1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Oh hey, friends, fans listeners of this podcast called Healthy, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Of course, this comes from Body 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: and Soul and I'm your host, Felicity Harley. And joining 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: us in the hot seat for the final time in 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four is our digital editor Holly Berkeleman, and 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: we are chanting through the top health and wellness stories 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: of the year. Yes, we're going to give you our 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: phase today, Holly. 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 2: We made it. 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: We made it happy end of the year. 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we need, you know, the pop out streamers, 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: and we do, and we have not. 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: We don't even have wine in front of us. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: I know what a shame. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: But clap club clap hangover is still still No I'm fine, no, no, no, 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: but I know it was. 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: But it was last week. 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a wedding on the weekend and which 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: was a three day affair. 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: It was beautiful. 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: But let me tell you, my social battery is an 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: absolute zero empty. Gone. 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I've got a wedding this weekend, my cousin's wedding fall. 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: So I've got to get prepped. 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, prep not for anything else, but prep the social battery. 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: That you know what, I don't think we just to digress. 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: We will talk about the stories that we loved and 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: loathed or made us laugh in twenty twenty four in 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: one minute. But I think we underestimate how much energy 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: it does take to intend social events at this time 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: of year. 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: I agree. Energy expenditure is my new focus, actually, because 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: I've found that I need to have the whole weekend 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: doing pretty much nothing to recover in time for the 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: week because I like packing my weekdays full. 37 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, down days so important, down days. 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: I love it. 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 4: Anyway, hit us off, what's one story that you loved? 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: I think loved, love, loved, so instead of down days 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: or maybe kind of similar, it's no spend weekends, which 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: was a story from earlier this year, which basically challenges 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: people to take two whole days where they don't spend 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: any money, which, if anyone's like me, is pretty much impossible. 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: I can't step out of my front door without accidentally 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: spending like fifty dollars on one coffee, it seems like. 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: But it's challenging people to kind of get in control 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: of their finances a little bit, to try not to 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: spend a single dollar on the weekend and do activity 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean you have to not do anything. You 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: can do activities like going for walks, having people over 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: to your house, cooking with things that you have at home, 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: just to stop things from getting out of hand financially 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: and give yourself a bit of control. And I think 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: the best thing is, as the story rise, that you 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: don't have to do it every weekend, but giving yourself, 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: you know, these little challenges first is a great little 58 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: dopamine hit if you manage to do it. But it's 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: also just really good for saving. So you could save 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: if you save two hundred and fifty dollars every month 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: by not spending on the weekend, even five years, that 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: adds up to fifty ten thousand dollars. And if you 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: invested that, you could end up with about eighteen thousand, 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: which is pretty good that it adds up when it really. 65 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: Does, you're so right, Like, Okay, we laugh at spending 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: dropping fifty dollars on a coffee, but you can go 67 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: to a coffee shop on a weekend and then you 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: might have a well bacon ed roll or something for 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: you if you don't have a hangover. Yeah, then you 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: pick up some groceries and then there's fifty it's just gone, yeah, 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: but it's forbid. 72 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: You want to take away? Yes, and you have three 73 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: little kids. Oh my goodness. It's so expensive to be 74 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: alive these days, and I think with the cost of 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: living concerns, especially at the back end of the year, 76 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: I think it's. 77 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: A good little chat. 78 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: I think this is a great one to take into 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: the new year, especially if you're feeling overwhelmed with the 80 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: cost of Christmas. 81 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: And I agree, and the festivities can be so expensive. 82 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: So well, I really like this term that came up 83 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: earlier this year, millennio pause. 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: That's a bit of about five times fast millennial pause. 85 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: That's better. 86 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: So I thought this is interesting. Now I'm actually on 87 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: the cuss I'm like a young gen X millennial here, 88 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no, at the end of the year. Anyway, 89 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: I just really like this term because I felt like 90 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: it summed up what a lot of people around me 91 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: and a lot of listeners would be feeling. So millennials 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: are entering perimenopause, so of course there's a word for it, 93 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: and I think this one's just should be on our radar, 94 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: and it's a big deal. And what I've loved particularly 95 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: about this year and probably last year is that we 96 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: are talking about perimenopause, menopause. It's normalized in a huge way. 97 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: It's coming up in so many conversations so swiftly. Yeah, 98 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: And I just feel the more that the millennial era 99 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: gets into perimenopause, the more we're going to hear about it, 100 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: feel empowered and that it's okay to talk about it. 101 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: So I suppose this perhaps is my word of the year. 102 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, so for all those people who are feeling 103 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: like they might be entering into perimenopause or are in there, 104 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: or question whether they're in there, I think that's a 105 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: big thing. Yeah, kind of don't know whether you're in 106 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: there totally. 107 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: This is an empowering word, just to throw around if 108 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: you can pronounce it. 109 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: And you're right that the more millennials who come into 111 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: this stage, the more we'll hear about it because they're outspoken, 112 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: they know how to use social media properly. It'll just 113 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: get more and more prevalent. So bring on, right, MILLENNI Paul, 114 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: I love it, Millennio pause. Okay, what was next? My 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: third one was another one I loved. I haven't done 116 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: any ones. I hate it now because I'm we're leaving. 