WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 21 November 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:04.600 This is the US Report. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.320 Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caroline Marcus. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.640 Coming up tonight. Trump orders the Epstein files to be released. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:20.480 So what will the Democrats complain about now? The President 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.720 of CoP's criticism for his meeting with the Saudi Crown Prince. 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:26.639 Plus why has. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.880 Our safety commissioner been summoned to the US Congress. Republican 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.520 Congressman Jim Jordan will join me shortly to explain why. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.280 But first, in what could be the biggest one point 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.440 eighty of his second term, US President Donald Trump has 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:48.800 signed legislation allowing the US Justice Department to release the 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:54.000 Epstein files. Posting on truth Social the President wrote, I 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.840 have just signed the bill to. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.120 Release the Epstein files. At my direction. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.880 The Department of Justice has already turned over close to 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.400 fifty thousand pages of documents to Congress. Do not forget 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:12.000 the Biden administration did not turn over a single file 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:16.760 or page related to Democrat Epstein, nor did they ever 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:21.240 even speak about him. The House voted earlier this week 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.319 to release the files by a margin of four hundred 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.440 and twenty one to one, the one holdout being Republican 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.520 Clay Higgins. He said he doesn't support the release because 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:37.319 this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:42.399 people who provided alibis, family members, etc. But it was 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.160 a move celebrated by many victim survivors. The Senate then 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.320 voted unanimously in favor of the bill. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:52.680 We're going to have a moment. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.240 Of silence where I think we should just have a 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.360 moment of celebration. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:01.440 For decades, these survivors have fought tirelessly. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:06.480 Today we are clother than ever now. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:11.640 The new Epstein Files Transparency Act directs the Department to 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:17.200 release all unclassified materials related to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:22.080 his partner and accomplice, Gislaine Maxwell, within thirty days. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:27.080 We will continue to follow the law with maximum transparency 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.120 while protecting victims. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.680 But this has been an issue that's caused something of 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.040 a rift in Trump's magabase. Many MAGA supporters have been 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.960 calling for the files to be released for some time. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.959 Trump has long resisted, despite saying there would be nothing 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:49.040 personally incriminating. The worst fallout was with Trump's one time 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:55.320 close ally, Republican Marjorie Taylor Green, who he called a traitor, wacky, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.320 and a disgrace, and. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.480 He called me a trader for standing with these women 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.760 and refusing to take my name off. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:04.720 The discharge petition. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.320 Let me tell you what a trader is. A trader 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:14.600 is a is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.200 A patriot is an American that serves the United States 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.880 of America and Americans like the women standing behind me. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:30.000 Trump had also berated a female reporter who asked about 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.959 the release in an undignified exchange on Air Force one 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:45.720 last week. But Trump finally seems to have come around 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.480 and now is warning those on the other side of 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.160 the isle who have hounded him on this to be 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:52.680 careful what they wish for. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.320 As far as the Epstein files is, I have nothing 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.160 to do with Jeffrey Epstein. I threw him out of 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.120 my club many years years though, because I thought he 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.960 was a sick pervert. But I guess I would turn out 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.720 to be right. But you know who does have Bill Glenton. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.320 Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.040 every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:16.840 island many times. I never did. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.200 Andrew Westman here. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.680 All these guys were friends of his. You don't even 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:24.880 talk about those people. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.160 And it's now come to light that in the last 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:33.560 tranch of Epstein files release last week were never before 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:39.600 seen text messages from twenty seventeen implicating tech billionaire Bill Gates. 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.640 Epstein wrote to one of Gates's apparent advisors about a 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.480 business proposal and got the reply he wants to talk 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.760 to you, but his wife won't let him. He loves you, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.160 says Hi, and feels bad about the business proposals. By 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:59.080 the way, now, Gates hasn't been charged with any crime, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.080 but his and now ex wife Melina, has said that 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.640 his friendship with Epstein was a key factor in their divorce. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:12.360 Expect to see many more marriage breakdowns with these files release, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:19.840 and much worse over the next few weeks. Joining me 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.359 now is former White House Chief of Staff and senior 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.400 advisor at Bondi Partners, Mick Mulvainy. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:27.960 Nick, thanks for joining me. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.799 Let's start with one of the biggest stories of the week, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.640 and that's President Trump signing the release of the Epstein files. Mick, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.880 I've spoken about his change of heart on the Epstein files, 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.200 but why do you think he finally supported the release. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.839 I don't think how much choice, Caroline, Donald Trump doesn't 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.200 usually get on the wrong side of eighty percent issues. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.479 It's one of the reasons that he decided to go 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.839 ahead and encourage Republicans to vote for the bill that 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.719 came out of a House that resulted in this piece 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.240 of legislation being on his desk. So I think he 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.359 saw which way the wind is blowing, and he decided 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.320 to go ahead and get in front of it. It's 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.239 been a stunning turn of events, twenty four to forty 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.800 eight hours maximum between the time that he was against 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.120 signing this bill to the time that he actually signed it. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.720 So it's not the end of the discussion. As you know, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.640 they'd be very curious to see in the next thirty days, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.880 as the legislation requires, what exactly the Department of Justice 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.599 will or will not put out. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.400 Well, there is a thirty day deadline for the Department 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.200 to release the documents. They can I guess redact some 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:35.400 of it depending on victims and active investigations. But there 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.640 seems to be such a build up to this. Do 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.599 you think there'll be anything substantial left in the files 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.000 that are yet to be released, because we have had 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.200 obviously we've seen some emails, some documents come out before 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:49.640 you know. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.800 Maybe I'm just a little bit cynical than most people. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.880 I don't think this is the end of the discussion. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.760 I don't think we're going to see these whole files. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.600 I really don't. I think this is going to end 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.320 up going down in history like the Kennedy files, and 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.480 it's unlikely that we'll ever see all of this in 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.440 its entirety. I just get that feeling from watching Republicans 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.200 on the Hill that they've been focusing very sort of 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:17.040 specifically on the exemptions and the exceptions, the national security exception, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.320 some of the other limitations in the actual piece of 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:25.440 limit of legislation, things for ongoing investigations, for example. And 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.760 I think you might see in the next thirty days 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:33.040 that if there is any sort of disclosure of documents, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.400 it's certainly not going to be full. Maybe I'm wrong 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.240 about that, but I know a little bit about. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.120 Washington, well, that could open it up to a whole 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.800 lot more conspiracy theories about what really happened, what happened 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.960 to Jeff Ray Epstein when he died, If it really 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.760 was suicide, do you think there's something sinister behind that, 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.200 is that someone that they want to protect. Is just 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:00.800 a case, in your view, of not interfering withational security 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:01.760 and ongoing. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.320 Certainly not anything sinister, Caroline. As I've talked about many 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.040 many times, I can't imagine there's anything really bad about 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.800 Donald Trump in the file, because if there were, the 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.400 Democrats who had this file for four years, would have 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.760 put it out. I just don't think the federal government 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:22.360 is capable of making true and full disclosure. And even 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:23.920 if they put out a lot of stuff, will it 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.240 satisfy everybody? I don't know. Keep in mind, most of 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.400 the best evidence available, real hard evidence, is that Lee 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.040 Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing John Kennedy. But sixty 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.080 percent of the country still thinks there was somebody else involved, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.280 you know, more than sixty years later. So it's going 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:46.320 to be a fascinating sort of experiment in the American process. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.480 Can the federal government, regardless of who's in charge, really 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.839 fully disclose something we're going to we're going to see 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:54.880 here in the next thirty days. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:56.640 Yeah, we certainly will. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.240 I talked at the top of the show about the 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.960 split in the MAGA movement with Marjorie Taylor Green labeled 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.560 a trader by the president over her longtime calls for 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.840 the files to be released, and then Green hitting back 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.720 at Trump's comments, Mick, do you think this is a 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:17.280 concern what's happening, what seems to be happening among the base. 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.360 No, I think it's limited to to not only Epstein. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.040 I think it's limited to Marjorie Taylor Green. And it 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.080 wasn't just her comments about the Epstein files that they 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.600 got Donald Trump where he is in their relationship. She 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.360 was on television here she was an entirely different sort 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.880 of person, different politician, different messaging. Donald Trump is still 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.080 very much the leader of the Republican Party, certainly much 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.120 more so than Marjorie Taylor Green. I think she's about 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.200 to learn some very difficult lessons about who really is 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.480 the big name in the MAGA movement, and it's not she. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.440 So look, I didn't expect to see this falling out. 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.280 It happened again, very very rapidly, almost as rapidly as 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.320 the Epstein files themselves, as that piece of legislation. But 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.440 at the end of the day, I still think Donald 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.000 Trumps as a stranglehold on the leadership of the MAGA movement, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.000 as he should. He's he built this. What will be 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.240 interesting to see, Caroline, is what happens next. Will there 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.439 be other things that come down the line that members 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.400 of the Republican Party are willing to break from the 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.959 president on. Will they break with him on tariffs? Will 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.800 they break with him on say, military action in Venezuela. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.200 That will be the interesting thing to see. Is Epstein 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.800 an outlier and just one thing? Or is this part 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.719 of a trend? But I don't think Marjorie Taylor Green 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:29.840 tells as much about any of that. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.439 Okay, well, it certainly will be interesting to see. I 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.280 want to get your thoughts now on the President hosting 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.360 Saudi Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salmon in Washington this week. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.520 It's caused a lot of controversy, especially since US intelligence 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.319 said that the Saudi's approved the moto of Washington Post 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.040 journalist Jamal Kashoji Mick. I'm going to get my thoughts 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.360 on this later in the show. But do you think 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.880 the criticism that's been aimed at the President over this 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.480 in the past week has been intents? 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.360 No, I don't. I think if there's any criticism. It 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.480 was the one line that Trump used had said that 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.040 that that NBS didn't know anything about it. I think 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:13.199 our own intelligences. That's that's inaccurate. But that one line aside, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:17.440 I have absolutely no difficulty with the President treating Muhammed 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.840 bin Selman as the as the crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Look, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.840 this is the real world, Caroline. You know, this is 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.680 real politic, and there's that it is in the United 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:31.880 States national interest to have a good relationship with Saudi Arabia, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.240 and that means having a good relationship with the crown Prince. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.400 And you know, is that sound horrible and it sounds 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.080 terrible about you're ignoring what happened to Jamal Kushogi. Maybe, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.240 but that is the way the world works. Let's not 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.000 lose sight of the fact that Joe Biden went to 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.000 Saudi Arabia to meet with MBS and oh my goodness, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.760 he did a fist pump instead of a handshake. Does 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.640 that really make a difference. No, This is an absolutely 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.520 critical country, has been for a long time. Is even 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.160 more important now that Iran has been neutered by the 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.920 military action the American government took in the last several months. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.439 So this is a critical part of peace and prosperity. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.840 In the Mid East? Are they difficult people to work with? Look, 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.720 a lot of folks around the world are. That is 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.080 the real world. And I think Donald Trump was just 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.800 recognizing that and extending the courtesies that he did this 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.760 week to the Saudi Arabian leadership. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.760 Look, I mean, he is the deal maker, and this 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.080 is the art of making the deal, isn't it. Do 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.080 you think that he managed to get what he was 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.360 after in this meeting because he was hoping, I know, 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.840 that he would be able to get Saudi Arabia to 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.200 sign up to the Abraham Accords normalized relationships with Israel. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.960 They did announce a lot of investment in America. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.760 Do you think it was a success the visit. 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:43.840 I do. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:44.400 I do. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.400 And I recognize that the President's coming out of some 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.240 criticism for not getting a firm commitment on the Abraham Accords, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.600 for example, not getting firm written agreements on the investments. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.080 I think I do think he's going to get that. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.920 Keep in mind, the sale of the F thirty five's 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.240 is a big, big deal, and it's not going to 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.200 happen tomorrow. It's going to take some time, so there'd 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.480 be a chance to sort of feel each other out 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.520 as we go forward on how the progress is being 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.920 made on recognizing Israel, entering to the Abraham Accords, progress 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.440 being made on investment and so forth. You're not going 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.320 to see this happen overnight. But I do think it 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.640 was very successful. It's hard to describe it as anything. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:22.600 But so like you said that the President wanted a deal, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.920 he got a deal. Just because you don't see the 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.360 payoff on that in the next twenty four hours doesn't 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.160 mean this wasn't a huge success for the Trump administration. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.720 Okay, well, that should be good news because we want, 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.000 you know, there to be peace in that region and 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.920 we want good relationship, as you point out, with that country. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.560 The President has also confirmed he is set to meet 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.480 New York Mayor elect Zora and Mum Donnie tomorrow and 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.960 the White at the White House, and he's labeled him 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.559 again the Communist mayor of New York, and Donnie spoke 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.120 to the media about his upcoming meeting with the President. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:58.199 Take a look. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.120 No matter what someone describes me as or how someone 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.560 wants to speak about these policies, the important thing is 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.400 that they may care about the city. And I know 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.280 that with the President, there is an opportunity to make 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.160 the case for New Yorkers, and I'll make that case 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.840 to the President, will make that case to anyone in 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.200 this country that can help New Yorkers. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.920 Mick Trump has had a lot of harsh woods to 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.960 say about Mum Donnie, But how do you think their 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.680 meeting will go when they actually come face to face. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.920 It's fascinating and I have no idea, and I knowed 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.600 a little bit about Donald Trump, but I think that's 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.760 part of the point. Caroline, What is Trump? You know, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.560 the best I've ever seen at creating media buzz, creating 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.840 a narrative, creating messaging, creating news. He's a news making machine. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.160 I did not expect this one. I'll be perfectly honest 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.360 with you. I'd never expected him to invite Zorhan Mamdanni, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.440 the self described socialist mayor of New York, into the 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.640 Oval Office to have a discussion. It could be backslapping 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.720 and can't we all get along? It could be worse 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.280 than the Zelensky meeting. I have no idea. I do 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.440 know this and why and why it's happening. Donald Trump 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.080 cares a great deal about New York City. I think folks, 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.160 especially overseas don't realize he is a New York City boy. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.960 He cares about the city where I'm sitting right now, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.440 and he wants to know more about this mumdonni guy, 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.560 and he wants to meet him face to face. So look, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.440 anything literally could happen. They could end up shaking hands 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.960 and hugging it out and working hand in hand going forward. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.880 I have no idea they could end up in fisticuffs. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.120 That's a little bit of an exaggeration, but not much. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.080 It's going to make for must see television, which my 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.680 guess is is why it's happening. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.720 Yep, Yeah, absolutely right. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.960 It will be fascinating to see and that unpredictability. Unpredictability 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.720 is why we love watching Trump so much. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.120 Mick Malbiny, thank you so much for joining me. Thanks 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:42.560 Carly joining. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:46.120 Me now is FOLX News contributor Joe Concho. Joe, thanks 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.960 for joining me. I want to get your thoughts too 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.720 on President Trump signing the bill to release the Epstein files. Joe, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.880 what are you expecting to see out of these files 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.640 given we have had a drip feed of material over 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:01.440 many months. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.160 Yeah, Caroline, I would say that what we're not going 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.360 to see is anything that is damaging to Donald Trump. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.800 In other words, this is what I know, and I've 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.160 been saying this for many months now. That Donald Trump 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.800 was run for president three times in the United States 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.440 twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty four. Democrats were in 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.360 control of all aspects. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.400 Of government during most of those times. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.560 If you wanted to take Donald Trump out of the 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.440 equation as far as him winning the presidency, and he 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.360 did that twice, you probably would have released something damaging 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.160 by now from the Epstein files that they've had, Democrats 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.040 have all along. So I think in the end, we've 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.920 seen some embarrassing thing for Democrats, right in terms of 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.840 Epstein donating to Jakim Jeffries, who is the House speaker, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.920 for example, or trading text messages with a congressional woman 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:53.080 named Stacy Plaskett, even complimenting her on the way she 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.000 was dressed during a hearing where he was feeding her 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:59.160 information about Donald Trump. We also saw Epstein called Donald 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.840 Trump dangerous. And then all I know is that during 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:06.920 the first Trump administration in twenty nineteen, Trump indicted Jeffrey Epstein. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.679 So I think in the end, it's been a lot 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.240 of innuendo in terms of what is Trump trying to hide? 