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Speaker 2: And if I don't want that, I'm going to do that.

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Speaker 2: Why do I have that milk in my drink? Hi, guys,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to Hearing Me Out. I'm your host, Busy

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Speaker 2: Armatae and today we have a very special guest, a

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Speaker 2: really good friend of mine. Introduce yourself, girl.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Logan. I was on the recent season of

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Speaker 1: Australian Survivor and one of.

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Speaker 2: Izzy's busties and girls.

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Speaker 1: We girl boss so hard, so glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on the biblem.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited, so fun when you I have a friend,

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Speaker 2: because it's like the conversation flows so much more actually,

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Speaker 2: and it's so exciting. But there's so many little I have.

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Speaker 2: I'm like a bit of a reality TV junkie and

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Speaker 2: I love hearing the behind the scenes of reality TV.

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Speaker 2: And I've never heard about Survivor, so where can it

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Speaker 2: get into it at all? Let's dig in, babes, but

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Speaker 2: first give me a hear me out.

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Speaker 1: Hear me out? Okay, hang on, We've got a list

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Speaker 1: going good.

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Speaker 2: I like to run.

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Speaker 1: What are we starting with? All right, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: start with one that I think it is and I

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Speaker 1: will agree on hear me out. It's a big tick

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Speaker 1: to cosmetic surgery. Cosmetic surgery is self affirming care. I'm

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Speaker 1: standing on business with that. I don't care if you

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Speaker 1: get whatever done, as long as it makes.

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Speaker 2: You happy and you're doing it for yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it for yourself, You're not doing it for

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Speaker 1: anyone else. Don't comment on other people's surgery, don't care

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Speaker 1: about it, leave it alone if that makes that person

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Speaker 1: really happy. I got a nose.

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Speaker 2: Job, have a fake nose, and they look.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic, and it has made me the happiest like I've

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Speaker 1: ever been. I look at myself in photos and me

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Speaker 1: I'm no longer nitpicking at myself. Yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: tons of things that I could be, like, could fix this,

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Speaker 1: teak this, whatever, but it was my source of contention

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Speaker 1: looking at photos myself and hating my nose, and I

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Speaker 1: think looking at myself now, I don't pick at myself.

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Speaker 1: I care so same with you, same with your little

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Speaker 1: bob job, you know.

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, no one's gonna like that I

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Speaker 2: say this, but like I reckon my favorite couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks I've ever had in my life are the two

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Speaker 2: weeks following. But I don't have to do anything but

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Speaker 2: sit and read and no one expects anything of me.

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Speaker 2: That is not why I would recommend going out getting

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Speaker 2: a surgery. But it's nice.

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Speaker 1: It takes off some kindle reads. We loved it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I read. I read seven books in

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Speaker 2: two weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's hot.

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Speaker 2: It is hot, girls read, girls read fantasy, romance smart,

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Speaker 2: so get onto it. But yeah, I completely agree. I

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Speaker 2: I've got what I want done and I could go

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Speaker 2: for it, Like I could be like, oh I want

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Speaker 2: these are the things, the things I've had done and

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Speaker 2: it comes to a point where I have to kind

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Speaker 2: in every single photo. I'm like, you can't post that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: no fucking chance. Put that away.

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Speaker 1: And if it makes you feel bad about yourself, like

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Speaker 1: it's self affirming, like it is care for yourself. It

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Speaker 1: Be a better person. But I think it makes you

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Speaker 1: feel like you're a nicer person, you feel more holy

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Speaker 2: You just feel I feel like I did this for me.

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Speaker 1: I did it for me. I did it for me.

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Speaker 2: I don't go doing it for boyfriend's partners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also don't think you should be commenting

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Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, you're so fake now, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: And I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, and I chose it. I paid for it.

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Speaker 2: I know. I want to thank you for saying the

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Speaker 2: most obvious thing in the whole world I know. Or

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Speaker 2: do you have another hear me out, babes, I've got

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Speaker 2: a list, She text me and goes, these are all

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Speaker 2: just a bit bitchy. I'm not really sure I can

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Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, this is hard because I'm like

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking with ears, like this is like our wine

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Speaker 2: To know we are getting I said, Logan, we get

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Speaker 2: through this, We'll do this, We'll give the people what

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Speaker 1: Come on, I love it. Okay, where are we going? Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be a hot take, but keep

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Speaker 1: straight men out of Polarate's.

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Speaker 2: You know what. I'm not a Plartes girl, but I

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Speaker 1: my hot girl walk go straight into my Polarty slash

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Speaker 2: You can take the content one the less the minority

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Speaker 1: That's a girl's space.

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Speaker 2: Get out you can do for the girls. Get out private,

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Speaker 2: POLARATEI sessions together.

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Speaker 1: That's hot, or you take your content, like if you're

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Speaker 2: Not there my space. I think if you go with

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Speaker 1: It's just so cute. He's great. He's single.

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Speaker 2: Guys put his Instagram in the show.

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Speaker 1: And he loves it. But I think he also feels

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to make girls on comfort.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and he's very very conscious, like take it. My brother,

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Speaker 1: he's taken a class on like women's studies. He's very

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Speaker 2: He loves girls, but he doesn't really Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's my hot take. Keep straight men out.

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Speaker 2: Of polluts, especially if you're in, if you're congruo. If

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Speaker 2: Guys, are you in my cars? It's game over. I

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Speaker 1: That's valid. I've had game and walk me home like

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: But because how many hot takes are allowed to give you,

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Speaker 1: I want all of them. My hot take is breakfast

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Speaker 2: In like western countries. I know in Japan sushi for bread.

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Speaker 1: I want rice for breakfast. I want my last night's

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Speaker 1: tika masala for breakfast. But why am I being told

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Speaker 2: Am If I want to want that, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: do that. Why do I have that milk in my drink?

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Speaker 2: Some guns seat will do the breakfast I don't have.

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Speaker 2: but so I've scooted around that I will eat last nights.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 2: I can't fucking wait. I am bowl of bolonaise, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that I really hate is you

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Speaker 2: Yeh, all day breakfast at McDonald's. No, why can't I

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Speaker 1: In the morning granola at six pm? No?

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Speaker 2: I want the day lunch.

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Speaker 1: I want to wake up at nine and go to

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Speaker 1: the cafe and be able to order a burger. That's

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Speaker 1: what I want.

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Speaker 2: No white, it'spadood, like just one.

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Speaker 1: Eggs are disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I actually got as of last night because I made

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Speaker 2: when you like make a frum. Sorry, she's like cringing

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Speaker 2: They're sweaty feet, honestly, And I'm like, and a little ramikan.

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Speaker 1: Really talked about this. I think one drunk night.

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Speaker 2: We have we always it's like I don't remember any

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Speaker 1: You'd say, really, I think there's a really miss like

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Speaker 1: misconception about who would do well on Survivor. I came

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Speaker 1: eighth on Survivor. Yeah, I'm a girly pop like most people.

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Speaker 2: I told you girls girl too.

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Speaker 1: was going on Survivor before I left, and they laughed

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Speaker 1: That's my thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, I feel like it's socializing is the key

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Speaker 1: I think the huge element that people think about first

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Speaker 1: But you're surviving in a group, and realistically, nothing bad

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Speaker 1: is actually going to happen to you. Like you are

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Speaker 2: The bugs, I think his mind, the bugs are show

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Speaker 1: Don't think I saw it like the tiny, tiny spiders

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Speaker 1: But other than that, like it wasn't too bad. You

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Speaker 2: They're just like, yeah, sleep, so it's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't look at the night vision camera when

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I will never taste the theory, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: If you went on survival, where would you wear your buff?

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Speaker 2: Good fucking question. I'd wear it as a tube top.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to try that?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a bar like.

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Speaker 2: Black red is my color? All this is your first one?

