1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: This is not a video or game. This is real life. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: You go to a fucking pup ar Christmas Eve with 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: a machine guls if someone going there with a baseball 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: bat and have a grievance with someone that's sundard. That 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: happens every weekend. But you go somewhere with the machineles 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: master when it is you go on it to kill someone. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: It's Christmas Eve. On the Wirral, a comfortable suburban area 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: just outside Liverpool, a port city in the north of England. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Twenty six year old Ellie Edwards is heading to a 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: local pub with her younger sister Lucy. Ellie is a 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: little less enthusiastic than her sister. She's been hungover for 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: a couple of days already, but she's decided to head 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: out for another night a beautician. Her long blonde hair 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: falls down over her leather jacket and a big silver necklace. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: Inside the Lighthouse Pub, the sisters are soon singing and 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: dancing together. Sometime after nine point thirty pm, Lucy heads home. 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: She tells Ellie not to stay out late. Ellie says 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: she'll just be another hour and continues back at the pub. 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: What Ellie cannot know is that A man is also 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: standing outside the pub in the car park. He's been 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: waiting and watching the area for around three hours. He's 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: carrying a Scorpion submachine gun. I'm Fiona Hamilton, the chief 23 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: reporter at The Times and from The Times, the Sunday 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: Times and News Corp Australia. This is cocaine in episode one, 25 00:01:49,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: are shooting at Christmas. Trying to understand what happened next 26 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: on that night in twenty twenty two ended up being 27 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: a much bigger task than one reporter could do alone. 28 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: Over the past year I've been working in a team 29 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: from two separate countries with my colleagues David Collins from 30 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: The Sunday Times in the UK. 31 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: So you were part of a group that smuggled one 32 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: hundred million pounds out of the UK. How do you 33 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: reflect on that? 34 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: And Stephen Drill from News Corps Australia. 35 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: This is the end of the line. 36 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: I'm just about to go in. Knock on the door 37 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: are a ten million dollar house that is accused of 38 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: being the proceeds of crime. 39 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: This investigation has taken us to ten different cities in 40 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: six countries, traveling over fifty thousand kilometers following trail from 41 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: that pub in Northern England where Ellie was celebrating Christmas 42 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: and leading us to column and cartel's drug smuggling in Mexico, 43 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: a torture chamber in the Netherlands, money laundering in the 44 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: Middle East, and police raids across Australia. 45 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: Sydney's gun crime epidemic has claimed two more lives tonight. 46 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Police have established Task Force Magnus to try to win 47 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the bloodshed. 48 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: What we uncovered was a global business operation based around 49 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: a single illegal product, one so common that, let's be honest, 50 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: it's likely that you or someone you know has snorted 51 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: a line recently. We'll reveal how the world's legitimate business empires, 52 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: trading floors and boardrooms have their shadowy equivalents in the cartels, 53 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: traffickers and kingpens. But for now, this story starts with 54 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: Ellie Edwards. David Collins, the Sunday Times and all An 55 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: editor went to meet her father. 56 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: I'm in Merseyside, probably most famous around the world for 57 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: the Beatles and Liverpool football club. From the city of 58 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: Liverpool itself. I've made a short drive through the King's 59 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: Way tunnel under the River to an area called the 60 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: wirel I've come to meet Tim Edwards. He's the father 61 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: of Ellie Edwards, the young woman who went to the 62 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: pub on Christmas Eve. He's never spoken about that night. 63 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: In the detail you're about to hear. 64 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any easier, and sometimes you can you 65 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: can feel you're getting ahead a bit and dealing with things, 66 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: and everything's getting you know it's going to be brighter 67 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: as the future, and then something will come along and 68 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: trigger a memory or and then I might struggle for 69 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: a couple of days. But as it happens today, today's 70 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: good day. 71 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: Tim is tall and broad, with thick, streaked gray hair 72 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: and a beard. He's an imposing figure and I guess 73 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: you might describe him as a man's man, the type 74 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: of guy you'd sink a few pints in the pub 75 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: with and chat about football and life. He was born 76 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy one and came of age in Liverpool 77 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: in the eighties, a tough time for the city with 78 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: high unemployment, but he remembers a close networking class community. 