1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: On scorns Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: This is the Wader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: up tonight. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 4: The BBC forced to admit it misled viewers. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: Again in its reporting on Donald Trump, misinformation that our 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: ABC also engaged in. Daniel Wilder Michael Danby will cover 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: that and the day's other top headlines, calls for an 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: independent investigation into the ABC after it used taxpayer funds 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: to achieve platinum status with a trans lobby group. Sephanie 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Bastian will join me for more on that. The latest 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: from the US with Corey DeAngelis, including the victim playing 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: of the most inept governor in the US and that 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: is a crowded field. 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: And later in the hour, D. D. Dun Levy will 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: cover the latest royal and. 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: Celebrity news, including unhinjured attacks against Milania Trump again talking 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: about unhinged lefties losing it, features Joyless joy Read and 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: her latest paranoid delusions. 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 5: They're sort of gleeful towards sort of returning to nineteen 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 5: thirties Germany, not even the United States. Like I know 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 5: that it's real. I actually think that what those people 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 5: wanted and what Donald Trump is delivering is ethnic cleansing. 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 4: But first, more bad news for the BBC, with the. 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: British public broadcaster admitting it misled viewers by claiming that 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: Donald Trump called for Liz Cheney to be shot in 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 3: the face. In the days before the presidential election last year, 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: a presenter on BBC said that Donald Trump appeared to 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: suggest Liz Cheney should face a firing squad for her 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: stance on foreign policy. In an internal memo, BBC News 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: said its coverage had been inaccurate, but no correction was 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: ever issued publicly, and we saw this exact same lie 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: being pushed by our very own ABC. 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: Have a look. 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 6: Donald Trump certainly took that acrimonious step further with in 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 6: that interview with Tucker Carlson, describing her as a very 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 6: dumb person, a warhawk, and even raising the hypothetical, I 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 6: guess of her facing a firing squad. 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: Of course, he did no such thing. 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: Donald Trump was merely making the point that people who 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: are pro war, like Liz Cheney, are rather cavalier about 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: risking other people's lives, but they would never put themselves 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: in the firing line. Joining me now is the Institute 44 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: of Public Affairs Deputy Executive Director Daniel Wilde and former 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: Labor senator Michael Danby. Daniel, where is the correction? Where 46 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: is the apology from the ABC? Where is the clarification? 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: I won't even call it a correction, some sort of 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: a clarification about oh, maybe we didn't provide all the 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 3: context there. 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 7: Well, don't hold your breath, reader, I don't think one's 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 7: going to come funnily enough. And look, this is just 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 7: another example of how the ABC has a complete total 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 7: inability to present matters and facts and an impartial, unbiased manner. 54 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 7: And this is why their ratings are going down. It's 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 7: why Australians don't trust the ABC anymore. We've seen it 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 7: with COVID, We've seen it with the Voice to Parliament, 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 7: we've seen it with Net zero. They only ever present 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 7: one side of the story. And I just think the 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 7: reporting has gone downhill. And clearly the ABC, which was 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 7: once respected and once widely watched, it's just not the 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 7: institution that it once was. It should apologize, but it's 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 7: not going to. 63 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: Well, Michael, where's the accountability? We saw the ABC also 64 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: deliberately edit the president's comments, those January sixth comments that 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: sort of behavior led to resignations of the BBC, but 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: the ABC that hasn't even been an apology. 67 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 8: From what I understand, Reja accountability is coming, You're part 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 8: of it. Sky's ratings and the digital world is something 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 8: that faces the old focus of the ABC. Why can't 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 8: they apologize when they make a mistake. Why can't that 71 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 8: person from four Corners who did all those dreadful programs 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 8: about Cardinal pell admit that she was wrong when the 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 8: High Court came to its decision. Why can't after Chris 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 8: Kenny exposes Julian Stevens, can't they say we got it wrong. 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 8: Why can't Sarah Ferguson say that three part series that 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 8: I did on Trump was Trump Directussian and we should 77 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 8: apologize for it. That would give all of the other 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 8: things that they do more credibility, but that would be 79 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 8: balanced and not sort of the wok agenda. 80 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 4: But in some ways, Dan they don't have. 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: That reckoning and accountability because the taxpayer funded, so they 82 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: can ignore the market, that can ignore the audience plummeting, 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: that can sort of not worry about any of that 84 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: and just focus on activism as opposed to trying to 85 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: serve their charter, and they do have a charter in place, 86 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: which sets them apart from other media organizations exactly. 87 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 7: I mean the charter is a part out of the 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 7: getting public funding is saying if we're going to have 89 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 7: a public broadcast and recit debate whether that's appropriate or not, 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 7: but if you're going to have one, then they need 91 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 7: to actually serve the public. Every single Australian tax port 92 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 7: payer is forced to pay for the ABC, So the 93 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 7: ABC should reflect the diverse views of the Australian community. 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 7: And plainly they are failing. 95 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: At that the massive and I would struggle to name 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: a single conservative presenter the host I. 97 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: Mean even within just their ranks. 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: When you talk about the production teams, that the entire 99 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: editorial team, where are the Conservatives? Where are the people 100 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: representing around fifty percent of the population. Now, let's move 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: on to the number of temporary visa holders in Australia 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: that have searched to a record two point nine million. 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: Home affairs figures show an increase of around one point 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: two million since twenty nineteen. And these figures include more 105 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: than seven hundred and thirty thousand New Zealanders. And we 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: also have more than six hundred and thirty thousand students 107 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: in this country on these temporary visas well. 108 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 7: Our migration program is a scam. It is a backdoor 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 7: path to students and those on temporary visas to getting 110 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 7: permanent residency. Mainstream Autralians getting ripped off. They're paying the price, 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 7: whether it's the congestion on our social services, the higher 112 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 7: cost of housing and rants that are induced by this 113 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 7: massive migration program. Australians don't want it. Even The Age 114 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 7: and the Sydney Morning Herald, these left wing newspapers published 115 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 7: polling showing Australians want cuts to immigration. They want migrants 116 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 7: to come here who are from similar countries, those who 117 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 7: have English speaking backgrounds and have similar institutional understanding of 118 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 7: the Australian way of life and Australian values. Australians had 119 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 7: an absolute gut full of this open slather, uncontrolled mass 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 7: migration program. It's in enriching universities, it's in enriching big corporates. 