1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: On scorn Leaves, Australia. This is the Reader PaneI Show. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. I'm 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Danikidi Giorgio coming up tonight. Donald Trump gives federal employees 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: an ultimatum get back to work or you'll be fired. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: The brilliant Douglas Murray will join us shortly. The US 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: President announces a crackdown on government waste. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: You won't believe. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: What tens of millions of dollars has been spent on Army. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Horowitz has all the details. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Entertainment news with Kinsey Schofield as Prince Harry's secret visa 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: records could soon be made public, and of course Lefty's 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: losing it as Trump derangement syndrome takes hold. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: Told You, Told You, Told You told You. 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: Johnny me Now is one of the finest thinkers of 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: his generation, the author of international best sellers including The 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Madness of Crowds, The Strange Death of Europe, and The 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: War on the West. Douglas Murray, Douglas, really good to 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: see you again, Thanks so much for joining me on 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: the show. I want to start with Donald Trump's issue. 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 2: He's warning to federal employees, and if you don't return 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: to work by February six, you'll be fired. 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: This is what he said. 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: As everyone knows most of the time they're not working, 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: they're not very productive, and it's unfair to the millions 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: of people in the United States who are in fact 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: working hard from job sites and not from their home. 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: As federal employees, they must meet a high standard. They're 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: representing our government, they're representing our country. If they don't 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: agree by February six to show up back to work 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: in their office, they will be terminated. 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: He's offering buyouts to those who opt to leave their 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: jobs with seven months pay. 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: Douglas, this president is not mucking around. 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: How critical is it to have federal workers actually back 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: at work and actually doing work? 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Well, it would be nice, wouldn't it. I mean in 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: America alike, in Britain and I'm sure Australia. The last 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: residue of people who pretend to be really terrified of 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: COVID are federal employees and civil servants and the like. 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Many of them seem still to have an extraordinary fear 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: of the coronavirus or something like that, because otherwise, why 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: are they not at their desks. Most people had to 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: return to work after the pandemic. But it's amazing how 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: federal workers, civil servants and others almost to get these 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: sort of cushy deals where at best their their work. 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: We were sort of flipped around where you had a 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: couple of days sometimes in the office and then five 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: days in the garden at home to recuperate from it. 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: I think that we all know that this is one 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: of the great boondoggles of all time. It's high time 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: that federal workers did return to the office. And it's 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: quite right to say, if you're not going to shar 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: up to work, then guess what, you don't work here anymore. 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: I agree, in the end, you've got to foster a 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: good environment. You can't do that when you've got half 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: of the workforce still at home doing goodness knows what. 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about Donald Trump's One. 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: Flag Directive, whereby only the United States of America flag 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: is authorized to be flown or displayed at US facilities, 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: both domestic and abroad, and in US government content. 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: Douglas, I've got to say it's bizarre. 62 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: It took an executive order to get here, but it 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: is the sign of the times. 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: We're in. 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: In your view, what does this directive represent and how 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: will it help unite America? 67 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I wrote about this in my column in the 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: New York Posts the other day because it's so interesting, 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: as you see that it would need directive from the 70 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: President to correct this. In recent years, and particularly since 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, there's been a massive upsurge of people everywhere 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: flying a whole array of flags. And sure, I mean, 73 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: anyone can fly whatever flag they want, but federal buildings, 74 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: government buildings, that's a different thing. And particularly since twenty twenty, 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: federal buildings, embassies abroad, and much more have not been 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: prioritizing the flag of the United States of America. They 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: very often decided that it's time to fly some other 78 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: interest flag. The BLM flag made quite a few appearances 79 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: a whole range of others, most prominently, of course, so 80 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 1: called Pride flag, which, as I said in my piece, 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: went from being a sort of perfectly okay rainbow design 82 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: some years ago to being, of course, is very ugly 83 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: thing with a triangle and a circle in the middle, 84 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: and also stripes to represent black and other minority people. 85 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: On the weird presumption that if you added a black 86 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: stripe to the Pride flag, you would have black people represented. 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned in the piece, who exactly that 88 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: these people think were represented by the yellow stripe or 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: the bright red stripe or the blue stripe in the 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: original Pride flag. Nobody really knew what any of this 91 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: was about. It all just got this social contagion got going, 92 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: and before you knew it, this flag celebrating, for instance, 93 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: the right of people to not care about sex, which 94 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: was one of the bits that was added, which was 95 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: the asexual bit of the flag. That suddenly became an 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: enormous priority to asexual pride. And American embassies were flying 97 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: this is very ugly a new flag from their buildings, 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: and of course all of that stuff, as you know, 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: and many people viewing though, is just divisive nonsense. I mean, 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, the United States of America, the flag is 101 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: meant to unite people. It's not meant to be that 102 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: a nation has to subvert its national identity to whatever 103 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: or race identities. You know, everyone's meant to come under 104 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the unity of the one flag of the country as 105 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: a great unifying message. And so yeah, there's been a 106 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: lot of radical activists who've come along in recent years 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: who said no, no, no, everyone needs their own flag, 108 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: a special flag for every person, and it's quite right. 109 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: I think that Trump has said no, Actually, you know, 110 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: we swear allegiance to the flag, and it's one flag, 111 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: and nobody's rights for infringes or anything like that. It 112 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: just means the federal buildings and embassies abroad are going 113 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: to be flying the flag of the United States of America, 114 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: which is what it should have been all along. 115 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: Absolutely as a setup, it's extraordinary. 