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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to back to reality. I'm Selena
Speaker 1: and I'm Tany and this week we have a very
Speaker 1: exciting guests. He knows maths more than anyone on this planet.
Speaker 1: So today on the show we have Ali Daha. He
Speaker 1: is a showbiz reporter, a pap and have everything, bit
Speaker 1: of a jolt threat and he is going to come
Speaker 1: and give us all the maps TI give us inside
Speaker 1: into everything. Really rethink yep, because he knows the ins
Speaker 1: and outs, who's still together, who's after the clout? He
Speaker 1: knows everything. He knows everything. And what is your first
Speaker 1: time meeting Ali? Like, I feel like everyone has a
Speaker 1: story that tell me, tell me about it. I remember
Speaker 1: because like we shot during COVID time and everyone was leaked,
Speaker 1: but we still had to wear our masks back then.
Speaker 1: So we'd be walking down the city on George Street
Speaker 1: and like Alie would run out of whatever little nook
Speaker 1: that he was going because he's good, and he would
Speaker 1: be like snap, snapstapstap snap. And I think when you're
Speaker 1: filming masks, you don't really get to see what the
Speaker 1: limelight's like. But when Arlie comes out of his little
Speaker 1: hole start snapping you, You're like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is feels like, you know, some kind of attention have
Speaker 1: media on you. I remember so one time we were like,
Speaker 1: because Arlie waits right, he waits all day and night.
Speaker 1: He's down there. He's down there. We shot like I
Speaker 1: think both of us shot sky Sweets in the city
Speaker 1: and he's downstairs waiting for one of us to walk
Speaker 1: out and be like snapstap snap. And one time Cody
Speaker 1: and I were like in our balcony and we were like,
Speaker 1: is he down there? We can't see him. And then
Speaker 1: we'll like, imagine if we pop this champagne bottle and
Speaker 1: pop the cork down there, you imagine if he runs out,
Speaker 1: like surely he will come out right, And we're like, nah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's so we're up really high on the
Speaker 1: eighth ninth floor, and we shook it and we popped
Speaker 1: it and it went down and he ran like you
Speaker 1: could see Ali, just like running out of whatever he
Speaker 1: was in and he got the little cork bottle. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got so much trouble. Like the moment that happened,
Speaker 1: one of the producers came storming in and she's like,
Speaker 1: what's going on. Get out of that baggating. You're not
Speaker 1: meant to do that. That's so dangerous. Someone could have
Speaker 1: been hit in the eye. It's so crazy because when
Speaker 1: you get into the experiment, what you're told is like
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to speak to him. You're not allowed
Speaker 1: to speak to any press, any media, do not engage,
Speaker 1: like you have to ignore him. Yeah, And it feels
Speaker 1: so mean because at first you're like, oh, and you're
Speaker 1: similar to me. We didn't want to break the rules,
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I don't want to do
Speaker 1: anything wrong. And then like slowly, I think he builds
Speaker 1: trust with you, and you're like, oh, it's not that bad.
Speaker 3: It's harmless. But that's what happens, Like the production gets
Speaker 3: into your head and they villainize him.
Speaker 1: They make him like he's the worst thing. He's actually
Speaker 1: he's been there for us for a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: He's actually such a good friend. Yeah, through all the seasons. Right,
Speaker 1: he's been doing it for how long we have to
Speaker 1: ask him? We have so many questions, so many questions
Speaker 1: for him. But I am so excited to pick his
Speaker 1: brain about every everything. He's like always partying with them
Speaker 1: as well. He's parted with us, but he's seen us
Speaker 1: at our absolute best ad. Also, before we get into
Speaker 1: the chat with Ali, we have created our own fact
Speaker 1: reality broadcast channel. You can find it on my Instagram
Speaker 1: account and it's just gonna be a little fun place.
Speaker 1: We're gonna build a community. You can ask us questions.
Speaker 1: We're gonna drop in some behind the scenes stuff in there,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you can have a little chat with us.
Speaker 3: Because I don't know about you, but whenever I watch this,
Speaker 3: like the show, I'm like, oh my god, does anyone
Speaker 3: else se Yeah, yeah, it's a good place to just
Speaker 3: chat exactly.
Speaker 1: Welcome mister Ali Daha, Hello, Hello, very excited to have
Speaker 1: you on. I felt like you were the best person
Speaker 1: to have on just to get us straight into the goss,
Speaker 1: get us we needed, we need everything, So thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on. Hi, Toney, Hi, This is so crazy
Speaker 1: because we're used to you interviewing us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I think that's why I'm a bit nervous.
Speaker 1: Don't be nervous. Now you're in the hot seat. How's
Speaker 1: it feel?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm scaredled. You don't want to give
Speaker 2: you guys everything?
Speaker 1: No, I love it. I love it exclusive.
Speaker 3: How many seasons do you think you've covered with masks?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I think this is my fourth year on the show,
Speaker 2: covering it like out chasing. I think my first season
Speaker 2: was Rice, season was Great season, season nine, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 2: four seasons of mass.
Speaker 1: Wow, can you tell us what season is your favorite?
Speaker 1: So far?
Speaker 2: Every year I feel like, oh this is my favorite cast?
Speaker 2: Is my favorite cast? I'm like, this year is pretty fucked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. Even during filming, this year's cast
Speaker 2: just surprised me. How so they're just so vgue, Like
Speaker 2: week two out of the pub with them all, they
Speaker 2: invited me and it was just like, you know, I
Speaker 2: do that, you're not allowed to do it. But the
Speaker 2: funny thing is they got caught, so like, yeah, so
Speaker 2: you know what happens when they get caught, is locked
Speaker 2: down to lock down and goes to the person that
Speaker 2: dubbed us all in was Adrian what because he wanted
Speaker 2: to be like the producers sack up and was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll get everybody else in trouble with.
Speaker 1: It. No, why is this specifically when? Because I watched
Speaker 1: the commitment ceremony and I was very confused with how
Speaker 1: Sierra and Adrian were able to have this like connection, chat, cheating,
Speaker 1: whatever they're trying to set up, because obviously we didn't
Speaker 1: see that, but I'm assuming it happened off camera. It's
Speaker 1: giving that it was done when the rules are broken.
Speaker 2: Well, they do mention the UFC like really okay, And
Speaker 2: that was the first night they started spending time together.
Speaker 2: Oh like funny enough, Sierra included, we were all back
Speaker 2: at Adrian's house that night, so like Sierra went back
Speaker 2: to Agrian's house just like that night. Wow, like my department,
Speaker 2: actual househouse.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's hold up for one moment. Let's rewind. There's
Speaker 1: so much a talk about this season, but before we
Speaker 1: get into that, we have so many questions about mass
Speaker 1: as a whole, because you have so much tea to
Speaker 1: give us. But I want to know overall? Yes, right,
Speaker 1: who's your least favorite past member of all time with masks?
Speaker 2: And why some people I've got blocked and I'll be
Speaker 2: happy never to see them again.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd love to see a.
Speaker 2: List is so random I can imagine. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: probably on some of some people's block lists. Like Martha's
Speaker 2: still got me blocked. Even though she apologized to me
Speaker 2: fashion Week and we clean the beef, he still blocked.
Speaker 2: I'm still blocked.
