WEBVTT - The Truth Behind MAFS' Jacqui & Clint's Relationship 

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast was recorded and produced on gadigle Land. We

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<v Speaker 1>would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians and pay our

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<v Speaker 1>respect to Elder's past and present. Ladies and gentlemen, Can

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<v Speaker 1>I please have your attention? This is my final maths

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<v Speaker 1>related interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they talking about me?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like yeah, it was Australia's reactions because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of drama and they never got it. It just went nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome back to back to reality. I'm Selena

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Tany and this week we have a very

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<v Speaker 1>exciting guests. He knows maths more than anyone on this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>So today on the show we have Ali Daha. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a showbiz reporter, a pap and have everything, bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a jolt threat and he is going to come

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<v Speaker 1>and give us all the maps TI give us inside

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<v Speaker 1>into everything. Really rethink yep, because he knows the ins

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<v Speaker 1>and outs, who's still together, who's after the clout? He

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<v Speaker 1>knows everything. He knows everything. And what is your first

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<v Speaker 1>time meeting Ali? Like, I feel like everyone has a

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<v Speaker 1>story that tell me, tell me about it. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>because like we shot during COVID time and everyone was leaked,

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<v Speaker 1>but we still had to wear our masks back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'd be walking down the city on George Street

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<v Speaker 1>and like Alie would run out of whatever little nook

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going because he's good, and he would

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<v Speaker 1>be like snap, snapstapstap snap. And I think when you're

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<v Speaker 1>filming masks, you don't really get to see what the

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<v Speaker 1>limelight's like. But when Arlie comes out of his little

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<v Speaker 1>hole start snapping you, You're like, oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 1>is feels like, you know, some kind of attention have

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<v Speaker 1>media on you. I remember so one time we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>because Arlie waits right, he waits all day and night.

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<v Speaker 1>He's down there. He's down there. We shot like I

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<v Speaker 1>think both of us shot sky Sweets in the city

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<v Speaker 1>and he's downstairs waiting for one of us to walk

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<v Speaker 1>out and be like snapstap snap. And one time Cody

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<v Speaker 1>and I were like in our balcony and we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>is he down there? We can't see him. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll like, imagine if we pop this champagne bottle and

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<v Speaker 1>pop the cork down there, you imagine if he runs out,

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<v Speaker 1>like surely he will come out right, And we're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's so we're up really high on the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth ninth floor, and we shook it and we popped

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<v Speaker 1>it and it went down and he ran like you

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<v Speaker 1>could see Ali, just like running out of whatever he

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<v Speaker 1>was in and he got the little cork bottle. No. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got so much trouble. Like the moment that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the producers came storming in and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Get out of that baggating. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>meant to do that. That's so dangerous. Someone could have

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<v Speaker 1>been hit in the eye. It's so crazy because when

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<v Speaker 1>you get into the experiment, what you're told is like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to speak to him. You're not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to any press, any media, do not engage,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to ignore him. Yeah, And it feels

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<v Speaker 1>so mean because at first you're like, oh, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>similar to me. We didn't want to break the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, oh, I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong. And then like slowly, I think he builds

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<v Speaker 1>trust with you, and you're like, oh, it's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's harmless. But that's what happens, Like the production gets

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<v Speaker 3>into your head and they villainize him.

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<v Speaker 1>They make him like he's the worst thing. He's actually

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<v Speaker 1>he's been there for us for a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He's actually such a good friend. Yeah, through all the seasons. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been doing it for how long we have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask him? We have so many questions, so many questions

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<v Speaker 1>for him. But I am so excited to pick his

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<v Speaker 1>brain about every everything. He's like always partying with them

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He's parted with us, but he's seen us

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<v Speaker 1>at our absolute best ad. Also, before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>the chat with Ali, we have created our own fact

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<v Speaker 1>reality broadcast channel. You can find it on my Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>account and it's just gonna be a little fun place.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna build a community. You can ask us questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna drop in some behind the scenes stuff in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you can have a little chat with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't know about you, but whenever I watch this,

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<v Speaker 3>like the show, I'm like, oh my god, does anyone

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<v Speaker 3>else se Yeah, yeah, it's a good place to just

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<v Speaker 3>chat exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome mister Ali Daha, Hello, Hello, very excited to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on. I felt like you were the best person

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<v Speaker 1>to have on just to get us straight into the goss,

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<v Speaker 1>get us we needed, we need everything, So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on. Hi, Toney, Hi, This is so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because we're used to you interviewing us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. I think that's why I'm a bit nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be nervous. Now you're in the hot seat. How's

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<v Speaker 1>it feel?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm scaredled. You don't want to give

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<v Speaker 2>you guys everything?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I love it. I love it exclusive.

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<v Speaker 3>How many seasons do you think you've covered with masks?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think this is my fourth year on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>covering it like out chasing. I think my first season

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<v Speaker 2>was Rice, season was Great season, season nine, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>four seasons of mass.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, can you tell us what season is your favorite?

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<v Speaker 1>So far?

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<v Speaker 2>Every year I feel like, oh this is my favorite cast?

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<v Speaker 2>Is my favorite cast? I'm like, this year is pretty fucked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie. Even during filming, this year's cast

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<v Speaker 2>just surprised me. How so they're just so vgue, Like

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<v Speaker 2>week two out of the pub with them all, they

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<v Speaker 2>invited me and it was just like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>do that, you're not allowed to do it. But the

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<v Speaker 2>funny thing is they got caught, so like, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know what happens when they get caught, is locked

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<v Speaker 2>down to lock down and goes to the person that

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<v Speaker 2>dubbed us all in was Adrian what because he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be like the producers sack up and was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get everybody else in trouble with.

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<v Speaker 1>It. No, why is this specifically when? Because I watched

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<v Speaker 1>the commitment ceremony and I was very confused with how

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<v Speaker 1>Sierra and Adrian were able to have this like connection, chat, cheating,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they're trying to set up, because obviously we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see that, but I'm assuming it happened off camera. It's

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<v Speaker 1>giving that it was done when the rules are broken.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they do mention the UFC like really okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>that was the first night they started spending time together.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like funny enough, Sierra included, we were all back

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<v Speaker 2>at Adrian's house that night, so like Sierra went back

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<v Speaker 2>to Agrian's house just like that night. Wow, like my department,

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<v Speaker 2>actual househouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's hold up for one moment. Let's rewind. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so much a talk about this season, but before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, we have so many questions about mass

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole, because you have so much tea to

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<v Speaker 1>give us. But I want to know overall? Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>who's your least favorite past member of all time with masks?