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Speaker 1: That was my first one.

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Speaker 2: The brain guys, they're actually named the fabric. I thought

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Speaker 2: they'd be. I thought they would be giving a head scarf,

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Speaker 2: but they're like stretchy cotton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like full like you can.

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Speaker 2: So I actually would step into it, like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look we're having a bathroom bake. Everyone talk amongst yourself.

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Speaker 2: I'll log it for my.

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Speaker 1: My god, yes, yes, yes, slay that's our girl.

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Speaker 2: So this is my buff. What's this team called brains?

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Speaker 1: It's written on a chest brain. Would you would you

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Speaker 1: bring brains or brawn?

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Speaker 2: I think i'd be brains, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because look at you, like your boss bitch killing it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I give brains, but I definitely

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Speaker 2: don't give braun.

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Speaker 1: I think you give brains. I think there's there's so

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Speaker 1: many different versions of what it means to be a

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Speaker 1: It's about like not like that nerdy book smart. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really big misconception when you do

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Speaker 1: there is so much more that. Like one category is

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Speaker 1: like me for being a brain, Like I went on

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Speaker 1: got me really really far. True, but I had to

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Speaker 2: And I feel I feel like the way they're like

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Speaker 2: time You're like, wait, it just doesn't match what you

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Speaker 2: think it's going to. So, yeah, there's so many different

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Speaker 2: definitions of you're.

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Speaker 1: The hottest brain I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: So all right, So Logan and I have been friends

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we met through a mutual We met through Lane. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we met. I think it was like her twenty first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were at our friend's house for a birthday.

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Speaker 2: I was there as the shunned X of an old

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Speaker 2: Bulldogs player and Logan's husband plays for Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: He does. He's hot as hell. Don't look him up,

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Speaker 1: don't follow he's private because I'm private. Fine, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: isn't I met through that and we didn't really sort

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Speaker 1: we vibes so hard, but then you kind of just

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Speaker 2: And then I actually think maybe her birthday the following

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Speaker 2: we got a lot, we hung out again, and then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're going on a girl's trip, so

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Speaker 1: we're going to Bali.

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Speaker 2: Watch this space this top could be cute, and Bali

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Speaker 2: was like a little mini scrip. Can I ring it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: We're going to Bali for like two weeks together with

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Speaker 2: I want to be like I need a holiday, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, life is a bit crazy. So I was on

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Speaker 2: Your girl is tired. I'm busy and still came eighth

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Speaker 2: as brains Like all right, let's get into it. So

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Speaker 2: logan for the girlies who don't fully get survivor how

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Speaker 2: would you describe it? Like what is it? Oh my gosh, okay,

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Speaker 1: It's like a lot of the flies, except you don't

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Speaker 1: So basically you're kind of like marine on an island.

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Speaker 1: not that great. But the immunity challenge is what you

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Speaker 2: They're basically just like ripping each other.

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Speaker 1: To shid nasty. It gets nasty. Thank god for editing,

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Speaker 1: because my god, some of it gets nasty. Some of

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Speaker 2: Think they would keep in all the heavy jobs like that.

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Speaker 1: You would think, but I would say that they'd have

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Speaker 2: It's human nature. Like no, oh my god, that is

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Speaker 2: not what I bring back bullying. Bullying is no. Bullying

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Speaker 2: is never okay. But I think when you're in a

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Speaker 1: I think as well, when you're trying, like when it's

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Speaker 1: if you're like on the defense and you're really backing

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna like everyone you're so there's going to

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Speaker 1: This is the thing that I live by, and I

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Speaker 1: is I don't like everyone, so I don't need everyone

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Speaker 2: Like it's absolutely and that's like something that I feel

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Speaker 2: even with hate comments and stuff that you've gotten a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the people that matter do hey best.

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Speaker 2: Literally all right, what made you actually apply and did

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Speaker 2: you get on on the first come or did you

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Speaker 1: I applied originally back in twenty seventeen, and I got

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00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,080
Speaker 1: through pretty much all the way to the end of

441
00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,240
Speaker 1: sort of the production casting, but was let go at

442
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,919
Speaker 1: that stage. And it was probably the best thing for

443
00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,000
Speaker 1: me because I was twenty one.

444
00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,760
Speaker 2: I fucking out didn't really.

445
00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,520
Speaker 1: Know who I was. I knew that I love Survivor,

446
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 1: which is why I wanted to apply. I'm such a

447
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,639
Speaker 1: games person, like I love a challenge, I do family

448
00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,800
Speaker 1: games and I all the time, like.

449
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,840
Speaker 2: I just like I without drinking game yea more than

450
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 2: people would like everyone goes put the deck of Cards

451
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 2: away everything more fun.

452
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, you know that person who's sitting

453
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 1: at the table reading out and the instructions, it's me.

454
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna die and we're gonna enjoy it.

455
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, gods, can you just pay attention. I'm just

456
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,919
Speaker 2: reading the instructions. I need you all to understand, like

457
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,480
Speaker 2: we're just trying to have a glass of wine.

458
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,119
Speaker 1: Can leave us alone, we don't want to think. And

459
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, we're thinking so.

460
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 2: BALI sorry, girls that are coming with us. It's going

461
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,320
Speaker 2: to be Games Central. We're gonna pack some games in

462
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Speaker 2: our suitcase.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited. But yeah, So I applied because yeah,

464
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm just like such a challenge kind of person and

465
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it. Like I was like, I've

466
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,159
Speaker 1: watched this on TV since I was a kid, Like

467
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 1: that's a dream like And I applied a couple of

468
00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,880
Speaker 1: other times, well not technically applied, but I got because

469
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,679
Speaker 1: I got so far in production the first time they

470
00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,680
Speaker 1: would kind of keep you.

471
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Speaker 2: On a rostral again.

472
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,119
Speaker 1: It's like and then they kind of see what the

473
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 1: next theme is going to be and see if you

474
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 1: match up with that theme and sort of keep you

475
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 1: on this list of who to call and when. But

476
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 1: every time I spoke to them, it wasn't the right time.

477
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: The second time, I was pregnant with my first Dado Lola.

478
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 1: The next time they wanted my husband to come on

479
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 1: for the Blood Versus Water season, and he's an AFL player,

480
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 1: so that's not possible, Gabes. And then the next time

481
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 1: everything sort of a line. I'd just gotten married, my

482
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 1: daughter was about to start school, and I was sort

483
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 1: of at this stage where I'm.

484
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: Like, oh, if any time the time is now.

485
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 1: The time is now. So I applied, and I knew

486
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 1: sort of as I applied. Do you know when you like,

487
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 1: you know, when the universe is just telling you something,

488
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 1: You're like, you just feel really good.

489
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 2: About experiens we speak. I totally get you. It's hard,

490
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

491
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 1: That was how I felt with Survivor going in. I

492
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: was just like, Yeah, this is where I meant to be,

493
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: this is what I'm meant to do. And I know

494
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: it's just a fun little game and it's a reality

495
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 1: TV show, but it really put me in the place of, yeah,

496
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm finally finding some path with my life. I mean,

497
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Speaker 1: I lost a lot of my twenties to being a mum.

498
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 1: So I had my first daughter at twenty two and

499
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: then my son at twenty five. So finding who you

500
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 1: are in that stage of life when everything is about.

501
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 2: And you're no longer a priority.

502
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're still so young. You're a little baby girl.

503
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: You're you're only turning twenty five.

504
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 2: I would have been having my second kid this year.

505
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like you're having two kids right now. Imagine is.

506
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 2: So oh my god, it must have been a lot

507
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 2: more mature than me. I cannot actually given me. I

508
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 2: think you literally it would be like me having Literally.

509
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: We just have a fun time in my though. It's

510
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: just a vibe.

511
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: It's fun.

512
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: There's not strict parenting.

