion you belong to, where we're all ultimately moving
Speaker 7: towards the same God.
Speaker 9: Because every religion is a way to arrive at God.
Speaker 8: So no.
Speaker 9: So no comediver I sort of a comparison, an example
Speaker 9: would be there sort of like different languages in order.
Speaker 1: To arrive at God mado.
Speaker 9: But God is God for all, a comedio id partutiamo
Speaker 9: tuti phili di dio.
Speaker 7: And if God is God for all, then we're all
Speaker 7: sons and daughters of God. It's all the same. There's
Speaker 7: just a bunch of different religions for world.
Speaker 1: Does mean we might be leaving.
Speaker 7: Completely disparate stuff, but we're all sort of moving in
Speaker 7: the same direction.
Speaker 1: Now. Now it helped me out here. You are a
Speaker 1: former minister, you are the daughter of a minister.
Speaker 7: As someone who hasn't spent a lot of time in
Speaker 7: the church, I thought I had a minor understanding of
Speaker 7: how these things work, which was you believe in your
Speaker 7: particular religion because you think it's the one true religion
Speaker 7: and your God is the one true God, and you
Speaker 7: believe in that one because all the other ones are wrong.
Speaker 1: So the Pope is now saying it doesn't matter. You
Speaker 1: didn't have to be Catholic, doesn't matter what you are.
Speaker 1: We all believe in the same thing. I didn't think
Speaker 1: they all believed in the same way.
Speaker 5: Well, congratulations, Caleb. Turns out you know more than the pope.
Speaker 1: Make me the pope. Make me the pope.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one point three billion Catholics, it is time to
Speaker 6: fire your pope for crying out loud. That's heresy by
Speaker 6: anyone's definition.
Speaker 5: That is blasphemy.
Speaker 6: In fact, the entire eleven years of this guy's papers,
Speaker 6: he's never stopped advocating for climate change. That's been a
Speaker 6: major bastion of his time in the hot seat. Last December,
Speaker 6: he decided it was perfectly okay for priests to bless
Speaker 6: sane sex marriage. Have you read the scriptures, buddy, It
Speaker 6: repeatedly says that is an abomination. And with regards to
Speaker 6: this idea that, oh, we're all gonna make it, it
Speaker 6: actually doesn't matter which religion you belong to. John fourteen six,
Speaker 6: Baby Jesus said, I am the Way, the Truth, and
Speaker 6: the life. Nobody makes it to the Father except through me.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: That sounds pretty exclusive. That sounds like there really is
Speaker 5: only one way.
Speaker 6: So Catholics, either you need to fire your pope or
Speaker 6: really reconsider this idea.
Speaker 5: Of Ex Cathedra.
Speaker 6: This people infallibility, because according to you guys, everything that
Speaker 6: comes out of this bloke's mouth is absolutely infallible. If
Speaker 6: I had a dollar for every Catholic who's come up
Speaker 6: to me and said to me, a lifelong Protestant, why
Speaker 6: don't you convert to Catholicism, to which I reply, why
Speaker 6: do you allow a heretic to be the head of
Speaker 6: your universal church? Maybe, just maybe I consider it if
Speaker 6: you just got rid of the guy who's currently chairman,
Speaker 6: because from woe.
Speaker 5: To Go, I mean, this guy has always been a joker.
Speaker 5: In my eyes. I've always said, bring back Pope Bennie.
Speaker 6: Then of course Pope Bennie died, so I couldn't crack
Speaker 6: that joke anymore.
Speaker 5: But this guy has made a mockeryly first, as far
Speaker 5: as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: You know, when someone asks you a really obvious question
Speaker 3: and you replied, is the Pope Catholic? It's rhetorical, but
Speaker 3: now it's a legitimate question. We don't know if he's
Speaker 3: Catholic or not. In the clip we show he goes
Speaker 3: on he says things like this. He says, it's wrong
Speaker 3: to say that my religion is more important than yours.
Speaker 3: It's wrong to say my religion is true and yours
Speaker 3: is not. He went on and he said, than I
Speaker 3: quote each religion and then he names them seek, Muslim, Hindu, Christian.
Speaker 2: They're all different paths but.
Speaker 3: Arrive at the same place, which begs the question, if
Speaker 3: that's true, why would anyone become a Catholic. You don't
Speaker 3: need to become a Catholic. It also begs the question
Speaker 3: of Christians, why did Jesus bother to dire bloody, painful
Speaker 3: death on a cross if you get to heaven some other.