116 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: Took an executive order just to get to that. It's 117 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: such a simple concept when you think about it really. Now, 118 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: in the last week, the ICE Task Force has done 119 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: incredible work across America arresting hundreds of illegal migrants. And 120 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: now Donald Trump has signed the Lake and Riley Act 121 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: into law, requiring law enforcement to detain illegal aliens who 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: bit theft and violent crimes. 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: Have a look signed this in honor of Lake and Riley, 124 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: some of the people that we have been so instrumental. 125 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: Okay Douglas. 126 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is setting the pace for the world on 127 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: how to crack down on migration. You're from the UK, 128 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: where migration is out of control. What can UK labor 129 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: learn from Donald Trump. 130 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: My suspicion is the UK Labour are going to learn 131 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: very little from anyone. It's one of their problems. But yes, 132 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean I wish they would take some notice of 133 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: what is happening in Allied countries for the better and 134 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: for the worse. But you know, what Trump did there 135 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: is very very interesting. The Lincoln Riley Act is named 136 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: after a young American woman who was brutally murdered by 137 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: an illegal migrant to the UK with many previous convictions, 138 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: and even the symbolism of that is very important because 139 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: the people objecting to the forcible deportation of migrants think 140 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: that they're sort of burnishing their liberal credentials. You know, 141 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: there are officials Democrats of course, who in recent days 142 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: have been opposing ice moving in and getting career criminals 143 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: out of the US who shouldn't be there anyway. But 144 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's one thing to sort of pretend that 145 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: it's all just about the rights of the illegal migrant. 146 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: But Trump is reminding people in this actually American citizens 147 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: of all backgrounds have the right to also be thought 148 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: of as well, to be able to live in neighborhoods 149 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: that are as safe as they can be and for 150 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: that to happen, the federal government has to take a 151 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: view about career criminals breaking into America and staying there. 152 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: And that's what he's done. And as I say, it's 153 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: not just about actually racking down on the illegals, it's 154 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: about saying this is not just about them, it's about 155 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: the nation as a whole. It's about the citizenry of 156 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: the nation. So I think the symbolism of that is 157 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: very important. Whether any other developed country learns from that, 158 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: will see. 159 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: Well, what do you make of the left in the 160 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: United States having a meltdown over these deportations. Donald Trump 161 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: has wasted no time yet the left they're crying, they're upset, 162 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: They're saying, no, these people need a home to live. 163 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: What do you make of the response? 164 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think these people really need 165 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: to take a serious look, not just at themselves, but 166 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: in the actual situation. I would have thought that any 167 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a leftist, but there are decent 168 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: arguments of the left on all sorts of policies. Okay, 169 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: but if I was a leftist and I wanted to 170 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: pursue leftist policies and get other people onto my side, 171 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I'd make a priority of saying, please 172 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: don't deport the killers and muggers and robbers and rapists 173 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: who have entered the United States illegally. Please don't come 174 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: after them and take them out of our area. I'd 175 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: have thought that that any leftists, like anyone else, would say, 176 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: any Democrat, like any Republican would say, you know, there 177 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: are undesirable people who've moved into our neighborhood, and we 178 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: don't want them here. And it's astonishing to me that 179 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: there are people on the American left who don't realize 180 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: the strategic mistake they keep on making. They lost the 181 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: election last November in part because they were seen as 182 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: a party to be representing the minorities of the minorities. 183 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: It's one thing to stand up for minority rights. It's 184 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: one thing to it's another thing entirely, rather to put 185 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: minority rights over majority rights, To pretend that, for instance, 186 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, a man who's decided he wants to become 187 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: a woman has more rights or should be more focused 188 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: on and given more of a megaphone than anyone else 189 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: in society, or to think that you should pitch your 190 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: tent on the idea of defending career criminals who've broken 191 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: into your country and committed crimes whilst they're Why would 192 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: a left that wants to get re elected keep tying 193 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: itself to causes like that. They've got to try to 194 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: appeal to the majority. And the majority of people want 195 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: to live in safe neighborhoods and see the laws of 196 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: their land respected, including the immigration laws. So you know, 197 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: it's a recipe for staying out of power. These San 198 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Francisco officials and others who have decided the most important 199 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: right to defend in the United States is the right 200 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: to break into the US and commit crimes and stay there. 201 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 202 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the majority voted for Donald Trump's mandate to 203 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: deport these people. 204 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: So the Left just need to get on with it. Now. 205 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: We mentioned the UK before, but. 206 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: Now out of control immigration means that Britain's population is 207 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: now bigger than France's and new figures showed ten million 208 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: more people due to arrive within a decade. That'll take 209 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: it to seventy two point five million people by twenty 210 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: thirty two. 211 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: Douglas, Look, this is extraordinary. 212 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: Where is the UK going to house all these people? 213 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: Where are the plans? 214 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: There are no plans, they're not going to be able 215 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: to house and the whole thing will break down. I 216 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: can say that with absolute certainty. You know, when migration 217 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: net migration net legal migration was it about three hundred 218 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: thousand a year. Ten years ago in the UK, the 219 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Conservative government, the nominally Conservative government, said that they had 220 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: a house building target of about three hundred thousand houses 221 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: a year because there was a housing short That's brilliant, 222 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: and of course you don't have to be a maths 223 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: genius to know that even if they did make that 224 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: target of house building, which they never made, all that 225 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: would happen would be that you'd keep on concreting over 226 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: the countryside in order to put up houses for people 227 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: from the rest of the world. Now, they failed that 228 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: every one of the targets they had when migration was 229 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: in the realm of about three hundred thousand, and when 230 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: you had net migration recently almost a million are year 231 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: into the UK, they're just are no houses. And it 232 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: seems to me, as far as I can see that, 233 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: to the extent that there's any long term plan of 234 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: the political class in the UK, it's that migration should continue, 235 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: legal and illegal migration should continue. At historic heighs for 236 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: as long as possible, and that the great future that 237 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: Britain can look forward to is all of our green 238 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: places being concreted over for very shabby, shoddy, ill built 239 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: houses to be thrown up, and then we can all 240 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: remind ourselves how proud we are to be British. It's 241 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: not my dream for the future of my country of birth. 