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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the heart of It. We are

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Speaker 1: recording on gadigle Land. We've had some interesting questions of late.

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Speaker 1: I think people love to reminisce, and you know, we've

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Speaker 1: talked so much to other people about their love story

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Speaker 1: and about their weddings and all that sort of stuff

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Speaker 1: and first dates. And I know that we have talked

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Speaker 1: about it earlier on our podcast in the podcast history,

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Speaker 1: early early, early on, as.

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Speaker 2: You go back to the first ten episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what what do our listeners perhaps don't know

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Speaker 1: about our relationship? What do they don't know about our

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Speaker 1: early years? Do you think that we could share with them?

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the first questions we ask is, you know,

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Speaker 3: how did you meet? What was your first date? Do

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Speaker 3: you remember our first meeting and how did it come?

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Speaker 1: I remember our first I remember everything Vivia about our relationship. No,

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Speaker 1: I do remember, but we have a disagreement about where

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Speaker 1: it was we do.

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Speaker 3: I think it was in a nightclub in North Sydney

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Speaker 3: and you say it was in.

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Speaker 1: No, because I've already and I've checked on this because Duncan,

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Speaker 1: our friend who was throwing the party, I've asked him

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Speaker 1: multiple times and he's always like I still have.

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Speaker 2: I still believe it was in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: Do you need me to call him?

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Speaker 2: No? Do you need to be right about this?

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Speaker 1: I know I'm right about this.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, that's all good.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to be right. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: be right.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So what happened? So how did it come about

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Speaker 2: our date?

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, okay, from my perspective, it all came

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Speaker 1: through Carlotta, our friend, Carlotta Moy, famous.

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Speaker 2: Photographer, and she wasn't at the time, though she was.

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Speaker 1: She was working at Dolly, that's right, and she was

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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, and you worked with her

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Speaker 1: a fair bit. And I you know, history has said

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Speaker 1: many a time, and this is true still to this day.

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Speaker 1: I'd had a crush on you since I was sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry I had mentioned that to her. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot in many a time. And you had come

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Speaker 1: into the Dolly offices, and she called me and went, Carara, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I was just in here and he mentioned you and

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Speaker 1: talked about you, and I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: can you get him to come to this party? And

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Speaker 1: she did. She made the hook up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she rang me. It happened is back in the

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Speaker 2: day when we had a rotary phone. Yes, that's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: picked it up and she.

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Speaker 3: Said Carlotta, and she said Alison Bray is inviting you

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Speaker 3: to a party. And then that that I felt like

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Speaker 3: a bit of a rock star. I felt like I

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Speaker 3: was part of the IT gang.

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Speaker 1: You were already a rock now.

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Speaker 3: But I had that imposter syndrome going on, so I

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Speaker 2: I just felt like this gangly did that was just lucky.

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Speaker 1: What's so interesting is that I didn't. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: a gang I was. I was never an IT gang

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Speaker 2: I thought you did. I know, I thought you did.

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Speaker 3: I had You're on Dolly magazine and you hung out

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Speaker 3: with all these super hot people. I didn't in the pages,

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Speaker 3: I know. But but the external part of it, this

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Speaker 3: is where instagrams actually we all have this idea of

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Speaker 3: what it's like for people, and often there you were

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Speaker 3: you as I came to understand that you were quite insula.

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Speaker 3: You know, you hang out shy and you you're quite shy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and still didn't hang up, didn't hang out with

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Speaker 2: Which I was really disappointed about.

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Speaker 1: Like, no one failed.

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Speaker 2: I was going to be in the cool gang. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I was on the I'm like the nerd on

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Speaker 2: We've never spoken about this before.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's been a disappointment from day one. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I never knew that you thought I

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Speaker 1: was in the cool gang.

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Speaker 1: I've never been in the cool gang, not once in

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Speaker 3: And we were two non cool gang people being out

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Speaker 2: Was in the cool gang?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: For sure. So when you met me, then after that.

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Speaker 1: You knew Jason Donovan, you knew a ton of famous people.