Speaker 2: Clearly. But here's the thing that the.
Speaker 3: Pope is trying to be inclusive, right because anyone who
Speaker 3: claims they are the possessor of objective truth, that's divisive.
Speaker 3: So he's trying to be inclusive. But in trying to
Speaker 3: be inclusive, he makes an objective truth claim. He says,
Speaker 3: they're all the same paths to the same God. So
Speaker 3: he is claiming to have objective truth, but no one
Speaker 3: else is allowed to. In twenty nineteen, he co signed
Speaker 3: a document with a Muslim leader in Dubai saying, and
Speaker 3: I quote, the diversity of religions are will by God
Speaker 3: in his wisdom.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you wonder, and Liz, you're a great I wouldn't
Speaker 2: call you a conspiracy theorist. I would just say you're
Speaker 2: ahead of the curve.
Speaker 5: But as a conspiracy theorists are.
Speaker 2: The United Nations, the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 3: They're all very keen to try and get all religions
Speaker 3: to come together and just together support all these great initiatives.
Speaker 2: And I reckon the Pope would be a great leader
Speaker 2: for that, you.
Speaker 7: Know, he says, you know, they're just on different paths.
Speaker 7: But the only problem is, I mean, it's like you're
Speaker 7: starting in Adelaide. One of the paths goes to Perth,
Speaker 7: one of the paths goes to.
Speaker 1: Wilson Promontory, and the other one goes to Cape York.
Speaker 1: For Heaven's sake, exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, just before we go to a break, let's talk
Speaker 3: for a second about the fallout from this second attempted
Speaker 3: assassination of President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: No sooner had that second assassination attempt.
Speaker 3: Being tried and thankfully foiled by alert Secret Service agents.
Speaker 3: The Trump campaign and put out a screenshot of comments
Speaker 3: made by Democrats that clearly have been inciting violence against
Speaker 3: the former premier. We've got a former Premier, the former president.
Speaker 3: We've got numbers of them here and you can see.
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris said, we've got to recognize Trump is a threat.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden has said it's time to put Trump in
Speaker 3: a bullseye. Biden also said mega Republicans are a threat
Speaker 3: to the very soul of this country.
Speaker 2: On and on it goes.
Speaker 3: Pages and pages of receipts from Democrats who clearly have
Speaker 3: been ramping up this retoric. And is it any surprise
Speaker 3: that people have taken them at There were thought, if
Speaker 3: Trump's a threat to the democracy, if he's a threat
Speaker 3: to the world, we better do something about it. But
Speaker 3: no one's learned their lesson. Have a look at Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 3: This is after the second attempt on Trump's life. She
Speaker 3: went on TV and she said.
Speaker 10: This, you know, journalists, should you really try to achieve objectivity?
Speaker 10: And by that he said, I mean they should cover
Speaker 10: the object. Well, the object in this case is Donald
Speaker 10: Trump has donemagogery, his danger to our country and the world,
Speaker 10: and stick with it. You know, they were merciless about
Speaker 10: what they saw as President Biden's problems in the debate.
Speaker 2: These people have no shame.
Speaker 3: Within hours of a second attempt on Trump's life, Clinton
Speaker 3: goes on television calling him a demagogue and dangerous.
Speaker 2: It's almost like she's trying to goad a third assassination attempt.
Speaker 7: Well, of course they've been goading it for this long.
Speaker 7: Why would they give up the game now?
Speaker 1: For heaven's sake?
Speaker 7: And it's Bolt Andrew Bolt pointed out earlier this evening
Speaker 7: that every attempt on a president's life in his lifetime
Speaker 7: has been committed by someone of the left.
Speaker 1: And the left always goes.
Speaker 7: On about, oh, you know, it's this the danger of
Speaker 7: the right, danger of Donald Trump. Well, we pull out
Speaker 7: the receipt. It ain't the danger of the right that's
Speaker 7: causing this. It is the danger of the left. They
Speaker 7: refuse to admit it because they would actually prefer to
Speaker 7: see Donald Trump dead than in the White House again,
Speaker 7: and they will do anything possible to encourage that and
Speaker 7: then wipe their hands of it after.
Speaker 2: Just before we go to the break, got to show
Speaker 2: this headline from the Atlantic. Listen to this.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is using another possible attempt on his life
Speaker 3: to inflame tensions in America.
Speaker 2: So when even they take a.