Speaker 1: But any of the guys that you dislike, who's been
Speaker 1: the most like difficult?
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot of difficult people. Ryan Gallagher, I've
Speaker 2: got him blocked close I was. I was cool with
Speaker 2: him and then he just he wanted money for a story,
Speaker 2: a story he didn't like, and he just started taking
Speaker 2: it all out of me. I'm like, I didn't even
Speaker 2: write this story. Why are you coming after me? And
Speaker 2: I just went, yeah, no, thanks, that's interesting. So that's
Speaker 2: probably someone I wouldn't mind not seeing again.
Speaker 1: And who do you think, from your opinion you thought
Speaker 1: got like a bad edit and was good or a
Speaker 1: good edit and was bad. Who do you think has
Speaker 1: been like the most out of all the seasons that
Speaker 1: you've watched, you were like, that's not really an accurate
Speaker 1: representation of how you know that person to be.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Question. It's like some people have a
Speaker 2: bad edit and then their true colors come out. It's
Speaker 2: I mean, Harrison got to edit a bad edit. I
Speaker 2: just think they showed everything, but if they showed both sides,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be as bad. But then he's come out
Speaker 2: and like you've had your beef with Aris, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe he does deserve the edit.
Speaker 1: I think Harrison is very much like a bit of
Speaker 1: a troller. Yeah, he's like I think he's like same
Speaker 1: category as NASA.
Speaker 2: If not worse.
Speaker 1: God do you reckon? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I think he likes to provoke, and I think he
Speaker 1: likes to I don't think he even means the stuff
Speaker 1: he says sometimes, absolutely like he just provokes people and
Speaker 1: just loves that. He's just sitting there like twiddling his
Speaker 1: fingers because he loves it, which I think is quite sad.
Speaker 1: But if it makes you happy, makes you sleep better
Speaker 1: at night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think NASA just gets jealous because.
Speaker 1: NASA has me block does.
Speaker 2: He he blocks me?
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think we have each other block.
Speaker 1: He said something about me and I was gonna front him,
Speaker 1: and then I saw I was blocked. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna talk shit, but you don't want to face.
Speaker 2: Music, And how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I don't care. Like I've seen him in public and
Speaker 1: he just like scurries away.
Speaker 2: So you know what's funny is like Nasa always have
Speaker 2: has been, but it's mainly Bride. He gets jealous of
Speaker 2: all the attentions the Bride. I'm like, Nasa, you're not
Speaker 2: the girl, You're not that sorry, but it does happen.
Speaker 2: I actually completely forgot about NASA.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I put them in the same category.
Speaker 2: Like this season, I think, yeah, who do you.
Speaker 1: Think is looking bad? That isn't deserving of it? So far?
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's only like two three weeks in.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's looking bad. I think we're seeing
Speaker 2: like an accurate, an accurate portrayal of what happened, Like
Speaker 2: Jackie and Ryan, like I said that previously, they were
Speaker 2: like wild. Nobody knew what was going to happen with
Speaker 2: Jackie and Ryan, like every day was different. They were
Speaker 2: just isolated, just doing their own thing. They won't hanging
Speaker 2: out with the rest of the car, So what does
Speaker 2: that say about Yeah them, like it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I get them too, as in like they
Speaker 1: were the real deal, like they were focusing just on
Speaker 1: their relationship.
Speaker 2: No, they were fighting one day, they were fighting one day,
Speaker 2: They're telling everyone how strong they are. Yes, and then
Speaker 2: Jackie was out like saying stuff about Ryan behind his back,
Speaker 2: and then it just like there's just so much beef.
Speaker 2: Interesting and Ryan was caught sliding in other bride's dms
Speaker 2: that hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 1: Way as in other brides on this season, or yeah, just.
Speaker 2: To be friends, and then Jackie found out, and then
Speaker 2: there was I can't name them.
Speaker 1: What are they have? Are their intruder or they a
Speaker 1: O G bride? I didn't even know who did they
Speaker 1: bride entertain it.
Speaker 2: I think he just wanted to be friends or I
Speaker 2: don't know what happened, but Jackie found out. She was
Speaker 2: not happy when she found out.
Speaker 1: That's fair. I feel like Athena would be his type.
Speaker 1: If I would to take a gat, I reckon his
Speaker 1: type would be like a Sierra Vibe do you reckon, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: someone that he's someone his type is someone he wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to get. That's survivor I get from him. Well,
Speaker 1: that's say you can get it. He wouldnt obviously get
Speaker 1: a finger either of that, like yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: he'd go for someone very like yeah, that's why I
Speaker 1: get said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, right, but one of you guys are right,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: But oh one of all. Seriously, I am off Ryan
Speaker 1: because I just was. I think he his true colors
Speaker 1: really showed when he made that like inappropriate comment about Jackie,
Speaker 1: and I just think he is only apologizing now because
Speaker 1: he's been called out for it. I think that is
Speaker 1: just like what he would be like. And also part
Speaker 1: of me feels like the boys in any other scenario
Speaker 1: wouldn't speak up, and they're only speaking up because they
Speaker 1: know how it looks good.
Speaker 2: I agree, yeah this season, do you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Like, if this happened in our season,
Speaker 1: things were said about women, none of them, none of
Speaker 1: the boys spoke up, and it became an issue and
Speaker 1: I felt like and a lot of it was behind
Speaker 1: closed doors and no cameras there. But I feel conveniently,
Speaker 1: since the cameras were there, now they're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: need to look like a good guy, then the women
Speaker 1: when I just think they wouldn't in any other circumstance
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Why did it take the boys three days to come
Speaker 2: out and speak out? Like Ryan said that comment during
Speaker 2: Alessandra's workshop, but everyone stayed quiet.
Speaker 1: I reckon producers were like, oh, man, do you like
Speaker 1: do you think that comment's okay? How would you feel
Speaker 1: if you're like someone spoke about your wife like that?
Speaker 1: It was obviously probed because even like the reaction, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were shocked, but no one said anything at the
Speaker 1: time because I feel like if I was there to
Speaker 1: be like, dude, what the fuck is that about?
Speaker 2: Do you know it's weird? Alexander didn't say anything either.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I feel like Ryan's giving party boy, because
Speaker 3: we've seen a video of you partying with them. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: had this wild party and I correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Was that here my full fist pumping in the background
Speaker 3: of this video.
Speaker 2: There's a few partying videos of Ryan. There was a
Speaker 2: video of him at a festival the other day and
Speaker 2: on the bus. I think, were you there to throw
Speaker 2: but not to throw? Ryan? And I think all of
Speaker 2: the boys this year are party boys. Really, all of them.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you who my favorite groom?
Speaker 2: Yes, Billy, We love Billy.
Speaker 1: I like Billy and Dave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Billy, Dave.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Dave.
Speaker 2: Jeff is like an underdog two though.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I like je Jeff gives reminds me of Layton.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah last season. Yeah, just something about him.
Speaker 2: I thought that originally is very similar. Yeah, nice guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Es. I still don't buy their relationship though. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably one of the strongest couples. To be honest,
Speaker 2: they're like, really.