121 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 7: The government loves it because it brings in revenue. Everybody benefits, 122 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 7: other than the millions and millions of mainstream Australians who 123 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 7: are paying the price. 124 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: Well, Michael the Home Affairs but also shows that of 125 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: these two point nine million temporary BESA holders, only two 126 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty eight thousand are temporary skilled workers and 127 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty thousand are tourists. And I think 128 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: those figures would surprise a lot of people because we 129 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: keep being told this line about we need to have 130 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: this mass number coming out the legit. 131 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 8: People that are here out of the two point nine million, 132 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 8: So you've got two million people here. Now, it's not 133 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 8: as raf Epstein, who Andrew Bolt exposed the other day 134 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 8: says that it's you know, you're racist because you're against migration. 135 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 8: It's because people have legitimate differences over the level of migration. 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 8: Can't you get back to the issues, raf, so you know, 137 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 8: start being an adult, and that's why your ratings have 138 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 8: crashed to under four percent on morning radio. Under four 139 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 8: Well wow, well maybe it's four point two. I'm sorry. 140 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 8: I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But the 141 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 8: point is is that you're wiping out, as Daniel said, 142 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 8: the legitimate concerns of people, even higher immigration people in 143 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 8: the past like me think it was too high, and 144 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 8: particularly the scam of international students who are in the 145 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 8: business model of the universities. It's ridiculous. They're all doing 146 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 8: many of them fake degrees, can't speak English, don't actually 147 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 8: go to the course, and you're using it as a 148 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 8: pathway to citizenship. 149 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: Why are both political parties Michael hooked on this big 150 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: Australia philosophy because yes, at the last election of the 151 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: Coalition had a lower target, but it was still pretty 152 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: high when you look at the overall figures, it was 153 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 3: not significantly different to what Labor were proposing. 154 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 8: Well, I think it's because both political parties are afraid 155 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 8: that some of the ethnic communities will say that they 156 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 8: are being racist by trying to depress the immigration figures, 157 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 8: and also because of a nostalgia for the fact that 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 8: immigration worked in the past. So you just have to 159 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 8: adjust this be adults, refocus the whole scheme, make it less. 160 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 8: I particularly think for the Liberals to say that they 161 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 8: should have less immigration but not take into account the 162 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 8: international students is a big mistake. The universities are terrible 163 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 8: places these days. They're just businesses that don't actually provide 164 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 8: higher education for students. They're just generating income for these 165 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 8: awful middle level bureaucrats who want high incomes. Some of 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 8: them more than the Prime Minister out of international student fees. 167 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: Dan, Is it that nostalgia or are they hooked on 168 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: the sugar hit to the GDP figures, not the per 169 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: capita figures but the overall figures. And this notion that 170 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: existing migrants are going to be aghast if you cut migration. 171 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: I think if you did a deep dive into that, 172 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: you'd find that no, many migrants are as concerned about 173 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: the influx of people as anyone who was born and 174 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: bread here. 175 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 7: Well, that's right, I mean, there's the issues that Michael 176 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 7: has crectly identified in terms of why they don't go 177 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 7: for it. The other thing is you're right Inflate's GDP. 178 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 7: You have more people spending more money in a bigger market. 179 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 7: Your headline GDP is bigger, so it sounds good, but 180 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 7: as you say, the per capital is actually going backwards. 181 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: Don't forget. 182 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 7: The other thing is big business are a major lobby 183 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 7: because it suppresses wages and it means that they don't 184 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 7: have to train Australians for the job, so they're basically 185 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 7: getting a bottom line benefit. Your point about migrants being 186 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 7: concerned about it if you explain it to them as 187 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 7: what will their lives of their children be like they 188 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 7: understand that the thing that recent migrants are concerned about 189 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 7: is you're going to stop their parents coming in through 190 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 7: the family vis the thing that's where the scare campaign 191 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 7: comes in. So that's what you have to manage politically. 192 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: That is true. 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: And we saw the fallout when Senator Price just enter 194 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: Price just made a comment really repeating what a labor 195 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: polster had said about the voting patterns of the Indian 196 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: community and the hysterical reaction to that. 197 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 4: Michael was quite telling. 198 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 8: Very malevolent. Penny Warm is then able to broadcast some 199 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 8: comment made by a liberal senator just before the election 200 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 8: onto Wabo and scare the people in individual electorates. It's 201 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 8: sort of the weaponizing of reverse racism that is terrible. 202 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 8: It's just like what they've the mean girls did with Renalds, 203 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 8: Linda Reynolds, Kimberly Kitching and the whole Higgins case. They're ruthless, stalinist. 204 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: But they're good at it. You know what. 205 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: It's an adversarial game politics, and I think the Coalition 206 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: need to appreciate that and actually start turning up to 207 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: the fight. Now there are calls for an overhaul of 208 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: family travel entitlements for federal politicians after it was revealed 209 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: Senator Sarah Hanson Young slug taxpayers almost three thousand dollars 210 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: for flights and accommodation to attend a Byron Bay music 211 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: festival with a relative. 212 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: Adam. Hanson. 213 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: Young also met with stakeholders and small businesses within the 214 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: festival sector, so she did have work commitments, but that 215 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: means to travel is within the guidelines. But again it's 216 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 3: as they say, does it meet the pop test? Does 217 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: it pass the pop test? 218 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 7: Well, no, it doesn't. And I'm not opposed to having 219 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 7: family reunion entitlements for MPs. I think it's important to 220 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 7: encourage one of the hard parts about being an MP 221 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 7: is time away from family. I don't oppose the concept 222 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 7: of it, but they're taking the mickey. Yeah, I mean, well, 223 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 7: going to a music fest, but well, yeah, too far, 224 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 7: go into a corporate box to watch the footy. I mean, 225 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 7: there are more sensible ways of applying this, And the 226 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 7: problem is that I suspect most MPs use this, use 227 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 7: this in a sensible way, but people like Anika Wells 228 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 7: and Sarah Hanson Young. By the way, these are the 229 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 7: social justice activists who say that you know, the top 230 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 7: end the town's getting you know too much, Well, they're 231 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 7: the ones that are ripping everybody else off and they're 232 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 7: ruining it for the people that do the right thing. 