Speaker 3: Shot at Trump, Trump is the bad guy for being
Speaker 3: shot at absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go to a break. When we come back,
Speaker 2: we'll look at.
Speaker 3: What's making news in the papers tomorrow, including could there
Speaker 3: be four rate cuts next year?
Speaker 2: It's coming up in a moment. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers.
Speaker 3: And you know the cost of living crisis is really
Speaker 3: starting to bite when you get headlines like this in
Speaker 3: the Gold Coast bulletin. It's a latte, but time's been
Speaker 3: hard talking about the pun that's the cost of living
Speaker 3: and giveaway here. But the next line, cafe operators are
Speaker 3: pleading for government intervention, warning the price of an average
Speaker 3: coffee will soon hit seven dollars to keep pace with
Speaker 3: rising business costs. Now, I know when you go to
Speaker 3: the Gold Coast on holidays you pay a premium for everything,
Speaker 3: but seven dollars for a coffee. I get my coffee
Speaker 3: for four dollars fifty at Castle Towels, and it's a
Speaker 3: great coffee too. But there's no way in hell I
Speaker 3: would pay seven bucks for a coffee. I would be
Speaker 3: getting an s cafe, instant coffee and making it home myself.
Speaker 2: Seven dollars.
Speaker 5: Ford went to National roast all the way.
Speaker 6: No, But seriously reading this, I was just surprised that
Speaker 6: they haven't hit seven dollars yet here in Sydney. I'm
Speaker 6: sorry to say that is not unusual in Castle Hill.
Speaker 6: Out in Castle Hill, like God's maybe.
Speaker 5: It's even worth making the trip to for coffee that cheap.
Speaker 5: But this ship has flown. This ship is a spec
Speaker 5: in the distance.
Speaker 2: How much are you paying for coffee?
Speaker 5: Were you're in the innocent. I get a long black
Speaker 5: and it's six dollars fifty.
Speaker 6: So there's no milk involved, There's no frothing involved, not
Speaker 6: even the extra time involved, all the extra products of dairy.
Speaker 5: It's just a long black.
Speaker 7: How can you say there's no frothing. I'd be bloody
Speaker 7: frothing as far as blaying six.
Speaker 1: Dollars fifty for a long black, manven sake, I mean.
Speaker 1: I wrote a.
Speaker 7: Column for news dot com are you back in April
Speaker 7: in which I said that if a coffee costs more
Speaker 7: than five dollars in this country, we are no longer
Speaker 7: a serious country. A few months later, we're talking about
Speaker 7: seven dollars now right. But the bit I can't get
Speaker 7: my head around is the cafe operators it says you're
Speaker 7: repleating for government intervention. So what are we now the
Speaker 7: federal government of the state government's got to intervene and
Speaker 7: subsidize Cafe zone about.
Speaker 2: Power costs and probably fuel subsidies and all those others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we could all we could all do with
Speaker 1: a bit of that.
Speaker 7: But it is how ridiculous when something like a coffee,
Speaker 7: as simple as a coffee could cost you seven dollars.
Speaker 7: You know, it used to be able to get a
Speaker 7: pine on happy hour for about five bucks.
Speaker 1: You walk into a pub. Now you cannot find a
Speaker 1: pint of.
Speaker 7: Beer for less than ten dollars in most parts of
Speaker 7: the country. It is absolutely outrageous. And that's they put
Speaker 7: tax on beer. There's no tax on coffee, and it's
Speaker 7: still going up.
Speaker 6: This one wonders how much of this is crocodile tears,
Speaker 6: because if you cannot make a coffee for less than
Speaker 6: seven dollars, what the heck are you doing?
Speaker 5: We all know you've got to.
Speaker 6: Pay your staff, but we know wages haven't gone up. Sure,
Speaker 6: there's interest rate rises, there's inflation, but wages haven't.
Speaker 5: Gone up with that. So you've got to pay your staff,
Speaker 5: but you're paying them the same.
Speaker 6: You mean to tell me a coffee bean and milk
Speaker 6: has gone up so significantly that you're charging.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not it.
Speaker 3: It's barristas have joined the CFMU and they're being paid fortunate.
Speaker 5: I mean your cost staff costs. It can't be. It's no,
Speaker 5: wages have gone up, so you.
Speaker 6: Are paying for the coffee machine which you would have
Speaker 6: bought ages ago.
Speaker 5: You're essentially selling the product.
