1 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: Bom three sixty a league from every angle. After an 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: incredible win in New Zealand, the Tigers are ready to 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: bring it to the Eels this Easter Monday Monday, and 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: the only place you can watch it is on Fox League. 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Money was no object. 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: What's the first thing you'd buy? You're Jeff Bezos. 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Here we go? Oh God? 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: Is this this Easter? 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: Ko Sports on Fox League is saving the best for 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 4: last Easter Monday From three thirty it's the paramounta Eels 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: and the West Tigers, two clubs joined not just by borders, 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: but by extraordinary athletes blessed with this ability to make 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: crowds stare enough and rules. 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: It was what was. 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 4: Like the great Pat Richards he started for both thirty 16 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 4: seven games for the Yeels and eighty two rip snorters 17 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 4: for the other. 18 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Mob Richards checked out the. 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 4: Hero. 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Look at then there's the modern day hero, Mitched Moses. 21 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: He's another who have done his best for both sides. 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: Of the fence. 23 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: The go ahead, Caesar, Caesar storms he got. 24 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: There's never much in it and. 25 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: It's always worth a raw. 26 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: This cincilating way to end your East, to break Paramount Eels, 27 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: The West Tigers be part of a growing tradition. Easter 28 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: Monday right here on KO Sports, Australia Sports Leader. 29 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: Joining me the great Gordon Tellers, Let's bring the journal 30 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: is in Brentery to Michael Carrianas and Easter Monday, the 31 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Eels up against the West Tigers exclusively live right here 32 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: on Fox League Monday, three point thirty pm. When a 33 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: game this is going to be and the West Tigers 34 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: are flying at the moment. What to win? It was 35 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: over the Warriors, Rudy. 36 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: I saw this coming. Some of us thought they were 37 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: going to be a good You have. 38 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 6: Been drinking the cool and maybe you've should drink some 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 6: of the cool ad as well, because they look the goods. 40 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 6: You've tipped the top four, well I did have them 41 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 6: top eight and I'll tell you what they win. 42 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: You know what the the win on Monday Top four? Okay, 43 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: Benji heard it her first brother. 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: They are doing a great job in all seriousness, the 45 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: way they're playing and Benji's coaching at their strings. Adam 46 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Dewey's been sensational without no lu they go over there 47 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: and beat and inform Warriors and they smashed him. Mick. 48 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the best wins in the last couple 49 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: of seasons, no doubt about that. They look they look fit, 50 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 5: they look fast, they look happy, and they look connected 51 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: as a group. And when you sit there and you 52 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: talk around coaches, one of the things which is key 53 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: is connectivity, and the Tigers have that at the moment. 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 5: I don't know if they're a top four side, especially. 55 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: If a lot of career benchmark all of a sudden, 56 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: He's going to get one of them right. Sooner or 57 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: a sooner or way, you will get it right, Gordy. 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Are we convinced now that Benji can coach? 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think so because the players are buying. 60 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 7: Then last year with the Galvin situation, that would have 61 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 7: been hard on the Tigers as well. I know it's 62 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 7: called Benji bor but I love the way they're working 63 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 7: hard for each other in defense and the resilience in 64 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 7: that Tiger's jersey that you don't often see. And that's 65 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 7: no disrespect, but I like how hard and they do 66 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 7: look fitter, stronger, faster. 67 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Mitchell moses, you think it's time for him to stand up. 68 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: You think he's had a bit of a quiet start. 69 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he hasn't had. 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: A bad year, But I think you know, When you 71 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 5: look at a lot of people's preseason prediction, they thought 72 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: he was going to be the Dallian player of the year. 73 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 5: I don't think he's reached those heights yet. His running 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 5: game is his number one threat, but I don't know 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 5: if it's the preseason injury that he carried. They had 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: a broken tow during the preseason which kept him out 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 5: for a long time, and he just looks hampered. 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 9: For me. 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 5: We saw him layon set up this try on the 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: weekend and then he limped off. He limped back to 81 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 5: kick the goal, and I spoke with paramatter officials today 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 5: and they're adamant that there's nothing wrong with him. 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 8: But he's definitely ginger. 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 5: And you know, when Mitch is at his best, you 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: know he's a run first player and we know he 86 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: can be an elite seven. 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 8: But I just don't think we've sent enough of it 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 8: this year. 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: I think the Eels are very close. I love their shape, 90 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I love the way which they look in their attack. 