Speaker 1: I see that. I see them being a strong couple. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just very I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 1: I feel about the cast this year. It's really hard
Speaker 1: to connect with the and feel like I think because
Speaker 1: it's been so chaotic and then just seeing all the
Speaker 1: rogue stuff, it's been really hard to like connect to
Speaker 1: the storylines. And I think I get disappointed because it
Speaker 1: ruins it for the viewers when things get leaked. And
Speaker 1: I love a little bit of a spoiler, but I
Speaker 1: think when it's just like too much, it can ruin things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3: Just the feedback that I got overall from people that
Speaker 3: have said that they're watching it's really hard to connect
Speaker 3: even with their backstories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're just finding.
Speaker 3: You know, and you have to they have to cast
Speaker 3: their net very wide, sure when they're casting for brides
Speaker 3: and grooms, but I feel like some of the stories
Speaker 3: are really out there and just like, yeah, it's so
Speaker 3: hard to relate, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be like me looking at it, it
Speaker 2: looks like it's all for show. There's not. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not authentic anymore.
Speaker 1: It's hard, like it's you want to feel that when
Speaker 1: you watch it. And I know, obviously the purpose of
Speaker 1: the show is to find love, and I feel like
Speaker 1: it's more skewed towards the drama now, which I also
Speaker 1: get because that's why we love watching it, and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's why we love watching reality TV in
Speaker 1: general exactly. But it's it's hard to see what the
Speaker 1: and this is the same thing we see every year,
Speaker 1: like what the intentions are of the brides and grooms
Speaker 1: and what they're going to the show for people chasing
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And I think we were having this
Speaker 1: conversation how there's a lot of them this year that
Speaker 1: are actors and actresses, which I find quite interesting because
Speaker 1: I think Reality TV already gets a bad rap of
Speaker 1: it being scripted, of it being acting, and then we
Speaker 1: literally have like majority of the cast the actors shows
Speaker 1: correct or have dated before. Yes, you know that's what's
Speaker 1: like alarming. Diceee, what is your thoughts on this cast
Speaker 1: and is there anyone that you think is in there
Speaker 1: for I'm not gonna say the wrong reasons because I
Speaker 1: feel like that is an annoying thing when people say
Speaker 1: that but for clout and it's not for the overarching
Speaker 1: love reason.
Speaker 2: I think every single cast member this year is on
Speaker 2: the show for clout.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, some people say they want love, but from
Speaker 2: my experience with them doing what I do, I think
Speaker 2: they're all part of them is loving the cloud they're
Speaker 2: getting right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a fair statement considering we're seeing
Speaker 1: all this like the cast trying to get on top
Speaker 1: of the narrative and get on top of everything before
Speaker 1: it's played out. And I think it kind of it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: just like, let's just see it out and then you
Speaker 1: will have a chance to defend yourself eventually, but let's
Speaker 1: just see what happens, how it plays out. You know
Speaker 1: what I find interesting though, and how I can pick
Speaker 1: it is like the ones that are really going all
Speaker 1: out with their reels, their TikTok. So, we weren't doing
Speaker 1: any of that on our season. It was allowed. Do
Speaker 1: you want to to have your phone? I know.
Speaker 3: So it's just interesting they're all doing fit checks. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: thank you for collaborating with me already.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what that annoys me is the collaboration,
Speaker 1: like the hair and makeup, the dresses, because if you
Speaker 1: were on your own, yeah, we had for our own
Speaker 1: hair and makeup.
Speaker 3: You know, we weren't gifted our fears. Well, we weren't
Speaker 3: on our season.
Speaker 1: And I just find it finding that when you look
Speaker 1: at all the brides and grooms, even the guys are
Speaker 1: doing fit checks.
Speaker 2: Dave.
Speaker 1: Dave posted up a fit check the other night and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, dude, like I get it, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's giving. You want to be an influencer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think they've seen how you like. Everyone
Speaker 2: wants that TikTok cloud. Everyone knows you can get a
Speaker 2: lot of followers doing that. Like, yes, your seasons both sucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: You were so scared of it, like you were too
Speaker 2: scared to eat film content, like your seasoned sort of
Speaker 2: saying film it all.
Speaker 3: Like say just quickly, like it's not even that we
Speaker 3: weren't allowed to, Like we were so focused on ourselves
Speaker 3: and the I guess the drama we were going going
Speaker 3: through through. Yeah, between us and like my person with Cody,
Speaker 3: there was no way you could get Cody and I
Speaker 3: to do a fit check.
Speaker 1: Sorry, there's no way. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Could you imagine? I know?
Speaker 2: But if you're doing that now, I feel like, sure,
Speaker 2: you know what you're going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What's that going to say? It's the next year's cast,
Speaker 2: Like everyone's going to be doing that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a different formula now. But even like
Speaker 1: if you notice the places they're getting dressed froms and
Speaker 1: the type of people they're working with, it's people that
Speaker 1: we work with. So they've obviously researched previous seasons and
Speaker 1: they've gone and reached out, which is like respect, but
Speaker 1: it's just how it is, like they've gone and seen
Speaker 1: what we've done, and you're obviously it's like you walked
Speaker 1: so I could run, so they could sprint, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: And like people going rogue in the past, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: the same thing. You can't stop it now. I think
Speaker 2: like Channel nine has created this months so that they
Speaker 2: can't control.
Speaker 1: What do you think Channel nine could do to prevent
Speaker 1: the chaos that it is now or the just to
Speaker 1: kind of preserve the storyline and the actual show. What
Speaker 1: do you think they could do to fix that? Because
Speaker 1: it just seems like it's out of control.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's too late for this season, but for next year.
Speaker 2: What Wanner Brothers do for The Bachelor is actually they've
Speaker 2: got this clause which they it's like a five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars bonus that they offer the cart on the like,
Speaker 2: but they can't go rogue. So that means no paparazzi photos,
Speaker 2: no doing any interviews, even like talking to any media.
Speaker 2: It's as insiders, none of that.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a genius.
Speaker 2: You follow every single one of these rules. It literally
Speaker 2: says no paparazzi, no, none of that, and you get
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars at the end. And I actually think
Speaker 2: that some of the cast would follow.
Speaker 1: The rules five k and don't they withhold your blue
Speaker 1: tick as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get no blue tick, but now you
Speaker 2: can just pay for it. But it's not the same
Speaker 2: as it.
Speaker 1: It's not the same.
Speaker 2: So back in the day for Bachelor Days, that blue
Speaker 2: tick was everything for sure, So that might be the
Speaker 2: reason they even went on the show, so that blue
Speaker 2: tick meant everything, so they would follow the rules. But
Speaker 2: then some people would be like, I can get more
Speaker 2: clout by going rogue and making more money.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think that's possible either. I mean, you know that
Speaker 1: there's the whole thing of like staging pap shots and
Speaker 1: like being paid for it. Have you because we've never
Speaker 1: been paid for any photos that we've done, and we
Speaker 1: were having a chat about it before. With anything pap related,
Speaker 1: there's only been like two times that I've been sprung
Speaker 1: and I didn't know that they were there every other time,
Speaker 1: like you've known or there's been an event or like
Speaker 1: my partner had told you that it was like set
Speaker 1: up right. Yeah, what has been your experience with the
Speaker 1: more side of things that people try and make money
Speaker 1: off of. People come to be like pay me for
Speaker 1: X y Z what's that been like.