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Speaker 1: I knew no one. I knew that you were the

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Speaker 1: first famous person I met, I'd ever met. You were

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Speaker 2: Hang on, you had You did a photograph with Bruce Sammerzon.

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Speaker 1: I did one photograph and he Yeah, he wasn't that famous.

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Speaker 2: He was the hit dude for a little while.

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Speaker 3: He's on the cover of Dolly and Stuff. I know, listener,

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Speaker 3: you know who Bruce Sammon.

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Speaker 3: But Ashley Bruce Samazon. Wow, those dudes they were they

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Speaker 3: were like the Kings of the time. Jason, Yes, Jason

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Speaker 3: and Kylie and we were under the same stable, the

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Speaker 2: We'd see each other maybe.

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Speaker 3: Two or three times a year at publicity things, you know,

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Speaker 3: But we didn't hang out because I was Sydney or

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Speaker 1: You've done Big River by then. You knew Marcia Hines,

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Speaker 2: Honey, it's not.

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Speaker 3: You know now that that's the illusion. You work together

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Speaker 3: off and do your other things. So, yes, we become friends,

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Speaker 3: and you did love absolutely still love those guys.

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Speaker 1: We had. We had John English sing at our wedding

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Speaker 1: six Ribbons, which was so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It's truly amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what a if that was to have him do that,

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Speaker 3: such a treat miss him.

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 3: He was a super super dude and very very talented,

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Speaker 3: extraordinary talent.

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Speaker 1: So we've discovered that we've discovered something about each other.

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Speaker 1: That you thought I was in the IT group. I

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Speaker 1: thought you were in the IT group, not that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to be the.

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Speaker 2: Group in the exclusion group in our own ship group.

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Speaker 2: Oh no. And then when we realized we were we're

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Speaker 1: You and I made our own group, right, we did,

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Speaker 1: just the two of us. There's a something about that.

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Speaker 3: So the first date, all right, the first date is

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Speaker 3: that the nightclub? Yes, which I think is in North Sydney.

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Speaker 3: You say it's in what King's Crosses somewhere. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: It was in the city. It was in the city.

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Speaker 2: I knew there were buildings, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, that was buildings, right, yep.

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Speaker 2: So I had my band going at the time.

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Speaker 3: We had Baby James going, and we actually had a

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Speaker 3: to come and meet you, and and and the funny

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Speaker 3: thing was, is the guys in the band we also

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Speaker 3: had a couple of girls in the band, Show Jensen

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Speaker 3: maybe there was Denny Hines was in the band at

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Speaker 3: Bray too, and we were a ten piece funk band

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Speaker 1: Well. It was literally like in my mind, it's kind

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Speaker 1: just fog That's all I could see was when you

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Speaker 2: Door, was like the guest that I just let go

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Speaker 2: And it was.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it was just that's that was the only

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Speaker 2: Down to funny?

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Speaker 3: I can't handle the attention, can't handle the focus, so

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Speaker 3: you can It's like that, there's a there's a what

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Speaker 3: do you call it a filter on the Instagram where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like that. It was just like that.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, and I think we hit it off

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Speaker 1: remember feeling that I never felt awkward with you. There

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well think about the second day.

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Speaker 1: You're a good talker though, you're a very good talker. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you being really hard on yourself lately.

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Speaker 1: You notice that, sorry, just as an aside, Like when

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just, you know, just.

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Speaker 1: No, but that's okay, that's true. You are a very

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Speaker 3: And I do enjoy hearing other people's story is as

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Speaker 3: much as I enjoyed telling my own.

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Speaker 2: Got better? How will you give me this? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Have I evolved into a better listener in the last

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Speaker 1: Get a million a million percent? Like just so much better,

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Speaker 1: so so so much better?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Well. Our second date, oh well, would you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd call that a date. That

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a date because the first night we met

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Speaker 3: you'd had a few few.

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Speaker 2: Libations to settle things down.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm a cheap drunk.

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Speaker 3: Y, so you weren't at your best. What I've come

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Speaker 3: to know is your best. So I did the gentlemanly

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Speaker 3: And then then I went out with my mates and

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Speaker 3: got really drunk.

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Speaker 1: So I was twenty. I was twenty at the time.