79 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: No matter how bad things were, your neighbor would be 80 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: looking out for you, you know, the local bobby. He 81 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: would be on a bike or he'd be walking around 82 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: only be keeping an eye on the kids. 83 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: Then if the kids would get up, you know good it. 84 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: Just go on the on the door and tell your 85 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: mother and father the next monue you get a clip 86 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: around here. 87 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: Or when he got in. 88 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: As a young man, like many, he went out clubbing, 89 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: which is where he met his wife, Gainer. 90 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: Back in the ninety early nineties. The club seems massive 91 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: and Liverpool, And. 92 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I met her on a nighthouse. 93 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: And what happened after that? 94 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: You were just yeah, I just fell in love. Yeah, 95 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: fell in love. I started having kids. I was a 96 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: young lad and I was just doing well whatever I 97 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: could to put food on the table and build a family, 98 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, build a fire home. 99 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: That just did me best. 100 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: The couple's first child was a boy, and then on 101 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: the tenth of May in nineteen ninety six, their second 102 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: came along, a daughter called Ellie. 103 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: She was never a problem. 104 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: She was always there. Some kids want when the babies 105 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 1: are to be up all night, the one feeding every 106 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: couple a couple of hours and what left my life? Yeah, 107 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, she was never a bother. We have four 108 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: kids altogether, Connor, Ellie, Lucy and George. It was a great, 109 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: It was a happy house. 110 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: Can you remember Ellie's bedroom when she was a teenager? 111 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: Like what typical typical girl? 112 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: To be honest, if I could help, but never went 113 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, typical teenagers where you just don't want 114 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: to go in there. 115 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: You just don't know what you're gonna find. So what 116 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: was she into? 117 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: What was she doing on her a Saturday night for 118 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: example when she was a child, or she's in. 119 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: A fifteen sixteen? 120 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Oh god, I remember the best friend she died a 121 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: hair and I must have seen every color of the 122 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: rainbow at least three times over. 123 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: You'd see them coming now ready to go. 124 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Out on Friday, Saturday night, whatever, and you'd have different 125 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: colored are of it. 126 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: As an adult, Ellie put that creativity to good use. 127 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: She left school at sixteen to study beauty at college 128 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: and also became a qualified dental nurse. 129 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: She had a little space in one of her friends 130 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: had a beauty salon. She wanted to build this beautician 131 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: side of her life a killer if you like. And 132 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: Monday to Friday she would do the gentle nurse work. 133 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: So that was her bread and butter, if you like. 134 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: So she worked hard. She worked early hard. 135 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: Ellie was a young woman with a bright future ahead 136 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: of her, balancing two careers and close with her family. 137 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: Although Tim and Gainer had now split, Christmas remained a 138 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: full and happy time. 139 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Because although me and the moment were not together, and 140 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't been for a couple of years, but I would 141 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: still make the Christmas dinner and we would all meets 142 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: up and and have Christmas together. 143 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: So can you remember Christmas Eve? And did you see 144 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: Ellie that day? 145 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: We'd been out the day before to Manchester. We've been 146 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: to Christmas markets and shopping and the next day she'd 147 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: bought me a coat for Christmas. And the original plan 148 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: was for her to come to mine and she was 149 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: going to help me wrap the presents for my grandson 150 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: and all the other kids in there. 151 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 4: And what she didn't. 152 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: Instead of wrapping presents though, Ellie rang her dad and 153 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: said she was going out with her sister Lucy. The 154 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: pair were close and Lucy had made a surprise trip 155 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: back from Dubai for the festive period. 156 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: It could have been so difference if we're just stuck 157 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: to our plan, but girls being the girls, it was 158 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: never going to stick to our plan. She just ended 159 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: up gone out with her friends, which is quite right 160 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: what she should have been do. 161 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,479 Speaker 3: Elly and Lucy headed to a pub called the Lighthouse. 