Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Media Show. I'm Caroline Russo filling
Speaker 1: in for Jack Howton. This week big show ahead as
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris finally fronts of media with less than a
Speaker 1: month to the US election. But it proves just one thing,
Speaker 1: the left's protection racket is truly alive and well. We'll
Speaker 1: also take a look at the sanctimonious tials rolling out
Speaker 1: the gender card and in exchange with the AFR. But first,
Speaker 1: the conflict in the Middle East continues to change, expand
Speaker 1: and intensify.
Speaker 2: It's covered in the various.
Speaker 1: Media daily and it isn't just a substance of the
Speaker 1: conflict itself, which is subject to analysis, but also the
Speaker 1: veneer given to it by the media. In the lead
Speaker 1: up to October seven, many of us were queering how
Speaker 1: that day would be commemorated or unfortunately celebrated. Similarly, as
Speaker 1: the war begins to focus on Israel's northern border with Lebanon,
Speaker 1: there's a responsibility to make.
Speaker 2: Clear that the history of that part of the.
Speaker 1: Conflict is quite distinct from the otherwise year long focus
Speaker 1: on Gaza. In their wisdom, our friends at the National
Speaker 1: Broadcast provided an updated guidance to journalists about how to
Speaker 1: describe the fastly.
Speaker 2: Heading up battlefront in southern Lebanon.
Speaker 1: Manager of Editorial Policies for News, Mark Mayley wrote to
Speaker 1: employees on the Middle East Conflict Guidelines with visions explaining
Speaker 1: how to correctly report on ongoing conflicts, confirming that we
Speaker 1: are now describing the current actions of Israel on the
Speaker 1: Lebanese side of the border as a land invasion an invasion.
Speaker 1: Peter Whiteheam CO Chief of the Executive Council for Australian Jury,
Speaker 1: said that the word land invasion was a perverse twisting
Speaker 1: of the truth. He said, the Israelis don't seek to
Speaker 1: conquer Lebanese territory, as the word invasion falsely suggests. Their
Speaker 1: ground campaign is a limited incursion to clear his Bla
Speaker 1: out of southern Lebanon, as was ordered by the UN
Speaker 1: Security Council Resolution seventeen oh one in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: You'd think the ABC would tread a little more carefully
Speaker 1: using such loaded words to describe an action which is
Speaker 1: pretty clearly defensive and which has taken place after a
Speaker 1: barrash of fire from his Bola which started on October
Speaker 1: eight and twenty twenty three. Now the left love to
Speaker 1: talk about context, but when they say context, they mean
Speaker 1: convenient and expedient context, not necessarily objective context.
Speaker 2: But that's not the end of it.
Speaker 1: On the seventh of October, Soviet Ellsworth published a piece
Speaker 1: in The Australian regarding findings made by the ABC on
Speaker 1: Birdsman Fiona Cameron in relation to the Israeli attack in Lebanon.
Speaker 1: It's reported that the ABC has made multiple changes to
Speaker 1: a story about Israel's attack on Lebanon after receiving complaints
Speaker 1: claiming the article was too sympathetic to his Blah and
Speaker 1: that it omitted relevant context and perspectives. ABC on Basman
Speaker 1: Fiona Cameron received sixteen complaints about the article titled Lebanese
Speaker 1: Australian community heartbroken over Israeli attack on Lebanon, which prompted
Speaker 1: her to examine whether the story I met the avc's
Speaker 1: editorial standards for impartiality and accuracy. Now In her report,
Speaker 1: she assessed the grievances made by complainants and they argued
Speaker 1: that the article didn't stipulate that his Bala was a
Speaker 1: list of terrorist organization and that the context for the
Speaker 1: escalation of the conflict in Southern Lebanon was unclear.
Speaker 2: The OBBOS had said in her report that it was critical.
Speaker 1: In a standalone article that when it included comments considered
Speaker 1: sensitive or contentious, the reasonableness standard requires relatively extensive efforts
Speaker 1: being made to achieve accuracy. Ms Cameron requested that the
Speaker 1: story be changed to reflect accuracy.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: This, of course follows an enlightening episode last week, when
Speaker 1: an ABC journalist embarked on a stunning display of false
Speaker 1: equivalence in asking Opposition leader Peter Dutton why his BELA
Speaker 1: was a list of terrorist organization and its flag not
Speaker 1: allowed to be flown and wasn't that hypocritical given Israel's
Speaker 1: actions had resulted in forty five thousand deaths and its
Speaker 1: flags still allowed.
