1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to a three to sixty reveligue from every angle, 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: brought to you by nib joining me again the great 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Gordon Tallas. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: That's been the. 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Journal Australian Buzz, Rothfield. 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: And brett Ree. 7 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: We've got a massive show ahead. Buzz is back on 8 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: a Monday, which is great. We've got Shane Flenny and 9 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the Dragons coach coming up. Bulldogs have moved into fifth position, 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: which is also pretty good? 11 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: Is it? They're on? The Dragons are in the eight two? 12 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: Doesn't hurt the other night though, that golden point loss. 13 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: We'll get to that little layer. Buzzy. Yeah, I know 14 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: you're still hurting. 15 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: But today big news from you, Buzz that Ngus Crichton 16 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: has re signed with the Roosters on a two year 17 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: deal worth eight point one million dollars. Now this is 18 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: set one point six. This is huge news though, isn't it, 19 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Buzz Because given the circumstances where it was at a 20 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: few months ago to where he is right now, where 21 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: the Roosters are, it's a huge signing. 22 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Well, this has played out over the last six months. 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Actually before he actually put pender paper today, at one 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: stage he looked like he was heading to and Rugby Union, 25 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: but they pulled the offer at the last moment. He 26 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: was struggling. He was off the back of a really 27 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: difficult year. He was diagnosed with bipola last year, and 28 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: then they made a play for David for Frieda, he 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: actually signed their backflip and Angus didn't became disgruntled over that. 30 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: So he wasn't happy that. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: No, he wasn't, even though Robbo said at the time 32 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: there is room for both. I remember when the story 33 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: broke for Frieda had signed Robert Trollers, right, yeah, well 34 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: there are. But then for Freda was getting more than 35 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: Angus was getting and he wasn't happy. Then he's burst 36 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: into this barn storming form that what last six weeks 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: eight weeks, and the money Roosters originally offered him has 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: gradually gone up. Today they finally reached a group for 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: two years. 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: I think he's been the best background the comp for 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: the last six six eight weeks and he deserves all 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: the credit because you're right, but he was he was 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: basically gone. He was gone to Montpellier and France at 44 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 4: one point as well, rugby in France. And he's just 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: worked hard and he's got himself back and he's played, 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: and he was so good in Origin and last week 47 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: I hate to say it as a Queensland was but 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: he terrorized Daali chair Evans a week ago in Origin 49 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: and he's just been playing fantastic Cordy. 50 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: It's been some turn around Vegas, hasn't it. 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 5: Absolutely twenty eight years of age, you'd think as a backgrower. 52 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 5: As a forward, I think you several lot more. I 53 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: think the next four years will be his best four years. 54 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 5: There's no doubt. So by the time he's thirty two, 55 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 5: I reckon he knows his game. He can see he's 56 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 5: comfortable in the way that he's playing his game. He's 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: a mountain. He's got his major back. 58 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: That's for sure. 59 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: Compared to like I reckon, he always he's always had 60 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 5: this ability, but the consistency is something that he has 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: never had in his games. 62 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: I think it's a really good marriage. Crichton Brewsters. They 63 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 3: stuck by him so loyal, so solidly last year when 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: there were doubts. But he might even play football again. 65 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: But he's why he's sure, is mate. That's his club though. 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, And you know what if there are any 67 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 5: chance and the roosters are on the way up. If 68 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: there any chances this year, this guy needs to be 69 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 5: playing the way. He's really good for the Rooster's good 70 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: timing for them. 71 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: They are on a hot streak at the moment in 72 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: our premiership contenders. But at the expense of the signing 73 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: of Crichton, they lose Touperneur who signs with the Bulldogs. Really, 74 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: this is not good news for the Roosters, great news 75 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: for the Bulldogs. 