513
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 2: And your kids or her kids. One of her son

514
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,479
Speaker 2: looks like what's it called Jayce no shat something off

515
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 2: rug bats.

516
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Speaker 1: Oh, he looks like Johnny from the Wild Lone Berries.

517
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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, just research that up. That's what her son

518
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 2: looks like. It's the cutesting Yeah insert that lad boy.

519
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, so yeah, it was just something that I

520
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: wanted to do and yeah, find something for myself, absolutely

521
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: lose myself in my twenties. But I kind of just

522
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 1: want to.

523
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: Find yourself I wanted to do.

524
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, fine, you absolutely and we're right here.

525
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 2: Babes talk us through the casting process like beginning to

526
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 2: end one. Yeah, that's how it went.

527
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: The casting process isn't super long, like it depends on

528
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: the season, but basically you do your application, so you

529
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: do a huge questionnaire plus like a little video. Anything

530
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: that I would say to anyone wanting to apply to

531
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: any reality TV is don't worry about the questions they

532
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: ask you in the video to answer, like what are

533
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: you going to do on survivor how would you react

534
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: to this? Blah blah blah. Make yourself shine in.

535
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: Your like your personality is what they look.

536
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: They just want to look at your personality bas silly,

537
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: be creative, be fun, but be you one hundred and

538
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: ten percent and don't worry about the questions. Don't feel

539
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,239
Speaker 1: too much pressure. Talk as if you're talking to your

540
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: best mate, yeah, and just being a silly little.

541
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Speaker 2: Girl girl on the couch, and I'll be like, yeah,

542
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: I want her.

543
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: Unless you're like a really alpha male straight guy.

544
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then once that gets approved, like do you

545
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: meet people in person?

546
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: Like yeah, So after that stage it goes to like

547
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: Skype interviews, and once you pass the scripe interviews, it

548
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: goes to and in person interview, which is the panel

549
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: of the executive producers. So it is very daunting, like

550
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: walking into a room of like three or four people

551
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: sat behind a desk. They've got your whole like file out,

552
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: They've got pictures of you.

553
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: Think the X Factor auditions.

554
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that. It's basically that, except you walk in

555
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: and you have to be on. You have to have

556
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: that personality, like you have to.

557
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: Work and make you compete in like mini challenges. Why

558
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 2: did I think that they did?

559
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: They used to so the very first time I applied,

560
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: it was like group scenarios of like mini challenges and

561
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: doing push ups and sit ups and random doing a

562
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: puzzle on the floor and stuff. But they've kind of

563
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: cut that out now. I'm not sure if they do

564
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: it for other shows, but they've cut that bit out

565
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: of Survivor now. Yeah, I mean they want to see

566
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: how you interact in a group setting, but they kind

567
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: of can get that off your personality anyways. Yeah, and

568
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: then after that, it was like just a little bit

569
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: of a waiting game to hear the call. And I

570
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: kind of knew as I walked out at that room.

571
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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm god, this is mine. Yeah.

572
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: The funny thing is I think I had all of

573
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: and the mole, which is the production company. I had

574
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: all of them on my side. It was actually Channel

575
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: ten who were like, we're not a hundred pent sure

576
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: about her. So I had to answer a few more

577
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: questions after that to convince them that I was a brain.

578
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: That was the biggest Like why into this category? Yeah,

579
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: because the two categories brain is a brain yep, So

580
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: I had to really push the social brain element. The

581
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: hard thing is, like I know that I'm a very intellectual,

582
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: brainy person. Anyway, I tewed it after school. I did

583
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: really well in school.

584
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: I get my degrees.

585
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am a very smart girl. And I will

586
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: never not say that because women shouldn't put themselves down,

587
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: always just lift each other up. But I didn't want

588
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: to harp on that that wasn't I was like, social brain,

589
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a bunch of smart.

590
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: But you're like, I know I'm smart.

591
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna have textbook spark people. But this is my ankle.

592
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: I work in marketing. I know I have to sell

593
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: myself in a certain way, which is why. Finnily enough,

594
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: I had my job title listed under my name on

595
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: Survivor as AFL Wag. I ha, I'm like, I hate it,

596
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: but I told them to do that. And the reason

597
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: why because being in marketing, you need to know what's

598
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: going to capture people's attention. So I hate the term.

599
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I've on podcast to talk about how it's derogatory and

600
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: I hate it and it's disgusting. But I'm like, do

601
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: you know what, this is my shot. This is my

602
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: chance to like put myself out there as logan, not

603
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: as Jason's wi.

604
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: It also gives people away to under under us.

605
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, You've got so many people who have

606
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: these amazing job titles and are incredible on Survivor and

607
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: the little Wag beat them. That's I kind of wanted

608
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: to take back the power of the word of wag

609
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: and be like, no.

610
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: We can do this too.

611
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: You're not going to remember that I'm a wag by

612
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: the end of it. You're gonna remember that I'm logan.

613
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

614
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: So that's why I did it. And I know that

615
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: just as a marketing girly, you have to sell yourself. Yeah,

616
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: and that's what I did. I hated it, but I

617
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: did it.

618
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would my title be under my name of brutal? Yeah,

619
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: that probably would be what it was. That would probably.

620
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: Be Well, we'd be the classy version of content creators, Like.

621
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: People go what our content creator?

622
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Literally it just sounds like content creator.

623
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, So so where were you when you

624
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 2: found out that you got called for the show? And

625
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: who was the first person you told?

626
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: I was in my living room.

627
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: I was so excited.

628
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: I was in my living room and Jason wasn't home

629
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: yet and I had to wait for him to come

630
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: home and he was only like two minutes away, and

631
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: I was like just screaming. So I think Jason wasn't home.

632
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: So I called my dad first and he's like, you

633
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: got it, didn't you?

634
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: And I was like yeah.

635
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: And then Jace came home and I was crying. And

636
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: then I put like the producer on the phone to

637
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: Jason because he was a big Dogs fan. So, I mean,

638
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that's how I got on

639
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: the show, but he's what you've got?

640
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: What you've got? Absolutely? How much notice were you given

641
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: before you had to I.

642
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: Was given about six weeks notice. I'll say question, but

643
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: it is hard to get your fa like when you

644
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: have two kids and a husband who's working full time

645
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: trying to get full time care for and you don't

646
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: know how long you're out there. You could be out

647
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: there for a week, you could be out there for

648
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: two months. I was out there for the longest period

649
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: of time because I was on the jury. So I

650
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: from the time that I left to the time I

651
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: got back, it was like, I want to say, like

652
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: fifty eight days or something, and you don't know how

653
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: am I supposed to get care for an unknown amount

654
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: of days? Like it is crazy work, so it's difficult

655
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: to do that in that sort of six week period.

656
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: But then you've also got to think about like what

657
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: am I gonna wear, Like what fitness do I what

658
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: am I doing to prepare?

659
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: I got six they tell you to break What was

660
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: your packing instructions? What were you allowed with you?

661
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: So you get told you can come out on your

662
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: day day one with the day one outfit, So you

663
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: try and use as like as much as the day

664
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: one outfit as possible, like try and layer up, and

665
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: then you have sort of six items that get drip

666
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: fed to you throughout the rest of the time that

667
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: you're there.

668
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: That's like you would really have to think about.

669
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: What you Yeah, oh my gosh. That was my one thing.

670
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: Like I didn't do anything else. I was like, I

671
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: just need to worry about what I wear. And I

672
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: just spent so much in my head that I didn't

673
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: bring pants for the first six days. So I'm just

674
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: in a little miniskirt.

675
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, so mini skirts. I saw

676
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: that miniskirt was it was like a netbally sort of

677
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: like it was like a mini skirt. Yeah, what made

678
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: you pick that?

679
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: Because it was cute?

680
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: Did I have shorts under it? Yeah?