162 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: The pubs in the middle of a small row of 163 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: shops and businesses, surrounded by residential streets and set a 164 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: little back from the road. There's a large beer garden 165 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: out front. Inside it's a big, spacious boozer, the kind 166 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: of place where you can watch sport, playpool, gamble on 167 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: the machines in the corner. Back at home, Tim went 168 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: to bed. 169 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what time it was, well three o'clock, 170 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: maybe two o'clock, I don't know. And the eventually he 171 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: banged on my door and got me up out. 172 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: Of bed. 173 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 6: And he opened the doors me so, and can you 174 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 6: remember what he said to you? Just said it was early. 175 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 6: We need to hear the gospel. 176 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: Let's pause a second, because on that Christmas Eve, it's 177 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: the actions of someone Tim had never even heard of 178 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: that would change his life beyond recognition. A few miles 179 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: from the pub, a man puts on dark clothes with 180 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: a hood and gloves. He gets in a stolen Mercedes 181 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: with false license plates. For three hours, he drives to 182 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: six different locations, watching and waiting before finally settling on 183 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: a parking spot near the front of the lighthouse. At 184 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: the same time, Ellie is laughing with friends inside the pub. 185 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: She spots someone across the room and makes her way 186 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: over to give him a hug. At eleven forty seven pm, 187 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: she goes outside for a cigarette in the car park, 188 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: the man waits around the corner, out of sight, wearing 189 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: a mask. He's holding the Scorpion submachine gun loaded with 190 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: twelve bullets. He moves forward until he's only a few 191 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: meters away from Ellie and fires. CCTV caught the attack, 192 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: the man retreats, scrambles into the stolen car, and speeds off. 193 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: Six people have been shot. 194 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: I just remember getting to the hospital. Yeah, as quick 195 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: as it could. It was quite hearing. There was there 196 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: was no one there, and I remember the sage and 197 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: coming down and it's just just. 198 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: It was awful. 199 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 5: And it was obviously the early hours of the morning 200 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 5: and Christmas Christmas Day, there's nobody there and there's You're 201 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: with your son and. 202 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: The kids and all the family and the pullers in 203 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: the children's ward, which was crazy. It was I remember, 204 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I was just angry. There was no patience or kids 205 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: in it, and yeah, I was just very hungry. 206 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: Was it the surgeon in that moment that broke the 207 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: news that Elliot had died? And what was and your 208 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: initial act reaction was anger? 209 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was just ready. 210 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: I was ready to go to war. I was ready 211 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: to flatten the hole of the world, no bother. 212 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: And did you have any idea at that point of 213 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: how she died? 214 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: They knew she'd been shot, but. 215 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 6: That was it. 216 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: That was the only thing really, I was still as 217 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I was contained. She was going to turn up at 218 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: the mors. I tried drinking her phone. 219 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: After the moment with the surgery, tried to run a phone. 220 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: What was the purpose of ringing the phone. 221 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: To Speater? 222 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: Did you get a voicemail or a message or just 223 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: for I actually remember seeing Tim on television after Ellie's 224 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: death on Boxing Day, he went to lay flowers on 225 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: the pavement outside the pub. The waiting news cameras zoomed 226 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: in on him as he arrived. 227 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 7: At the scene where she was killed. Ellie's family came 228 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: to lay flowers for a woman they so deeply loved. 229 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 7: On what was supposed to be the happiest few days. 230 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 7: They've undoubtedly been the worst. 231 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: It's a blair to be honest. So much happens. 232 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: I always explain that there's been in an elevator that 233 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: doesn't stop at any floor, just keeps corn up so 234 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: you can never get off. Just so much that goes 235 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: on really quickly to process, and I was protecting the 236 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: family from having to deal with all that, so I 237 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: bore the bruns of all of it. 238 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: Merseyside Police acted quickly. 239 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: Hello. 240 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 8: First of all, I'm going to read a statement on 241 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 8: behalf of Ellie's family. There was no one as beautiful 242 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 8: as our Ellie may her looks. 