242 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a dream of many British people either. Obviously, 243 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: you know the people will have to speak at some 244 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: point through the ballot box. But the problem in Britain 245 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: is that every time they speak, they're elected representatives ignore them. 246 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: So it's enough to make one feel pretty pessimistic about 247 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: the future of the country. 248 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: I have to say, yeah, which is such a shame, 249 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: but those figures are out of control. Now, before we 250 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: let you go, Douglas, you have a new book coming 251 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: out soon on democracies and death Cults, releasing April. 252 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: Aid tell us about it. 253 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it's going to be out on April the eighth, 254 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: available in the US, UK, Australia everywhere. If you can 255 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: find a bookshop these days, you can get it in 256 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: a bookshop. But if you can't, of course you can 257 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: order it online through all the usual routes. It's really 258 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: the result of a lot of reporting and reflecting I've 259 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: been able to do in recent years, particularly from reporting 260 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: from the front lines of the conflicts in the Middle East, 261 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: but also really focusing on what I regard as being 262 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: that crucial question, which is what has gone wrong in 263 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: countries like Australia, Britain and America Europe where we see 264 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: particularly a younger generation coming up who seem not to 265 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: be able to tell the difference between what I call 266 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: democracies and deaf cults, between civilized, liberal minded societies like 267 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: ours and deaf cults who literally want us dead. Why 268 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: has there been such an inability to realize that difference? 269 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: And why has there been not one anti Hamaz protest 270 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: of any size on the streets of Melbourne or Sydney. 271 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: But every week, every week you can find the anti 272 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: Israel out on the street, screaming about a conflict and 273 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: a far off continent about which they know nothing. I 274 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: think there's a lot that this tells us about Israel, 275 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: but there's an awful lot it tells us about the 276 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: rest of us too, So I hope everyone will pre order. 277 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: It absolutely on democracies and death cults. Releasing April eight, 278 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: Not to be missed. Douglas Murray, always wonderful to speak 279 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: with you. Thank you so much for joining me on 280 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: the show this evening. 281 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Great to see you again. 282 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Still to come. 283 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: An extra large edition of Lefties Losing It, plus Armie 284 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: Horowitz joins us to break down Trump's cracked down on 285 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: government waste. Now it's time for Lefties Losing it And gee, 286 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: the pronoun pappas are getting even more complex and confusing. 287 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: Let's ask this lefty how they identify. 288 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever had a siss person ask you what 289 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: your pronouns are? 290 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 5: And you're like, I'd rather you just called be a 291 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: slow instead of asking me what my pronouns are. Right now, 292 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 5: there's this thing that people who are in trans do 293 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: where they will have no idea how to refer to 294 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 5: you because of the way that you look, because based 295 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 5: on the way that I look and the way that 296 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 5: I sound, Like the tone of my voice, like how 297 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 5: high it is, sound very high. I have kind of 298 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 5: a lowish voice, a pretty androgynous voice, and I dress 299 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 5: very androgynously and like I. 300 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: Just don't exactly exude. 301 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 5: Male or female to any reliable extent. 302 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well if you say so, but quite the essay 303 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: of an explanation there. 304 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: And I mean, it's just so funny. 305 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: These people get mad when you call them the wrong thing, 306 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: and then they get mad when you say the wrong 307 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: thing that I certainly cap us on. 308 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 6: How tars, If you change your name and gender marker 309 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 6: on your ID, you're also getting a new birth certificate. 310 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 6: And in my new birth certificate it says my new 311 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 6: name and assund gender at birth female. 312 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: No. 313 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 6: I don't know why they read my entire identity, but I. 314 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: Guess I'm sis. 315 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: Now ho is you sis? 316 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 6: If anyone ever comes and calls me a man, I'm 317 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: safe because I have state government approof paperwork that I'm fish. 318 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 7: And the lung taclas stuff it's on the look and lunech. 319 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: The love and respect for women or fish is palpable. 320 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: But perhaps this therapist with a very appropriate name can help. 321 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 8: Hi. 322 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 9: My name is Karen and my pronounces are they them, 323 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 9: And I'm a license psychotherapist in the states of Colorado 324 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 9: and Washington. And something that I have been processing a 325 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 9: lot lately is what it has felt like in the 326 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 9: last week or so to be a non binary person. 327 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 9: I've been thinking a lot about the impacts of the 328 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 9: executive order that is, you know, attempting to say there's 329 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 9: only two sexes and really just actually feels like it 330 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 9: was written by people who haven't passed up with the 331 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 9: great science. 332 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually the science says otherwise, Karen. The science has 333 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: never changed. There are only two genders. So maybe Karen 334 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: needs us seventh grader to tell her that. Now a warning. 335 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: This next character is suffering with a serious, chronic, and 336 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: quite frankly huge case of Trump arrangement syndrome. 337 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 10: I told you, I've told you. I've told you, I 338 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 10: told you, told you, told you. 339 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: Hold you out now, I don't say I didn't warn you. 340 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: Where did this back crazy wilding come from? And don't worry, 341 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: there's more some. 342 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 10: Of you, Magafi, better pay attention and you better listen, 343 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 10: because this is exactly what the you voted for. 344 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 11: And when you're saying, oh, but he said he wouldn't 345 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 11: do that, he said he wasn't gonna do that, he 346 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 11: doesn't notice he knows exactly what it is. 347 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: Actually it's his. 348 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 10: Handlers who know exactly what is, because this dumb can't read. 349 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: For sh wow, okay, and why are the meltdowns always 350 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: in cars? Now to the cackling which her said, Joy 351 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: b Ha from the view, whose jealousy is something to behold. 