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Speaker 1: Approache production.

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Speaker 2: When I was fifteen, I had to charge for beating

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Speaker 2: beating girls, so I was already I made for this.

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Speaker 3: So you used to used to come home from school

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Speaker 3: and you already had a fighting Like what was your

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Speaker 1: Were they strict?

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Speaker 2: Yes, my mother was really strict. They were separated, so

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Speaker 2: my mother had the I don't know the words in English.

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Speaker 2: She had the kids all.

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Speaker 1: The time, so she had to she had to costay

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Speaker 2: So but I have two older sisters and they let

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Speaker 2: them made their experience, but when they went too far,

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Speaker 2: she didn't want. I did the same. So she was

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Speaker 2: really strict with me. But me, I was more crazy

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Speaker 2: than my sir. So like I was, I was more

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Speaker 2: so I was in trouble. I was in trouble sometimes

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Speaker 2: like with the school, with the police. And I did, yes,

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Speaker 2: I did the teenager center for more than a year.

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Speaker 2: After that's I passed in court a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: And but now I'm good. I'm in the sport and everything.

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Speaker 1: You can hit people for fun now in a good week.

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Speaker 3: So you you've got you've got sisters, yes, sisters.

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Speaker 2: Yes brother any brothers brother have a younger brother. But

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Speaker 2: we have only ten months different difference.

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Speaker 1: So are they in the fight scene too? No, no,

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Speaker 1: they are not in that.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only So you're the only one who liked

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Speaker 3: to throw them that they were they were the.

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Speaker 1: Good girls and boys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah wow, So does does your does your mom?

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Speaker 1: Does your mom come to the a lot of your fights?

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Speaker 1: Does she come to the fights now?

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Speaker 2: Because she's too stressed. So she went for my first amateur,

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Speaker 2: my first amateur kickboxing and my first MM professional and

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Speaker 2: she was almost sick. She went to the restroom and

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Speaker 2: almost puked. So I said, no, mom at home.

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Speaker 1: And watch, Oh my god. So when they when? So

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Speaker 1: when you left school?

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Speaker 3: Was were you already fighting then amateur?

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Speaker 1: Or you're not yet?

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Speaker 2: Now I started my first amateur Okay, I started boxing

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Speaker 2: training at thirteen after I had problem, and after I

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Speaker 2: start training mmy at eighteen and I did my first amateur.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I did my first amateur kickboxing in when I was

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Speaker 2: twenty one.

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Speaker 1: So twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, But at the beginning I didn't thought I will fight.

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Speaker 2: It was just for to be in shape. And after

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Speaker 2: a time I needed challenge. So I said the challenge

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Speaker 2: a challenge, yes.

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Speaker 1: But how big a challenge you want. You've just said,

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Speaker 3: Now you went from MMA kickboxing and now you're doing

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Speaker 3: burn knuckle.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I did professional MM, like I have five

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Speaker 2: pro MM fight. So I did MM for more, training

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Speaker 2: for more than for ten years, like eighteen until I

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Speaker 2: signed ber Nacle twenty twenty one. So but I still

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Speaker 2: love it. I still love you too. But I did

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Speaker 2: keep boxing my tie. I never did boxing fight.

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Speaker 1: Just the bear don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I like I'm supposed to. I will do my

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Speaker 2: first boxing fight December fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, wow, yes, wow. So just on everything I like.

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Speaker 2: I like combat sport. I like it because it's different.

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Speaker 3: Which one Which one would you say you'd like to

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Speaker 3: do the most?

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Speaker 2: Bernacle Bernacle fits with me. It's more intense.

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Speaker 1: First, I like, I've seen it. I've seen some of

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Speaker 1: the fights. Their intense, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Really intense. And it's like because when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: I had some fight. It's like return to the roots.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can't see that. Like that,

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Speaker 2: I feel I feel free without gloves, I feel I

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Speaker 1: For me, it's more natural. Oh yeah, it's more natural.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like a it's a brawl, it's a fight.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a proper like yeah, yeah, but what about you,

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Speaker 3: but look at your face. But look, you can't damage

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Speaker 2: But I'm not scared. I like the I like to

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Speaker 2: I want I want blood the So that's.

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Speaker 1: Why it's more you're like me.

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Speaker 3: So when I've had fights, like I've never I've never

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Speaker 3: done professional fighting, but when I used to, if I

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Speaker 3: get into a brawl, if I.

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Speaker 1: Get into it's you get it.

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Speaker 3: It's a kind of like a buzz when you see

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Speaker 3: you get you knock somebody and it feels good and

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Speaker 3: you can see that does blood?

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Speaker 1: Is that how you feel?

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Speaker 3: Is that how you feel when you're in the ring and

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, But I like the whole process. I like

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Speaker 2: I like when they call me, like when you're in

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Speaker 2: the ring. Yes, it's stressful, but me, I feel I

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Speaker 2: feel it like I'm lucky to do it because there's

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Speaker 2: many people. I don't think too many, but there's still

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Speaker 2: many people I think who would like to lead to

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky to do it. So I'm really happy when

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Speaker 2: real happy to to be able to leave all this

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Speaker 1: So is it hard to get an opponent where you are?

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Speaker 3: Is it hard or is it pretty easy to get

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Speaker 3: opponents to find you.

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Speaker 2: In Bernaco because we are not a lot girls, So yes,

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Speaker 2: it's more hard. So but I can have like now

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Speaker 2: I have a girl in boxing, but there was a

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Speaker 2: few girls that they didn't want to fight against me,

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Speaker 2: so yes, but it's still there's still many girls in

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Speaker 2: many disciplines, so I can find. But Bernacal, it's more difficult.

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Speaker 2: It's more difficult, Yes.