Speaker 2: Well, to be honest, I've changed my approach this year. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not paying you guys as sent for paparazzi photos.
Speaker 2: I'm giving you free publicity, good publicity. It's either you
Speaker 2: take it or that you don't. We're not paying like
Speaker 2: you'd a bloody walk out of a restaurant.
Speaker 1: So who has been paid the most for paparazzi shots?
Speaker 2: I think back in the day that like reality stars
Speaker 2: could bank a lot of money, like people getting paid
Speaker 2: tens of thousands of dollars, like your Martha days, Jessica Power,
Speaker 2: all that bunch. We're getting a lot of money. But
Speaker 2: these days, like unless you're going to cause scandal and drama,
Speaker 2: which like like he can't be bothered with, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not worth it, like because you're just going to tarnish
Speaker 2: your name by doing that. Yeah, Like I think domb
Speaker 2: Ella season was probably the last where they like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they did make a lot of money by staging photos
Speaker 2: like el I had a fun time at the beach
Speaker 2: with brent On Valentine.
Speaker 1: I remember those. Oh my god, how did I forget
Speaker 1: about that? That was taking It wasn't me.
Speaker 2: They that would like one of the pap agencies and stuff, and.
Speaker 1: They don't even know there's pap agencies.
Speaker 2: Like these days people have ours like they've already tried
Speaker 2: to cash in, like partners trying to cash in all
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: I just feel like do people really care? Like do
Speaker 1: people care what we're doing like that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're just more like I guess the dollar amount
Speaker 1: for the person different. How much are we're talking.
Speaker 2: Here for Well, they used to get a lot now
Speaker 2: it's probably not worth as much, to be honest, like.
Speaker 1: How much Ela and Dom I mean, Ella and Brent
Speaker 1: would have got that.
Speaker 2: A couple of grand I think. But the thing is
Speaker 2: you're like licensing, Yeah, okay, cool, but like you could
Speaker 2: make money, it'd be a couple of hundred, like a
Speaker 2: few brand all up. But is it really worth it?
Speaker 1: It just seems like a bit cringe. Like I remember
Speaker 1: any time would happened when you take photos, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I hate this so much.
Speaker 2: And you can but a stage pap set from a
Speaker 2: mal awage like yeah, don't.
Speaker 3: Just know, ye convenient The hair and makeup's a like
Speaker 3: perfect and you're just strolling out with their dog conveniently,
Speaker 3: Like it's so set up.
Speaker 1: The other ones that you know, like a bit.
Speaker 2: I just think even the stage pap photos aren't what
Speaker 2: they used to be anymore. So I'm like, I don't know, I.
Speaker 1: Know, like the ones of Jackie last week at the beach.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's okay, she did definitely photos. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: got their heads up. Okay, what was I doing that day?
Speaker 2: I actually needed to be somewhere and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go. I gotta go. And then it was where
Speaker 2: we go one of the beaches, Yeah, and went took
Speaker 2: the photos and left like thank you.
Speaker 1: Funny.
Speaker 3: So people just say, hey, lady, to be here. I'm
Speaker 3: going to be here, and you just rock up.
Speaker 2: Well, pretty much the whole season was like that. This year,
Speaker 2: it was like I just was so tired. I was
Speaker 2: just like, let me know when you're all going to
Speaker 2: go out and how come like, because I'm there waiting
Speaker 2: every day all week. I'm like, but we all know
Speaker 2: the weekends at the time where everyone gets time off
Speaker 2: and they all go rogue. So I'm just like waiting
Speaker 2: for that moment. I'm just like, let me know where
Speaker 2: you're gonna go, and I'll be there. And there was
Speaker 2: times where I would go out with the maps cast,
Speaker 2: like this season, and we'd run into producers. They'd be like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? What are you doing? I'm reporting
Speaker 2: you to the higher ups. And then one time then
Speaker 2: they didn't care. They'd be like, oh, I like Ali,
Speaker 2: I'm friends with him, like and it just they just
Speaker 2: this year's season just did not care, which is shows
Speaker 2: how rugue they are. That's why I'm like, if there's
Speaker 2: that rogue during filming, it just says something about the
Speaker 2: cast and the intentions.
Speaker 1: I think that they go into it weird. Definitely, who
Speaker 1: is the main ringleader of these parties?
Speaker 2: He won't care that I'm throwing him under the bus.
Speaker 2: But it was Billy at the start. Billy Billy and
Speaker 2: very close with the Veena, so she was just be
Speaker 2: like f yr. She didn't care about being pa. She'd
Speaker 2: be like, come hang out with us, yes, which was
Speaker 2: really cute, like like Ali, actually, don't bring a camerag
Speaker 2: just coming out, And I think that was what was different.
Speaker 2: Also with this cast. It wasn't so much come TAKEO,
Speaker 2: just come have bees with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but then Billy leaves, So Billy actually leaves
Speaker 2: like spoiler alert, stop, Well.
Speaker 1: We can assume like this cheating whatever, maybe that causes
Speaker 1: the riff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and does so.
Speaker 1: Then when he Billy's on the market, babe waiting for you.
Speaker 2: But when that happens, the whole dynamic change. So then
Speaker 2: I felt like, who is going to call me now? Okay?
Speaker 2: And then like a week or so it took because
Speaker 2: the whole group dynamic of the show this year is
Speaker 2: going to change. Okay, back, the friendships are going to
Speaker 2: change when Billy leaves and you're going to see new friendships.
Speaker 1: So do you think now with Intruder's week being this week,
Speaker 1: that is then causing chaos because we've seen Elliott is
Speaker 1: coming back, which horrific, and Lauren is coming.
Speaker 3: Back, who were originally matched together. Yes, and now it
Speaker 3: appears that coming back and getting rematched with which I.
Speaker 1: Think is bullshit. That's so not fair, not fair, Like
Speaker 1: none of us got to if anyone, like we will
Speaker 1: like bring back Katie. Yeah, like, okay, I understand it
Speaker 1: would have been unfair to bring back Elliott and then
Speaker 1: not Lauren or Vice versa. Get that, but also I
Speaker 1: also get the fact that they were great characters, like
Speaker 1: it was good TV. I hate to fight. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair.
Speaker 2: It's not fair. But imagine they brought Katie back and
Speaker 2: then they stitch her up again, Like, how can they
Speaker 2: guarantee to Katie that they've found somebody that isn't going
Speaker 2: to bloody make it feel like crap? Yeah, they can't.
Speaker 2: They can't guarantee that.
Speaker 3: Well, I heard that the new bride that Elliott is
Speaker 3: going to be matched with is lovely, but apparently the
Speaker 3: moment that they stopped filming and the crew leave, he
Speaker 3: like completely ignores this poor girl. And then when they
Speaker 3: come back in, he's all nice again, and she's obviously
Speaker 3: foul because she's like, you've just ignored me for four hours.
Speaker 1: It's fake.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you heard that, but sure, okay,
Speaker 2: they were just like.
Speaker 1: Well I read an article that I don't know if
Speaker 1: you wrote it, but saying she's like this awful bride
Speaker 1: and like trauma.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 1: Did you write that?
Speaker 2: Actually?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, because she's.
Speaker 1: An actress as well.