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Speaker 1: You were twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Was it? Then?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't?

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Speaker 2: Was it the next look? I think it was somewhere

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Speaker 1: Was it the next day of the day after?

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Speaker 2: I think I was pretty keen to see you again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you came up to my house yep, And

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Speaker 3: I said, let's go out. I had this beautiful nineteen

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Speaker 1: Okay, And you said to me, oh, your your hair

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Speaker 1: And then we we did dance to Lyle love It

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When we're done, do you do.

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Speaker 3: I should have just gone, hey, amazing. You know what

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Speaker 3: Would you do it different I'd have to give it

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Speaker 2: How I would do it.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'll be way more creative than what it was.

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Speaker 3: And I'd already thought about it, So it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: I were having a pretty heated discussion, Euro upset about something,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just like, look, we're together. It's okay. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 3: And you're like what, And I'm like yeah, And suddenly

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Speaker 3: And then we went for a walk on down South

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Speaker 2: And we talked about it further and we're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: It, yeah, I I was super surprised, Like I didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think I don't think it would have happened.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't have asked me.

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Speaker 3: But I just go because we were both so young, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So let's just make this clear. You're actually saying you

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Speaker 2: No, I would.

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Speaker 3: That's just trying to I'm trying to be honest and

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was all those big memories, all those things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I just say, look, you know, if we who knows

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Just you just don't know these things. So what it did,

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Speaker 3: So it's not any reflection on how much I loved

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Speaker 1: Would you, if you were able to do it again,

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Speaker 2: Would you?

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Speaker 1: You know, we've heard some pretty amazing weddings. You know,

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Speaker 2: Well? Probably are we have we been married before? No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably would do things differently. Yeah, I'd make it

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Speaker 1: Too, Oh right, oh this age yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely it would be the funnest day ever.

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Speaker 1: Right, What would you do?

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Speaker 2: I don't know I do something really fun though.

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Speaker 1: You get the Essendon football a lot, the bombers.

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Speaker 3: Come down and your guard of honor as you walk down,

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Speaker 3: Your dad could do that and he's still around, bless

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Speaker 1: So we'd all go play golf.

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Speaker 2: We would. We'd play golf. We what else will.

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Speaker 1: We'd have an ice bucket challenge. We'd be getting into ice,

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Speaker 1: we do something.

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Speaker 2: We're money with you. That's right, Throw the dog to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I look, I think it would be definitely,

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Speaker 3: that was that was Our friends circled us, we stood

447
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Speaker 3: in the middle, and then we had the greatest band

448
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Speaker 3: playing afterwards.

449
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Speaker 2: After we set our vows.

450
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Speaker 1: In the backyard someone's backyard in the backyard, and then

451
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Speaker 1: we all just ate under the stars. Wasn't it? It

452
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Speaker 1: was beautiful.

453
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Speaker 2: It was magnificent. So, yeah, it's something I would do

454
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Speaker 2: something like that. Would you do? How would you do it?

455
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Speaker 1: You know, I've always loved the look of that, you know,

456
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Speaker 1: out in sort of like the French countryside where they've

457
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Speaker 1: got those long, long, long tables in an apple orchard

458
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Speaker 1: or something. I always think that looks so romantic and fun.

459
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it is. Maybe it's not. But

460
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Speaker 1: I've never been to one like that. I tell you

461
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Speaker 1: what though, not that I could never do this if

462
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Speaker 1: I was, certainly if I was marrying you. But I

463
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: remember seeing I know, I remember seeing Kylie Gillies last

464
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: year she went to I think it was her nephew's

465
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Speaker 1: wedding in India. Now the Indian people know how to

466
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: have a wedding, Oh my gosh. And there's like on

467
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Speaker 1: her Instagram that she sat and had like all the

468
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: hennah done on her hands and it was it just

469
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: looked incredible. And they came in on these carriages painted

470
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Speaker 1: with gold and the marrygold flowers and it goes for

471
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Speaker 1: three days. And I would love to have something like

472
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Speaker 1: that or go to something like that at least that's

473
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Speaker 1: that's just seems so wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I could do that.