243 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: In a press conference in the week after Ellie's death, 244 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: I watched Tim sitting next to a detective superintendent as 245 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: she read from a statement the family had written. 246 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 8: Everyone that knew and met el knew how special she was. 247 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: After six people were shot that night, Ellie was only 248 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: one not to survive. Looking back at this now, the 249 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: grief is obvious on Tim's face. From time to time, 250 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: he sniffs and his lip quivers as if he's holding 251 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: back tears. The officer appeals for information. 252 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 8: They don't deserve to be protected. They belong in prison. 253 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 8: We know that the answers to this lie within our communities. 254 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 8: So my appeal to you is please tell us what 255 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 8: you know and help us get justice for Ellie's family. 256 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: And the public responded. In a week after a murder, 257 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: the police received one hundred and fifty tips and leads 258 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: suggestions of people to look at and over potential evidence. Then, 259 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: after two weeks, on the tenth of January in twenty 260 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: twenty three, a twenty two year old called Connor Chapman 261 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 3: was arrested in North Wales. He was spotted in a 262 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: supermarket where he's rushed at to check out and detained 263 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: by plain clothes police officers. 264 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: It's surrendous your coach su pub as a machine gun 265 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve? Really, come on, this is not a video game. 266 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: This is real life. You go to a fucking put 267 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve with a machine guns if it was 268 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: someone going over a baseball bat and have a grievance 269 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: with someone, that standard, That happens every weekend. But you 270 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: go somewhere with the machine guns matter when it is 271 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: you going to kill someone. That machine gun is not 272 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: gonna just slightly hate someone. It's gonna kill someone. So 273 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: he would have fuck goes over with that mentality, and 274 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: especially on Christmas Eve, I just did one thing that 275 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: makes me angry. What part of your brain makes that 276 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: think that that's okay. 277 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: Chapman soon found himself in the dock at Liverpool Crown Court. 278 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: The very first day that Charlie walked into the courtroom, 279 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: you obviously be on a piece of glass and all 280 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: that protected. But he decided to give it a bit 281 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: of a show. Bravardo. But you know what, within twenty 282 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: minutes he never looked at me again, because he's just 283 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: a coward. 284 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 3: The trial lasted sixteen days and after around four hours 285 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: of deliberation, the jury found Chapman guilty of Ellie's murder. 286 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: The judge sentenced him to forty eight years behind bars. 287 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 9: The murder of Ellie Edwards has caused profound and permanent 288 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 9: grief to her family and a great shock to. 289 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: The entire community. 290 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 9: So then it's understood by you, Connor Chapman, as well 291 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 9: as those who are observing. It means that you will 292 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 9: have to serve forty eight years in custody before you 293 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 9: could apply for release. And if you're ever released, and 294 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 9: considering your dangerousness, that might never happen. 295 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: Just in the last few minutes, this guilty verdict for 296 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: Connor Chapman found guilty of murdering Ellie. 297 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 10: Edwards, Ellie Edwards's father Tim once again looking directly at 298 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 10: Connor Chapman as those verdicts were read out to him 299 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 10: as he stood in the dock. 300 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: The amounts of people involved in this investigation from day one, 301 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: literally from the minute it happened, has been remarkable, and 302 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: they did not give up. 303 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 4: They were relentless in. 304 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Achieving the goal, which was to get justice for Early 305 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: and catch the killer. Thankfully now he's got forty eight 306 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: years and hopefully he never sees Christmas again. 307 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: What are your feelings towards I mean, I know you 308 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: said earlier to me before the interview. You know you 309 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: can't even say his name. 310 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: I'll never mention his name. Doesn't deserve the breath out 311 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: of my mouth. So mentioned his name as far as 312 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: I was a piece of shit, And what happened to 313 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: him until his last breath, I couldn't careless. 314 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: So what was Chapman doing that night? Why was he 315 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: spraying bullets into a busy pub beer garden? Will He'd 316 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: actually been targeting two men who Ellie happened to be 317 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: standing near. You see, Chapman was from a place called 318 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: the wood Church Estate, a notorious area not far from 319 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 3: the pub. The previous day, one of his associates had 320 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 3: been beaten up by rival gang he was seeking revenge. 