1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: If it's in with that. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Todd Sampson, Well, we know every series of body Hack 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: that he does, his wife tells him at the end 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: of it, please honey for the family. 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: That's no more. But he's already planning his next one. 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: It's great to. 7 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: See he's back again with another series. 8 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: On Channel ten. 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: Hello, I love everyone. 10 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my wife doesn't say that. She actually 11 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 4: she has two words. She always says the same thing. 12 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 4: Life insurance. 13 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 5: Can you get life insurance? 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Though? 15 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 5: When you do this kind of thing for living, don't 16 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 5: they limit you? 17 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 4: No, I can get the life insurance. There was a 18 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: I think I told you the story a while back 19 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: where I tried to get Barry Grills's life insurance and 20 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: they looked at they looked at the content on my 21 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 4: show and they said, no, beeping. 22 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Way, Wow, Toddy. 23 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 6: The thing is, I mean, I know it channel ten 24 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 6: because there has been some redundancies there. I think they 25 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 6: actually said, well, if Todd goes missing, Todd goes missing. 26 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: That's OK. That'll that'll just be another number there. 27 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: That's awful. 28 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Toddy, tell me about. 29 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 6: The research that went into the new series, Because every 30 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 6: time you do one of these, it steps up again 31 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 6: and you've got to go out and find and your 32 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 6: team has to find the stories that you cover here. 33 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: So tell me what you go through here. 34 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: Well, first, I carry around a list of on my phone, 35 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: a list of cultures, societies, groups of people that I'm 36 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: interested in. So there's probably forty different groups yep. That 37 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: So the first thing is I need to be genuinely interested. 38 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: Then the second filter is do they have something that 39 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: they offer that people can learn from that an audience 40 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: can learn from young, old, male, female, you know, cross sections. 41 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: So that's the second filter, and then then you start 42 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: whittling it down and then you start seeing if you 43 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: can get access, you can get local fixers on the 44 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: ground that are really good, and then that's how that 45 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: process unfolds. So it's it's complicated. But in this case, 46 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: for example, with Vudoo, we saw a documentary. We saw 47 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: a documentary on Voodoo that was on Netflix. So then 48 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: we immediately and looked at their fixer, because the on 49 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: the ground fixer makes a breaks feature filmmaking sure make 50 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: or Break documentary Breaking And we found the fixer who 51 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: was a bold and priestess and she turned out to 52 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: be a major character in our film. 53 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: And that opened the door. 54 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: Can you just explain to people the fixer? Now, the 55 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: only reason I know about this job now I'm watching 56 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: on SBS this is zero zero zero, which is to 57 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: do with the Mexican and Italian drug cartels and stuff 58 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: like that. There's always a fixer, serah. So there's someone 59 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: who just knows they've got a network of everybody Toddy, 60 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: is that correct? And they know that's to fix anything 61 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: that you need, anything that. 62 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: We need, and most importantly, they get access. And in 63 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: each country there are well known fixers. When we were 64 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: in Ethiopia filming the Tribes in Ethiopia, the fixture we 65 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: used was the same fixer who did Anthony Bourdain. 66 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: He did, he does everyone. 67 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: It's like he's like the mafia fixers and they have 68 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: the ability. 69 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: To get into. 70 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: Toddy breaking up. They're bigger. 71 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 5: I mean he's frozen on a lovely picture. 72 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got your back. 73 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Sorry she was actually yeah, keep going, tom No. 74 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: We've lost Todd there. But we might just do our 75 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: traffic and we'll come. We'll read. 76 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 3: You just right. I'm gonna go to it. I'm gonna 77 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: go to a different room. 78 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Kay, Yeah, interview, I don't actually just on the feet. 79 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: I mean I could go, I could go outside, crazy 80 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: idea and just on the fixer. 81 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: Who would be Australia's fixed there, Christopher Pine or who 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: would you go through for Australia's fixer? 83 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. Who would be a really good 84 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: fixer in Australia. There'd be a lot of them, I'm sure. 85 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, But because there who did we use that film 86 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: once in Australia. 87 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: I don't know who. I can't remember who we use. 88 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: It's different here because you can call people and you 89 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: can make connections in contacts. But in Africa, or in 90 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: West Africa or in Gaza, you eat your fixer. 91 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: Your fixer can keep you alive and they can keep 92 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: you from being. 93 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 5: Is it like undercover? Is that what you're saying, it's 94 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 5: like an undercover job? Or does everyone know who a 95 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 5: fixer is? No? 96 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: They're often well known. 