352 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: Here is her assessment of Trump's new White House Press secretary, 353 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: Caroline Leavitt. 354 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 12: I think she's probably been put in there because according 355 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 12: to Donald Trump, she's a ten. 356 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: You know that is I. 357 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 13: Want to be clear, though it's not her first job, 358 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 13: it was her first press briefing. 359 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: She worked on the previous. 360 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: Weapons, the ever empowering feminist joy herself everyone. And this 361 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: is why, of course she's on the view and not 362 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: working for the most powerful man in the world. Because 363 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: Caroline would wipe the floor with you, bitter banshees any day. 364 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: Now to the chief loon herself, come on, it wouldn't 365 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: be a left He's losing it without MSNB sees joy 366 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: read and the fear this woman must have. Here she 367 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: is comparing Donald Trump's administration to that of Adolf Hitler. 368 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 12: Again, similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening 369 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 12: now in America are just undeniable. History may not repeat 370 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 12: beat him, but it sure does. 371 00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: Rhyme. 372 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Gosh, it must be such a drain on poor Joy 373 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: every day, flying the fake flag, saying the same lines 374 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: over and over. It's like she must remain outraged at 375 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: all time. Who could be next on her hit list? 376 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 12: Government went so far as to tell federal agents and 377 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 12: Immigration reads to be camera ready and write none other 378 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 12: than TV Holls doctor Phil along for the ride, which 379 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 12: is interesting given both the Rise and MAGA immigration influencers 380 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 12: they're seemingly endorsing, and the fact that doctor Phil has 381 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 12: made a career out of exploiting vulnerable people for money. 382 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: No, not doctor Phil. He's even got the Chief Loon 383 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: after him. 384 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 12: Anyone else, Governor who's confirmed as a Department Homeland Security 385 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 12: I and it says she's costplaying. It's almost a game 386 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 12: where she seems to be cost playing because I'm not 387 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 12: sure what she thinks that she's portraying here. She might 388 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 12: as well be at Camakin. 389 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: No, come on, not the Homeland Secretary. Now, whatever will 390 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: they do with Joy's mark of disapproval? 391 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. 392 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: I'll hand it over to Tom Homan for his assessment 393 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: of Joy Reads. 394 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 11: James and Joy say, you're reckless and you're. 395 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: Just role playing for fun. 396 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 9: She's back for rocks. 397 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: He never misses, does he. 398 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: Now's the deportations of the legals which have left lefties 399 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: in our full panic. 400 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 14: And I hope that just how Donald Trump is not 401 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 14: allowing all of these different people here in America. I 402 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 14: hold that the presidents of those other countries stop banning 403 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 14: Americans from coming to their country to see how y'all 404 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 14: like you, because y'all real quick to be in the 405 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 14: comments talking about, oh, I'll send them back, send them back, 406 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 14: and baby, you want to be vacationing in their beautiful 407 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 14: islands and their beautiful waters though eating their food. 408 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: Well, baby, there is actually quite a big difference between 409 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: being on vacation and staying illegally in a country. 410 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: It's really really that simple. Gosh. 411 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: The EPA fascinating left is that they love to over complicate, 412 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: don't they? And I wonder how ice officials will go 413 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: up against this one. 414 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 15: This is in New York. We're having a meeting about 415 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 15: to do if I shows up to the school they 416 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 15: are in New York, it is not safe, as far 417 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 15: as I know. Our policy is to call the superintendent 418 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 15: that the principal said we might open the doors, So 419 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 15: it looks like I'll be getting arrested. 420 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Yes you are, honey, And let's ask this next teacher 421 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: what she would do. 422 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 16: This is my impression of if an ICE officer comes 423 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 16: and talks to me while I'm at school and asks 424 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 16: me to give up the immigration status of some of 425 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 16: my students. Hey, I'm a piece of ICE officer. Do 426 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 16: you know the immigration status of these students? 427 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I dare you to do exactly that. 428 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: And look, things does keep going from bad to worse 429 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: for these unhinged white liberal women. 430 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 17: I have a question. Is it a crime for me 431 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 17: to report myself to ICE or just waste their time? 432 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 17: Or is it a crime to apply for Target and 433 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 17: all these other companies that got rid of DEI and 434 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 17: just waste their time, like schedule interviews that don't show up, 435 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 17: schedule another interview, don't show up, just thinking about being 436 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 17: a nuisance. So I have ruined some managers' days, ruin 437 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 17: some ICE agents days. I got nothing but time, always 438 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 17: everyone's time. 439 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 12: I'm into it. 440 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: It's a hobby. 441 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: Anyone want to tell her about obstruction of justice? To 442 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: anyone and pay us say if anyone is actually looking 443 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: for a sanctuary, the governor of Oregon has your back. 444 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 18: Hi, Orgon Governor kotech here, I will not back down 445 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 18: from a fight, whether it's access to reproductive and gender 446 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 18: affirming healthcare, staying on our path to reach our climate goals, 447 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 18: protecting immigrant communities, upholding our civil liberties, and fighting for 448 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 18: prosperity for every Oregonian. I will stand firm for all 449 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 18: of us to our immigrant friends and neighbors. As your governor, 450 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 18: I see you, I stand with you, and I've got 451 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 18: your back. 452 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: It sounds like the works place in America. Legals welcome please. 453 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you like international cuisines, if 454 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: you're a food aficionado and you vote for Donald Trump, 455 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: we'll look out because this next left is coming for you. 456 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 15: If you're pro Trump, i'd better and I see you 457 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 15: in an international section. 458 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: M y'all, don't get to read the benefits of people 459 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: you're kicking out of the company. 460 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 13: Ah. 461 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: The ever tolerance left fascinating top notch people living in 462 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: the fantasy world, including this one. 463 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 19: Just to make sure we're all on the same page here, 464 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 19: the Colombian president didn't decide to accept those migrants because 465 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 19: of the Trump Admin's TAPO ridden threats of tariffs and sanctions. 466 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 19: He accepted them, because the alternative threat is those miagrants 467 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 19: being condemned to a lifetime of slavery and imprisonment in 468 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 19: the modern American concentration camps. 