Speaker 6: Which is one cardboard cup coated with pfas You're welcome,
Speaker 6: and the coffee.
Speaker 5: Bean with a bit of hot water and some milk.
Speaker 5: If someone hasn't ordered.
Speaker 7: Along black well, i'll give you, I'll give you a
Speaker 7: hot tip. You shouldn't be having takeaway coffee. It should
Speaker 7: always be had in a porcelain cup, sitting down with
Speaker 7: a newspaper as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if a cafe doesn't.
Speaker 7: Have the day's papers there, I will walk out. I
Speaker 7: think that's the marker of a good cafe. But it's
Speaker 7: the operating costs that have gone up. It's the overheads
Speaker 7: in terms of power and whatever, as you mentioned before,
Speaker 7: but also interest rates have hit them significantly as well.
Speaker 7: Because if you've taken out a business loan to start
Speaker 7: a cafe. Those costs have gone up. Thanks Albow, you've
Speaker 7: sent the cost of coffee through the roof. But there
Speaker 7: could be some relief on the way because on the
Speaker 7: front of the courier mail tomorrow it says hope for
Speaker 7: borrowers four rate cups.
Speaker 1: In twenty five.
Speaker 7: I can hear the cheers from the lodge sitting here
Speaker 7: in Macquarie Park in Sydney.
Speaker 1: Mortgage holders could receive four.
Speaker 7: Interest rate cuts next year, reigniting another property boom, experts claim.
Speaker 7: The A six is RBA target rate tracker yesterday revealed
Speaker 7: Australian financial markets have begun pricing in four twenty five
Speaker 7: basis point interest rate cuts starting in February. And that
Speaker 7: is exactly what the Prime Minister wants before he goes
Speaker 7: to a federal election. He is hoping and praying and
Speaker 7: wishing and crossing every single appendage. He hasn't tonight that
Speaker 7: this actually happens. But by the way, it won't be
Speaker 7: any thanks to him. It's only because the RBA has
Speaker 7: pulled their levers so hard thirty not interest rate rises.
Speaker 7: Since this Prime Minister has come to power in order
Speaker 7: to make this happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the headline reads, hope for Borrow is a hope
Speaker 3: for Albanez now too, right, the more pertinent headline. Who
Speaker 3: knows whether this will happen or not, But a lot
Speaker 3: of people will be hanging on for dear life believing
Speaker 3: it will because a lot of people are doing it
Speaker 3: really tough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like false hope, and it smells like
Speaker 5: false hope.
Speaker 6: Let's just pretend they've said nothing until it actually happens.
Speaker 1: Seven dollar coffee tonight.
Speaker 6: Australian now UCUST originals to embrace threesome.
Speaker 5: That's the pillar talk.
Speaker 6: Australia, the US and Britain will open the Yeah, I know,
Speaker 6: where is this with the innuendo?
Speaker 2: We read that earlier and I only just got it.
Speaker 2: But it's the way you read it out made it
Speaker 2: clear to me, so I.
Speaker 7: No, no. As soon as I saw that, I thought,
Speaker 7: this is going to sell papers tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The people go are going to have threesomes in Aucust.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this this union's really really taking off.
Speaker 6: Australia, the US and Britain will open the door to
Speaker 6: ORCUST cooperation with South Korea, New Zealand and Canada in
Speaker 6: a potential expansion of the pack so called Pillar two
Speaker 6: technology sharing partnership. You wonder if they're trying to do
Speaker 6: kind of punch for punch with Bricks, because Bricks recently
Speaker 6: invited like five more countries and they're obviously with Russia
Speaker 6: and China they're seen as the other orcus I mean,
Speaker 6: not specifically, but certainly that's how I see them.
Speaker 5: So they're looking to expand. South Africa recently signed on
Speaker 5: with them.
Speaker 6: Are we doing the same here, being like, actually, just
Speaker 6: a handful of us may not be enough in the future.
Speaker 5: Let's get some new recruits if you want to join.
Speaker 5: The doors are open.
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear what's happening.
Speaker 3: Everybody's sort of getting around their friends, and everyone's picking
Speaker 3: their side because everyone knows what's coming.
Speaker 2: That's what it seems like.
Speaker 3: These are not easy times where everyone's relaxing and thinking
Speaker 3: we've got clear skies ahead. There's dark clouds on the horizon,
Speaker 3: and so people are choosing their friends and buddying up.
Speaker 2: And I think we're very wise.