Speaker 2: Remember, Elliott had his long list of non negotiable craps yea,
Speaker 2: so producers decided to stitch him up and give him
Speaker 2: that list. And is she going to be the perfect person?
Speaker 1: Probably not because he's the issue.
Speaker 2: But you know what, Elliott's going to come back and
Speaker 2: get a redemption. Maybe this time she's going to be
Speaker 2: the problem. I'm saying she is. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: that's just my understanding of it. Okay, we haven't heard
Speaker 2: her side yet. Yeah, we're keen to see, like what
Speaker 2: that's my thing this year. Also, I'm gonna always listen
Speaker 2: to both. I'm never just going to listen to the
Speaker 2: first person that comes to me to complain about that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely I had I've done that in the past and
Speaker 2: then it's never been wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then we've also seen Lauren is matched up
Speaker 1: with Clint. But I read a spoiler this morning that
Speaker 1: Clint is now with Jackie Jackie yea, what is going on?
Speaker 1: That's pissed me off. First of all, because we haven't
Speaker 1: even seen the wedding and now we know it's ruined.
Speaker 1: Can you do you have any inside goss on that?
Speaker 2: Can? I say it pissed me off to be honest,
Speaker 2: because obviously there I'm on set, so I'm getting all
Speaker 2: these photos of Clint with Lauren going out doing all
Speaker 2: these thin, cool things together. Now all my photos blake up.
Speaker 2: It's like they don't make sense. So and now I
Speaker 2: know how frustrated the producers would because they've got all
Speaker 2: this great story yeah and bluddy Clint and Lauren, and
Speaker 2: they're going to keep people on the edge of their seat.
Speaker 2: They're going to be great together. And now this relationships
Speaker 2: come out with people putting it out there like I'm
Speaker 2: part of the problem.
Speaker 1: This play out on screen, we see this relationship, Yes
Speaker 1: we will.
Speaker 2: So they actually started talking just before final vows, texting okay,
Speaker 2: and then they don't actually walk into the reunion together,
Speaker 2: but their relationship is exposed at the reunion. Wow, from
Speaker 2: what I've told, Like obviously I was not inside, but
Speaker 2: this is just.
Speaker 1: The swapping of the partners is crazy.
Speaker 2: Like this is my thing. Everybody wants that Duncan and
Speaker 2: Evelyn finished, and they think they're going to get that.
Speaker 3: But Cam and Jewels, hey, yeah, probably.
Speaker 2: Better, but like no, but like I mean, the partner swap,
Speaker 2: so everyone thinks everyone and Duncan done so well. Right,
Speaker 2: let's look at the facts. Maths have never made a
Speaker 2: partner swap ever, look good.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's a very interesting dynamic that I feel like,
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's a healthier way to
Speaker 1: look at it, like, oh, if my actual couple doesn't
Speaker 1: work out, there might be someone else there and I
Speaker 1: almost be able to be the next Duncan anevolent yeah,
Speaker 1: which is yeah, I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 2: Or they might be the next John and Ellie and
Speaker 2: get slammed by everybody, the next Carolina and Daniel, like
Speaker 2: that didn't end well for them? Yeah who else? Yeah,
Speaker 2: never never ends well?
Speaker 1: No ever. I think it's disappointing because it happened so
Speaker 1: early on and we didn't even get to see their wedding.
Speaker 1: So it's also taking the moment away from Lauren, which
Speaker 1: I like. Now it's like she's been messed around two
Speaker 1: times now and then she gets this potential redemption for
Speaker 1: it to be taken away from her by Jackie, Like
Speaker 1: like do you need to be posting that on socials, babe,
Speaker 1: Like it's really not. It's collaborating with the Maths Gossips page,
Speaker 1: like it's Maths unsensored mass gossip. But like what yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So on that it was like Jackie who sort of
Speaker 2: tease that she has a new relationship, so if she's
Speaker 2: not going out rogue none of this. I think we
Speaker 2: could have held the story for sure another two three weeks.
Speaker 2: It was always going to come out, but her going
Speaker 2: so rogue sort of accelerate. He accelerated it, and it's
Speaker 2: like it does suck because Clint's also coming on. He
Speaker 2: was like in the backseat. He's not driving the car.
Speaker 1: He hasn't even had yet.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like you just can't control it anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know he's.
Speaker 3: Gonna apply for something like mass Regardless of what happens
Speaker 3: in the end, you have a responsibility to like just
Speaker 3: keep the magic of the show, Like why spoil it
Speaker 3: for everyone?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? It's not like it
Speaker 1: airs for a whole year, and the turnaround is not
Speaker 1: that unreasonable. You actually finished filming in November December. It
Speaker 1: airs in January, exact. It's not that long to just
Speaker 1: like keep it together. You know.
Speaker 2: It's a different breed though, Like this, it's like I
Speaker 2: don't like my edit, and they're there on Instagram like.
Speaker 1: We barely see the edit, babes, like let's watch it first.
Speaker 2: But literally they're live streaming complaining about how unhappy they are.
Speaker 2: It's like, give us a chance to but do you
Speaker 2: know what I think? Is actually worse. I think people
Speaker 2: coming out and being so salty and bitter about the
Speaker 2: edit is actually making people not like them more. It's
Speaker 2: actually not doing the many favors.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that they are so wild this year? Like,
Speaker 1: why do you think they're going.
Speaker 2: So rogue being the cloud chasers that they are. I
Speaker 2: just feel like I think everyone's had enough with the trolling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then if they don't have all these random accounts,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be seeing the comments.
Speaker 1: It's exactly And I also, if I want to take
Speaker 1: a step back and looking at this realistically, if they
Speaker 1: were smart, let's put the cloud chasing hat on. If
Speaker 1: they are smart about this, they would wait for this
Speaker 1: to play out. They've got four months of their three
Speaker 1: four months of airtime depending on how long you're on
Speaker 1: the show for. Then hit them after wait for your
Speaker 1: moments so you have all this airtime you're building the
Speaker 1: following whatever, and then you can come out in the
Speaker 1: right appropriate setting with your story to tell or sell
Speaker 1: the story. I don't know, like they're just not being
Speaker 1: smart about it. Even if the clout was a number
Speaker 1: one priority, they've they've shot themselves in the foot because
Speaker 1: now no one cares, babe, like I don't actually care anymore.
Speaker 1: Like you've said it on a million different podcasts. You've
Speaker 1: set it on your stories, like who do you think
Speaker 1: is gonna listen anymore? And you're just like banging on
Speaker 1: about it, banging on about it. It's not and that's
Speaker 1: banging on the most Morena, what's your thoughts on her?
Speaker 2: I heard about Morena's dilemma back in October. Okay, so
Speaker 2: what do you hear all of it?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: I do think there's a lot we haven't seen with Morena, okay.
Speaker 1: Which I think is fair. Like were editing, I can see.
Speaker 2: That whether Tony came out and said he was a
Speaker 2: married man or yes he's married, he hasn't finalized his paperwork.
Speaker 1: But that's common. We had. We had people on our
Speaker 1: season that that's not like, I don't think that that's
Speaker 1: the end of the world.
Speaker 3: No, but apparently he's still in love with her and
Speaker 3: that was her problem. He kept making comments like bring
Speaker 3: my ex wife or sorry wife back.