469 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: That's where we're at. 470 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: That's why, yes, that must be, must be right, must 471 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: be where America is at. You keep telling yourself that, 472 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: and gosh, America must really be regretting its election choice. 473 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 7: Ooh, you hear the people sing singing the song of 474 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 7: angry men. It is the music of a people who 475 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 7: will not be slaves again? 476 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: Did she sing? Natza? Cute cute chart top up for sure? 477 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: Now just to pay USA to all American businesses staying woke, 478 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: These lefties will support you to the death. 479 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 20: What's popping pizza? So, boy, Rich, I'm in Kroger shopping, 480 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 20: which is unusual, but I'm starting I will start shopping 481 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 20: in Kroger since Walmart ended its DEI program. So since 482 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 20: they ended their DEI program, they won't get my black 483 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 20: creole dollars. 484 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 11: So yeah, out running some errands, of course, I ended 485 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 11: up at Costco. 486 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: Of course I'm. 487 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 11: Enjoying a slice of Costco pizza and I have one 488 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 11: more stop to make, and in that stuff, I'll be 489 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 11: picking up some bit and Jerry's why because on this 490 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 11: page we support the companies that are fighting back and 491 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 11: are keeping diversity and inclusivity initiatives. 492 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: There's nothing like the wholesome liberal support. Is there? 493 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: Joining me now is journalist and filmmaker Army Horowitz. 494 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: Army, nice to see you. Thank you for joining me. 495 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: Let's start with Donald Trump's crackdown on government waste, and 496 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: you won't believe what millions of dollars is being spent on. 497 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: Have a listen to this. 498 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: We identified and stopped fifty million dollars being sent to 499 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: Gaza to buy condoms for aromas. We stopped an attempt 500 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 4: to make an illicit payment for illegal alien resettlement. We 501 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: canceled one hundred and eighty one million dollars in DEA 502 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: training contracts. This is just for the training. We paused 503 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: one point seven billion dollars in unauthorised payments to foreign organizations, 504 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 4: including stopping more than forty million dollars that was on 505 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 4: its way out the door to the very corrupt World 506 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: Health Organization. We also blocked forty five million dollars for 507 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 4: diversity scholarships in Burma. 508 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: Army, as we just heard amidst other things, fifty million 509 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: dollars worth of condoms to Gaza. It just makes you 510 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: wonder what on earth the Biden administration was doing for 511 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: all those years. 512 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: Oh no, we don't have to wonder. 513 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 21: I can tell you. 514 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 4: I don't know. 515 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: They spent a. 516 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 21: Quarter of a billion dollars on a Gaza pier that 517 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 21: gave one day worth of food to the Gazans that 518 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 21: was washed away. Who could have thought that I did? Okay, 519 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 21: everyone thought it was a stupid idea. 520 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. 521 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 21: How about the funding of UNDRA here we established after 522 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 21: Trump stopped it, which has become a partner for Hamas 523 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 21: to kill more Jews in Israel. 524 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: Oh I don't know. How about USAID where. 525 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 21: Ninety percent the employees voted for Kamala Harris. Or how 526 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 21: about the funding of the WHO, which partnered with China 527 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 21: and hiding COVID. There's just a couple of examples of 528 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 21: what we're spending on talking about. Look, let's be clear, 529 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 21: we're talking about a certain portion of spending. I don't 530 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 21: explain to me what the problem is to freeze for 531 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 21: ninety days spending to make sure it's aligned with US 532 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 21: interests A and B, not wasteful tell me where the 533 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 21: problem is there. This is what we call discretionary spending, 534 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 21: not non discretionary spending. Non discrisory spending are things like Medicaid, 535 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 21: social Security, things like the interest payment. 536 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: These are things that can't be cut. 537 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 21: Now, the media will make you believe he was trying 538 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 21: to we legally freeze all government payments. 539 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 17: Right. 540 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 21: There's a thing called the malicious compliance, right, and what 541 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 21: that essentially means is is that there are aid worker 542 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 21: people were working at the low level. For example, when 543 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 21: when they say we're no longer going to have DEI 544 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 21: in the US military, somebody a staffer working at the 545 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 21: Defense Department who is maliciously, maliciously compliant, trying to embarrass 546 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 21: the Trump administration. We're going to stop talking about the 547 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 21: Duskegee Airmen, right, these heroic black US airmen who fought 548 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 21: to the US Air Force. Obviously that was untrue, but 549 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 21: he said that to try to embarrass the administration. Likewise, 550 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 21: so when they were talking about the payments, we just 551 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 21: spoke about not the non discretionary spending. 552 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Right. 553 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 21: What they did was some staffer froze the a froze 554 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 21: the website for logging in and signing up for new 555 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 21: Medicaid patients. Obviously that was not the intent, but they 556 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 21: did that to embarrassed the administration. Okay, but ultimately you 557 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 21: have to tell me where the problem is. I don't 558 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 21: get it. Look, I am not a fan of executive orders, 559 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 21: which this president has been using liberally, but so is 560 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 21: every president before him, because there's no choice. That's the 561 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 21: game we have now. But if you're telling me that 562 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 21: we're going to have larger executive power to cut the government, 563 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 21: I'm here for that. 564 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. 565 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, look fair enough. 566 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: I just hearing some of the stuff that Donald Trump 567 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: was rattling off there. I just thought, personally it was 568 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: extraordinary that spending. Now, look, we've got to talk about 569 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: msnbase once again becoming increasingly desperate. I shoed some of 570 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: these and lefties losing it, but it's worth showing again 571 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: here a house to call Wallace and Joy raid comparing 572 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: Trump's immigration holicies to the Holocaust and Hitler's Germany. 573 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 8: They're going to have to own the idea that they 574 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 8: have created a generation of kids who they have been 575 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 8: born here, but who are afraid to go to school, 576 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 8: families that are in hiding on this harrowing anniversary of 577 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 8: Holocaust anniversary does have a really eerie echo to something 578 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 8: that I think people thought, how could that happen? And 579 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 8: that could never happen again. 580 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 12: Defeating the Jews of Europe, who they viewed as subhuman 581 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 12: was a question of good conquering evil, which conditioned millions 582 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 12: of Germans to celebrate Hitler and turn a blind eye 583 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 12: to his brutality. That sounds vaguely familiar. That's because it 584 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 12: is similar. Similarities to what happened in Germany and what's 585 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 12: happening now in America are just undeniable. 