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: They didn't come up against Penrith last week still with 92 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty points on them, and they've got to improve their defense, 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: as he wasn't happy after the game. But I think 94 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: they're very close, and I think if there is a 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: game where he's going to break out for this season, 96 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be on Monday. 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 8: Has been bad, right, but he hasn't got to. 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: Much embraced jumped off off the Tigers already. You've just 99 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: said that that Paramatta will beat him on Monday. 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: I didn't. 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: Didn't you say if they play well, I. 102 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Think it's an opportunity for Mitch to have a breakout 103 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: game of the season. Where did you get that from? 104 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: Well, just interpreted what you were saying. Break anyway. 105 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: I'm not speaking Greek. No, I didn't know why they 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: can easily beat them. I just think that if there's 107 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: if there's a game that really sets up for Mitch 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: to stand up and the Paramounter hit their straps against 109 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: the West Tigers, it's it's always a good battle. You 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: just think West. You think they're home the Tigers at all. 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: Look at the two Paramountal losses this year. They were 112 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: against good footy teams. That's what Melbourn penoth. So I 113 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: think the Tigers deserved Star clear favorites, right, But are 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: they favorites. I think they should be. I don't think 115 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 3: they are, though, are they? 116 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 5: I think the concern for paramount favorites for this coup too, 117 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 5: which is going to and then you look at their 118 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: forward packs get a little bit brittle there for the 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 5: paramount of ees. No Jermaine Hopboard, no Matt Dorry, both 120 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: acls and consecutive weeks and Ryan Madison's not going to 121 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 5: play another game for him. So that's a large chunk 122 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 5: of their cap on the sideline with a side that 123 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: you know they're looking in the market to try and 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 5: get some middles now, but they're just none out there. 125 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: You have it ready, they are the favorites the Tigers 126 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: going into Monday. Kieran Forren has addressed the media as 127 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: the Seagulls get set the fight of Brisbane for his 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 1: first game in charge. 129 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 10: If you look at my professional career, I've been thrown 130 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 10: in the deep end, you know a few times, and 131 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 10: I've attacked it. It's a huge, huge task. It's one 132 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 10: that most people would assume I'm not ready for it. 133 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 10: But if the manly hierarchy feel I can get a change, 134 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 10: then I'll I'll. 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: Do what I can to do that. 136 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 10: So you want, I feel I've got the values and 137 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 10: the standards to obviously be a head coach. I never 138 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 10: shied away from tough conversations as a player. It certainly 139 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 10: doesn't bother me as a cakes having tough conversations. 140 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: You think it's a younger five fair I think so. 141 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 10: Bulldog look like I said, you look at my journey. 142 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 10: I was I too young to captain the Kiwi's at 143 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 10: twenty two. If I was going to be worried about 144 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 10: the outside noise, order have stepped into the role bulldog 145 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 10: like this. There's been heaps of criticisms throughout my career. 146 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 10: That's what I keep alluding to Joey's nineteen. We're not 147 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 10: traveling good enough to put the responsibility of turning a 148 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 10: game around on a nineteen year old shoulder who's played 149 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 10: twenty one games the league. 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: Good to see files taking border Richie very seriously there, 151 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Bulldog asking the hard hitting questions like he was the 152 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: other nine shaming up to you, Gordy. But he's got 153 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: that steally look any for it's not he's about to 154 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: play a game. 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 8: He's ready for this. Yeah, he's impressive. 156 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 5: I think the press conference went for twenty minutes, probably 157 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 5: as long as most of there's has a season long 158 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: press conferences to go when he was in charge it 159 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: at merely. But yeah, you can understand why Karan Forum 160 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: was such a popular player. You know, you guys had 161 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: Jake Travoivich on last night and already they're going to 162 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 5: play from you know that they're going to start physical 163 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: against the Dolphins tomorrow night. Like, it's a huge ask 164 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: for Kieran Forum, But when you look at everyone that 165 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: was available to him, he was the right choice for now. 166 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: I think you look at Foz's career, his life, right, 167 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: He's faced some pretty significant challenges, like this pales in 168 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: comparison to the challenges he's taken on in his life. 169 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: So that's why I don't think your p is daunted 170 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: by this. He looked looks really outwardly confident about himself 171 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: and the position he's in, and he should be because look, 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: he always wanted to be a head coach, right, I 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: mean the minute he stopped playing, we knew he knew 174 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: knew he was going to end the coaching ranks and 175 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: at some point in his career will be a head coach. Right, 176 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: So he's got really nothing to lose, and you can 177 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: lose footy games, yeah, but he doesn't have It's like 178 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: he's playing with the house money, right. I mean, it 179 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what happens from here. 180 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 8: You can do your reputation some damage, like if that 181 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 8: if the. 