681
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: It was okay, so no, Like, yes, it was cute,

682
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: but it also had shorts under it that had a

683
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: little pocket, So I thought if I found an idol

684
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: quickly pop it into my pocket, that we wouldn't be

685
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: seen by the score. So that was my thought process

686
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: around it.

687
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: There are sometimes I see people's clothes that they bring

688
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: on and I'm like, you didn't use those six weeks

689
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: given your eye.

690
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what everyone thought about me because I

691
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: didn't wear pants. But I was like, do you know

692
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: what I like this outfit? I think I feel good,

693
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: I look cute, this feels very me, and you know what,

694
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: I will struggle for the first six days before I

695
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: can get my Tracki's and I'll be fine. I just

696
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: ended up like giving the puppy dog eyes to the

697
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: people on my driving like can I use your jacket?

698
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: I feel like when I see people in a bikini

699
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: and like it might be like a strapless bikini or

700
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: like a bikini that isn't like supportive or moves around,

701
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no.

702
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: That was my biggest fit, Like that was probably my

703
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: biggest Like what bathers do I bring?

704
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: Do you use a full bum or do you want

705
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: to get a town line? Well?

706
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was another thing that I was like,

707
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: do I want to see that on TV? Like do

708
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: I do?

709
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: I want my as on TV? But then how much

710
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: of my it? The whole ars to me are less

711
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: flattering than yeah, a bit of a skin.

712
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like a bit more cheeky. But then

713
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: we have like another girl, Kate, who oh my god,

714
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: she wore the hottest outfits out there. But I was like,

715
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: my god, girl, you are cold. She looks so.

716
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like and it's like you got so much

717
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: outfit heavy because that is your outfit for the rest

718
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: of the time and you're like, yeah, you why didn't

719
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: I think to bring that?

720
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have to be really smart about what

721
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: you bring, but it all gets trashed in the end.

722
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: Do you just wash it in the water?

723
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you wash your clothes. But the hard thing

724
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: about being in smaller is it's like a really humid environment,

725
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: so even if you wash it, if it rains, it

726
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: doesn't dry for like four days. So you have to

727
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: be really careful about when you wash something. Yeah, and

728
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: then you're just like in the shelter at night, like

729
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: it's raining and you clothes are wet and it's just

730
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: it's gross. You get like all wrinkly hands, it's a

731
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: hot mess.

732
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: Does everyone stink?

733
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: This is the question I get so often. Really technically yes,

734
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: but no, but there's not. Actually, that's the thing. No

735
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: one really smelled that bad of BeO There was like

736
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: a couple of people that you like, will go go

737
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: to the go to the ocean babes, But most of

738
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: the time it was just this like sickly sweet fire smell.

739
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: Because you're around the campfire constantly, and you know when

740
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: you go camping that you get that really gross smell

741
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: in your hair and everywhere.

742
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: Sweet.

743
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: It's like because the wood that we use out there,

744
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: it turns to a sweet smell because it's like a

745
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: lot of the coconut tree or coagonnut trees, coconut trees

746
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: and stuff that you're using the fire. It's not like

747
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: redwood that we would use in Australia for your fire.

748
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: So it's like a weird sweet smell and then it's

749
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: mixed in with your bodily smells and it gives off this.

750
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: It's like a musk. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, whenever

751
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: if I get my hair on or something and there's

752
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: I go into someone's house and there's a bloody fire going,

753
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: I go turn that shit off because it makes your hair.

754
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: It does, so your hair just smell like smoke. Yeah,

755
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: the whole fucking fifty And.

756
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: I had my hair in braids the whole time because

757
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I've got really fine, curly hair. So it just matted

758
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: from day one, like matted immediately, and I was like, great,

759
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: I lost so much hair out there. Was disgusting. Really,

760
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: I lost smoke so much hair, lost so much weight

761
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: I lost. I lost seven kilos out there. So thirty

762
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: nine days, like on the beach playing in the game,

763
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: and I lost.

764
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: Seven exercising as well. They're not giving you that much food.

765
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: We were starving. I think out of the we were

766
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: eating ice and beans and coconut, and it took us

767
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: a really long time to figure out we should put

768
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: the coconut in the rice and beans as well, because

769
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: that made it taste better.

770
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Was it just like there's no flavoring notes, it's

771
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: all so bland.

772
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: But then again, by the time it's like thirty eight

773
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: days and you're starving, I was like, I cannot wait

774
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: to get back to the beach for rice and beans.

775
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I hate rice and beans by the way. Beans are disgusting.

776
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: But I was like, I'm yeah, there's no like picking

777
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: and using at that point because you need it. Yeah.

778
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: Do you think it's nutritional enough to be sustainable over

779
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: that period of time? Were you like, I'm exhausted and

780
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: I need more food. Yeah.

781
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, while you're getting the protein from the beans

782
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: and you're getting a lot of carbohydrates from the rice,

783
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: and it's like a slow acting carbohydrate, so it does

784
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: sort of sustain you, but you just get really hungry.

785
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: But in saying that, you get used to it, like

786
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: your tummy shrinks and you get used to the amount

787
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: of food that you're given. I think the hard thing

788
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: was when people started winning a lot of challenges, like

789
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: the reward challenges, and they would get the American Feast

790
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: and all these like different food. They'd come back after

791
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: experiencing that food, and then they'd be way more hungry

792
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: the next few days because they've gorged themselves on this food.

793
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: And I'd be there no rewards because our team sucked.

794
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Was that and I'm like happy with my rais and beans?

795
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: I was like yeah, it was it like if you

796
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: see that kind of food in front of you, like

797
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: someone else might win it, were you like, oh.

798
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: It was devastating. I cried after not getting the parma reward.

799
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine.

800
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: It's my favorite food, like you. So when you go

801
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: through the application process, you write down a lot of

802
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: your favorite stuff so.

803
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: You have it there and someone else gets it.

804
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: You know what rewards are catered to you. So when

805
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: you come up and it's like we did this challenge

806
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: and it was like and the reward is a Parma

807
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: and I was like that's mine and we lost, and

808
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I just walked away and I cried literally like day

809
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: thirty by this stage, guys, So I was it.

810
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: Is more do not even defend yourself. You're on Survivor

811
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: and if there's a parma in front of you, that's

812
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: meant for you, and someone else wins that game. Do

813
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: you know what?

814
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: The same thing happens at the part if I see

815
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: someone walk past with the parma, it's not mine.

816
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, why isn't that for me? Literally, past, that

817
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: would be past, it would be mine. Oh sorry, it

818
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: would absolutely be mine.

819
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Past. It would be yours with some garlic, red some wine.

820
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually would ask for wine because it would

821
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: just be fun to be a little bit like tipsy

822
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: in that situation.

823
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: I got drunk twice out there. It was the funniest

824
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: thing ever. It was like I was sitting on top

825
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: of the well having a drunk well chat and they're

826
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: like the producers in the background piercing themselves laughing, but

827
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: they're like, we can't use it. You're just slurring, and.

828
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: You're like, great, I'm.

829
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: Drunk into jungle starving.

830
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, it's my life right now? Literally? How

831
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: did people react after eating a reward dish? Did they

832
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: have adverse reactions because they hadn't eaten anything else substantial.

833
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely would be like sick. Yeah, we had I

834
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: think someone threw it once. I think one of the

835
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: girls had to like run off. So we get sort

836
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: of transported from the challenge and the reward back to

837
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: camp and have to walk in.

838
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: Like a buggy.

839
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can tell you ruin the illusion,

840
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: but you do get transported. It's not a buggy, it's

841
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: a car. It's a car. It's really secret if it's

842
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: a van. Yeah, actually there is acon but yeah, so

843
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: you get transported back and forth from the challenge location

844
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: because it is across sam and it's a really big island.