586 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: I mean, how have these people not being fired yet 587 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 2: to minimize the Holocaust in favor of their hate for Trump? 588 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: Surely that's a new low. 589 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 21: I mean, you want to know why the leg see 590 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 21: media in the US is dying out as example number one, 591 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 21: I mean, the fear poor they've been peddling is disgusting. 592 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 21: Particularly disgusting is Joy Reid talking about the Holocaust. I 593 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 21: want to give you some of her hits when it 594 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 21: comes to Jews in Israel. Joy Reid is a woman 595 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 21: that said Israel to blame for October seventh. Their policies 596 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 21: is what led to October seventh. Joy Reid is a 597 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 21: person who said that Wolf Blitzer and CNN was being 598 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 21: too soft on Jews. Joy Reid is a woman who 599 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 21: questioned legitimacy of the state of Israel. Really, Joy Reid, 600 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 21: I don't think so. 601 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: Don't do it as a Jew. 602 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 21: Okay, don't peddle the Holocaust to give yourself cover on 603 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 21: policies that you don't like. It's disgusting. And by the way, 604 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 21: I'm not exactly sure where when you talking about Obama. 605 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 21: Also at this point, Obama deported more people than any 606 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 21: president in the history of the United States. 607 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: Okay, leave me alone. Enough of this is it's gross, 608 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: it is griss. I completely grace. 609 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: She's unhinged, she's lost the plot, and I just am 610 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: shocked that she is still on air now. Donald Trump 611 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: says he will be signing an executive order to send 612 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: the worst of the United States illegals to Guantanamo Bay 613 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: in a thirty thousand bed facility. 614 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: This is what he says today. 615 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: I'm also signing an executive order to instruct the Departments 616 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: of Defense and Homeland Security to begin preparing the thirty 617 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: thousand person migrant facility at Guantanamo beab to detain the 618 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people. Some of 619 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: them are so bad we don't even trust the countries 620 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: to hold them because we don't want them coming back. 621 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: I mean, is this fair enough of me? 622 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: Particularly given some of these illegals are murderers and rapists. 623 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 21: Absolutely love it. In fact, I think we should charge 624 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 21: their country of origin for the cost of keeping them 625 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 21: Ontanamo Bay. Okay, no, again, explain the problem here for 626 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 21: this thing. Okay, we're going to be deporting the worst, 627 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 21: the worst. We can't obviously trust the country that they 628 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 21: came from because the country they came from didn't want 629 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 21: to take them back. Look at Columbia, we had to 630 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 21: actually twist their arm with tariffs in order to take 631 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 21: them back. So yeah, I'm down with it. Look, this 632 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 21: is the people that Selena Gomez is. 633 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: Crying over right. 634 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 21: By the way, we know that was real because that 635 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 21: wooden actress can't emote on camera onque so we know 636 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 21: they's doing it for real. And by the way, also 637 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 21: the Cuban president said this was inhuman, intolerable, barbaric behavior. 638 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: Hmm. 639 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 21: How do you say irony in Spanish? 640 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? Really, really good point. 641 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: The irony in that coming from Cuba is astonishing. But no, look, 642 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: you're right good batage them over to Guantanamo Bay because 643 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 2: that is certainly where they belong. Now, it didn't take 644 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: long for the confirmation hearing of Robert F. Kennedy Junior, 645 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's nominee for Secretary of the Department of Health 646 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: and Human Services to absolutely descend into chaos because Senate Democrats, 647 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: true to form, went on unhinged rants. But I've got 648 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: to say this one takes the cake. Here is Bernie 649 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: Sanders talking about onesies. 650 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: They are telling what's called onesies. These are little things 651 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: clothing for babies. One of them is. 652 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 22: Diled on facts on a free You're coming before this 653 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 22: committee and you say you're pro vaccine, just want to 654 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 22: ask some questions, and yet your organization is making money. 655 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 22: Can you tell us now that you will, now that 656 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 22: you are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your 657 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 22: organization take these products off the market? 658 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 13: Senator, I have no power over that organization. 659 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 1: I'm not you've heard of it. I resigned from the board. 660 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 22: Are you supportive of this? 661 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: I have had nothing to do with you. Supportive of 662 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: these onesies? I'm supportive of vaccines. 663 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: Are you supportive of these this clothing And just look 664 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: at the face of Megan Kelly, a good friend of 665 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 2: this network. 666 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: It tells you all you need to know. 667 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 13: I have had nothing to do with you supportive of 668 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 13: these onesies. 669 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm supportive of vaccines. 670 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 22: Are you supportive of these this clothing which is militantly 671 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 22: anti vaccine? 672 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean ami onesies? Are these Democrats serious? 673 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 21: I mean, look, the most outrageous part of that is 674 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 21: they're charging twenty six dollars for those things. Look, let's 675 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 21: be clear, Okay, I'm I'm not to be honest. I'm 676 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 21: not the biggest fan of Robert Kennedy. I don't think 677 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 21: he was the right choice to this job. I think 678 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 21: he has made particularly questionable statements in the past and 679 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 21: taking questionable positions in the past across the board. By 680 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 21: the way, hard right, hard. 681 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: Left, he's you. 682 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 21: He seems to have you turned on most of these 683 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 21: things in order to get this this this nomination. Look, 684 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 21: I'm all for rigorous questioning of Robert Kennedy. I think 685 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 21: that's legitimate. I think that we have moved from uh, 686 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 21: honest questions into stupid behavior and grand standing on the 687 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 21: side of Democrats. That's really nothing new, to be honest, 688 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 21: both sides. But look, I don't I think there this 689 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 21: is the role of the Senate to ask tough questions 690 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 21: of a guy who's made very questionable claims in the past. 691 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 21: I'm okay with that. But when we start putting up, 692 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 21: you know, grandstanding with the Onesies, I think we've gone 693 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 21: little too much. I think me and Kelly had a 694 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 21: right there with her with her facial expression. 695 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah she did. 696 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it just descended into a farst as soon 697 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: as they brought up the Onesie photos, and then you 698 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: just can't take it seriously anymore. 699 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 3: That's the problem with these hearings. 700 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: Now, Army security agents have escorted the Inspector General of 701 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: the US Department of Agriculture out of her office after 702 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 2: she refused to comply with her firing by the Trump administration. 