Speaker 1: To fair enopple.
Speaker 7: Let's not forget though that we read on the front
Speaker 7: of the OZ last night the US is urging Australia
Speaker 7: not to vote for Israel having to pull entirely out
Speaker 7: of Gaza. We'll talking about it Ucus, but to the
Speaker 7: Orcust partners aren't exactly on the same page when it
Speaker 7: comes to military matters.
Speaker 3: And if you can to involve New Zealand in UCUS,
Speaker 3: you'd like to know that they're committed to Orcus rather
Speaker 3: than coosing up to China as the former Labor government.
Speaker 1: That's true though.
Speaker 7: You earlier, when we were reading the papers before the show,
Speaker 7: thought it said North Korea, and I thought, hell, if
Speaker 7: we can get North Korea on board, this thing is
Speaker 7: a real goat.
Speaker 1: We're looking with gas of.
Speaker 2: A man of faith.
Speaker 3: I thought my prayers might have been answered with a
Speaker 3: las No, we're going to go to a break.
Speaker 2: Can we come back.
Speaker 3: You won't believe a mayoral debate in Brazil that ends
Speaker 3: in violence with one candidate being slapped over the head
Speaker 3: with a chair.
Speaker 2: We'll show you that outrage in mister money.
Speaker 3: Well, we've just had local government elections here in New
Speaker 3: South Wales and there are a few dirty tactics, but Liz,
Speaker 3: none as bad as what they had in Brazil.
Speaker 6: We love to pay out on our councils here, but
Speaker 6: it turns out, they're actually rather boring compared to these guys.
Speaker 6: This was the mayoral candidate debate, so Brazilians are watching
Speaker 6: this at home on their TV when one of them
Speaker 6: suddenly got extremely physical.
Speaker 1: Pa look.
Speaker 6: Detainer, the guy who'd brandished a chair and tried to
Speaker 6: brain his opponent, said that he'd gotten violent because his
Speaker 6: opponent had brought up sexual allegations of harassment which were
Speaker 6: years old and had been disproved and dismissed.
Speaker 5: So he was very upset that.
Speaker 6: His opponent had brought them back up. Meanwhile, his opponent.
Speaker 5: Did have to be treated in hospital for his injuries.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Detainer was then expelled from the debate, but he said
Speaker 6: he wasn't sorry and would not be apologizing.
Speaker 3: I reckon for the next US presidential debate, which presidential
Speaker 3: candidate should be provided with a chair?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, look, I'd almost be willing to say
Speaker 7: that we shouldn't abolish councils in Australia if we got
Speaker 7: that level of entertainment from them. And of course, you
Speaker 7: know he's running for me, so he wants to chair
Speaker 7: the council. But one thing we can say is that
Speaker 7: he did not take that sitting down, did he. Now
Speaker 7: let's go down to my home state.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Adelaide.
Speaker 7: Now you might recall about a month ago at the Showdown,
Speaker 7: which is where the Adelaide Crows playoff against Port Adelaide,
Speaker 7: there was a bit of violence that Port Adelaide mascot
Speaker 7: got punched up and Matt Crouch, one of the Crows players,
Speaker 7: knocked off the hat of a person in the crowd
Speaker 7: who'd been getting lippy.
Speaker 1: With him after the game.
Speaker 7: The police investigated that for an entire month and only
Speaker 7: came back today and said that no charges would be pressed.
Speaker 1: What a great use of police resources.
Speaker 7: Investigating someone having their hat knocked off.
Speaker 1: But we speak of police resources.
Speaker 7: Ken Ingley, the coach of Port Adelaide, has been fined
Speaker 7: twenty thousand dollars for also mouthing off at Hawthorne player
Speaker 7: Jack Ginovan after the finals game on the weekend twenty
Speaker 7: grand will Eddie Maguire says, my recommendation for Ken next time,
Speaker 7: don't stand thirty meters away in the middle of the football.
Speaker 1: Ground and do it. Don't do that.
Speaker 7: Come to Melbourne, go to Jack Ginovan's house, invade it
Speaker 7: with a machete.
Speaker 1: Do that because you won't get fined at all for that.
Speaker 7: Or maybe bring the whole of Port Adelaide over and
Speaker 7: course thirty million dollars worth of a tax on police
Speaker 7: for no reason and no one cares.
Speaker 1: I think he's onto something.
Speaker 5: That yeh, fire that twenty grand.
Speaker 2: We gotta go.
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