845
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: So once you've got these rewards, sometimes your tummy you

846
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: can go a little bit awry. And I don't know

847
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: if she'll like me saying this. I'm not gonna say

848
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: who there's if I say, there's twenty four casts, so

849
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: twelve people you can pick from. Yeah, she had, yeah,

850
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: got the runs and had to run.

851
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: Off the van and be like, oh my god because of.

852
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: That kind of business. I think she was running for

853
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: the bathroom, which is probably an interesting if you.

854
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: Do have the runs, do you wipe your eyes with

855
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: leaves or do you just go in the water.

856
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: No, we have a toilet, so but it's not it's

857
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: not a toilet toilet. It's like your first podcast back

858
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: and we're talking about shit on.

859
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: The that's all right, that's everything.

860
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: So the toilet is like a drop, a long drop,

861
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: and it's got a toilet seat. You have toilet paper.

862
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Is there one per tribe, one per tribe.

863
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: It's disgusting like it is, Like I was like, I'd

864
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: rather shit in the woods. It's discussed like it's not

865
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: because it's imagine it's out there and festering for days

866
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: and people's ship just building up and up.

867
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it. Friend. It's like a festival toilet,

868
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: but times like yeah.

869
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: It's that kind of smell end of the night festival.

870
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: You have to use sawdust to cover everything up so

871
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not a vibe. And then you've got all

872
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: your emergency sort of medical stuff in there, so everyone

873
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: has if you have sort of prescription medication, you have

874
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: to take all your contacts and stuff. It's all in

875
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: that area. So it's off camera and I had to

876
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: change my contacts out every day, so I'd have to

877
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: walk in there.

878
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: And your hands wouldn't be like as as you would

879
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: probably have.

880
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Hand sanitizer, but it's not soap, so you're not so

881
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: You've still got dirt everywhere.

882
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: And it's sanitized. I'm like, I'm someone that really doesn't

883
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: like hand sanitizer. I would rather wash. Yeah. No, it's

884
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 2: just making my dirty hands like.

885
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: And it makes my skin drives good. It's not a

886
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: fun time. Yeah, it was gross. So yeah, that was

887
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: the toilet situation. Not a vibe at all.

888
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: What's the situation with periods?

889
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: We have period care out there, but I think I

890
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: got really lucky and my period end just as I

891
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: started day one. Oh, and then I got it because

892
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: I was out there thirty nine days. I got it

893
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: around day thirty. But it was really light. And a

894
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of the girls just lost their periods out there,

895
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: and a.

896
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: Lot of them were just on no nutritional value.

897
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you use your period like dropping that kind of weight,

898
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: and you're like that environment, the stress all of it,

899
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: you end up losing your period. But yeah, a lot

900
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: of the girls would either just take birth control have

901
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: their aud or they would lose their period.

902
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like most girls would probably get on

903
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: the pill or something some.

904
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just didn't want to particularly do that because

905
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: I know I'm a raging asshole when I have homes

906
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: I am I'm already going to be in a stressed

907
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: environment where I have to get people like me. I

908
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: don't need to be on perfectly.

909
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: No, you're right, But then that week before you're like

910
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: that couple of days for your period, you're like, oh

911
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: my god.

912
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm hype apologize and I'm like, sorry, nearly

913
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: voted you out. I just have my period.

914
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: Literally, I'm sorry. I love you, I really do. So

915
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: with the camera crew, do they just follow you everywhere

916
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: at all times? And can you converse with them?

917
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, first question, yes and no. So they follow

918
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: you everywhere to a point. So there's always going to

919
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: be production with you at some point. You never truly alone,

920
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: which is like a really threatening thing, like you're never alone.

921
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: It's there's always going to be.

922
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: Something before where like there's the Big Brother, I that

923
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: like watches everyone in the city. Reality shows are like that.

924
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: You're talking about the Truman Show.

925
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: Or George Orwell's book nineteen eighty five? Is that what

926
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: it's called? No one started in school?

927
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Fact enough, No, I was looking the show. I was

928
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: thinking Truman Show, but yeah, so there's always production there,

929
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: like twinshow safety. Basically what happens is when you're on

930
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: the beach before challenges and stuff, you usually have one

931
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: or two cameras that will follow you around, but you

932
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time to go look for

933
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: idols and stuff like that, and if you do, you've

934
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: got a camera crew following you, so it's really obvious.

935
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: So it's really hard to secretly get an idol, which

936
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: is really stressful. And then when you get to the challenges,

937
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: the cameras, yeah, you're like you're looking at someone like

938
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: you've just got a group of people talking, they've got

939
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: a camera and there's this one person running off with

940
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: a camera on them and you're like, I wonder what's

941
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: happening there. Yeah, so I don't want to take away

942
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: the mystery of it all, but it is really hard

943
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: and that's why it's really difficult to conceal it idol

944
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: as well, and you have to do it sneakly and

945
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people find them in grooves.

946
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: But that you could say, conteal an idol in front

947
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: of the camera crew and it's like they can't go

948
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: tell someone.

949
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: No no, So you can't talk to the camera crew,

950
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: so there's no discussion of the camra crew. You do

951
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: talk to producers sort of when the camera's off, if

952
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: they give you instructions or just say, hey, guys, we're

953
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: not talking about this right now. As soon as the

954
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: cameras are off, there's no survivor talk. There is no

955
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: suvivor talk. Anything that they can't show, like the storyline

956
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: for you can't talk about off camera because they want

957
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: to show you a story out there. They want to say, Hey,

958
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: this conversation happened here, this person want to did this

959
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: and this led to this vote.

960
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: Like if you talked about a camera and created like

961
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: an alliance with someone in the next Tale of a

962
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: sudden your friends and they didn't.

963
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Choose exactly like you to repeat, there's a lot of

964
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: confusion around it. And I think that's why sometimes when

965
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: these things do happen behind the cameras, the audience gets

966
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: really confused with like, hang on, wait, they didn't like

967
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: each other, why are they working together? Where's the context?

968
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: Ever? If they missed things like that, make you repeat it?

969
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Yes in the confessional, So I only had to repeat

970
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: one thing. It was never shown, but I found someone's

971
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: eye id or clue, so it had fallen out of

972
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: their bag, and I wanted to steal the idle clue

973
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: and plant it on someone and pretend to be like,

974
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, guys, do you see that in their bag,

975
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: like they've got an other clue, and be like we

976
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: need to put boats on them to flush out an

977
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: idle that they didn't have, and so they'd go home.

978
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: So I was I was thinking. But because I found

979
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: the clue when the cameras went around, I had to

980
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: go hide it in the woods somewhere and pretend to

981
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: stumble upon it. And I was like, oh, I wonder

982
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: what is Yeah, it was really bad.

983
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: They're like take that again again.

984
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: My accreditations are winning year eight drama Student of the War.

985
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, they didn't really make us repeat any conversations.

986
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: So I think the conversations have to happen really free

987
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: flowing and naturally otherwise, like these people are just regular people,

988
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: they're not actors. It looks staged otherwise, So that's why

989
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: they really hammered down on don't do anything that's not

990
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: on camera if you want it to be shown. So

991
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: if you're not obeying by those rules, it really does

992
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: kiss off production because it's just hindering and your story.

993
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what was your lowest moment on the island.

994
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: There was a fear, so I had a pretty low

995
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: point when I nearly got voted out. Obviously for anyone

996
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: that didn't watch it got towards the end. It was

997
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: the start of Merge and I got blindsided, but luckily

998
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I had found an idol and I played it, but

999
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: using that idol, then got my best friend out of

1000
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: the game, which really was really hard. And I think

1001
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: the hardest thing about that was coming back to camp

1002
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: and knowing the only person that was on my side

1003
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: was voted out.

1004
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: So I had now you're like you all Yeah, I.