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<v Speaker 2>And why some people I've got blocked and I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>happy never to see them again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'd love to see a.

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<v Speaker 2>List is so random I can imagine. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably on some of some people's block lists. Like Martha's

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<v Speaker 2>still got me blocked. Even though she apologized to me

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<v Speaker 2>fashion Week and we clean the beef, he still blocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>But any of the guys that you dislike, who's been

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<v Speaker 1>the most like difficult?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's a lot of difficult people. Ryan Gallagher, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got him blocked close I was. I was cool with

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<v Speaker 2>him and then he just he wanted money for a story,

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<v Speaker 2>a story he didn't like, and he just started taking

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<v Speaker 2>it all out of me. I'm like, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>write this story. Why are you coming after me? And

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<v Speaker 2>I just went, yeah, no, thanks, that's interesting. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably someone I wouldn't mind not seeing again.

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<v Speaker 1>And who do you think, from your opinion you thought

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<v Speaker 1>got like a bad edit and was good or a

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<v Speaker 1>good edit and was bad. Who do you think has

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<v Speaker 1>been like the most out of all the seasons that

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<v Speaker 1>you've watched, you were like, that's not really an accurate

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<v Speaker 1>representation of how you know that person to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Question. It's like some people have a

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<v Speaker 2>bad edit and then their true colors come out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Harrison got to edit a bad edit. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think they showed everything, but if they showed both sides,

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be as bad. But then he's come out

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<v Speaker 2>and like you've had your beef with Aris, and I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he does deserve the edit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Harrison is very much like a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a troller. Yeah, he's like I think he's like same

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<v Speaker 1>category as NASA.

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<v Speaker 2>If not worse.

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<v Speaker 1>God do you reckon? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he likes to provoke, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>likes to I don't think he even means the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>he says sometimes, absolutely like he just provokes people and

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<v Speaker 1>just loves that. He's just sitting there like twiddling his

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<v Speaker 1>fingers because he loves it, which I think is quite sad.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it makes you happy, makes you sleep better

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<v Speaker 1>at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I think NASA just gets jealous because.

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<v Speaker 1>NASA has me block does.

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<v Speaker 2>He he blocks me?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I think we have each other block.

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<v Speaker 1>He said something about me and I was gonna front him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I saw I was blocked. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna talk shit, but you don't want to face.

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<v Speaker 2>Music, And how do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Like I've seen him in public and

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<v Speaker 1>he just like scurries away.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what's funny is like Nasa always have

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<v Speaker 2>has been, but it's mainly Bride. He gets jealous of

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<v Speaker 2>all the attentions the Bride. I'm like, Nasa, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>the girl, You're not that sorry, but it does happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually completely forgot about NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I put them in the same category.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this season, I think, yeah, who do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think is looking bad? That isn't deserving of it? So far?

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. It's only like two three weeks in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone's looking bad. I think we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>like an accurate, an accurate portrayal of what happened, Like

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie and Ryan, like I said that previously, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like wild. Nobody knew what was going to happen with

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie and Ryan, like every day was different. They were

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<v Speaker 2>just isolated, just doing their own thing. They won't hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with the rest of the car, So what does

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<v Speaker 2>that say about Yeah them, like it was pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I get them too, as in like they

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<v Speaker 1>were the real deal, like they were focusing just on

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they were fighting one day, they were fighting one day,

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<v Speaker 2>They're telling everyone how strong they are. Yes, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie was out like saying stuff about Ryan behind his back,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it just like there's just so much beef.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting and Ryan was caught sliding in other bride's dms

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<v Speaker 2>that hasn't come out yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Way as in other brides on this season, or yeah, just.

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<v Speaker 2>To be friends, and then Jackie found out, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there was I can't name them.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they have? Are their intruder or they a

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<v Speaker 1>O G bride? I didn't even know who did they

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<v Speaker 1>bride entertain it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he just wanted to be friends or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what happened, but Jackie found out. She was

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<v Speaker 2>not happy when she found out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair. I feel like Athena would be his type.

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<v Speaker 1>If I would to take a gat, I reckon his

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<v Speaker 1>type would be like a Sierra Vibe do you reckon, Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>someone that he's someone his type is someone he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get. That's survivor I get from him. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's say you can get it. He wouldnt obviously get

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<v Speaker 1>a finger either of that, like yeah, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he'd go for someone very like yeah, that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>get said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, right, but one of you guys are right,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh one of all. Seriously, I am off Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>because I just was. I think he his true colors

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<v Speaker 1>really showed when he made that like inappropriate comment about Jackie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just think he is only apologizing now because

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<v Speaker 1>he's been called out for it. I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>just like what he would be like. And also part

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<v Speaker 1>of me feels like the boys in any other scenario

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't speak up, and they're only speaking up because they

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<v Speaker 1>know how it looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, yeah this season, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean? Like, if this happened in our season,

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<v Speaker 1>things were said about women, none of them, none of

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<v Speaker 1>the boys spoke up, and it became an issue and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like and a lot of it was behind

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<v Speaker 1>closed doors and no cameras there. But I feel conveniently,

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<v Speaker 1>since the cameras were there, now they're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to look like a good guy, then the women

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<v Speaker 1>when I just think they wouldn't in any other circumstance

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<v Speaker 1>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did it take the boys three days to come

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<v Speaker 2>out and speak out? Like Ryan said that comment during

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<v Speaker 2>Alessandra's workshop, but everyone stayed quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon producers were like, oh, man, do you like

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that comment's okay? How would you feel

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like someone spoke about your wife like that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was obviously probed because even like the reaction, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were shocked, but no one said anything at the

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<v Speaker 1>time because I feel like if I was there to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, dude, what the fuck is that about?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know it's weird? Alexander didn't say anything either.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I feel like Ryan's giving party boy, because

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen a video of you partying with them. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>had this wild party and I correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that here my full fist pumping in the background

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<v Speaker 3>of this video.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a few partying videos of Ryan. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>video of him at a festival the other day and

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<v Speaker 2>on the bus. I think, were you there to throw

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<v Speaker 2>but not to throw? Ryan? And I think all of

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<v Speaker 2>the boys this year are party boys. Really, all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you who my favorite groom?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Billy, We love Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Billy and Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love Billy, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff is like an underdog two though.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I like je Jeff gives reminds me of Layton.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah last season. Yeah, just something about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that originally is very similar. Yeah, nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Es. I still don't buy their relationship though. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're probably one of the strongest couples. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, really.