Speaker 2: I've heard that story. A few cast members have come
Speaker 2: out and said that happened, but I've also been told
Speaker 2: from very good sources that that didn't happen. Okay, and
Speaker 2: if that did happen, it would have made great TV
Speaker 2: and they would have used it like they Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I've said, like we just don't know, like what's.
Speaker 1: His what's his wife's name by the way, because you
Speaker 1: know how he called her by a different name. Is
Speaker 1: Marianna or something?
Speaker 2: Morena made it very clear, like at the start I
Speaker 2: was saying it wrong, I'm probably not saying it more yeah,
Speaker 2: exactly how she likes it right now. But she made
Speaker 2: it very clear. So anyone, anytime somebody said a name,
Speaker 2: she was correct.
Speaker 1: It's fair enough. It's that's fair get Yeah. But when
Speaker 1: people call me Selean, I'm like, no, that's a whole
Speaker 1: different name. That's not even a short cut of mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No.
Speaker 2: But like I understand why she's frustrated. She feels set up,
Speaker 2: she feels like she wasted a time. I mean I
Speaker 2: was there trying to telling her to stay on, so
Speaker 2: I wasn't helping the situation. Yeah, And she's come out
Speaker 2: and said that I was probably one of her only
Speaker 2: friends or support systems she had during the show, which
Speaker 2: is kind of sad to hear.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're coming to a new city that
Speaker 1: you are not from you don't have any friends, like
Speaker 1: I believe, like he's from like Wollongong with something, so
Speaker 1: he can just easily go home on the weekends. I
Speaker 1: felt lucky because I could go home, I could see
Speaker 1: my friends, but like my partner was from the other
Speaker 1: side of the country, so it was different when you
Speaker 1: didn't have people to lean on. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: it makes the experience a lot harder. So I think
Speaker 1: that's like fair. Yeah, and I can understand why she'd
Speaker 1: be upset when he's going and doing that stuff and
Speaker 1: she's stuck in a hotel room essentially with no one,
Speaker 1: and you're not meant to hang out with the rest
Speaker 1: of the cast anyway, so you're literally alone. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what happened with Marna. Like week two,
Speaker 2: she was like on the weekend, she was saying that
Speaker 2: she's never been a bondeau before. She said, she's never
Speaker 2: been in this before. So I said, do you want
Speaker 2: to go to Bondaire?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then I drove her. She was the first person
Speaker 2: to get into my card.
Speaker 1: And then Alie's car is a whole thing number plate
Speaker 1: is we because he loves Harry Potter as we do too,
Speaker 1: as we do too.
Speaker 2: But then, yeah, she was the first person to get
Speaker 2: in my car. Took her out because Tony would go
Speaker 2: home on the weekend Subollongong and he would never invite her.
Speaker 2: And then like he just said he wanted a break
Speaker 2: from her, which I understand. Yeah, but like she was
Speaker 2: very hurt by it because he ended up taking the
Speaker 2: rest of the cast there. Yeah, never his bride. So
Speaker 2: oh that's yeah, Like so she felt isolated, isolated and alone,
Speaker 2: which was kind of sad. So I did have a
Speaker 2: tough spot for her. Yeah, of course, yes, she gave
Speaker 2: me a headache, but I did feel sorry for her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I get why she was upset.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and knowing what you know, do you believe in
Speaker 1: the villain edit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, But I think everyone deserves the
Speaker 2: edit they get like really, Yeah, I think I do,
Speaker 2: because if you don't like, if you treat producers really nicely,
Speaker 2: you treat all the like crow really nicely, you treat everybody,
Speaker 2: They're not gonna make you look like a bad person.
Speaker 1: I think my view on this whole bad edit villain
Speaker 1: edit is that I believe that it's what's not shown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is shown because I think that's where if one
Speaker 1: side of something shown, someone can look extremely worse than
Speaker 1: what we had experienced it to be. And that's what
Speaker 1: it can be because other person might have been just
Speaker 1: as bad but it wasn't shown.
Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, that's what literally Miranda's argument,
Speaker 2: it's not she doesn't care how she was betrayed. She
Speaker 2: wants the other side of the truth shown. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: when I spoke to Jake and he went rogue, it
Speaker 2: was like, why didn't they show that? I wasn't interested
Speaker 2: in Ashley from the start, Like it wasn't. He just
Speaker 2: was more upset that. They'm like, well, you actually got
Speaker 2: a really good at it, like why are you complaining?
Speaker 2: And same as Marina, I'm like, wellhy are you complaining?
Speaker 1: Ed?
Speaker 2: It's actually really nice and then she's like, well they
Speaker 2: haven't joined this, this this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have this like sense of no control,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what you have to really give away.
Speaker 1: I think that's what you have to really give away
Speaker 1: going into this experience, because you have it's not in
Speaker 1: your hands exactly. I think that's what they're trying to
Speaker 1: take back. They're trying to like play out the narrative
Speaker 1: by going on these rogue whatever and it just doesn't
Speaker 1: really come out maybe in the way that they're hoping.
Speaker 1: What do you think do you.
Speaker 2: Think people going rogue influences the public because.
Speaker 1: I actually, well I from my season when I the
Speaker 1: big thing we saw was Dan going rogue, and it
Speaker 1: ruined the whole storyline for Sandy and it really took
Speaker 1: away Sandy's experience, which I felt like was a story
Speaker 1: that needed to be told. He was like edited out
Speaker 1: of the rest of the season was he not so
Speaker 1: edit him out completely? And he literally ruined that on
Speaker 1: the wedding literally it's just similar to what Jackie and
Speaker 1: Clint are doing on the wed before. It was literally
Speaker 1: the day of the wedding airing, he had the pap
Speaker 1: shots with that other chick and you took those shots
Speaker 1: and it ruined it and then it made him look bad,
Speaker 1: whereas I think his edit wasn't It wasn't bad until
Speaker 1: it was really bad. He looked great and then he
Speaker 1: looked terrible. But I think that was also part of
Speaker 1: him doing all that messy stuff. In the media. They
Speaker 1: can go back and re edit that, and they did
Speaker 1: because they got he got edited out and I feel
Speaker 1: like they don't think that that can happen. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I think there's a debate whether it happens or not,
Speaker 2: like we'll never know the answer, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just look at where is he now? Where
Speaker 1: is Dan? Do you really work for your babe? That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. Can't other people see that and be like,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that because I'll end up like this.
Speaker 2: I encourage people not to go rogue because I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're not going to do yourself any favors. Yeah, like, yes,
Speaker 2: I love the chaos.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's.
Speaker 2: I actually feel like I want the best for them.
Speaker 2: I want them to make the most of this once
Speaker 2: in a lifetime experience. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it cuts it
Speaker 2: very short.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who I never see you write stories about.
Speaker 2: I'm scared, Yes, the experts about them all the time.
Speaker 2: I really like the experts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're always positive, Like what's their actual Yeah?
Speaker 2: Probably too scared after.
Speaker 1: Them the Golden I.
Speaker 2: Love trolling Bloody John when he falls asleep on the couch.
Speaker 3: So for the listeners, the commitment ceremonies are really long. Okay,
Speaker 3: we get like an hour each per couple and when
Speaker 3: there's like.
Speaker 1: A twelve past twelve hours.