321 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: When the case came to court, Chapman said he was 322 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: a quote low level cocaine dealer. The shooting was part 323 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: of an ongoing conflict between rival gangs fighting over territory 324 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: in the area's cocaine trade. The same month that Chapman 325 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: was convicted of murder, July twenty twenty three, on the 326 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: other side of the world, five people were shot within 327 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: five days in Sydney, Australia, two of them killed in 328 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: another tit for tat gang conflict. 329 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 9: Escalating gang wars in Sydney is leading our bulletom, with 330 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 9: New South Wales police under pressure to prove they have 331 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 9: controlled the street. 332 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: That conflict was over a shipment of cocaine that went missing. 333 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: The shipment was said to be worth around one hundred 334 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: million Australian dollars. One of the murdered men was left 335 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: lying on the road. 336 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 6: School children subjected to the horror on a Canterbury street 337 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 6: passing the body of. 338 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: A man his death. Like others in that gang war, 339 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: and like Eli's had one thing in common. 340 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 4: The all is cocaine. 341 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: Mainly that has enormous profits for criminals here in Sydney. 342 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: The cocaine trade one of the most lucrative businesses in 343 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: the world, a business where the global supply is currently 344 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: at record levels, where the profits are counted in millions 345 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: and the loss is measured out in murders. But those 346 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: I just don't care about the human cost. It's only business, 347 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: and right now business is good. Coming up in this series, 348 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: we go inside that multimillion dollar global industry. Very casually. 349 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: The guy says, all right, so if they found this, 350 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: they know about the torture celler and I'm like, torture seller, 351 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: what are you talking about. 352 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: I'm down here in an hot tunnel. We're about eighteen 353 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: meters from the Mexican border, and to be honest, it's 354 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 4: just quite frightening. 355 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 11: I raise my hands and I say to my God, 356 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 11: I forgive the person that give me that. And I 357 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 11: say to my God, forgive them, and forgive me, because 358 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 11: in this time I need you so much. 359 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: I think we can arrest our way out of this. 360 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: They are twenty four to seven. 361 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 10: They are notified by money, greed and ego and that 362 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 10: drives them. 363 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: It's power, just between you and me, just between you 364 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: and me. Literally, some of the money might be from 365 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: like drugs in the UK. 366 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the cameras. 367 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: It's too dangerous. 368 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: You're worried, it's too dangerous to get out? Are you 369 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: worried about my safety? 370 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: Of course. 371 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 6: You are, my guest. 372 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: What are these rows about? 373 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 11: Do you think you know what it's about. 374 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: I don't have to say the word, you know the 375 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: word drugs. 376 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: I'm getting out today. Okay. 377 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 7: The first time I saw the money, I felt like 378 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 7: I was in a film. 379 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how much it was, and I thought, 380 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: what the fuck have I got myself into? 381 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 9: Yeah? 382 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: How would you like her to be remembered? 383 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: I'd like it to be remembered for being a good soul, 384 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: good example two women, you know. I thought she would 385 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: never get it to see the grandkids that we may 386 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: have had with Ellie, but just oh, she's always spoke 387 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: about in a good, positive way. 388 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 3: Since Ellie died, a foundation has been set up in 389 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: her name. It's mission is to raise awareness of gun 390 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 3: crime and help families affected by it. 391 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: Cocaine Inc. Is a joint investigation from the Times, The 392 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: Sunday Times and News Corps Australia. The reporters are David Collins, 393 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: Stephen Drill and me Fiona Hamilton. The series is produced 394 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: by Sam Gentratsak. The executive producers are Will Row and 395 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: Dan Box. Audio production and editing is by Jasper Leak, 396 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: with original music by Tom Burchell and If you want 397 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: to get in touch with any questions or thoughts on 398 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: the series, email Cocaine Inc. At The Times dot co 399 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: dot uk.