76 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: He he's a really good sign Yeah. 77 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: And I think they'll play Villa on kickout on one 78 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: edge and Tilly Tupanuur on the other. Jake Preston won't 79 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: move back to the bench or plays a lock, and 80 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: I think it's it's a great signing for them because 81 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 4: he's versatile Stilly, he can play a middle as well. 82 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: And he's got a relationship there with guys I got 83 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: them Hardigan and Travis Tumas, so those guys and the Dogs. 84 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: And basically when the anger situation evolved and changed, the 85 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: club said to STILLI look go out and have a 86 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: look at what's out there for you. Come back to 87 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: us once Angus has made a decision. Angus made his 88 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: decision today, didn't waste any time mainly we're in for 89 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: Stilli as well, and we're really optimistic with him. But 90 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: the Bulldogs prevailed and he's another great sign for the 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: Dogs for a club that's. 92 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: On the up. Thoughts buzz, look chose. 93 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: The Roosters are normal. They have a salary cap like 94 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: everyone and were ready ready. 95 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: Laughing, just laughing because you said he was on eight 96 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: point one minute earlier. 97 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: You want to get back there. Yeah, you've got a 98 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: whole real views. Look, Gord, you're. 99 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: You've been very heavy on the rooster's cap. 100 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: I've heard you on this show. That's right. 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I just me, as a fan of the game, 102 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 5: I think, like all the other fans, how do they 103 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: have that roster? And you, I'm telling you now, so 104 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 5: you want to pick the fight? Does Uncle Nick say 105 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 5: I give him a premiership roster every year? 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: Name every other club that has that? Every year? You 107 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: tell me the clubs. 108 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: This isn't about the. 109 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 5: You just made it about me, and I'm just every 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: year they got a premiership winning cap. I'm never gonna 111 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: walk away from saying the Roosters have the best team 112 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 5: and I. 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: Don't know how they keep all those players every year? 114 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 5: Well, like every other team in the leaving Yes, but 115 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 5: can we get back next year the Unlet's see who 116 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: replaces those guys. 117 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: Will be interesting. 118 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: So it's funny that there's a guy at the Times 119 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 5: on a million dollars and they go after him. Yeah, 120 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: so you've got to have some sort of money. 121 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: I find it hilarious the longer I need a wa Yes. 122 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Well, off the back of what we're just talking about, 123 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: the rooster is a chance of snagging him in season. 124 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: Huge chance, huge chesse break. He'll go to the Olympics 125 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: with the seventh team. They launched paper papers for Mark. 126 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: Today with the n r L. 127 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: The under has got ten days ten days to approve them. 128 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: I think they will and I think when he gets 129 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: back from the Olympics he'll be the with the roosters. 130 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: What are the conditions ready on this signing. Well, there's some. 131 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: Conditions around it to make sure it doesn't become a precedent. 132 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: So I basically have said during the life of this 133 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: contract the two year dearly can't play sevens again. 134 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: They're basically saying this is one off. 135 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: And the second thing is they basically said he can't 136 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: have played professional rugby league before going to rugby just 137 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: to prevent players jumping over and having a short stint 138 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: rugby then coming back. So they've said that that can't 139 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: apply or that can't happen. So that's sort of a 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: couple of the rule stipulations around this deal. But as 141 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: I said, I expect them to get the clearance to 142 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: have him place. 143 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: Position will be. 144 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: With Joey Marnhout. We're Billy Smith gone for the season, 145 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: Jennings and new so I think we'll find they might 146 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: give him a whack at center. 147 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I reckon he's more of a winger break, but 148 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: I think your started as a wing because they've got 149 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: Sawa Lee you can play in the centers. 150 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: I think they'll look to start him on the wing 151 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: and see how he goes. 152 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: You go rus Is with a big signing there roster 153 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: rumblings at the Newcastle nice. This is an interesting one. 154 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I've heard this myself. They are well, I don't want 155 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: to name a figure, but I will. I'm here and 156 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: they are over the cap by a very long way, 157 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: like you're from here a million dollars. 158 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Is that true? 159 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the next year. Well, I 160 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: think they've got cap issues. That's pretty clear and I 161 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: think Peter Sullivan's gone in there and had to look 162 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: under the bonnet and I don't think he's happy with. 163 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: What how do they get a cap? Point? Well, you 164 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: can't be over how do you get you can't. 165 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: Be over the cap because the end I won't register 166 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: contracts if you're over the. 167 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Case exactly what's what's my point? So I don't know how. 168 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that's I can't Well, they can't be 169 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: because then I wouldn't register floating because I think there 170 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: at a position where they're under the cap, but they're 171 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: roster spots on field, so they can't sign more players 172 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: because their caps that. 173 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: It's very limit. 