Speaker 2: Those are her words, not mine here.
Speaker 1: They are groups have commented on the hypocrisy of that
Speaker 1: situation because there are no bands currently on Israeli flags
Speaker 1: being raised, despite forty five thousand people charging at the parents.
Speaker 4: Of us any well, Israel is a democracy, It's not
Speaker 4: run by a terrorist organization. Has Blow is a terrorist organization,
Speaker 4: They're a listed terrorist organization and if people are in
Speaker 4: favor of a terrorist organization, they should declare it and
Speaker 4: the authority should deal with it.
Speaker 5: What determiness.
Speaker 1: What determines the fact that as well as a terrrist organization,
Speaker 1: even though.
Speaker 4: The men, where are you from? I'm sorry which organization?
Speaker 2: ABD?
Speaker 4: ABC? So what's the question from the ABC? Just to
Speaker 4: be very clear, what was the question you asked? I
Speaker 4: want you asked the question about the listing, So I
Speaker 4: just want I want you to just ask that question again.
Speaker 3: I just sort of.
Speaker 1: Explain what what terrors?
Speaker 4: Well, I had presumed up until this point at least
Speaker 4: that the ABC supported the government's laws, and the government
Speaker 4: has passed laws supported on a bipartisan basis, but not
Speaker 4: by the ABC. It seems in relation to the prescribing
Speaker 4: or the listing of a terrorist organization. HESBLA under Australian
Speaker 4: law is a listed terrorist organization. Now, if the ABC
Speaker 4: doesn't support that, they should be very clear about it,
Speaker 4: because I think that's quite a departure. But you asked
Speaker 4: me why why why our country has listed hesblah. They're
Speaker 4: a terrorist organization that they organized terrorist attacks. And if
Speaker 4: that is not clear to the ABC, then I think
Speaker 4: the ABC is in greater trouble. And even I first imagined.
Speaker 6: That was a great question.
Speaker 2: That was extraordinary.
Speaker 1: But what is clear is that there's an activist for
Speaker 1: you within the ABC that is actively anti Israel and
Speaker 1: sympathetic apparently to anyone who isn't Israel, and it appears.
Speaker 2: To pollute its reporting.
Speaker 1: Joining me on the panel this week is The Australian's
Speaker 1: Darren Davidson and Sky News contributor James Bolt. Darren, I
Speaker 1: know there are occasionally circumstances where guidelines are given around
Speaker 1: the publication of certain types of information. You know in
Speaker 1: your experience, what's really important to consider when you're putting
Speaker 1: together those sorts of guidelines.
Speaker 6: The objective should be neutral, balanced, facts based journalism, objective reporting. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: the ABC has a pretty patchy record on the conflict
Speaker 6: in the Middle East, and there's been a series of incidents,
Speaker 6: the one with Peater Dutton being the most recent, and
Speaker 6: in fact the ABC actually distanced itself from that interview
Speaker 6: at that event and said it wasn't a piece of
Speaker 6: reporting and they didn't take that position that reported Turkey
Speaker 6: in the interview Repeater Dutton. But too often I think
Speaker 6: what we see is that the obc's reporting is very
Speaker 6: sort of sympathetic to a narrative on one side of
Speaker 6: the conflicts and will too easily, you know, take the
Speaker 6: side of sympathizers, boosters and media outlets and add least
Speaker 6: like Olgazera for example, which quite partisan, and the social
Speaker 6: media accounts of journalists that are quite pro one side
Speaker 6: of the conflict. And it's something that we've seen time
Speaker 6: and time again over the last twelve months or so
Speaker 6: now just over twelve months.