233 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: Well, Michael, but that would argue it's all within the guidelines, 234 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: so that done nothing wrong. It's an argument Anika Wells 235 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: has made, and then the Prime Minister and the treasure saying. 236 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 8: About that leaving a comp car outside the tennis for 237 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 8: ten hours is I think not just beyond the spirit, 238 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 8: but it may be beyond the law of this and 239 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 8: she'll have to pay that back hopefully. Similarly, going for 240 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 8: a feed in Paris for seventeen hundred dollars with some 241 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 8: staff I mean cross on some expensive absolutely pathetic and 242 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 8: marine Ferouki. You shouldn't forget her. She flew to the 243 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 8: disruptive rallys here in Melbourne three or four times with 244 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 8: using the family reunion thing too. So some of this 245 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 8: is boggy and should be submitted to the peaple. 246 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 3: Well, perhaps the guidelines need to be looked at, because 247 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: if all those examples you've mentioned are within the guidelines, 248 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: perhaps is the guidelines that need to be looked at. 249 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: Anika Wells has referred herself to. 250 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: The Independent Parliamentary Expenses Authority for an audit. Her spending 251 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: spree Dan was incredible. I mean, first heard about the 252 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars plus per person and that was spent 253 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: just on AirFest in New York. 254 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: I don't know who book that. 255 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Then we've got the birthday party in Adelaide that just 256 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: seemed to happily coincide with some meetings. She had planned 257 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: the family skiing trip that the taxpayer was paying for, 258 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: and as Michael said, having a com car waiting outside 259 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: the tennis waiting outside the NRL Grand Final for hours. 260 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: For her to watch it, get it to come back. 261 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: Well yeah, it seems to just be this sense of 262 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: entitlement that I think people are going to find really 263 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: quite disgusting at any time, let alone during a cost 264 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: of living crisis. 265 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 9: Well, that's right. 266 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 7: I think what's going to happen with this referral, though, 267 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 7: is they will find that it's within the guidelines, or 268 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: there might be one or two that are outside of it. 269 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 7: So she's kicked it into there to stop the media storm. 270 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 7: You're right, most of this is within the guidelines. That's 271 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 7: what this review is going to find and she knows 272 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 7: that that's why she's doing it. But the problem, as 273 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 7: you say, is the guidelines. What happens is I want 274 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 7: to go to the Melbourne Cup on a Tuesday. Therefore 275 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 7: APOOCA work meeting in on Monday. 276 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: It's not hard. 277 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: And that's why I think Attika Wells really faulted quite 278 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: spectacularly during that interview with on Sky News on Sunday 279 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: morning when she was asked about when did you know 280 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: about this birthday party? 281 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: You know what came first? The birthday party, Lanel. 282 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 8: It was devastating. 283 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: Andrew Colonel Absolutely, yeah, that was a big mistake for 284 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: her to go at B to B. 285 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: By Andrew Colonel. 286 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: She should have stuck to the ABC because he absolutely 287 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: exposed her and then she had nowhere to hide. Dan 288 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: Wildmichael Danby, thank you so much for your time. The 289 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: Family First Party is calling for an urgent independent investigation 290 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: into whether the ABC has breached its statutory charter after 291 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: it used taxpayer funds to achieve platinum status with the 292 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: trans lobby group ACON. Hundreds of businesses and government agencies 293 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: compete in acon's Workplace Equality Index, a sort of call 294 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: for its social credit system where companies earn points for 295 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: everything from providing gender neutral bathrooms and gender firming leave 296 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: to pronoun policing. The index ranks each organization out of 297 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: a score of two hundred on how they implement acon's policies. 298 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: Let's bring in Women's Foreign Australia Head of Advocacy, Stephanie Bastien. 299 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: Stephanie, the ABC has spent tens of. 300 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: Thousands of dollars, tens of thousands of our money implementing 301 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: acon's workplace demands. 302 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 10: Yes, and it's absolutely appalling. 303 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 11: I think that there needs to be a thorough investigation 304 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 11: from the board down. 305 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 10: When Kim Williams. 306 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 11: The chair of the board, took over, he said that 307 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 11: balancing diversity and impartiality was complex. Well, I'm sorry, no, 308 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 11: it's not complex. Diversity in this scenario is an ideology. 309 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 11: Impartiality would be reporting both sides of the ideology, but 310 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 11: they don't. They've written puff pieces on Michelle Telfer, but 311 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 11: they never reported on Justice Strum's damning findings that she 312 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 11: was disregarding evidence in the case of a twelve year 313 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 11: old boy that was being put on puberty blockers without 314 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 11: a diagnosis. They've posted photos supporting gender transitions. We saw 315 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 11: the picture at the start of the woman with the 316 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 11: double missectomy, Yet they've never reported on Mel Jeffries, who's 317 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 11: also had a double misseectomy and is now suing the 318 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 11: clinic that treated her. The problem is the ABC caters 319 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 11: to forty five percent of Australia's population. That is forty 320 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 11: that is millions of people that are viewing their news 321 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 11: across their platforms, and they are keeping them in the 322 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 11: dark so effectively. They are a mouthpiece for ACON and 323 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 11: they are promoting this ideology and Australians are kept in 324 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 11: the dark and they're paying for it. 325 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 10: It is absolutely appalling. 326 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: And Acon's influence, it's not just in the government sectay 327 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: in public organizations, also has enormous influence in the corporate world. 328 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: We've got the big banks, all sorts of other companies 329 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: that are signed up to this corporate social credit system 330 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: where they vy for points to show how woken progressive 331 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: they are. 332 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 10: Yeah, they've got their fingers in multiple pies. 333 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 11: They've got their fingers in education, they've got it in health, 334 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 11: they've got it in every workplace and a lot of 335 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 11: organizations have signed up to promote But as someone said 336 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 11: to me, a lot of these banks and law firms, 337 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 11: they do see the ideology as a hr nightmare, but 338 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 11: they still feel compelled to do the Purple Cupcake days 339 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 11: and all the rest of it. What it's doing, though, 340 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 11: is it's just promoting a very harmful ideology, and I 341 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 11: think that there needs to be more scrutiny on these 342 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 11: businesses and banks that are subscribing to ACON because the 343 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 11: harm that is being done to children is very real, 344 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 11: and they're going to invest in this program and they're 345 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 11: going to promote it through their businesses, then I think 346 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 11: customers should boycott. 