174 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: They're not the cap the cap, but if they sign 175 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: more players, I go over the cap and you've got to. 176 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: Play a lot of overpaid footballers. You know, you're talking 177 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: about the rooster's roster. You and see the value in 178 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: the roster with the Knights outside of Ponger, I do 179 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: not see. 180 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's what Sally's going on. 181 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: So just going back then, So for Newcastle fans, yes, 182 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: next year they're going to let go of two, three 183 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: four players and they can't afford to sign any others. 184 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, they will. 185 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: Because they'll let go of say Daniel so Fidi, who's 186 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: been told he's free to leave. 187 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: Else who's on over one hundred thousand, he's a chance 188 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: to go with Jack Jack heathern Bray. 189 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: I don't think brother has been told right now he 190 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: can go, but it will happen. I imagine the next 191 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: week or so that he'll be told, if you can 192 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: find something else, it's free to go. 193 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: Told us you had those three blokes together, Blake sitting 194 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: at home having dinner. 195 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm sure he knows. I'm sure he's got an. 196 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: Indication of what's happening. 197 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: But if you add those three blokes together, that's almost 198 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: two million dollars his salary. 199 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: Cats. So who are they going for then, well they. 200 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 4: Were obviously him for Blaze to Lungey. I think that's 201 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: been pretty well documented. They spoke to Lochlan Milly's break one. 202 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: Did Blase Lummy? Yeah? 203 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: Who's his agent? Where is he is a player? 204 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: They can get him helps if but where is Bla 205 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: is going to play or something? Someone in the outside back? 206 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 4: So imagine is there a problem? We've got a fallback? 207 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: Good one, good ones? 208 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Actually, can we be fair? 209 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: Inc Isaac Moss managers had Brian and manages Peter Sali. 210 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't manage Peter, Okay he didn't. He did the 211 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: Peter the deal. He doesn't manage Peter. He never managed him. 212 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: He helped him Peter to do a termination deal with 213 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. Wasn't there that when he last left the 214 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: club a club The termination deal wasn't a good deal. 215 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 4: He did himself. So he got someone in to help 216 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: him do the deal. The termination deal with the Dolphins. 217 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: He got Isaac can help him do that deal because 218 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: I has good relationships with the Dolphins, so helped get 219 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: the deal done. 220 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: He's got to be at Newcastle. He was talking this 221 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: from George as well. 222 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: But look that's what he doesn't manage it do the deal. 223 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: To make my point, the three players who are being 224 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: shown the door are managed by the people and they're 225 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: being replaced where a player from my name. 226 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: He may not go there, he may stay at Paramount, 227 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: he might go to the Dragons. 228 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: Shane clings in for him because I'm just trying to 229 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: get this through my head. 230 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: So the same manager, he manages the coach and he 231 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: did the deal for a recruitment officer to join the club. 232 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: That the coach is also manage No, I think he 233 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: did the deal. I'm not sure if he did the 234 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: deal out the nights. 235 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: He did, I'm sure? 236 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: Is that is that all right? Is that? Well? 237 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: This the only question I was going to ask you. 238 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: What's Peter Sullivan's job to do deals, isn't it? So 239 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: that's his job to sign and contract. He can't do 240 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: his own player, but then he can't do his own 241 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 5: that's my. 242 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: Terminations your job, that's your job. 243 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 5: Think does termination grace manager? I'm pretty sure he manages 244 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 5: his own affairs. That's my job to get people to 245 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 5: do contracts. You should be pretty good at negotiating and. 246 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: Doing You better to get someone who's not in the 247 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: middle of it to take the emotion that I want 248 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: to He's got. He had an emotional involvement with the 249 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: Dolphins and he had to get I would I would 250 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: have thought it was smart to remove yourself from the 251 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: equation to get someone. 