Speaker 1: And James is such a new once set of circumstances
Speaker 1: in southern Lebanon. But using a word like invasion without
Speaker 1: the context and the history sitting behind it really feels
Speaker 1: like fuel on the fire.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the kind of reporting you do when you
Speaker 7: think there's only one side to a conflict. And I
Speaker 7: honestly feel that conservatives and liberals are just we just
Speaker 7: end up playing whack a mole with the ABC. The
Speaker 7: mole of ABC bias pops up, we whack it and
Speaker 7: it disappears back into a machine, biding its time until
Speaker 7: it can show itself again. And I think the only
Speaker 7: way out of this situation is if the coalition front
Speaker 7: up and say we should privatize the ABC. There's simply
Speaker 7: no reason for it to keep going because of the
Speaker 7: buyers it has and also just the media landscape is
Speaker 7: completely different. We're just destined to just have these stories
Speaker 7: come up of us getting angry at the ABC, them
Speaker 7: going away, coming back with even more biased until we
Speaker 7: can finally start to privatize the ABC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there are plenty of people at home
Speaker 1: nodding their heads in agreement the James Now. Last week,
Speaker 1: the AFR published a side story to the AFRs Afar
Speaker 1: magazine's Power List Now. The yarn related to a legrispender
Speaker 1: apparently attending the afr's officers in Parliament House to request
Speaker 1: that Simon Holmes the Court be removed from the list
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to be on it. Apparently that
Speaker 1: didn't come as a surprise to our friends at the AFR,
Speaker 1: because a staffer of Zoe Daniel had already run the
Speaker 1: AFRs officers with the same request. AFR declined, obviously, but
Speaker 1: it didn't end there. Later, Miss Daniel released a missive
Speaker 1: about the incident, in which he takes a swing at
Speaker 1: the AFR, suggesting that the call was made out of
Speaker 1: a concern that the paper plan to imply in its
Speaker 1: power liss that Simon Holmes the Court holds a position
Speaker 1: of male power over female community independence on the crossbench.
Speaker 2: It goes on to say it's a sexist.
Speaker 1: Trope that fails to recognize the rise of independence is
Speaker 1: a reflection of powering communities or power of communities.
Speaker 2: My apologies, and I.
Speaker 1: Would encourage the media, particularly the male reporters at the AFAR,
Speaker 1: to update their attitudes to women in leadership. Well, the
Speaker 1: irony is that everything that is apparently implied by the
Speaker 1: paper is what the rest of us can see with
Speaker 1: our lying eyes. The reporters at the AFAR don't need
Speaker 1: to necessarily update their attitudes to women.
Speaker 2: The teals just need to go easy on the revisionism.
Speaker 1: This would have to be one of the most self
Speaker 1: serving and stunning uses of the gender car I have
Speaker 1: ever seen.
Speaker 2: Anyway, here we are, Darren. Look, we've all watched the
Speaker 2: rise of the tials. Look this carry on.
Speaker 1: About local gows winning their seats off their own steam
Speaker 1: and gold coin donations.
Speaker 2: It's a bit cute, isn't it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, your gender discrimination is a really serious issue,
Speaker 6: and I think the antics of the tials risks turning
Speaker 6: issue into a laughing stock. I think the other point
Speaker 6: to make about all of this is that the irony
Speaker 6: of the intervention about a secret list that the Financial
Speaker 6: Review rightly keeps it as a closely guarded secret until
Speaker 6: they actually publish that list. It's that some people may
Speaker 6: now be more prone to thinking that the Tills we're
Speaker 6: doing the bidding of a rich man than they were before.
Speaker 6: And they kind of inevertently you put a spotlight on
Speaker 6: something that would have been missed by everybody else ordinarily,
Speaker 6: so bit of an amateur hour kind of intervention from them.
Speaker 6: And as I said as well, I think you know
Speaker 6: it's a serious issue gender discrimination and it's not exactly
Speaker 6: modeling good behavior for one gender by behaving like that,
Speaker 6: and you know, kind of chrome wolf about sexism at
Speaker 6: the first hints of criticism.
Speaker 1: James, Look, there's a whole heap of carry on in
Speaker 1: the statement about miss Daniel apparently not knowing the call
Speaker 1: was made, and that it was made by a former
Speaker 1: staffer who's now a casual consultant.
Speaker 2: That doesn't really make it go away, right, it's still
Speaker 2: a yarn.
Speaker 7: No, No, Zoe Daniels, Right, this is all a complete coincidence.