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: People will go Mick he got you know, even if 183 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: they suffered from he got tossed in really difficult. But 184 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: you can't hold that against him, you know. I'm not 185 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: sure he can suffer significant damage talking about a side 186 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: that's lost three games in a row, right, and people 187 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: don't expect him to do much. So I think, as 188 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: I said, I think he's playing with hell turned. 189 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 7: Onto the players, right because no one was and we 190 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 7: had Jake here last night, and the respect that he's 191 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 7: got in the dressing room right as a player and 192 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 7: now as a coach, and there's going to be a 193 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 7: sugar hit for the guys. But once the emotion goes 194 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 7: out of it, how hard the players are wanting to 195 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 7: work at their trade. 196 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: I think players make coaches, Gordy, that's the thing, right. Well, 197 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: so he's still got the same squad. 198 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: There was a board meeting today at the mainly Seagulls. 199 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 5: What was discussed the first time the board has been 200 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 5: able to meet since the accident of Anthony Seabold and 201 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 5: Obviously the coaching situation was number one on the agend 202 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 5: there and they've just decided not to have an aggressive 203 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 5: approach in the short term. They start sending out some 204 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: people to get a gauge if they want to coach mainly, 205 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 5: but they're not going to rush into a decision because 206 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 5: genuinely they want to see if Kieran Forant is the 207 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 5: man that can lead him long term. 208 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 8: And I was probably a little bit. 209 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: Surprised by that, you know, as the weekend evolved, you know, 210 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 5: is Kering for And the right man to coach mainly 211 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 5: long term? 212 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 8: That's what they're going to wait, they're seriously considering that. 213 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 8: They're considering it. 214 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: Depending on how it may not. It could be an 215 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: apprenticeship and so go. 216 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 5: And that's the thing, right, if they go and make 217 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 5: a decision in the next two or three weeks of 218 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 5: their long term head coach, then it rules Keering out. 219 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: You can't give you can't give Kieran for on the 220 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 5: job within the next fortnight. So this is going to 221 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 5: be a five or six weeks sample size to get 222 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: an indication if he's going to be the right man 223 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: for the job. They don't have a subcommittee set up 224 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 5: either Jason King, the new chief executive, is going to 225 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 5: leave the search for a new coach. 226 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: It would have been insulting to Kieran if they started 227 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: search for a coach straight away, because you can't portray 228 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: this image that you or tell people, yeah, Kieran's in 229 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: the running for a coach for the head coaching job, 230 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: and then stay a search straight away because that says no, 231 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: he's not. You're not looking at him as all at all. Right, 232 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 3: So they had to delay it. 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: They have been talking about him before this like this. 234 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: I don't say once they made the decision break that 235 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: made him the interim and then turned around and said, yeah, 236 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: Karens are the running for the head coach. Well, you can't, 237 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: you can't. You can't start that pursution. 238 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: When did they make that decision He's not just in 239 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: the room, he's in the running. Was that at the 240 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: board meeting? 241 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 8: Well over the past twenty four twenty two hours, I. 242 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: Think people have said to them, you need to shake 243 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: here in some respect and wait a little bit, give 244 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: him some time. 245 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 5: And considering the short turnaround for Thursday's game, what they 246 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: haven't done is sat down with Kieran, looked him in 247 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 5: the eye and go, do you actually want this job 248 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 5: long term? Because it's been he's told us that, he 249 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 5: said he definitely definitely looks like he wants it, but 250 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 5: they haven't had that discussion with him yet to work out. Okay, well, 251 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 5: what's your best path for a long term coaching career. 252 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 5: Is it taking a back seat to someone over the 253 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 5: next two or three seasons or is it maintaining the 254 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 5: role as head coach? 