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.359 But this may be like the Russia hoax, where they 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.920 said Trump was including with Vladier Putin in the Kremlin 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.960 and it ended up having a boomerang effect. I have 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.840 a feeling that that's where we're going here, based on 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.679 the evidence that we've seen to this point. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.959 Yeah, Look, I think you're right, because when the Democrats 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.159 released some of those emails naming Trump recently, that was 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.159 a bit of a boomerang. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:31.840 Effect in itself. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.280 Having redacted the name of the victim, Virginia Jeffree, who 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.040 turned out to be someone who always said that Trump 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.520 never did anything wrong to her. Look, you mentioned Democrat 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:46.639 Stacey Plaskett, who had been texting Epstein during that twenty 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.359 nineteen congressional hearing. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:49.760 Now take a. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.959 Look at her excuse, as she was grilled about this 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:53.640 on CENATE. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.720 But like many constituents, individuals get your phone number, they 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.520 tech to you about issues, they speak with you. I 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.040 have spoken with him about issues that are relevant, things 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.520 that are going on in the Virgin Islands and elsewhere 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:09.280 around the country. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.439 Right, But on that day that we're talking about, you 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.200 initiated the tax exchange at seven fifty five in the morning. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.199 So why were you even texting with Epstein at the 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.360 time he was a known sex offender. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:24.600 Then sure, you know, I explain to people, I've been 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.160 a prosecutor for many years and there are a lot 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.920 of people who have information that are not your friends 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.879 that you use to get information for to get at 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:33.320 the truth. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:35.840 Joe, do you buy any of that? 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.760 I know, because again Epstein and her were going back 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.800 and forth where he was complimenting her outpit and She's like, oh, 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.760 thank you, So that sounded friendly to me. And by 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.960 the way, if you want credible information, I'm pretty sure 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.280 the last person you go to is somebody who is 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.960 a convicted sex offender who had been indicted several times. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.680 She was texting douring a hearing in an effort to 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.439 make Donald Trump look bad. She knows she's called. The 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.800 old saying is that when you're in a hole, stop digging. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.480 And right now, Stacey Plasket is halfway to China by now. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.520 In that regard, you could be right. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:08.760 Look. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:13.720 Speaking of to the Democrats, Florida Congresswoman Sheila Chafilis McCormack 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.439 was hit with a federal indictment Wednesday, accusing her of 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.960 stealing five million dollars in federal emergency funds to support 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:26.119 her twenty twenty one congressional campaign. She faces up to 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:30.280 fifty three years in prison if convicted. Joe, it seems 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.440 that these Democrats love to bring up any misdemeanor from 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.640 a Republican. But between this and Leticia James, I don't 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.600 think they have any moral high ground here left. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.679 Oh no, this proves that rock Bottom, you know, has 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.199 a basement right when you're talking about things like this, 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.320 like stealing money from FEMA when people are most in need, 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.439 especially in Florida that has been devastated by hurricanes in 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.960 the past couple of years. That is a whole bowl 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.600 of wrong and an eighth circle of hell that is 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.960 waiting for this person as a result if she is guilty, 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.120 of course, and found guilty. So yeah, that's the thing. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:08.080 In the American media, I'm barely seeing anything about this story. 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.320 I have a feeling if a Republican did this, it 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.040 would be twenty four to seven news. And that's the 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.560 double standard that we lived with here over the pond. 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.160 Yeah, such hypocrisy. We have very much the same situation 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:18.920 here in Australia. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:19.639 Don't you worry. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.679 Before I let you go, I want to speak to 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.520 you about Thomas Matthew Crooks, the man who tried to 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:28.720 assassinate President Trump on the campaign trail last year. You 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.920 spoke this week about how it was the most uncovered 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:36.119 story of the century. Joe, Why do you think that is? 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.680 I think because we had Let's see, Donald Trump was 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.359 the first president to be shot. I know he's a 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.480 candidate at the time, so he's a former president since 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:50.359 Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty one. And Thomas Crooks, he 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:55.600 carries out this assassination attempt. He outflanks the entire Secret Service, 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.960 local law enforcement, is able to fly a drone over 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:03.480 the rally site just a day beforehand and hide a 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:07.080 high power rifle excuse me, behind an air conditioner, and 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:08.520 that is able to get up on the roof of 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.359 the one building, the one building that had line of 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.080 sight to Donald Trump four hundred feet away, and when 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.400