1005
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: Had ten people standing in a circle around me who

1006
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: had all voted for me, and I was like, oh,

1007
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: like it felt personal at that stage. It's not, but

1008
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: it felt like it because you're in your feels and

1009
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: it hurts, like.

1010
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: You come home, you're the people now for a week.

1011
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got deceived and coming back, like when you

1012
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: get blindsided, you'd rather just get voted out sometimes because

1013
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: you're like you have to come back and then deal

1014
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: with that whole situation.

1015
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sure it doesn't happen to making.

1016
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: Men's try your best to get yourself off the bottom.

1017
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: It is a really tough situation, and anyone that has

1018
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: played Survivor or owning games like it. When you get

1019
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 1: into yourself into that situation, it is difficult to crawl

1020
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: back out of.

1021
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: So I was really just sometimes I feel like it's

1022
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: easier for them to dump the votes and you again,

1023
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: they're like, she already knows, we don't want to hear.

1024
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: We're not affecting the relationship any worse than it was already.

1025
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: You have to work even harder, and then even if

1026
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: you get further in it, then you become the underdog,

1027
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: and like everyone likes to take down the underdog because

1028
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: everyone wants to root for the underdog. So it's a

1029
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: really tough position to be in. And I'm really lucky

1030
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: that I don't know, you know what, pause I'm not lucky.

1031
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I did fucking well. That happened to me, and I

1032
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: lasted another week or so out there, and that is

1033
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: a really long.

1034
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: So you didn't get voted out the.

1035
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: Next time, No, it was another three or four votes later.

1036
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: That is a scared because there was four people on

1037
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: the jury after that, so four votes later. So yeah,

1038
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: it was It's a tough spot to be in, but

1039
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I did bloody well to crawl out of it as

1040
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: much as like, absolutely, yeah tough.

1041
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could do it, I think

1042
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: i'd cry.

1043
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: I cried all the time. It's fine.

1044
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: Do people flirt and hook up because I I'm someone

1045
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: that prefers a reality, like I just love a bit

1046
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: of romance and everything, and I know an American there's relationships,

1047
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: like big relationships that come out of that show. Did

1048
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: that happen on your season or is it common?

1049
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? So our season, no, I just don't. I think

1050
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: there was a lot of people that were already in

1051
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: relationships on our show, and like the people sort of

1052
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: didn't match up. There wasn't really that romantic connection. But

1053
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: on other seasons, definitely there has been sort of behind

1054
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: the scenes, a bit of shelter and whatever. I obviously

1055
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: wasn't there, so I can't speak on that. But in

1056
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: the sense of flirting, this is something that was a

1057
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: bit of a fun thing for me. Was I am

1058
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: so secure in my relationship, I'm married, I've got kids,

1059
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: but I'm also a woman in my twenties, and I

1060
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: know sometimes that you've got a certain power, yeah, and

1061
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to use that. There's definitely times that

1062
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I might may have bettered my eyelashes at the boys

1063
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: a little bit harder than I should have, sill, But exactly,

1064
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: you have to use what you.

1065
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: Have out there as a weapon in your arsenal. Y. Yeah.

1066
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I spoke about it with my husband before I went out,

1067
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm probably gonna flirt with

1068
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: some people, and I'm probably going to use every bit

1069
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: of what i have far than crossing the line to

1070
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: get myself further. If I'm going out there and five

1071
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: hundred K is on the line, I'm going to use

1072
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: every asset in my arsenal to get myself further along

1073
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: to win this game. So my husband was aware, we

1074
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: knew what I'm like, are let me retire early. He's like,

1075
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: just don't kiss anyone and we're good. And I was like, sweet,

1076
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: no worry, you just can't. You can fuck him in the.

1077
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: Shelter, just just don't kidd no.

1078
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: But honestly, this is the one thing that I don't

1079
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: understand about people on Survivor that have previously done that

1080
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: that I've heard of. It's disgusting. You're not showering, you

1081
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: stink like, and you're hooking up with people like.

1082
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: People have sex on like the last ay of festival.

1083
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 2: I'm like you, yeah, disgusting, this is like that time,

1084
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: so fucking really Yeah.

1085
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think I know of like one potential

1086
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: pool that did on previous seasons. But that's the most

1087
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: that I know. But I do know. On American America,

1088
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: Boston Robin Amber.

1089
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love them. Yeah, you're amazing, but they.

1090
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: But they're married, married, like four kids now, So I mean,

1091
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: moll of story, maybe you do fuck on Survivor.

1092
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Maybe you should. You know, everyone looks everyone looks tan like, sorry,

1093
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: if I rocked up on Survivor, this is that you

1094
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: guys are all going to think I'm an idiot. If

1095
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: I rocked up on Survivor and did a little scan

1096
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: around and I didn't think any because I'm single obviously,

1097
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: and I didn't think anyone that was cute, I'd be like,

1098
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: take me back, where's the boat?

1099
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Do you know? What happens though? You get a bit

1100
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: of jungle fever where it's like you.

1101
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: An airport crush. Yes, it's likersh.

1102
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a workplace crush. But you're with

1103
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: the same people constantly, and you start to low eas standards.

1104
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: Because you're like you are the only one here single okay.

1105
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: Everyone, it's like the world has ended and you're like, oh,

1106
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: all right, maybe you maybe come on come here in

1107
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: production someone found sound.

1108
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: Guy come to the dunny to fucking drop Dunny. Let's go, Okay,

1109
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: what was the biggest drama out there? Was there? What

1110
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 2: was the most explosive event that led to an argument,

1111
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: even if it didn't involve you directly, What do you

1112
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: think was the biggest like what the fuck?

1113
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: So there was dramas out there that happened sort of

1114
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: between the guys with like the hat burning for context,

1115
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: there was a guy who burnt one of my friend's hats,

1116
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: like his cowboy hat on day one, like put it

1117
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: in the fire, and that was kind of like a

1118
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: reasoning but just to be LaSalle, Yeah, look, he's got

1119
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: his own reasoning that he's put out there, but who

1120
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: knows if that's true. His reasoning was to bring more

1121
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: attention and it was going to be a fun little

1122
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: jab and blah blah, blah, But realistically it was he

1123
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: wanted his five minutes of fame and wanted to do

1124
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: chaotic things to get TV time. Yeah that's my opinion anyway,

1125
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: and he listens to this, I don't give a fuck,

1126
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: but no, I think the biggest explosive the explosive ones

1127
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: were probably between me and some other people, just because

1128
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm a fiery person and I've also got ADHD, so

1129
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: I really struggle with emotional control. And when you're out

1130
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: there starving and like stressed and someone sort of starts

1131
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: pushing your buttons, it is really hard to contain your emotions.

1132
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: The boys didn't really struggle with that too much because

1133
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: a lot of them are sort of like walking game bots.

1134
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: But I'm an emotional person, Like I.

1135
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: Know you're you're not like a game player, and that.

1136
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Since I told everyone's from day one, I think on

1137
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: on day one or day two, I was complaining about

1138
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: something huge as.

1139
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: Usual actually would be so fucking sigamy.

1140
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Myles was like, oh, Logan, blah blah blah,

1141
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: this is solution, and I was like, Miles, I don't

1142
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: want a solution. I just wanted to complain about it.

1143
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: He's like, valid, yeah, I was like, thank you. It

1144
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: is I think everyone understood that. Sometimes I would have

1145
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: a little outburst. I wouldn't say outburst. I would get

1146
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: a bit frustrated about something and I just like, yeah,

1147
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I just need to.

1148
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: Get all the time. And it's like you guys, just yeah.

1149
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: And then people mistook that as, oh, she needs a solution,

1150
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: we're in trouble and blah blah. And most of the

1151
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: people that had been there with me for a long

1152
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: time just was like, oh, no, she just needs to

1153
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: be like that, and then she's all good and then

1154
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: it's like her head comes down a little bit. So

1155
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: it's just like I need to get off my chest.