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<v Speaker 1>I see that. I see them being a strong couple. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just very I don't know. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel about the cast this year. It's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to connect with the and feel like I think because

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<v Speaker 1>it's been so chaotic and then just seeing all the

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<v Speaker 1>rogue stuff, it's been really hard to like connect to

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<v Speaker 1>the storylines. And I think I get disappointed because it

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<v Speaker 1>ruins it for the viewers when things get leaked. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love a little bit of a spoiler, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think when it's just like too much, it can ruin things.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I agree, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the feedback that I got overall from people that

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<v Speaker 3>have said that they're watching it's really hard to connect

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<v Speaker 3>even with their backstories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they're just finding.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and you have to they have to cast

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<v Speaker 3>their net very wide, sure when they're casting for brides

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<v Speaker 3>and grooms, but I feel like some of the stories

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<v Speaker 3>are really out there and just like, yeah, it's so

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<v Speaker 3>hard to relate, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems to be like me looking at it, it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like it's all for show. There's not. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not authentic anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard, like it's you want to feel that when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it. And I know, obviously the purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>the show is to find love, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's more skewed towards the drama now, which I also

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<v Speaker 1>get because that's why we love watching it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's why we love watching reality TV in

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<v Speaker 1>general exactly. But it's it's hard to see what the

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the same thing we see every year,

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<v Speaker 1>like what the intentions are of the brides and grooms

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<v Speaker 1>and what they're going to the show for people chasing

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. And I think we were having this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation how there's a lot of them this year that

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<v Speaker 1>are actors and actresses, which I find quite interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Reality TV already gets a bad rap of

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<v Speaker 1>it being scripted, of it being acting, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>literally have like majority of the cast the actors shows

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<v Speaker 1>correct or have dated before. Yes, you know that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>like alarming. Diceee, what is your thoughts on this cast

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<v Speaker 1>and is there anyone that you think is in there

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<v Speaker 1>for I'm not gonna say the wrong reasons because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that is an annoying thing when people say

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<v Speaker 1>that but for clout and it's not for the overarching

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<v Speaker 1>love reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I think every single cast member this year is on

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<v Speaker 2>the show for clout.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yes, some people say they want love, but from

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<v Speaker 2>my experience with them doing what I do, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're all part of them is loving the cloud they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's a fair statement considering we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>all this like the cast trying to get on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the narrative and get on top of everything before

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<v Speaker 1>it's played out. And I think it kind of it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just like, let's just see it out and then you

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<v Speaker 1>will have a chance to defend yourself eventually, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>just see what happens, how it plays out. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I find interesting though, and how I can pick

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<v Speaker 1>it is like the ones that are really going all

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<v Speaker 1>out with their reels, their TikTok. So, we weren't doing

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<v Speaker 1>any of that on our season. It was allowed. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to to have your phone? I know.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just interesting they're all doing fit checks. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for collaborating with me already.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know what that annoys me is the collaboration,

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<v Speaker 1>like the hair and makeup, the dresses, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>were on your own, yeah, we had for our own

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<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we weren't gifted our fears. Well, we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>on our season.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just find it finding that when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at all the brides and grooms, even the guys are

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<v Speaker 1>doing fit checks.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave posted up a fit check the other night and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, dude, like I get it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's giving. You want to be an influencer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I think they've seen how you like. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>wants that TikTok cloud. Everyone knows you can get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of followers doing that. Like, yes, your seasons both sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You were so scared of it, like you were too

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<v Speaker 2>scared to eat film content, like your seasoned sort of

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<v Speaker 2>saying film it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Like say just quickly, like it's not even that we

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<v Speaker 3>weren't allowed to, Like we were so focused on ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>and the I guess the drama we were going going

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<v Speaker 3>through through. Yeah, between us and like my person with Cody,

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<v Speaker 3>there was no way you could get Cody and I

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<v Speaker 3>to do a fit check.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, there's no way. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine? I know?

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're doing that now, I feel like, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that going to say? It's the next year's cast,

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone's going to be doing that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a different formula now. But even like

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<v Speaker 1>if you notice the places they're getting dressed froms and

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<v Speaker 1>the type of people they're working with, it's people that

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<v Speaker 1>we work with. So they've obviously researched previous seasons and

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone and reached out, which is like respect, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just how it is, like they've gone and seen

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<v Speaker 1>what we've done, and you're obviously it's like you walked

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<v Speaker 1>so I could run, so they could sprint, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And like people going rogue in the past, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. You can't stop it now. I think

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<v Speaker 2>like Channel nine has created this months so that they

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<v Speaker 2>can't control.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think Channel nine could do to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>the chaos that it is now or the just to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of preserve the storyline and the actual show. What

0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.240
<v Speaker 1>do you think they could do to fix that? Because

0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it just seems like it's out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's too late for this season, but for next year.

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<v Speaker 2>What Wanner Brothers do for The Bachelor is actually they've

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<v Speaker 2>got this clause which they it's like a five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars bonus that they offer the cart on the like,

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<v Speaker 2>but they can't go rogue. So that means no paparazzi photos,

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<v Speaker 2>no doing any interviews, even like talking to any media.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as insiders, none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a genius.

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<v Speaker 2>You follow every single one of these rules. It literally

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<v Speaker 2>says no paparazzi, no, none of that, and you get

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars at the end. And I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>that some of the cast would follow.

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<v Speaker 1>The rules five k and don't they withhold your blue

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<v Speaker 1>tick as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you get no blue tick, but now you

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<v Speaker 2>can just pay for it. But it's not the same

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<v Speaker 2>as it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So back in the day for Bachelor Days, that blue

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 2>tick was everything for sure, So that might be the

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.160
<v Speaker 2>reason they even went on the show, so that blue

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.679
<v Speaker 2>tick meant everything, so they would follow the rules. But

0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.680
<v Speaker 2>then some people would be like, I can get more

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 2>clout by going rogue and making more money.