Speaker 7: We have this casual consultant, out of the goodness of
Speaker 7: their heart, calling up the AFR and just saying, hey,
Speaker 7: can you do this donor to my boss a favor,
Speaker 7: completely coincidentally. And then when they get told and an
Speaker 7: even bigger coincidence, Alegraspender herself comes down and says, can
Speaker 7: you please get Simon Holmes Accord off the list? These
Speaker 7: are just all complete coincidences. They're great coincidences. It's as
Speaker 7: big a coincidence as all of these independent MPs linking
Speaker 7: together in a way that kind of often reflects the
Speaker 7: values of Simon Holmes the Court and voting against the
Speaker 7: interests of the Liberal Party also completely coincidental. And to
Speaker 7: be honest, I hope this is a coincidence because if
Speaker 7: it isn't, Simon Holmes at Court wanted to downplay how
Speaker 7: much covert power he operates in Australian politics by asking
Speaker 7: a democratically elected member of Parliament to go to a
Speaker 7: paper to ask them to change reporting. Not exactly how
Speaker 7: I would say you should downplay your power by having
Speaker 7: a federal MP save you a phone call. But I'll
Speaker 7: tell you what if Simon Holmes the Court does want
Speaker 7: to say, look, I'm not powerful, You're completely overcooking it.
Speaker 7: I'm not the kind of guy, you think I am.
Speaker 7: I think the best thing for him to do would
Speaker 7: be to stop donating to any tl MP in the
Speaker 7: next election. Let them show that they can get elected
Speaker 7: on their own merits and their own work in the community,
Speaker 7: and that will show that Simon Holmes Court is a
Speaker 7: complete nothing.
Speaker 2: Couldn't have said it better myself.
Speaker 1: Look, we'll take a break and when we're back, Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris finally fronts the media, but it just proves the
Speaker 1: left protection racket is alive and well, welcome back. Now
Speaker 1: the US presidential election is fast approaching and Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: is finally out and about doing interviews. Well, I say interviews,
Speaker 1: but they're more like word cuddles on camera, like this
Speaker 1: one with Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 8: You first became the nominee and named Tim Walls as
Speaker 8: your vice president nominee. People are calling it the vibe election.
Speaker 8: Every Well, the vibes were all good, but elections I
Speaker 8: think are one on vibes because one of the old
Speaker 8: saws is they just want somebody they're can have a
Speaker 8: beer with. So would you like to have a beer
Speaker 8: with me? So I can tell people what that's like. Okay,
Speaker 8: this was Now we asked ahead of time, because I
Speaker 8: can't just be given a drink to the vice president.
Speaker 8: I says, let's ask me. You asked for Miller Filo.
Speaker 8: I'm just curious.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 9: The last time I had beer was at a baseball
Speaker 9: game with Dougs.
Speaker 8: There you go, ooh, it's like a beautiful city of Milwaukee.
Speaker 2: Give me strength, hardly hot hitting. Well, this one with
Speaker 2: the view.
Speaker 9: Would you have done something differently than President Biden during
Speaker 9: the past four years? There is not a thing that
Speaker 9: comes to mind in terms of and I've been a
Speaker 9: part of most of the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 9: The work that we have done, For example, capping the
Speaker 9: cost of insulin at thirty five dollars a month for
Speaker 9: our seniors is something I care deeply about about allowing
Speaker 9: Medicare to negotiate drug prices and bring the cost of
Speaker 9: prescription medication down for seniors. But my intention is to
Speaker 9: expand that for all Americans. The work we have done
Speaker 9: to invest in American industries, whether it be in terms
Speaker 9: of manufacturing and creating almost eight hundred thousand new jobs
Speaker 9: around manufacturing, those are all a shared priority.
Speaker 2: Nothing she would have done differently, huh not?
Speaker 1: The wide open southern border, spiking illegal immigration, the flood
Speaker 1: of fentanyl, or the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: Interesting flex.
Speaker 1: I assume she's just hoping the audience isn't that politically
Speaker 1: engaged and hasn't noticed the fact their standard of living
Speaker 1: in the US has nose dive in the.
Speaker 2: Last three years.
Speaker 1: But to be fair, in the interview Kamala Harris did
Speaker 1: with sixty minutes, there were parts where she was pressed
Speaker 1: for answers and it just shows her like a match fitness.