252 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: I just think it's a it's a concern so in 253 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: our game if you continue, I'm just saying, if I 254 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: might not do anything wrong, but it's a bad look 255 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: for the fiend. 256 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: If I'm a fan and if I'm at the night. 257 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: Solomon's got a great track record, Roosters, we're not doing. 258 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is I'll back him to rebuild new cast. 259 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: So it is an unfortunate his own deal. 260 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: It's an unfortunate position that he's found himself in. If 261 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: you bring in a big Isaac Moses player. 262 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: I don't think Blasee to Lange is a big Isaac. 263 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: You don't think your old kid regarded. 264 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Let's move on the Dragons and the Dogs move into 265 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: the top eight. Great news for both of these teams 266 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: and their fans. 267 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: The Canary Bulldogs sitting in. 268 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Fifth position, that's right, fifth position, and your team down there, 269 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: the Dragons does they. 270 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: Have moved into eighth off the back of a. 271 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: Few wins and a great performance and coaching effort from 272 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: both of these coaches. 273 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: Correct, my team's actually running third. Then they got. 274 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Better on the way you d But yeah they did. 275 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: You know, haven't Cannoby haven't played finals football for eight 276 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: years and George for six years. Both have just achieved 277 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: some wonderful stuff this year. Were so painful a corp 278 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: the other night with getting beat and golden point. But 279 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: the way Cameron Surroundo has got that football side before me. 280 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: Do you think they can get to the final? Didn't 281 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: they two if they have played in the Grand final. 282 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not about the Grand final, but I think 283 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: they'll make the semi. 284 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: The way they're defending even on the weekend. 285 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: Their attack still isn't great, but like Matt Burton's kicking game, 286 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: it was out of this world, Like they weren't making 287 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: as many meters, are struggling to get out of their 288 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty and he would kick them out of 289 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: trouble and they kick chasing with KICKU and Marny was 290 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: is relentless and then they just come up with the 291 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: right plays at the right time now, which they haven't 292 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: been doing for the past few seasons. A big turnaround 293 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: for a very proud club that are not many thought 294 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: they could get it done. 295 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 4: I think that I think their finals bound break. I've 296 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: said it for a few weeks now. I think this 297 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 4: was a bit. This was a huge win for them. 298 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: You know, I think that the table's a little deceptive 299 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: because you know, technically the Cowboys are above them. They've 300 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: won more games. They probably should be sixth. 301 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: It comes to Grench. 302 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: A're a mix of clubs. 303 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: There's about clubs. 304 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: Can I just say something? 305 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: Make it? 306 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: We all said at the beginning of the year, or 307 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: most of us, that they didn't have the front rows, 308 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: they didn't have the half back. They hadn't All they'd 309 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: done was sign utility players, six or seven of them, 310 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: and they've done it. 311 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: What were you going to do? 312 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: We had a discussion last week on the Thursday, what 313 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: were you going to do with the Sharks? 314 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: But I must admit I was very confident Sharks were 315 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: going to win. I was going to go to Rebel 316 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: Sport this morning. I was going to buy a Shark's jersey. 317 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: I was going to take it out and put Braith 318 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: on the back and it across. 319 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on a buddy. What about the Dragons. 320 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: We were about to talk to Shane Funnying very soon. What 321 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: a job he's doing with that club. You talk about 322 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: the Bulldogs and their expectations and where the fans had 323 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: them to start season twenty twenty four. Well, the Dragons 324 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: many had finishing last and they are playing fantastic footing. 325 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: No sidelined for this game, brath They were into the 326 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: wind and against with the wind of the first half, 327 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: and I thought second second half into the wind. They're 328 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: in all sorts, but they just dominated the Dolphins in 329 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: the second half, dominated them. Jade and sew Are coming 330 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: out of origin. He was unbelievable for the Dragons. Played 331 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: center for a lot of that game as well, Jaden. 332 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: So he's done a great job with really impressive job. 333 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Zach makes I like the people they picked 334 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: up and their ex Bulldogs Kyle Flanagh, and I think 335 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,239 Speaker 3: it's done a terrific job under a huge pressure of nepotism. 