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 3: But what what training for you is more more intense?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Is it knuckles like would be the same

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Speaker 3: as boxing apparently when it for training? But what about

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Speaker 1: Which one what's more intense?

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Speaker 3: And which ones you M you're most like training for

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Speaker 3: if you if you've got a fight coming up, with

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Speaker 1: You're enjoying the boxing now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I really like boxing. But after doing like

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Speaker 2: ten years of MM, just doing one discipline, it's it's

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Speaker 2: like you're doing the same thing every day. But I

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Speaker 2: more fast because I just do this just boxing. In MM,

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Speaker 2: it was more hard for the body because there was

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Speaker 2: so many disciplines like key boxing, jiu jitsu, wrestling, white

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Speaker 2: rediscipline because there's there's so many And sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what about your weight? What weight are you going

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Speaker 1: to be for the boxing?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fight at one three, yes, but normally I

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Speaker 2: fight at one twenty five in Bernacle and MM because

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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to have another fight soon in Bernacle, so

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do two big cuts like close,

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Speaker 3: So what what what's what's your fight record in beern

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Speaker 3: Knuckle two.

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Speaker 2: And one and the lost? Yeah, the loss I have

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Speaker 2: is the doctor sta age because I had a big cut.

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Speaker 2: But it was a good fight.

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Speaker 1: I was winning.

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Speaker 2: I was winning the rounds, but it was bleating a lot,

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Speaker 3: Really Yeah, yeah, So that's that's what I mean. Like

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Speaker 3: ben Knuckle is more full on, like you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? Like it's how many rounds? Is perncles the

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Speaker 3: same as every other? Is it the same?

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Speaker 1: Same round?

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Speaker 2: Five minutes, five round two minutes. Yes, even in Champion

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Speaker 2: and Ship and everything is always five round two minutes.

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Speaker 2: But it's not go often to the to the end.

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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I haven't seen many

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Speaker 1: fights go to God. So what's so here's your next opponent, Bernacle.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be my revenge, but it's not. It's not

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Speaker 1: So okay, that's this is this is a revenge fight.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I want to I want to have it

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Speaker 2: because if I don't, if I don't have a rematch

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Speaker 2: and beat this girl, my life will not I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I will not be satisfied for my life.

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Speaker 1: So I have to be So will fight be in Canada?

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Speaker 2: No, because it's not legal in Canada. So it's always

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Speaker 2: always in the USC when I my fights. But Bernacle,

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Speaker 2: it starts to be more legal in another many other

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Speaker 2: But Canada, I I don't know when the it's going

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Speaker 3: Is that is that hard for you then, because you

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Speaker 1: Is that is that hard for you?

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Speaker 2: I like to fight somewhere else because I travel and see, yeah,

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Speaker 2: here is here. It's nice, but people don't really know

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Speaker 2: it's okay for me to travel and go fight in

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Speaker 3: I prefer that, hmm, okay, yeah, because I only came

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Speaker 3: across the knuckle Fighting because I'm gonna interview Luke Atkins

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Speaker 3: who's from the UK, and I'm gonna interview him in

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Speaker 3: a couple of months, and that's how I came across.

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Speaker 3: And then I came across you and I went, Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's why I want you on the podcast. It's because

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Speaker 3: I've never come across it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's new to me.

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Speaker 3: And when I was watching some of the fights, it's

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Speaker 3: just like so gruesome, like as I said, like, you're

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Speaker 3: getting one punch, can just open your skin up straight away?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's gone. So it cuts cuts easily. They

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Speaker 2: said that we in average, we have two stitches everyone

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Speaker 2: every fight in the face. It's always.

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Speaker 1: So what's what's your main goal?

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Speaker 3: And in this, in this sport, what's your what's your

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Speaker 3: main goal?

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Speaker 1: Is to go to the U K is it? What? What?

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Speaker 1: What is it for you in this?

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Speaker 2: And I want to go as far as I can

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Speaker 2: with this sport for sure. I want the belt is

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Speaker 2: the my target. But I I want to do it

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Speaker 2: fast because we are not We are not a lot

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Speaker 2: of girls. Now I'm ranking number one, so there's the champion,

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Speaker 2: the girl and it's me after. But I know I

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Speaker 2: I see me with the belt. I know I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't see it in my head. So I want

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Speaker 2: it's more than me.

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Speaker 3: But is that what you want for your boxing career too?

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Speaker 3: Do you, is that your goal as well?

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Speaker 2: But Sing, I don't know. I in my hand, I

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Speaker 2: the world, for sure, I will be happy. But now

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Speaker 2: the concentration is really on Bernacole because it's good for

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I can do it for the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So because it's a knuckle and you're doing it on

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Speaker 2: ends after every fight I have maybe for three months around,

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Speaker 2: I cannot eat the paths because it's too Like the

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Speaker 2: first fight was not too hard for my hands, but

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Speaker 2: just second I have selecated my thumbs and broke my

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Speaker 2: last one is just my knuckle. It was more big

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Speaker 2: the paths and just that's why it takes time to recovery.

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Speaker 2: The face cuts, it's it's not big, it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: It goes, but it's really the art skullation and that's long.

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Speaker 3: Do you have one fight a year or is it

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Speaker 3: do you have two? How many fights would.

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Speaker 1: You have a year?

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Speaker 2: Now I have one fight a year, but I would

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Speaker 2: like to have more depending on how it goes. But

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Speaker 2: like the first one I did in October twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: and after I had the other in February, so it

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Speaker 2: it was The second was in February twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: and the last one was in May twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: so it was more than a year. But it was

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Speaker 2: not me. Me I wanted to fight, but the Bernacle

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Speaker 2: didn't have nothing or I don't know, but it took.

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Speaker 2: It takes time. It took time. They give me a

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Speaker 2: like two times a year. Bernacle, Yeah,