WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 9 October 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:07.440 Lately. General, welcome the Late Debate. Thanks for joining us 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.000 on the Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.760 and Caleb Bond. Coming up expensive artwork at a Dutch 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.240 museum thrown into the bin by staff who mistook it 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.520 for trash, which pretty much sums up modern art. Will 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.560 show you that particular piece of art a little later. Plus, 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.880 when we look at the papers, the Victorian Coalition leading 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.120 labor for the first time in seven years, but will 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.760 John Pursuito be around to enjoy the benefits of that polling? 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.200 And the nation's peak Judicial body says that judges should 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.720 be trained in understanding the effects of colonialism before sitting 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:47.000 on trials involving indigenous defendants. Will get to all of 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.600 that a little later. You know. One of the main 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:54.520 criticisms of the ABC is that they never ever apologize, 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.560 but that's not always the case. This morning, for instance, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.800 ABC radio host Patricia Cavellius made an apology or is 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:08.440 she called it a real apology to herso sensitive listeners. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.480 Let me play the part of the interview on Radio 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.080 National this morning and see if you can pick the 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.839 offense for which she later gave a groveling apology. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.039 What I feel is that sometimes some of our states, 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.880 I mean partially European state, it's western states, so a 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.199 little bit scizophrenic about that, and. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.920 That schizophrenic approach that you've described it as. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.119 This confused, more confused approach. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.360 So did you pick up there that they used the 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.720 word schizophrenic. She and her guest used the word schizophrenic 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.680 to refer to European policy. Well, the ABC switchboard lit up, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:50.600 and Patricia Cavellos, rather than encouraging her audience to maybe 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.080 grow up and understand a little thing called context, gave 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.760 this me a culper And can I. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.480 Just make an apology, a real apology? 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.520 Actually, my last couple of guests ago, actually it wasn't 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:09.399 quite the last guest use the word schizophrenic in describing policy, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.120 which he used and I thought he was a very 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:13.720 interesting man. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.640 But yeah, I can understand why people. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.200 Offended by it, and then I repeated it, and I 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.080 can only apologize to myself, of course, and I do 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.440 apologize for that. It is a few of you have 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.240 made the point about timing with the Prime Minister apologizing 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.840 about the Turet's comment. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.520 I think you're right about the timing. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.680 It just shows how well, in my case, you can 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.160 not think before you speak sometimes. And I heard the word, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.120 and I repeated it, and I apologize. I don't think 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.160 that we need to be using mental health or any 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.840 of these issues to describe in a derogatory way, which 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.040 was not certainly my intention. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.079 But I apologize and thank you for your texts. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.680 Seriously, Caleb and Lives, that conversation had nothing to do 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.320 with the mentally ill. Even blind Freddy can understand and 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.240 see that and buy that reference on me in no 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.280 disrespect to visually impaired people or viewers named fred Frederick 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:03.800 or Fredick. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.280 Both of you are wearing glasses tonight, so. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:11.080 I know, and don't be crazy, James. I suppose I 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.640 can't even say that anymore either. I'm seriously, there are 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.480 some people in this country who need to take a 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.080 spoonful of cement and harden the f up. Honestly, if 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:27.280 you cannot use schizophrenic, and we all understand what schizophrenia 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.760 the condition is, it's where you're all over the shop, right, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.160 So why can't I just then use schizophrenic to refer 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.640 to something, be it policy or a person or whatever 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.920 it is being all over the shop. It's not like 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.480 I'm saying I hate schizophrenic people. It's just using a 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.640 word that applies to a condition that also then applies 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.480 to what generally happens when you have that condition. I 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.280 don't see the issue this, But I don't see the issue. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:56.520 This is exactly how political correctness has taken over though. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:02.280 Those apologies, those apologies, you playing to the lowest common denominator. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:07.560 How many Karens texted in and said, I'm offended. Who cares? 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.840 What's going to happen nothing, You're offended, That's it. How 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.960 did we go from teaching kids sticks and stones may 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.560 break my bones, but names will never hurt me. I eat, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:25.200 words will never hurt me to having grown ass adults 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:30.760 in the Western world who genuinely think because I am offended, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.000 I now have a right to make us song and dance. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.240 I want to live in a democracy, but I don't 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.280 want people to have freedom of speech. I want them 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.960 to be constantly self censoring. I want to live in 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.080 a democracy, but never be offended ever again in my 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.120 entire life. And if I am offended, then someone is 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.480 in the wrong and something must be done about that. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:55.120 An apology must be received. It's utter nonsense. This is 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.520 how we lose. And this is exactly what we saw 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:04.479 regarding yesterday's comment from the Prime Minister using Angus Taylor 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.120 of mate, do you have Tourett's here? It is if 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:08.200 you've forgotten. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.359 This nonsense that they carry on with the idea that 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.559 where have you got tourets or something? 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.400 You know, you know, you see the babel babel bab order. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.080 Are we drawing, mister Spagher? 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:30.040 I we drawn, We drawn, We join and apologize. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.479 He'd already withdrawn it and apologize, and let's all know, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.120 there was a lot more laughter than there was people 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.440 realizing maybe he shouldn't have said that. Who was offended 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.360 by it? Who on earth was offended by it? Well, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.039 someone must have said, mister Prime Minister, you better make 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.040 this right. Because even though he'd already moved on, he'd 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.600 already done a quick apology. He then took to the 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:01.360 floor yesterday to issue this apology. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.800 Made comments that were unkind and hurtful. I knew it 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.960 was wrong as soon as I made the comment. I 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.840 apologized and I would do as soon as I said it. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.080 But it shouldn't have happened. And I also want to 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:19.919 apologize to all Australians who suffer from this disability, or. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:25.599 How about stop choosing to be offended adults. He clearly 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:30.200 meant nothing untoward by it. The more we play along 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.880 with this, the more prevalent it becomes in every workplace, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:38.120 in every media organization, and everyone looks on and goes 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:43.200 quick better copy that, and starts apologizing for every single 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.159 little thing that any Karen out there could find offensive, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.800 because you know, in today's society, people can find anything 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.960 offensive and it's so subjective. It's according to your upbringing, 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:59.360 your religious beliefs, your cultural background. Would I find offensive, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.320 you may not, and vice versa. But the difference between 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:06.520 you and me is I just laugh. I don't find 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.480 it offensive. I'm actually incredibly hard to offend, and I 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.360 encourage everyone to do the same. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:18.120 Well, I mean the ABC apology from Patricia Cavellis explains 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.480 why the ratings are falling so sharply. They've dropped ten 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.800 and a half percent in the ratings in the past 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.480 twelve months, and she's actually being moved on from Radio National. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.000 Who would want to tune into a radio program where 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.240 a perfectly innocent interview with a guest from overseas. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.920 Yeah, English clearly wasn't even his first language, where. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.920 Everyone knew he meant confusion, not a group of mentally 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.400 ill people elicits an apology of such earnestness. As for 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.200 Anthony Albanezi though, and I agree with you, I personally 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.000 thought I knew what he meant. It was a joke. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.280 Move on. But you criticized him for coming back and 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.760 making the earnest apology. If he's going to apologize, the 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.360 first one did not count because politicians do this kind 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.920 of don't they. They they go smash and then they say, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.080 I withdraw, I apologize. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.240 Well, it's the greatest trick in the book because. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:10.040 The right shouldn't have apologized at all. And if anyone 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.760 wanted to take offense to the fact that he hadn't apologized, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.120 she did in the first instance, making a song and 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.440 dance about it, making it like this, you know, ceremony 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.760 of self flagelence, like I'm so sorry. Heck, if I 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.280 was Angus Taylor, I would have just shot back mighty 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.760 tough words coming from a PM with a speech impediment. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.920 He play them at their own game. Instead of people 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.040 then coming out being like. 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.160 This was so hurt it's a it's a ticks box, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.920 ticks boxing. You can make fun of me now having 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:53.160 a speech. It's a tick boxing, tick boxing, exercise box, 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.120 ticking boxy, tick boxing. Let me help you. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.280 Elbanies is from the left right, so they've made a 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.640 rod for their own back because everyone those the lefties 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.040 are all over this. So when langling and she's part 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.120 of what is something, they've got to apologize to their 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:07.520 own bait. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.160 That's part of what annoyed me about the reaction to 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.880 Albo yesterday as well, was that there was a lot 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.880 of criticism for the right from the right. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.920 For himsel yes, the right should have said it, come up. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.439 We all say, exactly, come out, and we go okay, 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.600 probably shouldn't have said it. We're all human for him 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.160 and say can we just move on and not ourselves 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.360 up in knots about this stuff? Speaking of telling ourselves 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.920 up in knots about language. And I know our great 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.160 mate Kel Richards, who sometimes sits in my seat here 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.240 on this program, will be watching with great interest tonight. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.240 So's the story popped up in a few of the 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.640 online news outlets today that stemmed from a social media 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.800 post on Readit where someone was saying that their daughter, 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.560 who is a retail worker, got in trouble at work 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.560 from a customer because they called them mate. Let me 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.640 read this to you. This is from the post it. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.760 So she's dealt with the good and the bad and 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.000 the ugly customers as you would expect in retail, but 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.880 she came home completely puzzled and confused by one customer. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.360 The customer told her can I tell you something, followed 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:10.080 by please don't call me mate. She apologized with I'm 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.920 so sorry if I've offended you, but the customer then 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.640 told her it's unprofessional to use that word in the workplace. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.920 She's pretty sure. The customer was also Australian, which added 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.320 to her being more confused. When did the word mate 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:29.400 become unprofessional? I mean, look, the word mate has saved 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.760 me on so many occasions because I don't know what 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.480 you two are like. But a name goes in one 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.280 ear and out the other. Unless I repeat your name 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.080 back to you multiple times, I will not remember your 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.080 name by the end of a conversation. If I've just 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.439 met you. So you get to the end of the conversation, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.360 you've completely forgotten who this person is in front of 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.680 nice to meet you mate, or you're running to someone 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.120 in the supermarket. You haven't seen them for five years, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.560 you know them like you've met them before, you can't 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.000 really remember, mate. How are you right? It's the get 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.440 out word for every situation, apart from maybe women. It's 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.000 a bit difficult to call a woman mate. No, you 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.680 can't call him darl anymore. That sexist store. You can't love, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.480 go and love or hey you going sweetheart? Honey buns 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:15.240 or whatever it might be. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.360 Right, Okay, but don't give in to the PC. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.840 It's apparently a sexist patron. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.840 Call them dahl. Most of us love it. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:27.000 I appreciate your input, darling, But what I will say like, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.120 what is wrong with mate? What is wrong with calling 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:33.360 someone mate? Because if you're in Australia, Australia, everyone is mate. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.480 Get over yourself. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.959 I think this might be a generational thing because when 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.880 I go through the McDonald's drive through, which is very 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.920 rare but basically every night after the program, it always 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.680 sounds weird when you've got some fourteen year old kid 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.240 who says, how can I take your auto? 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:49.520 Mate? 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.120 And I'm like, I'm not your mate, I'm the customer. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.920 Do you want to you may call me. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:55.480 You may call me sir. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.800 If I was a woman, you may mate your mate. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:05.000 Going to McDonald's to be called sir. You want that 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.560 five stuff, Butler mat. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.320 If my nineteen year old kids referred to an adult 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.040 as our thanks mate, I would probably say to them, hey, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.200 you don't call a man in his forties or his 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.320 fifties who is a stranger to you, mate, call him 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.319 something Australian. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:21.439 We've also going to make. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.280 A big deal about I'm just saying I can understand. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:28.680 I can't leave mate. I mean, we are unpolished and unprofessional. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.880 I would like to disappoint. It was as a culture, 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.079 and I despair when we mose that. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.800 So let's not think this person being like, oh. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:42.199 That's so unprofessional. I'm like, we're unpolished, We're Ozzie. This 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.840 is what we're renowned for the world over. Don't take 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.880 away our spark, thanks very much, and if you don't 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.680 like it, leave mate to the US now. And that 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:57.640 infamous interview over the Weekend by sixty minutes Bill Whittaker 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:02.760 that saw Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz have rings runner 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.200 around them. Bill Whittaker was taking no prisoners he actually 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.480 asked difficult questions, and when those two buffoons just tried 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.360 to serve up their usual word salads, Bill Whittaker would 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.839 just come back with exactly the same question. So they 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.880 didn't get to get away with much. But we find 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.800 out today that CBS, knowing what a burning dumpster fire 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.400 this interview was for the Democratic campaign, has taken it 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:37.679 into their own hands to edit the footage before re 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:42.520 airing it. This is some serious nineteen eighty four rubbish 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.720 going on right under our noses. Check out this footage, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.880 Spot the difference and ask yourself why was it this 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.760 one question that they chose to edit. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.920 But it seems that Prime Minister in Netnya who is 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:59.040 not listening. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:05.240 Well, the work that we have done has resulted in 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:10.720 a number of movements in that region by Israel that 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:17.440 were very much prompted by or a result of many things, 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.960 including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.080 But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.000 We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.280 the United States to be clear about where we stand 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.120 on the need for this war to end. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:40.480 Two completely different answers to the exact same question for 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.480 Shamee CBS, and let it be known, you can't get 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.520 away with this kind of thing anymore. Thanks to Elon 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.880 Musk platform X. Commentators around the world pick up on 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.960 this and share clips like that, so everyone knows you've 0:14:55.960 --> 0:15:01.880 adopted it, everyone knows you're lying. This is just incredible. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.360 More of this, please, Because we talk about the age 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.680 of AI and how hard it's become trying to tell 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.520 fact from fiction. In that regard, we already know that 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.600 the mainstream media also does their darandas to manipulate the 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.520 public psyche in whichever direction they've decided they want to 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.840 go ie pro Democrats at any cost in this election. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.800 And yet here we have one of the main media 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:35.400 outlets in America openly editing two completely different answers to 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:36.440 the exact same question. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:41.360 Media bias is one thing, but to edit an interview 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:46.360 replacing an answer to a question in a completely different spot, 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.920 right in front of everybody's eyes in real time, I mean, 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.080 that's like next level. And remember it's the Democrats who 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.280 always accrues Trump of being the threat to democracy. Well, 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.520 there is this not an incredible threat to democracy? Because 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.240 a keeper of knowing who Kamala Harris is if you 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.600 want to vote for her, is the way she communicates. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.720 She's a terrible communicator, and sixty minutes are trying to 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.840 hide that from the American public. And of course Donald 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.760 Trump is often talked about in terms of your election 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.680 interference or Russia accused of that? Is that not election 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.720 interference where they're clearly trial it turned out to. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.360 Be complete hoax cooked up by the Clinton the Russian galusion. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.840 Hope, well, exactly, But I mean, sixty minutes here are 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.760 interfering in the election by trying to hide initudes of 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:32.720 the main candidate. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.600 I don't know what you two are complaining about. I'm 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.640 hoping we can do the same with my box ticking 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.840 incident earlier in the program, before that goes up online, 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.000 we'll just scrub that from existence. But I mean, if 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.840 I were a reporter in that situation, I'd believed if 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.480 that was done with my interview, because it'd be like 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:54.040 remember when John Houston was opposition leader and he was 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.040 running for PM and he got done over by Mike 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.760 Willersey who asked him about GST and whether GST would 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.600 apply to a birthday A you jumbled it all up. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.080 You couldn't aswer the question. Imagine, if you're Mike Willison, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.480 You've got that absolute zinger that cost huson the election, 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.400 and then when your producers put it up online, they 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.960 just edited it out. The best bit of the interview, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.800 the bit where you got it, I would be absolutely lived. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.199 So it turns out that not only can she just 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:24.040 completely change her answers, because she's continually being asked, like, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.159 you're changing your mind on everything, Oh, cracking, Now you 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.480 used to think it should be banned, and now it 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.040 shouldn't be, and so many things. She's apparently changed her mother. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.320 She can actually change her answers. Now. This woman is 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.399 super human, And of course she is continually being asked 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:45.480 about why she keeps changing her mind. In that same interview, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.840 she was asked, why are you changing your mind on 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:53.040 so many policies that you apparently were so convicted about. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.639 You have changed your position on so many things. You 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.800 were against fracking, now you're for it. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.760 In the last four years, I have been Vice president 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.600 of the United States, and I have been traveling our country, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.800 and I have been listening to folks and seeking what 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.359 is possible in terms of common ground. I believe in 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:14.440 building consensus. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:19.520 We are diverse people geographically regionally in terms of where 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.439 we are in our backgrounds, and what the American people 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.000 do want is that we have leaders who can build consensus. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:28.680 Ahh. 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.520 So she went out there and discovered that a lot 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.600 of people don't agree with her radical policy, so well, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.320 I'd better just change them, because what does it matter 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.840 if you actually believe in anything or not. But can 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.040 compare and contrast her saying that with what she said 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.560 on the View when she was asked about her record 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.280 in the Biden administration. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.840 If anything, would you have done something differently than President 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.160 Biden during the past four years. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:01.240 There is not a thing that comes to mind, not a. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.240 Thing that comes to mard except for perhaps I don't 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.760 know the border, which, of course you know, one of 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.320 Barden's first actions as president was to stop building the wall, 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.080 to undo all of the controls Trump had put in 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.040 place to stop the flow of illegal margrants. Well, Kamala 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.040 Harris is now the strongest person you've ever seen on 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.840 the border. We're going to build the wall again. It 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.960 She would not change a single thing that Joe Biden 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:23.639 has done. 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.679 But I loved in that sixty minutes interview where they 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.399 said one of the problems is people just don't know 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.760 what you stand for. I mean, talk about lobbing a 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.600 tennis spore for her, it's an easy whack. You can 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.600 now put forward your agenda. She speaks for almost a minute, 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:37.960 and we're still clueless as to what she stands for. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.640 Now, I've traveled and I've talked to people. Of course, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.919 it's just internal polling. That's all these politicians ever really do. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.600 They're not knocking on thousands of doors, getting thousand first 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.959 hand opinions from people here on the ground, the people 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.520 who have elected them to rule and rain over them. No, no, no, no, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.400 it's all just internal polling. So the Democrats go out 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.359 to poll and now they say, oh, you were four 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:05.000 Medicare for all. That's not polling very well. So now 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.760 she's not for medical for all. She was all for 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.159 gun control. Now she's getting around telling everyone, oh, irown guns. 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.800 I used to be a prosecutor, so yeah, I'm all 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.720 for protecting oneself and people should have guns. And that's 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.960 perfectly fine. Fracking absolutely opposed to it. Let's ban a 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.800 lot of it. This is a menace to the future 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.520 of humanity. Now it's absolutely fine because she needs to 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.359 get the votes in the fracking states. So here she 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.320 is trying to make it about well, that was before 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.440 I knew better, and that was before as VP. I've 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.160 traveled around, I've talked to so many people, and that's 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:45.680 what's changed my mind. No, you just have absolutely no convictions. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.640 You thought that those policies were popular. You found out 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.280 otherwise through your internal polling, and now you've changed your mind, 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.440 which is why Trump openly jokes he's going to buy 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.280 her a Maga hat because so many of the Democrats' 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:04.480 policies just mirroring his own. Trying to erase that massive 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.960 point of difference that they started with. The Dems are like, oh, 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.280 but we're not so bad. I mean, all the things 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.479 that the Republicans say we're going to do, we're not 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.320 actually gonna do. We're just going to maybe slightly tweak, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.560 but it's not true anymore, and hoping that by narrowing 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.840 that point of difference, they're going to scoop up those 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:22.800 would be voters. 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.560 The only convictions Kamala Harris has are the ones she 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.920 achieved against other people when she was a prosecutor. I'm 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.200 pretty sure. But just while we're talking about Kamala Harris. 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.639 The other thing, of course she's playing up big time 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.399 in this election campaign is that she grew up in 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.639 a middle class suburb and everyone cared about the front 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.760 lawn and all this sort of stuff. Anytime she's asked 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.640 about the economy, oh, I grew up middle class, as 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:50.800 though that means something anyway, one smart young girl has decided, Look, 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:52.680 I don't want to do the chores around the house. 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.040 That keeps coming and asking me, why aren't you doing 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.760 the chores? Well, she's taking a leaf out of Kamala 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.400 Harris's book, and it seems to be working. Hey, Jenny, 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.439 did you do your chores today? Well? 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.879 I grew up in a middle class family. My mom 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.480 she was Indian, and I grew up in a middle 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.959 class family. And we are proud of our generation. And 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:20.960 we all we all had small little towns, and we 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.520 all grew up having small shops. 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.240