336 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: Being the coach's son, Raymond for Tellamarna, Lucian le Lua, 337 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: you know, Cowboys were happy to send him packing, and 338 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: he's picked these footballers up, put him into a really 339 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: powerful outfit. I'm not sure they can make the eighth, 340 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: but they'll be there banging on the door. 341 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: It shows how important a good coaches in the modern day, 342 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. 343 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: Now we'll go back. 344 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: We spoke about the Bulldogs get the Sharks, and we 345 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: have to address it. 346 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: Nico. 347 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: Is he struggling? Buzz You know you're a Sharks fan. 348 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: You know Nicko very well. Where have you got him 349 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: at the moment? 350 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: I think anyone in his position would be struggling on 351 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: the back of getting dumped from Origin. He missed a 352 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: sideline conversion the last home game that would have leveled 353 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: the scores. Yeah, Dolphins, he missed a field goal that 354 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: a million dollar playmaker was expected to kick. And Nicko 355 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: is notoriously hard on himself in the best of circumstances. 356 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think he is struggling. But you know what, 357 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: there's a lot of people at Cronala will back him 358 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: to come out of it. 359 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of So how does he overcome? 360 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 5: And if you've got a player that carries their divot 361 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: right and they carry their mistakes with. 362 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: Them, how does he overcome it? 363 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 5: So I don't blame him for the twelve minutes of Origin, 364 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 5: and I don't blame him being twelve men down this year. 365 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 5: I think I think that is harsh criticism. But to 366 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 5: ice the games for the Sharks, you're playing the dogs 367 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: there below you, you're both ice. 368 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: He should have kicked it right, There's no doubt about that. 369 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: And it shows where he is at. And I'm not 370 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: going to throw stones because I've been exactly where he is. 371 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 2: You know. 372 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: It's when you're a half and you're playing well, you 373 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: feel like you can you're invincible and you can do anything, 374 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: and he could have kicked that left footed when he 375 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: was in it. But then when you get the knock 376 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: back from Origin, then you get put in, you get beat, 377 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: then you get replaced. Mitchell Moses steps in and gets 378 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: Men of the Match, and then you think your Origin 379 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: careers could possibly be over and you want to try 380 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: and put it to the side. But it's so much 381 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: easier said than done, it really is. You've got everyone 382 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: talking about you, a lot of it's majority of it 383 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: is negative. The only way out of it is to 384 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: play yourself out of it. You need to stay positive. 385 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: You need the people around you to support you, you need 386 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: your club to support you, and you need to ice 387 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: one of those moments. 388 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: If you ice that moment, there it's gone. It's fine. 389 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: But now it's sort of like it's sort of like. 390 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: Greek Norman winning the Green Jacket or Rory Macroy at 391 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: the moment trying to win a. 392 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: Major after ten years. 393 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: It tends to get into your head and then you know, 394 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: but before you know, you get deeper, and you get 395 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: deeper and it's hard to get out, so there is 396 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: only one way out. 397 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: I feel sorry for him, actually, the moment. 398 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: He's probably under the spotlight more than any other player 399 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: in the n r L because he's Nico Heinz and 400 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: he's struggling, and. 401 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: It's because he's one of DELI him. I think. 402 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, give Latrell. 403 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: Honestly, look where Latrell's coming. Where he was on everybody 404 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: months ago. Everybody's doubted themselves, That's what I'm saying. 405 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: But you need strong leaders around you and then like 406 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 5: you're lucky to play with guys roll, they can pull 407 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 5: you back. 408 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: I think they got the Titans and the West Tigers 409 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: next week, couple of the You know, if he plays 410 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: in those games, it won't be until they play pen. 411 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: Surrounded by strong it's given to strong, strong, smart, but 412 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: it's on the people around him. 413 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: It's on the field. 414 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: And he was good after the He can give him 415 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: any excuses. He said, he should have nailed it and 416 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: he remains tough and strong, one in which you need 417 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: to be. 418 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: The Dolphins are four losses in five games. 