475
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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking back to last year, at the end

476
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Speaker 3: of last year and Hamish Blake and his wife did

477
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Speaker 3: an anniversary I think, and had a sixties themed fun yeah. Yeah, yeah,

478
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 3: So I think that those something like that would be

479
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: theme where there is heart involved and a humor and

480
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: you know, and something that creates just really good memories.

481
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Speaker 1: Do you think marriages are becoming less important, that people

482
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Speaker 1: are just partnering up.

483
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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of pressure that comes with marriage,

484
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 3: so I think, but there's also you know, the promise

485
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: that you make that having that ceremony. I think it

486
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: is important and maybe look, I don't know, I don't

487
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: know what the stats are. I don't I would have

488
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: no clue about how other people feel about it. But

489
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Speaker 3: I imagine that the people young people coming up today,

490
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: they have less time for feeling pressured and being told

491
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Speaker 3: what to do.

492
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would seem anyway.

493
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Speaker 3: So maybe they just go, you know, this idea of marriage, Look,

494
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Speaker 3: I'm going to commit myself to you, and that's what

495
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: we'll do.

496
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Speaker 2: You know.

497
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Speaker 3: I think I feel like the look back at my

498
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 3: mum and dad and see the photo of their wedding

499
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: photographs and they've been together.

500
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Speaker 2: For sixty sixty one.

501
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still very special to them, you know, And

502
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: I look back at our wedding thirty one years ago

503
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: and that was a really special time, and my mate's

504
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: weddings that I've been best man for or just gone to.

505
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Speaker 2: And it's a lovely thing to do.

506
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: And it is reflective of the importance of the decision too,

507
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 3: that you've chosen to walk with someone for what hopefully

508
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: is the rest of your life. I don't know, you know,

509
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: someone said the other day that fifty percent of marriages

510
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: are going any in divorce. I would hope that that

511
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: changes more into the people don't and they stick with it,

512
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: work through it because it's it's such a rewarding.

513
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: And beautiful union.

514
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's right, if they can, if it's the

515
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: right thing to do, yeah, for both of them.

516
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's such a big industry too, isn't it, the wedding industry.

518
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: I mean, the prices, what you pay. I feel like,

519
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Speaker 1: you know, from what I've heard too, there's a little

520
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: bit of a backswing now going towards the simplification of

521
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: weddings as well, which I understand. I mean, our eldest daughter, Lotus,

522
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Speaker 1: she's just just like I just want a few friends

523
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: and a barefoot on the beach.

524
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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, that's all I want.

525
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: Sort of things. So, but it's people spend a lot

526
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Speaker 1: of money.

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Speaker 3: And that's a cultural thing too, Like you said with

528
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: the Indian culture, Chinese culture spent a lot of money

529
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: on those ceremonies. Yeah, and I think a lot of

530
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: people just go, why am we spending on the money

531
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Speaker 3: on the ceremony when we could do this, We'll put

532
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Speaker 3: a deposit down for a house or go on a

533
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: great honeymoon.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

535
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: It gets just whatever you whatever you It's so personal,

536
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: isn't it, Because some people have like been looking forward

537
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: to it for so long and they want it to

538
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: be the best day ever, willing to just throw everything

539
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: at it.

540
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Speaker 3: I can imagine with our two daughters. You just described

541
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: what Lotus wants. Body, on the other hand, might turn

542
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: around and go, I want three hundred people.

543
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: At my wedding.

544
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.

545
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to be the rock starf for the day.

546
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Riv might do.

547
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: The same, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

548
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what we save on Lotus's wedding, we're going to.

549
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: Be what's your best quality?

550
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: Thoughtful? What's your best quality?

551
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: I would say empathy?

552
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Okay, who do you admire? I like it

553
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: to ask you.

554
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: You don't have my questions? Oh did you write questions?

555
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, you prepared. I did. God. Who do

556
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: I admire? I can't go past Barack Obama really interesting.