347 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: Well. 348 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: It just shows that this entire movement, the power it has, 349 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: it's not organic. It's not some sort of grassroots where 350 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: the population has sort of changed its mind. It is 351 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: all very deliberate and well funded, often by us indirectly. 352 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: So I think that's been very interesting with the Australian 353 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: newspapers reporting on Acorn in recent days. Now let's talk 354 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: about Binary Australia spokesperson Curly Smith. She's been ordered to 355 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: pay ninety five thousand dollars in fines and also issue 356 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: a public apology after she was found to have vilified 357 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: to trans women. That's biological men identifying as women. It 358 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: marks the first time someone has been found to have 359 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: unlawfully vilified a person for being trans underneath South Wales law. 360 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: Now Curly Smith broadcast where two trans athletes had played 361 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: their matches to a social media followers. Deputy Chief Magistrate 362 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: Sharon Frowned said online posts made in bad faith that 363 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: inside hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule, regardless of the 364 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: harm it causes, cannot be disguised as political communication. Not 365 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: only is the argument baseless, it's against the law. Stephanie, 366 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: what's your view of this case. 367 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 11: I have enormous reservations and concerns about how the magistrate 368 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 11: came to these findings and draw a comparison to the Olympics. Now, 369 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 11: we've all watched the distress by female boxers when they 370 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 11: were confronted with having to play against calif and ting 371 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 11: the campaign, and the posts that so that Caraly Smith 372 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 11: put out there were not dissimilar. Was simply highlighting the 373 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 11: harms of biological men competing in women's football. That she 374 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 11: didn't name any of the players, she did share photos 375 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 11: of their teams, but her point was to present real 376 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 11: life examples of biological men competing in female sport. Now, 377 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 11: the judge didn't say that anything she had said specifically 378 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 11: incited harm, but the posts incited fear and vilification against 379 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 11: trans people, particularly these players. 380 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 10: Of course, with that then what is apparent. 381 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 11: Is that even if you don't vilify, you can be 382 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 11: found even if you're talking about this issue. So I 383 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 11: have enormous reservations about how she came to this judgment. 384 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 11: I think if we cannot talk about real life examples, 385 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 11: if we cannot present the evidence in the public or 386 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 11: in the dark, and they don't know, so I think 387 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 11: this judgment's wrong, and I really hope that she is 388 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 11: successful we able to appeal it. 389 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 4: In my mind, it is sinister because you're right. 390 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: If you can't talk about real life examples that are 391 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: happening right now, you then have the argument from the activists, well, 392 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: your concerns are unfounded. 393 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: This is all just hypotheticals. This sort of thing isn't 394 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: even happening. 395 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 3: If it is happening, it's not causing any harm. And 396 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 3: when you actually present examples and say no, there are 397 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: people who have issues with this, There are other athletes 398 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: who may have issues that maybe when it's younger people, 399 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: parents who have issues, then you can fall into being 400 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 3: accused of vilifying someone or subjecting them perhaps to ridicule. 401 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 3: This is just you wouldn't even call it censorship. It's 402 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: deeper than that. This is just suppressing facts and debate 403 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: that is necessary. 404 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: And I am just absolutely shocked. If we've got a 405 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: judgment like. 406 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: This from some other corners of the world, I think 407 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: we'd be sitting here a shocked that that could happen. 408 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: What's happening right now in our own country. Stephanie Bastian, 409 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight. Coming up, 410 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: Lefties Losing It and we'll look at the victim playing 411 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: of the most inept governor in the US, Corey DeAngelis 412 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: is coming up next. 413 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: You're watching the Riada Panecky Show, and it's time for 414 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: Lefty's Losing It. 415 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: It's a fine time to have a look at the 416 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: leftist mainstream media and workout just why trust in these 417 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: institutions is at record lows. I wonder if CNN's Jake 418 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: Tapper has any ideas on why Americans trust used car 419 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: salesman more than the media. 420 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 12: And the FBI finally announced that they had arrested a 421 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 12: suspect a suspect accused of planting pipe bonds near the 422 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 12: Republican and Democratic National Committee headquarters then before the January sixth, 423 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 12: twenty twenty one capital attack. Brian Cole Junior, a thirty 424 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 12: year old white man from the DC Suburbs, is charged 425 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 12: with transporting and explosive devise. 426 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: Ah say what now, Jake? 427 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: A thirty year old white man from the DC suburbs. 428 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: That's what she said. Is this a white man? 429 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: According to CNN, But then we shouldn't be surprised because CNN, 430 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: including Jake Tapper, push the Fine People hoax against Donald 431 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: Trump for four years, not to mention every other debunked hoax, 432 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: including the Russian collusion hoax. Also on CNN, we have 433 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: this woman, Ashley Allison claiming this individual is some MAGA 434 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: supporter and saying we're all surprised he is not white. 435 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 13: I'm just gonna I'm gonna say the thing out loud 436 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 13: that I think everyone is not saying and is actually surprised, 437 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 13: and why I think Janine Pirol is actually saying it. 438 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 13: I think the fact that this man is a black 439 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 13: man was surprising the people. I think people thought this 440 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 13: would go. 441 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 14: To be a white man. 442 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: That did this, they were going to be able to 443 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 4: say he. 444 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 13: Was a part of the progressive left. And the fact 445 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 13: that there's a black man that is saying I too 446 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 13: was susceptible to conspiracy theorists that the president and conservative 447 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 13: podcasts were pushing that this election was stolen is a 448 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 13: fact that they were not expecting. And now everyone is 449 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 13: on their heels and they're trying to spin it. 450 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: The only one spinning it is you Love and your 451 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: fellow political activists at CNN, including Abby Philip, who even 452 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: tried to push the notion that this alleged offending was 453 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: no different to January sixth political prisoners, many of whom 454 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: were guilty of nothing more than trespassing. 