419 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: I believe now, Buzz, you wrote that story last week 420 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: about Wayne coaching two teams at the moment, has this changed? 421 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: Has this changed anything? 422 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: Is that made you think that even more well, I've 423 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: said it that he's doubled dipping basically that, and I'm 424 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: trying not to be critical of him. But he is 425 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: looking forward to South Sydney. 426 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: We know he is. 427 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 3: We have evidence. Whenever you pick up a paper, a 428 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: Souse player is talking about a phone conversation he had 429 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: with Wayne. How Wayne has helped us turn the season around. 430 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: Which which is true. 431 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 3: He's involved in recruitment, he got young Humphreys from Manly 432 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: last week. 433 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 5: I had an old coach tell me you can't do 434 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: two things one hundred percent. I reckon he can do 435 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 5: both jobs. 436 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm just looking at analytical. 437 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: I don't think it's an issue. I've said it before 438 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: I start again. I think Waynes won seven comps. He's 439 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 4: done this for god knows what thirty years, forty years, 440 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 4: forty is you know, he's been around long enough. 441 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it would impact. 442 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: I think I think a bigger issue for them is 443 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: they've got some blokes out with injury. They look tired. 444 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: I think younger Tower looks tired. They missed a lot 445 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: of tackles, their halves have missed. Cody nicker Rim has 446 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 4: had a really good year. But again those halves are 447 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 4: defensively well, I mean, Wayne's going with. 448 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: The best of what he's got at the moment, but 449 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: there is history ready. 450 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: When Wayne does leave a club a struggle and new 451 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: Castle and the Wooden Spoons, that normally is there. But 452 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying magic when he's looking forward to Souse 453 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: and not taking so much interest in the Dolphins, I. 454 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Think that's really unfair. 455 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: When he left for the Broncos and they went. 456 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 4: To suggest Wayne isn't focused on the Dolphins and isn't 457 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: caring enough about the Dolphins, a club Wayne built from 458 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 4: the bottom up. 459 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: They built together. 460 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: I did not say he's not focused on the Dolphins. 461 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: What I said is he's trying to do two jobs 462 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: at one. 463 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: You're saying he's not one hundred percent focused on the Dolphins, Well. 464 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: He can't be. Why is he ringing opposite Souse players? 465 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? 466 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: I don't understand what the issue is with that, as 467 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 4: long as it's not impacting on the twenty. 468 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: Issue, because these Dolphins players need his twenty four to 469 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: seven care because they've lost four out of five. 470 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 4: Twenty four to seven buzz. They don't need in twenty 471 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: four to seven. 472 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Graham Man as it's Abby kurras I shouldn't have 473 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: been SimBin for a lifting tackle in the Tigers loss 474 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: to the Roosters. It comes as several high profile coaches 475 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: question the consistency around Sinbin's and six agains. 476 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 6: So you can see there's no question here that Happy 477 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: does lift. The really important thing here is whether the 478 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 6: player reaches a dangerous position where the first point of 479 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 6: contact with the ground will be the players head or neck. 480 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 6: It's because of the way the player lands on the ground. 481 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: Probably should not have been sinbin. You know, there's been 482 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 6: talk about whether a five minutes sinbin should be introduced 483 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 6: or not. The commissions decided not to do that. You know, 484 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 6: we used to have five minutes in bins and ten 485 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 6: minutes sinbins, and the reason that was eliminated was because 486 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 6: of accusations of inconsistency. 487 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: The rules are what they are. 488 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 6: Everyone has to work within those rules at the moment, 489 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 6: and the rules shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody. 490 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 6: Everyone knows what they are. 491 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: Yes. 492 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: Watching this game, I certainly couldn't believe it. I didn't 493 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: think it was a sinbin. 494 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: At the time. 495 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Abby Chorus Hour reminded me a lot of the Roger 496 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: two of us A check one which I didn't think 497 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: should have been a sinbin last week or the week before. 498 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: This one wasn't even as bad. There's no contact with 499 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: the head. The head doesn't even go close to the ground. Yes, 500 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: he goes past the horizontal, but if this is a sinbin, 501 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: what the hell's. 502 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: Going on the game? 503 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: I've been banging on from the first Monday when we 504 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: got back from Las Vegas about the consistency of the bunker. 