255 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: All right, Frank Peronisi has shut down talks of a 256 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: possible move to mainly take. 257 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 11: A look a bit embarrassing all this media stuff. I'll 258 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 11: be honest. We should be talking about kept as and 259 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 11: coaches to deal with that, not sixty year old or 260 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 11: plus old football managers. It's been a slow obviously a 261 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 11: slow week media week up north. No idea where this 262 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 11: has come from Spain. Do any won for a start, regardless, 263 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 11: I've got three years remaining. I'm a contract and I'm 264 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 11: very very happy where I am. Love the club, love 265 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 11: the people I work with, and love what I do. 266 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 11: So no idea where it came from, and the center 267 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 11: it ends the better he. 268 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: Had, he had no idea where it came from. We 269 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: know where it came from the Great Bulldog Richie in 270 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: Bulldogs Bye. 271 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: That made I mean, look, it made sense, right. I mean, 272 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: if mainly go looking for a head of football, he's 273 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 3: the guy you go after because he's the best in 274 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: the business. But he's on a long term. He's got 275 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 3: two and a half years left in his contract. I 276 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: think he's at he'd be the highest played ahead of 277 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: football in the game mainly. 278 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: Don't we all knew that, right? And Dave Ricchio said 279 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: last night he thought that it was a PR stunt 280 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: that they got Kiering for and as the interim because 281 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: this is the PR stunt. 282 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think, I look, it's obviously a good PR 283 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: that you're going to go and chase a blot like that. 284 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: But as I said, you can look at it that way. 285 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: I don't look at that while look at as they're 286 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: aiming hot higher sporing to get the best bite they can, 287 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 3: even though it was never realistic and I'm not sure 288 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 3: they ever knew it was realistic, but you've got to 289 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: portray that that view breaking you out there to get 290 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: the best I. 291 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: Reckon the fans would want that. 292 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 7: The fans would want you as a club to go 293 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 7: out there and try to get the best man for 294 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 7: the job. 295 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: All right, Valentine Holmes and Clink Gothason have taken ownership 296 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: of their horror start at twenty twenty six while dodging 297 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: any questions of pressure on their coach. 298 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: Do you reckon that the pressure on Shane Flanagans maybe 299 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: a bit of an overreaction. 300 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 12: Didn't want to talk about that at the moment, but 301 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 12: you know we're the ones that I need to own 302 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 12: it us players. 303 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 8: Where the ones out there you know, dropping them. 304 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 12: Ball, forsing the past or you know, not making our 305 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 12: tackles and the coaching stuff are doing a really good job. 306 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: How much ownership of senior players been taken? Nice you 307 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: we've particularly given that Shane's. 308 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: On the department wrong them? 309 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love mate. 310 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 12: Where it's the game we're in, obviously not the way 311 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 12: we wanted to start on for and obviously planet that 312 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 12: we want to be planning, and everyone puts their hand 313 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 12: up for those reasons, and we're no different as a 314 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 12: senior leadership and captains of the club. 315 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 10: Given what happened mainly with Sea Bull getting split up 316 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 10: to three game doesn't make you think it for what 317 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 10: could happen if you boys can't tell the season or. 318 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: You don't want to think about the worst side of it. 319 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: You just want to be able to go week to 320 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: week and that's what we're trying to do at the moment. 321 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: We've got to go out there against Cowboys in the 322 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: weekend and try and get our first win of the year. 323 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: How much confidence you still got. 324 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 9: Juice in your legs to hold down that for your 325 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 9: back spot. 326 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 12: I still do think I'm doing a consistent job, always 327 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 12: have my whole career. I know what I bring to 328 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 12: a team, and I've got full confidence in me doing 329 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 12: a job and until Shane and the staff don't think 330 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 12: I can. 331 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: And it's that's where it's at. Tough going. It's Saint 332 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: George Dragons for their players, and it's I've been there before. 333 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: It's a tough situation to be now. Really you have 334 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: declared war. That's right, Well it is back page daily. 335 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: Tell everyone at the headlines. 336 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Buzz Rothfield quick. 337 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: Look, look, I mean it's pretty obvious he's under some pressure. 338 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: I don't know how immense the pressure is right now, 339 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: but the next month is crucial. They've got the Cowboys 340 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: this weekend. Look, we know, no disrespect to Dragons fans, 341 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: but a cogra. They can get pretty feral when they're 342 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: not winning, right, So if they lose this weekend, it 343 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: could get very messy. Then they play Manly another game 344 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: they probably should win. Rooster South, Right, it's a crucial 345 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: month for him, There's no doubt because you know when 346 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: everyone talked about Seeds getting sacked, right, I said three 347 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: games this year? Everyone, no, no, this stretches back to 348 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: last year. Well, you know what, Flannels won fourd to 349 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: a end the season last year. This is an eight 350 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: game losing streak. It's not a full game losing streak. 