703 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: Phyllis Fong reportedly told colleagues that she intended to stay 704 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: after the White House terminated her, saying that she didn't 705 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: believe the administration had followed proper protocols. Armie, you know, look, 706 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: these lefties, they can try as hard as they can, 707 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: but why bother going up against Trump orders? 708 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 7: Yeah? 709 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 21: First of all, hey, ig, it's not your place to 710 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 21: interpret the protocols and the legality of your firing right. 711 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 21: And that's the problem I think we have the age 712 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 21: in general, I think they were a a there are. 713 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 21: They had a world of themselves. They felt they were 714 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 21: disconnected from the law. They could do it whatever they wanted. 715 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 21: And that was the problem that Trump had from the beginning. Look, 716 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 21: there was a twenty twenty two law that was passed 717 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 21: that we've been talking about, a law that strengthened the 718 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 21: role of the I G. And how they're, how they're 719 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 21: let go, how they're how they're they're they're rehired. And 720 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 21: the truth is that he probably has not run a 721 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 21: foul of this twenty twenty two law because most of 722 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,959 Speaker 21: it was probably actually unconstitutional, that it is actually within 723 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 21: the power of the president to fire these igs. I 724 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 21: think the reason to have a problem is he is 725 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 21: and the and the where the twenty two tway law well, 726 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 21: I think will stand any legal and Supreme Court scrutiny. 727 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 21: Is that you really have to have independency when it 728 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 21: comes to who the the spectrum generals are the federal 729 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 21: respector generals. And I think that he won't be able 730 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 21: to put in any Lackey that he wants that is 731 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 21: going to have to go through rigorous approval. 732 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 3: I think that's great. 733 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 21: I think that's but his ability to fire the inspector 734 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 21: generals is in his purview completely legal. And I think 735 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 21: that we have all the media goes back to the 736 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 21: media talking about how this goes against the law. Simply untrue. 737 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: No, I agree. 738 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: Now, Look, Meta has agreed to pay twenty five million 739 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 2: dollars to settle a lawsuit filed by Donald Trump against 740 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 2: the company after it suspended his accounts following that January 741 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: six attack on the Capitol. It's the latest instance of 742 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: large corporations settling litigation with the president. 743 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Meta has come around to Trump. 744 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: We know it's CEO Mark Zuckerberg met him, he was 745 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 2: at the inauguration. I wonder if he regrets suspending his 746 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 2: account Now, Oh, oh my god. 747 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 21: I love this so much. I love seeing these technological 748 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 21: leftist titans bending the knee and kissing the ring of 749 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 21: Donald Trump because they know that for the next four 750 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 21: years they are going to be scrutinized. They're trying to 751 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 21: get ahead of it. Is so delicious to see. Look, 752 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 21: ABC had a set of lawsuit also when they called 753 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 21: him a rapist and they settle that money was going 754 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 21: to his presidential library. I think it's great. I think 755 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 21: it's ironic. I think it's phenomenal. Yeah, you're seeing all 756 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 21: of these tech titans who were very supportive of Biden 757 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 21: and Kamala and the left now turn around and say, 758 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 21: I think we've got it wrong. I think we better 759 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 21: settle our accounts now to make sure we're good with 760 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 21: President Trump. 761 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: It's great. 762 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 21: I love it. 763 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 3: I love it too. 764 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: You're right, they're all bending down to kiss the ring 765 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: now after years of talking up against Trump says spending 766 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 2: his accounts, and now look suddenly, if you're not in 767 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: the Trump crowd, it's better to be in than now. 768 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 2: That's how I look at it now. Ami, We've got 769 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: to say, we have been loving your posts on X 770 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: because for. 771 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 3: Ten days, every day, as we can see here. 772 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: You've been posting the Trump presidency and democracy has not 773 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: ended every single day. 774 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: Well, Armie, firstly, who would have thought? And secondly, how 775 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: long do you reckon you're going to keep going with that? Oh? 776 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 21: Nothing gets by you guys at Sky News Australia, listen, 777 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 21: I'm gonna commit to the bit kind of guy. I'm 778 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 21: gonna be doing it for all four years of this presidency. 779 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 21: I am so stick and tired of everyone telling me 780 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 21: democracy has ended. 781 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for it. I will stop the tweets. 782 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 21: No, I promise you now, I will start the tweets 783 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 21: when democracy in the US has ended. 784 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: How's that. 785 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: All right? Well, we're gonna hold you to that, and 786 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 3: we expect to see every single day, Army, for the 787 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 3: next four years. 788 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna be looking at your tweets to make sure 789 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 2: that you haven't stopped tweeting that. 790 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 3: Army Horowitz, It's always nice to chat to you. 791 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me on the show 792 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: this evening. 793 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 21: The pleasure is mine. 794 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: Still to come, Prince Harry's secret visa records could soon 795 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: be made public. Kinsey Schofield joins us next with the details. 796 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program. 797 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: Well singer Rihanna has appeared for the first time at 798 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: the trial of her long term partner and father of 799 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 2: her children, Asap Rocky Now. Rocky has been standing trial 800 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: on two felony charges that he fired a handgun at 801 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: a former friend. Joining me now is celebrity and royal 802 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, thank you for joining us. Firstly, 803 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: tell us about the case and why did Rihanna attend 804 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: on this particular day. 805 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: That's right. 806 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 13: If convicted asap, Rocky is looking it up to twenty 807 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 13: four years in state prison. This comes after he turned 808 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 13: down a plea deal that would have had him plead 809 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 13: guilty to one charge with a recommended one hundred and 810 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 13: eighty days in jail and three years probation. Rihanna made 811 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 13: her courtroom debut on the day of its most important 812 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 13: testimony from the alleged victim. She discreetly bypassed the media 813 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 13: frenzy outside the courthouse, arriving under the radar. Inside the courtroom, 814 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 13: She's sat in the front row of the gallery, position 815 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 13: between Rocky's mother and sister, her presence clearly catching the 816 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 13: attention of the jurors. 817 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised that they'd caught her attention, 818 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, I think that'll be very interesting to see 819 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: how this one plays out. Now, we have to talk 820 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: to that about that sobbing video that Selena Gomes put 821 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: out the other day. 822 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 3: Of course, when she was crying. 