455 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: Watch Isabel Brown's school abbey on her own show. 456 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: I do wonder if he had been actually caught around 457 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: the time of January sixth and prosecuted, would he have 458 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: been included with in Trump's pardons. 459 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 15: I mean, okay, this is absolutely beyond the pale to me, 460 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 15: to be honest, to claim that we don't know any 461 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 15: sort of inkling of a motive of this individual, when 462 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 15: just a few months prior, there was a lawsuit ruled 463 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 15: in the Trump administration's favor against this particular individual for 464 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 15: his company seeking to let illegal immigrants out of prison 465 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 15: on bail. 466 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 2: But it's called the hypothetic individual, So it's called the hypothetical. 467 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: Had he been prosecuted alongside all of those other people 468 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: who were involved in violent acts on January sixth, would 469 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump have pardoned him? 470 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 15: No, because individuals who were why not the Capitol Building 471 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 15: on January sixth, were not planting pipe bombs. 472 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: Oh, Abby do better. 473 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: But we shouldn't be surprised by Abby philipp being a 474 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: hard lift activist. She did, after all, go on joy 475 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: Raids podcasts and agreed with pretty much everything joylists had 476 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 3: to say. 477 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: And Joy's backspewing wul venom listen to. 478 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 5: This, and you know, having been inside of a Republican 479 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: national convention and had that vibe from a senior citizen, 480 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 5: someone's grandma, but whose glee was directed towards some of 481 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: the most heinous ideas you could imagine, right, you know, 482 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 5: sort of gleeful towards sort of returning to nineteen thirties Germany, 483 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 5: not even the United States. Like I know that it's real. 484 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: I actually think that what those people wanted and what 485 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: Donald Trump is delivering is ethnic cleansing. 486 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 3: You know that woman needs a padded cell and a 487 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: straight jacket, not a microphone reminder. Joy is so loopy 488 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: and hard left that even MSNBC sactor. But for Abby Phillip, 489 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: she's a perfectly sound and let's not forget Abby Philip 490 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: also had this next. 491 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: Shrieky charlatan on her program. 492 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: Not only is Jennifer Welch uniquely awful and hate filled, 493 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: she's also a bald faced liar. 494 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who I want to remind everybody that's against 495 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: immigration is an immigrant. I just think it's really important 496 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: to remind everybody all the time that Elon Musk is 497 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: an immigrant that doesn't pay taxes, who is a parasite 498 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: off the American taxpayer. 499 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: Oh dear, every American knows Elon Musk is an immigrant, Jennifer, 500 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: But did you just claim the man who provides hundreds 501 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: of thousands of jobs and contributes tens of billions in 502 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: salaries is a parasite. The man who went into space 503 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: to rescue astronauts is a parasite. The man who sped 504 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: over forty billion to buy Twitter to help preserve free 505 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: speech it wasn't a business decision. Here's a parasite as 506 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 3: for your lives about Elon not paying taxes. 507 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: The truth is, not only does he. 508 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: Pay tax, including personal income tax, but it's the most 509 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: tax anyone has ever paid in the US, around twelve billion, 510 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: and that was just in twenty twenty one. Now to ABC, 511 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 3: and here we watch another anchor be embarrassed on his 512 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: own show, this time by Eric Schmidt, Senator for Missouri, 513 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: who points out why Democrat. 514 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: Operative George Stiffanopoulos, Well, why his show is failing in 515 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: the ratings. 516 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 16: It's been front page news across the country. Aren't you 517 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 16: curious about that? 518 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 17: Well, I'm curious about your push back on that particular point. 519 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 9: With your previous guest. 520 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 16: You had zero pushback because he's giving the Democrat talking 521 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 16: points like U spew every single week, which is probably 522 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 16: why your readings are so bad. 523 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: Now, Minnesota governor and failed vice presidential candidate Tim Walls 524 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: is continuing to whine about President Trump, calling him and 525 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: I quote seriously retarded. He claims that people are now 526 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: driving past his house calling him that wants to boo 527 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: word and that may lead to violence. 528 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 16: I'd never seen this before, people driving my pause by 529 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 16: my house and using the R word in front of people. 530 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 16: This is shameful. And I have yet to see an 531 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 16: elected official, a Republican elected official, say you're right. That's shameful. 532 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 16: He should not say it. So look, I'm worried. We 533 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 16: know how these things go. They start with tans, they 534 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 16: turn to violence. So deeply concerned. 535 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: This is the same inept governor who was wishing death 536 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: on Donald Trump not too long ago. Because I think 537 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: we've forgotten about that and that with memory hold his 538 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: comments lightning a Trump rally at Madison Square Garden to 539 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: a Nazi rally? 540 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: Do you think that could have inspired violence? Tin Walls? 541 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 16: And I think some of you don't miss on this. 542 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 16: Go do your google on this. Donald Trump's got this 543 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 16: big rally going at Madison Square Garden. There's a direct 544 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 16: parallel to a big rally that happened in the mid 545 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 16: nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden. And don't think that 546 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 16: he doesn't know for one second exactly what they're doing there. 547 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: Joining me now is American Culture Project senior fellow Corey DeAngelis. Corey, 548 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: if Tim Walls thinks he can play the victim after 549 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: overseeing the mass fraud that has occurred in his state, 550 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: then he's a bigger fool than we thought. What happened 551 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: in Minnesota is utterly shameful. 552 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 17: Yeah, look, he's trying to deflect here. He's a total failure. 553 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 17: He's a political failure, speaking of violence. He was basically 554 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 17: the death knell for the Kamala Harris campaign. They committed 555 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 17: a political suicide when they picked Tim Walls. 556 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 9: To be VP. 557 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 17: I mean, he's a who thought he was going to 558 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 17: mobilize the young male vote, for example, tampon Tim, That's 559 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 17: the perfect person to pick in order to get Trump 560 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 17: into the White House. So good job Kamala Harris campaign. 561 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 17: But yeah, in Minnesota, they had three hundred million dollars 562 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 17: that was supposed to go to kids to feed them 563 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 17: during the COVID era and it was fraudulently spent apparently. 