Speaker 3: Guys literally and then there's like little takes in between
Speaker 3: what we have to go film, like you know, our
Speaker 3: opinions on things. So it's it's a long night last
Speaker 3: you are so hungover from the dinner party the night before,
Speaker 3: Hell and John, Alessandra and Melissa have to sit there
Speaker 3: and watch the whole dinner party, so they're just as
Speaker 3: tired as us, and John takes naps in between.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought it was, Oh that's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I wish we called, but we'll get yelled at.
Speaker 1: We do get nudged. But I would when we'd be
Speaker 1: in the tents, which for the people that don't know,
Speaker 1: when you go into the filming location, you are put
Speaker 1: in these like zebra tens, separated in your couple or
Speaker 1: individual if you have beef with your couple at the time.
Speaker 1: I would literally sleep on the floor and have an
Speaker 1: app yeah, in the little on the dirt like on
Speaker 1: the dirty growth floor, because I'm so tired.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's funny like
Speaker 2: this year from your season, dinner parties and ccs and
Speaker 2: way early now, so like going into those dinner parties.
Speaker 2: They were done by like ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you know what, I know, they've cut
Speaker 1: out the libs, so like, did you guys guys speak
Speaker 1: to Yeah, so before on like My season and Tiny season,
Speaker 1: we used to have this segment where.
Speaker 3: We're like, I don't know, stay you're doing. You're doing
Speaker 3: your dramatic like stay, and then they have a shot
Speaker 3: where you're like looking at the bowercony go I wonder
Speaker 3: if I should stay with my partner or you know,
Speaker 3: this is such a big decision for me. And then
Speaker 3: they'll have other times when when you're you're allowed to
Speaker 3: pick another bride and say like I'm a lot to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely, they've cut that out.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was what was taking really low long and
Speaker 3: dragged out.
Speaker 1: The commitment ceremonies and the dinner parties because that's what
Speaker 1: we used to have to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a completely mind blowed. I did forget that they
Speaker 2: cut that out completely.
Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the dinner party is finished early, like I
Speaker 2: guess they Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because we used to film until like the sun comes
Speaker 1: up again.
Speaker 2: It was like ten thirty. Sometimes I'd actually like miss it,
Speaker 2: but I had I have the cast calling me saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: Billy actually had his Apple Watch at one of the
Speaker 2: dinner parties and was giving me updates.
Speaker 1: Are you kiddy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't care that I'm adding him. He'd love it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very naughty. So now I think they've banned apple products
Speaker 2: from the dinner party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they also look, take your Apple watch off, horrific.
Speaker 1: Take it off, not in the pickies, take it off. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a bit sad watching Sierra and Billy at the
Speaker 1: moment because I really like Billy. I just I didn't
Speaker 1: know this party side of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's a fun boy. It's also
Speaker 2: a really good egg. Like, yeah, he's very cheeky, but
Speaker 2: he's actually a really nice guy. Like it says something
Speaker 2: about him if he's very close to his mom. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's got that relationship. So yeah, it was like they.
Speaker 1: Were so good and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: was really bad.
Speaker 2: I saw them hanging out maybe two or three times.
Speaker 1: Do you think that she just never liked him.
Speaker 2: I just don't think they were like compatible or they
Speaker 2: were attracted to each other. I think Sierra was attracted
Speaker 2: to him, but like, there was a lot we didn't
Speaker 2: see so at their honeymoon, they were like fighting and
Speaker 2: what She's come out and said he was a gas
Speaker 2: lighter and he was always he was hugging the cameras
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. And then like there was a
Speaker 2: huge blow up at their honeymoon that we didn't see.
Speaker 2: So it's just like.
Speaker 1: That makes more sense because I feel like now at
Speaker 1: this point of the experiment, she's got the ick. I
Speaker 1: can see she's so.
Speaker 2: Offer Yeah, and that's why I think she was so
Speaker 2: happy to open up to Adrian because just Billy wasn't
Speaker 2: giving her the time of the day, wasn't rooting her
Speaker 2: none of it.
Speaker 1: So does that does that become a story ark? Because
Speaker 1: the way we saw the play out with Sierra and
Speaker 1: Adrian was like the little like foot sea and then
Speaker 1: obviously the commitment ceremony, does anything else further happen?
Speaker 2: So we're gonna there's a whole lot of the cheating
Speaker 2: side that's going to pay out over the next week
Speaker 2: from what I've been told, and then TikTok, they've got
Speaker 2: a lot of time left.
Speaker 1: Interesting wouldn't be Maths without a cheating scandal.
Speaker 2: No, right from my experience, they never like cooked up
Speaker 2: or any of that like we'll never know the truth
Speaker 2: because they were just hanging out behind closed doors. They
Speaker 2: could be lying to their partners. We won't know. We'll
Speaker 2: never know. So there's not actually like a cheating scandal
Speaker 2: that plays out on TV between Adrian and Sierra, like
Speaker 2: they didn't kiss like Carolina and Daniel Town. Okay, there
Speaker 2: won't be that on the season that I know of,
Speaker 2: But Jack and Clint got to know each other off
Speaker 2: camera right then they come back.
Speaker 1: And is there any inside goss on stuff that you
Speaker 1: know of that we aren't going to see on the
Speaker 1: season that's going to be like cutting room floor.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of that, to be honest. There
Speaker 2: was an incident in a taxi which I reported on
Speaker 2: yesterday and it was too rude we had to put
Speaker 2: it behind a paywall. But it did involve one bride
Speaker 2: showing another groom a naughty video of herself.
Speaker 1: And just the bride and groom with different bride and
Speaker 1: different groom.
Speaker 2: Also it was one bride showing another guy a video
Speaker 2: of herself a video of herself like fat that, what's that?
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make the sound of it because I
Speaker 1: don't know how to.
Speaker 2: Gross it wasn't it was. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: can get into too much detail for legal reasons, but
Speaker 2: sold just say it and you can just be out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: she was getting so you can keep all of that out.
Speaker 2: But that's what it was. And she's showing another groom
Speaker 2: this that's not her Why why by another groom? And
Speaker 2: it went back to the dinner party and none of
Speaker 2: this can be shown.
Speaker 1: So there's two so and why is she in a
Speaker 1: cab with not her husband and.
Speaker 2: With two husbands all hanging out? Okay? So it was
Speaker 2: like a broad I actually didn't. I did an interview
Speaker 2: with her groom. Well the other guy involved, okay, and
Speaker 2: he's come out and accidentally revealed they hung out multiple times,
Speaker 2: so you can put the rest of the pieces of
Speaker 2: the puzzle together.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, do be fair, that's fair. That's getting edited out.
Speaker 1: There's no way you could show that for legal reasons.
Speaker 1: And also that's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you why why.
Speaker 1: Would you show that? But also here's my thing, and
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a side side chat. But you're
Speaker 1: going and putting yourself in the public figure space. You
Speaker 1: cannot have stuff like this exist. Ye, I can handle
Speaker 1: hearts say, I have nothing like that. I didn't have
Speaker 1: new Like, you cannot have things like this because it's
Speaker 1: gonna get leaked.
Speaker 2: So I spoke to the bride involved and I said,
Speaker 2: what's the go with it? Like is there a video?