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.359
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if it's I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's possible either. I mean, you know that

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.320
<v Speaker 1>there's the whole thing of like staging pap shots and

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<v Speaker 1>like being paid for it. Have you because we've never

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<v Speaker 1>been paid for any photos that we've done, and we

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.920
<v Speaker 1>were having a chat about it before. With anything pap related,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only been like two times that I've been sprung

0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know that they were there every other time,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've known or there's been an event or like

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<v Speaker 1>my partner had told you that it was like set

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<v Speaker 1>up right. Yeah, what has been your experience with the

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<v Speaker 1>more side of things that people try and make money

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<v Speaker 1>off of. People come to be like pay me for

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<v Speaker 1>X y Z what's that been like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, to be honest, I've changed my approach this year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not paying you guys as sent for paparazzi photos.

0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you free publicity, good publicity. It's either you

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 2>take it or that you don't. We're not paying like

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you'd a bloody walk out of a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>So who has been paid the most for paparazzi shots?

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<v Speaker 2>I think back in the day that like reality stars

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 2>could bank a lot of money, like people getting paid

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of dollars, like your Martha days, Jessica Power,

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.679
<v Speaker 2>all that bunch. We're getting a lot of money. But

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 2>these days, like unless you're going to cause scandal and drama,

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 2>which like like he can't be bothered with, Yeah, it's

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.119
<v Speaker 2>not worth it, like because you're just going to tarnish

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 2>your name by doing that. Yeah, Like I think domb

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Ella season was probably the last where they like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they did make a lot of money by staging photos

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<v Speaker 2>like el I had a fun time at the beach

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<v Speaker 2>with brent On Valentine.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember those. Oh my god, how did I forget

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>about that? That was taking It wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 2>They that would like one of the pap agencies and stuff, and.

0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:04.879
<v Speaker 1>They don't even know there's pap agencies.

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Like these days people have ours like they've already tried

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<v Speaker 2>to cash in, like partners trying to cash in all

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like do people really care? Like do

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<v Speaker 1>people care what we're doing like that? I don't know.

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're just more like I guess the dollar amount

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<v Speaker 1>for the person different. How much are we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Here for Well, they used to get a lot now

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 2>it's probably not worth as much, to be honest, like.

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>How much Ela and Dom I mean, Ella and Brent

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<v Speaker 1>would have got that.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of grand I think. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>you're like licensing, Yeah, okay, cool, but like you could

0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 2>make money, it'd be a couple of hundred, like a

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<v Speaker 2>few brand all up. But is it really worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems like a bit cringe. Like I remember

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 1>any time would happened when you take photos, I'd be like,

0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I hate this so much.

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 2>And you can but a stage pap set from a

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 2>mal awage like yeah, don't.

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 3>Just know, ye convenient The hair and makeup's a like

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 3>perfect and you're just strolling out with their dog conveniently,

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Like it's so set up.

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>The other ones that you know, like a bit.

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I just think even the stage pap photos aren't what

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.439
<v Speaker 2>they used to be anymore. So I'm like, I don't know, I.

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Know, like the ones of Jackie last week at the beach.

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's okay, she did definitely photos. Yeah, I

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 2>got their heads up. Okay, what was I doing that day?

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I actually needed to be somewhere and I'm like, I'm

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna go. I gotta go. And then it was where

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 2>we go one of the beaches, Yeah, and went took

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the photos and left like thank you.

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Funny.

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 3>So people just say, hey, lady, to be here. I'm

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 3>going to be here, and you just rock up.

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, pretty much the whole season was like that. This year,

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.919
<v Speaker 2>it was like I just was so tired. I was

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 2>just like, let me know when you're all going to

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>go out and how come like, because I'm there waiting

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>every day all week. I'm like, but we all know

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the weekends at the time where everyone gets time off

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 2>and they all go rogue. So I'm just like waiting

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>for that moment. I'm just like, let me know where

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna go, and I'll be there. And there was

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 2>times where I would go out with the maps cast,

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>like this season, and we'd run into producers. They'd be like,

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? What are you doing? I'm reporting

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 2>you to the higher ups. And then one time then

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>they didn't care. They'd be like, oh, I like Ali,

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm friends with him, like and it just they just

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 2>this year's season just did not care, which is shows

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 2>how rugue they are. That's why I'm like, if there's

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>that rogue during filming, it just says something about the

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>cast and the intentions.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that they go into it weird. Definitely, who

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>is the main ringleader of these parties?

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.160
<v Speaker 2>He won't care that I'm throwing him under the bus.

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 2>But it was Billy at the start. Billy Billy and

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 2>very close with the Veena, so she was just be

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>like f yr. She didn't care about being pa. She'd

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>be like, come hang out with us, yes, which was

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>really cute, like like Ali, actually, don't bring a camerag

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 2>just coming out, And I think that was what was different.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Also with this cast. It wasn't so much come TAKEO,

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 2>just come have bees with us.

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but then Billy leaves, So Billy actually leaves

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>like spoiler alert, stop, Well.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>We can assume like this cheating whatever, maybe that causes

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the riff.

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and does so.

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Then when he Billy's on the market, babe waiting for you.

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 2>But when that happens, the whole dynamic change. So then

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, who is going to call me now? Okay?

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 2>And then like a week or so it took because

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the whole group dynamic of the show this year is

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>going to change. Okay, back, the friendships are going to

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 2>change when Billy leaves and you're going to see new friendships.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So do you think now with Intruder's week being this week,

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>that is then causing chaos because we've seen Elliott is

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>coming back, which horrific, and Lauren is coming.

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Back, who were originally matched together. Yes, and now it

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.640
<v Speaker 3>appears that coming back and getting rematched with which I.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Think is bullshit. That's so not fair, not fair, Like

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>none of us got to if anyone, like we will

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>like bring back Katie. Yeah, like, okay, I understand it

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>would have been unfair to bring back Elliott and then

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>not Lauren or Vice versa. Get that, but also I

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>also get the fact that they were great characters, like

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it was good TV. I hate to fight. Yeah, I

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's fair.

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>It's not fair. But imagine they brought Katie back and

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.479
<v Speaker 2>then they stitch her up again, Like, how can they

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>guarantee to Katie that they've found somebody that isn't going

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to bloody make it feel like crap? Yeah, they can't.

0:26:58.760 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 2>They can't guarantee that.

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, I heard that the new bride that Elliott is

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 3>going to be matched with is lovely, but apparently the

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 3>moment that they stopped filming and the crew leave, he

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 3>like completely ignores this poor girl. And then when they

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 3>come back in, he's all nice again, and she's obviously

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 3>foul because she's like, you've just ignored me for four hours.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>It's fake.