564 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 17: So Tim Walls is obviously trying to deflect here. He's 565 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 17: clutching his pearls, you know, for him to make a 566 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 17: do a press conference about this, and oh my goodness, 567 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 17: Trump called me the R word. That only really upsets 568 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 17: you if it has a little bit of a truth 569 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 17: to it. So maybe he's admitting something personal about himself. 570 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 9: But I think the. 571 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 17: Real story here is that he's trying to deflect. He's 572 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 17: clutching his pearls, trying to point it Trump and trying 573 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 17: to whip up the base against his political opponents. But 574 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 17: you know, this responsibility falls on him. This happened under 575 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 17: his watch, with the fraud in his state, and look, 576 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 17: he's a political failure. So hopefully people will forget about 577 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 17: him sooner than later. 578 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: Well, the scale of the fraud is quite astonishing that 579 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: we're talking about a billion dollars. Now, there's figures emerging 580 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: of three four five billion, So at some point we'll 581 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: get a clear picture of how much was just squandered there. Now, Corey, 582 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about my favorite story of 583 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: the day. This is just it's almost like a comedy sketch. 584 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: This. This is the Soccer World Cup. 585 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: We know it's going to be North America in twenty 586 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: twenty six, and naturally, the leftist city of Seattle wants 587 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: to host a pride game to celebrate the LGBTQIA plus 588 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: plus community. And let's see who FIFA scheduled for this game. Yes, 589 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: it's Iran, where homosexuality is illegal and even carries the 590 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: death sentence, and Iran was drawn to play against Egypt, 591 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: another country where homosexuality is illegal and carries a prison 592 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: term of up to three years. 593 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 4: How did this happen? Corey? 594 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 9: I mean, it's beyond parody. Right. 595 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 17: That was a Daily Wire article that I read about this, 596 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 17: but I thought it was a headline from the Babylon 597 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 17: b This can't be true, can't it? 598 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 9: But look, it really reminds me of. 599 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 17: The horseshoe theory of politics, where you had the far 600 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 17: left loonies in Seattle basically siding with the far right 601 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 17: who might not be happy about countries like Iran in 602 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 17: Egypt right now, kind of locking arms on this issue. 603 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 9: But really, who kind of scheduled this? I don't know. 604 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 17: They say that it was pre scheduled and it kind 605 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 17: of just turned out this way. 606 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 9: It was a coincidence. 607 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 17: It was either a big coincidence or the far left 608 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 17: was really trying to piss off Iran An Egypt. 609 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 9: But you know, maybe Iran and. 610 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 17: Egypt will pull out of the World Cup, but no 611 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 17: one will miss them. 612 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 9: It's not like they were going far anyway. 613 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: No, I don't think they're going to be pulling out 614 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: of the World Cup. It's a pretty big deal. 615 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: The Egyptian Football Association has already sent a formal letter 616 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: to FIFA requesting this this Lgbtqia plus Pride match a 617 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: celebration at the World Cup not go ahead, so they 618 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: can just play a regular game without any of that 619 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: political messaging. 620 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 4: We'll see what happens there now. Corey told me about 621 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 4: what is What else is. 622 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: Happening in Washington State. There's female students. They're fighting for 623 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: a ballot initiative to protect girls' sports, and there's also 624 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: another initiative to strengthen parental rights after Washington State past 625 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: legislation that removed the requirement for parents to receive notice 626 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: when their children receive non emergency medical services at school. 627 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: That just seems incredible that your child could be receiving 628 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: some of medical care. I don't know, perhaps some sort 629 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: of hormones or puberty blockers, and the parents aren't advised. 630 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: What's likely to happen in these cases. 631 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 17: Yeah, the lunatics of the teachers unions are trying to 632 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 17: keep secrets from parents. And guess what, there's these two 633 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 17: initiatives that are probably going to make it onto the ballot. 634 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 17: It looks like they're going to have enough signatures to 635 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 17: restore rental rights and education and protect girl sports keep 636 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 17: boys out of girl sports. These are eighty twenty issues 637 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 17: on the side of the Republicans. Let's see if they 638 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 17: can get it done in a deep blue state controlled 639 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 17: by Democrats and teachers unions in Washington. 640 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 9: It'll be a very unique test case. 641 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 17: But the teachers union, the Washington Education Association, is the 642 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 17: main opponent of these two initiatives. They don't want to 643 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 17: put it to the ballot. They know they're going to lose, 644 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 17: so they're starting an initiative of themselves to stop people 645 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 17: from signing the sheets in order to get it on 646 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 17: the ballot in November of twenty twenty six. So there's 647 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 17: events held right now by LESCo Washington, the main group 648 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 17: in favor of protecting girls sports and printal rights and education. 649 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 17: And there was a recent event where you had high 650 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 17: school girls basically speaking out saying there was a boy 651 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 17: in my locker room. 652 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 9: This didn't make any sense and it's unsafe. 653 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 17: And so it's really a shame that the dads haven't 654 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 17: really stepped up in stronger numbers. It's a shame that 655 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 17: the girls themselves had to come out and say, you 656 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 17: know what, adult shouldn't pressure young girls to undress in front. 657 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 9: Of boys and men. I mean, this is just common 658 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 9: sense stuff. 659 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 17: But the liberal lunatics have gone so far off the 660 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 17: deep end, and the teachers' unions are dragging them down 661 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 17: every step of the way. But hopefully parents will win 662 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 17: this case in Washington and it'll laya blueprint for other 663 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 17: Blue states to go forward and do the right thing 664 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 17: as well. 665 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, Corey, I want to play this 666 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: exchange between Alex Brucewitz and a journalist at the Doha 667 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 3: Forum a few days ago. 668 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: This was all about the stolen election narrative. 669 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 18: And Alex, no matter how many times you've repeat that 670 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 18: there was a rig election, there's no evidence of that. 671 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 4: But anyway, in my question. 672 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 18: Very Confiden saying there is no evidence of a rigged election. 