823 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 2: There she is there over Trump deporting illegal immigrants. Now 824 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 2: Selena Gomes deleted that particular video soon after very quickly. 825 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: But Kinsey, we now know the real reason why she 826 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: was very quick to get rid of it. 827 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 3: What more can you tell us? 828 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 17: Yeah? 829 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 13: Well, according to The Daily Mail, a source told them 830 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 13: that she was worried about showing weakness, but primarily feared 831 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 13: it could alienate Republican fans of her beauty brand. Selena's 832 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 13: Rare Beauty is one of the top selling celebrity beauty 833 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 13: brands currently on the market. And if you want to 834 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 13: be a public figure and you want to you know, 835 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 13: you want to be a female entrepreneur, an entrepreneur, whatever. 836 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 13: These are the types of things you have to keep 837 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 13: in mind when it comes to your brand, because there 838 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 13: is a huge possibility that you will alienate in anger 839 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 13: certain members of your. 840 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 2: Base, absolutely, particularly given that the majority of people voted 841 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump in America on a mandate. 842 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: To deport illegals. So you have to be very careful. 843 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: I just think, butt out of politics and stick to 844 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: your day job. 845 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: That's how I look at it, Kinsey. 846 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: Now, rapper Cardi B has raised some eyebrows after debuting 847 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: her new butt crack piercing on social media. 848 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: Good graef Kinsey. 849 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start with this, but 850 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: it's prompted urgent health warnings. 851 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 13: I feel like there was a good segue there that 852 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 13: you missed. But out of politics, speaking of butts, that's 853 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 13: why about Cardi B. You know might not shock you 854 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 13: to discover that a rear end piercing has a high 855 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 13: risk of an So, yes, people are speaking out about this. 856 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 13: This is due to the Jewelry's close proximity to you 857 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 13: know where, as well as its lengthy healing process. But 858 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 13: you know what, now, at least we know what the 859 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 13: bee stands for in Cody B. So everything makes sense again. 860 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: Everything finally makes sense. Yeah, when I read that story, 861 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: I thought, good grief, where are we going to in 862 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: the world. I'm not approved, but jee, I think that 863 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 2: that would have really hurt. 864 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about. 865 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: Vogue, because it is called Milania Trump, a freelance magician. 866 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: In quite a scathing fashion op ed, writer Hannah Jackson 867 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 2: ridiculed the First Lady's outfit choice and appearance in this portrait. 868 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 2: Of course, this was her official White House portrait. The 869 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: article went on to say Trump looked more like she 870 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: was guest starring on an episode of The Apprentice than 871 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 2: assuming the role of the first. 872 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 3: Lady of the United States. 873 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: This really bothers me, Kinsey, because you know, Vogue has 874 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: always claimed it's a champion of women, loves women, and 875 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: wants to pump women up. So hardly surprising. They did, 876 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: after all, put Kabla Harris on their cover during the 877 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: election campaign. But what do you make of this scathing 878 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: op ed. 879 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 13: You're a girl, I'm a girl. 880 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 3: This seems very caddy. 881 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 13: It seems very envy driven and bitter. I've seen Hannah's 882 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 13: face it could stop a freight train. And every time 883 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 13: I see Anna Winters, she's giving first day of jury 884 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 13: duty energy. She's not a very happy person. Vogue used 885 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 13: to set trends, but in recent years it seems they're 886 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 13: more reactive than proactive. Younger generations favorite platforms that provide free, 887 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 13: easy digestible content. I mean the paywall. They're not attracted 888 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 13: to the paywall, and just how it's become so political 889 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 13: and commercialized in celebrity driven versus style and fashion. Their 890 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 13: only hope at relevancy is a Catherine, Princess of Wales cover. 891 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 13: But I would not blame her if she told them 892 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 13: no thank you. 893 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 3: I completely agree. 894 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: I think that this is real, bottom of the barrel 895 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 2: gutter type of commentary. I just think it was appalling, 896 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 2: and for what it's worth, I think Milania Trump looked 897 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: absolutely fabulous in that portrait as well. Now let's talk 898 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 2: about Prince Harry, because a lawsuit to make his secret 899 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 2: visa records public is said to have its first court 900 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: hearing since Donald Trump's inauguration. The Heritage Foundation has reopened 901 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: its case to have the papers released. Kinsey tell us 902 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 2: about this because I understand that this is. 903 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 3: In relation to Harry's past drug use. 904 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 13: Absolutely so, the Heritage Foundation sued the Department of Homeland 905 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 13: Security to force the release of Prince Harry's visa records. 906 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 13: Did he admit to drug use or was he given 907 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 13: special treatment? A judge sided with DHS and reassumed that 908 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 13: was the end of it. But thanks to new court documents, 909 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 13: we know that the Biden administration privately submitted secret documents 910 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 13: to the judge before he made the decision in their favor. 911 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 13: And now the Heritage Foundation is demanding that judgment be vacated, 912 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 13: and not only for Harry's visa case to be re examined, 913 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 13: but the Heritage Foundation has submitted an application to unseal 914 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 13: the private correspondence between Biden's DHS and the judge. So 915 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 13: lawyers for the Heritage Foundation and the Department of Homeland 916 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 13: Security have been ordered by the judge to meet at 917 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 13: a federal courthouse in DC next Wednesday. 918 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 3: I know you've got your popcorn ready. 919 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: Oh, we've got our popcorn ready and cannot wait for this. 920 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: Gosh, he maybe deported. That would be hilarious. 921 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 2: Now before we let you go, Kinsey, the ex wife 922 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: of actor Kevin Costner, is engaged to one of Costner's 923 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 2: former friends. 924 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 3: Isn't this wild? 925 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 13: Kevin Costner's ex Christine is engaged to her boyfriend of 926 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 13: over a year, Josh Connor, who happened to be a 927 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 13: friend of the former couple around their nasty divorce battle 928 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 13: in twenty twenty three, rumors circulated that Costner suspected that 929 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 13: Christine potentially cheated on him with Josh. So make of 930 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 13: this new engagement what you will. That's where I'll leave it. 931 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: Wow, drama, drama, drama as always never dull moment in 932 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 2: the entertainment world. Kinsey Schofield, You're always across it. Thank 933 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 2: you so much. For joining us on the show this evening. 934 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 2: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight, good night 935 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 2: ye