351 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: So you can't point it Seeds and go oh, it's 352 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: not just about this year, it's about last year. And 353 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: then turn around when it comes to Flannel and go oh, 354 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: he's only lost four games this year. You can't cout 355 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: next year. You've got it right. So that's the issue 356 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: he's got. And if you go for the next month 357 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: and don't win games, you should win. I mean, they 358 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: should probably be the Cowboys at home, even though they 359 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: were terrible on Sunday night. Gordy, no disrespect right to 360 00:15:59,400 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: the Titans. 361 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: And then everyone's been disrespecting you this week. 362 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: They should beat many right south and the rooster different 363 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: proposition on holidays. You've got to walk away with two 364 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: wins for the next four games. I think it's I 365 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: think it's well. 366 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 7: So penn one on come in made the decision apparently right. 367 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 7: Do the Dragons have that ab. 368 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: And they've got a split board between the Saint George 369 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: side and the winside. Don't always see I don't always 370 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: agree right, So look, really one hundred percent right, his 371 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 5: futures come under the spotlight because if you see it 372 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 5: over forward, you go from six, well, it's dire right 373 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 5: from there. But you know there's not a there's not 374 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 5: a want to get rid of him. That's probably the 375 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: best way to describe where you felt like Anthony Seabold 376 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 5: wasn't supported by those around him. That's not the case 377 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: of shame. Flann again at the moment. 378 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Okay, why isn't their recruitment come under fire? 379 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 5: It should, It should definitely come under fire because if 380 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 5: you look at their recruit and I know you guys 381 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: put the list up last night, but if you look 382 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: at their recruits over the past couple of seas, how 383 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: many of those players walk into every other side? 384 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 8: Very few, very very. 385 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: Few how many of them were signed by shame Flanning. 386 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 8: Well, majority of them, right, and he has to take response. 387 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 5: There's no doubt with the recruitment side of things, Shamee 388 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: Flanagan has to take some responsibility with the way this 389 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 5: roster has been shaped. That included paying full freight for 390 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: Clint Gutherson, that included you know, Shane flying to towns 391 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 5: Will to sign Valentine Holmes and these guys are their 392 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 5: highest paid players and they're not getting back for your buck. 393 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 5: As soon as you get your nine hundred thousand dollars. 394 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 5: Players are wrong, you cannot recover. 395 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Well, even the Atkinson decision, Like I know you've said, 396 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: well they bought him as a seven, but they brought 397 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: him as a seven, you know what I mean, Like 398 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense to me. If you've tried to 399 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: turn a six into a seven and you're to paid 400 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: the money you did and really just go all in 401 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: on it and it doesn't work, then that is actually 402 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: the decision of the Dragons and it's their responsibility and 403 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: the coach right. 404 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 8: No doubt, it is the responsibility of those that went off. 405 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't that put more pressure on him then. 406 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 5: Well he can't he can't go there and go, well, 407 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 5: this is a squad I inherit. There are a couple 408 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: of legacy contracts in there that he inherited, right, But 409 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: now the shaping of the roster Shane flat again has 410 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 5: had a lot to do with it. 411 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of heat on, isn't there, Like you know, 412 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: you need to say, the reality is that they're one 413 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: of the most passionate fan bases, if not the most 414 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: in the competition, the most vocal and parochial, and even 415 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: after the game on the weekend, you could see the 416 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: level go up like that was a real defining moment 417 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: for the club. And you feel like if they lose 418 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: the next two, it's gonna there's gonna be a dead said. 419 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 8: Right, They're not. 420 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: They're not a club that sucks coaches lightly. They're a 421 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 5: conservative club and they have been conservative for as long 422 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 5: as I can remember, right, So they're not rushing him 423 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 5: out the door. But look at that moment there where 424 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 5: that we just saw with you know, Valentine Holmes, he's 425 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 5: one of their highest paid players. He's on the same 426 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 5: money as someone like Stephen Crichton, Stephen Crichdon his ice 427 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 5: in those moments, so when it comes down to coaching, 428 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: I'm not sure it's a coaching issue with the Dragons. 429 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: I think a lot of it is definitely recruitment and execution. 430 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: The problem is now, I Mick is because they've gone 431 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: the way that they have and they've made the decisions 432 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: that they have. They've had to sign a player like 433 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: Cola Matanga on over's one point to two million dollars, 434 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: five years, six million dollars for Coloona Mattania. If they 435 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: gave for Bully, he's a million dollars like now, they're 436 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: going to have to pay two three hundred thousand dollars extra. 