Speaker 5: I've been covering the border for years and so I
Speaker 5: know this is not a.
Speaker 10: Problem that started with your administration, correct, But there was
Speaker 10: an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across the border
Speaker 10: the first three years of your administration. As a matter
Speaker 10: of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump.
Speaker 10: Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as
Speaker 10: much as you did.
Speaker 9: It's a long standing problem and solutions are at hand,
Speaker 9: and from day one, literally we have been offering solutions.
Speaker 10: What I was asking was, was it a mistake to
Speaker 10: kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place?
Speaker 9: Say, the policies that we have been proposing are about
Speaker 9: fixing a problem, not promoting a problem.
Speaker 5: Okay, but the numbers did quadruple, and.
Speaker 9: The numbers today because of what we have done. We
Speaker 9: have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. We
Speaker 9: have done the flow of sentinel by half. But we
Speaker 9: need Congress to be able to act to actually fix.
Speaker 5: The problem.
Speaker 2: That was on Toddy.
Speaker 1: I love how it's now well Congress's fault anyway, That
Speaker 1: said one savvy observa.
Speaker 2: I noticed these, but.
Speaker 5: It seems that Prime Minister net and Yah who is
Speaker 5: not listening.
Speaker 9: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
Speaker 9: in a number of movements in that region by Israel
Speaker 9: that were very much prompted by or a result of
Speaker 9: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen
Speaker 9: in the region.
Speaker 5: But it seems that Prime Minister net and Yah who
Speaker 5: is not listening.
Speaker 9: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
Speaker 9: the United States to be clear about where we stand
Speaker 9: on the need for this war to end.
Speaker 1: That looks like a big mess. James, you're a producer.
Speaker 1: How does that even happen?
Speaker 7: It happens because CBS appeared to have put their personal
Speaker 7: advocacy at such a center point of their thinking that
Speaker 7: they're very happy to become Kamala's PR team. But there's
Speaker 7: a bigger issue here, which is that even with what
Speaker 7: appears to be selective editing, and even with the friendliest
Speaker 7: interviews that she can possibly have, these are still awful
Speaker 7: answers from an un serious candidate. I mean the clip
Speaker 7: you just played there, I wrote it down. The work
Speaker 7: we have done has resulted in movements that sounds like
Speaker 7: an AI generated LinkedIn influencer, and you wants to play
Speaker 7: the view clip and the Colbert clip. And I thought
Speaker 7: that view clip was very telling because she's asked, very clearly,
Speaker 7: what would you have done differently in the last four years? Now,
Speaker 7: keep in mind Kamala Harris is trying to put herself
Speaker 7: as the change candidate. Her phrase is we can't go
Speaker 7: back now. For her to say that she wouldn't have
Speaker 7: done anything differently over the last four years is a
Speaker 7: complete reversal of that entire thinking. So she's given a
Speaker 7: couple of hours to reassess, Okay, what else do I
Speaker 7: want to say? What else would I have done? And
Speaker 7: she goes on Stephen Colbert and she's asked again, what
Speaker 7: would you have done differently and she still can't come
Speaker 7: up with anything. It is mind boggling how bad she
Speaker 7: is at friendly interviews.
Speaker 1: The thing is there, I suppose, James, is you know,
Speaker 1: she's trying to pitch herself almost as if she's been
Speaker 1: in opposition and she's going to be new and different.
Speaker 1: When you say things like I wouldn't have done everything
Speaker 1: anything differently, and I was involved in that decision making,
Speaker 1: it becomes very very difficult then to try and frame
Speaker 1: yourself as this new fresh frat face Darren. As James said, Look,
Speaker 1: she's not great at interviews. She can do the fluff,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was really interesting her face. She
Speaker 1: just looks terrified when someone presses her.