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you heard that, but sure, okay,

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 2>they were just like.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Well I read an article that I don't know if

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you wrote it, but saying she's like this awful bride

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and like trauma.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is it?

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you write that?

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Actually?

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 2>No, because she's.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>An actress as well.

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Remember, Elliott had his long list of non negotiable craps yea,

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>so producers decided to stitch him up and give him

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.719
<v Speaker 2>that list. And is she going to be the perfect person?

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Probably not because he's the issue.

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, Elliott's going to come back and

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>get a redemption. Maybe this time she's going to be

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the problem. I'm saying she is. I don't know, but

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that's just my understanding of it. Okay, we haven't heard

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 2>her side yet. Yeah, we're keen to see, like what

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that's my thing this year. Also, I'm gonna always listen

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 2>to both. I'm never just going to listen to the

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>first person that comes to me to complain about that.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely I had I've done that in the past and

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>then it's never been wrong.

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then we've also seen Lauren is matched up

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>with Clint. But I read a spoiler this morning that

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Clint is now with Jackie Jackie yea, what is going on?

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>That's pissed me off. First of all, because we haven't

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>even seen the wedding and now we know it's ruined.

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Can you do you have any inside goss on that?

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Can? I say it pissed me off to be honest,

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>because obviously there I'm on set, so I'm getting all

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 2>these photos of Clint with Lauren going out doing all

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>these thin, cool things together. Now all my photos blake up.

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like they don't make sense. So and now I

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>know how frustrated the producers would because they've got all

0:28:56.040 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 2>this great story yeah and bluddy Clint and Lauren, and

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 2>they're going to keep people on the edge of their seat.

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 2>They're going to be great together. And now this relationships

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>come out with people putting it out there like I'm

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>part of the problem.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>This play out on screen, we see this relationship, Yes

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>we will.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>So they actually started talking just before final vows, texting okay,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and then they don't actually walk into the reunion together,

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>but their relationship is exposed at the reunion. Wow, from

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>what I've told, Like obviously I was not inside, but

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>this is just.

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>The swapping of the partners is crazy.

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Like this is my thing. Everybody wants that Duncan and

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Evelyn finished, and they think they're going to get that.

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 3>But Cam and Jewels, hey, yeah, probably.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Better, but like no, but like I mean, the partner swap,

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>so everyone thinks everyone and Duncan done so well. Right,

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>let's look at the facts. Maths have never made a

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>partner swap ever, look good.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, it's a very interesting dynamic that I feel like,

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if that's a healthier way to

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>look at it, like, oh, if my actual couple doesn't

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>work out, there might be someone else there and I

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>almost be able to be the next Duncan anevolent yeah,

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>which is yeah, I'm not sure about that.

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Or they might be the next John and Ellie and

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 2>get slammed by everybody, the next Carolina and Daniel, like

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>that didn't end well for them? Yeah who else? Yeah,

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>never never ends well?

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>No ever. I think it's disappointing because it happened so

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>early on and we didn't even get to see their wedding.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's also taking the moment away from Lauren, which

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I like. Now it's like she's been messed around two

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>times now and then she gets this potential redemption for

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it to be taken away from her by Jackie, Like

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>like do you need to be posting that on socials, babe,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Like it's really not. It's collaborating with the Maths Gossips page,

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's Maths unsensored mass gossip. But like what yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 2>So on that it was like Jackie who sort of

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 2>tease that she has a new relationship, so if she's

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>not going out rogue none of this. I think we

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>could have held the story for sure another two three weeks.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>It was always going to come out, but her going

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>so rogue sort of accelerate. He accelerated it, and it's

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>like it does suck because Clint's also coming on. He

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>was like in the backseat. He's not driving the car.

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't even had yet.

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's like you just can't control it anymore.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he's.

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Gonna apply for something like mass Regardless of what happens

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 3>in the end, you have a responsibility to like just

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 3>keep the magic of the show, Like why spoil it

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 3>for everyone?

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? It's not like it

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>airs for a whole year, and the turnaround is not

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that unreasonable. You actually finished filming in November December. It

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>airs in January, exact. It's not that long to just

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>like keep it together. You know.

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a different breed though, Like this, it's like I

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>don't like my edit, and they're there on Instagram like.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>We barely see the edit, babes, like let's watch it first.

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>But literally they're live streaming complaining about how unhappy they are.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, give us a chance to but do you

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>know what I think? Is actually worse. I think people

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 2>coming out and being so salty and bitter about the

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 2>edit is actually making people not like them more. It's

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>actually not doing the many favors.

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that they are so wild this year? Like,

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>why do you think they're going.

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 2>So rogue being the cloud chasers that they are. I

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>just feel like I think everyone's had enough with the trolling. Yeah,

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>but then if they don't have all these random accounts,

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't be seeing the comments.

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly And I also, if I want to take

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>a step back and looking at this realistically, if they

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>were smart, let's put the cloud chasing hat on. If

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they are smart about this, they would wait for this

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to play out. They've got four months of their three

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>four months of airtime depending on how long you're on

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the show for. Then hit them after wait for your

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>moments so you have all this airtime you're building the

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>following whatever, and then you can come out in the

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>right appropriate setting with your story to tell or sell

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the story. I don't know, like they're just not being

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>smart about it. Even if the clout was a number

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>one priority, they've they've shot themselves in the foot because

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>now no one cares, babe, like I don't actually care anymore.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you've said it on a million different podcasts. You've

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>set it on your stories, like who do you think

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>is gonna listen anymore? And you're just like banging on

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>about it, banging on about it. It's not and that's

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>banging on the most Morena, what's your thoughts on her?

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I heard about Morena's dilemma back in October. Okay, so

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>what do you hear all of it?

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I do think there's a lot we haven't seen with Morena, okay.

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Which I think is fair. Like were editing, I can see.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 2>That whether Tony came out and said he was a

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>married man or yes he's married, he hasn't finalized his paperwork.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's common. We had. We had people on our

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>season that that's not like, I don't think that that's

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the end of the world.

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 3>No, but apparently he's still in love with her and

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 3>that was her problem. He kept making comments like bring

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.959
<v Speaker 3>my ex wife or sorry wife back.

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that story. A few cast members have come

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>out and said that happened, but I've also been told

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>from very good sources that that didn't happen. Okay, and

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>if that did happen, it would have made great TV

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and they would have used it like they Yeah, so

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I've said, like we just don't know, like what's.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>His what's his wife's name by the way, because you

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>know how he called her by a different name. Is

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Marianna or something?