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: We love wellness trends. We love wellness trends, and these 118 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: are just the good ones. So my pick is low 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: dopamine Mornings could be the wellness hack you need. That 120 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: was the headline and low Dopamine Morning. So basically, I 121 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: was trying to do things slower in the mornings and 122 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: not stack your dopamine too much early on in the 123 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: day so that you don't crash out by lunchtime, because 124 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: I think we do this without thinking. A lot of 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: the time. We wake up and we might, you know, 126 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: make a coffee and look on our phones and play 127 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: music and talk to your housemate, and you're doing all 128 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: these different things which are building up your dopamine, and 129 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 3: then you crash out because you get to work and 130 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: you're sitting there and maybe you're a little bored, and 131 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: then all the good. 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: Stuff you're drained. 133 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: I actually also like this because I feel like I 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: feel like there's been a lot of pressure on people 135 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: this year to get their morning routine right. 136 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: Totally agreat. 137 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people are interview on this podcast are 138 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: very particular about what they do in the morning, and 139 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: sometimes when I hear them, I'm like, it's exhausting, like 140 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: you do the ice prot then you go for a run, 141 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and then you do this. 142 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: You catch me doing none of that. Can we just 143 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: sit in stillness? 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I actually have a thing that 145 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: I tried to do this year, which is not so 146 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: much this year. Actually I picked it up during COVID, 147 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: Whereas because there was so much time to feel I 148 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: always said to myself, just do one thing at once, 149 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: So I don't watch TV and paint your names nails 150 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: at the same time. Paint your nails and then watch 151 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: TV because I was trying to fill up my time 152 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: because I'm so bored. But I do think that this 153 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: is similar to this dough dopamine morning thing and that 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: wake up Maybe check your phone and then go for 155 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: a walk, and don't message your friends to listen to 156 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: a podcast at the same time. Just go for a 157 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: walk and enjoy that stillness. I think that's something that 158 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: we can take into the new year, especially post festivities 159 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: when it's been so hectic. 160 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: And it's a great perfect time because you might not 161 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: be running off to work and you actually got time 162 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: to take mornings. Yeah, just take a beat, guys. 163 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the last story I'm going to end on a 164 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: TikTok trend. 165 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: For all this now a bit like the bean salad. 166 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks, my faved, I love that I 167 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: have to bring up the marry me chicken. We actually 168 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: talked about this was not you, I think that was 169 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: that was that yes to be in the hot seat, 170 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: and it was big on the site, and did you 171 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: write the story though I didn't write it anyway, it 172 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 1: was yeah, this is this blew up on the website. Also, 173 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: we talked about the podcast, and it blew up on 174 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the podcast. It's a dish that's garned millions of viewers online, 175 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: and it's obviously for those who don't know. It's for 176 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: women to make hoping that a chicken dinner will make 177 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: their partner pop the question or fall in love with 178 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: them or I. 179 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: Mean it's so good, it's also bad, so bad. 180 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: It's very Nora Efron I love, yeah, but I actually like, 181 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously women came out feminists and said, oh, 182 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: you can't do this, there's more to you know, we're 183 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: not what are we reverting back to nineteen fifty and 184 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: sixties when we're of course there's models step wives, But I. 185 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: Don't know, I liked it. I thought it was harmless. 186 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: It's really good. 187 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: Have you made it? 188 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: I haven't made it because I'm so scared of cooking 189 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: raw chicken. I was raised in a vegetarian household. 190 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 191 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: They call to meet for us, but I'm scared of 192 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: raw meat, so I don't do it myself very often. 193 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: But I should make it, and maybe I'll make it 194 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: for my friends rather than making it for a few us. 195 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: It's really easy. 196 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: Actually, I'm gonna make it for dinner to night. 197 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 4: I make it for myself, marry myself chicken. Yeah, I 198 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: like that. 199 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: It's just I'm just going to call it bloody good 200 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: chicken recipe perfect. 201 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 202 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, Holly, it's been so nice having you in the 203 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: hot seat this year. 204 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's been so much fun. 205 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: And have a great Christmas, New Years, and we'll see you. 206 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: Well back on deck in January. 207 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: I can't wait. 208 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: Can't wait to report back and hear about your holidays 209 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: as well. 210 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah you too, I see then. 211 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: Bye well, folks. 212 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: That wraps up our podcasts for twenty twenty four. Next Monday, 213 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: we kick off with our Summer series, which of course 214 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: are our best ofs from the past year. There are 215 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: some really good interviews coming up for you. If you 216 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: want to read any of the above stories, I will 217 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: leave the links to all of those in the show notes. 218 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: Anything else hedybody, insoul dot com dot are you can 219 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: follows on socials dm me at Felicity Harley. Thanks again 220 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: for joining us as always, and of course have a 221 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: wonderful Christmas, a happy New Year, and try and stay healthy. 222 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: Is a four at