Speaker 2: Can I have the video? And then she just played
Speaker 2: it down. She's like, oh, it was nothing like she
Speaker 2: didn't think anything of it. So that's why in her
Speaker 2: head it wasn't a bad thing. It was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: you can barely see do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like she very much played it down.
Speaker 1: I don't think that is the issue.
Speaker 2: Well, she's just in her head it's not that bad.
Speaker 1: So you have this video?
Speaker 2: She well, I said, do you have it, I'll give
Speaker 2: you money for it, because I didn't know what the
Speaker 2: video was like Originally it was a sex tape and
Speaker 2: everyone's like, no, there's no sex tape. Then it was
Speaker 2: like a porner. I'm like, no, there's no porno. It
Speaker 2: was I'm like, okay, what is what's the video? Because
Speaker 2: she confirmed that she did do it right okay, and
Speaker 2: then everyone thought it was going to play it on
Speaker 2: TV and we just found out like the other day
Speaker 2: that it wasn't.
Speaker 1: That's I think that's fair. Yeah, so you've seen this video.
Speaker 2: I haven't, but I've heard exactly what. I've spoken to
Speaker 2: the bride about it, and I've spoken to all the
Speaker 2: people involved. Clinia has been who felt the tray by
Speaker 2: that she was showing other guys the video.
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's just messy.
Speaker 2: So that's just one story that they haven't Obviously, there's
Speaker 2: the whole Marena Tony stuff just completely scrapped out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm just trying to think there's a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff with the Fena and Adrian we didn't see interesting,
Speaker 2: like Jack, and there's just heaps with Jack and Ryan
Speaker 2: that we're not seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay from both sides.
Speaker 2: Both sides.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're quiet. They're a chaotic pair to watch.
Speaker 1: It's really like exhausting and I'm just like you just
Speaker 1: don't you get whiplash?
Speaker 2: I know, but like he can't. I can't keep up
Speaker 2: with it. That's why I'm just like, it's heap.
Speaker 1: I'mkaying to hear both sides though and see what's up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Ryan hasn't said anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Ryan's been very careful at the moment.
Speaker 2: He's obviously not happy.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he doesn't look great.
Speaker 2: But it's just like Jackie doesn't look great. They both
Speaker 2: don't look great, but I think that's what their relationship was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Athena and Adrian are going to go through a rough
Speaker 2: patch at the moment, so it's only going to get
Speaker 2: worse for him.
Speaker 1: I think she deserves better. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if Billy leaves, is it safe to say
Speaker 3: that Athena leaves or not?
Speaker 2: I think Adrian and Aena are going to surprise everybody.
Speaker 1: Ah, that's an interesting and this.
Speaker 2: Is something we haven't seen before ever in the history
Speaker 2: of maps.
Speaker 1: Is she going to go for his brother? Can you imagine?
Speaker 1: You know, they should bring the brother in and just
Speaker 1: like switch them around, not say anything.
Speaker 2: We joked about that. I was like, because AA's got
Speaker 2: her twins. Yeah, yeah, like let's just swapping around and
Speaker 2: then like clear you'd be able to recognize straight away.
Speaker 1: But awfully similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, only the tattoo tells him apart, Like when the
Speaker 2: Adrian got spotted with an other girl, he was pretending
Speaker 2: it was his brother.
Speaker 1: Yes, so it was was spotted with another girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and do we know who this girl is?
Speaker 2: Yes? And that wasn't the first with that girl because
Speaker 2: they spend years together, and.
Speaker 1: But he was pretending that, Oh no, that's my brother,
Speaker 1: so was he?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know, But like, isn't it weird because if
Speaker 2: go back to your seasons, if someone was spotted with
Speaker 2: another partner, they'd be like canceled and shut down for sure,
Speaker 2: but agents still doing interviews. Yeah, so it just I
Speaker 2: think the whole Maps game is changing.
Speaker 1: It is really changing. I don't really know how long,
Speaker 1: like how sustainable it can be when it's all these
Speaker 1: things are being broken. I think they do need to
Speaker 1: implement something like you suggested, like keeping it contained. Because
Speaker 1: we love we love the show. We love it. It'd
Speaker 1: be nice if there was just a little bit more tight,
Speaker 1: just so we could see things play it and then
Speaker 1: give us the goss.
Speaker 2: Me too, I'd be happy if we love the gloss,
Speaker 2: but just not st I would actually be happy if
Speaker 2: like none of them cast spoke to anybody like I would.
Speaker 2: I what I loved about both your seasons is I
Speaker 2: love being able to crack you guys, like I worked
Speaker 2: really hard to do it. Now this is like the
Speaker 2: new generation of Maps is like talking to me day one,
Speaker 2: telling me everything, Like I like that, I like the
Speaker 2: like the chase. I like the chase.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's just like fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like last year had Lauren talking to me like
Speaker 2: from the start, and then this year it's like all
Speaker 2: of them. I'm like okay, yeah, so when they all
Speaker 2: went rogue early on, it's like, Okay, this is going
Speaker 2: to be a fun season. I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 3: Well, I bumped into you recently at an event and
Speaker 3: you said, there's one person that is playing by the
Speaker 3: rules and you haven't cracked her yet. Yeah, Jamie, I
Speaker 3: can tell.
Speaker 2: I can tell, like she was the one person that
Speaker 2: didn't feel comfortable doing pap photos. She was just like,
Speaker 2: wouldn't even show up to a place if the rest
Speaker 2: of the cast were there. If she found out I
Speaker 2: was there.
Speaker 1: Apart from that one video of you guys doing tequila.
Speaker 2: Shops, you know, she was fine. She was like, that
Speaker 2: was the first time we had hung out and you'd
Speaker 2: realize I'm on the other side. So I was just like,
Speaker 2: I knew she wasn't comfortable with me being there, but
Speaker 2: I didn't want to push.
Speaker 1: It the boundary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like, you know what if I
Speaker 2: just stay away. We've spoken now, so we're good now.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Yeah, Jamie would be great to have on.
Speaker 2: I know, I think like it's very fair that Jamie
Speaker 2: wants to play the rules, Like, like I really respect
Speaker 2: that because she's done the right thing by production, she's
Speaker 2: doing the right thing by Channel nine, and.
Speaker 1: I think by the viewers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like everyone wants a friend like Jamie.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we love Jamie and we love you Alie
Speaker 1: so much for always supporting us, like you've been there
Speaker 1: from day one.
Speaker 2: Try it. Yeah no, but that's what I mean is
Speaker 2: I felt form like really good friendships with a lot
Speaker 2: of beep people do come and go, but like the
Speaker 2: real one stick around and that's what I love, Like
Speaker 2: I do or can make really good friends from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we love it.
Speaker 2: We love you, guys, love you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. We're so grateful, honestly,
Speaker 1: like so much tea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hopefully give it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully it's given everyone a little bit more insight,
Speaker 1: different perspective.
Speaker 2: Maybe the thing I want to finish it with is
Speaker 2: viewers have seen nothing yet, Like Maths is going to
Speaker 2: get so much more wild. Wow, it's going to get
Speaker 2: a bit dark. It's gonna like We're going to see
Speaker 2: everything this year.
Speaker 1: Really, so strap in well. On that note, thank you
Speaker 1: so much Arlie for coming on. We have a fresh
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