437 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Then maybe you know, maybe six or seven eight clubs 438 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: in the competition would pay. What do they do with 439 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: Guthson and Homes? 440 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 5: Just on that point breath, because you know, you speak 441 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 5: to people in and around the game, you speak to agents, 442 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 5: and they've put a premium on going on to the 443 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: there's attacks that the Dragons have to pay essentially to 444 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: a track players, and we saw that and going to change. 445 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: But that was not going to change in the short term. 446 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 5: It won't change. And that's why I wasn't critical of 447 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 5: them for the way they were so aggressive to pursue 448 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 5: a key on because they needed that. 449 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: That's fair they needed that. That's fair enough. Like I'm 450 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: not saying it's a bad signing by any means. I'm 451 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: just bringing up the point that unfortunately that's going to 452 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: be the way it is for any players coming to 453 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: the club. 454 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: Well, they've just become a club that has to play 455 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 3: overs breath. I mean that happens in footy, right, It's 456 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: going to be more with Perth and p and G 457 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 3: Company exactly. 458 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: It's got competitions where would you rather go on them? 459 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: Well, there's good money money on offer MP. 460 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: They're going to be going against those clubs like they're 461 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: and with every loss is the less appealing they are. 462 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 8: One advantages they do have. 463 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 5: Is they've got these homegrown products and their forward pack 464 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 5: who a couple of them going to be elite Like 465 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: Hamie Stewart is going to be a representative player. 466 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 8: You've got the Couchman. 467 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: There are going to be two hundred plus n roll players, 468 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 5: Dylan Egan is going to be a good player when 469 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 5: he gets back. And signing Key so that their forward 470 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 5: pack is not that far away from being a. 471 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: They're coming into a losing side and they might have 472 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: been winners as juniors, right, but they're coming into senior 473 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 3: football and they're into a team that is not winning, 474 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: and that can become almost cancer. 475 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 8: It can become a habit. 476 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 5: But these guys like they're they're hard working guys who 477 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: I feel like, even at their young age, like will 478 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 5: set the standards. 479 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: Guys like that Mick, who've got talent, and talent doesn't 480 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: get you there all the time. 481 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 8: Talents, That's what I'm saying that these guys are hard 482 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 8: work and it. 483 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: Doesn't always get you there either. 484 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 8: I mean, if you've got your work and talent, what else. 485 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: You need a bit of luck as well along the way. 486 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: And they're coming into an environment that is not conducive 487 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: to being a league football right now, we've seen what 488 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: it's done to Bloke's there, right. 489 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: I disagree some of these guys. 490 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, but look, the players that have gone backwards are 491 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 5: the guys at the back end of their careers. The 492 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 5: young guys have actually improved really, so I completely disagree. 493 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: That's not conducive to a good environment. I feel like 494 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 5: they've got their top one recruitment wrong and you can 495 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 5: never recover once you do that. 496 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 8: You just can't. 497 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: And we're seeing it now and we're going to see 498 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 5: it next year because they've got Valentine homes, they've got 499 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: Clink Outherson on big deals for next year, and you 500 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: can't move those players. 501 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 8: No one's going to sign them, all right. 502 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Bronco star Ben Hart is explaining the club's decision to 503 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: drop just high Carapani after an off field incident. 504 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 9: Obviously it was disappointing, and you know, Karen knows he 505 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 9: made a mistake and we've spoken to him about that 506 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 9: and he understands and thanks responsibility for it, and as 507 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 9: a club and a leadership, we thought it was best. 508 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, he just didn't play this week, and yeah. 509 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: There was a bit of a punishment. 510 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: You're half back long whek off the bench the instance. 511 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 9: It's frustrating in some aspects, but you know, I've done 512 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 9: it before in the past time, you know. As frustrating 513 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 9: as it is doing that, it's it's something that, like 514 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 9: I said, I'm used to and just. 515 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Have to get on with it. 516 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm still pretty keen to play next year at 517 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 9: the moment. Obviously there's a lot of way to go 518 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 9: in this season and whatnot, but at this stage I'm 519 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 9: feeling good made and then pretty keen to play on. 520 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: Very interesting there, Ben Haunter at the end of that 521 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: press conference interview are saying that he's frustrated with playing 522 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: off the bench, which you know, I don't mind that 523 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: because he's got a desire to start. But I thought 524 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: he was content in the position that he was in. 525 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: That takes that take you guys by surprise surprise. 