557
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: He broke so many through so many barriers, and I

558
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: imagine the resistance that he had to overcome in his

559
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: own mind, much in the same way Gandhi would have

560
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: or but you know, we watched, we were there, We

561
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: were in America for Obama's presidency. So I saw him

562
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: deal with the slings and arrows, and he he had

563
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: such class. He has such class, and I just I

564
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: just loved the way he conducted himself. So yeah, I

565
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: admire him. Who do you admire?

566
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: It's I think I found that when I was going

567
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to answer this, aren't I It's

568
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: a difficult question because there's a lot of people I admire.

569
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: One of the first persons I thought I was Kitty Flanagan.

570
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: You know, I love him. Leah Purcell also, you know,

571
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: she just won or last year she won Best Actress

572
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: and the fact she did drove his wife. You know,

573
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: just smart, creative women who were just pushing the boundaries creatively.

574
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: I really admire an incredible resilience too, you know.

575
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just those two high on my list. Shall

576
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: I keep asking you?

577
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have the questions, you got them.

578
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: What does your perfect day look like? Uh?

579
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: Swim in the morning, come home bricky with you, recky

580
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: with you, Yeah, and.

581
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: Maybe a go back to the beach and have a

582
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: just a surf and come back lunch with you, nine

583
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: holes of golf with the boys. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty

584
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: much for me. You know, I love my food, and

585
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: I love the fresh air, and I love action and

586
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: yeah that's you know, if we're in a two minute shower,

587
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: that's going to be my answer, right, Yeah, how about yourself?

588
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: What's your perfect day look like? Ali daddo?

589
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: It would be definitely with you and the three children. Yep,

590
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: it would start with big Mama's breakfast. Then it would

591
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: just be a day of being together.

592
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: A big Mama's breakfast is a big breaky of in

593
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: our house of fresh fruit, yogurt yogurt, bacon and eggs

594
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: and saradough toast and a big pot of tea that's

595
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: been spun for three.

596
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Times, just so you know.

597
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: And for me, I just my favorite thing to do

598
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: is play games. With the kids. I just think it,

599
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: that's just hilarious, just when we've played games, when we've

600
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: done Cards against Humanity or oh my god, I just

601
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: love playing games with them because they're so funny. They're

602
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: such funny people.

603
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

604
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: So yeah again, food yummy food, yummy food, yummy food.

605
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: And that's probably yeah, that's probably it. I love to

606
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: reminisce with them about old times, talking about their childhood

607
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: with them. I love doing that. Yeah, I think that

608
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: would be mine. What the world needs now.

609
00:31:52,640 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: Is patience, patients. Yeah, patience and kindness. M hmm, what

610
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: about you?

611
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: I would say equality and listening. Can you describe me

612
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: in one word?

613
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Now?

614
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm scared.

615
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: You have to know that when we ask this question

616
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: of couples, sometimes the editors scissors have to come in

617
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: because there's usually quite a pause where our interviewees reflect

618
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: and really think about this. Okay, so you haven't given that.

619
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Speaker 3: I didn't have any preparation. So many words, there's so

620
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: many Okay, it's very difficult to do in one word.

621
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Love.

622
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: Ah, that's so nice, Thank you?

623
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: You are.

624
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: You love beautiful?

625
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the end of the show.

626
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: Would you like my word for you?

627
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: Make me crying.

628
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: Well, the word the word that comes up for me,

629
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: I think maybe because it's so relevant to you right now,

630
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: is evolving. And I mean that in the most high

631
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: regard because you I was like, oh, is it curiosity?

632
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: Is it? What is it?

633
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: Tenacity? But it's just I think evolving is and your

634
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: desire to evolve, your desire to evolve. I think that's

635
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 1: that's how I would describe you in one or two

636
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: or three words.

637
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's.

638
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: Really kind of you, and I feel seen by you

639
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: because yeah, you know, I'm not just thinking about it,

640
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm actually working.

641
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, the steps.

642
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: Oh it's lovely, what a what a what a surprise.

643
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: I was not expecting to do, as you know, I was.

644
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: I didn't have any sort of idea.

645
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: About what we're going to talk about today except for

646
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: how we met? Yeah, and how do we propose? And

647
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: that's lovely. Oh well, okay, all right, that's it from

648
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: us till next time.

649
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Cheers