673 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 18: Are you familiar with a guy named Hunter Biden. Well, 674 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 18: if you're not familiar, he was Joe Biden's son, and 675 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 18: he liked to have relations with prostitutes and filming and 676 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 18: put it on a laptop. He'd liked to do crack 677 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 18: cocaine and filming and put it on a laptop, and 678 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 18: everybody in the legacy media. They said that is something 679 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 18: called Russian disinformation. It wasn't Russian disinformation. That was a 680 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 18: true laptop. Nobody in the media covered it, and if 681 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 18: you posted about it on social media, he got censored 682 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 18: and lost your account. And so after the election it 683 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 18: came out and they said, if you knew that laptop 684 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 18: was real, would you have voted for Joe Biden. Twenty 685 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 18: percent of people who voted for Joe Biden said they 686 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 18: wouldn't have done so. So if you're talking about just 687 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 18: one aspect that's called. 688 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 3: Rigging election, Corey, that isn't even begin to cover the 689 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 3: money that they spent fortifying the election. As as Time 690 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: magazine put it, tell me about this ongoing debate about 691 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty election and the many ways in which 692 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 3: that election result was influenced. 693 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 17: Yeah, I like how that questioner at the Doha Forum 694 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 17: was basically tried to slide that in there there's no 695 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 17: evidence of a rigged election. Then he tried to ask 696 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 17: some other question. Good thing on Alex for calling him 697 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 17: out and setting the record screen. I mean the New 698 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 17: York Post I remember on Twitter at the time before 699 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 17: Elon Musk was in charge and changed it over to x. 700 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 17: You couldn't even post that New York Post article. It 701 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 17: would just it wouldn't allow you to do it. So 702 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 17: that is interference in the election. And so you know, 703 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 17: it goes so many layers deeper than that. But at 704 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 17: the end of the day, I'm kind of happy that 705 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 17: Trump didn't win the twenty twenty election because now we 706 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 17: have Trump two point zero. You know, you only get 707 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 17: two four year terms in America, and so I'm glad 708 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 17: he's president right now, and he's, you know, after all 709 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 17: that's happened to him and the election being storm from 710 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 17: him in twenty twenty, he's kind of gone, you know, 711 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 17: full thritle now. And I think we've gotten even more 712 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 17: in bold than Trump than we would have beforehand. 713 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 3: I think you're right there, and you've got a fast, 714 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 3: sounder administration. He's got much better people around him. I 715 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: think one of the greatest mistakes of his first term 716 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 3: was some of the judgment calls he made in the 717 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: people he put in positions. And this time around, he 718 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 3: seems to have everyone on the same team going in 719 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 3: the one direction. 720 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: Cory D'Angelis, thank you so much for your time tonight. 721 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 9: Hey, thanks Reto. Good talking to you. 722 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: Still to come the latest unhinged attacks against Milania Trump. 723 00:39:48,480 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 3: Ddie Dunlevy is up next. Welcome back, joining me now 724 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 3: as broadcaster de d dun Levy, Diddy, Let's talk about 725 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 3: Milania Trump. They're finding new and increasingly desperate ways to 726 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 3: attack the First Lady. She has even been criticized now 727 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: online for reading to a group of young children without 728 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: showing them the pictures. 729 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 4: Did he The First. 730 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 3: Lady was at the Children's National Hospital and read how 731 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: does Santa Go down the Chimney to the children? 732 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 4: But I don't know. Some folk online were upset. 733 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, upset and really nasty. 734 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 19: I think one person described her as looking like she 735 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 19: was dressed like a funeral director. Look, they snipe and 736 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 19: snipe and snipe at Donald Trump, and it just flows 737 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 19: off a film like teflon. 738 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 14: And thankfully the First Lady appears to. 739 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 19: Have that same quality where she can just let it 740 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 19: flow over her. She was doing something really sweet and kind. 741 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 19: She was upholding a long standing tradition, which is to 742 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 19: go and read to the children at that hospital at 743 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 19: Christmas time. And if I was one of the children 744 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 19: in that room and I was given the choice of 745 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 19: looking at a picture in a book, and of looking 746 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 19: at Milania Trump, I choose to look at Milania Trump. 747 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 19: So I don't imagine the children were upset at all, 748 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 19: and I applaught her. She genuinely cares about children. She 749 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 19: did that beautiful visit to the Scouts with Princess Catherine 750 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 19: when the Trumps were in the UK. She was a 751 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 19: quantico at a base, an Air Force base recently, looking 752 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 19: after the children of military families and giving them presents 753 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 19: as well. I don't think she would care at all 754 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 19: about these online attacks. 755 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: No, I don't think. 756 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: I think she has got that Donald Trump quality of 757 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 3: just having absolute disdain foremost of the media and the 758 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 3: trolls online. 759 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 4: Now footage has circulated. 760 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 3: Of France's First Lady, Virginia Macron, using a slur against 761 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 3: feminist activers who were interrupting the stand up show of 762 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 3: aarn Abatana, who was wearing masks of the actor and 763 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 3: shouty rapist at this performer. Abatan was accused of rape 764 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty one, but the case was dropped 765 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. 766 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 4: Interesting here dda that Brigitte. 767 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: Is reported to have said in French, of course, if 768 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: there are any stupid bitches will kick them out, using 769 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: a vulgar expression in French. Well, this is quite a 770 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 3: turn up. I wasn't expecting this sort of work from 771 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 3: Bridget Macron. 772 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 19: Well, I am actually on her side in this, and 773 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 19: it doesn't mean I'm in favor of sexual assault, nor 774 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 19: does it mean that she is. I think what she's 775 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 19: getting at is that she, like a lot of people, 776 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 19: are probably sick of protesters interrupting shows where people have 777 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 19: paid their money to see a performer perform. We saw 778 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 19: it here in Australia when Jerry Seinfeld was performing in Melbourne. 779 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 19: Protesters got up during his show and heckled him and 780 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 19: had to go, and the crowd really did not have 781 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 19: a taste for it. 782 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 14: In fact, they booed the protesters out. So I think they. 783 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 19: Do themselves a service when they bob up in these 784 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 19: situations and put their interest in pushing their cause ahead 785 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 19: of what's probably best for most of the people, and 786 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 19: that is allowing them to enjoy the show that they 787 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 19: paid to see. 788 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: Now, Meghan Markle is planning to reach out to a 789 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 3: strange Dad Thomas a second time following his near death experience. 790 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: He had his leg amputated dds she was hoping to 791 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: get a letter to him as soon as she identified 792 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 3: the hospital where. 