526 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: I imagine he thought he'd be the starting hooker right 527 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: this year because he wasn't going to play hard with 528 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: Ezra and Adam Reynolds there, so maybe he thought he'd 529 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 3: be the starting hooker. I mean, I was obviously annoyed 530 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: by it. 531 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 5: I'm not surprised, having ridden the Ben Hunt roller coaster 532 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: in Sydney at the Dragons for three or so years. 533 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 5: It was a thing when he was going to get 534 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 5: shifted or when he wanted to move back to Queensland. 535 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 8: So he does. He does talk his mind, but you're 536 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 8: missing down here, Actually. 537 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 7: Would you be starting with I look, there's two theories 538 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 7: right because the way the Broncos have been playing and Spurst, 539 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 7: if he's in the middle doing or the defense early, 540 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 7: well he loses the spark that he's got and then 541 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 7: if Adam Reynolds goes down, well, it's a luxury to 542 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 7: have him there. And I think Ben Hunt at this 543 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 7: stage is probably a better number seven. And it was 544 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 7: a good decision with Kropine because that becomes consistent. That's 545 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 7: what they did with Shibasaki last year as well. 546 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: Gordy, you received an honor here at Fox if you've 547 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: got your room upstairs. Yeah, it's pretty cool too, to 548 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: be honest with you. 549 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: Yes, so where the guys call the footy out of 550 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 2: on the weekends. It was nice. It's thanks Steven. 551 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: You got your room back well the clean club. 552 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 8: Fools. 553 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he rang me today when I was having 554 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: a coffee. 555 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: That's disrespectful. 556 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: You've got to be careful for one. 557 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: Your apen falls every day. See us to host that 558 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: the Dogs on Good Friday. There's been some crackers and 559 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: some great moments over the years. I can't wait for 560 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: this one. Remember this one. This was incredible. He wasn't Jimmy. 561 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: He comes a finger. I don't know whether. 562 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: Jimmy enjoys this or not when he comes around. There's 563 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: a Good Friday because we bring it up every year. 564 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: The Jimmy. 565 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: Let's get to the footy, and we'll start with the 566 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: halves of the Bulldogs. Haven't changed the halves. What are 567 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? 568 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: Really? 569 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: And going to move to six at all? 570 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: It depends how the game plays out, right, if they're 571 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: struggling and he thinks Crichton needs to get his hands 572 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: on the ball more than it wouldn't rule it out. 573 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: I think I'm he'll change right. 574 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: But street number nine passing the ball, well, I've checked. 575 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: I just checked with Dave Riollo, who manages Matt Burton 576 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: today and whether Matt had any concerns will happen. He said, 577 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: Matt's very happy. He loves the club he has and 578 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 3: he's not the sort of guy to kick up with 579 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: Steve Matt Burton. He's very not laid back is probably 580 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: the wrong word, but he has no concerns at all 581 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: with what happened on the weekend at the moment. So 582 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any great issue there at the 583 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: moment break other than they're just not scoring enough points 584 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 3: and I think if they're not, if they're struggling on 585 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: the weekend, he'll move Crichton. He's not afraid to do it. 586 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 8: You don't like this to you, No no, I actually don't. 587 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 5: I don't think they can win a comp with Matt 588 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: Burton at six and the Locky Galvin Matt Burton combination 589 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: just doesn't work because of guys like Stephen Cridon. You know, 590 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 5: Lucky Galvin and Matt Burton instincts are runners. They're great 591 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 5: runners of the footing, so why why are they trying 592 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 5: to pigeonhole them or take that asset away. I think 593 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: if Matt Burton goes to center, I think that opens up. 594 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 5: You've got Crichton and burd On on either side, with 595 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 5: sure No Sullivan at seven and Lucky Galvin. 596 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: There is no excuse for a six or seven to 597 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: not get the ball to kick out and Crichton on 598 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: your edge. Why are we even having this discussion? So 599 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: it does my heading like at the end of the day, 600 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: we hadn't know four what Willie Tonga was one of 601 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: the best centers, if not the best senate early early 602 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: ball that's all you do. I'd fire it to him 603 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: straight away and bobcat early. But whatever, you get your 604 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: key players the quality ball and if they don't can't 605 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: do it. If they can't bring the best out of 606 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Crichton and kick out and their right edge, whoever's playing 607 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: Oppresston and whoever they pick in the centers this week. 608 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: If they can't do it, then you change it, like 609 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: you don't bring your your potent center, one of the 610 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: best in the game into five eight and move you 611 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: fight like that's that's not the solution. 