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Morena made it very clear, like at the start I

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>was saying it wrong, I'm probably not saying it more yeah,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>exactly how she likes it right now. But she made

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 2>it very clear. So anyone, anytime somebody said a name,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 2>she was correct.

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>It's fair enough. It's that's fair get Yeah. But when

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>people call me Selean, I'm like, no, that's a whole

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>different name. That's not even a short cut of mine.

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No.

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>But like I understand why she's frustrated. She feels set up,

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 2>she feels like she wasted a time. I mean I

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>was there trying to telling her to stay on, so

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't helping the situation. Yeah, And she's come out

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and said that I was probably one of her only

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.879
<v Speaker 2>friends or support systems she had during the show, which

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>is kind of sad to hear.

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, when you're coming to a new city that

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you are not from you don't have any friends, like

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe, like he's from like Wollongong with something, so

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>he can just easily go home on the weekends. I

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>felt lucky because I could go home, I could see

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>my friends, but like my partner was from the other

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 1>side of the country, so it was different when you

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't have people to lean on. Yeah, and I think

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>it makes the experience a lot harder. So I think

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>that's like fair. Yeah, and I can understand why she'd

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>be upset when he's going and doing that stuff and

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 1>she's stuck in a hotel room essentially with no one,

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're not meant to hang out with the rest

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of the cast anyway, so you're literally alone. Yeah.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's what happened with Marna. Like week two,

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 2>she was like on the weekend, she was saying that

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 2>she's never been a bondeau before. She said, she's never

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 2>been in this before. So I said, do you want

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>to go to Bondaire?

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 2>And then I drove her. She was the first person

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to get into my card.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>And then Alie's car is a whole thing number plate

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is we because he loves Harry Potter as we do too,

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>as we do too.

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>But then, yeah, she was the first person to get

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 2>in my car. Took her out because Tony would go

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>home on the weekend Subollongong and he would never invite her.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 2>And then like he just said he wanted a break

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>from her, which I understand. Yeah, but like she was

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>very hurt by it because he ended up taking the

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 2>rest of the cast there. Yeah, never his bride. So

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 2>oh that's yeah, Like so she felt isolated, isolated and alone,

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 2>which was kind of sad. So I did have a

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>tough spot for her. Yeah, of course, yes, she gave

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 2>me a headache, but I did feel sorry for her.

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, that's fair.

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I get why she was upset.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and knowing what you know, do you believe in

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the villain edit?

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so, But I think everyone deserves the

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 2>edit they get like really, Yeah, I think I do,

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 2>because if you don't like, if you treat producers really nicely,

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you treat all the like crow really nicely, you treat everybody,

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 2>They're not gonna make you look like a bad person.

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I think my view on this whole bad edit villain

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>edit is that I believe that it's what's not shown. Yeah,

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>what is shown because I think that's where if one

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>side of something shown, someone can look extremely worse than

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>what we had experienced it to be. And that's what

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it can be because other person might have been just

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>as bad but it wasn't shown.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 2>And then you're like, oh, that's what literally Miranda's argument,

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not she doesn't care how she was betrayed. She

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 2>wants the other side of the truth shown. Yeah, And

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 2>when I spoke to Jake and he went rogue, it

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, why didn't they show that? I wasn't interested

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 2>in Ashley from the start, Like it wasn't. He just

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 2>was more upset that. They'm like, well, you actually got

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 2>a really good at it, like why are you complaining?

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>And same as Marina, I'm like, wellhy are you complaining?

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Ed?

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 2>It's actually really nice and then she's like, well they

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 2>haven't joined this, this this.

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you have this like sense of no control,

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what you have to really give away.

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what you have to really give away

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>going into this experience, because you have it's not in

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>your hands exactly. I think that's what they're trying to

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>take back. They're trying to like play out the narrative

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>by going on these rogue whatever and it just doesn't

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>really come out maybe in the way that they're hoping.

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you think do you.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Think people going rogue influences the public because.

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually, well I from my season when I the

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>big thing we saw was Dan going rogue, and it

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>ruined the whole storyline for Sandy and it really took

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>away Sandy's experience, which I felt like was a story

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that needed to be told. He was like edited out

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of the rest of the season was he not so

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>edit him out completely? And he literally ruined that on

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 1>the wedding literally it's just similar to what Jackie and

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Clint are doing on the wed before. It was literally

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the day of the wedding airing, he had the pap

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>shots with that other chick and you took those shots

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and it ruined it and then it made him look bad,

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>whereas I think his edit wasn't It wasn't bad until

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it was really bad. He looked great and then he

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>looked terrible. But I think that was also part of

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>him doing all that messy stuff. In the media. They

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>can go back and re edit that, and they did

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.919
<v Speaker 1>because they got he got edited out and I feel

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like they don't think that that can happen. Maybe I

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a debate whether it happens or not,

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>like we'll never know the answer, I think, yeah.

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but just look at where is he now? Where

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 1>is Dan? Do you really work for your babe? That's

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Can't other people see that and be like,

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't do that because I'll end up like this.

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I encourage people not to go rogue because I'm like,

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.399
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to do yourself any favors. Yeah, like, yes,

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I love the chaos.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's.

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I actually feel like I want the best for them.

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I want them to make the most of this once

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>in a lifetime experience. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it cuts it

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>very short.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know who I never see you write stories about.

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm scared, Yes, the experts about them all the time.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I really like the experts.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they're always positive, Like what's their actual Yeah?

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Probably too scared after.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Them the Golden I.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Love trolling Bloody John when he falls asleep on the couch.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 3>So for the listeners, the commitment ceremonies are really long. Okay,

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 3>we get like an hour each per couple and when

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 3>there's like.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 1>A twelve past twelve hours.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Guys literally and then there's like little takes in between

0:40:58.040 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 3>what we have to go film, like you know, our

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 3>opinions on things. So it's it's a long night last

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 3>you are so hungover from the dinner party the night before,

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 3>Hell and John, Alessandra and Melissa have to sit there

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 3>and watch the whole dinner party, so they're just as

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 3>tired as us, and John takes naps in between.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought I thought it was, Oh that's funny.

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I wish we called, but we'll get yelled at.

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>We do get nudged. But I would when we'd be

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 1>in the tents, which for the people that don't know,

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 1>when you go into the filming location, you are put

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in these like zebra tens, separated in your couple or

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>individual if you have beef with your couple at the time.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I would literally sleep on the floor and have an

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>app yeah, in the little on the dirt like on

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the dirty growth floor, because I'm so tired.