Speaker 6: She really does. I mean, this is kind of her
Speaker 6: version of Biden's twenty twenty basement campaign, safe appearances, feel
Speaker 6: good vibes, kind of vague generalities and platitudes. It worked
Speaker 6: for a time in reassuring that Democrats after they were
Speaker 6: so demoralized by what was happening with Biden towards the
Speaker 6: end there, but it's clearly not working anymore. You know,
Speaker 6: you're seeing in the battleground states that Trump is starting
Speaker 6: to make some gains. She looks like she's plateaued in
Speaker 6: the polls for the first time after having that nice,
Speaker 6: big spike after she became the nominee. I think what
Speaker 6: it kind of shows is that she's captive to the
Speaker 6: hard left of the party and her party's policies, much
Speaker 6: like Biden. And that's a big flaw because many of
Speaker 6: those policies are very unpopular. We're voters. So I think
Speaker 6: this is a bit of a turning point. And as
Speaker 6: you say, it's incredible that she you know, she can't
Speaker 6: even answer these questions with her sympavisers in the American media,
Speaker 6: which is most pretty much most of the media in America.
Speaker 6: It's incredibly left leaning.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now, before we finish up, I want to quickly get
Speaker 1: to your stories of the week. It would be remiss
Speaker 1: of me if I didn't have tip talk back Titan
Speaker 1: John Laws, who want announced his retirement at ninety one
Speaker 1: years of age.
Speaker 2: That man has had an unmatched innings. Now, Darren, let's
Speaker 2: start with you. What's your story.
Speaker 6: It's a story from one of my own journalists. Sorry,
Speaker 6: so it's a bit self serving, but it just shows
Speaker 6: the power of having someone on the ground in the
Speaker 6: Middle East. We've got two journalists, Yanni and Liam, who
Speaker 6: actually returned last night from Israel. They were over there
Speaker 6: for the anniversary, and much like Shariot Sky, they've done
Speaker 6: some incredible on the ground reporting and this is a
Speaker 6: story that Yanni did with this tragic story, this poor
Speaker 6: father who was in the historic southern Israel city of Yaffa,
Speaker 6: really really sad tale, but there are some sort of
Speaker 6: bright spots and positive things in the story, and it's
Speaker 6: just an incredible piece on the ground reporting from Yanni
Speaker 6: and Liam, and well done to them for the incredible
Speaker 6: work they've done. And I was at Sky over the
Speaker 6: last few weeks over there on the ground in the region.
Speaker 7: And James, Yeah, so my story comes from within Hurricane Milton,
Speaker 7: which is obviously a very terrible thing, and I don't
Speaker 7: want to be making light of it, but sometimes just
Speaker 7: media stories pop up and you have to follow it.
Speaker 7: So Lieutenant Dan is a character that's gone viral on
Speaker 7: TikTok recently, and he's gone viral for a very stupid reason,
Speaker 7: and I want to make it clear I'm not endorsing
Speaker 7: the reason he's gone viral, very very stupid, but he
Speaker 7: decided that he was not going to get evacuated from
Speaker 7: Tampa in the middle of a hurricane. He was going
Speaker 7: to ride it out in that boat. You can just
Speaker 7: see behind him. Again, very stupid. Don't want to be
Speaker 7: saying that that was a good idea. But this is
Speaker 7: incredible because after the hurricane, the sorry, just before the
Speaker 7: hurricane hit, the Tampa Tampa Bay Mayor got on TV
Speaker 7: and had this to say about Lieutenant Dan as a
Speaker 7: message to everyone else.
Speaker 3: The Tampa Police Department this morning, just save Lieutenant Dan.
Speaker 3: He has been rescued and he is now in a
Speaker 3: shelter as well. So if we can get Lieutenant Dan
Speaker 3: to go to a shelter, we can get anybody to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 7: But unfortunately for the Mayor of Tampa, a reporter, Brian
Speaker 7: Ensign happened to be right near the Lieutenant Dan's boats
Speaker 7: and had this to say. He said, I know, the
Speaker 7: mayor of Tampa just setting a new press conference and
Speaker 7: Lieutenant Dan went to a shelter.
Speaker 4: He didn't.
Speaker 7: I'm standing right here and shared this incredible photo. So
Speaker 7: you know, just again, you should you should have got evacuated.
Speaker 7: But that photo that's just media. That's that's a perfect shot.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't hide that, can you.
Speaker 1: Darren Davidson, James Bolt, thank you so much for your
Speaker 1: time this evening.
Speaker 2: And that's all we have time for on the show.
Speaker 1: The Media Show will be back next Friday at the
Speaker 1: same time.