612 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll get more ball this week, Breath, I'm 613 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 3: sure do you understand what I'm saying. I know what 614 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: you're saying, Broth, but I'm sure he'll get more ball 615 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: this week. I'm sure that message doesn't happen. 616 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: Can I ask I change it? 617 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: That's that's That's pretty much it. 618 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 7: You guys asked the gem that message down. So why 619 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 7: is it always Burton have to be moved when he's 620 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 7: played Origin? Why can't the seven be moved? Because Burt 621 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 7: put and put a controlling seven and have a six 622 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 7: that's played Origin with a big kick. 623 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 5: Because I think Burton could be an elite center, I 624 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: don't think. I don't think Galvin can be an elite 625 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: player in any other position except for in the hearts. Well, 626 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 5: I think Matt Burdon move him to center. We've seen 627 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 5: him do it for New South. I see him do 628 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 5: it for Penereth. I think he'll be you know, you've 629 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 5: got Crichton and Burden on either side. I think that's potent. 630 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: I agree. Some sad news today Nathan Merritt devastating boys 631 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: like I heard this a couple of weeks ago, and 632 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: then again it was reported today played a lot against 633 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Nathan is a similar age and what an incredible player 634 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: finisher he was for the sing Rabbits and this is 635 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: your shocking. It's so sad he's going to the game. 636 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: I believe Friday going to ring the bell. 637 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: And obviously that story. Bulldog spoke to him and he 638 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: said it looks at he's only got to four months live. 639 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: Shuddering for him. And he's, as you said, breaks the 640 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: South legend, one of the great players of that club. 641 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: And you know, hopefully it can last longer than that. 642 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: He's a great fellow. 643 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 7: And when Souse was struggling for like a lot of 644 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 7: those years, he will score and tries that will. He 645 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 7: was picking up Souse on a few occasions, putting on 646 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 7: his back and his bed down a lot of work. 647 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: And I actually played with his old man, actually old 648 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: tone him too. 649 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: For Red Fir from everyone near fox Ley we wish 650 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: him and his family all the best in this terrible circumstances. 651 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: Josh King has revealed too he coming to me through 652 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: his all smiles after shock stroke is the storm prepared 653 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: to take on the Panthers. 654 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, so we've heard this one on the dot come 655 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 13: in and spoke to us and to he's apparently doing 656 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 13: really well this morning. He's in good spirits and he's 657 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 13: up sort of walking around a bit and talking. So 658 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 13: that's really positive. Not sure the extent of everything at 659 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 13: the moment, but it's a real positive that at least 660 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 13: he's able to be moving around and talking. As long 661 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 13: as he gets back to full health, that's the main 662 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 13: thing right now. Then, I think it's just a lack 663 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 13: of concentration. Think for us again, we're putting ourselves in 664 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 13: really good positions, but probably the latest stages of the 665 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 13: game were lacking every of that attention to detail, lacking 666 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 13: every of that concentration and letting us slip obviously, So 667 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 13: it's not far away again we're putting ourselves in those 668 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 13: positions probably just you know, fifteen twenty minute periods where 669 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 13: we're letting go a little bit. 670 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: Ready, what's the latest one. 671 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: To look he was expected to leave hospital of Sarvo broth. 672 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: He's still going to go to rehab center and undergo 673 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: some rehabilitator rehabilitation, but all the signs are really promising 674 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: with him. What they're saying is he's in a great space. 675 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: He's recovered really well from obviously that blood plot, and 676 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: they're hopefully we'll plaguing it at some point this year, 677 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: later in the year. But good news so given it 678 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: was pretty frightening circumstances. 679 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: That would have been real scary. Thank you ready, thank you, 680 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Miko over tigers. Yeah, top four babies with the cool 681 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Aid's feeling. You've predicted him. Now you're in the mock. 682 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: We're good, all right. Up next it's the Legends of 683 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Gender with better License. Steve write you next Monday. The 684 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: monstas Cobbage begins. 685 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 12: Mm hmmm, what about that? 686 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: What? What about her? 687 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 8: Oh myness, I'm going ain't that man again? 688 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: And why if I loves making music? 689 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Well, my friend, I get wearing the long road again. 690 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: Should pay right chock on the 691 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 6: Road again, going places that I've never been