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's funny like

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 2>this year from your season, dinner parties and ccs and

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.800
<v Speaker 2>way early now, so like going into those dinner parties.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>They were done by like ten thirty.

0:41:56.239 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because you know what, I know, they've cut

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>out the libs, so like, did you guys guys speak

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, so before on like My season and Tiny season,

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we used to have this segment where.

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 3>We're like, I don't know, stay you're doing. You're doing

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 3>your dramatic like stay, and then they have a shot

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>where you're like looking at the bowercony go I wonder

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 3>if I should stay with my partner or you know,

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:27.839
<v Speaker 3>this is such a big decision for me. And then

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 3>they'll have other times when when you're you're allowed to

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 3>pick another bride and say like I'm a lot to do.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, completely, they've cut that out.

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that was what was taking really low long and

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>dragged out.

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>The commitment ceremonies and the dinner parties because that's what

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 1>we used to have to do.

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a completely mind blowed. I did forget that they

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 2>cut that out completely.

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah makes sense.

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the dinner party is finished early, like I

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>guess they Yeah.

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Because we used to film until like the sun comes

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>up again.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 2>It was like ten thirty. Sometimes I'd actually like miss it,

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>but I had I have the cast calling me saying, Okay,

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Billy actually had his Apple Watch at one of the

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>dinner parties and was giving me updates.

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you kiddy?

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:20.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he ain't care that I'm adding him. He'd love it. Yeah,

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>very naughty. So now I think they've banned apple products

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>from the dinner party.

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they also look, take your Apple watch off, horrific.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Take it off, not in the pickies, take it off. Yeah. Yeah,

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit sad watching Sierra and Billy at the

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>moment because I really like Billy. I just I didn't

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>know this party side of him.

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think it's a fun boy. It's also

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 2>a really good egg. Like, yeah, he's very cheeky, but

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 2>he's actually a really nice guy. Like it says something

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>about him if he's very close to his mom. Yeah,

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 2>he's got that relationship. So yeah, it was like they.

0:43:58.080 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Were so good and then all of a sudden it

0:43:59.920 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 1>was really bad.

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw them hanging out maybe two or three times.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that she just never liked him.

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think they were like compatible or they

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 2>were attracted to each other. I think Sierra was attracted

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 2>to him, but like, there was a lot we didn't

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 2>see so at their honeymoon, they were like fighting and

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 2>what She's come out and said he was a gas

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>lighter and he was always he was hugging the cameras

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff. And then like there was a

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 2>huge blow up at their honeymoon that we didn't see.

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 2>So it's just like.

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>That makes more sense because I feel like now at

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>this point of the experiment, she's got the ick. I

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>can see she's so.

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Offer Yeah, and that's why I think she was so

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 2>happy to open up to Adrian because just Billy wasn't

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 2>giving her the time of the day, wasn't rooting her

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 2>none of it.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So does that does that become a story ark? Because

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the way we saw the play out with Sierra and

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Adrian was like the little like foot sea and then

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously the commitment ceremony, does anything else further happen?

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna there's a whole lot of the cheating

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 2>side that's going to pay out over the next week

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>from what I've been told, and then TikTok, they've got

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time left.

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Interesting wouldn't be Maths without a cheating scandal.

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 2>No, right from my experience, they never like cooked up

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 2>or any of that like we'll never know the truth

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 2>because they were just hanging out behind closed doors. They

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 2>could be lying to their partners. We won't know. We'll

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>never know. So there's not actually like a cheating scandal

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>that plays out on TV between Adrian and Sierra, like

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 2>they didn't kiss like Carolina and Daniel Town. Okay, there

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>won't be that on the season that I know of,

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>But Jack and Clint got to know each other off

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 2>camera right then they come back.

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And is there any inside goss on stuff that you

0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 1>know of that we aren't going to see on the

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>season that's going to be like cutting room floor.

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 2>There's there's a lot of that, to be honest. There

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 2>was an incident in a taxi which I reported on

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 2>yesterday and it was too rude we had to put

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>it behind a paywall. But it did involve one bride

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 2>showing another groom a naughty video of herself.

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>And just the bride and groom with different bride and

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>different groom.

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Also it was one bride showing another guy a video

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 2>of herself a video of herself like fat that, what's that?

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna make the sound of it because I

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to.

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Gross it wasn't it was. I don't know if I

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 2>can get into too much detail for legal reasons, but

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 2>sold just say it and you can just be out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>she was getting so you can keep all of that out.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>But that's what it was. And she's showing another groom

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 2>this that's not her Why why by another groom? And

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 2>it went back to the dinner party and none of

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 2>this can be shown.

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 1>So there's two so and why is she in a

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:15.919
<v Speaker 1>cab with not her husband and.

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 2>With two husbands all hanging out? Okay? So it was

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.320
<v Speaker 2>like a broad I actually didn't. I did an interview

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 2>with her groom. Well the other guy involved, okay, and

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 2>he's come out and accidentally revealed they hung out multiple times,

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 2>so you can put the rest of the pieces of

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the puzzle together.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, do be fair, that's fair. That's getting edited out.

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>There's no way you could show that for legal reasons.

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>And also that's.

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why would you why why.

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Would you show that? But also here's my thing, and

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit of a side side chat. But you're

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>going and putting yourself in the public figure space. You

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>cannot have stuff like this exist. Ye, I can handle

0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>hearts say, I have nothing like that. I didn't have

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>new Like, you cannot have things like this because it's

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna get leaked.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.760
<v Speaker 2>So I spoke to the bride involved and I said,

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 2>what's the go with it? Like is there a video?

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Can I have the video? And then she just played

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 2>it down. She's like, oh, it was nothing like she

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't think anything of it. So that's why in her

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 2>head it wasn't a bad thing. It was just like, oh,

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you can barely see do you know what I mean?

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Like she very much played it down.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that is the issue.

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's just in her head it's not that bad.

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 1>So you have this video?

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:38.839
<v Speaker 2>She well, I said, do you have it, I'll give

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you money for it, because I didn't know what the

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 2>video was like Originally it was a sex tape and

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, no, there's no sex tape. Then it was

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like a porner. I'm like, no, there's no porno. It

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 2>was I'm like, okay, what is what's the video? Because

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 2>she confirmed that she did do it right okay, and

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 2>then everyone thought it was going to play it on

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 2>TV and we just found out like the other day

0:48:59.360 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 1>That's I think that's fair. Yeah, so you've seen this video.