793 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 4: He's recovering DENI. 794 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: A source has told A source that's supposedly close to 795 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 3: Megan has told Page six that she had been calling 796 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 3: local hospitals to try to locate her father so that 797 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 3: this letter could be delivered to him. 798 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 14: Yeah. 799 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 19: Well, I called poppycock on most of this and a 800 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 19: letter like what is she having it delivered by pigeon? 801 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 19: This is just crazy in this day and age that 802 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 19: this woman who holds herself up and is happy to 803 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 19: be lauded as a founder and a great, successful, intelligent 804 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 19: woman cannot get a message to her father. Well, it's 805 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 19: probably close to a week now. I think it's unacceptable, 806 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 19: and I feel really sorry for him. He seems to 807 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 19: me to have been a very good and decent man. 808 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 19: I think he did most of the heavy lifting when 809 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 19: she was a young woman, raising her and taking her 810 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 19: on set, and she's spoken about that in years past, 811 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 19: about how she enjoyed going to work with her father, 812 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 19: So there was a good relationship there. 813 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 14: For whatever reason it has fallen apart. 814 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 19: I think she should She's obviously the one that's holding 815 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 19: out on him. He's desperate to see her, and she's 816 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 19: fumbling over ways to get in touch with him. It's 817 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 19: not that hard in this day and age. I don't 818 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 19: believe anything this woman says. 819 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he has been crying out to have some contact, 820 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 3: and when he was gravely ill, he was essentially begging 821 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 3: her to have one final meeting with him before he 822 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 3: passed away. Has never met the grandchildren either. She seems 823 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 3: to be a strange for her entire family other than 824 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 3: her mother, which in itself I think is fairly unusual. 825 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 3: Now this next story, this captivated people for a few weeks. 826 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson seemed to be having a 827 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: bit of a romance. And Pamela Anderson has opened up 828 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 3: about this roller coaster romance with Liam Neeson. 829 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 4: She told people. 830 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 3: That they were romantically involved for a short while after 831 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 3: they finished filming a film together, and she said she 832 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 3: still adores Nissan, but they are better as friends. 833 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 4: Dedie, darn it. 834 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 19: I mean, I was like everyone else and we were 835 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 19: to use an expression and some people use, we're all 836 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 19: getting ahead of our skis. We all wanted this to 837 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 19: be to be the new romance. I mean, look, Liam 838 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 19: Neeson lost his wife, Natasha Richard's under really sad and 839 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 19: tragic circumstances. She died after a skiing accident some years ago, 840 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 19: So you know, we want him. 841 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 14: To be happy. 842 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 19: And Pammy, I think she's really sweet, if not the 843 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 19: sharpest tool in the shed, and I think was treated 844 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,479 Speaker 19: horribly by the media with her whole relationship with Tommy 845 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 19: Lee and that sex tape that got released. So I 846 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 19: think we're all hoping that this would work, but I 847 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,439 Speaker 19: don't think it's I don't think they're together. I think 848 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 19: she's saying we're just good friends. There was maybe something. 849 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 14: Hot and heavy. 850 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 19: However, hot and heavy you can get in year sixties 851 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 19: and seventies a pres short time. 852 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 14: But I don't think they're together. 853 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 3: I always thought it was a bit of a creation, 854 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 3: It was a pr exercise. It just boosted interest in 855 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 3: the film. It got so much publicity. I never sort 856 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 3: of bought that it was genuine. But maybe maybe I'm 857 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 3: too cynical. Now I want to. 858 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 4: Get closer to home. 859 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 3: You've uncovered some evidence that Cole's is going woke, or 860 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 3: they have been woke in recent years. Maybe they're staying woke. 861 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 3: Let's look at this Cole's Christmas book calling gingerbread men, 862 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 3: gingerbread people or gingerbread person? Did he seriously who is 863 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 3: offended by the term gingerbread men? 864 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: Because this was a conscious decision. 865 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 3: This wasn't just someone who forgot what these biscuits are called. 866 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 19: Well, Rita, I'm a woman, and I'm deeply offended that 867 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 19: I haven't been depicted as a biscuit with a bald 868 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 19: head and stumpy legs and gum drop buttons, which is 869 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 19: probably a unisex outfit anyway. No, I don't think anyone 870 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 19: was Why are they doing this? Why are they correcting 871 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 19: something that didn't need correcting? And it does matter because 872 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 19: all of these instances where language is changed, where we 873 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 19: refer to chest feeding, and that someone is assigned sex 874 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 19: at birth, all of these things that. 875 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 14: Are not real. 876 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 19: It kind of worms its way into our consciousness and 877 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 19: becomes part of you. That way of thinking, that woke 878 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 19: way of thinking that I don't find acceptable. 879 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 14: And whenever there is this sort of twisting of the. 880 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 19: English language to suit the work agenda, I think that 881 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 19: is harmful and I object to it. 882 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 3: Now before you go, just want to get your take 883 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 3: very quickly on Bonnie Blue who is under arrest in Bali, 884 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 3: and one of the people who reported her to the 885 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 3: police in Bali has told news dot com how and 886 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 3: why they did it. The only fans model Again, she's 887 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 3: not really on OnlyFans anymore. She is a online sex worker. 888 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 3: I think only fans dumbed her. But she's facing up 889 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 3: to fifteen years in jail, probably more. 890 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 4: Likely to be deported. 891 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: She was arrested on suspicion of breaching Indonesia's anti pornography laws, 892 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 3: and the individual who reported her said that the cops 893 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 3: at first couldn't even understand what was happening. We had 894 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 3: to explain it to them. They just couldn't comprehend it 895 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 3: did thankfully for you. You've only got about fifteen seconds. 896 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 4: What should happen to Bonnie Blue Well. 897 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 19: I think if you're in a country, you are bid 898 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 19: by its customs, and I absolutely back the Balinese people 899 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 19: who are very spiritual, who don't want to get a 900 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 19: reputation like Thailand or the Philippines as a dirty. 901 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 14: Sex whatever pit. 902 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 19: Whatever it is she's trying to convey with her antics, 903 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 19: I think she deserves to be punished. 904 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 3: Diddie dumleevy, thank you so much for your time and 905 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 3: that's it for me. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow 906 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 3: night with Douglas Murray. Up next, it's Newsnight.