1156
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: But there were times where you just get pushed too

1157
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: hard and you're stressed, and you come back from a

1158
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: really long night a tribal council. It goes for like

1159
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: three hours. You're tired as how someone that you loves

1160
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: just being voted out. It puts you in a ship

1161
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: position and then someone's yapping away. Like when people don't

1162
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: have the sort of emotional understanding to understand how someone

1163
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: feels in that social context, it is really hard to

1164
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: control yourself. Yeah, because if you come back, you're devastated

1165
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: and someone's like, here, I'm so happy that move worked out. Well,

1166
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: you're like time and place, like, just stop talking right

1167
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: now so I can have a moment so I don't

1168
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: snap and rip your head off.

1169
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: Are there moments where you hinder your reaction because you

1170
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: know that it's going to be going on TV and

1171
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: you're like, fuck, I actually can't act that way?

1172
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. There's times that you have to really

1173
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: rain yourself in, but that's what you have confessionals for.

1174
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: So when it's just you the camera guy, the producer

1175
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: just asking questions and you get to explain your side

1176
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: of the story, that's when you can let Louise say

1177
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. And it's great to get

1178
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: that off your chest. But a lot of the time

1179
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: they don't use it because there's only so much you

1180
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: can put in an episode, so the viewers will miss

1181
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of context behind why I blow up about something.

1182
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: But if I just got to explain it, which I did,

1183
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: but they just didn't include it, you'd understand. But I'm

1184
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: not going to excuse myself for my behavior out there.

1185
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I was an emotional bitch, and that's fine. That's an

1186
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: emotional person that is what it is. I played a game,

1187
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: I was away from my family. I was starving on

1188
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: an island for thirty nine days. You go out there

1189
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: and you do better.

1190
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also feel like you were very authentic

1191
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: to yourself, whereas you know how there's always someone that

1192
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: plays the villain almost Yeah, it's do you think it's

1193
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 2: a character that there's.

1194
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: Definitely character like, there's definitely people that try and put

1195
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: on characters, but I think a.

1196
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Lot of that piss me off. Yeah.

1197
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: A lot of them went out early because it's like

1198
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: people don't like the characters. But it's also like a

1199
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 1: lot of the characters that sort of went through towards

1200
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: the end, they didn't last very long doing this character stuff.

1201
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Because you lose I it was on a couple of seasons.

1202
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: George of King, Yeah, he's actually is that really great

1203
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: in person? In person, he's fantastic. I watched his seasons before.

1204
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: But he knows how to work TV. He was like

1205
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: the shit that fuck the thing is like, that's him.

1206
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: He's been entertaining for you and he knows sort of

1207
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: what to put on and what draws the cameras and

1208
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: how to get himself on all the confessionals and be

1209
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: the sort of the frontman of the show that was

1210
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: a character that was a character. Yeah, he's great in

1211
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: person and he just knows he knows.

1212
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: His angles absolutely were there. You obviously created some amazing

1213
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: friendships on that show, and I like being a friend

1214
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: of yours. I see you still catch up regularly with

1215
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: these people. Are there people from your season that you like?

1216
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: You say when people get voted out or a lot

1217
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: of things aren't personal, it's a game. But are there

1218
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: people that you actually really don't like that you are

1219
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: in the season and you're like, I don't care, what

1220
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: was a game? I don't want to be anywhere here.

1221
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think there are people out there that you

1222
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: really they show their true colors, and there's not a

1223
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: lot of them at all. Yeah, And there's definitely people

1224
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: that I, if I have a choice, never speak to again.

1225
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because it's like if you're in a setting, not

1226
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: even on a show, and you're in a group with

1227
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: that many people, there's going to be people that, yeah, like,

1228
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't like you all.

1229
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: I think the thing as well is like imagine just

1230
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: picking twenty four random people off the street and you're

1231
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: thinking that you're.

1232
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: Going to get very random eyed pick people from like.

1233
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: Getting along with everyone as your best friend. You're not

1234
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: You're not going to best friends with their brow when

1235
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: you're going to be friends with Ma Jordie and there's

1236
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: going to be a bunch you just that grind you

1237
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: and you really don't like. It's just it's what life's like.

1238
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: It's just picking up random people, putting all together and

1239
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: say work together, make it work.

1240
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: You have like a group catch up of everyone. Have

1241
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: you ever had like a group touch up with everyone

1242
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: and the people that they're that you don't like.

1243
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: We had a group catch up after the show before

1244
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: the show aired with a bunch of Melbourne people and

1245
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: there was probably about ten of us. Was that.

1246
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: Was that the night before you actually came to that

1247
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: birthday and you were incredibly hungover because you've seen all

1248
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: your survivor friends the day before. I think it was

1249
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: that has been a couple.

1250
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: Of times that has happened. Many times that has happened.

1251
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: I was just with the survivor it was so and

1252
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 2: I'm hungover.

1253
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: We did a big catch up for the finale where

1254
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: we did a finale party and there was probably I

1255
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: want to say fifteen or sixteen of us out of

1256
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: the twenty four cast. It's really hard to get everyone.

1257
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Everyone's in different states, so it's really hard to get

1258
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: everyone together. And that was really fun. There was people

1259
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: that I hadn't even got to meet because they were

1260
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: on a different tribe and they got voted out. True,

1261
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: so there's a bunch of people that I still haven't met, Like, so.

1262
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: Weird to think we're on the same show, the same

1263
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: season and I actually don't know.

1264
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a girl who got voted our first two

1265
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: names Candy, and she looks like the coolest person in

1266
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: the world and I've never got to meet her, and

1267
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: it makes me really sad because she's.

1268
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: Like, well, girl, listening, reach out open. If you could

1269
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: READO one moment, what would it be, Oh my gosh,

1270
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: would it be getting voted out? You're like, I wish

1271
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: I had an idol.

1272
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: There's probably two I would probably redo when I found

1273
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: the idol, because me finding the idol led to me

1274
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: getting voted out. And I found it with two other people,

1275
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: and I wish.

1276
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: I didn't, But you wish you found it on your own, Yeah, and.

1277
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I technically I did, but they were there and it

1278
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: was it was a whole kerfuffle, so I wish that

1279
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And then there was another situation that I

1280
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: blew up at AJ because he blew up at me,

1281
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: and we had this huge fight and was in front

1282
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: of some other people who didn't enjoy that aspect of

1283
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: social relations where they didn't care for the back and forth,

1284
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: and that sort of turned them against me, and that

1285
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: sort of led to the start of my demise on

1286
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: the show as well. So that moment, yeah, but I

1287
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: was just really heated on, like in my emotions, in

1288
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: my feels, and I'm just not gonna apologize for me

1289
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: being me. No, never I apologize, Like this is the

1290
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: thing that you don't see, Like he blow at me,

1291
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: I blop him. They showed me blowing up on camera,

1292
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: and then two minutes later I walked up to him

1293
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: on the beach and I was like, bro, I'm so sorry.

1294
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: I was like I was, I was so in my

1295
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: field and we're like, we hug it out and don't

1296
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: show any of that.

1297
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm on.

1298
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: Good terms with pretty much everyone from there. Yeah, that's

1299
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: probably one of the things that I wish.

1300
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 2: Would you ever do it again?

1301
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I would one hundred percent do it again. I mean,

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00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm really nervous because JLP has just been exited from

1303
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: the show.

1304
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been want to ask you about that.

1305
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: So he was exited.

1306
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: He's the host, by the way, the host JP is

1307
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 2: the host.

1308
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: He has been the host of the entire new season

1309
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: of Australian Survivor. So there was two seasons in the

1310
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: early two thousands that flopped and then he started back

1311
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. I want to say, and he's been amazing.

1312
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: He's the American host. Are like Australian American versions of him?