97 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 4: For example, in the fourth episode of this series, which 98 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: is not going to air, that fourth episode was filmed 99 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: in Rio, and it happened when COVID broke So we 100 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: were in the we were in the slums of Rio 101 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: and I was about to do somba, which is what 102 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: a lot of the people in the slums used to 103 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: get out of poverty, and so we were filming in 104 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: these slums. They're quite dangerous and well known for being dangerous. 105 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: And our fixer while we were there, he said, we 106 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 4: have a problem, yep, and that problem is COVID. And 107 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 4: at the time I was with an axe murderer. He 108 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: was the former head of the favela and he carried 109 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 4: an axe around to enforce and I was interviewing this 110 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: guy and COVID broken and as we were walking through 111 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: the favella, people were coughing cod at us, and the 112 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 4: guy had decided that we were too dangerous as a 113 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: film crew to be in the favelas. So our fixer 114 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: pulled us aside, and the fixer said, if you disobey 115 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: and you go back in the favelas, you may never 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 4: come out again. 117 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: Wow, get out of there now. So we went. Time 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: to go, letting go. 119 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 7: If you were hear the next and you die from 120 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 7: cohe tony what I love about show, and we were 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 7: I was showing the kids this the other day on 122 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 7: TV because. 123 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 6: It's that moment where the science versus the actual practical 124 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 6: experiment should work, but there's a danger involved. So it 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 6: was the moment where you built the wrecking ball. Now, 126 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 6: the numbers said that the wrecking ball, if swung like this, 127 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 6: should not hit you, But the actual practical side of 128 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 6: you standing there while a steel wrecking ball is coming 129 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 6: to your face was just amizing to watch. Have you 130 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: got any moments like that? 131 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: Oh, there's so many of those moments, as you know. 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: I mean remember the AK forty seven. That one was 133 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: really scary. So I'm in the swimming pool and these 134 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: guys had never done this before. They had built a. 135 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: Contraption for it, and they're trying to film. 136 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: It underwater, so they're firing it and on camera they 137 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: pulled me aside and say, look, we have a problem. 138 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: Have a look at this, and they show the bullet 139 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: is traveling through the water. 140 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: But it's going up. 141 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 4: It's going up, And so their fear was the bullet, 142 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: if shot could potentially come out of the water and 143 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: hit me in the face. Ah geez. So then you 144 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: so I'm going, okay, Well that's the downside. 145 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely a negative. 146 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 4: So in the end, I just I go with the 147 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 4: laws of physics, which say Yeaton should stop this bullet 148 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: before it's me. 149 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: I stood just on three meters just earlier than three 150 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: meters in front of the AK forty seven. The guy 151 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: gets it. 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: He's got a string attached to the thing. I'm standing there. 153 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: You know, my head just you know, my head is 154 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 4: like above water, but everything else is underwater. The AK 155 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: forty seven is underwater. And the guy pulls back and 156 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: he says, are you ready? And I looked at him, 157 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, oh God. 158 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: And I looked I looked up as if I was 159 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: as a non religious person. I don't know who I 160 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: was praying to. 161 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: But and I said, I'm ready, and he pulled the trigger, 162 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: and because of the shock wave of the bullet, my 163 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: body jolt jolted, right, I jolted like this, And the 164 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: people watching thought I had been hit, They thought because 165 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: they couldn't see underwater. 166 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I hadn't been. 167 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: And how large did the bullet stop to your body? 168 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Get your son to watch it. 169 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: If you google life on the line, it's pretty close. 170 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: It's less than a meter before. 171 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: It went down. 172 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 173 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you gotta trust your curR. They tell you don't. 174 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to piss anyone off. 175 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: Calculation Tony. 176 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 2: We love you to death, mate, Todd Sampson's Body Hacker 177 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: premiere is seven thirty tonight on Channel ten. And really, 178 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: we were really disappointed last night. We thought you were 179 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: the Bushranger on Mask Singer, but it was so. 180 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: You know, I wish they would stop running. 181 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: I wish they would stop putting those ads at the 182 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 4: bottom of bottom right corner, like my name was up 183 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: there the whole time. 184 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: It was annoying. 185 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 7: My kids. 186 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: They're like that, I am not watching that show because 187 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 4: you are irritating out. 188 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: Of seven thirty to night on Channel ten. Body Hack. 189 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: Love you, Toddy, Thanks for coming on the show. 190 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for having mes