505 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: Who I blame more than the repute, But how. 506 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: Do we look at this? 507 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: And how does anyone anywhere look at this and go, oh, 508 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: that's a sindy. 509 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: But I find it. It's happened too often this year. 510 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: I think there's a definite issue with the look. You're 511 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: never going to get consistency break. It's impossible to understand. 512 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: What you've got to reduce is that the wild inconsistency 513 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: at the moment leans the inconsistency is too dramatic. 514 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 5: I think they're gauging the tackles on back in the 515 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: eighties because once the legs went over the horizontal, it 516 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 5: was one in the tackle, so you landed pretty much 517 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: on your shoulders or your neck. Now there's another guy 518 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 5: in the tackle. They sort of comfort them to the 519 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: ground so the legs can be higher than you, but 520 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 5: they don't get in a dangerous position. 521 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know how the bunker. 522 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: But I think we've done our job. They're getting it 523 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: wrong too much. I think we've done the job enough 524 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: now that you could see they're appy. Gets him and 525 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: he goes, oh, you know, so that the players are aware, 526 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: so that you know, so they are aware and they're 527 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: not going any further past the horizontal. So it's like, okay, 528 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: we've done our job. Now the players actually are aware 529 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: of this. The same with the high shots. You know 530 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: that you can see them going into players pulling out 531 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: in the tackles pulling out. 532 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: Now. I thought he was unlucky with his one as well. 533 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 3: But anyway, you know, in fairness, the NL I can't 534 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: argue with the lack of consistency. But sin binnings are 535 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 3: substantially down this year. They're down fourteen percent. So we 536 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: haven't despite what a lot of these coaches are saying, 537 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: they're sort of not over using it compared to last year. 538 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: But we've had half a dozen shockers like that one. 539 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: And we say it if that happened in the Grand Final, 540 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: the dead said uproar, there'd be protests in the streets. 541 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: Six agains. 542 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: A lot of the coaches have been upset over the 543 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: weekend with I suppose they're just not sure what all 544 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: the six agains before? You mentioned at Gordy after Origin, 545 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: you haven't had an issue with it. 546 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: What's your take on? 547 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 5: I love the real because I know why it come 548 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: in because Cameron Smith would challenge, not camera, but they'd 549 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 5: walk up, they'd challenge every decision, they'd have a cup 550 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: of tea, they would slow it down and that's the 551 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 5: way teams slowed down. 552 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: So six again was to keep the momentum in the game. 553 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 5: The only issue I have is I'm happy for the 554 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 5: six against Just tell me what they're for because sometimes 555 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: I'm sitting at home and rock infringement can be twenty 556 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 5: different things, and I think coaches must be frustrated because 557 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: they're the. 558 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: Ones that live and die by the sword. They don't 559 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: know what they say. What the six again, Well, I 560 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't hear. I don't think they don't. 561 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: Well, it doesn't come through and I'm not sure it 562 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 5: goes into the coach's box. 563 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: Just the pace of the game. God, the whole Royal 564 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: was designed to keep a flow in the game. And 565 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: sometimes you can't just stop for the punters us watching it. 566 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: Can't you say? Offside hands and too slow? Yeah, don't 567 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: you say they do that. 568 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to buy you all with stats all night, 569 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: but I check the restarts as well. You know they're 570 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: up this year twenty five percent or set restarts doings? Well, 571 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: who's but I haven't been Aaron Wallace from The Fox. 572 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: I did them for me, one of the best loss. 573 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: Sorry for coming on, I. 574 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: Don't apologize again. 575 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: Continue, sorry for doing homework. 576 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: Go on. 577 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'm suggesting that they might be overusing it this year. Okay, 578 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: and that's aside from the confusion. 579 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: But so you agree with me about originals over used 580 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: the ten in events. That's good. I'll learn something. Buzzy, 581 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: stick around, stick around? 582 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Ready plenty want to come and next Wednesday seeing Goodman 583 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: risk a million dollar pay day in a world titled 584 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: Eliminated Live and exclusive on main event