1313
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're literally And he he is just killing it

1314
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: so much, and he really cares about the show and

1315
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: the contestants and the direction of the show and making

1316
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: sure that it's not too influenced by production. And she's

1317
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: really keeping it authentic. So letting him go in.

1318
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: She just seems like a good guy even when you're watching,

1319
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: Like he came up.

1320
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: To us at the airport and was like, hey, girls, Hey,

1321
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: were you just on Survivor? And I was like, oh,

1322
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: firsty hat? But he was amazing. So I'm really I'm

1323
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: nervous about the longevity of the show because the fans

1324
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: are so loyal.

1325
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 2: To him and in case anyone didn't realize he actually

1326
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: got blinds heirted like, yeah, blindsided is like the Survivor term.

1327
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 2: Obviously when you get voted out and you were aware

1328
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: of it. He made some big posts. I actually read it,

1329
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: like I actually did, I read it. I read it

1330
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: the whole thing. But yeah, he obviously didn't know he

1331
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: was going to be fired.

1332
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was really it was really disappointing, I

1333
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: think for a lot of the cast, because a lot

1334
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: of us are huge Survivor fans and he's one of

1335
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 1: the reasons that we're a fan of the show because

1336
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: he makes it like, he makes the show what it is.

1337
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: It's just fixing something that's not broken.

1338
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that's yeah, it's it's yeah, it's it didn't need

1339
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: to happen. I don't think personally, but I guess they'll worry.

1340
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: Is is that there's such a loyal fan base for

1341
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: JLP that I'm worried it's going to tank the show.

1342
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping it doesn't because I'd love another chance

1343
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: and all stars, So please don't tank it before I

1344
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: can come.

1345
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: And you want it to be the same, like it

1346
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: was a great experience, you wanted to do.

1347
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I mean the host that they have

1348
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: lined up, David Ginnett.

1349
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: The previous play.

1350
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: He's played two times Australian.

1351
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: I know him.

1352
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: He won his second season, then he Golden God. He

1353
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: then won Deal or o'deal Island where he won like

1354
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: nine million dollars, and then he's come back and he's

1355
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: playing Australia versus the World, which is going to be

1356
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: airing soon.

1357
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: I just don't know why they so yeah.

1358
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean he is a host, like, he works in

1359
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: TV and production and stuff like that, so I guess

1360
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: if you're going to get another spier player, like, maybe

1361
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: that's good. But I'm not sure that that direction was

1362
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: the best because everyone does love JLP, and I'm really

1363
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: worried that he will get hate or like unnecessary hate

1364
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: just because he's standing in the shoes of someone that

1365
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: everyone loves. Like if it JLP stepped down and he

1366
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: stood up for it, I feel like it would be

1367
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: a really different reception.

1368
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: And it's like it's not his fault, that fault.

1369
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm really hopeful that he either revives the show. Well,

1370
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's not dead. The show is doing fantastic.

1371
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: The ratings are doing well. They came out and said

1372
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: that wasn't but it's one of the second highest ratings

1373
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: now last season, So I really don't know why they

1374
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: chose to do that. And I'm really hopeful that David

1375
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: really has a great spin on the game and cares

1376
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: as much as JLP does and continues the beautiful game

1377
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: and Survivor, because I would love a second shot, and I.

1378
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: Would love a first And is he wants to go

1379
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: get we'll go on?

1380
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: Can we go on blood versus Water?

1381
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: I'd love to go on with someone that you pretend

1382
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: you don't know but.

1383
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: You do know. Well, yeah, well I was on my season.

1384
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: There was a guy from Bulldogs who was nearly oh

1385
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: he was gonna be cast and he had to turn

1386
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: it down and he was gonna be on Braun And

1387
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: I was like, best do you do that? We could

1388
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: have been like working in tandem.

1389
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: Literally, what was the first thing you ate when you

1390
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: got out?

1391
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: Well, so when we get out, we go straight to

1392
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: the jury villa. So because I made jury. So for

1393
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: everyone listening that doesn't understand the sort of the dynamics

1394
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: of Survivor. Once you get to a certain point in

1395
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: the game, when you've merged tribes and there's only ten

1396
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: twelve of you left. It gets to the top ten,

1397
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: and the top ten once they get voted out, instead

1398
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: of going home, they go straight to the jury bench.

1399
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: And then the jury is made up of everyone who's

1400
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: voted up and then the top two. You then decide

1401
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: as a jury individually who gets your vote. So I

1402
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: went onto the jury, so I stayed the entire time.

1403
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: So my first meal was in Jury Villa, and I

1404
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: got slaughtered in Jury Villa. Everyone was really mad at

1405
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: me when I came out. There was just a lot

1406
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: of back and forth about she said this, and she's

1407
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: said that, and so okay, we're yeah, it was like

1408
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: half of it wasn't true and it was just in

1409
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: their fields. And I just voted one of my best

1410
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: friends out and she was mad at me, and I

1411
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry, babes again and I think I

1412
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: mean we got we kind of cleared the air pretty quickly.

1413
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: But all I ate.

1414
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: The first thing I ate was a really moist carrot cake,

1415
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: because carrot cake is my favorite, just so good. I

1416
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: love crame cheese icing, yes, obviously dah. But then yeah,

1417
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: I just had really normal meals in the Juruvilla, like

1418
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: they didn't have much in there, so I had a

1419
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: lot of like veggiemie and cheese toasties and then I

1420
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: can't remember what I had when I got back to Australia.

1421
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I think my first meal at the airport was macas

1422
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: me some nuggets.

1423
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah I had.

1424
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: I had a cheeseburgers and nuggets and a thick shake

1425
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: and a coke.

1426
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: Gotta do it, absolutely, And how was seeing your kids

1427
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: and your husband? It was weird.

1428
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: My husband and my husband was amazing. I actually got

1429
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: a call to my husband while I was in the

1430
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: show and I was like the most emotional moment. I

1431
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: was like breaking down. I was like, they really voted

1432
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: me out, baby. But seeing my kids was a bit funny.

1433
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: So Lola, my oldest who's five, she was four at

1434
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: the time, she came, stayed up late to pick me

1435
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: up from the airport and gave me a cuddle and

1436
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: she was just a bit not stand offish. I mean,

1437
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: when you're four and your mum's been away from two

1438
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: months and you've just had dad, it's like, oh, I

1439
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: love you, but oh daddy. And my son didn't want

1440
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: to know me for a week.

1441
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: He was like it would have been so sad.

1442
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: It hurt my heart so much anything. I tried to

1443
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: cuddle him and help him out, and he's like, no, daddy,

1444
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, so that was pretty devastating.

1445
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just it was beautiful to see

1446
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: them again. But it was kind of just like weird

1447
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: to just go from this insane life and the constant

1448
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: pressure you miss it. Yeah, I mean, it was like

1449
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: it was go, go go. It was so fun all

1450
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: the time. All the challenges were so intense and interesting,

1451
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: and you push yourself to your absolute limits and then

1452
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: you get on a plane and then you're like, and

1453
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: here's your regular life again.

1454
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1455
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: Before yeah, and I'm like I didn't know what to

1456
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: do for days, and then we just booked a trip

1457
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: to Bali and then we came back, and then we

1458
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: booked another trip to Bali and I was again, I

1459
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: was like, I need to get back to the traffics.

1460
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: What am I doing here? But then sort of gradually

1461
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: fall back into the normal step of life. But it

1462
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: was really weird coming back.

1463
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: To the world would be well, thank you so much

1464
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: for coming on. We loved hearing it. I love hearing it.

1465
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: We're going to go have a bin and probably talk

1466
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: more about Thank you so much.

1467
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: For having me and everyone tune into is this new podcast.

1468
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing. I can't wait to see

1469
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: the next few guests.

1470
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we love you so much. We're off

1471
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: to have a winey bye.