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 2>I haven't, but I've heard exactly what. I've spoken to

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 2>the bride about it, and I've spoken to all the

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 2>people involved. Clinia has been who felt the tray by

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>that she was showing other guys the video.

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>That's fair. That's just messy.

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's just one story that they haven't Obviously, there's

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the whole Marena Tony stuff just completely scrapped out. Yeah,

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>but I'm just trying to think there's a lot of

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 2>stuff with the Fena and Adrian we didn't see interesting,

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 2>like Jack, and there's just heaps with Jack and Ryan

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:33.280
<v Speaker 2>that we're not seeing.

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay from both sides.

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Both sides.

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they're quiet. They're a chaotic pair to watch.

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 1>It's really like exhausting and I'm just like you just

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 1>don't you get whiplash?

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I know, but like he can't. I can't keep up

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 2>with it. That's why I'm just like, it's heap.

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I'mkaying to hear both sides though and see what's up. Yeah,

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:54.760
<v Speaker 1>because Ryan hasn't said anything.

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Ryan's been very careful at the moment.

0:49:58.840 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>He's obviously not happy.

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, he doesn't look great.

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:05.919
<v Speaker 2>But it's just like Jackie doesn't look great. They both

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 2>don't look great, but I think that's what their relationship was. Yeah,

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:10.919
<v Speaker 2>Athena and Adrian are going to go through a rough

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:13.440
<v Speaker 2>patch at the moment, so it's only going to get

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>worse for him.

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I think she deserves better. I'm sorry.

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so if Billy leaves, is it safe to say

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 3>that Athena leaves or not?

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I think Adrian and Aena are going to surprise everybody.

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's an interesting and this.

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Is something we haven't seen before ever in the history

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 2>of maps.

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Is she going to go for his brother? Can you imagine?

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, they should bring the brother in and just

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>like switch them around, not say anything.

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 2>We joked about that. I was like, because AA's got

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 2>her twins. Yeah, yeah, like let's just swapping around and

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 2>then like clear you'd be able to recognize straight away.

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:54.760
<v Speaker 1>But awfully similar.

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, only the tattoo tells him apart, Like when the

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Adrian got spotted with an other girl, he was pretending

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:02.360
<v Speaker 2>it was his brother.

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so it was was spotted with another girl. Yeah,

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 1>and do we know who this girl is?

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Yes? And that wasn't the first with that girl because

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>they spend years together, and.

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>But he was pretending that, Oh no, that's my brother,

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>so was he?

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I know, But like, isn't it weird because if

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 2>go back to your seasons, if someone was spotted with

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>another partner, they'd be like canceled and shut down for sure,

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 2>but agents still doing interviews. Yeah, so it just I

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 2>think the whole Maps game is changing.

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.359
<v Speaker 1>It is really changing. I don't really know how long,

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:39.919
<v Speaker 1>like how sustainable it can be when it's all these

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>things are being broken. I think they do need to

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:46.800
<v Speaker 1>implement something like you suggested, like keeping it contained. Because

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>we love we love the show. We love it. It'd

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>be nice if there was just a little bit more tight,

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:54.399
<v Speaker 1>just so we could see things play it and then

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>give us the goss.

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Me too, I'd be happy if we love the gloss,

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 2>but just not st I would actually be happy if

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like none of them cast spoke to anybody like I would.

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I what I loved about both your seasons is I

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.760
<v Speaker 2>love being able to crack you guys, like I worked

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 2>really hard to do it. Now this is like the

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 2>new generation of Maps is like talking to me day one,

0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 2>telling me everything, Like I like that, I like the

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 2>like the chase. I like the chase.

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, it's just like fun.

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like last year had Lauren talking to me like

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 2>from the start, and then this year it's like all

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 2>of them. I'm like okay, yeah, so when they all

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>went rogue early on, it's like, Okay, this is going

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.399
<v Speaker 2>to be a fun season. I've never seen anything like it.

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, I bumped into you recently at an event and

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 3>you said, there's one person that is playing by the

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 3>rules and you haven't cracked her yet. Yeah, Jamie, I

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 3>can tell.

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I can tell, like she was the one person that

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel comfortable doing pap photos. She was just like,

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even show up to a place if the rest

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.840
<v Speaker 2>of the cast were there. If she found out I

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:01.280
<v Speaker 2>was there.

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Apart from that one video of you guys doing tequila.

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Shops, you know, she was fine. She was like, that

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 2>was the first time we had hung out and you'd

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>realize I'm on the other side. So I was just like,

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I knew she wasn't comfortable with me being there, but

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to push.

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It the boundary.

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just like, you know what if I

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 2>just stay away. We've spoken now, so we're good now.

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good. Yeah, Jamie would be great to have on.

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I know, I think like it's very fair that Jamie

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 2>wants to play the rules, Like, like I really respect

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 2>that because she's done the right thing by production, she's

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 2>doing the right thing by Channel nine, and.

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I think by the viewers.

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like everyone wants a friend like Jamie.

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, we love Jamie and we love you Alie

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>so much for always supporting us, like you've been there

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:54.720
<v Speaker 1>from day one.

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Try it. Yeah no, but that's what I mean is

0:53:57.719 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I felt form like really good friendships with a lot

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 2>of beep people do come and go, but like the

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 2>real one stick around and that's what I love, Like

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I do or can make really good friends from it.

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we love it.

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 2>We love you, guys, love you.

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on. We're so grateful, honestly,

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 1>like so much tea.

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just hopefully give it up.

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hopefully it's given everyone a little bit more insight,

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:25.759
<v Speaker 1>different perspective.

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the thing I want to finish it with is

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 2>viewers have seen nothing yet, Like Maths is going to

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.879
<v Speaker 2>get so much more wild. Wow, it's going to get

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 2>a bit dark. It's gonna like We're going to see

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:37.720
<v Speaker 2>everything this year.

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Really, so strap in well. On that note, thank you

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>so much Arlie for coming on. We have a fresh

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.240
<v Speaker 1>new episode next week. If you want us to interview

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>someone in particular, please slide into our DMS or our

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 1>new broadcast channel, which you can find on Taranese Instagram page,

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.839
<v Speaker 1>and be sure to leave us a five stargi because

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<v Speaker 1>it helps. Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Reality

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